Municipal Court matter a defendant didn't come to court yeah they actually sent a doctor's letter they checked it it was something that you please read the meeting statement noce of this
provided on January 19 20125 at the municipal building with njs 4-7 thank you public please stand and join flag
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for call council member here council
member president herec a couple of lighter items for discussion one is a situation that I think I and I think maybe a number of
people have run into at our park Maple Grange Park and that's been the problem with getting a u a dial tone if you want to call it that making contact service service at
our park and the more I thought of that as I was watching my three children running my grandchildren running around and I'm seeing all the other youngsters uh it's not really a place where you want to be without service and I've talked to a couple of people a number of
people they've said that this has been a continuing problem uh I know that we've had the same problem along Route 517 I know we've had it along uh 515 uh it's it's just by Nature the
place that we live with the inability to gain uh contact but also that there are some uh uh Corrections being made to the problem in the sense that I think towers are
being built maybe we had can get an update is it possible for the mayor to contact the people from you know the major companies uh who are there and seeing if they could provide us with some
uh you know Pro a program or a process of what's going on and seeing if we can't get some type of uh Tower uh connections or whatever yeah well like I said the P of B's been working on that
um yeah but will that affect will that affect Maple Grange Park yes okay that's one of the main reasons they so I think they're close to wrapping that up and is this the same tower that we've been talking about for
like three years now okay okay yes the last the last time we knew that we got updated from uh you know the Board of Ed they said that that they had received the title report so now they have a survey done and they will be feed into
the zoning drawings um once the drawings are complete they'll send them for review prior to an application to the township um and then they would want Township support for it right now they're saying that this whole entire
process is they have to order environmental reports and and have NEPA approvals for zoning and they said they think they'll be ready to file all their permits and everything to the Township
in April so I did reach out to um Raymond slam who's like doing all the project for the school and he was going to reach out to the company to see if everything was still on board for that and I never he never got a response back
so right now they're saying they're looking for April to hopefully approach the zoning any idea how long it would take to construct one of these towers I mean is it six months a year that I don't have that information for you they
they go up fairly quick it said they would estimate that they would be building in Fall assuming no zoning holdups and approve a late summer and then two months to fabricate the tower is it on a public property or
private schools property so they'll get a nice lease yes MH the school owns property near Maple Grange is that what I'm hearing no this is the problem why is the school involved with the talking about Maple Grange I don't care I apparently you don't need the tower to
be there to gain service it'll cover it'll cover it probably has a coverage zone is it the property behind the dog park yeah it's the property behind the dog park so if you kind of you where the dog park it'll spread out it doesn't always work that way I live right by the
high school and they put a new tower a quarter mile away and my service is still terrible well they usually do the tests and they and they they try to cover areas that that is is blacked out for yeah like Pat mentioned route 515 dead
spot 517 might be covered is dead yeah oh guys one of the issues I forgot to bring it to your attention you and the mayor pull your mic little sorry never hear the mayor one of the things uh I just wanted
to bring to your attention we we were concerned about uh the power issues over at um at Legends and as you know we have an emergency services antenna that's on that roof uh so the chief and the
captain visited the site they disconnected the antenna because we have there's a bunch of new hotspots since that antenna's been up there uh so far they didn't see any any loss in Communications or at least for the Emergency Services part which was really
good uh because I do have concerns as to when construction is to begin at L that power will be interrupted and that we have to worry about communication so um so the good news is so far the it has
not disrupted any kind of communication to our Emergency Services uh just just to report on that but yes this new tower is supposed to cover the maple range area and another thing too
is when I was talking to Planet Network about possibly doing some kind of Wi-Fi service down by the park which can help as well so that's that's another option we can explore I I know when they when they were running their their lines they
were setting it up for that possibility so um it's just a question of what that cost would be and just executing that so I think it's something that we we should do anyway just in addition instead of
waiting for this this Tower thank you all right that leads us to our second item U the issue of a salary increase for the mayor um this has been discussed a few times at the by members
of the council uh I believe it's also been part of a subc commmittee uh action with Mr Higgins and Mrs de benedetta uh nothing has uh taken place from it other than
just a a discussion uh at this point we uh the uh what we have to do if there is a an anticipation of providing
uh some increased salary uh along those lines the council would have to introduce an ordinance to uh have the uh the the council pass that ordinance
which would provide a range for a salary increase I.E uh 20 to 30 30 to 40 whatever that might be the salary for the mayor currently is 30,000 a year so
anything would have to work along that so uh I don't know if anybody has anything new to add to the uh discussion or if they would just like to move on whether or not something should be done I I have a quick question you mentioned
a range right an ordinance for and we do ranges for our employees right but then our employees get yearly raises you know within that range so if I mean currently the the the resolution establishes a stien for the mayor and a
stien for Council Members there's no range could and I'm not saying I want to do this I'm just questioning is that an option to establish a range considering there's no built-in like Union contract prasing my understanding it is you can
put put in so then you'd have to have some kind of mechanism if you wanted to increase it to put in an increase within the range okay I was just wondering how that would work okay does anybody wish to make a motion regarding that I just have a couple
comments first um and my comments aren't much different than what they were in 2023 or 2024 when it was discussed um you know I think if you look at either mayor maraud or mayor or mayor
Burell or mayor Rossy they do all of them have put in a lot of time and that um says something about the position and what it does with that being said the argument is that you
know if you raise a salary up you'll get better candidates or more candidates and I I just I I don't see where where that's a fact you you you might get better candidates or more candidates to run that doesn't mean you're going to end up with a better person doing it
um I I am not a fan of uh doing anything right now uh I do think that the if we were to consider something I do think it should be going on a ballot in November
um which been down this road twice uh with um other councils and it's ended up on the ballot each time and I'm a firm believer and the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result that's where it's going to end up uh I
would not be a fan of passing an ordinance uh where it gets the community all riled up uh brings more negative negativity to our community you know this side that side fighting back and forth they do a petition ends up on the
ballot that's where it's you know I I would bet my bottom dollar it's going to end up on the ballot anyway if we were to do something and on top of it and I don't know if this is a question for Mr King is if an ordinance is done can that
ordinance be in a stay until January of 28 yeah no but if you to your point if you did pass an ordinance there is a if you did pass an ordinance there is a provision where the public can then um if they get the signatures put it on the
ballot and it could be if it's voted down it overrides the council's um ordinance and how many signatures is that that they need it's it's usually a percent of uh all the people came out in the last I think um election where there was an
assembly race or general election it's in the statute there's a percentage and every year it changes yeah and it can the council simply choose to put it on the ballot or does it have to be by petition by the so the the council there's certain things that the council
yes you can um put it on the ballot as well okay so we would pass there is an expense expense to that as well that's correct needs to be considered also what's the expense it's like4 or $50,000 to put on the ballot is it
really oh it's you know it's again it's a vote you have the um ballots there's a question it's it's almost like when you change your form of government you have to put a question on and it's and it's a it's a it's a vote it's another vote
because because my comment was going to be to put it on the ballot also let the people choose and put this thing to bed because it keeps coming up and we talk in circles and we get nowhere so I was going to say put on the ballot it wasn't aware it cost $50,000 even if it's on a general
election it's still that much money to put it on the ball clerk is clerk what what do you think the cost is cost just to add a question so we're putting it on a general election but to add a question to the ballot I honestly I don't know we just put you know we had loap on the
ballot I could Mar they can't hear you either could you talk so she said they put loap on the ballot I don't know it's just additional printing of the ballot the question becomes a bigger piece of paper another question you find out that yeah yeah so I mean we could compare it
to the loap then question we did have the loap recently on the ballot I honestly don't know the the the breakdown of how much it was yeah if you could find out that would be helpful I think guys is there a deadline to get that done yes and I'd have to get you that date also while
we're speaking of that is there a deadline and a possibility of going to the public to change a former government it back to the way it was that's you're talking you can address that later that's another item of discussion that's a different different
issue yeah but so my point to uh Jessica here is the public and the mayor ran knowing what the salary was discussion that it was too small started before you were sworn in it's it continued two
months after you were in office and was put on the budget retracted from the budget so now it's not in the budget but it's a discussion so it keeps coming up and it has to be decided to uh put it to bed yeah it just goes on and on and on
and if and if it's not enough to attract a full-time mayor then we need a strong business administrator who's running the town that's really what it comes out to there's the two key positions right there and some balance has to be made between that and we have a c so it's uh
probably up to the public to decide that excuse me um you you'll have your opportunity at for for the doing your comments thank you can well it's counts discussion but when you
have your comments you can bring you anything else no it's good anybody no that was it does anyone wish to introduce a motion to uh move on the
uh ordinance for for the range I think that be premature until uh Marcy were to get back us that information yeah yeah person that's so we can table that for the time being right thank you
thanks mayor would you wish your comments please again I just had um I was just curious again they over 12 years ago um when they changed the form of government I know I
know p you were an advocate of it that Vic marada take I think it was 775,000 excuse me I wasn't an advocate of changing the form of government I for of government excuse me I think this isable form of government what we did
suggest is that he take a salary that was substantial enough that he could live with and we just the number that was thrown out by another council person was 70,000 the reason why we said said it
was because we knew that that would be the only time where the public would not be able to intervene and any initiative or make any comments on it because the the salary would be sent prior to his
inauguration he chose not to do it and hence here we are thank you I guess my comments were basically part of that discussion um about the amount of hours the the responsibility and things like that so I was just I was just curious with
all the responsibility and everything even if you put on a ballot right again this is something in discussion here is you put on a ballot let's put it if you put any salary on a ballot it's going to get it's going to get shot down let's let's be real um but how does that fix the
problem of having full-time Administration right um in this form of government the roles between the business administrator and and the mayor are completely that are almost different as to how they are and if you look at
the Town ordinance here the mayor um is the supervised Rec control again section six of the ordinance supervis the care and custody of oral properties so there's a lot of
supervise of everything here um on top of we have 12 25 over 125 employees 100 sare miles of Roads 11 buildings 11 one out
no yeah ours is oh I heard something yeah everything's gone we just have to talk really loud I'm not a speak repair person I I don't know what yeah I was making a funny note okay just speak up everybody hello yeah but could they not I don't
these are well this is for that I guess we can continue even if they can um I'll try to talk Lou I don't know why so we have everybody said at Marcy's oh they looks like they came back oh they're back yeah hello hello hello
no there you go we we have 11 large uh buildings coming into town Legends project the Ryan Holmes project the SE sewer and water Expansion Project great V project in the property
development plus all the events huge chain stores is looking to come in as well so I'm just I'm just really curious how how is that to be managed when someone's part time how does that get
managed that's that's my concern to be honest that's my my one of my biggest concerns here on how that how how someone's going to uh manage over plan right um we're talking um D could
you just explain to me what what is that cost for the taxpayers um for a salary of like for the month yes for the month for the increase that 75 it was like 30 cents so it's 30 cents a month
per taxpayer per month that is that yes 30 cents and we're this is a I find it hot on a discussion to to but this is even a discussion I to be honest with you but anyway that's just
my 30 cents I guess um on that but anyway going forward um I have just another comment here the clock was ordered that's that's going in also uh we expected here in about 90 days that
gives us time to prepare the area such as electric concrete so be more information on that uh also Mindy Martin Works in our zoning he's
acting doning officer also the code official um officer um as well so just I'm happy that uh she she again like I said she's a she's a breath of fresh air she's brings a lot we already
gotten a lot of good compliments on on her approach how she works with public on violations so it's it's a good it's a good change I think that's all my oh one
other thing I have a Deborah Chase she an application for the economic development committee which is a oneyear term so I'd like to put her name into the record that's it on my
comments thank you I have a motion to open the floor for public comments I'll make that motion motion made by Mrs B is there a second moved moved by Mr Higgins all in favor I
I motion carries floor is open the public for any comments please come up St the item hi my name is Heidi L I came tonight because I understand you're
talking about salaries for the mayor and being that I work on the committee and I'm work I volunteered for uh for the committee and uh since he's been since our mayor has been they can't hear in the back I don't know I'm talking in it I some of them aren't
working mine wasn't I had to swap it there's a lot to sit from there it should be no it's not working no there a different one swap it 202 there you go there we go hello there
we there I'm from Ern and I came to this meeting specially to State my uh opinion suggestion as a taxpayer and
I'm also on the edac committee and since the mayor's been elected i' I've seen his uh his love for the job and what he's done I've seen him do things personally instead of somebody else doing it and I just can imagine the
hours that he's put in because he's he attends the meeting at the uh Economic Development and I'm sure he attends other meetings and also with all these events and all these projects coming up he's going to spend more hours and also
I believe um a lot of things are going to be happening because turning is growing there's lots of plans and he does the footwork for the council that's what I believe I see he reports to to you he tells you what's going on he he
negotiates and he he looks for ways to save money and so it takes investigation it takes a uh an aggressive move to say he's not looking at the clock to say oh my time is up so
I'm sure the hours I don't know he probably knows the hours but I'm sure is over 40 hours a week I would even say 50 plus attending events on the week his personal life and blah blah blah so I believe $30,000 is not much at all
and I think you really should use common sense that that he he should have a race and that gives him even more incentive to even work harder and I believe he will I hope you do the right thing and
just give them a raise thank you is there anyone else wishing to address Council sthy ranker Vernon s ranker Vernon just briefly I just want to make
a point about the part-time fulltime forner has nothing in the statute denoting part-time fulltime because there is no requirement mayor to be part-time or fulltime currently there's a lawsuit in with West Milford the attorney may be
aware of that uh they they're challenging the fact that the council appointed their mayor full-time and there's no category in the forkner statutes to do that so I don't believe the outcome is finalized with the suit
but I personally agree that there's not one mention in all of forner statutes for part-time or full-time and the reason is because the mayor can spend as little time or as much time as they want they want to be in the building all day that's fine it
doesn't mean it's necessary to be in the building all day every day um and to the petition um I know just a little bit about petitions not as much as the attorney does I'm sure can the council put a an ordinance on the a question
they can yes because I never not you can do by ordinance so you can pass the ordinance here for a question for the ballot yes okay interesting thank you good evening Mr Ruto good evening Mr dun dun Williamsville States came to a
lot of these meetings and I finally stopped coming part of it my son's health issues been kicking this topic down the road long time time part-time the fulltime the salary the stien my position has always been before this Council that the mayor receives a stien
he doesn't receive a salary just like the council doesn't receive a salary they receive a stien we have a full-time ba that's supposed to be running the day-to-day operations of the town if the mayor decides not to include the ba certain
topics that's on him we're paying a ba more than1 $100,000 a year for a required 24-hour work week plus attendance of meetings at the last meeting of
November you Pat um Joe tadrick and I were supposed to go to the Burger King and have a burger and we left and you didn't show up and we sat there for over 20 minutes waiting for you and when you came it was what's going on what happened he said the mayor
to be approached me in the parking lot and said I need more money I cannot do this job for $30,000 a year that was before he was even sworn in and I believe the response was well then you shouldn't have run for the
position he did knowing what the salary was and this has been an ongoing deal for two years Brad Sparta before he was even there made the recommendation that we do a 2% a year increase for 10 years
by ordinance and have it be sunsetted and specifically ask the attorney to look into it to see if that was legal if we could do that fell through the cracks never happened then we got a new attorney I believe that's correct yes
that was for Josh so it wasn't addressed again I don't know how many hours he puts in but what I do know is that we hire and pay for a full-time VA my position two and a half years ago before Bry was even the mayor was that any
additional money that was given to the mayor should come from the ba because we didn't need a 100 plus thousand ba to run the town and also to pay 50 60 70,000 to a mayor that was my position then and it seemed like the council was
kind of in agreement Mrs buer said a year and a half ago not 20 in favor I'm sorry have 20 seconds I'm sorry 20 seconds not in favor of increase Mr Higgins didn't even know that the mayor was asking for more money
before he was even sworn in so this has gone on for a long time and I think we need to rely on our ba to run the town not the mayor that's my position and I'm glad you tabled it again it gets kicked down the road I hope there can be some
resolution but what recommendation of Mr Higgins Mr Sparta was is nothing would be done for the current administ ation it would be for the forthcoming Administration starting in what year would that be 2027 now would be 202 yeah
your times up I want to make comment I never said you metri this this is this is the public sorry sir this is the public session so you're your time thank you excuse me thank you Mr thank you very
much Mr D thank you the uh I think that perhaps there might be time I don't know if tonight's the time or some other time that there needs to be a restatement for the type of bus the government that we are we are operating
under I think earlier I said it was it was deplorable I still do I think the the preferential government that we need to work here is with a uh a council manager form of
government uh using a uh a mayor strongly strongly strong mayor with a weak councel puts us at a situation where the only way we can meet is by uh
working with some type of uh agreements and also looking at the U the budget as the key vehicle for determining the way the uh the council moves uh the township
forward when this particular uh if you look at this particular form of government it is predicated on the availability of a business administrator who acts in all
cases as a uh as a an executive for the township and while the mayor does have the the responsibility to supervise or oversee his presence isn't re isn't
uh regarded as being totally essential every day uh I I it's hard to understand how a government like this would say that but if you begin to look at some of the other townships that have this form of
government then they always bring up Newark and I think it's just a poor example because there's a big difference between Vernon and Newark and the amount of problems that each of us face um and how
they try to uh bring a a person into that position position it's it's the way it is um you can't you're not really permitted to take to do away with the uh business
administrator and in the course of doing that um use that use that salary to fund another individual whether it be a mayor or or somebody else the the business
administrator is a a named individual within the scope of the government and should be involved in all business matters that apply to
the the problems of the township and how to address them and how and recommendations that should be made normally that individual reports to the government I'm sorry to the mayor and also to the council in terms of uh
forwarding a plan of action so councelor I don't know if you consider that no no I'm just we're still in Open Session public comment public comment yeah same if you um that was my
response if you I don't know if you feel that's I mean so with with regard to the administrator you have to have that position with regard to the mayor different towns do different things yeah um you please P different different towns with this former government do
different things some there's a number throughout the state that have what they call a full-time mayor uh there is no there's no specific um designation as a full-time mayor what there's a separate section of title 40 where all elected
officials salaries and benefits have to be identified in that ordinance and that's what sets someone who is considered a full- time because if you're paying uh a mayor a salary that um is significant
you expect them to be there um a smaller town um in with this former government they may not have a fulltime mayor that has a big salary so it just it depends on what form of government and each each
municipality is unique I've said it multiple times Vernon is very unique it's almost like an Atlantic City of the north where you have these major um hotels and vacation spots and whatnot so it's a little more complicated than um a
par siony um a Mount Olive um a number of other towns in Sussex County that the same former government thank you there anyone else wishing to address the council good evening everyone my name is morissa Simon um I'd like to take a
minute to address the topic of increasing the mayor's salary um so we can all agree that $30,000 is not enough to live off of right I mean that's not even minimum wage what is minimum wage anyway
15549 it amounts to 1442 if we're basing this off of a 40 Hour Work Week um and I'm sure that the mayor Works more than 40 hours a week um this is not a part-time role it's a demanding role um I think that if we are trying to get
Vernon out of its old ways and to you know something that's more attractive um we need a full-time position that's going to bring in new ideas fresh ideas
um Etc so um also I want to ask if we're gonna add this to the ballot and it's going to cost 40 to $50,000 to add it wouldn't it just make more sense to give give the guy a raise
I mean that's how much the raise would be right 40 to 50,000 one year if it's that much yeah we don't know if that that's true that's what're we have to find out it so what if if this is an off cycle if it's put on the boutot on an off cycle year then you'd have to incur
that extra money if you put it on um an on cycle year when when when elected officials are up then it would be less it would be what the low sap would be it would be the cost additional cost of the ballot I don't know what those costs would be but there is a cost to it either way find out yeah I mean if
there's a way that we can avoid the taxpayers paying 40 to 50,000 just add this question I mean that's just a lot you know um for something that I think doesn't really need to be on the ballot
um but um yeah I I think that a raise should be highly strongly considered like I said $30,000 is not enough to live off of I don't know how I don't know when the salary was even set um we surely don't live in 1980 anymore
um and that concludes my comments thank you anyone else wishing to address the council seeing no one coming forward I ask for motion to close the FL to the public move by Mr Higgins is there a second second second by Mrs de benad
all in favor signify by saying I I oos motion carries review of the bills list all members have received copies of the bills list is anyone wish to POS any
questions business administrator or the mayor please uh make your make your questions now um I have one quick question and uh I I
don't it's kind of an all-encompassing question you know how I feel about snow removal contracts yes question is yeah that's why I don't want to reash it but um but this goes for all bills not just
right the bills list that we get in January is it safe to say that those checks are encumbered in December that depends yeah that depends so um like if we have a school check it's usually
income the day I run the checks um because it's a it's a levy it's not like a a p a good or service that we've purchased um it just depends uh it depends on and if you look actually at um the end the first page of your bills list it'll tell you what accounts
they're from so if you see any like 501 accounts those are from 25 so those will be encumber and4 is that does that number carry over to underneath the checks then or no so like 501 I don't see any place
on the checks so right because my my question is it it's kind of twofold so we we're doing emergency Appropriations tonight and one of is for municipal Services which includes snal contract right but if you go back to January and add up what's been paid to the
contractors it already exceeds what that emergency appropriation is so my question is some of that money must be encumbered in 2024 so we have so we have the snow trust so we can charge a snow trust for that we also have our um snow PL our
snow removal line um that we can charge that line to so a lot of those snow pling contracts we charged to the trust because we knew that we would have money to charge to and we encumbered some in 20124 and then continued on those blanket poos through 2025 okay but that's not designated in bills of so we
know which ones they come out with no for that it would be under the other trust account so that T14 the other trust so it's like a separate there's a bunch of trust funds in that trust fund um that's like the Gen generic trust
fund each one ties a little more clear um for when the pampus so each one of the for the truck it's right there's multiple CR FS at the Town permitted to have uh but there's one cash account so each one of these ties to a cash account so that trust fund is for the trust cash
fund but there's a bunch of mods could you quickly just explain that the purpose of a trust fund right so every trust fund is dedicated for a specific Mone so we have the recreation trust fund you can only use Recreation the monies that are in the recreation trust fund for
recreational programs no so you're back trust fund what's why wouldn't you just have a fund for recreation what's a trust fund what's a trust fund so it's for it's dedicated for a specific purpose the fund that might be for recreation but it has to be called a
trust fund is so a trust fund is dedicated for a specific purpose so a dedication by Rider it's a resolution that just creates a trust fund we did one last year for donations from the police department so we would pass that um and then what it does is any of those funds are put into the
trust fund and the accounting on our Ledger right and it can only be used for that purpose the council's permitted it to be used for it does not um roll over or sorry it does roll over year to year as opposed to the current fund which is not can't be trans can't be transferred
to another fund then it stays no it can't be transferred and but it can roll over to the same yeares capital okay you know it's just a municipal word that in regular you know
regular language I want to say we think of like a trust fun you know like you're a trust fund baby where this is not I'm not a trust fund suppose if we said a dedicated dedicated fund without trust it would sound more clear right
because otherwise it doesn't really by rder like it's um and in our in our budgets in case I when when this is introduced we could always look at the what if you want to um called the dedicated bys uh oh I think we might be
breaking y oh are we still there yeah okay so it's the trust it's that word trust that kind of throws I think some people off yes and these are requirements set by DCA on the Community Affairs the township does not have to
have trust funds um it's I mean it's encouraged to have trust funds for you know when you have a recreation trust fund if you have um like funds that from that so fees and stuff for events um it can be put into that fund and then if you're you know if
you're collecting fees for an event and then you have maybe some left over money from a winter event you could use that for maybe next year's winter event it's just it's a it's a good thing to have um capital is obviously required by the DCA to have a capital fund that is the same kind of thing it's cumulative it it you
know goes from one year to the next it goes zero okay thank you any other questions all all council members have received copies of the boof of minutes of the
meeting of February 10 2025 for the regular meeting May I have a motion to place those minutes on the floor for consideration can we break them up yes some of them have to refuse I make a motion for the February 10th
ones second second favor saying I we need a roll call roll coun abstain council member D benedetto yes
council member Higgins yes council member Spa yes council president Ruda yes motion I have a motion to place the minutes for our regular meeting of March 10th on the floor I'll make that motion motion made by Mrs buer is there a
second second second Ament this is De benedetto any questions or comments Oru us here I'm sorry I I was wondering why nobody seconded it was only the three of us here seeing uh no request for changes U
may I have a roll call please council member buer yes council member D benetto yes council member Higgins sh council member spos council president rudo yes consent agenda any member wishing to comment on
consent agenda please let me know we can separate it resolution 2-99 lock 576 lot 87 Gaton revised cancelling taxes for
dis total disabled veteran resolution 25-100 refund for totally disabled veteran block 576 lot 87 Gaton revise
refund to cancel tax taxes resolution 25-11 block 596 lot 6 Sims cancelling taxes for total disabled veteran resolution
25-12 resolution to award uh HVAC maintenance service bid to Air Group for LLC for bid 1-125 a resolution uh 25-1
three approving active volunteer firefighter for membership in the New Jersey state fireman's Association Coro resolution 25-14 the refund
overpayment uh block 350 lot five Jenkins resolution 25-105 refund over rep payment block 2527 lot
303 solo solowski resolution 25-16 refund over payment block 457 Lot 8 Christiana trust as
customer lot res I'm sorry resolution 25-17 emergency temporary Appropriations resolution 25-10 resolution of the township of
Vernon appointing a municipal prosecutor may I have in the form of a motion I'll make that motion motion made by Mrs bueri is there a second second seconded by Mr Higgins Sparta I'm I'm
sorry no problem I'm a little bit [Laughter] younger so we can make comments on certain ones now we can say if You' like to have any of this separated just I'd just like to make a comment yes on uh general statement on uh canceling taxes
and I like make it and 107 and 111 we don't have to pull them out could make a comment on what on the cancelling of the taxes 107 and 110 um are there any specific questions on that or just a general comment no on
107 it's an emergency temporary appropr ation and for the public certification it's a $6 million appropriation a temporary and just like an explanation of why we're doing it because the
budget that was uh the the amount of money that was approved for the first quarter for the first quarter this how extends beyond the first quarter Township needs money to
satisfy it's require right this is a normal procedure at this point in time or no this is nothing out of the ordinary there there's nothing out of the ordinary and it again it'll be applied to the new budget that's
being considered right uh anything else yeah on uh the general statement on the uh the taxes and liabilities I asked uh Mr King to uh research out if it's a state law are we following the state law
what what's the status and uh I got my answer tonight it is a state law that if qualification done has nothing to do with us and a veteran is disabled they get 100% And it's not a discretion of council if I'm correctly it is they have
to they have to be determined that they're 100% disabled and then they don't have to pay state um tax right and this has been this has been written into the state constitution right it's part it's passed however we we periodically attend some
functions by fundraisers or meetings at uh other venues and our state representatives continue to bring this matter up to uh members of the
uh you know State Assembly and the Govern the governor himself and there has been some apparently some movement remember what this becomes is what they call an unfunded mandate once
again Trenton says you have to do this but we're not giving you any money to do it we're just saying do it and on that basis you have to satisfy it with funds that you have essentially what happens
uh is that the cost of those taxes are then spread around to people who have uh you know who have to pay it as part of their Levy themselves now I am uh I am
sure that all of us here I certainly do I Know Myself having lived through that that that despotic War uh that people who served over in Vietnam uh did so uh you
know at the behest of their country and they placed their life on the line people who lived at home and did not serve for whatever reason uh you know are probably
very happy that it was not them that was that was overseas so I think all of us give thanks to those those brave men and women and say thank you very much and that uh you know given the opportunity uh we we
would provide them with any type of relief that would be necessary unfortunately what's happening is that we the taxpayer are not given any we don't hear what's happening to and we
our word isn't heard in Trenton when we're saying you know you're telling us to do this without even considering what can what can be done in another fashion and another way hence an unfound
unfounded or unfunded mandate I apologize so thank you is there anything else no the last one was on the appointing of a municipal prosecutor yes and we've got the resume and uh was that Mr Mayor was
that your choice was that you did the interviewing and yes um I we've interviewed um prosecutor with um our police chief and Court Administrator as
well they have to work with this prosecutor so I I it's very important for them to be involved with that interview process um we've agreed that this this should be
a step forward for for this prosecutor I mean my point is he just a young guy just got out of school years ago he works he's the prut judge also has a a very good working relationship with
him pass around the bottom to make sure somewh new but reminds me and I said exactly than Mike and Gore just like by the way Mike and ganore is this is the assemblyman who's
taking care trying to get some movement on the he knows I'm think the the handling of the excess which is good the non-funded Mandate for taxes he's doing quite a strong job
for us it's greatly appreciated by the way also uh the individual who's been named as uh uh the prosecutor is a cuml graduate from I believe ruter and
also mag a Magna I'm sorry he's a Magna La drag graduate that glorious uh see anyone else may I have a roll call please G yes council member deetto yes
member Higgins yes Mara yes yes 2025 Municipal budget introducing the budget for 2025 may I have a motion to introduce
this budget mov by Mr Higgins is there second by Mr Sparta there is no comment on this has not had a chance to read it U roll
Callier yes council member D benedetto yes yesc member Sparta I'm sorry is there something that I'm sorry Marcy um yes council
president resum yes motion car in ordinance 25-3 Township of burn County of suss state of New Jersey amending chapter 330
non-conforming buildings and uses of the code of Township of Vernon to allow for reconstruction of existing dwellings within the existing footprint uh this is a motion to adopt
may I have motion to open the public uh for hearing uh on this particular ordinance moved moved by Mr is there a second second seconded by Mr Higgins call please this is to open the meeting open
the public oh okay we're not yes council member D benedetto yes yes counc spart yes yes now particular action has opened the floor to the public if anybody has any
questions or comments on this or thoughts now is the time to express your opinion seeing no one coming forward may I have a motion to close the floor to the public I'll make that motion motion made by Mrs bueri is there a second
second second seconded by Mr Higgins uh roll call council member Bush CH yes yes benetto yes member Higgins yes member SP yes council president bzo yes may I have a motion to
adopt 25-3 I'll make that motion motion made by Mrs gueri is there a second second second by Mr SC any questions or com from the council I do I think there exists some some places
where the existing footprint of a home or building or whatever is so close to the setback that has been dangerous previously uh that simply repeating that
problem is something that I don't know if I can uh go along with it um I can point out a couple of places right off the bat uh where we are so close to the edge of the road I'm not so sure that somebody could
get hurt however I don't see any type of uh recommendation to the council and to the Township from the uh the luse
boort uh or the the uh planner that says when you run into a problem like this this is a situation that should be should be referred back to the land use board so as to avoid a repetition of a
problem that has existed previously continues to exist and now is threatened to re you know reex and I just don't know if people are aware of situations like this or if they're willing to to accept that type
of uh you know situation that's a good point because there is this example right down the street from the high school yes where somebody's going to be sleeping in that room and get run over by a truck I think it almost sticks out over the road
now if they go before my feeling is if they go before the land use board and the land use board for you know gives it consideration at least it gives the town some cover in in regards to uh what is being done or what should be done and
perhaps coming up with another a viable alternative it is on the agenda for the lard repard it is on the agenda so do we for the next meeting yes can I can I com certainly I know the
house that you're talking about that that house already has a permit um um this this ordinances has already passed through the planner our engineer our head of our
construction official um and it has when I understand the support of the land sport as well just want to let you know that it's fully supported that this that this just just I understand but the question comes
up that when my understanding was that when this was brought before L the L use board that there was some consideration given to it and then the only way that they were able to allow this to move forward
was to use the existing ordinance that said all all but one side must remain I'm sorry only one side of the four must remain in position so as to qualify for
I guess you would call it an exemption now we managed to pass it okay and you know so be it I just wanted to make sure that people understood what was going on because I'm sure that people as myself
and Mr Higgins who passed that way periodically on a regular basis yeah see that and want to be sure that it's been addressed yeah like I said I think um whether you left it with the the way it was or or this gets adopted um it
wouldn't change uh it wouldn't change the the layout of that right they would have to still keep that one W but that's not going to change the footprint but like I said this is this has all been a an ordinance that's many have said again the planner
the engineers said this is long we do we should have been this is and and also to to go ahead and keep that one ball up and then you have to uh design around it it's the post is is is a lot
too on on the homeowner the Builder whoever's doing so this is something that has the full support yeah I agree that was a Crux of the discussion whether one wall had to be left up and made no sense knock them
all down and put them up but somebody forgot to say how close to the road it is cu that used to be a horse and carriage Road problem many of our Road houses hanging over the road many of our roads are expansion foring Carriage routes and hence that's what it was when
they put you know the asphalt down and then the question would be you had put those setbacks on to say that piece of property I don't know how that probably opens up a whole legal problem as well you're depriving someone of the full use of their property right are you
depriving someone of the full use of their property then like I don't I don't think take a a a property that's been inhabited and then make it a non-conforming you know property and and deprive them you're depriving them of of
of using their property at in the same footprint that they had it originally when they had a means just to keep up one wall and rebuild it I mean there there's it doesn't in P I understand what you're saying but it does doesn't solve the problem that you're talking about because the old
ordinance would still be there where they you could still do it just keep up one wall yeah I understand I got what you're saying I knew what I was I knew what I was stepping into I just want the public to be aware that you know there is a
mechanism for this and if the if the luse board chooses to say that it's not necessary then I go by them it's no problem I just wanted to be uh as they say put on the floor for considerations I think you would hope that if someone lost the house and if
they could move it back that when they went to the planning board they'd probably want it further back away from the road but in some in some particular at that point in time then you've really taken away a buildable lot and ride them with their home
yeah questioning that was really a buildable a lot at one point it was I guess I'm sorry at one point it was yeah yes thank you um we have a motion on the floor any other comments roll call roll call
please council member bushier yes council member D yes council member yes Council membera yes council president rudo yes Council comments on public got public sorry public comments you were
right uh public comments the have motions to open the floor to the public I'll make the motion motion is made by Mrs bueri open the floor to the public for five minutes on any topic is there a second second seconded by Mr sparter uh
roll call please council member BR yes council member dto yes member Higgins yes member Sparta yes president rudo yes floor is open to the public for a period of five minutes for comments on any
question any issue anyone wishing to come forward once again Steve dunlo Williamsville States I went out to dinner with one of the council members Saturday night and we agreed to uh rondevo at the daily bean and then ride
drive up to Warwick together um actually went to the Boneyard Cafe also Mexican restaurant highly recommended we were standing in the parking lot of the daily beam talking to the owners of The Bean uh Mark and Gina
and I heard a jig break and turned to the road and saw a um 18wheeler coming down a gas tanker full-size gas tanker coming down the hill and it looked like he had a smoke bomb attached to the back bumper the whole back of the
trailer was completely engulfed in white smoke break smoke um he managed to get stopped he stopped at the gas station in front of the Acme um called the police eight minutes response time not bad I guess for not
emergency call and um we were informed that they were going to rate him a ticket he had tried to indicate that he hadn't come down the hill but told him he did um [Music] I know it's a difficult situation and
there's a supposed clause about um local traffic local deliveries I don't know if it can be argued that if you're making a delivery to that not a local delivery local deliver is only to 638 okay this was discussed when I
brought it up last year okay so as far as I was concerned he was complete violation of the law polican said he was going to write him a ticket um yeah it's a real dangerous thing it could have smashed into the back of cars could have
ended up in the Acme Sign it could have ended up overturned in the creek um I guess the police just need to be more diligent about maybe parking up at the top of the hill and watching for it I know they can't be there 247 I know
hardest is trying to watch it but I've never seen attractor Traders break so engulfed in Smoke as that one was and I'm glad we were there I'm glad we saw it I'm glad we called the police I hope that maybe the mayor can confirm with uh Chief young in fact I might call him
myself to see that they did give him a ticket because they didn't witness it um but we both gave our names and addresses and phone numbers we don't need another tag your truck no wor not BL up we crashing in the car so I'm glad we saw it I'm glad
we were able to do something about it last thing is our sound system talked about this for years and years it's 2025 I don't blame our clerk our clerk sits over there ready to pull her hair out because sometimes it works sometimes
it doesn't you get noise she turns the speakers off and you can't hear our attorney I've asked him to pull his microphone closer to him I've asked Brad to pull his mic I've asked you to bring the Bic if there's some way they can look into what's going on with our sound
system these speakers are working it's fine when they're not it's not I'm 72 years old so I realize my hearing is not the best but we got to fix this on the YouTube I don't know if I asked spart to to listen
the other night it's all muffled you can hardly hear you hear nothing the mayor says because of the microphone being so far away from him it's not right it's it it needs to be addressed so I'm hoping maybe you can
cono the administration to do something about the sound system in this room thank you you I didn't see my time right and I'll admit I was the person with Steve when the truck thank you anyone else wishing to address the
council have Scott Castle from Glenwood um just to weigh in my two cents on the mayor salary topic um for me I think the mayor has done a really good job so far um I think he's gotten more accomplished than the last two Mayors for the town
specifically um I think some of the the small things that he thinks of like the car shows you know possible Carnival the town clock all of that makes the town you know a better place and better to visit and it draws people in which is what we need I think it's
it's business friendly um I don't know you know what the what the whole setup is and how it's supposed to work but it really doesn't seem to me like it's too efficient to have the mayor you know come up with a
plan work it out and then have the ba basically there full-time to put it in place I think what that ends up doing is just having to ba call the mayor and have a long phone call every time something's going on so that to me doesn't seem like the you know the best
way to to set things up um but I think um so that being said you know I'm not really I'm not against AR raise um but I think I'd be ha I'd be fine with it being on the ballot if it's not going to cost thousands of dollars I mean that that that to me seems crazy but for
people to vote for it that's fine um I do think also that um you know the business side of things again I think I've mentioned this before when we had a meeting on something else but articles that I've read are
businesses and people that are going to invest in a town prefer to have I don't know if you necessarily call it a mayor but you have one person that you deal with from start to finish so you don't you know talk to the mayor you set everything up and now you're dealing with a ba or whatever you know maybe it
is the fact that they just want to have a ba and that's all they deal with whatever it is one person makes sense and I think the mayor's brought you you know a lot of PE places in here I think he's pretty good at getting people in here so I would prefer he's the the frontman for it um but where I think I
differ is I'm not all that thrilled with uh just passing the cost on to the taxpayers immediately and I'm hoping that the the council the council seems really good on this stuff but I don't want them to fall into what the Boe does which is just the easy way to default is
well we'll just pass that on I'd like to see if we could offset the cost of of a you know an increase I looked around and I'm no expert but it didn't seem like a lot of towns have three full-time people being admin you know
administering a town so I know the mayor works a lot of hours I mean I've talked to him late at night sometimes I see him on the weekends at Town functions and everything um you know representing the town every time I've come here I see the ba here
working and you know this isn't to pick on anybody specifically so just let me know if I should duck or anything but do we actually need a full-time CFO as well I was looking I was trying to find the the responsibilities for the CFO and the
ones that I could find they're not all 100% you know CFO specific responsibilities I don't know if it's even possible but could we not offset some of those tasks to the mayor and to the ba and then drop the CFO down to a
part-time position with maybe the ultimate goal of just phasing that part out so we don't have these three High salaried you know overhead positions in there because what happens is what's happening with the Boe too that the admin costs become so high that it's
taken up a good chunk of your your budget to start with and it leaves you no flexibility you know you can't go back and forth so I don't know if any of that is possible and I'd like to I know this isn't a question and answer but maybe at some point I'd like to know if it is possible to change those positions
around that we have now or are they locked in because of you know some contractual obligation or anything that we have thank you thanks the CFO statutory and I believe tenured as as full-time so okay as well as few other
positions within the township and and I'm sorry so could but could that change is there any way to change that then no so that's it locked in from now on so so the current the in
certain towns C this CFO is um tenured so they stay there unless there's the only way you can remove them is for cause if you had a health officer here they're tenured after five years only way you can remove them is for cause the clerk is tenured the way you can for
cause so and and those are protected positions because those those are the key positions that those are protected positions on the the statute okay that's pressing to hear but thanks thank you anyone
else sad Rinker Vernon maybe some of my comments will help Cel to understand the for government my comments to the agenda item listed as Mayor's salary first the mayor's compensation is
a stiped we have to stop calling in a salary because a salary implies employment this is not employment it's elected position Mr rudo to your comment strong mayor weak counsel I do disagree with that strong mayor meaning stronger than
other forms but you're co-equal Powers the way I read it in the statute you have you're not a weak counil you're coal Powers well not really okay but that was just an asign Our Town operates under the forner ACT there are several
forms of forner our prior form was before 2011 was Council manager the manager hired was hired by the council was a highly paid professional with a degree in administration an experience in municipal government Civil Service
Union contracts and supervis the Departments and employees our last manager was paid $145,000 quite a number of years ago already our current form mayor councel allows a mayor to be elected at large
but this form also requires the hiring of a business administrator because the elected mayor role has no requirements for credentials or experience the business administrator basically takes the place in my opinion
of the manager in our prior form the business administrator is the professional with a degree in Business Administration perhaps also experience in municipal government contract negotiations budget preparation civil service and oversees the
day-to-day operations of the Departments and employees these skills demand a high salary the management of our town should not cause taxpayers more due to the change in a form of government the mayor in our prior form a
member of the council received the same stiping as the other council members $3,000 the council established a $30,000 stipend for the elected mayor in our current form I remind this Council that when the first elected mayor requested
an increase above $30,000 shortly after getting elected it was overwhelmingly defeated not once but twice by the voters I maintain that's exactly what would happen again the increase from $3,000 to
$30,000 was to come compensate the mayor for extra duties in our current form the most important duty is to prepare the budget and of course with the help of this qualified CFO and a qualified business administrator he or she signs
documents oversees the Departments and negotiates contracts again with the help of of a CFO and a business administrator and she or he marries people none of these duties requires the mayor to be in the building all day
every day other Mayors have employment outside of that role fauler does not address the establishment of Parton or full-time it's not employment and the mayor is supposed to delegate the day-to-day operations to the more highly paid business administrator in our
current form who is in the building all day every day when a person runs for office on a local level it's to be for the willingness to serve the public not to fulfill a quest for employment because they are unemployed this Council embarked on a
study last year only to find many mayors of comparable towns in our form of government have sub substantially lower sitiens we need only to look at our own town attorney Mr Munch who is the mayor
of his town Bridgewater his town has a population of about 46,000 ours is 22,000 a budget of over 50 million RS is 32 million a median income of $158,000 RS is
$9,000 while he also practices law he accepts a $166,000 stien and so while our mayor currently gets a $30,000 stien probably a benefit package of at least
$115,000 single or maybe 30,000 for family I don't know that I'm sure one or the other and the use of an $800 $800 a month plus gas vehicle at his disposal he is currently benefiting
from a taxpayer funded $55,000 to $70,000 depending on where the healths are oh I'm sorry that's that's five minutes is enough thank you this issue has been exhausted by the voters Tom ma'am your time's
time's up ma'am and we need to move on to issues that taxpayers thank you next time I'm GNA have to talk faster thank you anyone else wishing to come forward so whether you want to call it a
stipend or a salary the fact name name oh I'm sorry my name is Marissa um Simon I from BR whether you want to call it a stipend or a salary the fact remains the same it's not enough for the amount of work responsibility and dedication required to lead this town
effectively the mayor manages budgets addresses Community concerns and overseas daily operations this is a full-time commitment that deserves appropriate compensation if we want to ensure that Vernon continues to move forward with a strong leadership we need to acknowledge
the value of this position and raise the confid to reflect that regardless of what label you put on it thank you thank you anyone else wishing to come forward good night everyone my name is Miss Karina I don't know if you guys
remember me I was here last year um between uh October and November and the last name the last name thank you uh I just want to know if uh four months was time enough I I want to
know uh is there is anything happening uh related to the water we should at my property I haven't heard is has the have you had a visit from the I didn't hear anything size then uh I had a visit
after a couple of emails um they look it up and there was was it last year nothing was done no I wasn't approached so I just want to know if that's this four months was time enough for me uh to have any response
from the town if you like you can leave your address with the clerk I'll have the comment I'll speak with the mayor have the attorney speak with the mayor and we'll give back to you okay okay I
appreciate thank you thank you anyone else wishing to speak k m feron um hearing everything tonight about the salary and about government and it was changed and it seems like we have a dysfunctional
government because the same problems keep up and nobody's happy about this nobody's happying about that how do you change government excuse me you're talking about government are you talking about the Vernon government
yes Vernon's government I don't know I mean I don't know if it's dysfunctional you may think it is well when you hear what what's going on and this is not a payment this is a stipp it this is that and and it's been going on for over 10 years it's a
difference in terms um we are functioning under a form of the fauler government but if you wanted to change that who would change it we did we started the movement on that there exists right now A ordinance that is
available for public use if you want to go out under the initiative form and take signatures and put it up before the public on a uh a ballot if it passes you
then have the opportunity to uh actually what you do the reverse you you discuss the form of government what you're going to be putting on the ballot it would be a form of the Faulkner government because you're not going to be able to go back but it will be some type of form
of the government goes on the ballot and if it passes then you have the opportunity to have an election what other type of form of government would take that place well it depends on what there the the Commissioners or the people who are then
evaluating the government would recommend the El elector but that's the government checking government commission no this goes there is a statement saying that we off we have offered the ability to the
elect Township to go ahead and place this form of government on the ballot the new the new government shall be and this is what you would describe to the electorate it's then on the ballot if it passes you now have the ability to
change the government to reflect whatever that form of government is so it could be any type of government depending on what the people usually usually the people that's what I'm saying yeah it's the people that will come up and say well this is how want to
be governed I I I don't disagree with you that's why we did it it's there but nobody took up on it took me took the council up on so the only way that things can change is if people the majority of the people will come up and say get rid of this fa act and let's do
something it'll be you have to petition it you have to I mean petition it yeah and it'll be under Falkner form probably it'll be another type of fauler form of government how can that be if you have there are many different kinds many different
types government one of how many I don't know that 13 or 14 13 or 14 it's to me that's dysfunctional yeah they understand may think it's dysfunctional but it's got to go before no it it must be very difficult and I've seen it and
I'm learning more and more about how local government is operating but it seems like we have to go back to basics because everybody from New Jersey state now the now the Board of Education there's no more uh Board of Education
Federal they're getting rid of that so they're putting it on the state state is going to be pressuring local so it's the same as as Vernon we should be go we really people govern themselves but um there's always been the issue of states
rights has always included education it was only back in I think 7 where the federal government where it was passed that they would be a Department of Education correct and at that point it changed
essentially what's happening going to happen now according to the comments that I'm hearing is the amount of money that was dedicated to schools in the state of all states will now be you know
uh pared out by uh the federal government directly to either the state or individual Boards of Education I kind of think it's probably state so there's changes coming and I and I really believe Vernon is growing and it it
needs to be controlled somebody's got to be ahead and control it you know and and make everything work me one may and that's he controls all the incoming and helping it grow and satisfying the
people even when you have to go through all the BS you know it's just going forward doing the right thing for Vernon because we have so much potential yes and it's just that we're standing still and well we're hardly standing still okay Welling still like but the but the
issue VES the issue is we operate under a fauler form of government it doesn't permit us to say you know get rid of this and do this it's not a cafeteria type of government where you could make and choose your own
we this is the form that you was dedicated in back in 2011 and that's the way we've served so can the mayor get a raise so under the ful five minutes is up but yes the mayor can get a raise but it would be up to
the council to uh give that raise ordinance I suggest something at least um some kind of thank you for the explanation question yes well i' sub to the council sorry can you go back to the old former
government or is that so yeah no You' the time to do I think it's like five years 10 years is it 10 years so it's 10 years 10 years has passed so I think that you can you could if you wanted to back to you just couldn't in that tenure
window change just the proposition yeah to go back to a previous form of government would require the uh Ascent of Department of Community Affairs to allow that I'm not so sure they'll
continue to do that or not but that's only my reading of what's happening in that regard it might they might welcome it I don't know any other questions thank you may I have a motion to close this
I'll make motion motion made by Mrs maeri is there a second second seconded by Mr Sparta all in favor signify by saying I I oppos motion carries um Council comments I have a few certainly uh under
our current uh form of government who manages the building and the staff mayor the mayor does Mayor mayor manages the bilding and the staff there another comment was made earlier and I think it
was by the CFO just that we're talking budgets the money had to be budgeted for increase in salaries for employees and uh does that mean that all employees get the same increase of salaries no if it's contractual if you have a
standard like cost of living adjustment usually uh well all the I've never seen any employees not giv the same amount um you'd give that 2% so you said first you said no but I'm talking about the nonunion well that's that's what I'm
saying so Union the union persons they you they have a Union contract whatever their contract says you know the police if they got 3% you know whatever percent they get that then usually the uh nonunion although I think you have a union here correct even with um like the
the staff in this office a couple non okay okay so the Unions would all get that uh 2% or whatever their percent in their contract would be the non-union people usually get that cost of living um if you have a certain um you know
person like a CFO administrator those type of higher um more prominent um positions that make more decisions kind of like the I guess a white collar person they could get you know more than 2% right could they get less than
2% you yes you don't so question so if you have a contract if you have Union contract not Union contract you don't have to give them you canot reduce them but you cannot good that's you're at the point where I want to be so the question is those people
they're a non-union do they all get the same raise anyway you have non-union people who were here last year who are here this year do they get a raise all the same amount no and everything is always usually uh Case by case basis if someone
was to get say more uh an additional raise based on responsibilities um workloads and things like that that's done based on a review that someone gives them it's yes review but it's also um one discussion again when it gets
brought to Tina or my brought to our attention right so if any of those people I don't want to know names and you went to personel file there would be a review for last year's work if they're getting a raised or not
getting raised yes a written review or no well they they do get a they do theirs Tina does their reviews you have a review for everyone that's in that category Tina I have a view for a review for all the department heads yes a written review yes and based on that
review is the raise that's either given or less of a raise yes that's not okay on any hires new hires a couple names were brought up here tonight on new position not names are they Civil Service uh
employees you you mentioned a recent hire as a clerk and something about a zoning officer he's been here she's been existing that was a new hire or that was a transfer we also service right so there
was mention of two new hires no that person that the the zoning officer was here already right the person who picking up the zoning office she was just transferred she was a current employee Bill and she was just transferred so one was a transfer and another was a new
employe no no have there been any new hires no new hires lately right I don't think so just part part- timers and there are part-timers required to go through a civil
service they are they are was the new part-time through Civil Service it all go through that process it was okay and my last question T are you fulltime or parttime I'm part-time your parttime
okay because most of the discussions for everybody that came up was full-time business administrator it's been your part-time right yes okay thank you uh that's it for me thank you Miss benad so I like a lot of what Anthony
does uh sorry mayor um I would like to incentivize somebody like him to continue to want to be mayor I don't agree with everything the mayor does but I do think you think creatively and you try and push this town in the
right direction I know your heart's in the right place I wish there were something we could figure out either creatively or otherwise to incentivize people like you who want to be mayor you know because not a lot of people can afford to not work and take a
$30,000 salary that's it thank you but we really should have had a rice notice for something like that oh what's a rice notice well you're talking about the the mayor I he can wave it if he want report US oh I'm not allowed to say that I think he's doing a good job no you can
say that but we shouldn't be talking about is but everyone has so F so how come you only call me out if everybody has but okay whatever I'm done that's all I had to say I have nothing M nothing would you
like to comment on the performance um I I have no comments um I have no comment either I was going to say have comments relative to the form of government we have but I think I've chewed on that a little bit prior
the end of this meeting there exists a number of classes that can be taken by members of the Council on the types of governments we are
serving that are serving within the state and that that uh we are serving under in our own Community they discuss budgeting they discuss they discuss uh reports you know the direct reports and
who does what and uh I I think if you many of them by the way are done uh on a uh online basis so if you want to do that you can look at it and uh on that fashion and pick up a lot of good
information I can ask the the clerk to I I send every send that out okay so if anybody wants to go ahead and take part in it it's a very very helpful um well other than that I have nothing else to
say I ask for a motion to adjourn vote V by Mr Higgins is there a second second by Mr all in favor signify by saying iOS motion ma'am if you want to give me your um
address and number and