Put him in right now. You're good to go. All right. Good evening everyone. I'll call to order the vendor city commission meeting July 10th, 2025. If I can ask you to rise for the flag salute to United States of America and to the
republic for it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, liberty and all. Thank you. Lisa, can I have the roll call, please? Commissioner Langra, here. Commissioner Mento here. Mayor Creable. Lisa, would you please read the open
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access at the discretion of the city for any future meetings. Thank you. Uh item six, we do not have department head reports this evening, nor do I'd like to do them in September. Yeah, we've been pushing them off and pushing them. We have Yeah, I think and and I might have something
capital-wise at least for discussion. Sure. Ed and I had a good meeting today about that. So, okay. In the fall, we do those. Yeah. Capital may not be quite ready by then, but Do you want to do one per meeting or do you want to have Yeah, I think we could do one because they can get little They can get a little
a little boring. Well, we just had three uh elected officials looking at pipes today, which, you know, that was exciting over at our pump station, which was actually pretty exciting, but no pipes. If you would asked my 12-year-old self if I would have been excited by pump station, I would have said no.
Um there was a young boy there that he was very excited about about a pump station. Yeah. So anyway, yeah. It all does make the city go round. Um so yeah, I I can definitely get um information. I can definitely have the
police fire and probably September would be or uh would be sometime around then would be a good time to recap the beach patrol. Okay. Maybe have them come in first. Yeah. All right. Um so uh we have no capital discussion.
No how and then um and then so just so the there see some people in the audience this is a workshop meeting. So the this first half of the meeting we um we discuss what's on the agenda and then there'll be a moment at the end of the first half workshop meeting if you have
anything you'd like to say about what has been discussed in the workshop meeting. That's the time where you can get up and and speak at the and then we launch the regular meeting where we do a lot of therefors and whatfors and vote. And then at the end of that there's a open session that you if you'd like to
speak about anything as long as it relates to the city of Etner um that's helpful. We talk about it then. All right. Um so the following items are scheduled for action uh at today's meeting. Uh we
will have the minutes of April 10th, 2025 regular meeting. Correct. Uh we will have ordinance introduction. Mayor, we're actually going to hold on that. Pull that until next month. So we're gonna may possibly even wait till September.
That's fine. Yeah. The parking. Just the parking. Just the parking, right? Yep. Okay. Okay. So, we're going to uh we will table the 2025-19 until further discussion. And then we
have um the next will be a public hearing and adoptions. This is uh first item is 2025-014 and this is bond ordinance providing uh various capital general capital improvements. Um this is appropriating
1.85 85 million uh issuance of bonds. Do you have any um any comments? Yeah, the um ordinance itself has a lot of detail. The ordinance itself does it lists all the items. It's distributed throughout
lot. Yeah. Right. Right. So these are departments across the across the the scope of city for general purpose. Um I think there's a a new Yeah. public works public works control utility. Yeah. Right. So these are things that
are bonded for these listed in the capital section of this year's budget. Right. This is the ordinance that actually authorizes the spending of those things that were uh put together as a planning tool. The one thing that I know I mean we have
a a replacement of uh four-wheel drive vehicle for the police department. I believe there's things of that nature in that. Yeah. There's any other comments or things that people want to point out? dumps, trucks, beach mats, trash and recycling containers. Just going through them real quick. Sewer improvements, building improvements,
right? It's a menagerie of things that we got to do to keep the city moving, right? Fire hydrants, right? It's comparatively um a small I I hate to say a million eight is a small amount, but it is comparatively considering some of the things that
we've done, but it is all bonded and and financed. And you you actually just combined the two. There's two ordinances that are both on for public hearing. The first one is the general improvements. Second one is the water and sewer capital improvements. That's where the fire hydrants are. So there's actually two ordinances. The things you just
described are located in one or both. Correct. Great. Thank you. And similarly, there's a uh and I don't I don't mean I don't mean to interrupt, but just so that the record's clear, we we have not borrowed anything yet.
These ordinances authorize us to borrow funds to do these projects. And it authorizes bonds and or notes. And so typically we do short-term financing through bond anticipation notes that are loans that are only good for one year
and then you either roll those over or eventually go to a bond sale where you do permanent financing. And you'll recall last month we did that with most of the outstanding debt that we had. This now authorizes new stuff. This has not yet been funded. So, but it
authorizes us to do bonds and or notes to fund these things. Okay. Understood. And and similarly the um the second ordinance ordinance um 2025-015 is uh various utility capital
improvements. So that's the that's the utility capital at $400,000 lending them. Sorry. Right. So and in the description that Commissioner Langraph had mentioned. Um so um moving on um the next item is 2025-016.
Uh this is a amending article 171 uh or chapter 171 article 3 entitled acts constituting disorderly conduct and 171-7 entitled hours of construction regarding pile driving. Did you want to add any comments to the pile driving? Yeah. What this does, it allows midweek
pile driving during the summer. Um, specifically targeting help with bulkheads, right? Um, we've had some bulkheading contractors come in and trying to get permits and we had stopped that a few years back. Um, we're realizing that that was probably a mistake to not allow
that to occur, right? Because we've got some bulkhead private bulkhead projects ongoing right now that if they don't have a bulkhead in place, it's a problem if we get a storm. I see. So, not just the sa not just the the work stoppage, but the the safety,
right? And it also the the process of driving these piles is a lot faster now. They'll do a project in a day in three, four hours, jet them in halfway, drive them the rest, and they're they're good to go. Still not allowing them on on Mondays, Fridays, and weekends and holidays. And that's where the disorderly conduct
comes into play. It's the penalty. It's the penalty for it. That's just the verbiage, right? We're just change we're not changing the penalty. We're just changing the the days that they're allowed to do it. Right. And that's midweek. Right. Got it. All right. So, the language is there. Y
um next is 2025-017. This is um uh public hearing and adoption of the bicycle roller skates and skateboards. This is our hours on the boardwalk which we talked about last meeting which um memorializes our
addition of evening hours. So this is on weekends adding um from a 5 to 10 hour boardwalk bicycling hours which was in a way already being used that way but um um this allows us to uh to to memorialize it and also to let people
know that they can use the boardwalk as another mode of transportation in the evening hours. Um next is 2025-1018. Um this is uh hearing an adoption of outdoor dining and premises expansion
permits. We discussed this as well last um last meeting. This discusses the walkways and the um the allowances for outdoor dining. Right. Any comments? No changes there. Just makes it permanent. That was part of what the governor allowed during Right. Right.
That would have gone away this summer, end of the summer, I think. Uh so we're making it permanent. Right. So, this is now now now now it's part of our our obviously it's part of what people enjoy at the beach and it's also something that um we had to do to to allow it to continue. Yeah. And mayor, just one more addition
on that that actually was codified by the legislature as well. So, what we're really doing is following the what the new law says that the municipalities are permitted to do now. Great. Great. It's it's um it's um I think uh something everybody can agree
on. um and and it also um codifies the the walkways to stay uh clear for a handicap um resolutions and contracts. So, this is going to be by consent
just meaning they're going to be all grouped together in one vote. Uh and I'll go through the items. Um uh first is 2025-220. This is um authorizing no parking and suspension of open containers during
special event funky pickle vent that classic on July 26th and if necessary the rain day of July 27th. So this is something just as a heads up to Maria. I will not be here this year for that. So you're going to have to partner up with the mayor to take on Margate to keep the
commissioner's cup. The commissioner's cup is in my office. If you are willing to uh to appoint a ringer of some kind I don't know if that's allowed. I don't know. We can swear someone in for the
Yeah. Right. for the event. So that that Lance and I won that from the city of Margate last year. So all right. We'll swear them in for the day. Vertica. Oh, right. All right. So, we'll make
sure we cover that. Important. Need to embarrass myself. Um, you do that. You don't need to you don't need to schedule an embarrassing important. I think the fire department and plays their police department, our public works. It's a whole thing.
Yeah. Yeah. We go through the departments and um fun day. Yeah, it is. It's a It's a really good event. Brings a lot of people out. Um and it makes that that really energizes that de that area. Um moving on, resolution 2025221.
Um this is authorizing disposal of surplus property. So we have a handful of of property from various departments that's getting auctioned off. um surplus. Um 2025-222
is a resolution authorizing purchase agent to publicly bid the custodial and sanitation services for the city of Ventner. So this is uh this is actually the the this building u the the annual contract is being put out to bid again for uh for in for the janitorial service
here. Uh 2025-223 is requesting approval of special items of revenue revenue and appropriation. Do you have any um and the third grants things that we have to recognize? The first one is uh for the alcohol education
alcohol education $9808. And I think is uh related to Tim chapter public and private programs um having to do with let me see what is this
for fatal crashes project 2.1 or 2100 I'm sorry 2100 so this would be police right um so this is care pack so this is the um deduction enforcement for fatal crash for fatal crashes
so I'm sure you're familiar with Yep. Great. Think we do every year. Yep. Thank you, Lisa. All right. Um, next would be um F. Sorry, I lost my place. Uh, this is
uh 2025-225 issuing of a tax refund, which is um pretty common place. Uh 2025-226 is uh accepting the retirement of Tom Halpin. Uh his last day will be on the
30th of this month. Um he's a uh has has been a uh his career has spanned many years here. I'll get the the details. Um and I plan to visit him on his last day. He's just a perfect fit for the um for the fire
prevention side of this. uh worked mo mostly with businesses towards the end and he's trained um he inherited that office and has made it much more uh efficient and effective. Brought in um uh uh the the issuing of uh of you know
it is part of his job issuing of fines on a mobile way that uh saved the city a lot uh in in time and in in stamps basically over the years. Things like that. He's just a he's just been a a pleasure to work with and uh and and and
uh held the held the line in terms of safety, public safety for large restaurants and and and and events. So, I wish him well in his retirement. Agreed. Not an easy job. Not an easy job. You're not wellliked by some some folks that don't want to follow the rules, right? And Tom was the guy that that made you
follow the rules. That's what he needed to do in that job. You're protecting life and limbs. Yep. And and properties as well. So, you look at things differently when you know that people have to evacuate a restaurant in the in a in the un in the in an unlikely event, but that that's those unlikely
events that um he's protecting us from. So, I wish him well in his retirement. Tom also sat on the planning board with us, too. That's right. Yep. Brought in a lot of good information to the planning board. Um 2025-227 uh will be appointing Joe Inazelli as
fire official. So, he'll be taking Tom's place. He's already been um uh on the planning board with us, but he will be the the new fire official in that department. Joe as well has a great rapport with all the businesses. Um both of these gentlemen are have a have a a
way about them that um that uh can't that that that um really get really gets the message across that they are they are there to enforce the fire codes of the city. I appreciate what they do. Um, so looking forward to working with Joe in that new position.
People can actually see him at all of our events. There's a food truck there with a gas tank or any kind of cooking. They're there. That's right. So they're they're there before they even open up. Yeah. Um 2025-228 is um Okay. So this is uh authorizing a
purchasing agent to publicly bid the boardwalk reconstruction project. So this has been a long project for you, Lance. Yeah. Seen it through. So, we're still finalizing some things, but this will authorize us in the next couple of weeks to go out for this bid. Uh, we
want to try and award this as soon as possible to get construction started at least somewhat this year um and into the spring. We won't do this during the summer. We'll come to a stopping point next spring before Memorial Day and we won't finish, but we'll we'll have a
stopping point. Um, right now we're picking some details. lights. That's become a big thing with Ed and I working on the lights, right? You know, do we want to keep the 35 foot tall ones? Do we want to have lower ones? Right. The problem there is if you have a two-story home and how the light is right in front of you at 24 ft,
it's right in your window. It's right in your window. So, but at 35 ft, sometimes the boardwalk's not quite lit well enough. I agree. So, we're trying to find a happy medium. Yeah. So, we're we we walked today and looked at some locations um as to where the
lights might be added. We have a a lighting expert on the on the team that's designing it for us through Delasio's engineering company and they'll be giving us some recommendations. We're Ed's going to go back to them, give us some more, you know, do we want more poles with lights
closer together at lower level or do we want to keep them up high and make them brighter, which is not always the best idea. Yeah. So, that's might not be good for the wildlife, right? Or well, it'll help the, you know, the owls and stuff catch the bunnies at night. So, Foxes.
Foxes. Yeah. Um, so that's we're working through it. Again, this is going from from where to where we're going to start at Jackson and we so we got 750 million 7.5 million from the state um to do as much as we could.
That would have gotten us about halfway from Jackson to the pier. So then last year we authorized another 7.5 to get us the rest of the way to the pier. That does about half of our boardwalk. to the pier. Yeah, that's where we're going to try and get to. Uh we think we can with those dollars. And this isn't just
decking. This is the entire boardwalk. This is pulling up piling. This is everything. It'll be a totally new boardwalk. Most of those piles have been in the ground since 1964. So, they're they're they're in rough shape.
You're not remodeling because you're choosing to remodel. You have problems. We have we have failures every year in these pilings and and the underpinnings to the boardwalk. It it's if you look at it from a level it's up and down and it's because the pilings are starting to fail. So it's become necessary.
It's become necessary. Yeah. And we applied for a grant with the state and got you know we were one of the few communities that got money from from the governor from the state which was nice. Um and you know we'll have to find money to do the rest of it in the coming years because it's needed. It's needed. I
would I don't know if it's part of the conversation, but I think there's as our city grows, the boardwalk is so active during certain periods of time, the in in years past, there used to be a center
lane line and arrows pointing directions on which way people Yeah, there was a bike run lane in the middle on each side with directional arrows. So, people were biking or running would be in the center, right? then we can look at that. Um just from my point of view when you see
people um the busier it gets the more congested it is if people are walking headon into on on the right hand side but it's not even when they had those there there were people four across right down the middle so that's
yeah I I get it um I don't want to be single file the boardwalk's really kind of narrow to have lanes like that look at it it's only a problem in the summers and I would definitely you know, have arrows. I think would be a good would be a good
range, but arrows. Yep. I That's great. I appreciate it. Yep. Um, one last thing, we did decide not to go with the herring bone. Oh, just saved us so much money. Yeah. Lumber and and labor. This wood that we're putting down is epip
potato. Um, the labor is labor intensive to install this this material, right? So, if we don't have to cut as much, we can get, you know, planking to go straight instead of angled. Look, I'm a fan of the herring bone, but it just was it was
a 15 to 20% savings. Yeah. Yeah. On a 14 $15 million project. That's significant. Yeah. So, we've already purchased the lumber, right? Purchased all the decking already. We did that with the with the state's money because we have to spend that money by December of next year, end of December.
So, you're doing the right way. We we purchased the material ourselves. So that took the markup away from any potential biders and it also it also spreads out the construction over time which helps us to to to pay for it over time. And then um and then I
I did a a straw poll of people would would it really would you rather have 50% more Boardwalk New right or the herring bone and they all to a person and they've all said I'd rather have 50. There was a few that wanted the hering I said you going to pay me the 20%. you got you and your buddies want to get together and chip in and they're like,
"How much would that be?" And they said, "No, immediately." 300,000. Yeah. So, yeah. No, it's not to be it's not to be trifled with. It's worth it's good. Those are the decisions that you know that I think help help us spread the spread the dollars. And we've got a design team in Delasio
that has done this in other towns. Great. They've done Wildwood. Um I think they did they did something Kate Man that's not wooden, but they've done some work down there. Other other shore communities with boardwalks. Okay, great. So, also in your wheelhouse, uh 2025-229
is a change order for the Somerset Avenue sanitary sewer replacement. Right. That that project came out great. Um all new sewer lines, water services out there. Uh it's a decrease in the contract of $44,000. Great. Um so that was a good project out there
and got new sewer and water lines and glad to hear that. Two new blocks of paved street. So that's always nice. Amazing. Yep. 2025-230 is renewing our membership in the Atlantic County Municipal Joint
Insurance Fund. Um, any comments on that? I think it's been something that has been a benefit to us uh in just not just the training, but in the coverage. We don't always see eye to eye on things, but it's been a great um uh
savings to the city in the long run. Um, so that's a renewal. 2025-231 is uh releasing the performance bond for Ventner Avenue and Little Rock Paving Project for uh an associate Calamar
Associates in the amount of 25,540. So that's a large um Yeah. What we do is once they finish we inspect it and then we can we they have to post a bond for it. Right. This was private work, right? a project that someone else did. That someone else did. Yeah, that's what
I mean. It's a large one. Um 2025-232 is um this is authorizing seasonal part-time employment as a recreation for a recreational aid, right? So, this is moving forward with another with an aid. Do we do we still need camp
camp counselor? One more we need. Oh, that's it. We're good. Okay. Yeah. looking for another side of work. Mar thinking it's just have it posted and I was sharing it. So, stop sharing. Stop sharing. Yeah, that's right. We
were both uh reposting that. Um, so I think we're all fully staffed now. Um, and then resolution 2025-233 is authorizing seasonal part-time lifeguards uh for the city of Edner. So, this is the new hires.
Um, then we have 20. Did you want to ju just just to also point out this also provides for a salary adjustment for senior lieutenant Megan Holland with the movement at the top with Chief Bergman's retirement and Chief Funk's elevation uh
Lieutenant Holland takes on some additional responsibilities and uh accordingly the chief has asked for and recommended a salary increase and that's included here as well. Right. So it would take her to $33 per hour. That's fine. Yep. Megan does a great
deal for this. Not just for the She runs that entire junior lifeguard program. She's a real asset there. If you ask any of the other guards, she's the she's the one that really runs the mechanics of the city. And then, as I see here, we have one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven, eight, nine, 10 new guards uh coming on um for this summer. um had a chance to talk to them on their first uh um roll call. Always always a good um uh
good good group of athletes and uh and and and they really are ambassadors for us as well. Rumor has it you're out there training with them. That's why video of that. That's that's why I have a leg wrap on. Yeah. Because I'm apparently not 18 anymore.
But but I held up in the uh in the calisthenics, not the run. And uh but anyway, yeah, nobody wanted me on their team after that. So I don't understand. Great school. Yeah. Picture. No, it was a lot of fun. It was good. Good. It it's a and and and actually
it's a one pro it's the one one summer job where they they encourage you to have physical uh they they they carve out an hour of physical fitness for each guard as long as the the they can manage the because there's three people in every every stand and they can because
you need these individuals to be in top condition. They they need to be over and above some sometimes we get complaints that or why are they working out? You know, our kids are in the water, but they're always manage they always manage the beach and they you you want them to have physical activity every day. Um
when they need it, they need it. They need to get out in the water quickly. Um so anyway, it's a 100% confidence in the way that that department's run. Um moving forward that was um which city
employee 234 234 is Thank you. Uh resolution um this is a revoke license for encroachment into the city's rightway um between um uh the city of Ventner and Victor
Pataglia regarding property located 8 North Victoria Avenue. I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, Ed reviewed it. They request I think this was steps I think because of an elevation. Okay. Um they needed as these homes go up they don't have room on the properties to put to get stairs into them. So
so it's just a frontal the front the front actual piece of property. They have to survey it, provide us a legal description. Our city engineer reviews it and then does a recommendation and we don't put it on the agenda until we get that recommendation. So Okay.
All right. Um, resolution uh 2025-235 is a refund of some camp fees that weren't able to be used. Uh, fair is simple enough. 2025-236 um is just back you up just just again just
for so that we're crystal clear what happened with these refunds on the camps is that the camp leaders that uh lowered their fees and people had paid the fee that was originally posted so they're getting a refund for the difference about
okay fair um moving forward to 20 25-236 six. Uh this is something that we all agreed upon uh to prohibit uh opposing legislation um that prohibits beach tags for beach
access. So this is and if any if you wanted to Yeah, I've been I've been kind of following this and and uh there's a senator from up north that doesn't seem to think that beach tags are are needed in our in our shore communities. Well, they don't pay for everything, but last
year we collected or this year we collected $374,000 in beach tax. Last year was 400. So, that's two pennies on our tax rate to help us maintain our beaches with raking lifeguards. Doesn't cover everything, but it helps offset
those costs. Um, user fees is what they are, right? If you're going to use something, you're going to you're going to pay for it because we have to maintain it. Um, so there's there was a push and this one was even more ridiculous. It said this has to deal with surfers. Surfers, we don't bother. If you're in the water, we
don't go out there and chase you down for your beach tag. But if you're surfing for an hour and you come sit on the beach for two hours, 3, four hours, whatever, you have to have a beach badge, right? Um, this was to say that, you know, at recreation beaches, which how do you enforce that?
Where's where's a beach that no one swims? Granted, you I sit at the surfers beach and when I go in the water, I go down to the lifeguard and we go in the water down there. But the surfers are going in and out, but they sit on the beach all day. When the waves come up, they run in. So the guys in the morning,
they don't have to have, you know, there's there's a faction when the waves are up in the morning or in the evenings, guys will run down there and go. They don't need beach badges if they're just going in the water. But if you're going to set up a chair and and sit on the beach on a towel or whatever, we think you should have a beach badge.
and just to try and enforce that would be yeah impossible, right? So, we're we're we're looking to oppose that that um legislation. I think also perhaps not having beach badges can cause um big
groups to hit the beach for parties, let's just say, right? Yeah. So, there's a little bit of of uh it's, you know, after after Right. type of possibly. Wildwood Wildwood has free
beaches, right? The issues that they have on their gatherings down there. Yeah. Yeah. I I think just I don't think it to me it doesn't go any deeper than the fact that it's a user fee and that you know uh we try to be as as as conservative with our our incomes as we
can and try to bring in more revenues that are not just on the taxpayer and this is one of them. So and our beach badges are pretty reasonable down here. You go up the deal they're $80 a season right per person, right? That's another good point, Tim. I I know
sometimes people if you look at social media, why do I have to buy a beach badge? I collect I pay taxes here. True. But if if you don't have beach badges, then you don't have everybody visiting paying the beach badge also. So then it's solely on the taxpayer, right, to
fund lifeguards and anything else having to do with and every day tripper that the use that that that the that the beaches get are solely on the taxpayer. So it's it's it's it's not too hard to justify. We're not allowed to, I think, under
Green Acres, is it to charge one group and not charge another group. Correct. That's Green Acres. I think that's just state law. Yeah. Can't you can't charge one group more than another. It's a Right. It's equal protection under the law. Yeah. So, um I think we're all in agreement
that we oppose the legislation to that that prohibits uh beach badges. Um and then the last resolution uh by consent is 2025237 and this is extending the janitorial maintenance contract with the existing
provider so that we can have a gap in between um who whomever wins the next contract and the end of their contract extending it through August 31st. All right, any questions any of that? No. And then we'll have bills and payroll.
Uh we will have just some one discussion item and see that we're gonna move that into that into into executive session. Uh so no discussion items. Uh we will have an executive session. So at this point um
vendor city commission welcomes participation of any interested organizations or individuals during the workshop period. Um, so if you have any comments on any any of the resolutions that we discussed so far,
um, I ask you to come up to the mic, state your name and address. You have a limit of 3 minutes. There will be a portion at the end of the, uh, regular meeting for you to discuss anything that you like. Uh, as long as it in relation to Ventner, but at this point um, uh,
make a motion to open public portion. So moved. Second. Roll call, please. Commissioner Langra, yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Creel, yes. So, anybody that has any interest in anything that we talked about so far
on the Zoom platform or is there anyone that wishes to talk about any of those resolutions or ordinances? Anybody on Zoom wish to comment on any of the items that have been discussed so far? No hearing. None. I have a motion to close
public portion. So move to second. Roll call. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Can I have a motion to close the workshop portion of the meeting and call to order the regular portion of the meeting? I'll make that motion. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Mr. Lancra.
Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Got a motion to approve minutes of April 10th, 2025 regular session. I'll make that motion. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable.
Yes. Can I have a motion to introduce ordinance 2025-109? We're pulling that. I'm sorry. We're pulling this ordinance. So, no motion necessary. We'll move on to uh item 18. Thank you. 19. N. Yeah. Item 18.
Oh, 18. Yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry. Public hearing. Um, can I have a motion to open public hearing of 2025-014 bond ordinance for various 2025 general capital improvements as described earlier in the workshop session?
I'll make that motion. Second. Have a roll call. Lisa, yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Cable. Yes. May I have a motion to adopt? We got Oh, motion. Oh, I'm sorry. Public.
Sorry. Any public questions or comments on the ordinance providing general capital? Any on the Zoom platform? Anybody on Zoom wish to comment on this ordinance? No.
No. I have a motion to close the public hearing on ordinance 2025-014. I'll make that motion. Second. I have roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Thank you.
Now, may I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-014 bond ordinance providing various 2025 general capital as described? I'll make that motion. Second. I have a roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Lang Grant. Yes. Commissioner Mento.
Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Can I have a motion to open for public hearing bond ordinance 2025-015? Again, this is for uh various capital for utility 2025. I'll make that motion.
Second. We have a roll call. Lisa, Commissioner Langra, yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Kel, yes. Anyone from the public wish to comment on the bond ordinance that is uh various
utilities? Anybody on Zoom wishes to comment on this ordinance? No. I have a motion to close public hearing on bond ordinance 2025-015. So moved. Second. Roll call. Lisa, please.
Mr. Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Can I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-015 bond ordinance as described for utility capital? So moved. Second. Lisa, may I have a roll call, please?
Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Have open public hearing. I have a motion to open public hearing on ordinance 2025-016 amending chapter 171 article 3 and
171-7. Make a motion to open public hearing. Second roll call, please. Commissioner Langra, yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Kel, yes. Any public comment on ordinance 2025-016?
This is the hours of construction regarding pile driving. Anybody on Zoom wish to comment on this ordinance? No. No. Hearing none. May I have a motion to close public hearing on ordinance 2025-016?
So moved. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Can I have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-016 as described? I'll make that motion. Second.
Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Kboel. Yes. A motion to open public hearing for ordinance 2025-017. This is uh uh code for uh bicycles,
roller skates, and skateboards on on boardwalk. I'll make that motion. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Any comments on bicycle hours on the boardwalk from anyone in the chambers or
on Zoom? Anybody on Zoom wish to comment on this ordinance? No. Hearing none. I have a motion to close public hearing on ordinance 2025-017. So moved. Second.
I have roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-017. I'll make that motion. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes.
Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. Have a motion to open public hearing on ordinance 2025-018. Uh this is ordinance pertaining to outdoor dining and premises expansion. I'll make that motion. Second.
A roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langra. Yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Kel, yes. Any anyone wishing to make comment on ordinance 2025-018 regarding outdoor dining and premises
expansion? Anybody on Zoom wish to comment on this ordinance? No. No hearing. None. May I have a motion to close public hearing on ordinance 2025-018? Motion to close. Second.
Roll call. Lisa, please. Mr. Lang. Yes. Mr. Mento. Yes. Mayor Kel. And may I now have a Yes. May I now have a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-018. Motion to adopt ordinance 2025-018.
Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Lang Grant. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. All right. We're down to the motion to adopt resolutions by consent. I have a motion to adopt resolution 2025-
220 through 2025-237 by consent as described earlier in the workshop. I'll make that motion. Second. Make roll call. Lisa, Commissioner Langra, yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Kel, yes. Lisa, would you read bills and payroll,
please? So we have pay two payrolls June 8th through June 21st in the amount of $698,78524 payroll from 622 through July 5th 2025 in the amount of $818,4545 and we have bills in the amount of $6,451,964.
Thank you. I have a motion to approve bills and payroll. Please make that motion. Second have roll call. Lisa, Commissioner Langra, yes. Commissioner Mento, yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. I have no announcements or safety reports. Uh, we have any commissioner
comments or reports? Mayor Lang. Um, just I mean I I guess we've had a meeting since the stage opened up, but I might not have You were there. Yeah. Yeah. I was at the the first time I got to see the stage in use was on the July 3rd um Independence Day celebration.
Came out fantastic. Just the the sound coming out of it is so much better. Um musicians loved it. I talked to all those guys from the exceptions. They just loved it. Um even our sound guy who helped us design the the sound setup a little bit. You know, he with bigger bands, he could
move the stuff out and put it off the stage which really helped out. Huge for because they're a big band. Um the reception from folks was just great. There's some growing pains there. We're not done. We still have to do some landscaping. I talked to Rick about what we're going to do out there with some landscaping. We're working around and we
added for um July 3rd and then again on July 5th the blue mats down in front of the bulkhead there. That's great. We're going to expand upon that for next year. Met out there with Ed today and we're going to do some different things there a little bit um to make that a little bit better access for for folks
that that can't walk on the sand so well. So, either wheelchairs are just unstable. We're going to try and do that. Um, the we had a crowded city for the holiday, more crowded than I've ever seen it, I think. Um, it was just it was great to see and I think all departments
handled it as as good as we can could have. Um, PD was busy as heck. I'm sure your radio was going crazy. Um, fire department, public works was was picking up trash everywhere and trying to keep ahead of everybody. Um, just everybody, even folks in city hall. I mean, it was
just a busy busy week here in the city. So, kudos for everybody doing what they had to do to keep us, you know, our head above water. Um, touching base on the storms and street flooding. Got a lot of issues with that storm on Tuesday night. Uh, my flight was actually delayed that
night, so I came home the next night. Um, but I was getting all the phone calls and emails and things about streets flooding. When you live on an island, we do not have storm water basins. When you live on the mainland, you have big holes in the ground that hold water. Storm water management,
that's what they do. They they hold the water back so it doesn't flood out streets. We don't have that luxury here. So, our streets function as our storm water basins. Um, we have pumps in most locations that do catch up eventually. Um, one of the capital projects we're going to be working on is the next phase
of of Bolton Avenue, increasing that pump as well as Fremont Avenue. If you live in and around Ventner Gardens Plaza, you've noticed a huge difference of how the water backs up there. It doesn't anymore. We replaced the 12-in corrugated metal pipes that were in the
ground for the last 50 plus years with reinforced concrete pipes that are 30 in in diameter. It moves the water faster out to the bay. As long as it's low tide, we're good. It just it flows out. I got a call from um Geanna Ross. I You
guys know Ken and Georanne Ross, I think. Um, I've gotten two calls from her. The first one after the first storm, they weren't even finished the project yet. And it it her street didn't flood. So, we're working towards making it better, but when you get an inch, two inches of rain in a in a couple hour
time period, our streets are going to have water in them. You live on a barrier island. There's nothing we can do about that. We are trying to play catch-up with them. Um, we have pumps that will pump the water out once the rain stops and the tides are down. But if the tide's up, you're pumping that
same water. It's coming in, it's going out. So, there's not a whole lot you can do about it. We're working on it. So, we'll we'll make things better as as we get along. It's it's costly as you can see from some of the projects we've been doing. Um, lastly, um, I'm going to attend a meeting on Monday about an
update on the New Jersey pack rules. Uh they sent out a invitation late and we we didn't even get it. We got it through our one of our consultants, Jim Rutella sent it out um Monday. I'm going to from what I understand from from Senator Palina's office, it's just an
update. It's not they're not changing anything. They're going to tell you where things sit. They have to adopt these by August or they they have to wait till the next next um governor comes in. That's what we're hopeful will happen that they do not adopt these rules. These rules will shut down
development on along the coastline. Um they will require homes to be elevated another five feet from base flood elevation. So right now after Sandy or you had to elevate I think it was three sometimes four feet in certain locations. They're going to add another
5T to that. We had an application tonight for to put steps into the street. We're going to have a ton more of that. You won't be able to get in these homes if you have to elevate them another 5T on the islands. And it's not just single family homes that are going to have to comply with this parking
lots. These rules require to elevate a parking lot 5T above base flood elevation. If there's 5T of water on this island, we're not here. Nobody's parking. They're they're they're the rules that are based on false or
inaccurate information. I won't say false, inaccurate information, dated information. Even the college Ruters University that put out the study recanted half of the study they put out. So it it's it's the D and they are they
didn't follow the legislative process to pass these rules. They went through a rulemaking process on their own and they're ramming it down our throats. Um the governor and his and the D are trying to ram it down in his last six months of of his office being in office.
So we're monitoring it. We've objected to it with a lot of the shore communities. Uh we've passed resolutions. We've had them here to explain to them why we object to these rules and they just haven't been listening. Um one of the things I brought up at the last um meeting with
uh with the D and actually I brought up at a DCA seminar on affordable housing. They're not going to be able to build affordable housing in these areas because of these rules. It's going to be too costly. So they disagreed with that. I said, "Well, you've got all the
homeowners, home home builders in the room objecting to this because it's going to be too costly, but you say that it's going to work." So, we've been pushing back on it. Um, and we'll we'll see where it goes. But I'm hopeful that it does not get passed in August because then we'll have a different
administration in either side. Whoever wins, we'll have to to look at it and see what they want to do. So, I'm hopeful it doesn't pass. That's all. Got on a soap box there. I apologize. Okay. You're it's part of your world and we appreciate your take on it and your expertise um in looking out for the
veterary residents. What's their motivation for this? They they actually think they're protecting it. It's it's protection. It's repetitive loss. Repetitive loss. It is some of that. It is FEMA. But these go above and beyond FEMA requirements. Yeah.
By five feet. Um so it's it's almost a retreat from the shoreline. They're trying to push people back. Right. That that's what I think it is. It comes out of if you remember after Sandy there were these um you have green acres. So there were folks that coming out with
what they call blue acres where you would buy up repetitive loss properties and they would just be ended up be open space. Um there's there's a lot of homes that that took advantage of that. I guess they got paid out and they just left the vacant lot, tore the house down. Brigintine actually took advantage
of it by putting a pump station on one and they weren't even allowed to do that. can't do anything with the lot. So, it it's I think it's it's a it's a mixed thing trying to reduce insurance costs and payouts, which I get. I
understand that. Um but I think uh there's better ways to do it. So, or incrementally. Let me ask you a question. If this goes through without opposition, then if somebody does more than 50% of the value of their home,
right, improves it, they are required to raise their house an additional 5T above the FEMA level. So, it almost puts a strangle hold on renovations. Absolutely. Right. And we were one of the first towns down
here to allow that that 50% rule to go in effect every year. Right? It was a 10-year thing before. So, I wouldn't have been able to renovate my home under that. Right? A lot of folks that we see coming to the planning board wouldn't be able to do the renovations that they're and even in the construction office without
variances wouldn't have been able to do that. Now, this is going to make it even harder, right? So, what's going to happen? They're going to tear down the old homes, right? They're going to tear them down. Renovation could be a kitchen remodel, not necessarily adding uh Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. It could be
anything that's more than 50% of the value. Now values have increased but you you add up siding and a renovation so prices. So the metric is is not in the favor of somebody that wants to renovate. It's as you say it's either put your keep your house in jeopardy I
guess or not not to renovate or to tear down and rebuild which it seems like it's a a swung the pendulum too far in one direction. Agreed. Right. So I appreciate you going to that meeting and voicing your concern for the city. It's remote so it's easy enough. Yeah.
Good. Good. Uh, Commissioner, um, Mento, sorry, Lance, you were Commissioner Lingraph, you were talking about Mats for the handicap. I think we're adding two more parking spots also. Is that correct? Does that bring us to seven handicap
parking spots where at Newport? Yeah. Okay. And and some of them are temporary, right? During during the concerts, there would be three on on Atlantic Avenue. That would be temporary. Yeah,
there's already two in the parking lot behind the library. We would add two additional temporaries there. So, that would that would give you four plus three gives you a total of seven. Seven. Okay, good. All right. So, as um
Commissioner Langraph was telling you, we had um a great concert and great fireworks. you're and on a great new stage and we uh estimated about seven to 8,000 people here. Wow.
Uh for the July 3rd concert and for the fireworks that followed, it was uh everything seemed to go smoothly. Um nobody was asked to leave. I don't think we had any issues. Oh, and I it was uh it it was a really great night. I I felt and it seeing everybody
enjoy themselves actually brought tears to my eyes sincerely because it was it was just so wonderful to see all the people come out and really enjoy themselves and the city was really crowded. So we had three concerts the holiday week. We had the Wednesday, we had the July 3rd where we celebrate for
July 4th and then we had the normal Saturday. So the city normally has concerts every Wednesday and Saturday through the summer. So, the next events coming up. Um, let's see. What do we got here? July 14th is the Red Bull Surf and
Rescue at Cambridge Beach from 4:30 to 8:00 p.m. So, that's coming up. That's that's a really big event for us to have. It was originally done in Atlantic City. It's going to be a number of different um lifeguard um from all over from all over the east
coast uh that compete on in um in really um unique Red Bull um different events a lot like our gouties that are based on actual rescues and they because it's Red Bull they winners usually get a jet ski
in Longford or something for the city. Longford's won two twice. Longford's got a lot of jet skis. They have a lot of good swimmers, too. If anybody wants to go out watch this. Yeah. Is Cambridge Avenue where to go or or can you spread out?
Mainly Cambridge Avenue. Mainly Cambridge Avenue. Yeah, it will likely be filled with uh drones and things of that nature. Lots of lots of It should because you're going to have people from all of these. I I I forget the number, but it's a it's a large number of other competing events from
other cities in the in the nearby area that are going to compete in these rescues. And you mentioned drones. We had a visiting someone visiting us here who has family here that did some drone footage of the of the concert and the fireworks. And it's going to be sprinkled on our
Facebook page, I believe. Yeah. It's like amazing what he what he did. Yeah. Um so it's worth a look at. Then August 5th, we have National Night Out. That's moved to Ski Beach. It used to be at the library on Newport. That's from 5 to 8:00 PM.
On August 6 is our concert and it's also a hurricane preparedness event. That's at Ski Beach. That's a Wednesday. And then we also have the lifeguard raises races. It's a women's event um at headquarters on Salt Lake Avenue. That's on August 6th.
August 6. Yeah. And then we have, you know, we'll have a meeting um prior to the next set of events. So, I won't give you the rest of them, but I can't believe I'm talking August. Where did the summer go? Yeah. Um I don't know. I don't like this. June was terrible. June was terrible. We had terrible weather.
Yeah. I I just can't believe we're into the middle of July just about. So, um that's pretty much it for events and I really don't have anything to say about uh finance or tax. Everything's
just moving along like it normally does. Great. Um, I'm just going to pick you back on the 4th of July, 3rd of July. Um, the, uh, the police department, the fire department worked together seamlessly. They really kind of, uh, figured out how to keep the, the pier as
the ideal location. Uh, we had five officers manning that section. Um, took almost two hours to load everything. And then we, uh, close off the second gate and reopen the pier for the public. We uh the police department took care of
making sure the public was notified on uh social media that it was back open. Um and then uh helped facilitate the unloading. The fireworks was also a second the second location that um we had uh all of our our specials and
another four additional officers uh called in to make sure that the um the concert was cleared and maintained in in a safe manner. Um and then the fire department of course uh was there to monitor everything. They pull hose just
to make sure in case anything happens uh on the boardwalk. Um, so we've really kind of ironed out that and I think it made a great location to view the fireworks. Um, um, but the weekend itself, as everyone said, um, was very busy. We had over the long weekend 476
uh total cases. Uh 106 motor vehicle stops, 20 car accidents, 96 parking issues, and some other that's on top of the normal issues that we deal with of um in the in the police department. um
or in addition to um we had a number of speeding complaints that we um on um uh on Dorset Avenue and uh and Winchester which were um uh due to call due to volume. Um five radar details were
generated on that. Um only one reported violation. Uh we had a number of smoking on the beach vi um calls. We've been actively trying to um keep the smoking on the beach um curtailed. There have been some specific beaches where people have called about that. So, we're
creating a detail to go there, but we ask people if they do have a problem with that that to call in the um the non-emergency line. And um yeah, and then um a number, as I said, of uh 96 in 3 days of parking issues. Parking was
definitely a issue over the weekend, but overall no real major issues. No major accidents that were that were large. 20. Yeah, that's what I said. 20 accidents. Um, one right in front of my house and down the road. A bumper off of one of
the police cars got hit the same third time for that same particular car. Um, so it's it's a busy town that I don't think uh are bike patrol uh active on the boardwalk. six bike patrol cases um uh for uh for for for the specials that
are I think showing that. But I but like you all got um a lot of great feedback from uh their their the police uh presence and um um I think I think there's been more of a presence with them out there this
season. Or maybe I'm just paying attention more. I don't know. But I'm seeing the police your police. No, we everywhere. There's more at the concerts. There's more in the boardwalk. Yeah. No, we we we increased the the specials this year. It's more there there are more there there more shifts of the specials which are the first line
for people that for the for the for the types of um uh you know the the quality of life things like the smoking and the boardwalk and the and parking and friendly. But of course I'm not riding an electric bike on the boardwalk or my dog for a walk. They're they're very friendly.
They Yep. We train them. Yeah, we train. They're definitely go through a training period and they have a great um a great system of training. They're one of they're trained to deal with the public to make sure that they're professional and there are um you know there are ambassadors. So I thank you
for that. Um I guess two two other things to talk about. One police department related. We are already in the process of creating a substation out at our firehouse department that's going forward. I think it's a very very easy lift to have uh a dedicated workstation
for two for them to be out of the weather. They're prepared for emergency bridge closures. They also have the ability to have lunch breaks and a facility out there when they need it. We always have two officers out there, but this gives them a home base. Um and it's works within the fire department's uh
station, too. So, we're manning that with some desks. We talked Yeah. And so now it's now it's now I think it's really going to make a a a good convenience for them and especially since the the the activity has increased around the the the plaza, it's an
opportunity for them to be close by, but uh as it coincides with the issues we're having with the bridge. not that uh so I think it's it's important that we uh we have them out there if necessary but right now as everyone may have seen the the Dorset Avenue bridge is currently in
the down position and the county is working um to fix the mechanical issues uh and um and I want to support um Denny Levenson on his uh approach to restoring that bridge and not replacing it in his
statement. I think it it's it the the bridge itself I think has some character that I really um that appeals to me. But the funding that it would take and the lift to to to replace uh a bridge of that type um uh I think it's a uh it's a
it's much more uh it's would be in close to in the in the in the tens of millions of dollars. Where in his notice I think he said it would it would be inoperable for two years inoperable for two years. the Heights and Betner would be like two separate cities that you know can't you can't
can't go over the bridge for two years. You're going to Atlantic City to get over and as much as a hundred million $85 to $100 million estimate um uh where they can put it in their capital plan have it repaired over time and um and then also uh create some
maintenance and upkeep on it that I think it's needed as well. But it's architecturally a very attractive bridge, I think. And um and it's the it's the right decision for the scale of that space. And besides the mechanical, I know you reached out to the county executive about maintaining it a little bit better, cleaning it, and they're bidding that out right now.
Yeah. So, it'll be powerwashed, painted, new roofs. Yep. And then the railings will be painted. I They asked me about the color, and I thought the light blue looked good. So, I said, "Keep it." You're the color guy. Faded light blue. I thought it faded faded light blue.
Yeah. match the faded light brow. So anyway, that's a lot. Um, but that's all I have for updates. Anybody anybody else thing because I know this comes under you and and Rick is here. It's just it's very impressive how quickly these areas get cleaned up. Ski Beach and Newport
after a concert. Um, it it's like nothing ever happened there. So that's very impressive. I saw Doug like Douggee I think there was three of them running during the events. So we have minimal
less to do but we we do throw a lot of resources on it that we're so fortunate that we are people attending these events that are mindful of the conditions right and I've worked with other jurisdictions it's not the case so try to maintain
as best as we can. Then we hit it really hard. So every day we don't go home. The conditions are perfect, you know, for the the people that space the next day. It shows it does. Thank you. All right. Any other comments on
commissioner comments or reports? No, I have one very very briefly. Everybody probably is aware uh that the library has been closed for a couple of weeks due to issues with the HVAC system. Uh those repairs now, I believe, are almost
completed. Uh and it's anticipated that the library will probably reopen on Monday. Great. Yeah, I got that update today. I should have said something. Thanks, Tom. Thank you. Good. Thank you. Great to hear. Any other comments or reports for commissioners?
All right. Um at this time then we can open up uh for public comment. This is uh open up for public comment on anything related to ventner. Um so can I have a motion to open the floor to public comment? So moved. Second. Lisa, may I have roll call, please?
Commissioner Lang Grant. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. So, if you have any comments you'd like to I we just ask that you come up to the microphone, state your name and address for the record, and uh we if uh we typically have the limit to three
minutes so that we can keep the commission moving even though we've talked for more than three minutes ourselves. Um but please step forward and state your name and address. How you doing? Hi. Hi. I like the bridge, too.
Uh, my name is Jerry Claus. I live at 11 uh North Derby Avenue. I also have business in town. I have Peace Pie at 73. That's why you know me. That's right. That's right. Um, I'm here tonight with my neighbor, some of my neighbors, to respectfully
ask you to consider taking an action that we think would be really beneficial to the neighborhood and the part of Ventner that is just south of Dorset Avenue. Um, I've got a handout if you don't mind. Yes. Thank you.
So in 2005, Ventner um gave a revocable license to the p the piece of Derby Avenue that is at right at the bulkhead. Right. Okay. Uh it was given to Nicholas and
Joan DeFeo who owned the property at that time. uh it naturalized the use that they had in the property for years and years. That property that house was actually built in 1890. It was built 13 years before
Bentner was Bentner. Uh so clearly at that time what Derby Avenue was or wasn't was probably in some dispute. Um at the time the um use that they had which is one of the pictures there um and
have it here. Um, was basically a lawn and was basically a what? It was the lawn and the quit proquo for it was DeFos repaired the city bulkhead. Things went
along. Everything was fine. And in 2020, they sold to Joseph D'Angelo. And Joseph D'Angelo wanted to build a large house there. And part of his process was he had to raise the bulkhead. So he had to replace the bulkhead at that point
bringing it up to I believe nine feet. Um and probably at that time uh you guys had to sign off on that because again he was replacing some of your bulkhead. Um it is a revocable license that goes monthto monthth. It can be revoked
within 30 days. um and it is um just to be used theoretically for passive use. Somewhere between the time that D'Angelo owned it and today,
42 pilings have been put in that area. This is a You have that in here? Yeah, it's in there. Oh, Barbara took all these made these. So, we got to use them. Well, that's not right. Okay.
Obviously, there was some idea that there would be a change of use. These pilings were driven without any permits. There's no D permit or any city permit. you know uh
success as many fathers and orphans or failures and orphan these pilings are orphans. Um but irrespective of that again D'Angelo sold the property to their gen his general contractor which was Pano Builder Pano Builder has
subdivided the property and he's building two houses on the property. He's one's under construction and one is to come. Um, recently Mr. Parino has put in for a D permit. And if you look at um
an insert of what I had, you know, of what his permit is, what his site plan is, you will see that he has no use intended for the Derby Avenue strip of land that's under license. And the license runs with the land. So from
DeFeo to D'Angelo to Pano, the license is theirs. We would like you to consider revoking the license and making it a small pocket park. Simple as that. When you think about it, it is one of the entrances to town. You
come over Dorset Avenue, you make the right, you make the other right. It's what you see at the moment. You see 42 pilings. Not exactly sure why the pilings are there, but it's not really an issue at this moment. Um, and again, if you look
at the uh revocable lease, which was filed in 2005, you'll see that the recipient of the lease is responsible to remove any structures on the property. So, from the city's end of things,
there's no cost involved in getting the pilings out. It would be Mr. Parano's responsibility to get the pilings out. Uh and it would just be a great place to sit. People go to the end of the bulkhead there all the time anyhow. So uh and it
is a piece of property that's you know it's public land. Uh it is an area when you think about it that is underutilized in terms of public access for the inland waterway. There's the Winchester spot that's you know north of uh Derby. Uh
there's ski beach, but there's nothing right in that area where you can just go sit and look at the bridge after they paint it blue. So Lily, so you know, it's it's light blue. Light blue, light blue,
black, light blue. So um it's really a pretty straightforward thing. There's no long-term thing. There's no there's no necessarily real cost to it. Obviously, it would have to get cleaned up in some way. The pilings aren't going to be pulled out completely, but they're going
to have to be dug out and cut down, you know, but something's got to happen to them anyhow. So, that's why we're here. Well, thank you for bringing it to our attention. Lance, do you have any Yeah. information on this because it's a little surprising. I remember when they came in for the one house. I don't remember the subdivision.
Must have been a by property was subdivided in November of 24. I agree. I remember when they came in came in for the single large home. Correct. Mhm. And at that time the land and it was described to us by our engineer that it
was simply going to be surrounding property, a lawn with no use to it. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, that particular permit shows that, right? D'Angelo's D permit shows that. So these these homes are by rights. So
is anything done incorrectly by adding that to the you well they drove piling without piling without these? Well, nobody really knows when these pilings were driven. I can't I can't tell you that because I didn't live there then. I can tell you that uh
the bulkhead review form that was done after D'Angelo built the bulkhead, right? Uh was done in 22. So sometime between 22 and today, somebody put those pilings in. Well, I'll I'll talk to Dino tomorrow. Yeah.
I've talked I've talked to Dino about this and at the time what Dino said to me I I first brought this question up last I bought the house last year. So um it's a beautiful house by the way. It's not bad. You did the kitchen if I'm mistaken.
I was just eating there just a little while ago. One of my favorite homes on the island. It's a it's an amazing home. It's an amazing home. Um but anyway, those there's no permit for those pilings. So, how they got there, I have no idea. What
I do know is that the recipient of the lease, according to this revocable license, I should say, is the person that is responsible for removing them if the city decides they need to be removed. Something should be done with them. They're not a part of a D permit
and they're not part of a city permit. I open the city records. They don't exist. Okay. I'll take a look at it with Dina tomorrow and report back and we'll we'll try and but but the real issue isn't for us really isn't the pilings. I mean the pilings are going to have to go one way or the other. It's the idea of just
having a nice pocket park at that little spot. I like that idea. I do too. Park on the other side. Yeah, those are the current conditions. If if you look at people do go sit there parks a pump station sit there. There's over 40 pilots there.
Yeah. Yeah, they do sit there. We could sort of walk over there and see. Yeah. No, I know that I know the corner very well and it's um it it's a good idea. I I support it as well. Um and you is your contact information on here so that when we do when Commissioner
Langraph get to Dino, he can get a hold of you. Yeah, sure. I'll get it. Yeah. Find it out before before I leave. Thanks for bringing this up. Sure. I appreciate you. And is that what the rest of the group here is? I noticed some familiar faces from the neighborhood. Actually, it's small town.
So if you want to just if you did want to say anything on the record here this this white line that goes to the bulkhead approximates the end of the propert and the other line represents the pure head. So the land on the other
side of that is subject to just Yeah. I'm sorry, but you have to say your name and uh we and your address. It's a thing. I am Barbara Hughes Sullivan. I live at 23 North Cornall Avenue. All of us here
represent the the houses that are on either side of the the construction being built. So, we are directly impacted by the visual, you know, and everything there. Sure. So, I'd be happy to send you the contact information. I have everybody's if you want everyone's, I'd be happy. Or just Jerry's.
Jerry's and yours. I have yours. So, yeah. I'm a big proponent of open space and this we all have uh three-foot setbacks on our homes with and we all manage the same five pieces of sod you know that we have as a lawn. So if we can give people and we have the beaches
but there's uh if there's a place for us to get um you know to have some open space I'm in favor but let's get to the bottom of what happened first. All right. Any other uh comments, public comments for
um anything related to Ventner City? Zoom. No. Any Zoom comments comment on any items? Please make yourself known. No. Hearing none. Can I have a motion to close public comments? Oh, one more late
entry. Hi, I'm Peggy Kavanagh. I live at 25 North Corn Cornwall Avenue. Uh I I would just like to see a trash can in the Cityard parking lot. Um we live right next door to the parking lot and I am
constantly picking up people's trash for people that like uh crab and whatever. You know, they pull up and they crab in the parking lot. We'll do that. Um and I got the thumbs up from our superintendent. So he's doing it. Please. Yeah,
that's an easy one. Okay, that's my spot. And I'm also with these guys because we look at that property. So, yeah. No, appreciate it. That's uh you know, boots on the ground. And um and again, your house 19 when was
your house built? 1907. If anybody doesn't know, it's called Derby Hall. It's one of the most attractive homes in the city of Ventner. It's a one. It was originally a clubhouse for a for uh men that own men and women that
own speedboats in the area, right? It was a It was a It was a clubhouse, if you will, and now it's one big giant beautiful home. Yeah. That overund 20 years old. Y Yeah. I hope to make it that long.
Keep Yeah, it has good bones. So, hearing no uh no more public comment. Um, a motion to close public comment. So moved. Second. Wait, there's some here. Oh, if they're going to come on, they got to come on. They can't I don't know who that is.
Yeah. So, anyone in the Zoom platform, we need you to um u come online. Uh we can open up your microphone and give your name and address if you have to if you'd like to comment. Good evening. Uh this is Dave Ramsey. I
uh from 6009 Winchester. I was just leaving a message in the chat saying that I was in support of uh of Jerry's um request. That that's all. Very good. Thank you. Thanks for your comment. Anyone? Uh so I believe that's enough
calls for comments unless anyone else has comments. Motion to close. Motion to close. Second. I have a roll call, Lisa, please. Commissioner Langri. Yes, Mr. Mento. Yes. Mayor Creable. Yes. So, at this time we have an executive
session um which we kindly ask the public to leave. Uh so that and we have a short statement to read for executive session and the Zoom platform will be shut down. The New Jersey Open Public Meetings Act permits the d discussion of certain
matters within an executive session. as an exception to certain provisions of said law. The Ventner City Board of Commissioners wishes to discuss certain matters which qualify as exceptions in executive session. No action binding upon the board of commissioners will be taken within executive session and the
discussion conducted in close session will be disclosed to the public when legally permitted and when the public interest will no longer be served by keeping such matters confidential. The matters to be discussed are potential litigation, attorney, client privilege.
We're back from the executive session. During the executive Oh, Jim. Yeah, you should take them. Sorry. There's nobody in the waiting room, so you're good to go. During executive session, we discuss topics covered by the attorney client privilege as well as contract or negotiations for pending or anticipated
litigation. And then that's it. Thank you. Um, may I have a motion to adjurnn? Move. Second. Roll call. Lisa. Commissioner Langraph. Yes. Commissioner Mento. Yes. Mayor Kel.
Yes. 59.