Is it okay? Uh, I have to make one adjustment on the computer, but Okay. It is up on YouTube. It's just it's not going to be on the website right now. Oh, okay. Start the meeting. You can. Okay. All right. Good evening, everyone. Welcome
to the regular meeting of the Tucker Burough Council on April the 21st, 2025. Madam Clerk, would you please read the Open Public Meetings Act statement? Yes. Provisions of the open public media act have been complied with this new was published in the beacon and the park
press dating and time being placed in this meeting. Thank you. Roll call please. Mr. Breland here. Mr. Martin here. Mr. Kangelo here. Mr. Here. Mr. Dupree here. Mr. Peterson here. Mayor Marshall here. Please stand for the flag.
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. All right. Um, our first order of
business is a presentation by Council Martin. Uh, thank you, Madame Mayor. Tonight, we will be uh doing the budget hearing and the adoption of the 20 25 uh municipal budget. And at this time, I would like to
uh make a motion to request that we open for the to the public for the budget hearing. Second. Okay. Okay, I have a motion and a second to open to uh the public for this hearing. All in favor? I opposed. You're all second.
Do we have any questions from the public on uh the 2025 proposed municipal budget? Mr. and address. Huh? Just give your name. Okay. Um, well, firstly, looking at the budget,
um, the the biggest thing I see is salaries. They keep going up. I wonder how long the broken sustain them. I noticed that the uh the school tax deferral look like it was about the same as before. We're not paying that down. And the way I understand the school deferral, since I was mayor, the bur
spent more 1.6 million than they've had to spend. So, it's a paperwork shuffle. We're kind of worried about that. And um I guess my first question is since we eliminated half the council meetings, is there the council and everybody involved in coming to council meetings gotten a
pay cut? Uh no. No. So still taking the same amount of money for less work. Okay. Um one thing I noticed about the court, the court looks like it's costing over $110,000 a year and taking in less than 40,000 a year. Is there any way
that can be fixed or merged with Little Light or somebody taking a big loss on that? Uh we have been taking a loss on courts really. We came up last year
um since CO. So we took a huge loss during CO. It has been coming back. Um as far as merging, I would say no. Uh, I know I'm a fan of having court here in town with us, but um, I
anticipate that we'll see our revenues from court continue to come up. They might not come up to that number this year, but they are coming back up. Well, I can tell you from my experience, there's revenue out there because probably better than half the time I go to traffic light in Tucker, I
have the green to go if somebody's coming in front of me, obviously running a red light and like it just happens almost every day. So I kind of wonder what the enforcement is. So um what's the plan on there for the what's what's the pro procurement of
land for 1.125 million? Uh the land right next door the go what we call the Gomez property. Okay. So hasn't been paid for yet. So it has not been paid for as of yet.
Okay. And that's going to be 1.125 million for that parcel. Uh, I don't know the exact number, but yes, I thought it was 1.2. Getting it kind of cheap. Last time I read about it, maybe it was a misprint or maybe I miss you or whatever. It's not the entire It's not the entire property
though. It's split with Ocean County. So, Ocean County is taking the backward. We're taking the front portion that is the usable buildable land. Okay. with the anticipation that somewhere in the future down the line uh possibly public works being moved there out of the flood
zone, the water tower being up there. As far as salaries go, I know back in 2016 we were paying little egg $42,000 for the services of Garrick when he was the CFO in Little Egg. And then
one time I questioned here why we needed full-time CFO. Jenny said because the auditor said we did. But in talking to some of the towns we do business with various sizes sort of like ours, a lot of them have part-time CFOs. So I don't know why we can't do that. It used to be that when we
had had Little doing it under Garrett as a a shared service deal. We had the girl Maryanne Gaborti right here in the office did a lot of paperwork and then you had Jenny in the office. Well, when you were going to put him on fulltime, I asked Jenny what was going on. and she
said, "Well, the salary and benefits from Mary would help go towards his." But then we had the seat filled with another girl. Like, like I said, when I was the mayor, I say now you the burough hall is only open 9 to4. If you pay full-time salaries, there are a lot of discrepancies in salaries. I didn't get
them all yet, but if you could maybe join, you know, the tax collector and CFO and have somebody doing the work and everybody worked eight hours. If you have eight people in the burrow hall and you eliminate one, that gives you more eight hours. You know what I mean? It it' just be more efficient if the borrow
restructured a little bit to save some money. And uh you know, I think it's like bad because according to the salary owners, I'm not going to mention any names, but you have people working at public works that have been working here pretty much all their life getting you know, slightly more a third than the highest paid people here, you
know, and I just don't think that's right. And when you one problem I had when I was a mayor, you're doing this to percentage of salaries. Well, the people making you know earn 30,000 a year, they get 2%, they're getting a big raise. But the people are, you know, public works making 30 some 40 some thousand a year,
they're getting almost nothing. They're they have to work a full eight hours a day and then then they have to take their lunch break, you know, with not being count as work hours or like the police are on a shift, they could take their lunch break while they're working. If these guys in the B Hall take their break, they could do it, you know, that
means they're working less than seven hours a day for full-time pay if they're taking lunch breaks. So, I think that the burough should think about restructuring a little bit here. We're a small town and the salaries and the budget is getting out of hand. Okay. Thank you very much.
Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, I make a motion to close the public hearing. Second. I have a motion and a second to close this public hearing. All in favor? Um, is it just a motion to adopt? Um, read the resolution for the title thing
and then call first ordinance. The first one has to be here. So um the resolution authorizing read by title that first resolution of the
burough of Tucker County of Ocean State of New Jersey authorizing the reading of the 2025 municipal budget by title only and I move this resolution second. Okay. I have a motion and a second uh to read the uh budget by title only. All in
favor? Any opposed? three and then do ordinance three and then the budget. Okay. Uh sorry, mayor. Do you want me to roll call? Yes. Mr. Bland? Yes. Mr. Martin?
Yes. Mr. Kangelo? Yes. Mr. Dmore? Yes. Mr. Deree? Yes. Mr. Peterson? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Uh then next I have the second reading of ordinance 3 of 2025 uh which is the exor ordinance to exceed
the municipal budget appropriation limits and to establish cap bank pursuant to NJSA 4A4-45.14. And at this time I would like to open to public comment. I make a motion to open second. Okay. have a
motion and a second to open to public comment. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. All right. Do we have any comments or questions from the public in regards to ordinance number three uh establishing the cap
bank? All right. Seeing none, I make a motion to close the public comment. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second to close this. Um, all does have to be
a all in favor. I I oppose. All right. You're done. Okay. And then at this time, I make a motion that we adopt ordinance number three of 2025, calendar year 2025, ordinance to exceed the municipal
budget appropriations limits and establish a cap bank pursuant to NJSA 484-45.14. Second all right motion and a second as read. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Breand, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr.
Mr. Deorn, yes. Mr. Dupra. Yes. Mr. Peterson. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. And then now uh I make a motion that we adopt the 2025 municipal budget as
presented. Second. All right. I now have a motion and a second on this resolution as read. Roll call, please. Mr. Brilland. Yes. Mr. Martin. Yes. Mr. Kangelo. Yes. Mr. Dmore. Yes. Mr. Dupy. Yes. Mr. Peterson. Yes. Thank you.
And then that is it for presentation. Okay. Very good. So that takes care of this. Now we go on to legislation. Councilman Greenland. I can't be upstaged by Mr. Martin. So I'll say I have nothing to
know. Thanks. All right. So moving on finance. Councilman Martin here. All right. I have a bunch of stuff. Madam Mayor, um first I would like to say that um I messed up in setting up the live stream of the meeting tonight. So I
forgot to change the video from portrait mode to landscape mode. So I do not have it up on our website. It is however streaming live on YouTube. Okay. And then after the meeting um once it uploads to YouTube, I will then put it onto the website. Okay. So that's
there. Um I guess first order of business tonight is to do the second reading of ordinance number four of 2025 and open to public comment on that. So, I have ordinance number four of 2025, an ordinance of the burrow of Tucker in the
county of Ocean, state of New Jersey, providing for the acquisition of a vehicle for the police department and an ambulance in and for the burrow and appropriating $386,000. Therefore, and providing
providing for the issuance of $366,700 in bonds or notes of the bureau to finance the same. And at this time, I make a motion that we open for public comment. Second. Okay. I have a motion and a second to open public comment on
ordinance for as all in favor. I opposed. All right. Do we have any questions from the public? Mr. First, are you want Mr. to go first? Okay. Mr. Yeah, Lee 121 will tires tuck it in. Um,
I read on the the bill list it said a remount. You're buying a remount of a E450 and on the other paperwork it says new ambulance. Which is it? It's actually a combination of both. It's a brand new cab and the chassis uh the box
itself is a uh so it's remounted. Whose box was it? I don't know. It's a bought through BCI. Okay. So, it wasn't one from around here. Okay. Um, as far as goes, there's in there a
20-day waiting period. So, how do you like in the past we did firet trucks and everything, we had to wait for the 20-day waiting period till the money was in place to vote to purchase something like that? So, how can it be on the um agenda tonight to make the purchase? You just passed the bond a
20-day wait period. We always had to go by that. Even when I was a mayor, money wasn't in place. Even if you had to have a special meeting at the end of 20 days if you wanted to do it quick. No answer. No. Okay.
better put some more money in your budget for lawyer fees. Um, okay. Purchase tonight for an ambulance, power load, cotton equipment. Correct. That's what it says. What's the What's How much is the power load and cotton
equipment cost? It's $118,882. Okay. Um, who's going to operate the same am? It's going to be members of squad 85 and probably station 70 as well who
serves as EMS. Okay. So, where's it going to be housed at? Squad 85. It's going to be housed at Squad 85, the Great Base Building for Short. Yes. Okay. Now, I don't know if you're aware of it, but members of
Parkertown are telling me that even one of their high call runners, you got a guy driving the ambulances that's on some kind of disability out of New York. So, like in our fire company when somebody was on disability, Jenny wrote a letter, they weren't even allowed to respond to a call in their own vehicle
and watch because the disability. Are you aware of that? Are you going to check into it? Make sure they're not running our ambulance. Check into it. Huh? We'll check into it. Okay. Thanks. Um, who's going to be responsible for the maintenance of this
truck? In the past, it's always been squad 85, uh, they're, uh, driving it on a daily basis and, uh, when something has to be fixed, they generally take care of it. Okay. Do we have any kind of written agreement with Great BMS for EMS service
here or Parker Town for EMS service? No, we have last year's. Sir, just go buy him an ambulance with no agreement. Is that what you're saying? That what we're saying here? No, we're actually working on agreement now and it
just hasn't been finalized. Okay. Is this ambulance you're buying the one that's already BCI completed, lettered up for breaks? That's the one. So, it was already ordered previously even before the bond ordinance gets passed. Yeah, we had a special meeting for What's that? We had
a special meeting to uh give the authorization regardless of the bond ordinance because the fee for the truck was going to go up significantly as of January 1st. Okay. I try to watch all this stuff, but I didn't see a notice of special meeting in December. We It was
in December. Uhhuh. and we authorized the letter to go out to VCI stating that we would purchase if we wanted to. And what's the percentage of calls that Great Bay answers here in Tucker Bay? Well, we have the uh chief of Great Bay
EMS here. He can give a breakdown during the uh EMS report being What percentage of calls you making out of all calls? I don't have them in front of me. I'd have to go. Okay. That's another question cuz I see sometimes I mean barbecue came by
after you know a lot of other spots call you a lot of other people answering calls. I think that somebody here should know how many calls are being answered before you spend this much money. Okay, the percent it's easy to get from the county. All you got to do is call them up, get the list, and you'll be able to
find that out. So, nobody's done any research on this. You're just buying an ambulance, right? I will say that I was given the percentage of calls and the breakdown that squad 85 did versus quality back in December, but I do not have the numbers in front of me. I don't
even want to venture a guess without looking at them. But we were given the the breakdown of the number of calls that uh squad 85 is. It is a high percentage. And Mr. I know you know the answer to this
and it sounds sensational to everybody out in the audience. Oh, you just brought How many All it takes is a motor vehicle accident with two people hurt and you just tied up two ambulances. You know that. Well, we do. That's what I'm saying. Legally, you can't run two
patients in one ambulance. It has to be two separate. So if squad go by war is cheap, you know, if between squad 85 and station 70 with their ambulance, one motor vehicle accident, and then you're tied up with a slip and fall or
something cuts a finger, that's a third ambulance. And we rely on quality or Galloway. We go up to Mana Hawin all the time. Man Hawin comes down here at times. So it's a a big conglomerate. We
work with other departments and they work with us. That way we have coverage regardless of who shows up. It's because as squad 85 uh ambulances out or
uh it could be any circumstance. Okay. So this is going to be housed at Great Bay. How's this work between Great Bay Park Town? Great comes out of Parker Town. It's kept up there whenever happens sometimes. Well, we have a Squad 85 ambulance at
70. Plus, at 70, we have our own ambulance as well. So, we can actually run two different crews out of uh station 70, which is Parker Town for those that don't know the numbers. Um, at the same time, we have many EMS's that uh are members of station 70 and
also dual members. What I'm hearing understand is a lot of times big gets called, they can't get out. Then Parkertown gets called and they could be either grape amules or your amules. I'm sure you've seen your amules Parker
Towns also. We run a lot 855 which is a squad 85 ambulance out of 70. We also have 704 which is a town ambulance. When 855 is being used on one call and we get
another one, we'll take 704 uh with another EMT on board. Okay. So, in other words, you're going to you said you're going to look into and find out about somebody drive that's on disability, right? Okay. And we don't have an answer yet on how you buy the
ambulance without the 20-day waiting period to go by first. Nobody, not even the attorney. Huh? Okay. We will get an answer for you, Mr. G item on the agenda. What's that? We haven't gone to that item on the agenda yet, Mr.
Okay, thank you. I see my podium still here. John, 707 South Green Street, Tucker, New Jersey. Uh I've I've been I've been in Tucket now for 21 years and in all
respect Mr. Eert seriously I mean I've known that guy for 20ome years and he's did he's done an awful lot for this township especially with Christmas times and making everybody feel good around the holidays and everything like that. and he's
talking from experience, but every time the guy comes up, you know, you you you you treat him like uh he's an outcast. I mean, these are these are legitimate questions. And the biggest question is, if we don't have an ambulance and we don't have a firehouse, why are we
paying any money to anybody for ambulance service when we're paying people to do our fires and stuff? It shouldn't have to be coming out of our money. We don't have a firehouse. We don't have an ambulance. But now we're putting $119,000 out for an ambulance. It's going to be not even here in
Tucker. It's going to be around the corner in uh 85. I mean I mean how do you how do you justify that? Well, we do have a firehouse. It's Parker Town is our designated fire service. It's not by law. We have to provide fire service
coverage to the town. That's why we should have our own service. I would have loved to have had our own. If I'm going to spend $195,000, I want to fix a fire. The other question that I have, which scalls me, where what happened to the money on a million dollar fire truck? Where's that money?
So, the money we sold that, didn't we? We're We're off We're off this bond ordinance, mayor, but if I could, I'll gladly answer that. Sure. What's a part, I think. So, uh, the Burrow of Beach Haven is purchasing the old fire truck.
Wait, no, brand new. We bought it two years ago, didn't we? Yes. So, they're buying bought it. They We went out to bid. They were the winning bid on it. The Burough Beach Haven will have that. We will receive that money. That money will though go to debt service. We'll be
paying down the bonds on the fire truck that we purchased. Plus, we come our way some more so that we can pay down more debt service after that. Okay. Now, the how many other fire trucks were there in the in the uh you know, the Tuppet
service? They had two or three other fire trucks, didn't they? Where they Where are they at? What the h? Three. Three total. Right. Four total. Counting. Three more. So, do we sell them, too? Uh, we're still in possession of all three of those other ones. Well,
the one the rescue truck uh is being used going to be used by our designated public uh fires. No, our designated fire department. Okay. But see, that's another thing. We're putting the money out to go to somewhere else.
Okay. Coming out of our, you know, going to our tax dollar. And we don't even own the truck. We do. No, we do. Okay. We've never lost ownership of it. They uh still respond to Tucker and uh it's actually being housed. So, it's not out in the weather like most people are
concerned about. It's being housed inside a firehouse. And uh in a catastrophe, it will be the first responder for Tucker. Um, and we're trying to work out a uh an agreement with the other existing trucks uh in
case there's high water in Tina Beach. We need to evacuate to be able to utilize those trucks and to keep them inside too out of the weather. Well, and then you know I mean we have a firehouse just sitting out there. You know what I mean? We do not have
the fire company has a fire. Yeah, they own it. Right. So I mean but it just seems to me like you know, we're spending money and we don't have the service in here. So, I mean, it's up to you guys. So, if you call 911, someone will be there. Oh, I I know that. I know
that. I understand. If you call 911, uh, for any medical emergency, Squad 85 will be there. Or if not, um, one of the other services that are covering the area. Yeah. And I'm not, you know, questioning that because I had you had to use them a couple of times and they were great when they came to my house.
But, you know, after 21 years of, you know, watching Mr. record every Christmas. Okay. Uh when we when our town is enjoying life for Christmas, instead of having a fire truck come two weeks ahead of time and Santa is waving to the kids, he had u a carriage with
Santa on it with the twins on it and Joe uh from the from the committee and it was just amazing here. It was amazing to live in Tucker 10 years ago and now everything is just gone. It's changed.
It's changed at a point where we're not we're not enjoying life here anymore. I mean I'm serious. Not to correct you, John, but uh Parker Town went down every single street in Tucka Beach. Santa was actually on a sleigh being pulled by I
saw I saw that was me. So was that Christmas Eve? It wasn't Christmas. It was a week a week or so before. It was the Saturday before Christmas. Well, that's what I'm saying. I mean, Christmas is, you know, we when we did it, it was the night before Christmas. So, kids still believe in Santa Claus.
Oh, we know that. But when you see him a week ahead of time, you know what I mean? They think it's the guy on the mall. I understand that Christmas is important, but also saving lives and getting the answers out to them. Fire and EMS is very important, too. So, we had to take a look at both everything that deals with why we had to get rid of
the fire company and the change to EMS. All right. That's important, too. of of course, but you know, I mean, I mean, I I don't think that that we really have to treat Mr. Eggert that he's like an outcast. I mean, be honest with you. I mean, I don't know all the facts about the litigations and all like that and
all, but it it's just it seems to me this guy has done an awful lot for traffic over the course of, you know, the time I've been here. And now the holidays come and go, and you know what I mean? It's entirely different around here. I mean, that's just my opinion. No, I mean just like you said, things
change, but I don't think they're changing to the good. Thank you very much. Thank you for your opinion. Okay. Are there any other comments? Uh, seeing none, I'll make a motion that we close the public comment section.
Second. Okay. I have a motion and a second to close the public comment section. All in favor? I opposed. All right. And at this time, I make a motion that we adopt ordinance number four of 2025, an ordinance of the Burough of Tucker in the county of Ocean State of New Jersey, providing for the
acquisition of a vehicle for the police department and an ambulance in and for the burrow and appropriating $386,000. Therefore, I'm providing for the issuance of $366,700 in bonds or notes of the burrow
to finance the same. Second. Okay. You made a motion. I did. I started. All right. Roll call, please. Mr. Brilland. Yes. Mr. Martin. Yes. Mr. Kangelo. Mr. Demore. Yes. Mr. Dupra.
Abstain. Mr. Peterson. Yes. Thank you. My next order of business is a resolution um pertaining to salaries of certain officers employees of the Burrow of Tucker. Uh a resolution of the Burrow of Tuckeran County of Ocean State of New Jersey designating salaries for certain
officers and employees of the Burrow of Tucker. And Savannah, did you get this up on the website by chance? the this resolution cuz I'll put it up to No, I did not. So that it's posted. Um
which one? Huh? We never put it on the website but yet I didn't put it up. Um and I move this resolution. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second on this resolution as read. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Breand, yes. Mr. Martin,
yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Dorn, yes. Mr. we pray. Yes, Mr. Peterson. Yes. Thank you. I'm sorry I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I know it's not one of the normal ones that would go up with the whole the bills list and stuff. That's why I was just curious if it was up
because I can throw it up there. Uh next, I have a resolution for the payment of claims for this month. Um, this month we have 1,973,837.19 going out. A couple of them I want to point out is Tuckeran
Elementary School in the amount of $332,7542. Pinelands Regional School District in the amount of $610,31. our Ocean County Municipal Joint Insurance in the amount of 133,911 uh dollars. And then one more that I
wanted to point out is a payment of just over $45,000 going out to Challenger Fence. That is for the new backs stop which is up over at the All Wars Memorial Ball Field. Um that is coming out of grant money. So that's not coming
out of taxpayer money, but I wanted to really point that out cuz I went over on Saturday and watched some of baseball game going on and it was awesome watching them play that the new back stop looks fantastic. So thank you to Councilman Diamour and Councilman
Peterson for all your work that you guys have done making that look nice. It look good with the concession stand open, the announcers booth working, everything. It was really, really nice to see that in the center of town. Um, so I have a resolution of the Burough of Tucker County of Ocean State of New Jersey
authorizing payment of claims in the amount of 1,973,837.19. And I move this resolution second. All right. I have a motion and a second on this resolution as read, please. Mr. Rand, yes. Mr. Barton, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Bemore, yes.
Mr. Dupra, yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Thank you. Thank you. Uh my next resolution is one that I seem to do every single year right around this time. Um which is uh authorizing the MAC grant the 2025
MAC grant. So, a resolution of the Burough of Tucker County votion, state of New Jersey, authorizing the governor's council on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse 2025 fiscal grant cycle uh July 1st, 2025 through June 30th, 2026.
And I move this resolution second. Okay, we have a motion and a second on this resolution. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Brand, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Mr. Yes, Mr. Depri. Yes, Mr. Peterson. Yes.
Thank you. Good. Uh, my next resolution is for chapter 159 for the recycling tonnage grant. Um, I have a resolution of the Burrow of Tucker, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, authorizing a chapter 159 for
the fiscal year 2025 recycling tonnage grant for the 2025 municipal budget. And I move this resolution. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second on this resolution. Will call all vote, please. Mr. Freeland, yes. Mr. Martin,
yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Dmore, yes. Mr. Dupree, yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Thank you. And my final resolution is for a co-op, a co-op uh for Cranford, member. I have a resolution of the Burough of Tucker County, State of New Jersey, authorizing the burough to enter
into a cooperative pricing agreement. and I move uh sorry with the Cranford Police Cooperative Pricing System and I move this resolution second. Okay. Again, we have a motion and a second on this resolution. Roll call vote, please.
Uh Mr. Breland, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Dmore, yes. Mr. Dra, yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Thank you. And mayor, that is all I have until we get to committee. Okay. There was a lot of business there. All
right. Let's move on. Public works, water, and sewer. Council, thank you, your honor. Uh, three resolutions I'll be reading this evening. Another road opening permit. We're going to authorize the sale of certain municipal vehicles and finally award a bid for a new 30 yard rolloff
dumpster. Just a couple of reminders that the Ocean County Department of Solid Waste Management has two programs that are currently active. One is the household hazardous waste and the residential document shredding program.
All the details and how to sign up are on our website. I have a resolution in Burough Tucker County votes to save New Jersey authorizing the approval of a road opening permit on King Fisher Road for block 113 lot 43 and granting relief
under section 419-15 of the Burough Cove and that is to reconnect the gas service at 324 King Fiser and I move this resolution second. All right, I have a motion and a second on this resolution as read call vote please. Mr. Brilland.
Yes. Mr. Martin. Yes. Mr. Kangelo. Yes. Mr. Dmore. Yes. Mr. Dupra. Yes. Mr. Peterson. Yes. Thank you. Have a resolution of Tucker and County of Ocean State, New Jersey authorizing the sale of certain municipal vehicles,
a 2006 Ford E250 and a 2003 Ford F350. And I move this resolution. Second. Okay. I have a motion and a second on the sale of these municipal vehicles. Roll call vote, please. Mr. Breland, yes. Mr. Martin, Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr.
Dmore, yes. Mr. Dupra, yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Thank you. And finally, resolution of the Burough Tucker County of Ocean State, New Jersey, awarding a contract for the purchase of 30 yard rolloff dumpster. Two quotes were received and uh waste
equipped submitted the lowest price quotation in accordance with the bare specs said bid being in the amount of $8506. I move this resolution second. Okay, we have a motion and a second on this resolution. Roll call vote, please.
Mr. Yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Demore, yes. Yes. That's all I have. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Moving on, buildings and grounds and community affairs. Councilman, thank you. Mayor I
interrupt at this point. Um I wish to address the resolution which is on the agenda is 9A resolution ordering purchase for an ambulance. Just so Mr. Zriski understands that Mr. Edgar's comments are not marginalized or
taken for granted in any manner and we listen to what Mr. Edgar has to say. Mr. Mr. Edgar is right that you cannot award a contract until the money is actually in place. That's the advice that I would would have given Mr. Edgar and did give Mr. Edgar when he was the mayor of the town and it's the device that I continue
to give the governing body. Uh it had nothing to do with the bond ordinance itself. I was going to address that resolution when we got to it on the agenda because the comments were limited to the bond ordinance itself. So this resolution is specifically for the purchase of an ambulance, the funding of
which would come from the bond ordinance, which would take effect after 20 days, the posting of the publication of the bond approval. My suggestion is that you table this resolution at this time until the money is in place by virtue of the bond ordinance or any
alternative, you should receive an opinion from bond council that the municipality may award notwithstanding the 20-day period of the bond ordinance. I'm not bond counsel. I'm the general counsel. Uh but generally speaking of the laws, which is that you cannot award
a contract till the money's in place so that the CFO can certify as to the availability of funds. So I would appropriately request that this item be tabled at this time either pending the passage of the bond ordinance and it effective date or an opinion from bond
council. Okay. A motion to table that. Correct. I need a motion. motion. Okay. I move table second. All right. I have a motion and a second that we table this resolution. Roll call, please. Mr.
Freland? Yes. Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. Kangelo? Yes, sir. Mr. Bemore? Yes. Mr. Dupra? Yes. Mr. Peterson? Yes. Uh, thank you, mayor. I I have two resolutions I'm not reading tonight. But on the lighter
side, I would like to um say something about the ball field. Um I I saw a game a week ago on Sunday evening and uh I was very pleased with the amount of people the
uh how they took care of the field because they had to do some work on it themselves. Um and and how the game went. And one of the things that we had talked about um doing with the field was that we thought maybe we needed to have
some playground equipment there at the field. Well, we don't need playground equipment. We have a pile of dirt and the dirt kept the kids busy for hours. It was uh it was fun to watch them and
uh I think that's all we have to do every year is make sure there's a pile of dirt for our kids. That's all I have to say. Might as well put some shovels and rakes out there. Mayor, I just would request since there was a we tabled the previous resolution. We didn't incorporate both resolutions
in the same motion. So, I'd ask it a motion to table the second resolution which was listed as 9B. Move to table the second resolution. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second to table the second resolution. Well, call
vote, please. Mr. Freeland. Yes. Mr. Martin. Yes. Mr. Kangelo. Yes. Mr. Dmore. Yes. Mr. Dupra. Yes. Mr. Peterson. Yes. Thank you. All right. Finished. That's it. Okay. Very good. Now we'll move on to administration and regulation.
Councilman. Thank you, your honor. I have uh two notable items. The first is approval. I'm requesting for the March 17th meeting with the executive session. Does any council person have any additions or corrections they'd like to
make to those minutes? And I see no hands. So, uh, I move that we accept the minutes as written. Second. There's a motion and a second on the floor to accept the minutes. Roll call, please.
Mr. Brand, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Mr. Dear, yes. Mr. Dra, yes. And your honor, finally, I would ask if uh Deputy Chief Lauren Runza from Station 70, which is Parkertown Volunteer Fire Company, would come
forward and give a monthly report. Good evening, Madame Mayor and Council. Um, thank you for having me this evening. Um, in the month of March, Parkertown Fire Company gladly responded to 10 fire calls in the burrow of Tucker
along with 14 EMS calls. Um, during March, we also had two meetings, one with Harbor View Apartments and the Tucker Beach Us Association where we spoke to them about uh, fire safety and EMS safety and we had some wonderful
giveaways with them. We had coffee and donuts with them, answered any questions they had um about response in this area and it was a very nice event. Um we have also recently opened up our uh reopened I should say our junior firefighter
program at Harpertown Fire Company. We were over the last few years um doing a program with the Boy Scouts of America, but we have now gone back to the junior firefighter program. We are um currently starting to advertise that also within
the Burrow of Tucker, inviting any um child uh from the ages of 12 to 17 to come out for the junior firefighter program. And we're doing this in hopes to lead them towards a career path in fire service. Um, on top of that, I
would just like to um touch on something that a gentleman earlier had talked about and just so that the town council is aware of our protocols as far as the um Santa run goes in December.
Um, all of the fire companies in the area, Eagleswood Township, Mystic Islands Fire Company, and uh, West Tucker Fire Company along with Parkertown all do a Santa run because all of the children still do believe in
Santa, they also do know that when they go to the mall and places like that, Santa is there before Christmas Eve, before the night for Christmas. Because where does he belong on Christmas Eve or the night before? In the North Pole getting ready to go on the sleigh,
right? So, of course, you know, he does get out there to visit the children before that time frame. Now, a lot of work goes into deciding when Santa's going to go out. Now, there is only one Santa Claus. The children know that. So,
we very well can't be having Santa in Eagleswood on Monday night and in West Tucker at the same time. So the fire chiefs in all the local areas do discuss when they will be doing their Santa runs and we all try and alternate so that we
don't have two Santaas passing by at the same time alerting the children. So that's how we come up with when Santa will be out. It's not because we don't want to be out on Christmas Eve or the day before, but it really is um a coordinated effort between all of the
fire companies so that we do maintain that element for the children. Okay, that's all right. Thank you very much. Please stay right here for a second. Um, while you're here, I'm going to uh share with council. Uh, I went to your uh your
installation dinner and it was a very very nice um time that evening and you presented to uh the Parkertown Firehouse to the Tucker Burough Council uh 2024.
And this is a very nice little clock there and I just thank you so much. I was totally surprised by that and I think it's very beautiful and I've had it safe at home and I finally said all
right this is coming tonight with me and again I thank you very much for that and thank you on behalf of the council and um just one other added thing I would like uh since the gentleman is standing here I would like to tell you that um during the times that we have uh answered our calls in Tuckeran your
police department has bent over backwards to be helpful um and kind and we really um have enjoyed working with them. So on behalf of the Parkertown Fire Company, we would like to thank you very much for all of your hard work and help. Just thank you for mentioning that. We we thoroughly admire our police
and all the things that they do there. Thank you. And uh Dave, have you got anything to offer? No, not this time. This time. Thank you. That's all I have, your honor. Okay, fine. Thank you very much. I hope everybody had a happy Easter.
Yes. All right. Moving on to number 11 on our agenda. Law and public safety. Councilman Peterson. Thank you, honor. I have one resolution to read tonight. You You got to have table this one too.
Table this one too. Yes. Okay. Second. All right. So I have a motion and a second to table this resolution at this time. We'll call vote, please. Mr. Brilen, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Deore, yes. Mr. Dry,
yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Thank you. Okay. And that's all I don't have here. All right. I have a few other things. Uh first of all, I received a resignation from Michael Reing from the grape vine
from uh the Tucker Economic Development Committee. I hereby resign from the Tucker Economic Development Committee because the time that the EDC meets conflicts with my restaurant business and I am not able to attend the
meetings. So I would uh do I have to second? I have a motion and a second to accept this resignation. All in favor? Can I add one thing to that? So Mike was a great asset. Um but unfortunately the
economic development committee meets right during dinner rush. So being the owner of the grapevine, it makes it very hard for him to actually attend the meetings. Um but he will be he will be missed. Um he was a nice help. He had some very good ideas and I'm sure we can
call on him to help when we have other things going on. And then in his place I would like to appoint a resolution of the Burrow of Tucker County of Ocean State of New Jersey appointing a member to the Tucker Burough Economic
Development Committee. And this person is Ken Laney to uh let's see for term to expire December 31st, 2026. I move that resolution. Okay. I have a
motion and a second to accept this. Uh roll over, please. Um Mr. Bland, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Peterson, yes. Okay. Thank you very much. That's good.
Uh and then finally, I wanted to uh remind everyone that we have our annual Arbor Day celebration on Wednesday this time, the 30th of April. So that's coming up. We could not meet and and do
it on Friday like we normally do because school is up for Easter. So we will be meeting on the last day of the month on uh Wednesday. We have 14 um students from the elementary school whose uh
writing h they will share at this and we have first and second uh medals to to give to these uh children. And then uh the second half of this celebration we always honor someone from the town and
uh we will be adding a name to our uh thing up there on the wall. that very beautiful thing that Joanna McDrew had uh designed at one time and uh it's going to be Elaine Mccclure and her
husband Bill. So, we're looking forward to that. Uh Elaine, if you know her, uh was kind of all over town. She she was into a lot of things. I worked with her on the library board. Uh she was a very successful um real estate saleswoman and
um she She made she made very good that way. So, we're honoring her and her husband. She was always by her side. And that's all that I have. So, I will turn it over to Mr.
Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Cons. Well, as the Grinch that stole the ambulance in the police car, I have nothing. Okay, move on. M. Um, I have uh one thing. I have a few things actually. The first thing I have is a facility use form for the Tucker
Beach Association to use the um South Green Street Park for uh June 21st uh July 19th and August 9th. I made that motion. Second. Okay. So, I have a motion and a second uh for the use
of the park roll, please. Uh Mr. Breand, yes. Mr. Martin, yes. Mr. Kangelo, yes. Mr. more. Yes. Mr. Dupree. Yes. Mr. Peterson. Yes. Um Okay. And then the next thing I have
is two raffle license from the Friends of Little Lake Harbor um branch of Ocean County Library. They will be having a raffle on Wednesday, August 20th. One is a 5050 and one is an off- premise
raffle. I made that motion. Waiver of faith. Okay. Do I have a motion? We have a motion in a second. Roll call room, please. Mr. Freeland? Yes. Mr. Martin? Yes. Mr. Kangelo? Yes. Mr. Dmore? Yes. Mr. Dup? Yes. Mr. Peterson? Yes. Okay.
And then the last thing I have is an application for a raffle license from the STO Craftsman Club. Uh, actually two of them. One for July 4th, 2025, and the other one's for December 7th, 2025. I made that motion. Second. Okay. So, a motion to second on these draft
applications. Bill call, please. Mr. Brilland. Yes. Mr. Martin. Yes. Mr. Mr. Dmore. Yes. Mr. Mr. Peterson. Yes. That's all I have this evening. Okay. So, we're ready to
move on. And do are there any other You have some things for reports. Well, you stole my one. I'm sorry. Um, you usually steal what I have to say. So, um, just to reiterate what the mayor said about
Arbor Day. Um, so it's April 30th, Wednesday, April 30th. The, um, reading from the elementary school kids will be right here at 6:00 p.m. followed by at 700 p.m. or right around 7 p.m. will be for Bill and Elaine Mccclure right
after. Um, so I think the only thing you missed was the times on that, which is 6 6 p.m. it starts with the Tucker Elementary School kids, 7:00 p.m. for laying the floor. Um, and we have that divided out. I do the kids and um,
Councilman Martin does the other. So that's good. Um and then the only other real piece of news from Pride and Celebration Committee is that um this summer the Friday night concert series will be held at the All Wars Memorial
Ball Field. Um we have acquired a trailer to build a stage um that will then be donated to the to the burrow. Um it's privately acquired. It'll be donated to the burrow um once it's ready to go and we will have a
stage that can be wheeled out right there to home plate so that we have access to the electricity coming out of the announcers booth and the snackjack there for the bands and we'll be holding all these summer concerts um at the ball field. At the next meeting I will have a
list of the actual dates. I know the first one isn't until um July 11th and then it'll be every Friday. I think we have I want to say six total scheduled. Um but I'll have all the dates and the
bands that will be playing on those dates at our next meeting. Okay, that's good. So, it'll be a fun summer. So, uh I think we're ready for one thing. Yes. uh EDC is in the process
of uh organizing and putting together a chamber of commerce be the Tucker Chamber of Commerce. Hopefully all the business will businesses will come aboard. I think it's going to be a big plus for the town. Uh probably be able to organize a lot more events uh and
bring a lot more people into the town to spend their money at our stores. Hopefully it works out well. That's all I have. items too as well. And uh I wanted to read the monthly construction
report. Uh we uh issued uh nine permits uh resale 13 transfer title 2 zoning 19. Uh the inspections performed uh construction wise were 66 total. Uh bulkheads were four, plumbing 39,
electric 20, complaints three, zoning were three. And then for the uh code enforcement, uh on on-site inspections were 21, violation notices sent were four, working violations were six, violations cleared were four, phone
complaints were 22, housing inspections were 21, and one bulkhead inspection and then open requests were two. That's all I had on. Thank you. Okay, you've been busy. Keep it up. All right, that's
good. So, we're all set. Uh well, motion to open public form. Motion to open the public forum. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second to open public forum. All in favor? I We're going to listen to anything that
you have to say. You have 20 Edgewater Drive Tuckerman. Um, I attended the TVA meeting. Um, and I saw the whole firehouse EMS thing, which is really good. There were some questions about the environmental committee um,
that no one in the audience could answer. I was called upon to answer those questions and they wanted to know what the environmental committee does, which is basically the community garden, the downtown planters clean up along
Route 9 in a nutshell. Um, it's been a lot of stuff on Facebook. People want to know when the yard sale is going to be, Brian. I guess I should have announced that. It's June 7th, is it? Okay. June 7th. Well, now I have an answer to give them, but um, you know, the art I saw
the TVA post of that today. Yeah. And Bunny beat me to answering it. So, did she put it? I didn't see it. It will be June 7th. Um, I was involved with a combined effort um at Parkertown Firehouse and it was nice to see the two
fire companies come together to help myself and Mr. De out complete the job we were doing. Um, I just want to let you know that they're working together whether you see it or not. A lot of times you don't see the stuff that goes on. That's right. It's a lot of it's
done behind the scenes. Also, speaking of behind the scenes, um, I want to thank Jenny and Sam. You may not know about this, Sam, but Paradise Cove got all these street signs. My neighbor paid for them. I g them, dropped them off. They're really
nice. They say Paradise Cove on. They're really cool. They reflect and everything. Um, so that's all done. And is the ball field going to use a sound system? Yes. that we donated last year to PBA, the Paradise Go Association. Yeah, they used it. Awesome. And use it.
You know what? I'll be I'll probably be able to hear the council better at my house now. It's a little bit closer. Have a good night. All right. Thank you very much. Anyone else from the public? All right. I have I have one thing that
I I'm sorry, Mr. Mr. 121 Terrace Tucker. I wanted to mention too, I forgot to mention that that bond for the annual says specifically says on there in and for the burrow of Tucker, just so you're
aware of that. Um, as far as uh you're into like 120 some thousand a year now the rate you're paying for fire and EMS protection now you're buying an ambulance. I gave the rescue truck which I told you a few meetings ago if be worth thousands of dollars. So I think
when people find out what really went down behind the scenes here with the fire company they're going to wind up paying more. You know it's not going to be good. Um, one thing I want to mention too, a few months ago I brought up about the police cars going to uh, Lok Harbor to get front end aligners, paying more than
we would pay for wheels, short wheels, side machine, and Mr. Martin said, "Well, they have a new machine up there and they all been freshly trained on it." Well, I talked to Mr. Miller back in front of my shop, John's dad, he said, "They have a hunter machine there, too." And it's funny because how do you
generate pride in town when you have the chairman of the economic development committee who's a volunteer? You know, his business doesn't get to work yet the public works director according to Jetty makes the decisions, takes up to what I found out is a friend of his up in uh Loka Harbor
to get the things done. And then when I came the economic development meeting, Mr. Martins asking John Miller to agree some bearings on this trailer of the burough boy. You're lucky it wasn't me. I would have told them to go to hell. I mean, that's really how you treat your burrow people. Send it to work out of
town. You want them to do free favors. How's that going to work out in the long run? So, you could talk all you want about economic development, chamber of commerce, but still the burough starts looking out for its own. You're never going to have anything there, especially after what he did to the fire company and this kind of stuff. Okay. Um, one
thing I was looking at too on the uh on the bill list you're paying like um between what the monthly bills are would either be somewhere between 16,200 19 thou 16,800 and
19,200 a year to get the burough buildings clean. And um I looked up it's called the Aaron girl and it turns out that's the wife of the public works superintendent also. Has anybody from the burrow ever been getting a chance to get that contract or that deal or does
it just go to somebody works for the burrow? Their friends out of town. How's that work? Huh? We've seen outside quotes and they're double what Okay. is charged. All over and request the paperwork. Um, last thing I want to ask, um, I noticed
you have red Mike. Yeah, you're a councilman. I noticed you have red flash and lights on your vehicle going to calls. Why do you have them? That's four ways. Okay. There's no red red lights on the front on the rear. Well, you're on your tail lights. They were alternating
flashing one and the other. Yeah, that's flashing. Four ways. Four ways to off simultaneous. I have a permit for emergency lights on my vehicle. What's it say that I have an that what's your position? You have a red light permit. I'm a lieutenant in the fire department.
Okay. Join chief assistant chief. Well, I think can tell you that. your red light permit. So why do you have You're a lieutenant, right? So you're So in other words, you have them on your truck. I have you have a red light per tail lights. What's that? The tail lights. When I put the
flashers on, the brake lights will flash. No, the tail lights alternately flash. They left, right, left, right. Have you seen that? I'm sure some of your officers have seen it from patrol. Okay. Okay. Well, what I'll do since you
started the morning stuff here live was never a life member of Parker Town. Um, you want to write a ticket or want me to go see the clerk in a couple days and write the summits? We have to see it. But I have never seen You just said the red lights on back. No, I didn't. I said I have flashing uh
tail. Yeah, alternate. I didn't say alternate. I said they flash when I put the four-ways on. Okay. But if you have four-ways on, they both flash the same time. They don't red. Boom. Boom. Not alternating flashlight. So, don't go
there. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay. Uh, if I could, your honor, Mr. Edgar had mentioned that uh Parker Town takes an exorbitant amount of time to respond to fires and Tucker would be there at
the speed of the light. Do you want people to respond in a reasonable amount of time? Legally? Yes. Legally? out of pop his ass politician thinks he's above the law. Mr. Zubriski, remember what you were saying about why does anybody
attack Mr. Edgar? That statement may be why. Also, I was the first responder at a motor vehicle accident in front of Mr. Edgar's shop. He called me an Mfer. No, I did. I said you're a corrupt councilman. I don't call You said that, too. But you also I don't use MF. I said
you're a corrupt councilman. I have witnesses here. You don't have the floor anymore. Let me Don't Don't sit there and lie, Mike. Well, I just happened to have You lied. You're in public. I got you. You go ahead and continue. That's it. You're
let stop yelling. I'm going to have you. Go ahead. Take me out. Chill. Relax. Please. Let me finish. I have a witness that heard it and told me exactly what you said. I heard you say something and then your son had to stop you and
restrain you from coming over to me. No, he didn't. He did. He said, "Dad, dad, dad, no, no, no, no. Go ahead, dad." No, he didn't. No. Yeah. Well, he'll be here at the next meeting. So will my neighbors. Well, there was a couple witnesses that uh saw that. And four of us were there, Mike.
But anyhow, if you're so concerned about people responding from Parker Town, how long it takes, open your building up. Parker Town will have a truck there today working out of that building. If you're worried about response, most of
the members uh respond from Tucker now. We have a lot of members from Tucker and we respond to Parkertown. So, if you open up that building, put your money where your mouth is. If you're so caring about our community, let us keep some trucks there at that building. We'll
talk to the president contract. We'll talk about it. Contract. Okay. Is there anyone else? Yes. I have two things I would like to add. Um, corrections to what Mr. Edgar said. Um,
he said that at the EDC meeting, um, I asked about John Miller greasing some bearings on the trailer that the burrow is buying. The burrow is not buying any trailer. I personally bought the trailer with my own money and once we have the
stage built, I'm the one that will be donating it to the town. So, there was no request. There was no request for the burrow by um along those same lines. I don't want to speak on behalf of John Miller. He can speak for himself, but I
did have a conversation with John Miller about doing the front end alignment. And John had said that he typically does not seek out bidding on um government jobs because they want things done right away
instantly and he doesn't like to operate like that. That's why he has never gone out to bid in the recent years for front end alignments on any of the vehicles or anything. So it's not that the burrow is has no pride in their u businesses in
town. the business in town in question has no interest in doing that job for the burrow and John's doing quite well with what he's doing um without having that. So that is his choice. Um and that was a conversation that I had with him.
But if you'd like any more information on that, please feel free to speak to John Miller himself on that. That was the only two corrections I had to what he said. And I got to say there there is no war, Mr. Edgar. if maybe in your mind there is not in mine. I brushed you off
years ago and uh unfortunately a lot of the residents know where you come from and it's it's the same thing over and over again. Anybody that uh attacks their own EMS service and their own fire company by putting a fire truck in front
of their business, saying Tuckeran Fire Company, makers of fine charcoal, somebody that does that to their very own fire company. I mean, you can't deny that. I mean, that's obvious. No, I can't. That's that's exactly right. And
we know everything about you. And uh so if you want to start a war, start a war. Don't include me. Keep me out of it. But if your house is on fire, I'll be one of the first people there. And if you have a heart attack in your front yard, I will be the first one to help put you on
a stretcher and give you CPR if you need it because I'm here for not a certain people. I'm here for everybody in the community, including you. Thank you. Okay. Beth, absolutely. May I approach?
And we're still in public, remember we bring love and sunshine. Yes. Um, is that your name and address? Oh, Beth Jensky Barbon 29 Cedar Street, Tucker. Um, I have so many things I want to say.
The environmental commission. So, we had a road clean up. Thanks for coming, Brian. Um I think as in reference to what we do it seems that well for a couple years there wasn't any
correct we get a little steam going and I don't know why people drop out because we can't but anyway we're get we do get things done and we will get more things done it's just we're volunteers dude so I don't know what to
tell you um working on the environment Yes. And everything counts where that's considered. And really, it's just in town. I know that the TVA and I know that um Paradise Cove, I know they had their cleanups, too. Or wait, maybe Paul
didn't. I don't remember. But anyway, um it seems to be that, and I've seen this other places, it's those little liquor bottles, but cigarette butts. That's really what it is. I mean, we did go in and get
plastic and big garbage, but I didn't know you weren't supposed to go into the the bushes and I like pulled out these big tarps. But anyway, um also, what else was I going to say? I asked Emily, our our lovely reporter, to make sure
that Santa Claus and Christmas was the headline for this meeting. I I want to curse, but I won't. Um, also, wait, there was something else. I guess I'll save it for next time because I don't really remember because I'm going to be 64 this weekend. So,
happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Welcome to the club. Mr. Zriski, would you like to talk from where you are? No, I don't mind. I I need exercise. They tell me I got to walk all the time. We can carry you to when you're in the room. Plus, he wants
to enjoy this podium. Oh, yeah. I mean, the podium for me. All right. Thank you. I bought that tripod for the camera just just so that you could have your podium back and you you can't believe how good you guys look on TV. Before you just saw your head.
Yeah. And the rumor was there's Walking Dead tonight and they don't say that anymore. So, I give you credit. I want to give you credit for another thing if I can. 707 South Green Street, Ton, New Jersey. Brian, I went to your affair at the Redmond, the Brian Celebration uh
for the uh fireworks, and you put a first class first class job in there. That was the first job. First class operation. The people fed you, they brought the food to the table, and you raised money for the township, and you did a great job. And I just wanted to start out with that. Thank you. Okay.
The committee works very hard and we're up to 23 I think members on that 4th of July. It was a nice turnout when the people were all there. They didn't even have to go. We had fun doing it too. It was incredible. Um I have an issue that I've
been trying to get taken care of for eight years. Uh Jim uh the inspector is a friend of mine. I treat him is a I hope he's a friend of mine because he's a friend. I feel he's a friend. He's come to my house. He's come to the house every year
and I'm glad he's here. I call him and I say, "Jim, it's John again." And he goes, "All right, John, I know it's about the abandoned boat in the yard next to you. Eight years now I've been dealing with him." And all I can say is that he does
a fabulous job. He came right out every time. He calls me back. He even calls me when I'm in Florida to see if I'm okay. And that's a friend. Okay. So, I wouldn't have anything to say bad about him. But, so he goes he goes he goes, "My
hands are tied. I can't do anything for you. My hands are tied." Okay. So, I said, "Well, what do you think?" I said, 'Well, until council passes a decent resolution about abandoned boats, abandoned cars on the property that has
some meat in it, we're not ever going to take care of the take care of the issue. So, what I did was I figured I'm going to call Keith because I respect the man and I think he does a great job and I wanted to go up the next level and see what I could do about this. It was eight
years of getting nothing. Okay. And I brought in Mr. decree and I talked with him about it and these gentlemen will tell you that I, you know, spoke with both of them about this and Keith said that I'm going to work on an ordinance to take care of your problem. After I
invited him to down to my house, which he came to my house, he looked at the boat and he goes, "It's ridiculous. the the tires and the rims are halfway in the ground and the boat's been there for eight years and the township tuckered in. They supposedly can't do anything
about it because the bow is registered. It don't mean nothing though. It doesn't care if it's registered or not. It's just but still it's it's junk and it shouldn't be able to stay there for 8 years. There's no that shouldn't be allowed to be on the property for eight years. You got to keep your property up. So why wouldn't you have to keep your
boat up? It's registered. That's all I can say is based on the ordinance and the state's ordinance, if it's a registered vehicle, it it's not abandoned. So, I can go get, you know, five old boats and throw them on my property. I let them sit there. Our ordinance limits the number of boats and
vehicles you can Okay. Can I ask you what the amount is on that? I think it's two. Two boats? Yes. Okay. Well, the property on my street has six boats, three trailers, and a Wnebago. So, where's where's that in this ordinance? The one right next door to you? No, it went on the corner of the new house.
They went on the uh I don't know what the address is, but rather you come in and talk. Okay. Like going to have Mr. McAndrew. Well, he looked at it already and so I don't know what happened with that. But so I I'm waiting for this boat ordinance thing to help me out and you know you give me this paper to come out
with all these pages in here about what you have to do to take care of the abandoned properties and I don't see anything being done about abandoned properties because I can take you for a run around and if you followed the rules and regulations in here, okay, it would take
you six months for each property if you wanted to do a property if you go through all the stages that are in Unfortunately, that's unfortunately that's the way legis legislation works. We have to notify and and notice and go through the steps and give them a timeline for everything. Okay. Well, who
does that? The building department and the zoning officer. Okay. So, Mr. McAdrews, who does a fantastic job, you realize that he works three hours a day, five days a week. That's 15 hours, ladies and gentlemen. And then we
supposedly have another guy who I never met, never saw. And he gets eight hours. So that's 23 hours that the two of these guys are supposed to take care of all of the inspections, checking on the, you know, the contractors, looking into
this, looking into that. When you when you write somebody up, you've got to go to um Tom's River to turn the summons in. If I'm if I'm not wrong, it has to be turned in over there if there's a problem with it with with maybe uh Jim would know that. But how do you if you
read this, how would you expect anything done anything to get done if you didn't make this uh into something that could be worked with a with people only working 23 hours? How do you explain that? So, how are these properties going to be taken care of? Eric, again, they they notice the properties
and it it takes time. I mean, Jim and I were talking about another property in the burrow the other day that has multiple boats and and trucks on it and he's got a stack of paper. It's about an inch thick and it's over almost a year old. He's been working on it. Yeah. But
until you find them, you can't just send letters. And the lady who said the lady who said my boat on the property next to me is registered. She never came down and put the registration on. There's no registration on there. Well, has a copy
of the registration. What good are doing that? So, what what good does that do as far as an ordinance is concerned? I mean, it doesn't do anything. There's no need in this at all. He needs to verify the registration of the of the vehicle. And that's what Don't you think that should be changed? That can't be
changed, sir. No. Let me jump in. Yeah, please. But we can't we can't get any control of that. No, the the reason why the ordinance is read to be registered as it is with motor vehicles is to provide an
objective standard by which the bureau will determine whether it's abandoned or not. Individuals who wish to abandon a vehicle or a boat generally won't annually register it, which requires that it be insured for a motor vehicle. So that's why it's an objective
standard. You have to understand what might be junk to one person isn't to another person. There's individuals who would have a 1956 Ford pickup truck uh that doesn't have wheels on it, but they're in a process of rehabilitating it. Or maybe
they're not. Maybe they just can't get rid of it. They don't want it. They they don't want to part with it. The only objective standard is to require that it be registered. And once it's registered so that it could be driven on the public highways of the state of New Jersey or
registered so as to be able to be able to navigate on the waters of the state of New Jersey, that is the determination of whether it's abandoned or not or ina case of disrepair. But when the guy put the boat there, which I knew him well,
the engine was totally shot and the boat was put there and it's been there for eight years. You know, there's a lot of people that have cars that don't run or run properly or run at all, but if they care, I mean, how many people are going to register and insure a vehicle if it's not going to run or it's not going to be
rehabilitated? Well, this this lady just she just doesn't have it all there and she don't know what she's doing that. Well, see where you're going with that now? What's that? See, so now our code force, Mr. McDaniel, has to determine whether a person is of the right mind.
Um, well, in addition to whether the vehicle is a junk vehicle or not. Well, come you you are you still in the pictures of the boat that you took that day? Yeah. I mean, the wheels are halfway in the ground and we can't do anything about it and I want to sell my property now. Okay. And get out of here
and I have to what I'm going to have to do is myself, okay? I'm going to have to shrink wrap that piece of out there, okay? Just so that the people that want to buy my house don't have to look at it. Now, is that fair to me that I get to pay $300 to shrink wrap a boat
that's not even mine? Well, is it fair to the taxpayers of the burrow tucker that they should be paying a shrink wrap? Well, I'm not saying this lady doesn't want to shrink wrap it. She doesn't want to shrink wrap it. If you want to shrink wrap her, but let me know. Give me your number because I have a boat. I'd like to shrink wrap every
summer. Yeah, but your your boat isn't covered with mold like this one is. That's correct. I mean, we have the pictures to show you. I mean, he agreed with you. He agreed with me 100%. And and I don't mean to be argumentative or contentious about it. I understand your frustration. The problem is is when there's a subjective standard that
determine whether something is good or not or not good, that's when the municipality runs into a precarious situation when it tends to force it. We sure do. We have any other comments even recycling
center in the center of town. I'm sorry. I can't hear you. Can you like the recycling center? So, it would be more out of necessity than anything else. So, our current where it is it's in a flood zone. Um
especially if at the end of this at the end of this summer, um New Jersey pushes forward with their new policies and what's called the Real Act, which is going to raise the flood plane maps by 5T. Then
the public works is really in a flood zone on those new maps. So we have issues with the and Sammy might be able to chime in better, but I know the the pumps that are there are are down under. So they're basically submerged in in
groundwater right now. It's not good for the pumps to be down like that. Eventually, eventually we need to look at moving all that stuff to higher ground to get better longevity. Building up property. They don't let you do that. You can't
build You can't build up on on flood plan. I should quit building my yard. Yes. Well, I think you have to private regulations versus what we have to do as a if it's a water tower or if
it's, you know, the D has to come and check our um gasoline tanks that are down there. All of that is we're held to a higher standard than a private owner. So then what's going to happen to that property? Does it go up for sale or does
it just sit there? I mean, you're not going to be able to build on it because it's Well, the water tower. So, and you're going to make the water tower isn't going to be like really expensive. We would use We would put an addition to
because right now, right now, the way that the water tower is, it's at the lowest point in the burrow of Tucker. So when you guys or you sometimes the pressure is not as good as it should be
and we're going to eventually need another tower that way. But it shouldn't be. But it shouldn't be. Well, I'm used to it now, so you know. But so what what would you do with the property? Would it
just Well, the the water tower would stay. We just have an additional water tower. Not a big water tower like that, just another um plant would be moved up. Yes. I I don't it depending on what kind of funds we use because if you use mitigation
funds from FEMA for moving pro um essential services out of the flood plane, you there is a grant money for that. What happens is is that land then just becomes um like non-existent like
open space type of thing. So it depends. You say open space it won't be sold for people to build like $700,000 houses. No, I don't think that that would be allowed anyway because of the flood plane. Okay. But no, because our water tower has to remain there. Okay. All
right. Thanks. We also have a lease for a cell tower on that property as well. So Okay. Which hopefully Hopefully soon we'll have a cell tower up there, but no, it'll never go as a residential. Okay, thanks.
We've heard from just about everybody out there today. Is there anyone else who has anything to move to close the public? Second. All right, I have a motion and a second to close public forum. All in favor? Any opposed? Motion to Wait a minute. Uh
before we before we adjourn, I have a note here to myself and on behalf of the Rotary Club um Great Bay Rotary, I would like to ask council permission to use that field next door for our flags that
we put up every year until that field is used for other things. So, I'll move that we get permission for second. Have a motion in a second on this request. Thank you very much. All in favor? I All right. Thank you very much.
We will be uh putting up our flag. 100 flags up there. Motion coming soon. Second. Now, motion is to motion to adjurnn with a second. All in favor? I. Thank you very much for coming. Our next
meeting will be May 15th unless we do a special meeting to