Good evening. >> Welcome everybody to the June 11th, 2026 Vendor City Commission meeting. Uh just call to order. Can I have everybody stand for the flag salute, please? Pledge allegiance to the flag >> of the United States of America and to
the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. >> Thank you everybody. Uh may I have roll call please? >> Commissioner Langra >> here. >> Commissioner Mento
>> here. >> Mayor Creable >> here. >> Thank you. >> Lisa, may I have the open public meeting announcement, please? >> Pursuant to the open public meetings act, adequate notice of this meeting has been provided. The agenda for this meeting is posted in city hall and on
the Ventner city's website. >> Thank you. May I have the live streaming announcement, please? >> The city of Venner offers live streaming and the option of public comment via remote access as a convenience to the public. In the event remote access is unavailable for any reason beyond the city's control. The city will not pause
or stop the live meeting. The city reserves the right to discontinue remote access at the discretion of the city for any future meetings. >> Thank you. Uh this evening we we do have a presentation. Can I ask the officers to come up to the the front and we'll we
have a presentation for um Jerry Schaefer is here tonight with his family. Um if you could just open up that uh plaque and we have we have a lot of some other honored guests here. So former former
Chief Mike Miller, you're invited. [laughter] I see former mayor Chryser is here as well. Um Jerry, if you would like to come up. So, I'll just read the I'll I'll read the plaque and and I just want to say
from myself, Jerry, I know that the the the job of dispatch is something that is um it's it's a behind the scenes and it's it's sometimes something that uh I don't think the general public really understands. When I first started 10 years ago, I sat with some of your men
for a few hours just to see what it was like. And um it happens it it's it happens seamlessly because because [clears throat] you all work together and because you make sure that uh the men are where they need to be.
You're resource you're you're you've got a and I you know what the resources are and and you know your experience is something you can't put a really can't put into words in a dollar amount. you know the city like the back of your hand and you know the top you know and and uh
and I think the whole the whole community wants to thank you for the the the the years that you've put in and I'm sure that the entire police force does. So I personally want to thank you in recognition of your over 50 years of dedicated service this is uh the to the city of Vendor and its citizens and vi
and visitors. Gerald Schaefer began his lifetime of service as a special patrolman in 1974, he said, before becoming a full-time patrolman in 1978. Throughout your career in law
enforcement, you rose through the ranks of police department, becoming a sergeant in 1983 and a lieutenant in 1989. In March of 1991, he's promoted to the head of the Ventner Police Department as chief of police. Chief Schaefer remained at the helm of the department for over nine years before
retiring as chief in October 30 on October 31st of 2000. Beginning in 2001, not taking any time off there. [laughter] Uh Gerald Schaefer became back to public service when he was hired as a communications operator. During the next
25 years of service as dispatcher, Jerry Schaefer gave a calming voice to those who contacted the police department in need of help. Venner City Police Department is eternally grateful for the long-standing commitment to public service you have given the department and the city of Venner. We all wish you
a joyful retirement and thank you for your service. >> Thank you. You're here. empty also has a couple dispatch. I think it's going to be a good one more.
Yeah, I can't let him get it. I can get a busy job. This was great. July plates. Oh yeah. Yeah, but I'm thinking about when I've had to
call them >> do the negotiation. Oh, I don't know what it is. Have you ever gone in the room? >> So Jerry, if you want to stay, we're going to do a resolution accepting your retirement if you want to. And you might you might enjoy that.
[laughter] >> Do that now. >> What's that? >> If we might Yeah, we might vote. It might might be a no vote. >> So um we're going to pull out of um out of consent. We're going to pull
resolution 2026-172. Resolution City of Ventner, County of Atlantic, State of New Jersey, accepting the retirement of Gerald J. Schaefer effective June 30th, 2026. May I have a motion, please? >> Reluctantly, I will make that motion. >> Second.
>> Have a roll call. Lisa, >> Commissioner Langraph, >> yes. >> Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Creable, >> yes. >> Thank you again, Chief It's an easy >> three years here. >> No, they all worked on this.
>> Yeah, I was here when I worked for Cory as chief for the last two years I worked for him. Didn't have much dealing with him. >> Okay. You still got it. >> Oh, >> why didn't
Which one do I look this serious? Look at those fine daddies. or this >> cat now on is on our >> Yeah, she was on Zoom. >> She's on start. Yeah. >> All right, we'll pick up um we'll pick up on the next item. Department head
reports. We have none today. Capital discussion. Um we do not have capital discussion today. Um minutes there are none. We have one ordinance introduction. Uh that bond ordinance will be uh
2026-011. bodance providing the acquisition of various equipment vehicles for the fire department and the city of Venner County of Atlantic State of New Jersey appropriating 1,270,000 authorizing the issuance of 1,29,523
bonds for notes to finance part of the cost thereof. This is for um command vehicle, a new um engine which we need to get in to replace a 30 plus year old engine uh
that is no longer maintainable >> and >> a pump truck and um and some other various uh PPE. I believe there's some other uh it's all based on the fire department's uh operating. All right. Uh
any questions on that? We >> Chief gave us a good update on it. >> Chief gave us an update on it last time last time. >> Maria, you >> No, I He gave me an update also. >> He g He did. That's right. >> Um moving forward, we have no public
hearing or adoptions. We do have a number of resolutions uh for consent. Um we have uh resolution 169. Uh this is for an overpayment for
uh uh Jonathan Wooten for firearms refunding. Um we have 170. Uh this is uh amending parking u within the city from July 1st through September 30th. Um uh for no parking. This is uh
something we do every year >> for our summer events. >> For our summer events. Correct. And we have 171. Uh this is uh contract to Gemini General Contracting for Winchester Avenue water mane replacement phase one not to exceed 1.2. You want to
>> Sure. So it's basically what it says. Water man replacement that includes the laterals and street re reconstruction and all that. Um we had three biders and I say this all the time. You know when you have bids that are this tight together that means your specs and your designs were really good. Um the first
two bids were literally uh not even 15 about $10,000 apart. So the third one was a little higher, but you had 1.267 1.272. So $4,000 there. And then the other one
was 1.8 1.876 million. So, um I give that credit to our design team on those um and our city engineer getting those specs out and our our RFQ with um Q what is it? QPR >> QPA >> QI [clears throat] QPA Roger McLaren and
getting those specs together >> so they're easy to bid on, right? >> And you get good bids, we get good numbers. So >> So when it's too early to say when it's going to happen? >> Yeah, we'll have precon meetings once we get these guys on board and and um we'll we'll let the public know. It will not happen before the end of the summer, I'm
pretty sure. >> Think so. >> Moving down, skipping 172. We We've already voted on 173 is 173, 174, 175, 176, 177,
178, 179, and 180 are all renewals of existing liquor licenses. either uh planner or retail of our existing
>> all the paperwork >> all the paperwork came in in time. >> Yes. All >> was done. So we're good. They'll have their licenses for July 1st. >> That's good to know. All right. So that's 100%. That is uh that is ordinances 173 through 180.
Picking up on 181. Uh this is a uh language change uh conform with amendments to the New Jersey Family Leave Act in the per personnel policy manual. Um we we discussed this via Tom through some emails. Any questions or
comments or color you want to put on that? It's self-explanatory. >> Yeah, it's adding time based on the state requirements. >> Right. Family leave act. >> Yep. >> Uh 182. Um this is authorizing the hire hiring of a William Towns and part-time
code enforcement in trainee. Lance, do you want to make an >> Yeah, sure. So, Bill comes to us as a retired Camden County um prosecutor's office chief of detectives. Um having a secondary zoning officer will help us keep track of property maintenance,
things of that nature. Um keep on top of folks maintaining their properties, including commercial and residential pieces. Um, I've always said this and I learned it firsthand in in Brigantine. Having a retired police officer as a zoning officer is very helpful. They see things other people don't. They're very
observant. Um, and they see things in black and white, which is pretty much what zoning code violations are. So, I've met Bill a few times. U, he's a resident here in Bentner. Um, full-time resident now. He was a second homeowner. Now he's a full-time. So, I've seen him,
met him. Um, very outstanding gentleman. And I think, you know, he'll be part-time uh for for the next 12 months or so and then hopefully move into that position after the the trainee is done. >> I've met him, too. And if you could judge a person by what you see when you
meet him, I think he's going to be great for he's very nice. >> Yes. >> Calm calm demeanor, which is perfect for the zoning officer. >> Good. Well, I think it's something that we can all uh appreciate that, you know, good good good enforcement is good for everybody.
>> Um, so moving next to 183. This is uh design construction management uh resolution with uh change order with Remington and Vernick engineers for the services on the um Siri Avenue water tower to repaint project. So there was a there was a
change order uh I think we talked about that last. Yeah, there was a structural change needed to the plans. The interior some of the interior support structures of the the bowl were in poor shape. They had to be redone. So, there was a change to that contract. We also have to change the inspection. So, it's about $5,500 in
additional inspection fees for Remington Vernick. >> It's getting uh good reviews from the boat house. It looks great. >> Yeah. And it went back online last Friday, I think, Ernie. >> So, we're back online full full of water and right >> providing good pressure for the heights. >> Great.
That's great. Any other questions? Uh 184. Um this is uh state of New Jersey authorizing change order number one final for the delivery of the boardwalk lumber. >> Yep. >> This is the last batch >> last batch of of lumber for the
boardwalk. Um we're storing it here in the city. We had to take possession of it in order to finalize the billing on it to complete our requirements with the state for the for the grant they gave us. Right. Right. Uh so it's another almost $17,000 in lumber. Um just additional pieces that we needed to
complete not just this phase but phase two. >> Right. And is that all the lumber we'll need for phase two? >> Fingers crossed. >> Fingers crossed. It's hard to get. >> Gotcha. Um we are adding one resolution on the bench. Resolution 185. This is
authorizing uh seasonal part-time employment for the >> This says uh recreational aid but in the department of revenue and finance but it's a this is for initial court attendant >> tennis court pickle ball. Yeah, >> tennis court pickle ball attendant
part-time. Uh start date of June 29th. All right. That's a busy court. Um any that's the last resolution by consent which we will bring in a regular meeting. Are there any other questions? >> No.
>> No. Uh we have no discussion. We have no we have approval and bills and payroll. Do you have that Tom? >> I have them. >> You have those Lisa. Okay. And so I'll call on you when we get there. No discussion items in my on my list for today. No.
Um so moving forward we have uh time for public portion on any items that have been discussed so far in the workshop portion of the meeting. not general comments about the city in general, but
if there's anything about any of the uh resolutions or the ordinances that we've talked about so far, uh please come up to the mic or make yourself known on the Zoom platform where raise your hand and state your name and address and you'll be recognized by the
>> Tim Cer ventner city. The traininee that you talked about earlier, is that additional to staff or is that a replacement >> training? the traininee person that you >> It's new for now. We're preparing for someone to be retiring. >> Okay. Great. >> Well, I agree that we need to maintain the code enforcement and having an ex
law enforcement person is very valuable. So, it sounds like a real good choice. However, I'm a little bit surprised because several years ago I I raised the issue of in the housing budget that there was a drastic cut uh in the budget amount and I was told
that's because some of that work was subcontracted out. Is that work still being subcontract contracted out or question? >> Uh yeah. So I think you're referring to inspections, not code enforcement. >> I was specifically talking about code enforcement at that time.
>> Yeah, >> that was a housing budget, right? that the the building is in the another line item >> that that hasn't been cut since I've been here. So, the last three years it is not the the the change was for a third party to do the inspections during
construction. >> Yeah. If you have something in housing that you're referring to, it doesn't sound like it's something we're familiar with. >> I'll go back and check my notes, but very good. It sounds like a very good hire if it's a law enforcement person, somebody code enforcement.
Um, moving forward, anybody else have public comments for anything that we've talked about so far? Anybody on the Zoom platform? >> Anybody on Zoom have any questions or comments on the agenda that you've heard
so far? >> No. >> Okay. Hearing none. Can I have a motion to close public portion? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Commissioner Langra. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. >> Yes. >> Mayor Creable. >> Thank you. Can I have a motion to close public portion of the meeting?
>> Close workshop. Motion to close workshop. >> The workshop. I'm sorry. I said I said public portion. May I have a motion to close the workshop portion of the meeting and call to order the regular portion of the meeting? >> So moved. >> Second. >> A roll call. Lisa. >> Mr. Langra. >> Yes. >> Mr. Mento. Yes.
>> Mayor Creable. Yes. So, we have uh approval of minutes. May I have a motion to introduce uh ordinance number 2026-011? >> Make a motion to introduce ordinance 2026-011, a bond ordinance providing for the
acquisition of various equipment fire department for the fire department. >> Second. >> Roll call. Lisa. >> Commissioner Langrath. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. >> Yes. >> Mayor Creable. >> Yes. No ordinance public hearings. No ordinance adoptions. >> Before you move on from that, can I just
give everybody a heads up that in all likelihood sometime over the next couple of months, we'll be presenting to you two more bond ordinances. One for general capital improvements and equipment purchases for public works and infrastructure and one for some things that Ernie needs in the water and sewer
utility. So, those will be two separate to this one. >> Okay. Thank you. Great. Uh resolutions. May I have a motion to adopt resolutions 2026-169 through 171 and 173 through 185 which
was added on the bench as described earlier in the workshop portion. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Roll call. Lisa. >> Commissioner Langria. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor >> Creable. >> Yes. >> Lisa, may I have uh bills and payroll, please?
>> Certainly. So, we have payroll May 30th through June 12th of 2026 in the amount of $696,477.73 and move bills in the amount of 1,399,37516. >> Thank you. I have a motion to approve bills and payroll, please. >> I'll make that motion. I
>> have a second. >> Second. >> Roll call. Lisa. >> Commissioner Langra. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. >> Yes. Mayor Creable. you. Uh, no safety reports. Uh, any commissioner comments or reports? Lance, you want to start? >> Yeah, sure. Thank you, mayor. Um,
just getting some updated numbers from from Ernie today on our drinking water. March production was just under 36 million gallons. U 1.1 million gallons per day. Um, continuing replacement of outdated Corey hydrants throughout the city. Fire
hydrants, hydrant flushing in progress with Ventner Water and Fire Department in separate areas. We typically notify folks in those neighborhoods when we're doing that so they know you not have to park there unless they want their car wash that day and then they can park it right in front of the fire hacker. Um
compliance and water quality annual safe drinking act sampling quarter two uh that'll be starting through throughout the city. Um let's see what else we got. Water supply status as I talked about the tower over on Siri Avenue has been
put back into service since last Friday. Um, well number five is still out of service. We're looking at new construction of that well in fall of 2026. Uh, lead service line project. We will have a a second meeting on June 27th for
that outreach to be conducted by our friends at um, um, I'm trying to think of the name of the group that >> Thank you. New Jersey F. I knew it was futures. I couldn't think where they were from. Our state, New Jersey Futures. They're helping us with the public output uh for information as well
as that qualifies us for the forgivable loans from the iBank. So, we're we're kind of following their lead on it. Uh they will lead it. I'll be there and Commissioner Cre or Mayor Cream was there last time. Mar they last about two hours. Got a lot of good information.
>> So, good. >> Yeah, I was away last time. >> Yeah, I remember that. So, >> it was really really wellrun. Well, a lot of uh a lot of great information. It made the presenter I think was really clear and concise. >> Have to make sure he spells Ernie's name right this time. He had Ernie's name
wrong in That's important. >> Uh wastewater side um continue maintenance of the lines, jetting and vacuums collection system. U cleaned up our pump stations, Lily Park public works in Lafayette. So those are all running well. Um a lot of other updates.
We had an issue out of Fusion Church if you remember on Easter. >> Yes, I do. >> The Easter Eve I guess it was. that's been completely repaired. Uh we're still discussing that with uh South Jersey Gas who actually caused the issue. Um they're claiming they were told they could cut a sewer lateral
by someone at the city. I'm like that's probably not something that we would have done. >> It was 20 plus years ago. So maybe not that long, but it was it was quite a while ago. >> Um so we're negotiating them to reimburse us on that. That's going to be a little bit of a battle. Nicole and and
Cat are working on that for us. um priority projects, Lily Park pump station, railing and repair and stair replacement, well recoding, things of that nature. So, there's a lot of stuff coming up coming in the winter. Uh public works, um finalizing, continue
to summer prep, beach mats have been going out. Um trash enclosures on the beach, they're bigger. If you notice, if you get to see them, they're much bigger this year. >> Um hold more bigger cans and more trash. on the tennis courts. Windscreens are up. Uh cable was installed. I believe
Jim's was there. I think they're meeting tomorrow with Comcast to get internet so we can have our the other cameras that might that we're going to add out there, right? >> As well as the one the pickle ball folks put up themselves. We're looking at security cameras. The pickle ball group themselves had their own little cameras
so they could see if the courts were open or how big they were. Yeah. Right. So that's all I know. That was a lot. So >> yeah. No, it's good. Well, >> thank you. I actually met with one of the women from pickle ball today and she
wanted to go over some of her suggestions and we'll go over them and you were aware I was meeting with her. So, um Kim came um Santo who works uh there in the summer and uh she was very helpful also to kind of I don't
play so she kind of like was explaining things to me and um [clears throat] how some things work. You should explain how to score the game because that's that's the whole mess. I can't even figure that out. >> Um, so regarding my uh department's
revenue and finance and special events, um, finance, you know, pretty much is business as usual. Amy's been onboarding the summer employees, which takes a little bit of time in the new payroll system. And I think our auditors left, so they're done with their fieldwork, I
guess. And okay. Oh, yeah, they did. But I don't know why that was in her summary. Um maybe she just wanted to remind me of that. And um we had some tax appeals
that amounted to not like the old days, $850 of return taxes. So um yeah, I I mean I remember when I first came here, it was >> hundreds of thousands of dollars >> as a result of a thousand people their taxes
>> and they were north of 100,000. Hundreds of thousands of them. Yeah. Yeah. So, that was always a very ch uh challenging for us to handle. Um, regarding events, uh, I'll just give you some of them coming up for anybody that's listening or looks at this later. And, um, I think
I need new glasses. Uh, May, let's see, we're not in May. Where are we? Um, June 27th and 28th is a citywide yard sale. June 27th is a school's out for summer concert at Newport Avenue. Um
I missed June 13th which is the Dean Randazzo Cancer Foundation fundraiser at Ski Beach. June 29th is movie night at Ski Beach at 5:30. We will have Independence Celebration coming up at Newport Beach at 6 PM on
July 3rd, I think. What day of the week is that? Let's look at that. >> Uh the Friday. Yeah, I think it's a Yeah, it's a Friday. Um, the concert series will be ongoing
Wednesdays and Saturdays. Our schedule is on the Veterary City special events page as well as um I think you can get to it from our page. Also, the farmers market, which uh we love and is all done by volunteers, is ongoing every Friday.
And um again, there's still sponsorship opportunities available for events in the city of Ventner. And there's a whole package that um we can go over with you for various levels. And um that's pretty much it.
>> A couple of things. Rick had sent me a note and I I didn't look at it before I spoke. So there's a couple things on the boardwalk. We've uh started replacing some of the showers again. So we four of the newer ones uh were installed. Um, new welcome to ventner signs are arriving next week. So, we should have them installed over the next couple of
weeks. And let's see, what else did it give me? Beach mats at 20 29 beach crossovers installed. This is four additional streets from last year. Uh, beach crossover rails post added at 14 locations. Beach is being ragged daily. We know about that. Uh, traffic closures
I talked about. And lastly, we welcomed about 2500 bicycle riders from the American Cancer Society ride last Sunday. >> Um they keep asking us to get involved and ride. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> And they keep saying, "Well, there's short sections of it. You can like start in Pleasantville." I'm like, "Yeah,
we're going to get laughed at if we do that." But um you can also go up and ride just the bridge. >> There's a lot of folks that ride over the Ben Franklin bridge. Yeah. >> Ben, >> um they are thrilled to be at Ski Beach. Um they they the riders really like
coming into our that that Well, this year they didn't because there was a headwind for that two miles >> coming down um Wellington Avenue. But um >> it must be an early start because they were done by >> Yeah. Yeah. They're they leave up there at 6:30, 7:00, something like that.
>> Um two of my oldest friends from college road, one of them is a cancer survivor. So I embarrassed him, which is our right as elected official to embarrass our old friends. So I brought him up on stage and and got to say a few things about him and all four of them. They I met them all in college. They all
>> ended up in college together and married and still together. So they all come down for for that ride. So it was fun. It was a great event, great day um out there on Ski Beach. It was breezy. So it was very nice for everybody. They have music, uh food trucks and all that stuff. And >> they look well organized.
>> Yeah, they they do a nice job. They they do everything. I'm pretty sure they left Ski Beach probably fairly pristine. We don't do anything. >> Wow. >> They they pay for our police officers. They cover all the overtime and and do a nice job with cleanup. So, >> they're and they come to support our
events. They were at the block party. >> Yeah. >> They set up a booth there. So, just wanted to get that in. I'm sorry. >> No, they've been a great partner ever since they started. >> And they want to keep coming back. So, >> we also had Lour to Down Beach. >> Yes, we did. That's right. Yep. Um we had uh it's three communities Vetner,
Margate and Longport where um down Lord down beach rides from Vetner up into Atlantic City and then to Longport and they end up at Tomatoes um and that's a fundraiser ride as well like Weezen and the Vendor Business Association and Market Business Association put that together and it went off great. I think
I didn't see a number on riders. >> No, but it was uh >> very well attended. Yeah. >> It doesn't look like it looked like it was about the typical Yeah. They they stretch from from like Newport to New Haven. >> Yeah. >> And and three or four wide. I think people were a little surprised to see so many riders there at that hour. But they
they it it was >> we pushed it back because they had the boardwalk um bungalow run >> at the Atlantic City section of the boardwalk. So they they pushed this ride back so it didn't clash. >> So and they actually lost a few riders because I heard a couple people couldn't make it. >> Right. But
>> did anybody do the Phillies tailgate? >> Uh, I was out there. Yeah. Okay. Um, >> I had a lot of people telling >> it was fun. Yeah, it was great. Great weather. A lot of people there. Um, everybody brought lawn chairs. You know, Billy's lost, but you know, >> it was it was a good time. It was well
wellrun. Again, Benner Business Association done a nice job with it. >> Jackie and her team, uh, Rory, where's Joe Schaefer was here? But, um, yeah, it was it was a nice job. >> It's a good start to those events. They're And there's a lot of complicated events. first starting with you know the
the the Kenny Whan run that whole that you know the first and now that we're getting into the the you know the heat of the summer starts with our um our beaches are going to be open um you know the but I think all those events people are if they're if they hear hear us
they'll be uh the best place to to look is our different our different uh social media outlets because that's where all the all the dates and times and the details are >> right Mhm. >> Um I just have my uh I'll have a second
um uh um a second um public safety uh forum on the 20th coming up at the library in the community room at 10:00. That's a Saturday. If uh and that one is focused on the North Beach area. Um, so
others are welcome, but it the idea is to get the people in their neighborhoods to talk about their specific issues. Um, so if uh if uh if anyone's available on the 20th at 10 a.m. I'll be at the library community room on the Atlantic
City side of the library. Uh we'll put that out as well. Um and that's all I had. Anybody else? >> Nope. Um so may I have a motion to open the meeting to public comment? >> So moved. >> Second.
>> So at this time we welcome participated in anyone uh interested organizations or individuals uh to speak on any topic regarding anything in Ventner. Um, in order to keep the commission, conduct and the business of the city in the most
productive manner, uh, please come up to the microphone, give your name and address. Uh, we typically ask, uh, everyone to limit your comments to three minutes. Um, >> having trouble hearing. >> So, if you have something to say, you
come up to the microphone. We need your full name and address for the record. And you can speak on anything uh, regarding anything in the city. We ask uh during the workshop, no, right in front of you there, the green green button. >> All right. Um >> we ask you to limit your comments. >> Thank you. >> We ask you to limit your comments to
three minutes. >> Okay. Uh my name is Beverly Goldberg. Uh I live at 107 South Baton Rouge and I've been there since 1966 when my father bought the house. He bought the only house on the street without off- street
parking. But the house was built in 1898 when I think they didn't have automobiles. I'm not sure. But uh at any rate, I'm here to talk about parking on my street. Uh I inherited the house along with my three sons uh in 1981.
And if you recognize my name, my youngest son, Adam F. Goldberg, created the TV show The Goldbergs, kind of a celebrity on the street. And he actually of many filmed many episodes here at the shore and he shows them on the show if
you watch the show. and one of them involved parking. Um I since I've been there, it's 1980 is when I inherited. There's always a problem on the street and we have limited I have no off street parking. Uh so we depend on the street
parking. I kind of resent um that I pay taxes and uh Vassor Square uses our street as a parking lot and they allow their employees to park there. people that do not they don't live in Vetner.
They come in and they they can get a parking pass to park there because they work there. I had a fight last summer with some young lady who's a waitress there. And she said, "Oh, I'm in Margate. I live in a fancy street, but here in Venner, I can park wherever you I want. I'm entitled." I said, "You
don't live here. Why are you?" She said, "Well, I work at Vasser." I don't think that that should be I don't know what I have to do to eliminate that. We also have renters on the street that come in and they park they one couple they they
take up two spots each of them. So they park their cars so nobody's on either side of them. And you know on a street where there's limited parking uh Vassor has no parking on their street at all because I understand I went into the police and they said well we have to get
a fire truck down there. Well what if a fire truck has to come down our street? it wouldn't be able to. The trash trucks just about make it down. And I don't think it's right. If you are not a resident paying taxes, you should not be allowed to park there.
>> And uh you know uh it's crazy today. Somebody came, they parked there for eight hours. I had to call the police twice. I you know, they must be tired of hearing my voice already about this, but I've just reached the boiling point with it. And the clip that my son showed on
the Goldbergs, by the way, has in 1980 has me jumping on a car. Very bad behavior on my part. And everybody always says, "Is that true? Did you really jump on the car?" Yes, I did. I was so angry. My son filmed it upstairs
with his camera. It's like very embarrassing. Everybody should have their child write a TV show about everything bad that you did when you were raising them, okay? And then you can really be embarrassed. But uh he wrote the six years of the Goldbergs and I am guilty of everything uh including
misbehaving in restaurants, you know, and stuff like that that uh happened in those six years. So, but at any rate, what do I have to do? What can we do to get like just those passes given out to only people that pay taxes on the
street? Not to like, oh, I work over at Vassor. I I work on the parking lot, so therefore I can park all over the street. >> So, a couple things. First of all, uh my favorite part of the show is when your son has the videos. >> Has the what? >> Has the actual videos that shows the actual videos at the end.
>> So many of the my raised my kids here. Adam used to go up on the boardwalk at four years old with the video camera and he would say to people, "I'm doing a documentary for CNN. Would you talk to me?" >> Funny. >> Doesn't every fouryear-old do a documentary? >> Let me ask you a question. You're uh are
you what is your address again? >> 107 >> 107 you have a you have you have a a a garage but it's inoperable. Is it too small for a car? >> It was built the house was built in 1898. You know what I could get in the garage? A golf cart, >> right?
>> It's minute. Um I don't know. Maybe they parked the horse on the side of the house and there was a carriage in there. I have no idea. But we are we are actually declared um uh um what do they call it? You know when
historical somebody on the street had our street declared historical because we were the first street I've looked up I've looked up the history of our street and we were um the house behind us facing Vassor was built by Stanford
White and that had the ordinance for all Ventner. >> I think the answer is right in what you just said. What? >> So the house was built in what year? >> 1898. >> 1898. So there was no provision in this
town in the home that you owned and you lived in for so long. >> There's some responsibility. I think I I mean I'm not trying to decipher this, but the house just wasn't built for off- streetet parking. >> Well, my >> because there was because the town at the time >> my father didn't think his neighbors would ever drive cars.
>> No. I I live in a 100 year. I have the same size garage and I could only fit a a sports car in it. So the the there's not there's there's a limitation on what the city can can do >> with Let me let me just finish. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Because you asked a couple questions, so I'm going to try to answer them for you.
You asked about what we can do about parking permits in the zone, and you also asked about what we can do about taxpayers or non- taxpayers. Well, I'll kick that to our attorney, but it doesn't sound like something you can do legally because the the street itself >> is considered a public right of way. So,
you can't park there with impunity and neither can anyone else whether they're taxpayers or not. They can come from anywhere and park on a public street just like you would if you were to go to Philadelphia or to Cherry Hill, >> right? So, it would be the same it's would be the same thing. So, and and the
the parking permits. Um, I think there's a little bit of dis maybe a disparity on what we as a governing body think about them. I I think we we could look at whether there are things that need to be updated with the parking permits. If we
remove them, the parking permit does not give those people that you're saying that does not give them a parking place. It just gives them the ability to >> get a handicap sign. My husband is turning at 89. >> Handicap signs are not are not a thing. They won't. I even ordered online. They told me I couldn't put them in my garden. >> Cannot.
>> No. >> Yeah. I was told that. >> Yeah. So, >> I mean, I just two weeks ago we had a park three blocks away. That was ridiculous. I had groceries and you know, my husband's 88. He does play pickle ball, by the way. >> Okay. >> Talking about pickle ball.
>> But his back is out now. And you know, it's hard. It's very hard to park so far away. And the uh episode that Adam showed on TV. They were people from Atlantic City. Yeah. Who came up to Ventner to park in Bentner, she saved the spot, the wife
>> and he was pulling out of the spot and I was pulling my car forward and that was the fight. We called the police. My husband called the police and and the the cop said to the guy, he said, "I wouldn't leave my car here. This lady's pretty angry." So what happens now in this city is that houses that were
around that age are obsolete for a couple of other reasons. Not just because there's no off- streetet parking, but because there's uh they don't fit the lifestyles of today. They don't they're not they don't fit the the the flood the flood uh the flood planes
of today. And >> street on the island. So, but what what happens is that when those houses have li have decayed to non to the point where they can't be helped, they get torn down and they and people incorporate parking into them because that's the lifestyle of today. Got
>> on their own property. So, there's not Well, what I could recommend you do is if you see someone parked illegally in front of your driveway, >> cool. you call or what is considered what's considered most uh you have a you have a split driveway between you and
the neighbor closer to the ocean. >> Um you no one's going to call you >> on your blocking your own driveway. >> We share the driveway. >> You're on the corner, aren't you? >> You're 10, correct? >> You're 107 South. >> Not on the corner. We're on the parking
lot. that wonderful >> parking lot is on is if you're facing your house, it's on the left and then you have a blue awning, blue and white awnings and then there's a house on the right. >> So you have a driveway that and >> that gets one car only and I share it with my neighbors. So if they need it,
you know, we're very friendly with them so that's fine, right? But I just >> So you could block your own park. What I'm getting at is you could block your own driveway putting the tail of putting one side of your car halfway through. So there's your one parking spot. I know. >> More than most more than a lot of people have.
>> Why are these people that work at Vasser allowed to get parking permits? They don't live in Ventner. None of them live in Ventner that work there. They live in Margate or along from waitress job. >> I don't know how I could I could I could comment on that.
>> What can we do about that? >> Well, a lot issued. So, they're issued through uh code office and you have to show an ID that has a ventner address to get those parking permits. Now, what may be happening, they got it. >> Ma'am, here here's how we have to work
this. If you're going to continue to interrupt us, we're going to ask you to sit down and then we'll answer your questions. >> Yeah, we're trying to we can't go back and forth because you're not >> You tell me. Thank you. >> We're not trying to debate or win an argument here. We're just trying to we're trying to answer your questions. >> Exactly. So, they have to show an ID to
get the parking space to get the parking permit. What's most likely it seems to be happening is folks from Vassor are giving those to employees which should not be happening. So, what I guess we can maybe do is is have to ask PD to
look at it is if they see and it's going to have to just random checks, just check the numbers on the permits, >> right? >> And you know, if a slow night, we don't have any of those this summer, but in the winter time, maybe >> we can check the numbers on them and verify that they're to a a legal
resident of Ventner. I'm sorry, but part of living at the shore, and I've lived here all my life, is is, you know, since my greatgrandfather would drop us off on Texas Avenue and start circling the streets for parking. It's he's been
doing it since I was a child and I do it now. I have to walk and on Fourth of July and Memorial Day weekend, I sometimes have to walk >> four blocks to get to my house. It's part of it's part of the it's part of the it it's unfortunately part of the re the the reality of living in an island
that grow that triples in size and we all want to be here at the same time and your house doesn't your house isn't designed for anything but a but a but a a single a single parking place for a Model T. >> Listen, when my father bought the house, there was no Vassor Square.
>> It was not a problem. No, okay. So, and there was no parking lot, right? And my parents came one year. They they putting the building up. They didn't know about it when they bought the house. And then they knocked down four houses to build that parking lot for Vassor. They
>> have you asked Vassor to to rent that parking place next to your house. There's ones you could rent. You could you could rent parking inside their lot. >> I already inquired. >> That's as much as I can help you with. I I appreciate you coming out. I do think I would like somehow that they not give
it that they're be told that they can't give this to their employees. That would cut down a lot. >> Our administrator is going to come. >> I'll I'll take care of that. I'll I'll get with code and see how many permits they're issuing there, what the requirements are. Uh those are condominium apartments, right? So,
>> uh I'm not sure how many each unit gets. I think you get more than one. I think you can get probably at least two if I'm not mistaken. two for two for your own vehicles and then I think two for guests. They're copying them. >> So, um we'll take a look at that and see what's going on. >> If there's anybody if there's anybody
copying them, that's easy to find out. But if there's if, uh >> I appreciate that. Listen, I'm not the only one up and down the street. They're all complaining. They said we can't get our we can't park our own. >> Well, aware it starts in April. We start getting the complaint. >> And compiled with that, we have an Airbnb across the street. He's got off
street parking for six cars, but he rents it and he has like eight and 10 cars and they're all every year when I at the end of the season my car is bashed because they back out of his driveway right into my car. I mean, you know, that's like a whole another issue.
But >> that that is a whole other issue and I don't mean to cut you off either, but I've taken notes here. I think we're going to start with seeing what's going on with Vassor Square. If the permits are being used by employees and not residents or guests, then there's potentially a problem that we can fix.
Uh, but until I investigate that, I don't really know the answer. >> I have one other gripe with VA Vassor. They they're supposed to maintain the ground, the grass and everything on our street. >> So, you should take that up with Vasser, I guess.
>> I mean, they're it's all dead. There's dogs being walked there and stuff and they do it on the side facing Basser, but on our side it's not wellmaintained and every summer >> on the governor's strip just on yesterday. >> Yeah. The grass is all dead. I spoke to the gardener today. They were there and
he said, "Well, they didn't they told us not to do anything about it." Well, doesn't look very nice that it's, you know, dog duty all over there >> on the on the street side, not on the fence side, >> on Baton Rouge side. I'll take that upper with code also.
That that is also their jurisdiction. So >> Bill's first >> it might be Bill's first assignment. >> All right. >> Yeah. >> So they need to be I mean I go over I talk to the the gentleman at the desk and I say, "Hey, you know, how about putting some grass or sod down there? It looks terrible on our side of the
street." He said, "Well, we only see the side on Vassor, so we don't really care." Nice. Very nice. Okay. >> All right. Well, thank you. I send notes. >> Thank you >> for new stuff that my son is doing. He's writing a TV show for Peter Jackson,
Lord of the Rings, right now about vampires, and they're going to film it in New Zealand. >> Oh, wow. >> So, now we got a schle in New Zealand [laughter] because I tried to I said to him, >> if he's going to use any of if he's going to use any of this footage, I want
royalties. >> Thanks, guys. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. I can't understand who. >> Where's my Zoom? >> Tim Cryer, Vaner City. Any success uh with the land sale on Tuesday?
>> Yep. Both of them sold. >> Yes. Glad you asked. They they both sold. The first one that's uh the one closer to Atlantic City near Jackson Avenue. The minimum bid was 138 and we received a bid for that amount. There
was only only that one bid. Uh the other property had some competition. There were actually three biders. The uh minimum bid began at 1582 and we sold it for 211,000. >> Oh, very good. I guess wishes do come
true. >> Anybody on the Zoom platform have any comments for the general for the general order? Anybody on Zoom wish to question or comment on any items, please make yourself known by raising your hand or with the chat feature and
you'll be recognized. [snorts] >> No hearing none. >> A motion to close public comment. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call. Lisa. >> Commissioner Langria. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. >> Yes. >> Mayor Creable. >> Yes. Uh we have no uh no indication of
executive session today. So I will ask for a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. >> Roll call. Lisa. >> Commissioner Langrath. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Mento. >> Yes. >> Mayor Creable. >> Yes. Meeting adjourned.