Just read that and then you can pull the first. >> All right. So, no video and you are on and it's recording. >> Okay. Thank you. >> No, it's all one thing. I'll discuss all of that. Good morning. Please take note um that
the mayor of the township of Verna will hold public meetings for the department hearings for the 2026 budget per NJSA 4069A-45 on Monday November 24th 2025 at the Vernon Township Municipal Building 21
Church Street Vernon New Jersey 07462. like to first begin with the admin mayor and council legal engineering technology boards and commissions. >> Okay. So for general ad uh
administration um salary and wages is going up but that's contractual. Um in the OE OE we increased for
education and conferences went up a little bit. We went up in technology because of contracts that are going up on those. We went up on service contracts because
um they are increasing and that's it on ours. So our administration grant total will be $354,450 for mayor and council.
um salary and wages stays the same and so is the O and E. There's no changes on the mayor and council's budget for legal services engineering and technology.
It increased due to the bond council had to go up and uh litigation for labor attorney went off.
So that budget is $32,000. Um engineering services is staying the same and technology is also staying the same. Commissions and committees. Everything on commissions and committees
is also the budget is staying the same at $14,000. I'm good on that. >> Good. Thank you. >> Y >> I think we may try to increase the technology. looking for a
an application, but we'll see if the uh SDL can come through first. >> Okay. >> Okay. The clerk, >> you can come up front, side, wherever you want. >> Budget stayed the same from last year.
Um except for salaries. Um that's contractional. Um the only line item that we raised a little bit was membership and publications, $500. >> Can you talk a little bit on the membership, why that went up?
>> Yeah. Um well, every year, um the New Jersey League of Municipalities, um uh bills the townships or our membership and they go by population. So obviously ours is the highest. So I just raise
that a little bit in case they raise it. >> Gotcha. That's it. And sorry. >> Okay. >> Oh, yes. Thank >> All right. >> Finance. >> I'm going to handle finance. Got
>> all right. So finance. Um salary and wages went up. So it went up to $370,000 in their OE that went up um for financial consulting. Um it includes the audit is going to be
increasing because of the money they're taking out of debt services. Um so that increased their budget their financial budget went to 416 yeah 416,500
and then audit services went up from 49,000 to 60,000 because of the increase of the debt services. >> Okay. Can you can you um talk a bit why the salary increase in finance?
>> All right. So salary increase in finance is due to the two uh new positions in purchasing. So we have a new purchasing and a new payroll and then also we increase the amount for um a new CFO.
>> Right. Okay. >> Yeah. All right, tax. >> Good morning. So, our uh salary and wages increase, that's contractual. The only two line items that we did increase was materials by 2,000 because our mail
slicer is no longer working properly. It's like 15 years old. And the computer service went up by a,000, but that's evidence. But otherwise, everything's the same. How much is um how much is a mouse license?
>> Anywhere from 15 to 1,800 >> 15-800. Okay. And you're purchasing another one. That's that's the for the reason. Okay. That's all I have. Okay. Thank you. tax assessment. All right. >> Morning.
>> So for my department, um salaries have increased. I have two contractual employees in my department. You know, with that increase overall, our total budgets going down three and a half%. I've made some reductions in our operating expenses. Uh the most
significant one in our tax appeal. um appraisal services. This might be a temporary reduction, but we can take it now, I think, um and still be more than fine. And then just to plan ahead going forward, if we start getting more tax
appeals, we might have to increase it in the future again. But for now, I think we can do a fairly large reduction there. >> Any questions? >> No. >> No. Great. Down three and a half%. I can I can live with that
land use morning. >> Good morning. Is it a good morning sunshine? >> All right. So, salary and wages actually stayed the same as last year.
Um I reduced the education conference and seminars to from 4,000 because we had training last year to 1500 and the only thing that actually went up was the computer services that's contractual. So
>> So which one did you reduce the education? >> Yes. Everything else is exactly the same. So all in all our went down a bit this year. Thank you. One one thing. So the
I I think this year you're going to be relatively very busy with land use. Um did we budget for that just for the >> for what part? I'm sorry. >> The legal services there legal services right for the potential. I think this
year is going to be what is that? Hold on. Wait. So I left I left legal the same because mostly our professionals are paid through escrow. >> That's right. >> The applicants pay for. >> Gotcha. >> So we should be fine. I just I went by
his contract and put it in. If we had every meeting twice a month, it would be 15,000. >> Okay. Okay. Good. Thank you. building. >> So, it's flat except for the increase for
the um computer stuff which we talked about. It's the scanning of the or digit digitization of the records. Um, so there's a big increase there that was in the general
out of the general fund last year that's coming out of our budget this year. And then the other part was uh salary and wages like contractual increases. And then we have a part-time inspector
added as well. Pretty everything looks pretty flat. the the scanning. How many when when do you think that would be finished up? Well, I I don't think it ever ends,
right? Um Right. >> But but I guess the the bulk of the backlog, right? >> In my estimate would be this is about like this part of it was probably 10%
of the total volume. So >> I got you. >> Yeah. You're you're catching it up for the past, you know, 30 years or whatever. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. And you're seeing uh much better performance and everything, right? When you It's much easier to work through
when it's all digitized. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. Good. Okay. All I got. That's it. Thank you. Please. We got two guys. >> Morning. >> Morning.
>> Morning. This year, Lieutenant Hill prepared our budget for us. Uh, typically they've done that, but forecasting for the potential retirement of the captain. We wanted to get the lieutenant up and running on budgeting. So, I'm going to let the lieutenant take it away. All right. For the uh police department,
the salary and wages uh had an increase which is contractual. Um the police department overtime budget is the same as last year. Uh the police department administrative employee salaries has a slight increase that is contractual. Uh the police department college credit has
a slight decrease due to a retirement. Um, and the police department's special officer line has decreased to zero dollars due to all three specials. Uh, they retired in 2025 and the program is being discontinued.
You have any questions on the salary wages? >> N. >> Okay. Up next is the department's operating expenses. Um, all line items stayed the same with the exception of education conference seminar training, uh, which has an
$8,800 reduction, uh, and that money was reallocated to service contracts. In regards to service contracts, there is a slight increase in all service contracts plus the addition of Lexiple
accreditation maintenance fee. And there is an increase to vehicle lease interest. Uh and that line item is managed by the CFO. The other line item that has increase is our detective expenses that was allocated to $0. Uh we now obtain those
funds in partnership with the Sussex County Narcotics Task Force. That covers our operating expense changes on that. No, we and we've uh the new patrol cars, right? You say just for the the Durango.
Um they're a lot cheaper, I guess, than the than the Fords, right? So, that was just >> they came in I think it was around 3,000, >> right? And the last is our police dispatch. Uh there's only one change which is an increase for salary and wages and that's contractual and that's
the only change for salary and wages and also operating expenses to dispatch. Uh, I'll jump into animal control quick. Um, animal control is completely unchanged. Um, what we do salary and wages will help help offset those um,
salary increases for contracts. We use some of the dog trust money um that comes in from licensing for for pets. So, that's what the CFO has been doing for years and it's really helped us to maintain that that 0% increase for that. Uh, that's animal control and office of
emergency management. I'm going to handle that for our um OEM coordinator, Ken Clark. He couldn't be here this morning. I'm the deputy OEM coordinator. Um, that budget is completely the same as last year. There is no changes to salaries or to any of the OE operating
expenses or >> good. Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Chief. Just so you know, I'm still working on that JCPNL thing. So, >> I I made I made some progress. >> Okay. >> Not fully there yet. So, >> I'm gonna go over the volunteer EMS.
>> Okay. >> All right. So, for um the volunteer emergency services, their budget for the fire department and the ambulance squad um went up. There was an increase
in trying to find out where it is. Oh, in to the lease and that was the CFO had that. So, their budget um went up um on the vehicle increase uh for the lease
from 2,000 to 10,000, but that's the only change for EMS at this time. Yeah, just look at this. >> This this is the chief vehicles. Um then something must have happened
with the interest on the leases that all the departments now their leases have increased and that's probably >> good. You're up. >> Good morning. >> All right. We have a to wage increase.
Our office supply budget has gone up due to increase in rentals and violations that we've been sending out. Education that went up uniforms and allow uniform allowance went up. We got a new employee. We have
outfit with some uniforms and some of our older ones need to be replaced. computer services went up, but that's contracts. We have one that actually got a new vehicle last year that needed to be out. There's not much that needs
to be done to it. So, we're almost done with that. >> Which software are you talking about? The admins. Um yeah, the our uh computer contracts last year we went way over budget. I guess what the number we were given at the beginning of
the year wasn't the same for all the licenses that we have up there. >> I don't so I would skip I'll just text howie. >> Okay. So if you want to go to uh seniors and rec >> seniors and rec
>> Hello seniors and >> seniors and rack >> we're not there yet though right >> hello seniors and you said to me hello senior >> yeah we're not there well in Lakes you're considered senior right well I'm a considered senior over 50 and up is a senior in Lakes
>> too early >> I don't know why I move out of where they take a look at seniors at you know the 60s but >> all right well we love our seniors so for the senior budget um salary and wages went up that's all contractual
and we added $1,200 to programs just so we can provide more programming as the membership and people using the services down there is growing Um,
>> it is growing, right? Yeah. >> Yeah. No, it's growing. >> Yeah. Great. >> Love the senior center. And then people come and they're like, >> "Oh, we didn't even know this was here. This is fantastic." And >> it's very good. Very good. >> Um, and we have a great staff down
there. So, they do a lot of good work. >> And then for recreation, um, same for salary and wages. It's contractual and everything else stayed the same. I added $500 to the portaotti rental um because
just like the senior center the parts are used more than ever now. So we have to make sure we have enough facilities there for people to use. We really should I talked to Michelle about this once before. We should look
into doing some kind of B. The league had those portable bathrooms. Uh, Honda >> the trailer kind. >> I mean, you still have to have them pumped. So, I mean, >> they're expensive, but they're nice. >> Yeah. But but it would be good to um
to come with another solution down there to cut these costs out because these border jars, they cost they cost money. >> Yeah. Yeah. If we could put another set of permanent stalls in there somewhere, that would help. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully this year we we
can get some more work down there. So, >> right. You have any other questions? >> Yeah, I know the salary and wages we we we did a little bit of increase um for some of the kitchen staff that's down there,
>> right? That's their current. Yeah. And minimum wage is going up again January 1, even without that. So, >> they're minimum wage and and every you go down there and those those those women, I mean, they're rock stars down there. I mean, they're they're hard work
and >> Yeah. >> they're very valuable. They're always there. I mean, >> and they work above what they they're scheduled for every day. >> Yeah. And it and it it it helps. I mean, like I said, they they go above and beyond. They don't have to, but they do. So,
>> Right. We want to make make people happy because especially down there, right? If they're happy, then seniors will be happy. I see. So, >> they're big population. >> Yes. Yes, they are. >> Mhm. >> Absolutely. >> People are aging in place.
>> We love our seniors. So, that's all I got. >> Good. >> Thank you. >> Did you do you did you do her >> too? Yes. >> Oh, okay. Sorry. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. The porter potties. Yep. Sorry. >> Right. Thank you. >> I don't know where Howie is. Come on up.
>> Come on up. You're the next contestant. The last >> Morning. >> Morning. >> Morning. Um so the salary and wages um contractual
for Rachel the deputy. Um everything else I just moved some money around basically stayed the same. Um there's technically an increase because 2025 budget there was no um money put in
for alternate judge and the event judge layers was absent and we had to pay a judge or sick or anything. So technically it went up but it didn't go >> and we get a judge that fast. Yeah. Who who would be that judge to be honest?
>> Uh our we have a rotation protocol. So ours would be Judge Gavin from Franklin and then if he's not available that' be Judge Pico from Wanage Andover. >> Gotcha. >> Basically it >> you have quit tomorrow.
>> We do nothing. Howie said they're walking over. So that's what we're waiting on. We're good. Thank you. Lindsay, if you could um talk to Irene, find some time on my calendar today to
to meet with you. Okay. Thanks. You have the DPWs. >> Yeah. You don't want to be They only get the pilot. That's it, right? Yeah. Was there an agenda meeting?
>> No, because we were away. Here they come. Okay. Welcome. How are you? >> Have a seat. >> Right here at this one. >> Yes. >> Nice. Well, you can sit here.
>> How are you guys? >> Good. >> Morning. >> So, you have the sheet that I sent you? >> Yes. >> Within log notes. >> Yep. >> Okay. That notes? Yeah, I >> the notes I couldn't print. >> Go ahead.
>> I said the notes I couldn't print out though. >> No, me neither. >> I know. I don't know why. I tried. But so just go over the changes, the basic changes. >> Yep. We'll go start off on the front page. Uh 290 29 uniform went up only
because we have the new uh new hires. So of course that's going to go up a little bit. Then we'll drop down to 56, line painting. Again, that's the cost of the paint. Every year it goes up. 57, the boots and tools. Again, that's
up because of the new hires. So, road repair and maintenance material 60. That's up just a little bit because it cost again. Well, actually, that went down. to 90.
Well, that went down because of patching and from when I spoke with Dell on to this is that we're going to move our paving to the capital side. >> Yeah. >> So, that's why that's down a little bit there.
62 6 put it down. Oh, yeah. 61. 61 is blank again. Speaking with Dell, we opened up a new account down at the bottom. >> Yeah. >> On a separate account for Salt and Grit.
>> So that's down at the bottom on 29121. >> Yep. >> That's at 350. >> Okay. >> Wow. That much, huh? >> Yeah. Well, because uh again, we're going more straight salt. >> What is that up from? What was um what we were going with?
>> Right. That's actually >> it's down. It was 435. It's going down to 390 >> because of the salt. >> Right. >> Not buying grit now with it. >> So, and we're hoping that with the salt, it's less time consuming and less material being used
>> and Yeah. >> over time. >> So, >> and less sweeping. >> Yep. Yeah. >> I just hope the roads hold up better. >> Can't win, right? >> No. No, we can't not on SI 62 uh vehicle
lease interest. Obviously, that's all with the vehicles that we have. 65 went down to the drug test. That's an increase in cost. 70 we kept the same. That's at the uh debris
dropped. >> We Well, it says 10. Well, I don't know if you have 15. Do you have 15? >> We do have 15 on this. kept it at 10. >> Okay. >> Kept it at 10 because I went back into the account and we still have I think we're at 8,000 still left. Kept
it at that. And that's for dumping concrete and asphalt. >> Okay. >> Tree removal. I don't know if you have 40 on yours. >> Yes. >> We're going to drop that down to even lower to 20. >> Okay. >> Because of our bucket truck. So we can
do more tree work with that instead of calling the contractors out. >> Nice. >> Yeah. And that goes as per >> that's just the first year. I mean once you guys get more geared up and hopefully that number hopefully that number could didn't drop even more. But
>> well again that's depending on the calls. Yeah. >> And where we have them when you know when we need a professional come in and get >> that truck come in yet? That truck that it did come in. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just waiting on training. December 9th is training on it. They
bump this up. >> That training is that going to be for like around that training on the truck or is that training for around electric? >> That training's on the truck and everything going up and down with all that. Electric again, it's insulated,
but that's on a uh base to base thing I would say. Right. So all the way down to I'm not going to go over recycle and salaries. That's the only other one there. >> Okay.
>> Um 31024 at the bottom buildings and grounds janitorial. That's an increase because of supplies again, >> right? The only thing I would add on to that is that we are going to go away from paper
towels next year on pricing the hands-free air dryers. That's going to be all bathrooms. >> Okay. >> So, again, the first up cost is going to be a little bit, but I think we're going to save in the long run with the water and paper towels.
>> Absolutely. >> We up that just because of the grease trap, the water, the AED maintenance, and I'm looking into upgrading on our side. I don't know if you guys want it, but first aid kits and we're going to go
through synthesize. I'm going to see a price on that. So, everything it's one supplier to do all of it. Mhm. >> That's what I'm looking into because our first aid cabinets applied or approved it probably last six
years. Well, as you can see up there on 91 31691, it's at zero, >> right? >> Because of they reimburse us for all the costs. >> Okay? >> So, there's no need to put money on there if we're getting reimbursed, right? That's why it's at zero.
the VDS repairs when I'm 10 that should be due to a cost in parts 52 again 52 >> 52 maintenance of parks again cost everything is cost when we
starting to order things so How >> did you look into the uh that company that Matt that brings that container for electronics? >> I did not. Yeah. No, that's to put the
actual container over here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> If we can. >> Well, there's there is different companies. >> Yeah. So yeah, I do have one from ERC out on my desk right now where they sent me the whole brochure of just they drop it, we fill it, they take it.
>> Yeah. Um like I said, Jason from West Milford says they actually make a few bucks off of it. You know, I the other find out what the company was. Yeah. Right over there. Yeah. had that
discussion. >> Um, >> and >> yeah. Okay. Um, >> if you know, but recycling too, we talked about what you might have seen it that we're going to start charging because I talked to them about the oil. We're going to start charging 50 cents a gallon to dispose of it. >> Yeah. That's
>> that ordinance just went through. >> Yeah. So that's what we're going to start doing in >> which again this year seems to be I don't know if everybody's got new cars or what they're doing but our oil we're getting it like every month >> taken out. >> So at least we'll save a little bit with
that >> good >> or if not you know balance out a little bit with it. I didn't go over the garbage one that's in here as you can see because we don't have any numbers or anything on that. >> Okay.
>> Um Oh, let's finish this up then we'll have a chat real quick. >> Do you have anything else then? >> No, that's it. Thank you.