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Meeting of the upper township committee was posted on the official township bulletin board. The upper township website, emailed to the Atlantic City Press, the Ocean City Sentinel letter, the Herald Times, and file with the township clerk. Tonight's meeting is being video recorded up until the close session portion of this meeting and will

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be available on the township website. Hereby direct this announcement be made part of the minutes of the meeting. At this time, we're going to stand for the flag salute, but I would like to ask Gabriel Brooks, our Eagle Scout candidate carrying audience, if you'd like to come up and lead us in the flag

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salute. >> You can post up right there and lead us in the flag salute, please. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you sir. Sorry for putting you on the spot but >> and I would like everyone to please remain standing for a moment of silence and reflection. Amen. Thank you.

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>> This time we'll call the role. >> Mr. Cassaceio >> here. >> Mr. Nappen >> here. >> Mr. San Palumbo is absent. Mr. Zack Palumbo >> here. >> Mayor Corson >> present. >> Has everyone had an opportunity to review the minutes from our previous meeting? >> Motion to approve. Second. >> Please call the role.

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>> Mr. Cassaceio, >> yes. >> Mr. Nappen, yes. >> Mr. Palumbo, >> yes. Yes. Mayor Corson. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. >> This time we'll move on to government reports. Uh Sam, would you Sam, please Tyler, would you like to start with us tonight?

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>> Yeah, sure, Mayor. No problem. Um, first I'd like to remind everyone about our Fourth of July celebration coming out uh for America's 250th birthday here on Fourth of July. We got extra money from the county this year to beef up our display and our celebration out there. So, I encourage everyone to come out and

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attend. And I would just like to thank the county. Uh we were out at the ribbon cutting ceremony at the uh Tuahoo Train Station historical site. They uh were very generous with their open space money replacing the cedar shingle roof to preserve the historic nature of the building and give the building a new

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roof for the next 50 years. And that's all I have. Mayor, >> thank Zack. Do you have anything? I do, but I think I want to defer to uh Deputy Mayor Nabin for the exciting news he had this weekend. >> I do. I have a quick story to tell and uh bear bear with me. This is pretty

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cool. So, yesterday was Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. Uh at 8:00 a.m. approximately 8:10 a.m. Upper EMS was dispatched to Seville Upper Township. The report of an imminent child birth. Two ambulances responded from EMS in Petersburg.

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Supervising EMT Jen Tes and Fitz, EMT Angel Anderson, EMT Matt Blaker, EMT Steve Meyers. EMS crew received an update from dispatch. Contractions were two minutes apart, water had broken, and due date was that day. Both ambulances on scene began caring for the mother. The patient was loaded into the

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ambulance. EMS transport to the hospital. Uh at that time, delivery was imminent. However, minutes into the transport, the crew realized that she felt an urgent need to push and EMS uh delivered the baby in the

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ambulance. Um only minutes into the transport, ambulance crew safely pulled over, prepare for delivery, Anderson and Tease and Fitz worked together to coach the mother and to deliver the baby at 8:25 a.m. They successfully delivered a healthy baby boy inside the ambulance following that delivery. Uh imbulcord

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was clamped, uh etc., etc. Lots of medical stuff in here from Chief Britain. Thank you. I'll just say at 9:00 a.m. mother and baby arrived safely to Shore Medical Center and were transferred from EMS uh from the department staff and were both reported

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to do well. And then on a personal note to expand on the story, uh my wife is sitting we're we're having Father's Day barbecue and she gets a text from uh one of my son's friends. Hey, the baby came today. And we were like, oh that's great. And then we started putting two

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and two together and it turned out that that was her. So it was uh one of my son's little sports friends um got a baby brother that day. So shout out to them. We're trying to get uh them all together for like a photo op. But a very very cool uh thing father and a

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testament to the wonderful training that everybody >> Well, we will have a great opportunity for a photo op because I believe we probably will be passing out stor pins to our EMS crew. >> Yes. Yeah. Um, and so this is part of the the email that I wrote them. Um, I said, "In EMS, we're often called during

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some of people's most difficult moments. It's refreshing to be part of one of life's best moments. This crew helped bring a new life into the world on Father's Day, and we could not be more proud of their professionalism and compassion." So, made me proud yesterday. I I I sent that story out to to all the guys, and so pretty cool day.

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That's all I have, Mayor. >> Zach, do you have anything for >> Yeah, mine's not nearly as exciting as that. Um, so, uh, I want to wish all the fathers happy Father's Day and any, uh, positive role models that, you know, affect children's lives, that's always a great thing. So, um, I just want to talk

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about the beach, uh, uh, uh, beach crossovers right now. Uh, Webster is closed. Anything north of Williams is also closed. A reminder to, uh, beach patrons, do not go beyond, uh, Williams North because that's an unguarded beach and we will not be able to rescue you

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should you be in dire straits. So, please stay out of the water there. And honestly, everyone in the public, I think it's we mentioned this multiple times now, please swim in front of the lifeguard, especially as we get closer to uh for deeper into the summer. Um, we

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had a productive meeting with the county and also the skatepark designer for the uh skatepark that's being redesigned at Amanda's Field. I noticed that the we have the uh uh foundation of concrete for the other uh uh for the fitness center that's going that's going to be

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there that's hitting the ground running. And just to Tyler's point to just wish everyone to come out to the uh 250th celebration uh of America at Mansfield and that's about it, mayor. >> Well, thanks Zach and I do want to

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elaborate on uh what Zach said. Williams North is closed. People have been climbing over the rocks. People have been in the water. There's going to be an accident there. There's going to be a tragedy there.

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Please. Closed means closed. There's not much more you can say. It will be open. The beach replenishment is going to start. Beach replenishment is scheduled to are going to start landing pipe on the beach probably about the 5th of July, 6th of July as of right now.

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Sand should be pumping two or three days later. That is subject to change. There will be a th00and foot of beach closed with in the work area. Closed means closed. That means don't go climb over pipes. Don't try to go in the

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dredge basket when you're pumping sand. Don't stand in front of a bulldozer with your blanket because they will become a you'll become a casualty. So, mayor, just, you know, I myself went to the beach yesterday, and honestly, yes, I understand that the beach is much smaller than what we're used to and

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accustomed to, but honestly, if you just work way your way south towards Whale Beach and what have you, there's plenty of room for uh beach patrons to go to. And honestly, yesterday at around 3:00, there was parking available. I I agree with you, but that working your way

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south when you're entitled people and you does not work. >> I'm just saying there's more for there's more beach south than than walk. >> Yes. So there is going a link to our Facebook

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every day on the township website. It is updated what areas are closed. It's going to be during the beach replenishing. It's going to be closed and moving every day. Please our Facebook or our township website under the beach patrol. There is a link to

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follow. If you're confused, it's there. So, that's all I have at this time. Jim, do you have anything for us tonight? >> Well, you guys about rounded up the group. Uh, appreciate the opportunity, Mr. Mayor, members of the committee and the public. uh at Amanda's Field, 250th, 4th of July, Increased Fireworks Show,

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Bounce House, Laser Tag, and uh Celebrate America. Um sat through a number of capital project updates as Zach alluded to. The foundation for the FI uh the fitness studio is laid at Amanda's Field. That will start coming

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up later next month. Um did a pre-esign meeting with the skate park. Uh we looked at uh how this future skate park of Upper Township is going to look. some of the apparatuses and and rides and you know these things. I'm not a skater. Um I don't know the lingo. Radical dude.

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And uh that's coming. Um it's looking really cool. We just concluded a art mural contest uh where we had six submissions from the community. Um the judges selected a winner. His name is uh Bogey. He has a last name. I can't

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>> one more time. >> Aaron Bogashevski. >> That guy. Um very talented artist. uh he submitted won the contest. $5,000 grant from the National Fitness Campaign is going to go to him for winning that art um campaign and his mural will be

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prominently displayed on our uh fitness studio later this summer. And I had EMS baby born on Dad's Day. That's covered. And then beach replenishment moving target as of today. Um we're anticipating sand being pumped onto Strathmere Beach on 9 July. Subject to

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change. Nothing further to add, Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you. >> John, do you have anything for us tonight? >> Nothing right now, Mr. Mayor. >> Joanne, do you have anything for us? >> I have nothing. Thank you. >> Barbara, do you have anything? >> I have nothing as well. >> Wow. We are moving right along.

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Uh, okay. At this time, we will open it up to the public. Is there anyone that would like to make any have any comment on items one through items 22?

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This time items 1 through 22 public commentaring. No public comment on items 1 through 22. We will close the public portion and open it up for my colleagues here. Would you like to make a motion? Somebody. >> Motion to approve.

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>> Second. >> Please call the RO. >> Mr. Cachio. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nappen. Yes, >> Mr. Palumbo. >> Yes, >> Mayor Corson. >> Yes. >> Okay. Next, we have the public hearing for 2011 Willow Liquor LLC DBAN renewal

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of alcohol beverage license for the 2026 2027 license year. >> Okay. At this time, John, I guess we'll >> Yeah. >> Yep. Mr. Mayor, so this was uh one of the liquor license renewals that was applied for. there was an objection put

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in writing and filed um prior to our prior meeting which required us to uh publish and conduct a public hearing this evening. Um we've done so. We're here now. Um if the applicant is present, what I'd recommend doing is is listening here from the applicant first.

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Um if you if the committee's got any comments they'd like to make, you can make them, but I hear from the applicant and then if there's any members of the public that would like to speak, you hear from them as well. Once uh all that is concluded, you weigh the evidence that you heard and you make a determination on the request for renewal. >> Do we after we have the public comment,

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does the applicant get an opportunity to respond? >> They can do that's in your discretion. They can absolutely do so. >> This time, would the applicant like to make a public statement, >> please? >> Please state your name for the record.

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>> Hey everybody, I'm Adam M. I uh I run the Doville. I'm the COO of Blue Dog Hospitality. Um, so my council is not here, but that's okay. Um, I think, you know, our application every year is

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being challenged by the same group of people on the island. And as much as we try to do what's best for the community and to play nice with everyone, there seems to always be some sort of outrage. Um I do understand um being the operator

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of the venue that there is responsibility in maintaining certain things. Um I know the noise levels are concerning and they are things that we we actively work on and we have SOPs in place to try to curb these things. Um

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what you're probably going to hear is talk of how things have changed over the years. Um they really haven't. the noise system, the noise system, the the the AV system that we have there has been the same since year two. Um the things that

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were put in place by the council, uh the committee, I'm sorry, um years back, we still abide by. We still keep decibel reading levels like every day, multiple times a day, um to try to stay on top of that. We have security in place, and I

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know you're going to see pictures where there's times where security is not where they're supposed to be. that would ultimately fall on me. But we do employ a security team of over a dozen um that are on site at all times. We have valet there whenever we need to on peak times

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to try to alleviate parking. Um we try to give back to the community as much as we can. Uh you know, we're we're operating the best we can. We're putting thousands of people through that venue over the weekends. There's a lot of things going on there and I would really wish that some of the local people that

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are pushing so hard back on this could be understanding of that. Um because I'm certainly understanding of how they feel and I do see their perspective having their beautiful shore home and having to listen listen to this music, see the crowds, all of the chaos that goes on.

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Um I understand that. Um I also have a business to run. I have someone to answer to and we tried to do our best. So, um you know that being said, whatever you know you guys decide in terms of you know putting certain stipulations on the

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liquor license, we will obviously abide by that. Um if Donnie was here representing us, she would probably say something the effect of that we do not want anything attached to the ABC side of that. I think that everything should be handled within the township as it has

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been. Um, and we'll keep doing our best to uh to abide by that. >> Is your legal counsel in route or not? >> She hasn't texted me back. I apologize. No. >> Does anybody have any questions? >> Not yet. >> Do you?

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>> Uh, no. I nothing at this point. What what I'd suggest doing, Mr. May? If there's nothing else from the applicant, we open it up to the public. Anyone that likes to say anything could come up >> at this time. We'll open it up to the public. If anybody in the public would like to comment, please come forward. State your name, address, and objections.

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>> Good evening. My name is Oh, good evening, mayor and committee members. My name is Dodie and I live in Strathmir. I want to be clear at the outset that I'm not asking for the Doveell to be closed. The bar and restaurant have operated for over a century. My objection is about

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how the current operation is being managed and whether the lency is meeting its obligations to the surrounding community in combined with alcohol beverage control requirements and other state and local regulations. Over the past several years, the

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committee has repeatedly heard the same core complaints. Excessive noise, alcohol leaving the premises, and recurring enforcement issues. The fact that residents are back again with the same concerns is itself evidence that

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the current framework is not working. On top of that, Willard in the surrounding streets are routinely congested on busy nights and weekends with doval traffic, private jitneys, Ubers using residential streets as their loading zone in

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long-term parking areas. And we regularly see we regularly see cars partially or fully blocking driveways and parked in post at no parking areas while patrons come and go. Neighbors have called parking enforcement in the state police when

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access is blocked, but tickets and toes occur rarely and the same conditions return the next weekend. That pattern shows that the current planning board conditions and seasonal enforcement have not been enough to manage the volume generated by this particular operation.

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In the 2022 2023 renewal license and again in 2023 2024 renewal license, the township did recognize these problems and impose special conditions on the license. Those conditions did two key things. They required compliance with

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the planning board resolution PB062021. And they required a security guard at all entrances to the licensed premises, including the beach entrance, where alcohol was being served between Memorial Day and Labor Day. In 2024, those conditions were quietly

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dropped, not because the problems had gone away, but because no one happened to file a formal objection that year. There was no evidence. the noise, the open containers, or the operational issues had ever been resolved. Last year, the township put back a single

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condition, the guard requirement, and pointed to it as proof that the renewal was reasonable. What actually happened the first season under the one condition tells a very different story. From June to Labor Day 2025, I documented multiple dates when

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the required guard being posted at the sandboard ramp and beach entry were simply unmanned while alcohol was being served. On other dates, guards were present, but patrons still walked off with open rum buckets and canned cocktails, the same type of containers

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the Doval advertises in its own marketing materials. I submitted those timestamp photos in a summary table to the township clerk in the division of alcohol beverage control as part of my objection and I have a s small subset of those images printed tonight if the

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committee would like to see them. Would the committee like to see them or have you already seen them? >> Absolutely. >> That's Have you seen the photographs that were previously submitted? >> I have provided. >> Yes. Okay. Thank you. When residents raised these complaint

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compliance issues last year, the township administrator uh submitted a written response confirming that what we many of us have already um suspected. The township has no practical way to monitor these conditions in real time. Code enforcement can conduct inspections, but

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if the guard is back on post when they arrive, there could be no documentation of a violation. Residents were advised that enforcement depends largely on the state police and ABC to observe a violation as they occur and that neighbors should report the these

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sightings to the dispatch center when problems arise. The result is that many of these conditions are difficult to verify and enforce in practice. If compliance cannot be readily documented, the burden then shifts to residents to report violations rather than to the

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license holder to demonstrate their own compliance. That's why any renewal conditions should include simple verification measures such as staffing logs. They can tie it back to their ADP records, incident logs, and documented security coverage

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so that comp compliance can be confirmed objectively rather than relying on a chance observation. Earlier today, I also emailed the mayor and the clerk a short video recorded this past Saturday at 7:47 p.m. from

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inside my front door, capturing music from a private event at the Dove Bell. The recording provides direct contemporaneous evidence of the volume and clarity of the DJ music as it is experienced inside a residential home. In connection with that video, I'm also

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going to provide to the committee members a map tonight. This is a Google image map showing the point of the recording and the source of the music. It's approximately 314 ft. If I'm able,

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>> you can give it to our municipal park. Taken together, the music and the distance measurement provides a clear objective reference for evaluating the real world impact of the operation and proximity to neighbors. May I ask if the mayor or the clerk have

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viewed the video and if the other committee members have viewed the video? >> No, I haven't. >> Okay. >> I couldn't download it because I viewed it. >> Okay. Well, I happen to have it on my phone, so I'm gonna just play it here and to the microphone. >> Question for you.

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>> Can we pause that for a second? Just just so I can you did you take this video that you're >> My husband took the video. >> Were you Were you present? >> I was not present. >> Is he here? >> He is here. >> I if he when it my preference would be for authentication purposes if you can

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authenticate this sir when you come up to speak. But otherwise it's objectionable as an evidentiary issue. If he does not >> Are you going to do you plan to present next? Are you are you going to stand to object?

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>> Will you will you stand up? >> Will you stand up and verify the video? What is that? >> That's >> Please come up to the mic. >> So sir, if you can I know that your wife is just getting ready to play a video. Did you know the video consists of?

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>> Yes, I do. I took I took the video. >> Okay. When did when when did you take the video? >> Uh, it was Friday evening. >> Okay. Where was it taken from? >> It was from inside my house. >> Okay. And And the address of your home? >> 21 Winthrup Avenue. >> And how far is that approximately from the Doville property?

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>> 300 ft. >> Okay. 14 ft. >> Thank you. You can proceed. music. Just for context in the video that was taken inside the house. >> Inside the house >> was the door and the windows open or was it shot? >> We opened the door and stood and stood

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back about he stood about six feet back from our doorway so you could see the doorway and then he panned and showed our living room. Okay. >> So, I respectfully request that both the video and the supporting Google image map be included for the record. >> Now, the township has already studied

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this operation in detail. In 2021, after multiple hearings and an extensive resident testimony, the planning board adopted resolution planning board 062021, which authorized an expanded and highly intensified use of the DOVAL that

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included large outdoor service areas, events, and increased patron capacity, but only with specific operational safeguards. Those safeguards included valet, traffic management, limits on amplified sound and live music,

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restricted restrictions on septic pumping hours, and clear expectations for on-site security and crowd control. Today, those same conditions still exist in the planning board resolution, but they are not fully carried forward or consistently embedded in the liquor

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license, and there's no practical system in place to routinely verify compliance in real time. As a result, the safeguards that were intended to balance the expanded operations with neighborhood impacts are difficult to enforce on the ground, even though the

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operations intensity remains the same. So, what am I actually asking you to do tonight? First, if you're inclined to renew the license, please do so only with a full set of enforceable conditions, not just a single guard requirement. They should include

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security personnel stationed at all public access points, including the beach entrance during the hours during every hour alcohol is available for purchase between Memorial Day and Labor Day. a clearly defined license area on the

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beach using a simple post or rope post and rope or similar barrier so patrons, security staff, and law enforcement all know exactly where alcohol is allowed and where alcohol is not allowed. The Doval already uses this type of barrier

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around some of its beach seating areas, so extending it or erecting a new one at the beach entry point should not be a burden to the Doval. basic documentation staffing logs that show which guards were assigned to which post and when. Incident logs that record when patrons

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are stopped from leaving with open containers or removed for non-compliance. These simple tools that protect the public and the lency create an objective record. Incorporating the key operational

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requirements of planning board 06 2021 directly back into the license. the valet plan, the noise and music limits, the septic operation curfews, so that non-compliance with those conditions can be addressed through the licensing process, not just

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through zoning violations that may never be written. Second, I ask you to confront honestly where the most serious problems are happening. They're occurring at the outdoor sandbar and beach bar. That's where the crowd are, the crowds are the densest, where the

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noise and the base travel across multiple Strathmere blocks and where alcohol has been documented walking into the state park or onto public streets. It's also where the D has already issued an enforcement order about the one-story bayfront bar structure in its seating

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area. The D has already found serious environmental violations at the beach bar portion of this property, including a six-f figureure penalty in an order for them to cease all use of the outdoor beach bar and its seating area until

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wastewater approvals are fixed. Yet, this bar and seating area continue to operate. The DP's own records show multiple notices of violations and still impending status for failure to follow permit requirements and to stop

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discharge when told to do so. Plus, there was a separate Tideland's lean for operating the docks on stateowned waterways without required authorization. These are major unresolved violations at the same outdoor sandbar area that is causing the

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greatest noise, the greatest crowd, and the greatest alcohol control impacts to our community. I would like to submit to the committee a printout from today. This is a list of enforcement actions that are still pending with the D, all unresolved.

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>> So, I guess the only question is how does that relate to the liquor license? If you could just provide some clarity, right? These are outside agencies that aren't the ABC aren't ABC related. We're only here talking about the liquor license. >> That's a great question. Um, ABC license

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requirements require a lency to be in compliance with all laws, local, state laws. They're in non-compliance. This particular beach bar area is the area with most of the problems and they've had a notice of in order to shut down operations that's been in place for two

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years that has been ignored. I am aware that Upper Township has been copied on this notice. So the township is also aware and I've also provided this document to the township in prior years. So given this the history of non-compliance

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um the past history from 2025, I believe it's entirely reasonable to consider modifying the license so that alcohol sales and service at at the outdoor sandbar beach bar area either be suspended completely or made contingent upon the lency first demonstrating to

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the DP, the ABC and to this township that the area is fully compliant with environmental approval. and the real verbiable controls on alcohol noise cap and capacity uh in that place. The restaurant and indoor

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bar can continue to operate but the high highest impact lease control part of the operation should not simply be rolled over year-over-year with a license approval. Residents should not have to spend every summer acting as unpaid compliance monitors. The burden belongs

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to the lee and the way to put it there is through clear conditions and simple verification tools that you can actually enforce. It's for all these reasons that I respectfully request that you deny the renewal of the license unless and until

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meaningful and enforcable actions and conditions can be adopted, including the full implementation of planning board resolution PB6- 2021, verified security controls and recordkeeping, clear physical boundaries, and appropriate limits or

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modifications to the Sandbar area, as well as compliance with state and local ordinances and laws. Thank you for your time and your attention and thank you for looking out for the health, safety, and welfare of Strathmir. >> Thank you. Before the next person comes up, I have a couple questions for our

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municipal attorney. Um the 2021 municipal planning board approval? >> Yes. >> Does this license supersede that? >> No. They're they're still >> they're still governed by that approval. >> Yes. >> And they have to follow that planning board approval. Correct. Yes, that's

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that's accurate. >> I just wanted a clarification because it's it's talked about like our license makes that approval disappear. It doesn't. >> That approval is still in place 2021 >> and all the conditions within it. >> Okay. Thank you. This time, would

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anybody else like to comment on the liquor license application? Good evening, mayor and committee members. I'm Mark also from Strathmir. I agree with and appreciate all that Dod's put together in terms of reporting

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what's happened over the years. Uh I stood before you as did many of the others in the room last year when this issue was raised. Our request at the time was that the planning board resolution 062021 be attached to the liquor license

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renewal as it had been in prior years. And what the committee decided to do at that time was take just one aspect of it which was to post a security person at the access points to the the do. The reason given was that the township had

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the ability to evaluate and enforce the requirements of that planning board resolution and they didn't need to be attached to the liquor license. However, I have two issues with it. The first is that the elements that were not attached

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to the license are not being complied to on a consistent basis, mostly noise, and the township has not had the resources to evaluate and enforce that. It's a problem. The second is the single condition that you added to the license which is that guards would be posted has

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not been complied with on a consistent basis and Dodie provided photographic evidence time and date stamped of that. It's a huge concern. It's um it's only a question of time until someone who leaves the Doville property with open

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alcohol container goes to the point and there's a boating or jet ski accident where someone could be seriously injured. This is a concern for everyone of course and I can only wonder what the liability issues are for the Doville and

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also for the township. I would imagine because you have a requirement in place but it's not being enforced because of all this. It's clear that the township would benefit from the enforcement options that the ABC can provide. And as

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a result of that, my request is that all the conditions of planning board resolution 062021 get reattached to the license, the liquor license, so that you as township officials have that extra uh enforcement

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option that is the ABC to ensure that the things that you have required are followed on a consistent basis. And I hadn't heard this before, but I also appreciate Dod's requests that the

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Doville keep logs that are uh that can be verified by the township. So it also protects the Doville in doing that if they have a log of who provided when. It it protects them from some allegations of negligence letting people leave. So

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my specific requests are please add back PE um the obligation to comply with planning board resolution 062021 require the Doville have documented logs about comingings

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and goings of people with alcohol and the security personnel station there and that the township utilize the ABC if necessary to gain enforcement of these issues when you don't have the resources

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to do it. So, thank you for listening to me and thank you for all that you do for Strathmeir in the community. >> Did you have the last name? >> Sir, your last name. >> I'm sorry. I didn't get your last >> Thank you.

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>> Is there anyone else who would like to comment on Yes, sir. Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of the township committee. My name's Frank. I'm in Strathmir. Um, and before I get into what I wanted to >> Frank, they're going to ask you for your last name, so we might as well get it out of the way now.

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>> I think I know it and last name. Is it Cini? >> You got it. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Yep. Um, yeah. Before I get into what I wanted to talk about, I wanted to address uh one of the comments that Mr. Mer made about being a good neighbor and supporting our community.

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Part of the reason we're here that has escalated to this committee is several years ago when these things started we went to them directly as a good neighbor saying hey you think you could turn the volume down a little bit the response

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right was to publish my name >> my wife's name and our home address on the doll's website stirred up a lot of anti- neighbor sentiment and Mr. moder gave it a thumbs up. Guess what happened? People came to my house. People screamed at my wife. People threw

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things on my lawn. People backed their cars up to my driveway and cranked up the radio. These aren't the actions of a good neighbor. They're the actions of a coward and a bully. So, I wanted to make sure that was here for the record. And I believe, Mr. Mayor, it was you who

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ultimately got them to take that post down. Is that correct? it >> I don't recall to be honest with you. >> It was okay. My apologies. I thought >> this is the first I heard about that. >> Well, yeah, it happened and it's

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documented. So, I just wanted to to address that. >> Um, so again, this is not about being against the Doveellian as a business. It has nothing to do with the history of the establishment or how things operated under prior owners. It's not about

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hearing noise and music. It would be foolish and unreasonable to expect to hear nothing at all. It's all about the here and now and how operations have changed under the current ownership. It's about protecting the surrounding community and making sure that a large

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licensed establishment operating in a small residential shore community is held to clear and enforceable standards. The prior special conditions existed for a reason. conditions dealing with security, open containers, noise,

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outdoor entertainment, parking, crowd control, and compliance with approved site plans are not technicalities. They are the practical rules that protect residents, pedestrians, families, neighboring properties, and public spaces. They help prevent alcohol

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from leaving the premises. They help prevent excessively loud noise and music from spilling into the neighborhood. They help reduce parking conflicts and traffic safety issues. And they give the township law enforcement and residents a clear standard to point to when problems

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occur. Without those conditions attached to the liquor license, enforcement becomes weaker and more fragmented. Residents are told to call the township, the county, the police, a code enforcement official, or someone else depending on the issue. But the liquor

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license is the most direct tool the township has to regulate alcohol-related impacts. If the conditions are only treated as separate zoning or site plan issues, then the public loses an important layer of protection. I also think the timing matters. In

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2023, the Dobel's liquor license was suspended by the New Jersey Division of Alcohol Beverage Control. These weren't technicalities or paperwork errors. There were multiple liquor law violations resulting in the interruption of liquor sales in their entirety for

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several days. This is a significant sanction under ABC's penalty schedule. Then in 2024, just a few months after the license was suspended, the township voted to renew the license, but to also remove those special conditions that had been in

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place for multiple years. That's hard to understand, especially just a few months after the ABC liquor license suspension had been enacted. In 2025, the township recognized at least one continuing concern by adding back the security condition requiring

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train guards at all entrances during alcohol service between Memorial Day and Labor Day. That's a great step in the right direction, but it's not enough. The community needs the full set of meaningful prior conditions restored, not just one piece. Right. And to be

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clear, special conditions aren't a punishment. They're accountability. They're a reasonable way to allow the business to operate while protecting the people who live near it and the public areas around it. A responsible lency should have no objection to clear rules

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that prevent open container violations, reduce noise impacts, manage crowds, address parking and traffic issues, and require compliance with approved plans. I respectfully ask the committee to renew the license only if the special conditions previously removed are

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reinstated as conditions of renewal. At a minimum, those should include security at all entrances, prevention of open containers, leaving the license premises, enforcable limits on outdoor music and amplified sound during hours of operation, compliance with all site

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plan and parking requirements, and any other prior conditions that were removed in 2024. The township's responsibility is not only to renew licenses. It is also to protect the safety, health, welfare, and quality of life of the community. Reinstating these special conditions is

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a reasonable and necessary way to do that. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the application? Good evening, mayor and committee members. I'll get closer.

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>> You can move the mic as you need to. >> Okay. My name is Victoria Green and I live in Strathmir and I have some predictions of my own to make that after the community finishes with their comments

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that Doville representatives will once again say these people they just won't be satisfied until the Doville is no longer in business. They're a bunch of whiners. They can't stand hearing a little bit of music.

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Same old story. We do have better things to do than to come here on week nights. It would be nice to be at home having a nice meal. At least tonight we could have it without the boop boop boop boop boop in our heads where we've had many

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meals with that going on. We've had to leave our house and we go and we walk down to the beach. We're at the corner of Sea View and and Neptune and we still hear it just carries all the way down to the

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water. So, I respectfully request that these enforceable protections established in the PBO6 2021 be placed back on

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the liquor license requirements. There is no enforcement. We have no help. Oh, we're a good neighbor. We try our best. We do all these things. They'll never be satisfied. We're not seeing the trying.

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I've called many times. In the beginning, we only directly dealt with the personnel at the Doville to try to get these resolved. It was like we were being told to go, you can fill in the blank. So, we're

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asking for help here, and it doesn't have to come from you. It can come from the ABC. So, I agree with everything that the previous people who've spoken have said, and it would be very helpful if there was a way that we could have some help

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dealing with this woefully out of balance business to residential area. There there there is no balance. They've won. and we're just asking for a little bit of relief. Thank you.

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>> Good evening. I'm Mark Baitman, a Strata resident. Uh I want to just emphasize what everybody else has said. The reality is the noise is unbelievable. You can't on a summer afternoon walk around the neighborhoods without hearing

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the noise and the music and then in the evening the traffic is beyond belief. Uh the private jies that come and park in the no parking area right across from the firehouse. There seems to be no enforcement of any

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of the regulations of any of the stipulations that were put onto the doville before. So again, I would just urge that in order to get some more reinforcement and some more leverage, having these conditions put on the license gives the opportunity to have

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the ABC provide a little additional enforcement because it's clearly not coming from the township. >> Well, the ABC is not going to control parking. >> They're going to control whatever valet issues are part of the stipulation that were attached to the license renewal.

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>> Yes. You're not going to the titties not being valet park though. >> Fair enough. Is there anyone else? >> Amy Lombardo 90 West Willard. And I do support the renewing of the license but only if the enforcable conditions match

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uh the PB06 2021. But I am in support of the license. We just got to bring it all together. >> Thank you. >> Is there anyone else who would like to comment on the application for the hearing

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>> before we the applicant certainly responsible at this point? >> I Yeah, if you have questions or you got >> I just want to make a statement because I don't know if everybody's aware of this in the audience. The New Jersey State Police have been working with the

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township and they have been present in Strathmir almost daily from 11 in the morning to 11 at night. I think there was a little bit of a lapse in shift this weekend because they were had more resources in the wildwoods because of what was going on in the

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wildwoods and there was more important but for the most part there has been a New Jersey state policeman and I think everyone in here can verify that that there's been a big presence. So >> I can verify that because they pulled

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someone over by the trailer park on the way out yesterday. >> They pulled someone over today. >> Yeah. They arrested somebody who thought it was appropriate to drive up the beach path and try to get on to Compsson so the DUI. So the police have made a huge

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presence. And if somebody is illegally parking in front of driveways blocking or stuff like that, this is not the pre that there's a non-emergent number for the state police. You I have it on my phone if anybody would like it. They are there from 11 to 11 for the most part.

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So I'll turn it back over to the lency just to >> Now the applicant would you like to respond? >> Good evening, mayor, members of the committee. I apologize for being late. I didn't realize your meetings moved along quite as quickly as they do. Um

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these these concerns of the neighbors are heard by my clients. my clients can do just so much about them with an operating commercial establishment in this location. And what they can do, they have done.

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Um, I can bring Mr. Moder up. I've got a copy of the planning board resolution to which many of the prior witnesses have testified and it does have a list of conditions. Um, my clients are mindful of those

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conditions. They keep this list handy and they have operating procedures in place and monitoring mechanisms in place to deal with each of the conditions. The conditions are still on the books. They are still enforcable. The township

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still has the ability to issue a notice of violation if there's a violation of a site plan condition. Um I leave it to the committee to determine why that hasn't been done. Perhaps there there hasn't been an observed violation.

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Um, from the very beginning, my clients have had a standard operating procedure with valet with respect to their valet parking. It is still in effect. It is still being utilized. It was approved by the planning board when the last site

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plan approval was was granted. I did receive um the video earlier today um that the Cortinis submitted through through the clerk's office. I note that

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the timing of the video did not put the noise in violation of your noise ordinance, which I believe is in chapter 17 and 317 and addresses loud noises emanating from

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commercial establishments between the hours of 1000 p.m. and 8 a.m. Um, obviously they're on the water. depending on which way the wind's blowing. Sometimes the noise is louder

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than they would like. They do have decibel sound limiters on their equipment and they have that suggestion was made I believe by the neighbors or their council at the time of the site plan approval. It is still on

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their equipment. They keep logs of the decibel levels and those can be produced if the committee is interested in seeing them. With respect to the adjacent public beach, I don't know if the committee members

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have seen pictures of the signage. I can show you. I believe um my client has taken a picture of the signage, but it may have been recently um revised.

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But here's the signage as it existed as of June 10 12th. Let me bring it up. Hand it to our mic, please. That signage is intended to notify the patrons that they cannot leave with an open container. In addition to that, my

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client has a train a person sitting at the property line advising them that they cannot leave with an open container. My client can't do a lot more than that. They can't confront someone physically. They can't touch them. They can't tackle them. All they can do is

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advise them that they can't leave the property. And that's all that the law requires in my opinion. Are there moments when someone is not there? It could be a shift change, something like that. But my clients have a rational,

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reasonable, well- enforced procedure in place to keep folks from leaving the property with an open container, which I believe fulfills their obligation under the law. There was a suggestion that

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some sort of a barrier be erected. So that was very clear to the customers or the patrons where the property line is and where they should not cross with an open container or with an alcoholic beverage. We looked into that. We talked

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to our uh D consultants and they advised that such a such a a fence or a rope would need a caffer permit or permit by certification and must be associated with an atgrade dune walkover project.

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and would not be permitted if it was to delineate a property line and it also can't be located waterward of the of a dune. So that is not something that we can we can do. We are trying to work with the D. Neighbors brought up our D situation. We have

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numerous numerous pending applications for the DP to address the septic, to address the Sandhouse um location and use, and to address the

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Tideland's license for the docks. Those approvals are all interconnected and they're all in different areas of the D and they're all proceeding through the approval process. At such time as they are all approved, we'll be back

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before your planning board to get amended site plan approval because the installation of the new septic system will require some rearranging on the site and some possibly removal of a building. A lot of changes. So that will

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be back before your planning board and that will be done at great expense to the owner. But he understands that in an environmentally sensitive barrier island, this is what has to be done to comply with D regulations. Um there was mention made of a

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suspension in 2023 an ABC suspension. There was a suspension, but it was paperwork violations. It was a failure to have certain records on site. Um, the liquor license was not full was

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posted was not fully visible. It was too far down on the wall and there was something in front of it. There were tech, it wasn't serving minors or permitting people to walk off the property knowingly with open containers. It wasn't the typical like ABC violation

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that I think would be more concerning. Obviously, my clients want to be in full compliance, but these paperwork uh violations have been corrected. They served their suspension and the ABC was content with that result. I would like

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to call Mr. Maf just so that he can verify to the committee some of the representations that I made which of which he had uh apprised me. So Adam Mutter, what what is your position at the Doville?

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>> I'm the COO of the hospitality group. >> Okay. >> So are you we think of you as a general manager? >> I'm the GM. Yes. >> Okay. Do you maintain a log of the times and the dates on which the septic is pumped? >> We do. Do you maintain a log with

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respect to the decel levels? >> We do. >> Do you still have a limiter on your musical uh equipment? >> Yes, we do. >> Do you have an SOP? Are you still using the SOP for valet parking? >> We do.

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>> If you had to recreate records for who the security guards were posted, you could do that from payroll records. Is that correct? >> Yeah. Schedule. >> Um, you recently upgraded the signage. Yes. >> Is that right? And where is that located? >> In the same location, just much bigger.

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>> And the purpose of that is to notify the patrons when they're leaving the property and they can't take open containers. >> Yeah. As if that sign wasn't large enough, we just made it bigger. >> And the do the people who are posted there, I'll call them security guards obviously. Um are they trained on what

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to do and what to say to folks who are, >> you know, headed off your property with cups in their hands? How does that work >> at the especially at that post we call the North Beach? They're specifically trained to acknowledge every person walking that way that has an open container, making some sort of hand

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gesture, something in a motion so that when a picture is taken, we know that they're doing their job. >> And do they also verbally address these folks? >> They always say something to them, but they cannot stop them physically. Okay. >> But when you say they say something to

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them, it's not good afternoon. What do they say to them? Uh, well, they're passing the sign. So, sir, ma'am, sorry, you're not allowed to take that open alcohol that however they say it, right? Off of the property. Okay. >> Um, can you confirm for the committee

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that you've got many D uh approvals pending and that you've got an environment and um, >> Vincando's office working on the various permits that you need to comply with? And has the D suggested that the Doville

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should shut down and not continue to operate? >> No, not at all. >> They're aware that you're operating because they're there on a fairly regular basis. >> Yeah, we've had many meetings with D people. Um it's been an ongoing thing for years at this point. Those things move very slowly. um particularly on the

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septic front um which was kind of kicked into motion from anonymous complaints um from the neighbors I would assume. Um that will end up costing my owner somewhere north

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of a million dollars to fix. Um are is you're you're aware of the 20some conditions to the site plan approval that was granted in 20 I think

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20 2016 was it? >> 2021. >> 2021. Thank you. You're aware of that? >> Um and to the best of your knowledge, are you continuing to to comply with all 26

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conditions. >> Yeah, as I stated earlier to the committee, I mean, we we really haven't changed our operations from that initial um resolution. >> So, you're still complying with this? >> Yeah, we are.

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>> I think that's all I need in Mr. Roman to confirm. And I would just add to that committee. It seems that the neighbors are not objecting to renewal. They just want renewal with conditions which are

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already in place. I don't see the purpose of bringing into another regulatory agency into the work that the committee and its departments do. Um the testimony from

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the owner is that they are they have standard operating procedures in place to comply with the planning board conditions. They understand their obligation and they're fulfilling it to the best of their ability. If the committee has any questions, Mr. M is

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here to give you firsthand. >> I actually have a few questions for you if you don't mind answering them. >> Yep. All right. So, just question the the person, for lack of a better word, the security guard that is standing by the sign, does he have the Doville uniform on?

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>> Yes. >> So, and there's camera that's on on the the security guard at all time. >> We have a camera on that side. Okay. property. Yes. Does the is there a trash can by the sign, you know, to entice people to throw out their garbage as they go out and so that way they're

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like, "Hey, we're not just I need you to either dump it or, you know, go back to the go back to the Dville property or what have you." >> Correct. >> Okay. And then again, I apologize, but I'm I'm assuming that everyone your security guards are tips trained or

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whatever they EBC recommendation is that like before they go walking out that you can identify someone's inebriated and what have you. for sure. Yet there was a class in Atlantic City two weeks ago and they all attended. >> Tyler, do you have any?

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>> No, I think both sides have been very thorough. >> Um, >> anything the only thing Mr. Mr. Mayor, I'd just add and this is I think it's beneficial to everyone because there was discussion related to noise and I know there was a from a lot of the public comment there was a um concern about the

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amount of noise and then I know from the applicant they referenced the particular restriction related to commercial establishments. We do have a per se violation for commercial establishments between those hours 10 p.m. and 8 a.m. But unnecessary unreasonable noise can occur at any time. Right. So that that's

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discretionary. They're not one and the same. So that it should be considered that way. So it's, you know, I know in this scenario we're talking about a commercial establishment, but you can have unreasonable noise at 4 in the afternoon, right? It can be present. So, so kind of just make sure you try to

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differentiate those two things. >> Yes. >> I don't have any questions at this point, but I do have a question for our legal counsel. Um there was reference to 23 the license was renewed with the conditions 24 it was not

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>> right >> 25 it was partial >> right >> what is the if we reference the planning board >> resolution >> resolution from 2021 is what is the

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downside of that >> there well I downside I don't know you'd call it a downside what it does is that Instead of just having the township and your code enforcement officials as the enforcement mechanism related to alleged violations, if you tie it to the

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license, you could have the ABC as an enforcing agent as well. >> Would that I I don't know the answer to that. >> The ABC handbook does specific specifically say that condition should not be used for zoning issues.

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>> So the own ABC handbook recommends we don't do that. >> Correct. Okay. For zoning related issues, >> I actually have another question. >> Adam, just real quick, you don't have to go up to the podium. Your like containers or whatever, does it say Doville in on it or they just clear

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containers or anything like that? Generally speaking, >> yes. >> Okay. Hold on. Miss 14. Hold on. So, typically the public hearings are the applicant followed by public comment followed by

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closing from the applicant. You have the discretion to change that. But >> yeah, one time >> please come to the microphone. State your name again for the record. This is limited. So, >> hi, it's Dodie Cortini. Just for clarification, Mr. across and said the

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only thing we were seeking um was to put conditions back on the license. But for clarity, because of the lack of enforcement, I specifically said that I was seeking either and and she also pointed out that there seems to be very limited ability to control prohibiting

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people from exiting the premise at the beach bar with open containers. I don't think that um I I believe that they're not prohibited from calling the police themselves, but be given the history of how difficult it is for them to manage that area and given the history that

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there are compliance issues for that area, I think it's well within the reason to um perhaps limit the license to suspend that area of the beach bar operations until the Doval figures out compliance and security measures to keep alcohol from exiting their licensed

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premises. >> Okay. You said that earlier. Thank you, >> Mayor. The only thing I'd say is the the lency should be able to close with any response if they want to. >> Yes. Would you like to respond? >> With all due respect to the committee, I

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don't know that you have the authority to narrow the scope of the licensed area. >> Oh, that was going to be my question to our attorney. >> Okay. I'll I'll defer to Tom. >> Okay. >> I would agree with her on that. >> Okay. So, the answer is we can't not license a

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port. >> You can't pick and choose which area of this premise you're going to allow >> either the whole property or none of the property. >> Okay. Is there any other comments? >> Okay. At this time, we'll close the public portion. Thank you everyone. Um

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John, what's >> So, at this point, Mr. M you heard from the applicant and their council. You've heard from members of the public. You know, I think you understand the concerns. Um what we have pending is a request for renewal of the license. As we've already gone over last year when

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this was renewed, there was one special condition on that license, namely related to um maintaining security guards at all entrance to the license premise. Um you have the option to renew it again with the same condition, renew it with additional special conditions, renew it with no conditions. It's uh you

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you you've heard the testimony of the public. It's now your decision to make. My recommendation is uh deliberation amongst each other and then and conducting a vote. If anyone does have a conflict though, I would obviously aware of it before deliberations begin.

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>> I'll be abstaining. >> Okay. >> What are we thinking? I I personally think with the increased state police presence this year, um you guys are going to be under even more of a microscope

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and I expect the neighbors to use the state police to their advantage this summer. And I uh also believe I personally last Saturday was on the beach at Corson State Inlet Park on the

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north side there and I watched probably about a hundred people go over to the Doville and I watched fairly closely. I saw no one with open containers leaving the property. That was one side of the beach that I was on all day. There was

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monitoring with my kids, but I could just attest to last weekend. I was there, did not see any violations as far as alcohol leaving the property in open containers. Um, the video that was submitted today,

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I did personally find that noise to be unreasonable even within the time slot uh prior to 10:00. That will be up to the state police. We created the noise ordinance to be able to enforce this issue if it is out of

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control during the day. Um I think with the improved noise ordinance, the improved police presence, uh I believe we should be okay moving forward. >> Yeah, I just want to echo I mean we spent quite a bit of time going over the

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noise ordinance. I think we had what three drafts over it on top of that and in addition to all these condition like and outside of that I mean that was a bigger sticking point honestly and it wasn't just the Doville related we had people from the mainland actually bringing up points here as well that's

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why we have the noise ordinance in place and honestly we have the tools of using the state troopers as as the the enforcement for that and >> I agree with you that fact that I honestly with an elevated presence what we haven't had before. We probably

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should just keep it as is >> as what we had from last year. >> You think we should should give the state police an opportunity to do their job and in past years they haven't near the presence that they're going to have this year. Um having a trooper there 12 hours a day, seven days a week

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is going to make a big difference in my opinion. I also was at Duville the other evening for the Strathmare Improvement Association 75th anniversary and had the pleasure of giving them the resolution. But I did notice and happened to know

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one of the security personnel at the exit. So I think they're trying. Is there room for improvement? There's almost room for improvement in everything. Even our jobs there's room for improvement. Um, I know that because

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not everybody's perfect. It's not I do think the state police are going to make a difference this year and uh I hope you heard. So,

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>> okay. >> Just need a motion for >> we have to follow our clerk's advice with the conditions. I mean, we obviously have the condition about the somebody at the entrance. I don't think that's an unrealistic condition.

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We are still governed by the ordinance from 2021 or the resolution from the planning board. That's still in place. That's still enforceable. And obviously, I think they're going to be back by their own admission. They're going to be back in front of the

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planning board. So there may be more restrictions put on by the planning board. >> I'd like to make a motion to renew the liquor license with the same cons conditions as 2025. >> Second. >> Please call the role. >> Mr. Paceio, >> yes. >> Mr. Nefen, >> abstain.

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>> Mr. Palumbo? >> Yes. >> Mayor Corson? >> Yes. >> Motion carried. >> Thank you. >> We have uh resolution number 24. 25 25 >> 24 was just done. >> Okay. Resolution number 25.

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>> 25 authorized payments from the affordable housing trust fund of upper township. >> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Mr. Casaceio. >> Yes. >> Mr. Nappen. >> Yes. Mr. >> Z or yeah, Mr. Zo. >> Yes. >> Mayor Corson. >> Yes. >> Motion carried. >> Pleasure on the bills. Gentlemen,

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>> I hereby move all claims submitted for payment at this meeting be approved and then incorporated in full in the minutes of this meeting. >> Second. >> Mr. Cassaceio. >> I have two abstains on the bills. 26-00245 26-00246. I'm a yes on all the rest.

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>> Mr. Palumbo, >> yes. >> Mayor Corson, >> yes. >> Motion carried. >> This time we'll open it up to the public. Is there anybody would like to address the tent committee on any subject? >> I think we have an Eagle Scout kind of. >> Uh, good evening. I'm Dr. committee and

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Mayor Corson. Uh so many of you may not know who I am. My name is Gabriel Brooks. I am an Eagle Scout candidate with Trip 79 of Upper Township. Some of you may know my family members like um Jacob Brooks, my grandfather who is the chief medical officer of Ocean City. Uh

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yeah, chief medical officer of Ocean City until 2021. My parents Joanne and Ryan Brooks who served in the healthcare capacities. Um, Ryan worked as Ryan worked at most multiple hospitals in the area working in both the emergency rooms

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and intensive care units as an RN uh or registered nurse. Um, Joan served both Atlantic City and Kate May counties as an EMT. Uh, I remember watching most notably as she helped someone provide the Heimlick maneuver at to a patron at

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the 4 fair while conducting or while acting in a the capacity of a scout leader saving a woman's life. I'm now trying to forge my way into the community and where I am surrounded by giants. And although helpful, although

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helpful having family members who have given so selflessly to the community, it sometimes is scary to know uh what expectations are of me. Um I have been working tirelessly on my Eagle Scout project at the historic Civo Methodist

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Church. Uh it was once a small project is fixing a gazebo and a waterfront area. Um, as titled in my proposal, it however has or took on its own life, my life. Um, as previously stated, it is going to be uh

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gazebo reservations and decorative lights under the bridge and uh some garden lights over the benches. I to this date I have provided work to the gazebo with painting and or the garden with painting and staining. The benches, including garden lights, added four six

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uh 16 foot 6x6 inch pillars to run garden lights from as well as repainted the benches. Ongoing work with the gazebo bridge, ongoing work with the concrete bridge. um ongoing work with the garden swing to

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which um to which we would like to call it the serenity swing that overlooks the Eagle Scout project of projects of the Jefferson Boys of Truth 79. That said, uh we have been behind on my Eagle Scout

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project because of my struggles mental health, uh part of which is what brought me here tonight. My parents are the large advocates, but sometimes smooth roads become rocky all of a sudden. Kind kind of like the hiking the AT or for

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those who do not know what it is, what that stands for is the Appalachian Trail. Let me tell you a quick story. My first big hike was at a place called Blue Rocks in um in Pennsylvania just near Allentown. We went to the trail

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head and it wasn't the nicest of days. The rain was spitting, but we had a goal, so we set out. The road was not so bad. A little rain, but it slowed. We started to get to an area where the trail started to go up a steep angle. As

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we went up, the precipitation returned, but it was snow this time. The radar showed some passing showers, but that was it. The clarity on the mountain was not great, but we wanted to look out over the cliffs, so we headed on. It wasn't pretty, but we pushed through. We

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finally got to the rock pile by the cliffs and started a p and still a persistent fog from all the ant or participate or precipitation hung in the valley. We settled in and got our lunch out. As we

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did, the sun started to pierce through. That's when the fog started to uh the fog started to melt and you could see the valley was just so vast. I was probably all 11 years old, but the view uh but the view was something out of an

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art gallery. That was my first trip with Mr. Jefferson and Matt. I'll tell you this because my road hasn't always been great. There have been times where there was some rain where there were times I looked up and went however will I make

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the next step. Um there were times that I tried to take away or take away out of the world entirely. Um, but instead my parents were in were

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but instead my parents were my gear and they were like the boots on the and my walk were my walking poles. They were stable when I wasn't. There were times where the trail mix and the water in my pack they f they fed me

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giving me a positive feeling when the road seemed too hard to handle. See they are they are that trail with a view tough on me when they need to be but help me so that I can get a positive view. I had

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mental health difficulties as long as I can remember. Time and time again I hear how hard it was to get or time and time again I hear how hard it is to get help particularly in Kate May County for those struggling with mental health. To

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be honest, I'm on that trail again figuratively like I was in Pennsylvania. The road is winding and difficult. But uh both my personal life or in both my personal life and my scout life, I didn't expect to have put so much time

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into my Eagle Scout project, which to the date I have 475 hours. Uh, and I know at this point besides finishing the project, I promised there would be no further expectations, but I wanted to add something that I will feel that I

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feel will positively impact the area further that I further I plan on adding an information board that discusses help for those struggling particularly with suicidal ideiation. I want to help. I want people to get help and see that

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there are better days. Days like I spent with Mr. Jefferson and Matt where things didn't look great at the start or to start. They didn't look great to start continued to get better. And I couldn't think of a better way of honoring him than by placing a swing that not only

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overlooks the project I worked on, but directly across his son's e his son's eagle projects. I come to this meeting not to or not only to bring light to the project I'm working on but ask

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I come to this meeting not to or not only to bring light to the project I'm working on but to ask one ask one you point me in or to any resources that would help further benefit my project particularly with mental health but I

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ask if the community would get behind me with a when the project is completed for for to do a formal dedication. Thank you for your time and attention to my project. >> Gabriel, thank you. You're a brave young man and I appreciate what you're doing

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for the church and it's a step great for the youth to the day and not everybody is an athlete and what you do is very good and scouting fills a niche for a lot of people and I'm proud to say you're a member of our community

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and we look forward to supporting you and we'd love to be there at the ribbon cutting speaking for myself I don't know my colleagues I'm sure would love to be there. Yeah, moving forward. Feel free and Ryan, we spoke. You can use me as a point of contact to the township. We can we can steer you in the right direction.

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To be to be honest, we can't directly give you anything. It's not not something that we can do, but we have as from a township perspective, but we will be present for anything that you do and we have resources and contacts. And I already started an email chain this morning with some people in the mental

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health area. As a teacher, I have some contacts. the school would be something I would recommend um for your suicide stuff that the 988 um hotline number that's a nonprofit organization that could help you. So, we're going to continue this conversation. It's not just tonight.

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>> I would also reach out Yeah. Uh not to cut off that um you also could reach out to Cape Assist. They have a lot of resources down there too. Y >> but with your project is there if there is going to be like trash debris and stuff like that where the township can assist you we can provide a dump truck

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>> maybe if you need it one evening so it could be load we we're not going to give you the keys >> yes >> we're going to let we'll let you put the trash in debris whether you need it for the weekend or something like that that's something you could arrange for Mrs. Herring or or Jim Vance Life. I'm sure public works can assist in that

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matter, right? AB: >> Absolutely. >> Okay. I was looking for you to say no, >> but we're happy to assist you. We look forward to your project and to completion. >> I grew up in the Sevil Methodist Church. I appreciate what you're doing and what

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you've done for the community. >> Thank you guys for your time. Thank you for helping me. Have a >> great day. Thank you. Is there anyone else in the public like to address trans committee? >> Hearing no more public comment. We'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

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>> I make the motion. >> Second. >> Please call the role. >> Mr. Cassaceio, >> yes. >> Mr. Nappen, >> yes. >> Mr. Columbo, >> yes. Mayor Corson, >> yes. >> Motion carried. >> All right, everyone have a good night. We have no closed session, so we will not be coming back. I'll just have to stay here and sign some papers. But I

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think Mr.