Thank you all for taking time out of your busy schedules to be here today. We uh will expected to learn a lot. And if anyone is interested in joining the League of Women Women Voters, please visit our website at lwvbc.org. I would like to introduce our growth
management chair, Sarah Lee Moresy, who so very well organized this event and has put together an expert panel. So, thank you all so much again for being here. >> All right. Thank you, Nancy, and good afternoon to everyone. Thank you for
coming. Let me just start by saying, has anyone attended either Tuesday or Wednesday's community meetings on this same topic? Okay, let me say to each of you and all
the rest of you, today you're getting the master class. Okay. Uh we are going deep on this subject and we are going to be a little bit more interactive. Not that those meetings weren't interactive,
but we have scheduled this um to be a Q&A both during the presentation. We'll have a there's so much brain food in this um presentation that we're breaking it at certain spots. We'll take a couple
of questions during that time. Our team uh will continue on and then at the end again we'll have opportunity for Q&A. At the very end, uh Jessica and the team
from Taylor Engineering are here for further conversation at our boards, which is very similar, if not exactly similar to what's been happening at the community meetings. So, we're going to have a lot of opportunity for
conversation, deep understanding of this material because I have to say to you, as someone who's been here in our county for about 40 years, have dealt with some really big issues that require
understanding by the masses um and even voter approval by the masses of things. I think this issue, this topic is one of, if not the most critical issue facing this county in
this decade. All right. Um, our beach in my opinion is the most valuable natural as well as economic res resource
in our county. And so the future of both us as communities, us as a county, and our coast and our beach is pretty important. And so, um, I see
this as a kickoff, uh, for the county quite frankly. Um, but make no mistake, I think city involvement and I think city involvement across our entire county is going to be very important. This should not just rest on
our east side city's shoulders. So, I really appreciate that y'all are here um and that you are interested in this topic. Uh I want to make sure that uh those of you
uh who don't feel like you can see the screen, you are welcome to get up and I know I know Kelly I'm looking at you. I just asked you to move, but I want you to feel comfortable. If you can't see, feel free to move during
um during the time. Um, I know we advertised this to include Suzanne Conchin, deputy county manager. Suzanne's had another uh uh issue come up. Um, she may be here later in our
time together. Um, and if not, we'll do just fine. Um, I am going to then I'm going to move this over to Jessica Fentress who is the coastal director for
Valuchia County and she has a team of experts with her from Taylor Engineering. If you've been to the community meetings, these are the exact same people that are speaking to you both in Mass and at the boards. um a
very impressive group. I am only going to give a brief intro to J Jessica and let Jessica take it from there. Um you know we the league uh we introduced this issue to our
members and a few of you Ken I know you were there and I appreciate that you came in April of 2024. we had a hot topic uh where Jessica and Suzanne and um gentlemen from a different engineering group um came and kind of
talked real broad about just beach erosion and beach management and kind of what should you do or what could you do and hey Valuchia kind of like a wakeup. Um this is
uh now the next step. Jessica and her team have been not just spending money, but spending a lot of time analyzing, gathering data, and starting to bring forward important information by which recommendations and next steps come
forward. Jessica comes she she's going to hit 10 years with the county in January. And um prior to that she was with the city of Virginia Beach uh doing project management work both with the coast and
other engineering things. She has a very strong engineering background a BS from the University of North Carolina. And then I saw this on the screen last night and I was like a BS in mathematical
engineering. I'm like, please don't include data on that for us. So, uh, without further ado, I'm going to turn this over to Jessica. My name is Jessica Fentress. I am your Valuchia County coastal director, and we are here today to talk about our long-term beach
management plan for Valuchia County. What many people don't know is that we are one of two counties on the east coast of Florida that does not have a beach management plan. That's why after the 22 hurricanes, everybody was calling and saying, "Why isn't the Army Corps pumping sand immediately onto our beach?
We don't have the sand sourcing done. We don't have the permits. We don't have the funding. We don't have that program in place." And who gets sand worse? We had 37 miles of managed beach. We have the North Peninsula, which is a state park on the north. And then we've got Canaveral Seashore, which is a uh fed
park on the south. So, 37 miles of beach damage, too. In Hurricane Matthew, we took some hits in isolated areas, but in the 22 storms, it literally went from Granada all the way down to Bthoon. Uh, and it was different down in Bthoon. We
got four feet of sand put in Mary Mloud Bthoon Beach Park where we had uh erosional concerns up in the north end. So, I'm going to move in today. I'm going to pass it off to Mr. Marino. He is president of
Taylor Engineering. And if you Google Taylor Engineering, they are not from the state of Washington. This is the Taylor Engineering out of Florida. I got called on that yesterday. They all live in Florida, have lived in Florida, know our beaches very well. Um, and I'll pass
it off to Jim. >> Thank you, Jessica. Um, yeah, no, we're not from Washington. So, I've had the privilege of being the president of Taylor Engineering last 14 and a half years. Um, prior to that, I spent a couple of decades in the army doing things. So,
um, the public life and private life isn't kind of normal to me. So, I I'm a little bit different. Um, what I need to tell you, so we've had a 31-year relationship, Taylor Engineering, Dr. Taylor started the firm about 40 years ago. We've had a 31-year relationship
with Valuchia County, so we feel pretty comfortable. Um, I myself have had a house in Dear and and New Smyrna Beach. Um, of course, I live in St. John's County now because that's where the headquarters is and it made sense for us to move up there. But um there's a close
sense of servant leadership in our organization. That's really what our guiding what guides our corporate culture is the concept of servant leadership. Um we understand it's a privilege and we're part of the public and we should serve first. Um and that's what really guides
us. Um, I'd like to believe that that's part of uh our 31-year relationship um with the county. So, today I think the plan still is that we're going to have three breaks in in this presentation. So, you know, you don't have to remember
something that was said 30 or 45 minutes ago. We'll break that up. You ask the questions that you have and we'll do our best to answer them or we'll copy them down and that'll be the next phase of what it is we work on. So, uh that's it for me. Uh we know it's a privilege to be here and and we take it that way.
Again, servant leadership is our model and that's what guides our culture. But Chris and Wendy um far smarter and and better developed than me again. Uh you know, I went to West Point and they figured I hadn't learned enough. So they sent me to graduate school to the
University of Florida. Then they figured I didn't learn enough about coastal engineering. Then they sent me to a research and development assignment for three and a half years at the Coastal Engineering Research Center. And I think they still don't think I know enough. So, we have a bunch of bright folks that are behind them as well. Um, and so we're here really to address your
concerns, your questions, and try to come back come back with what the best solution to what Felia's challenges are. Okay. I do. So, Chris is up first. Wendy's up first. Yeah. Okay. Wendy will be up first. Uh, yeah.
You going backwards so we can You're gonna do it? >> Yes. >> So, we can introduce education. >> Yes. So, what have we done since the last time we came out and talked to legal women league of women voters in
April of 24? We've done a lot. We have started our construction projects. We have initiated this feasibility study. Uh we are doing the economic impact of the beaches because when we get to the end of this presentation, I'm going to hit it home on why is this important?
That's always the end of a presentation. Why should I care about all these fun things you just told me about? It ultimately comes down to brass taxes, dollars, right? Dollars, jobs, or economy. That's always our priority as policy makers. So, I'm going to give you
a pre- review of our projects we have currently in place. Um, our construction projects, our plan projects. Then we're going to move into the analytical process of a feasibility study. We're all going to open up for Q&A within the interims. And then at the end, we're going to talk about our economic impact.
If you have not yet gotten a copy of the economic impact report, I do have copies on the back table for you to peruse in at your leisure. Um there is a section on prostitutes in there. So tell me when you find that little hidden nugget. I'll be stoked. Um so let's talk about what's
going on. You've seen it all over the news. We have what's called the North Beach Sand Policement Project where we are partnering with the Army Corps of Engineers and we are pumping approximately 750,000 cubic yards of beautiful beach sand onto our beaches. It's sitting right behind Skip White's
house uh along with the dredging fuel farm. And um what we're doing is we're stockpiling that sand. We're letting it dry out. We're mixing it up. We're making it beach compatible. And then we are truck hauling it to the beaches south of Sunglow Pier in Daytona Beach Shores. The burm consists of 18 cubic
yards per linear foot of truck or per linear foot of shoreline. For awareness of what 18 cubic yards is, that's approximately one normal dump truck. If you have grandkids or young children, the Tonka toys are out and I would encourage you to go to the North
Turn restaurant and watch the Tonka toys um come up and down the beach. But if we were doing a full beach nourishment project, instead of 18 cubic yards per linear foot, we would be doing 100 cubic
yards per linear foot. So if you happen to have seen the burm that was created or you live in the area, that was not a beach nourishment project. And that's what I want to get out. That was purely a band-aid to replace the sand that was lost from the 22 hurricanes. We lost
over 6 million cubic yards of sand from the 22 hurricanes. This one project is just 750,000. It's it's a snack to the ocean. The project that we did um so just in case you're not familiar, we dredge sand from the inter coastal
waterway and Ponellon inlet in the Scholes. There's a pipe that runs over the jetty, runs up to just behind uh Beach Street, and then this entire green area is where we stockpiled sand. And that's from about Ocean View in Poninland all the way down to Beach
Street. We are not stockpiling sand south of Beach Street because we just watched about two months of significant nor easter/ Alda/arin things happen and the sand moved from the BMS into the offshore or the nearshore. So we didn't put sand in this
area because we didn't want it right back in the inlet. Um truck hauling it north. We have gotten down to about Ocean View. We're pausing until we get to December and then we're going to start placing the sand south of Beach Street uh to the Battel property which
is the southernmost private property. Fun fact, we have the saltiest coastline. So, they actually test paint chips there to see how it holds up to the salt and windows and seals and all kinds of things. Um hope to have this project completed. The Army Corps is scheduled to finish their dredging at
the end of November and we are hoping to have all of our sand placed shortly in the new year. Uh, our contractors, local Halifax, they are great. Um, they've been excellent partners throughout this entire project. That's what it looked like. It was beautiful, right? It's
great. It's awesome. Turtles loved it. People loved it. But it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It's gone in the nearshore. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. If you talk to Mayor Miller, the private property owners that benefited from this sand placement project throughout Erin,
throughout Alda, throughout that weird funky nor easter we got in between both of them, the tide didn't hit the seaw walls until one week before the swell went out. So if they were taking six straight weeks of ocean events in this critical area of this, just for
reference, Toronita Beach Ramp is right where that light pole is. So that's about the 4,100 block of South Atlantic Avenue in Wilbur by the Sea. Some of these properties still don't have seaw walls. Um, so they're private properties and we had a BM that went out
to about where the water line was and then sloped down. So it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It provided protection. It put material into what you will later hear as a sand starved system. We lost 6 million cubic yards.
It didn't just go in the nearshore. That went in our inlet. That's why we're dredging it. We're going to go into our future projects and you'll see where additional sand is coming from. But it did exactly what it was supposed to do. The second project, um, Vice Mayor
Martin is in the room. New Simra Beach is the South Sand placement project. We are dredging approximately 550,000 cubic yards of sand from Rattlesnake Island. That's right here. Here's the back end of the ICW. Um, this is Smart Dunes Park
on the far left of the screen. We did this exact same project in 2006. Those of you who have been here for a while, 2004, we had a significant amount of hurricanes, tore New Samura up. We found buried school buses in the dunes because apparently that's how they did
it in the 70s. Um, can't do that today. So, what we're going to do is we're going to take we're going to take this beautiful beach sand that is sitting in a dredge material management area. It came from the channel a couple years ago. It's been tested. We are going to pump that
sand down the ICW along the pink line. There is a submerged pipe going across Sapphire Road. For those of you that don't know where Sapphire Road is, that's also uh Gracie Park. Very popular beach parking approach. We're going to daylight the pipe on the
beach at Sapphire Road and we're going to start placing sand in a similar 18 cubic yard per linear foot template. Uh starting at the north end and working our way south, we're going to discharge the sand, build the beach. As soon as we get a segment of beach built, we're going to lay another pipe on it.
Discharge the sand. Once that's built, we're going to lay another pipe on it all the way down to unincorporated New Smyrna. Um I think the Sam Piper 3100 block area and we need these vents. So if you know
anybody who wants an easement, have them contact us. We will be more than happy to help facilitate easements to allow us to provide you with sand. That got a notice to proceed October 1. They have already started working on site prep on the island. Uh we anticipate pipes to
show up on Sapphire and the beach in late November. project should be completed by May one. May one is turtle nesting season and we will plant kind of in that April time frame. Here's the big money sand. This is what we are calling our Scholes toshore
project. Uh following the hurricanes, uh we got 82 million in total grant funding from the Florida Department of Environmental Protection. That was in response to the the calls for assistance from our elected leadership, not only at our local level, but also at our state
level, mostly League, right? Uh Traymont, they were significant in helping us get this. Um we believe there's about 1.75 million cubic yards of sand. Just for perspective,
the north project was 750,000. The south project is 550,000. So this is going to double all of that. This will provide sand for the beaches north of Sunglow up to about Granada for everybody who signs an easement for us. And then you should have enough material left to do the
first beach project, wherever that beach project ends up being. We're we haven't defined that because that's what we're working through right now as our beach management plan to identify the first beach project. Even longer term, one of the questions I
got was, "Why isn't the Army Corps pumping all the sand out of the ocean back onto my beach?" Well, we didn't have the permits for that. We did a sand source investigation back in 2004, and uh the leadership in that time of 2006
to 2008 kind of chose not to pursue this. Um, this little pink line right there, you may or may not be able to see it. Hopefully, you can see my little laser pointer. That's the three mile marker. State waters versus fed. Most of our
sand source is outside of that pink line. You know what that means? Let's add another couple of years to it. Um maybe they can doge the permitting process at the federal level. I would greatly appreciate that. But where we
we've got a significant amount of sand there like around the round of 40 million cubic yards. We've got enough to make our beach no longer in a sand starved, sand deficit state. Put beach on or put sand onto our beach and then protect our private properties, our
recreation, our tourism, um, and our habitat. So, coastal background. I'm gonna Yes, sir. >> Just a real quick question. >> Phase two and phase.
>> Give a politician a mic. Good job. phase two and phase three the um easement process. When do we start that and do we have a cut off date like we did for phase one? >> So the one thing about easements is you do not want to sign an easement until
you think you are very close to placing sand because what that will do is it will encumber property and I there there's you may or may not want to sell. It's no point in encumbering the property. We're not going after permanent easements at this time. We're only going after temporary easements. Uh
we are anticipating we can possibly have sand placement associated with the second phase of inlet Scholes to shores project in 2027. So I'm going to pass it to Wendy. She is
the Valuchia County beach expert. Thank you, Jessica. All right. So to set the stage, we're first going to go over a little bit of history and some terminology about beaches because we're going to be using these words. So hopefully uh we can set you up to
success for understanding us. A little bit about history and uh what we've been doing uh especially since 2019. So annually the county has been collecting beach profile data. In a second, we'll go over what a beach profile is, but we
send a team of surveyors out and every year at the start of the summer season, they collect this data. So, it is elevation data at intervals of about a thousand feet along the beach. So, this allows us to produce annual monitoring reports. We're looking at this data and
saying, you know what, this area is eroding a little more than than the previous year. Uh we also look at this after storm. So that's how Jessica knows that uh the county lost 6 million cubic yards of sand following hurricanes Ian and Nicole. So some of those reports are
available on the coastal web page. So if you're really interested in looking at that data, please please go download them there. Additionally, I do want to mention too that the county does actively manage Pon inlet. So there is a inlet management plan um that needs to
be upheld and uh they receive funds from the state as well and that's what a lot of these bypassing projects have done. So the dredging right now that's occurring in the inlet and going north of the inlet that's meeting our goals and objectives that are set in this
inlet management plan. So beach terminology uh you I hope you've all been out there. Um if not you're really missing out. Uh in the back of the beach we we have our dune. So typically this is vegetated um or we
hope it's vegetated and this provides your last line of defense on the beach. It's a very very important feature. Uh following that we come to our beach burm. This is the area where the public recreates. This is where you drive in the county. Um then we have our
intertitle zone. This is where mean high water and mean low water MHW and MLW. Uh this is the high tide, low tide zone. Sometimes it's wet, sometimes it's not. And then the nearshore, uh where you've seen that North Berm project go into, it's still in the active beach system.
So notably too, storm water levels. They vary. Different storms have different water levels and those usually exceed that mean high water level. Also, there's king tides, other high water level events. So, um, that will exceed that and oftent times come up to the
burm and hopefully you have a dune there to help protect you from those high water levels. And touching on our last set of meetings, so back in February, we held our first set of outreach meetings. Again, they were three consecutive evenings. And during those meetings, we
went over some of the historic beach trends. So, what's been happening on the Valuchia County beaches um, primarily since about 2019? how did the hurricanes impact you here? Um, and we discussed all that. So, if you scan the code at the bottom or just go to the county's
website, uh, there is a recording from that meeting and that presentation available online. Um, it will also be in our final report. I do want to note Jessica mentioned there are 37 miles of managed beaches here. Of those 37 miles,
the state FD recognizes 27 of those as critically eroded. And here you can see the definition of what a critically eroded shoreline is. So this is a segment of shoreline where natural processes or human activities have caused or
contributed to erosion and recession of the beach or dune system to such a degree that upland development, recreational interests, wildlife habitat or important cultural resources are threatened or lost. 27 of 37 miles. That
is very significant. Um, additionally, I do want to mention, Jessica will go over this a little bit at the end of the presentation, but um, during that first set of outreach meetings, we also did a beach user survey. Uh, it was great. We've received
over 12,000 responses about how your community members like to enjoy the beach and what they want to see for its future. We have another survey that's live and hopefully we receive just as much feedback about what you want for the beach in the future. So, please
check that out if you're interested. We'd also be happy to talk about that more. And next, I'm going to pass it to Chris to talk a little bit about our risk assessment. All right. Thank you, Wendy. Um, next we will focus on the risk assessment. And
some of you I've seen and I saw some hands raised earlier on attending the meetings the last two nights. Some of the slides will look familiar, but we're hoping to take the opportunity today to dig in a little bit more and to discuss some of the factors within the
individual communities that we we noticed within the risk assessment. And then we also have a bunch of posters in the back for after this presentation is over. We'd love to talk with you if there are any questions that you have or things that might not have been clear. All right. So when we talk about the
risk assessment methodology, what we did is we defined vulnerability parameters and then we use those parameters to develop the a community risk index. And we did this by looking at different facets of the existing conditions on a parcel by parcel basis within each
community. And then we looked at those parcels within each community to determine average values or the specific condition for that community based on the parcel data. ultimately to derive that community risk index that we'll get to here at the end of this segment. So
the first main parameter that we looked at was shoreline encroachment. So this was used to define the distance between the mean high water shoreline that Mendy just Wendy just mentioned and where that um infrastructure was located for that specific parcel. So that's the the
horizontal buffer between the sea and the infrastructure. That was parameter one. Parameter two was an infrastructure exposure that was looked at in the vertical. So this was a vertical elevation examination taking the elevation of each of the structure at
each parcel and comparing that to a US Army Corps of Engineers statistical water level that was derived um in a large study they did. They actually ran over a thousand synthetic tropical storms and hurricanes through a numerical model that included um the
storm surge as well as the breaking waves and then did a statistical analysis to come up with what's the 1% annual chance water level and they also looked at other return periods as well. But that 1% annual chance you can think of as a one in a 100redyear type event.
So this is a an elevated water level and what we did is we compared that water level along the county and uh with the elevation for the structure on that parcel and then looking at whether that was within a foot or greater than a foot
we defined an index and that allowed us to define the infrastructure exposure for each community um as the second parameter. The third parameter was the historical erosion rate. For this, we looked at data going back to 2016, so Matthew to present. And along the
county, we defined a historical erosion rate for each community using a technique called linear regression. So, we took all of the measured data that we had between 2016 and 2024 and then developed the average change in the shoreline position. So this um analysis
showed that on average the the county has the county shoreline has lost over eight feet per year of shoreline. In some of the communities it's over 12 feet. And we can see some of those results when we get into the details here uh coming up. And then lastly down
at the bottom there were some other factors that were weighted a little bit lower. So we looked at the presence of armoring where there seaw walls or not and the elevation of those seaw walls. Um, sache storm response is uh we we're provided some modeling data from the
Florida Department of Environmental Protection or FDP that looked at how that shoreline would respond in different sections to different uh types of storm forcing. So, we applied that information as well. And then lastly, there was some uh community demographics information where the details for that
are back on our posters. So the the graphic here is trying to convey we had a a horizontal buffer that's that first parameter shoreline encroachment. We had a vertical um uh aspect of the vulnerability that's that infrastructure
exposure number two. And then not shown labeled but three is that shoreline retreat that was measured since 2016. All right. So getting into a little bit more of the details. What we have on this slide is just an example of how
this was done. So you'll notice some of the infrastructure um uh labeled as homes. We have condos uh also labeled. Uh we also have a road labeled and then we have this mean high water shoreline position. Oops, hold on. Going
backwards. Mean high water shoreline position that's labeled as a black line. So looking at each parcel then we were able to determine the parameters for the uh vulnerability um assessment by looking at the distance between a parcel
and that mean high water shoreline. So that defined that um horizontal buffer and then we also knew the elevation of that parcel and compared it to the army corps of engineers statistical water level to provide that elevation buffer parameter for each parcel as well.
Lastly, we had the data along the entire county for the shoreline change rate and then therefore we were able to have all the parameters at that parcel and then we looked at those across the community to come up with a community risk index uh that was applied. We did use the best
available data. So a lot of the analyses were done with 2024 um post Milton LAR data and that allowed us to have very detailed and current data to develop these analyses. All right. So, um, this table sums up,
uh, the risk assessment results. And no, your eyes aren't going bad. This is all blurred out so I can walk you through it, um, and help you orient you before you start looking at the specific details within the matrix. So, to walk through what we're going to talk about, uh, on the lefth hand side, we have the
communities from north to south that were evaluated. And then along the top in the blue. Oh my goodness, this is touchy. I did not do that. All right, getting back. There we go. Um, so along
the top we have the um, uh, parameters that were evaluated within each community. So there's that shoreline encroachment infrastructure exposure that historical change rate and then as I mentioned armoring as well as that speech modeling result was also
examined. So for each parameter we assigned a value in that lower left corner there to evaluate the risk. It was either evaluated as low receiving one point uh medium with two or high with three points. So what this means is that the more points you get, the higher
the risk that is being assigned for that specific parameter and specific to that community. We recognized that some of the parameters were more important than others. So we had three primary parameters that were given a weight of five. Uh those were the ones I spoke u
most about on the previous slides. The shoreline encroachment, infrastructure exposure or that vertical distance of buffer and then that historical shoreline change rate. The two other parameters we deem them secondary parameters. They were received a weight
of two. They were worth considering but they did not uh receive as much weight as the other three. So what that allowed us to do then as we worked through was to um make our assignments for each parameter in each community based on the
data that was there. And as I mentioned, we used uh current data and um you know had rules on how we made these assignments. So based on that data analysis, what you'll notice is for each community and each parameter, we have a um a risk rating that allows us to then
on the column over here come up with a cumulative risk score where a higher number indicates a higher level of risk. And then we were able to rank each community based on their risk index um uh as shown there where the ones
indicate the highest risk. So that was Daytona Beach and Daytona Beach Shores as long as Wilbur by the Sea and then third and four three and four were Silver Sands and Methun Beach at three and then New Smyrna Beach South at four. Now if we dig in just a little bit uh
what we'll notice is you know we have some parameters like infrastructure exposure and what we know what we found was that Silver Sands and Methun Beach had a higher percentage of structures that were within that one foot distance where their structure elevation was
close in proximity to that Army Corps of Engineers statistical water level for the storm surge indicating a more vulnerable infrastructure set within that specific community than any of the other ones. Notice that's the only community that received a score of three. We have all the data related to
the percentage of parcels and kind of how that was calculated back there in the posters that we can dig into uh after the talk if you would like. And then another example would be the historical shoreline change rate. As I mentioned, countywide, the average was eight and a half feet per year since
2016 based on that regression analysis. However, several of the uh communities had rates that were over 10 feet per year and those communities with the highest rates had the highest level of risk associated with those. And it's similar across the other parameters. You
can see there is variation across. But the ones that um ended up with the highest risk score, therefore the highest ranked risk. You'll notice um we have four out of five highs and three out of high fives for those specific
communities. Next, Wendy will take over. Oh, questions. All right. All right. We're gonna If you have a question, raise your hand. we'll bring you a mic and that way it will end up on the um recording.
>> All right. >> Thank you. Um first there's a water tower in case anybody wants to refill. It just came in. So that wasn't my question. I want to make sure you all know that um because we're here for a while. I asked
this last night and it took Nicole a little while to get me to understand the answer, which I do understand, but I think it's worth asking. Infrastructure exposure. I was really surprised to see the ranking of Wilbur
by the sea. um you know that it it had a a low and then I think on another graphic you have it so shows zero properties and yet what's in my mind is after Ian we were
seeing visuals of houses that literally were in Wilbur falling into the ocean. So could you explain that kind of perceived differential? Thank you, Sarah Lee. I'd be happy to
explain that. So, in Wilbur, yes, we saw a lot of erosion, especially after he hurricanes Ian and Nicole. That would really be represented by that shoreline encroachment. So, the horizontal distance between the mean high water location and the actual infrastructure,
that horizontal distance was quite small. However, the infrastructure there is actually quite high. That's why you were seeing those very large sand scarps. So the infrastructure sits up high. However, the buffer between infrastructure and the ocean is quite
narrow. So that's why their their rating for infrastructure exposure is low because it sits high. However, if you look at the shoreline encroachment, that's high. So it's balancing out there. We recognize that both are important um but they're separated into
two separate factors. And is there not also an implication that that particular storm event was different than what the Army Corps
study says the elevation is. Well, I think um maybe continuing on with Wendy's response is the the damage was mostly related to the erosion and the erosion was worse there because
the shoreline encroachment value. There was less of a sand buffer there. So the erosion got back to reach the foundations and to undermine houses and cause damage as opposed to the elevation of the storm surge being so high that the water was coming right into say the
the second story of the building which would be that would be the damage caused if it was purely based on the elevation of the water from the storm sur. >> All right. >> Thank you. When you talk about the
infrastructure, you're talking about what specifically? >> So infrastructure would be either a household, the condominiums, a road critical infrastructure. Yes, >> that's what that's what I was getting to because there specifically in Wilbur in
my district, >> there was concern over three properties and not I'm not going to get too specific, but there were concern over those three properties. The erosion that we saw dismantled the houses completely. It didn't make it to the road, but there were concerns about the fact that the
erosion would go back into the road and therefore tear up A1A, >> which we could probably repair a lot cheaper than it would be to put a U seaw wall there. Thank you. So, uh, and I've said it so many times I forgot it. But
anyways, so that's what you're referring to mostly with that. Okay. >> Correct. And and the road is quite important too because that's a critical evacuation route. So >> exactly we didn't see that erosion go back that far. I mean it it stayed off and and since that time we've seen more
sand buildup yes by by their own design but also from the natural accretion of sand coming back. Okay. I know this is a little out of line, but I happened to have been driving down from uh Flaggler the other day along the
ocean and of course most of the road I mean it's like a a one-way street. Are they doing as much work or is that affecting your work in a positive or un positive way? Yes. So that project that's going on, I
believe you're referring to the FDOT project that's protecting A1A. So um they've installed a reinforced dune system there. So it has that final portion of protection protecting the road and that critical evacuation route
in front of that. They're also putting sand. So um that should help benefit the county because that sand is now actively in the system. So that's a plus. However, it is a small amount of sand. So, let me just take that question. So,
Flagler, the rest of the answer to that is uh just recently they've asked us to take a look at their entire shoreline just as we've done with you because they have a brand new uh federal shore protection project that's authorized and just got their first uh project done
about a year or so ago. it was completed. Uh really just the city of Flagler Beach is what was covered, but that leaves the rest of the county open to what about us. So we understand the connection of all these um I think it's
it's it's good that they have their flag beach project in. So if we get all of Aluchia done because again once these beach nourishment projects are done if a beach nourishment project is what you want if that material is sticking out a
100red yards further into the ocean than the rest of the adjacent beaches the physics of the waves the energy that's in the waves is to take that material first because that's what it gets to first. I mean it is what it is. So they are linked together. It's a great
question or what are my neighbors doing? So, we can talk about what Valuchia has asked for and what you want to do, but it's really important to make sure your neighbors are sort of in line. So, it it's it it's important that we work together.
>> Last question on protection >> kind of along the same lines of what Mara brought up and what you were just talking about. And on that table there, you showed Orman by the sea, I think, for the um infrastructure exposure is low, but in Orman by the Sea, that's a
part of A1A where DOT is working a onem portion there. And obviously only one mile. I don't know what the stretches for, you said, thousand feet. >> Yes. Each R monument is about a thousand feet. So that um or that stretch for
Orman by the Sea then I mean so that's a mile that that uh that seaw wall D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do D do DOT is putting in there so there is an infrastructure exposure there a pretty critical one um and I think did all you said you were looking at it did all that sand get washed away that they
put in Orma by the sea in front of the wall do you know >> yes and I know they've already brought some sand back too and replenished that um so >> so um what the gentleman there, Bill I think was was just talking about. I'm
north of that wall and so we're in an area where really there is no infrastructure exposure and it does show that the risk score is low because the um shoreline encroachment was low and the historical shoreline change rate is low and it really concerns me about
what's going to happen. I think I've spoken to a few people here about it. you know, just north of that wall and just south of that wall is natural dune. And how is that going to be protected in your plan? Or will it be? Maybe it's too much to ask now, but will it be
protected like monitored to make sure it doesn't keep eroding so that those two walls that are about three miles apart don't end up being one wall? >> Yeah. So, this year we're going to include that that wall has now been constructed in our annual beach monitoring plan. So the county goes out,
we collect that data and analyze it. So that will be included in our monitoring. Um and then also I know the state is looking at North Peninsula State Park and doing a project in the park. So um they're doing something to the north um to the south. Hopefully that will be
recognized in this plan. So if you really want to nerd out, and I'm talking about really nerd out, we have all of our profile monitoring plans posted online. Uh they're thrilling. If you want them, find me. I'll send you the link to them, but they are publicly
available. Uh the ones following the 22 storms were the most interesting. Um but yes. >> All right. Yes, thanks for that uh great discussion. And what we'll move next to is the next step which was the looking
at shoreline alternatives. So we're going to go through this part of the analysis. That's all those posters on that side of the room over there that will have even a bit more detail about what we're going to talk during the presentation. And then as we get through this phase, we'll pause again and have another opportunity for some uh
questions that anybody has related to this topic. So for the shoreline alternatives analysis, what we did is we investigated beach management alternatives and their applicability to the shoreline or to the county uh shoreline reaches. So, right
in the middle there, you'll notice we evaluated 10 different alternatives. And what we'll do in the next series of slides is go through each one of the alternatives and talk in in pretty good detail about specific aspects of each of those alternatives. And then as we work
through after I pass it to Wendy, we're going to get to the evaluation of these alternatives for each community and then culminate with some preliminary recommendations that are also on that last poster over there. So these um shoreline alternatives um
varied quite a bit and we wanted that we wanted to look at a diverse set of potential alternatives to help the county recognizing that different communities might have different solutions to the challenges that they're facing based on the different features and we know like has been mentioned the sand is different in Orman than it is
you know in the southern part of the county there's different aspects the burm height's different the there's a dune there's not a dune so that was all taken into consideration and also helped us develop the different alternatives that we looked at. So importantly, we're going to talk them going from an onshore
solution and then finishing at solutions that are further offshore. So as I go through these, it's not in any particular order of importance or ranking at this point. It is just on an onshore to offshore basis of where they would occur generally. And then also uh
we're going to talk about some benefits and drawbacks. And the just as I talk through those that the the number of those shown on the slide or uh the lack of a number um doesn't make an alternative better or worse. It really depends on the suitability of the
alternative and meeting u the goals and objectives that were defined by the county and then those objectives were um given different weights. Wendy will get into that in a little bit more detail. So, I don't want you to think just because one has more benefits listed that that means it's just the end all
and be all and better than the other ones. And then lastly, alternatives may be combined. So, it's not uncommon for an area to have maybe a beach nourishment project that then has an erosional hot spot or a certain feature where maybe there's some wave focusing or there's a certain bend in the
shoreline that requires some uh maybe some breakaters or an offshore reef or some other component to really make the management of that stretch of shoreline um you know work well. So just because uh we're talking about a specific alternative doesn't mean that that there
can't be combinations of alternatives ultimately that are developed when we think about how to um uh actively and you know well manage the shoreline along the county. All right. And then I've already kind of said it but you can
learn more at the posters. All right. So the first uh alternative that we'll talk about is the no action alternative. So this is the the do nothing approach. So the community and decision makers would decide to let nature take its course. So this is the primary function of this would be to
allow natural dynamics to proceed without intervention. And it's common within these types of alternatives analysis. The one option of doing something is doing nothing. And that happens to be here. So, if we were to think of a benefit, there's minimal environmental disruption um due to
there's no construction on the beach and and no um you know impact that way and there's also no direct cost. But there's an important caveat there where short-term benefits from taking no action and that no cost aspect of that
may create long-term risks and require future emergency features and measures that could be quite costly. So it's you know when we think about a long range plan this idea of no direct cost that's a no direct initial cost but it is a reality um that there is no cost
initially. Um and there uh when we look at the drawbacks point out you know the high risk potential for increased coastal erosion and inundation that could potentially lead to um uh loss of infrastructure based on the conditions
within the county. All right, moving next uh structural relocation. So this also occurs uh this occurs up uh at the location of the different infrastructure and it's relocating structures inland and
restoring the beach system to its natural state. So this can be seen by you know in some ways as a drastic measure. You're taking the infrastructure and removing it out of harm's way. So this um is done on a structure by ststructure basis but in
order for it to be um meaningful you would need to do it with many structures and that leads to some of the challenges that would be faced in implementing this um on a large scale. So the benefits um are you'd have reduced damages and risk
of life from elevated water levels and storms and the primary purpose of this specific alternative is to reduce the risk and to protect upland infrastructure. um drawbacks could be a disruption to the local economy and also leading to
accessibility and lifestyle disruptions certainly for the people that are you know being moved or the the houses within the community that end up being relocated. The important note here uh once again when you think about doing this at the community scale relocating structures on
a large scale necessitates new infrastructure to esta sustain those new communities even having a place to move them which isn't the easiest when you have a lot of development already in place. All right. Flood proofing and structural
elevation. So this these are solutions to protect from flooding including the use of flood barriers, raising the grade potentially or elevating structures on piles. So the primary function for this alternative is to implement both structural and nonstructural techniques
to protect against flooding. So the idea here is to either elevate the structure or maybe have some type of technique to create um you know a wall around certain structures or think of you know a small little levy or thing some something like
that. So the benefits here are reduce damages and risk of life from from elevated water levels. Similar to the idea of removing the structures here instead of removing it away from the beach you're trying to remove it upward out of that flood zone. Um there's
drawbacks associated with it. Accessibility to the houses. If you're elevated up, you know, 12 14 feet, then you got to get up 12 or 14 feet and down every time you're entering that structure. So there's aspects related to that. And this is another one that is uh
within the note highly feasible at the individual homeowner level, but to move the needle on a communitywide basis takes a lot of buy in, a lot of effort and and and you know that's one of the considerations that went into the scoring of this alternative.
All right, next we'll get to seaw walls. So a seaw wall is a wall installed at the landward edge of the beach parallel to the shore and designed to protect upland infrastructure. I would think most of you are familiar with seaw walls. There are um you know quite a few examples of different types of seaw
walls and their different techniques for construction as well as different elevations along the Valuchia County shoreline. Um, as noted there, the primary function here is to protect upland infrastructure and they do a very good job of protecting upland
infrastructure. Um, is they can also fail if they're not designed properly or if they're not maintained. Um, so there's that aspect to it as well. Um, so when we look at benefits versus drawbacks, uh, benefits primary purpose protecting upland infrastructure, they
can do that. They reduce damages and risk of life from elevated water levels. And while it doesn't say require no maintenance, it's minimal maintenance. It's something where if you design it well and build it well, then it's going to be there for, you know, quite a bit of time before you'd think about having
to replace it. Drawbacks. Um, uh, we see there's several listed. Uh, adjacent erosion due to wave reflection or wave refraction is common and may negatively impact shorelines. So, uh, ideally with a seaw
wall, what you want that is you want that located outside of the active surf zone. As soon as your seaw wall is being impacted by either high tides or elevated water levels that frequently occur during um, norers or even minor
storms, that uprush of wave energy that typically occurs on a sloping beach and gravity kind of slows it down and it peters out. it can drop sand and then you know there's an undertoe that goes back down. That's a natural process where on a uh a well functioning beach where you
have a dune and a burm that beach can have sand moved away during a storm and moved back onshore during non-storm events. When you have a seaw wall at the end of your beach that's being impacted by the water, what happens is all that energy runs right into a vertical wall
and all that energy turns into turbulence. kind of kicks up and it's going to grab that sand and then gravity is going to take that sand and water and move it back down. So, an exposed seaw wall that's in the active surf zone actually causes more erosion than if
that seaw wall wasn't there. So, what you what you want to have with your seaw wall is you want that outside of the active water level. And the way to do that is to if you have one in place, you need that sand buffer. So Jacksonville is actually a good example where we're from. The city of Jacksonville and
Jacksonville Beach actually has a seaw wall at the end of the beach. You just would never know it was there unless you were back in Jacksonville Beach in the late 70s when there was no beach and it was rocks. And the way to get out to surf and stuff was to jump off the rocks and you know go into the water. There
was actually no beach. There was a seaw wall there that was constructed because um the infrastructure that was built right on the dune started having storm damages. And if we go back even further, the reason those houses were built on the dune was because in the, you know,
20s, 30s, 40s, they actually drove up and down Jacksonville Beach. There was even car races like down here in Valuchia County in Jacksonville. Then what they did is they dredged the St. John's River. Its natural depth was say 10 to 15 feet. when they wanted to have the port and the infrastructure there,
they dredged the channel to over 30 feet. They put in two-m long jetties and they cut off the sand supply to Jacksonville Beach. So, in the decades after that, each storm without the sand supply came in and each one, you know, took a little chunk out of the beach. There was erosion, erosion, erosion. So,
the people that built on the dune and thought they had this great wide beach, all of a sudden it got closer and closer and closer until they said, "To protect our properties, we need to put in a seaw wall." And they did. The erosion kept happening. The water came right up to the seaw wall. They dumped rocks.
There's pictures of like washing machine similar to the school bus that was found. I mean, they did some interesting things back then. But what ended up happening was there was no beach whatsoever and they had their seaw wall. What Jacksonville was able to do because
it's a federal navigation channel related to the um St. John's River is they were able to get a federal shore protection project. So now there's a 10mi beach nourishment project that's been in place since the late 70s and they nourish that beach every six to
eight years. So if you go up and look at the Jacksonville beach, you'd say, "Wow, this is a great there's a nice dune. It's vegetated. There's a nice, you know, some cases 80 to 100 feet before you get to the water level." You wouldn't even know that there's a seaw wall buried back in that dune. And
that's the best place for a seaw wall, the last line of defense. And if there's a major catastrophic storm or let's say three or four years of just, you know, unusual storm activity, it's going to be there to protect your infrastructure. But as soon as it gets exposed to the
water column frequently, those high tides or those elevated water levels during frequent storms, now you have a problem where that seaw wall is actually deflating your beach and not going to help um, you know, in an overall idea of meeting some of the community's goals of
being able to recreate on the beach. I see you have a question. Is it possible to wait till we're done? Okay. Okay. Okay. Is that right? We wait till or we can let's Jessica says let's do it. All right. Okay. So, Jessica's very familiar with
it. So, um in Daytona Beach Shores, we more or less required people to do a seaw wall. Uh they had to go through D with certain um specifications. Sometimes it didn't work. They told them how tall, how deep, everything. Did we
not do them a service by requiring the seaw walls to be replaced? So if you had an existing seaw wall and it was damaged in in Daytona Beach Shores, we had 127 seaw walls that failed. Um, again requiring them to put them back up and
like for like did we not do them a favor? So this is where it gets a little bit complicated because if if you can imagine a shoreline where every other property had a seaw wall then now what you've done is you've created gaps in the seaw walls where one of the spots
where seaw walls are most vulnerable is when they get flanked in the middle. So if you have a situation where it's a patchwork of seaw walls, it creates its own set of problems with with flanking and erosion in kind of the weak spots because as as uh Jim mentioned is that
as those waves come in, they're going to kind of eat at whatever they can eat at to, you know, reduce their energy. So those gaps in the seaw walls, you know, can cause their own problems. And that's, you know, it's it's one of those things where once you've built the first few, then you have different decisions
to make than if there was all a natural dune or if it was like one property and it was just one continuous seaw wall. That would be the that would be the strongest situation, but individual property owners are going to build their own seaw walls, so they connect them
together. And looks like you're >> you did something wrong. >> No. So, so where you were at following the 22 storms is you had condos, high-rise condos, and you also had single family homes that were declared
unsafe structures and people could not occupy them. You were in what we call a critical state. You are having a heart attack on the table and you need something to keep you alive. Um, that's where you're at right now. The state of Florida Department of Environmental
Protection regulates seaw walls, which we've all come to to realize following the 22 hurricanes. They have a clause in their coastal construction control line program that if you have a planned sand placement project or a nourishment
program or for any reason the sand is coming to your beach within about 9 months, they will not approve a seaw wall. We didn't have that. um you are at a critical nature. Once we get through our beach management plan and each community determines what their
solution's going to be, then it may be up to the cities and and maybe you you refine your building codes and your uh zoning setbacks and and your land development codes to match your vision. >> Would there ever be a time that we would take down those existing?
>> I would never recommend that. >> Right. So yes, thank you for the question. And the idea of having them as that last line of defense is the reason why not to to pull them out unless they're deteriorating to such a point where they're putting
debris on the beach or, you know, something like that. But otherwise, um, combined, as I mentioned, there can be combinations of solutions. But having that seaw wall, if it's already there, combined with a beach nourishment program that has a dune that's vegetated, and Wendy showed the profile
picture with the burm sloping down can be, you know, a very nice situation to have because you have that insurance policy of if it was a a supertorm, it's going to protect the infrastructure. Yeah. Sorry about that. I did have one more question. Obviously, the dynamic of the
Daytonaby Shores area with all the condos being contingent with each other and then some areas as you go back and I'm going to go back to Wilbur by the Sea areas that are more residential, just single family homes, the benefits of returns on those seaw walls are
there. I mean because I I guess I look at it from a layman's term or perspective that I see a wall and they require return if the property adjacent to it does not have a seaw wall but all I see is water encroaching around it and
coming back and eroding the sand that is placed behind the seaw wall and I know there's a scientific way and I just don't understand it. So Wendy, do you want to go ahead?
>> So you ask on the return on investment. What what we come back to? Oh, the return on the seaw wall. Yes. I'll give that to Wendy. >> Uh so those return walls are quite important because if they weren't there
and the water gets right behind right away, then it will most likely fail and that will be catastrophic. So that at least provides a little bit more time. Yeah. Yeah. Ideally, the returns are long enough that the water won't get
around. Um but again, it's hard to control nature. Um especially when you're in such a vulnerable situation. So those are very important features. Um and they >> exactly better if you had nothing. So
>> Right. And just a little nuance to that though is when you put that, you know, your your seaw wall and you put your return wall in, it does provide a vertical surface for when the wave energy gets up that high to hit that wall and reflect to the adjacent
properties. So that's another situation where um you know a property owner um you know could affect the adjacent property owner if that >> is there. >> So when
yeah so great questions. Um so I always get to step in when has nothing to do with engineering. So, um, last year, year and a half, uh, Chris and I actually did expert witness testimony for a community in Flaggler
County. Um, they had 12, uh, 12 neighbors wanted to put in a seaw wall in accordance with the DP's newest rules. Um, there was a six-foot
easement between two of the properties mostly in the middle. Um they refused to have the seaw wall and the design had to be changed
to leave a six-foot gap in the seaw wall because that person was against what we actually don't know what was going through that person's mind. Um, so we actually had them redesign or our
recommendation to them was to redesign the seaw wall for return walls, which it really depends on the height and the rest. And so that's the engineering, the math part. So it's about 25 to 50 feet. It really depends on what your flanking was. So I think what they ended up doing
here was because it was only six foot gap. Um, believe it or not, they had 25 ft return walls and I think on the ends they were a little bit longer, 30 or so where the that 12 home community just
left. So, while we're presenting what we believe are decent engineering choices for you, um the other part of this, unfortunately, is the legal part of we
have to follow the rules. And who would believe that that rule would endanger everyone else? But we can only control what we can control. And so I don't know if that was a great answer to your question, but
>> right so >> we recommended that the wall be continuous and then we had to defend that and defend the DP's ruling um based on science. So fortunately the judge said I agree and that was good enough for all of us.
>> Okay. I I I I don't know who's here from Wilbur by the Sea, but I'm four blocks from I mean four buildings uh north of Wilbur by the Sea in the uh last part of Daytona Beach Shore. So I'm very very familiar with what's going on in Wilbur
by the Sea. Uh and it's a hodge podge. Uh especially now with the BMS in, it's even worse because they didn't connect anything with with what already was there. And if you've looked closely, you see these ravine-like things where the
burm ends and it just goes down and and forms a gully. Fortunately, now it didn't get all the way up to there. But some of the people have a seaw wall, some of the people don't have a seaw wall, some of the people are this far away from the beach. Some people are
that far away from the beach. It's literally a mess from what I can see, you know, realistically. and and it and it looks terrible, too. There's no continuity or anything with it. I I don't know what they're going to do about that. But the company who put in
those BMS needs to be sued because they did a disastrous job. And you know, where I am, uh four of us have have uh have handicap ramps and they they wouldn't even fill those in. They said they didn't have the the manpower or the machinery to be able to go under there.
So naturally we our stuff just got washed away and you know I said well what's going to happen when it goes over the bur and into the beh underneath my ramp? Well it'll percolate is what he said. Uh so you know basically
fortunately the the six weeks of waves made it so that it took it all away and it could go back down. But I mean you know and it's it's hitting our seaw wall. Uh but basically it it's it's just uh when the neighbors don't all do the
same or they don't do it properly then then it can have uh terrible ramifications. >> Yes. And and we recognize that and consistently recommend a a unified solution and hopefully that's where this plan will get us to is a unified larger
scale solution to implement throughout the county's communities. So I think at this time we're going to keep working through our alternatives and then we can discuss more afterwards. >> Once again thanks for the uh great discussion. We'll um have some time for
questions uh at the end of this segment as well. So I think we got on um seaw walls we will move on to revetments. So, revetments are a series of rock structures placed parallel to the beach designed to dissipate the wave energy.
So, their primary function is to decrease wave energy uh during increased water level. So, we can think of a revetment as a seaw wall, but instead of being vertical, it's a rock structure that is then going to have a slope and so then take up a larger footprint along
the beach. And since it's porous, when that wave energy comes up, instead of hitting a vertical wall that's solid like a seaw wall, the wave energy can dissipate into those rocks and it does not cause the degree of erosion that can occur right at the base of a seaw wall
when it's exposed. In an ideal case, um you would have some sort of sand buffer in front of this. you wouldn't want it exposed at all times, but it does have the benefit of decreasing the wave energy um uh that would be impacting the shoreline um from the drawbacks. If the
system is sand starved like we have here in Valuchia County, the beach may not accrete in front of it. So, you would just have this continuous case of there's just a rock, basically a rock wall that the water level is going to come up to. It's not adding anything to increase the recreational opportunities
on the beach. And it does provide limited storm protection. And so depending on the size of the rocks and how robustly it's designed, that all relates to the cost of it. Then during storms and really elevated water levels, it's going to uh have a varying amount of storm protection provided by a
revment. All right. Beach nourishment. This is the placement of sand along the beach um including the dune and the burm and the nearshore areas to extend the beach seawward. The primary function here is to add sediment to the system to reduce
risk and increase recreation. So as shown in the picture, if you see like the lighter color sand, the idea is to increase the robustness of the dune or create a dune and then oops going back increase the width of the beach berm and then that's going to extend out even to
areas you can't see because they're in the nearshore zone. So the benefits, as you can see here, there's there's quite a few. Um, importantly, it does add sand to the system. It benefits by extending the adjacent shoreline with the sand moved ultimately not only crossshore but
long shore. So, at the end of these projects, communities that aren't nourished can also receive benefits due to the natural longshore sediment transport processes that can happen. They decrease wave energy impacting the pre-RO shoreline and that reduction in
wave energy helps protect the upland infrastructure. So the natural process of these beaches would be during a storm there could be erosion of the burm or during a severe storm even up to the edge of the dune that sand moves offshore creating bars. those bars trip
the wave energy so there's less wave energy running up and and then you know further impacting the beach and then after the storm when you have a period of lower waves longer period waves kind of calm conditions that beach uh bar will weld back onto your burm and then
ultimately up to the higher parts of the burm and then when we have wind processes it can even build your dune. The problem that we have is that the erosion from a storm can occur over six hours or maybe even six days for the case of a noraster that's gonna, you know, churn up the beach over several
high tides. The recovery process can take weeks to months or in the case of building a dune through wind, that can take, you know, on the many months up to years. One thing that Florida's east coast has experienced over the last several years is just a lot of storm
activity with not a lot of time for beach recovery. So what happens is the beach is an eroded state before it can recover. The next set of elevated water levels and waves happens which just takes another slug of sand and moving it offshore. And unlike the period between
2004 and 2016 when we had no major storms, we had the longest period without a landfalling storm in Florida's history going back as far as they can, you know, measure. The last several years have been very active, not only with the hurricanes, but especially with
the um low pressure systems and norers that have really caused a lot of erosion. So, that was a little bit of a side there maybe, but um importantly having enough sand in the system to be able to move offshore during the storms and back onshore is critical. And right
now, Valuchia County, as we've mentioned, is in a sand starve condition. Over 6 million cubic yards lost just during the 2022 um hurricane season. So, this al is one of the two alternatives that gets sand back into the system to allow those natural
processes to occur. Um the other things that we have is listed there um in curious dune resilience. It's um uh provides habitat. So we know sea turtle nesting, shorebird nesting, things like that aren't going to happen on a beach
with a seaw wall that's very deflated and is wet during high tide. There is no opportunity for nesting of either the turtles or successful nesting of either the turtles or the um uh birds. And then it provides recreation opportunity
whether that is walking on the beach, sunbathing or driving which we know is important. This is one of the aspects or the main aspect that will really provide a a very large and immediate increase to that recreational opportunity on the beach. Drawbacks uh increased
maintenance may be required over other alternatives. So this is known as sacrificial sand. It is not going to be there forever. It will stay in the system generally, but your beach berm will move back over time as it spreads longshore and equilibrates in the
crossshore. So there's a periodic renourishment interval that's assigned to these projects. Usually uh most large projects it's say 5 to eight years is the nourishment interval, but that's going to be dependent on the storm activity. In some cases it's longer, in some cases it's shorter. And the other
thing that's important is usually there's a larger initial project volume to fill in the design template along the shoreline and then five to eight years later there's certain spots that really need to be renourished. There's other spots that don't. So the renourishments
typically aren't as large as the initial nourishment for the project. Another thing to note, this has been Florida's preferred management strategy going back um uh a few decades now. if you you know 70s 80s seaw walls were kind of the
thing and then what they realized is those seaw walls were removing the recreational beach which was why people were you know coming to Florida and like to have that aspect so beach nourishment projects um are quite common in Florida. All right, groins. So what a groin is is
a rock structure that is perpendicular to the shore intended to show to slow shore sand transport. So that's the sand along the beach and usually they're done in a series of multiple groins called a groin field. It's not very common to just see a single groin. So their
primary function is to reduce erosion along the shoreline. And I want to point out the difference between a groin and a jetty. You may have heard of jetties before. So jetties occur at inlets. They're usually much larger. They're used to control the location of that inlet and also to control the flow of
water or to modify the flow of water through the through the inlet. So, um, a groin is a smaller structure usually done in a series along a more straight um, continuous section of beach and some of you I've heard some people mention they're from New Jersey. Those people
are probably quite familiar with groins. They have been used up there for a while. So they can lead to sand accumulation in the vicinity of the groins, but the only time you're going to have accumulation of sand is if there's enough sand to be moving around.
In Valuchia County, Valuchia Countyy's current situation, there's not a lot of sand to move around. And any sand that gets trapped on one side of the groin is just robbing that sand that would be moving along shore, and you're going to have an erosive signal on the other side of that structure. So you'd end up with
a scallop shoreline which is usually why they're put in a series. Um so that's I guess I got to the drawbacks there. Adjacent erosion due to uh wave reflection wave refraction is common and negatively impacts the adjacent shorelines and if it's the system is
sand starve there's really no beach to accrete around these. So in some locations they have a growing field and then they fill that groin field with sand. So it's one of those combination solutions. But when we think about Valuchia Countyy's objectives, um a good part of the recreational component is
that driving. Trying to drive on a beach with groins um is not something that's going to happen. So once again, that gets back to the looking at on a community by community basis. Developing and tailoring solutions that are specific to what Valuchia County wants
in the individual um uh communities is what we're working uh to do here. Um the other thing that is important with with groins is um you know once again this gets back to the scaling on a communitywide um nature. This is going to be hard to
implement but maybe there's a small pocket somewhere with a specific features and a couple groins might help shore up the shoreline at the end of a literal system which is you know near an inlet or near some other feature. A change in the shoreline orientation. So, we're not saying that they're never
appropriate, but we're evaluating whether they're appropriate for the conditions we have in the communities here. Uh, next, nearshore sand placement. So, this is sand placed in the nearshore for wave action to move it onshore. Um, the primary function is to
add sediment to the system to reduce to reduce risk. You'll see this little blob right there. So that is below the water line and it's like having a beach nourishment project but instead of placing the sand on the dry beach you're placing it in five to 20 feet of water
and then allowing nature to move that sand around either forming bars or in some cases that sand moves onshore increases your burm width provides that storm protection and recreation. The problem is you're really letting nature
and what happens after you place it dictate the benefits that you're going to receive and where they're going to be. Because in some cases, if you place the sand and you don't have the right conditions for long enough for that sand to move all the way onshore, you might not get a recreational benefit from that
sand. You have improved your storm protection. you've increased sediment moving into the system, but you're not going to then necessarily meet some of the goals of having that recreational space guaranteed. So, uh benefits add sands to the system, decrease wave
energy impacting the shore and upland infrastructure, but it's um uh e efficacy is dependent on the placement depth and then the wave conditions afterwards to where that sand ultimately ends up. All right, breakwaters. So here
we have a structural solution which is a series of nearshore rock structures designed to break wave energy and to potentially encourage sediment accretion near those structures if there's enough sediment moving around. The primary function is to decrease wave energy
impacting the shoreline and when it decreases that wave energy. So the waves coming from offshore will hit the shallower depth caused by the breakwater and they will break here instead of breaking on the beach. So you end up with what we call a shadow zone of
decreased wave energy. And here that decreased wave energy area can have sand accumulate. But in a case like we're at right now in Valuchia County where there's not a lot of sand moving around, if sand accumulates there, it's going to have an erosive signal usually in a
shore just updrift. Oh dear, did it again. Um, all right. Um, I'm not going to use the laser pointer anymore. So, either updrift or downdrift, you're going to have erosive signals because there's not a lot of sand moving around. The other
aspect of these is that they're very expensive. So, if you're placing these out in 10 or 20 feet of water and it's going to need to be very large rocks so that when they have hurricane type waves that can occur out there and the rocks aren't moving around, you have a stable
structure, you need very large rocks. And then if you're going to have that to go up in the water column enough to meaningfully reduce the wave energy, they need to have a very wide footprint because they're going to have slopes on the sides. So to have these as a communitywide solution would be very
expensive. Um it take a lot of resources, but they could be implemented once again as one of those um combined solutions. And they've done this in South Florida where you have an erosional hot spot. There's a focusing of wave energy in a certain area on the beach. You put these out there just in
that small area, maybe two or three structures, but not as a communitywide solution to um to implement over miles of coast. All right. And then nearshore artificial reefs. This is our last one. So this is a a series of components intended to
enhance biodiversity, dissipate waves, and potentially encourage sediment accretion. The primary function is related to habitat. So these structures are think of maybe like smaller breakwaters. They're placed in the nearshore. They're submerged. They have a lot of relief to them.
Sometimes they're you may have heard of things called like reef balls. They're the little almost like circular shapes with holes in them. You could have fish or other, you know, um organisms that are going to be either on them or swimming around them. Oftentimes they're put parallel to the shoreline in rows
such as shown in the um drawing. And you can see this is that idea of a reef ball with a little holes in it. And um uh the benefits are they can have some level of decreased wave energy, but usually they sit pretty low in the water column. So
the amount of wave um energy decrease they present is relatively small and they have a relatively small impact then on the on the storm protection as well as the shoreline effects behind them and they don't do anything really to um deal with the recreation uh recreational
aspects on the beach. And with that I'm going to pass it over to Wendy. Do you want to stop for questions? Yeah, before we go into our ranking of each one of these alternatives, we'll take a break and see if anyone has any questions about these
10 alternatives. Next, we'll get ranking and preliminary recommendations. So when we say sand starved, and I think that's all of Valuchia County beaches, what does that
starvation do for surfing, for uh driving on the beach? Um like I bicycle on the beach and I know news is getting way too soft to do that. So, I'm wondering about the sand placement, the sand starvation, and how that impacts
the recreational side. >> Right. So, um what the beach surveys have shown and we've mentioned there's a countywide program. It takes them yearly. So, we can look at the um shoreline position as well as things underwater where the bars are, how big
they are, and things. What we noticed was a at that 22 2022 hurricane season caused a loss of around 6 million cubic yards of material um eroded outside of the profiles that were seen before that. So when we're talking sand starved,
there's not a lot of of sand kind of in the system and and moving um kind of having elevated BMS or or dune features where when storms come they can move the sediment around. I understand the idea of the um compaction of the sand and
being able to drive on it or um uh even bike even bike on it. Yes. And that relates to some of that crossshore transport processes that we've had. When the sand moves back onshore, it's not really compacted. It's a little bit looser. Um Valuchia or you know Daytona
Beach is known for having a very flat profile. The driving on the beach, it's different if you go up to Orand where the geology is different. You have the more cinnamon colored orange rocks related to the rock outcroppings up there. The waves cause that to break up and that's you know one of the aspects
of um you know just the overall geology related to it. But when it's the sand starved it's the amount of erosion that's happened recently and the amount of material that's moving in the system in the active profile to accrete and and reform the burm and the dune features um
that you'd want in kind of a a healthy beach system. And did you want to add anything to that, Wendy, or do you think that covered it? >> I I think that covered it quite well. And notably, following hurricanes Ian and Nicole, some of those profiles that we were seeing, the beach burm where you
do recreate that decrease in elevation was 10 feet or greater. So that is a huge decrease and a very large amount of sand. Hi, I actually had two questions. So the first question is which um solution
would be coina rock which would what what would that fall under placing co coina rock in place of a seaw wall. >> So that >> I would think that would be most that would be placed up near where the the dune and the seaw walls would be. Yes.
>> Is that so that would be closest to a rock revetment where the rocks would be the coina rock instead of granite or some type of other rock material. >> Okay. And we did have um 31 homes between Frank Rendan Park and St. Kits Condo that elected to do that and
petitioned DP. Took a lot of approval and a lot of time because that's not something they wanted to do and then they put sand on top of it. I'll reach back out to Jessica to see how successful that was. And then uh my next question is um the breakwaters and the
artificial reefs all of the alternates that you have here alternatives are these all approved. So the breakwaters would DP is that an approved all of these are approved >> all all 10 um one of the like first
criteria is it viable to be permitted because if it can't be permitted it can't be constructed and then it's not a viable solution. So that doesn't mean that they all have the same level of rigor and cost to get the permit, but they all have been permitted in Florida
and are are potentially solutions um for the county. >> Okay. Do you happen to know offhand where like a break because I do like both of those, the breakwaters and the artificial reefs. Are those used anywhere on our coast in Florida?
>> Uh yes. So they have been used um uh along Florida's east coast which is best comparison because the Gulf has completely different waves and tides. But yes, both uh offshore breakwaters as well as um nearshore reefs for shore protection and modifying have been used
to to varying levels of success. So there's some projects that have been constructed and deemed success. There's been other ones that did not meet their design goals and because of that they had to be pulled out at the cost of the people that put them in because that's part of the permit requirement is if you
end up negatively impacting the shoreline based on the monitoring then you're on the hook to remove it. >> Hi, thank you very much. This presentation is wonderful. Um we've been talking about the accretion of the sand going back and forth. um what would be
the best solutions if a particular problem with the sands moving laterally, >> right? So the the the the solution here that can structural solution that controls lateral movement would be the
groins because what they do is if I can use the laser without messing things up. Cannot. Um, so the sand that moves along the shore, what gets trapped on the on the in this case most often the north side of the of the groin and what that
does is um can cause a little bit of erosion on the south side of the groin. And that's why I've usually done in a series where it becomes kind of a scallop shoreline. The one of the challenges here with with groins when they're exposed is it does cause problems with recreation on the beach.
not so much just going out and sitting on it, but running or walking and certainly driving has challenges related to having those structures because they do um back up um you know, usually they go a little bit even further back than is shown in the
drawing there. There we're kind of trying to convey it's buried. So usually they're buried for a certain stretch and then they become exposed and as the beach is either in more of an accreted or eroded condition you would see more or less you know of that of that
feature. No, that you uh you captured it very well. Typically, these are done in closed systems where either that are at the end of a coastal system at maybe the terminus where you're about to end into an inlet and you're losing a ton of sand
at the inlet. Instead of just having a single jetty, sometimes they'll put a series of these or in, you know, say more like the Caribbean islands and smaller little pocket beaches, you could have these if there's a lot of sand moving along the shore on a long stretch
of open similar oriented coastline. These would cause likely more problems than they would they would solve because they don't provide any storm protection when the waves and storm surge comes in like a breakwater would. They're not
going to stop, you know, trip the wave energy. Um, so they're not providing any of that storm benefit. It's all in the name of that long shore and really the county wants longshore transport. I mean, that's something in a healthy beach system, you're going to have that natural motion of sediment, not only, as
you said, across the shore during storms, but along the shore over time. When the waves come in at a little bit of an angle, each sand grain moves up at an angle and then straight back down. So, it does that 200 times. It moves, you know, along the shore, which is why we're starting to see some of the Orman Beach, you know, cinnamon colored sand
even down into Daytona and Daytona Beach shores. That's just that natural transport. And we should point out it does go south to north as well in certain conditions when there's certain weather systems and the waves are coming in at that angle. It doesn't only move in a single direction. It does move in
both, but the predominant direction is typically north to south. So yes, that is a a good point. These are um similar to what I saw in the other ones for a long stretch on a communitywide solution standpoint having a groin field is not
you know it's expensive and it's not going to meet a lot of the goals which is why when we we're almost there when we get to the evaluation of each of these on the objectives that Wendy's going to get into. They didn't score as high as many of the other solutions. I've heard about a technology. I don't
know the official name. I'll call it electrifying the sand. And I've heard it's been used over in Tampa. I don't know anything about it, but why was it not included in any of your alternatives? >> So, um, yes. So, that technology uses a
low-level electrical current and in doing so, it it's it's relatively new, at least to my understanding. In doing so, it causes uh a a chemical reaction really that causes the the sand and some of the seawater to solidify and basically make the beach a little bit
more erosion resistant. So I am not aware of that being applied on a a very large scale and it also ties back to right now the county is in such a sand starved environment that we have high tide water levels reaching up and kissing the seaw walls which is only
causing further erosion. So, with 37 miles of beach that we're trying to manage, um, you know, I think I'm I'm honestly curious to see where that technology is going to go in the future. Maybe it could be used in small areas just before a storm, but in terms of a
long-term, you know, approach that the county is working towards to manage the 37 miles. These are solutions that can solve that. And getting back to the idea I've mentioned a few times now, the hybrid solution, maybe in the future as that technology evolves, there'd be a
way to implement that in smaller smaller chunks. >> So I think you hit all three as I was sitting here. First off, with with respect to the entire beach, obviously hybrid approaches may work. I don't know some areas like Pon Inlet where there's
no driving ruins may work. Um, but I also know recreationally it it's an obstacle. I know that you talked about other areas along the eastern seabboard that have uh say the um uh the artificial reefs or whatnot.
Has there been instances reported of boat wreckage or whatever because of that? Uh has there been issues with groins people getting hurt? You know, because we are well visited here, maybe probably more
in some areas. And then the last question, um, I noticed on some of the groins, I saw a presentation a while back because you just hit it with the south to north sand direction because, you know, in a perfect world, it would just come in from the east to west, but it doesn't.
So, that being said, a lot of sand compiles on those groins in one area, one property, and then starves the one adjacent to it. And that's a concern as well. Correct. >> Correct. And that's one reason why they're hard to permit because you have to prove that you're not going to have a
downdrift impact, you could imagine, you know, if um homeowners were doing uh solutions and then they were adversely affecting their neighbors, there'd be a whole bunch of lawsuits and things like that. So seeing around that every you know groin field or solution is part of getting your permit you have to document
that you've done the work and have a solution or a mechanism to mitigate any adjacent impacts that you would have related to um people climbing on the rocks. I mean, I I remember seeing signs in usually like stay off the rocks now.
Now, now whether people are going to stay off the rocks or not and if they get up there and slip and fall, whether they're going to, you know, >> Yeah. what they're going to do. And then we do have on there as a drawback that navigational hazard to boers and swimmers. That really depends on how
deep they are and how big they are. And then different requirements for either markings or things like that. the the the reefs are usually low enough to where you know they're not um you know going to be causing any boats for the ones that would be that close to shore.
Yeah. county. >> Correct. If this would be a county application when we're looking at a community scale. Um, two things I want to bring up based on the discussion just to be very clear.
You can permit anything, but just like if you were building um a very large imperous building or structure on a parcel of land and it was full of wetlands, you're going to pay to mitigate for the wetlands impacted, but
you could still get there to build it. And if it's not something similar to local government, if it's not something that the regulators are se have seen and it's not something that has been proven, then it's going to take longer to permit it.
It's going to cost more money to permit it and they will most likely require you to remove it at your cost should it not do the intended benefits. Um, you can permit anything. There was uh some groins and some uh
buried walls that were permitted that were required to be removed. I believe it was Martin County is notorious for dumping tires. It may be the wrong county. I think it's Martin County. The bunch of tires that they dumped offshore as a reef and then they were required to remove all those
tires because they floated around everywhere. Um that's all I wanted to say. Thank you. Uh, two quick questions. Would the coastline shape of Valuchia County not
need to be factored into the analysis of your alternatives? And what I mean by that is if you're in Ponlet and you look to the north, you know, Daytona Beach is way out to the east. So the question is
as we're looking at the alternatives for each municipality, would that not need to be factored into their decision? Mother nature a lot of times I'll call Jessica and say mother nature's been back at it in Pon inlet because our our sand is naturally coming back as you've
explained. And I'll ride my bicycle before we started the beach restoration program. I'd ride my bike up to Daytona Beach Shores and I was looking at seaw walls and flat sand. And so to me, that needs to be factored in in my opinion to
each individual municipality's decision. The last question I have surfers uh last night uh at the meeting in Daytona Beach Shores, there was a surfing group there. there. I don't know if they came up and talked to you or not, but they caught me and they want to know what's going to be
the least impactful um structure that we're looking at as far as alternative structures because of the surfing and again I don't surf but but it is a big impactful thing we have in ponds and new Smyrna. So is there
anything that would be the least impactful for the surfing organization? >> Right. Do you want to go? You go. So the the first question, yes. Uh individual community aspects related to either shape or proximity to the inlet, those
types of components and and features will be um considered within the alternatives or were considered within the alternatives that were selected and certainly would be included within the design of the potential solution. So it's not a tailored there's a one beach
nourishment design that's going to be applied all the way up or down the county. they'll be sight specific by community and take into things like the sand grains, the beach width, the whether there's a dune or not and and aspects like that. So certainly um for surfing um you know anything you know
the least impactful for surfing would be structure relocation, right? Anything that's done up on the land that doesn't do anything offshore would be the alternatives that don't affect surfing. um and stuff that is uh changing the the sediment in the system could have some
impact. Now, beach nourishment has been done um in areas where there's a fair amount of surfing. And what it does, it just gets especially here sand back into the system where it can move naturally back and forth. There will be situations where bars are either there or not
there. Right now, there's a lot of sand moved much further offshore. the most impactful to surfing would be that nearshore placement because in that case you're just purposely taking large quantities, you know, hundreds of thousands of cubic yards of material potentially and dumping it in that
nearshore. So, that would be the most impactful. And I would say, you know, the there's ones that have no impact, but those also don't meet a lot of the goals of the um you know, that the county set. I I will say the 2019 nearshore placement that the Army Corps
did in New Smyrna Beach uh between Sapphire and Crawford created the dredge wedge which was a local hot spot and everybody loved it and only the locals knew about it because they didn't tell anybody until Surf Line showed up with it. Um the two most popular areas for
surfing are Peiers and jetties because it creates wave refraction and that's what makes the wave. Anytime you have an obstacle in the nearshore area, what that does is it forces the wave to pop up and that's what creates the wave that
we want to surf. Um, Valuchia is known for surfing. We are the most consistent wave on the east coast. I think my husband would divorce me if I messed that up. Um, so that surfing is very much in our our the back of our mind as we try and cater
our solutions. What I can say is um we're going to be very mindful of what we do on our solutions to not negatively impact the surfing quality and hopefully improve the surfing quality for our shoreline.
>> And again, you know, great presentation set through it last night. Wonderful. Back for more today. But I think having part of that somewhere in the presentation would go a long way because that is a pretty big powerful group out there and it does generate dollars and
again like the turtle impact you know we have that in there where environmental impact. So just a suggestion. >> Yes. And and notably too to add on to that sand placement activities those are natural solutions. So one day sand might be in one spot there might be a really
great wave and another day it might be gone. So uh that will eb and flow with with the waves and the local environment. So those are natural solutions that that will come and go just as a wave does now. Okay.
All right. So moving on. How did we rank these solutions and uh choose what our preliminary recommendations are for the county? So Chris just went through a lot of background information that we compiled on each one of these
alternatives. Uh that included what is its function, what are the benefits and drawbacks associated with it. Uh we also have a section on risk and uncertainty. Each one of these alternatives have different amounts of risk and uncertainty. Some are greater than
others. What are social considerations such as being able to surf? How the community uses the beach? That's very important to take into account. And again, is it feasible at a large scale? We're looking at communitywide solutions.
We also took into account design and maintenance needs, permitting. As Jessica said, almost anything's permittable, but it varies as to how easy or difficult it is to permit these solutions and cost.
So, we worked with Jessica and her team here at the county uh to define study objectives to help us rank each one of these alternatives. This includes reducing coastal storm damages to structures, critical infrastructure and cultural resources. We want to keep
those houses safe and those roads safe. Also to re reduce risk of natural resource loss that is the erosion of sand and the subsequent degradation of habitat as well. Reduce risk to life. Safety. People need to be safe. Top priority there. Avoid impact to
recreation. Being able to bike on the beach, walk on the beach, surf, swim. Very important. Minimize impacts to threatened and endangered species and their habitats. The sea turtle nesting habitat. That's huge. So important here. As well as shorebirds, um, and any other
marine mammals. And importantly, as Chris mentioned previously, we need to comply with all federal, state, and local policies and regulations. If we can't permit something, even though most things we can permit, but we need to be able to permit it hopefully in a a quick
fashion um in order to accomplish anything. So, with each one of these alternatives and each one of these objectives, we ranked them either as fully meets objective, partially meets, or does not meet. Again, your eyes are not going
bad, but I want to walk you through this table first. Across the top, we have each one of our objectives. And just below that, we have a waiting. These are weighted slightly differently um based on some importance levels that we set with the county. Um on the left side,
you have each one of the alternatives and we assign point values based on whether or not they met the objective. So fully meets receive two points, partially one and does not meet zero points. We then applied a multiriteria
decision analysis approach and the maximum score that any alternative could receive is two points. So maximum of two points. Um coming in as our first top ranked alternative is beach nourishment with 1.85 points. So very close to those
two points. Um the only score it did not get fully meets in is minimize impacts to threatened and endangered species and their habitats. This is just a temporary caveat. Construction may have some impacts. Those are all monitored for during construction and that's all taken
into account while permitting. Um but that's why we didn't rank it as fully meats in that category. It's just a temporary impact possibly. Next we have structural relocation coming in at 1.5 points. Close behind
that is nearshore sand placement with 1.45 points. And then tied for that fourth ranked position, we have breakwaters and nearshore artificial reefs. Two very similar structures um with some similar
themes and common goals there. And they come in at 1.1 out of two points. So just another way to look at this and we have a poster over on the right if you prefer to visualize um this data and
these results. These radar plots help um depict each solution's contribution to the objective. So a larger area in this plot means that it's more likely to meet the contribution to objectives that we set and their weights. So um please
check out that poster if you'd like to visualize it for all 10. This is just our top five solutions. And that brings me to our preliminary recommended shoreline management alternative strategies by community. On the left side of the table, we have our
risk ranking that Chris went over a little bit earlier. So, um, we incorporated that into this final table followed by each one of the community names and our recommended management alternatives. However, we want to hear from you. We want to hear from your communities. So, I encourage you to take
the survey, um, share it with your communities because we're going to take that feedback into consideration um, when making our final recommended shoreline management alternatives in our report. You'll see throughout most of the county, we are proposing beach andor
dune restoration. Um, designs for these will vary. What may work in Orund Beach might not be the design for Daytona or New Simra. These designs will vary. They often based they're based on historic conditions. So we look at all that
historic data. We set the burm height, different elevations of these designs based on prior conditions. Um, additionally, as Chris talked about a bunch, maybe a more robust solution that has multiple alternatives is
appropriate. However, at this time, we need to get out of this sand starve system. That's very important. and then maybe a more localized smaller scale um alternative can be implemented in some communities to help if there's erosion hotspots. Um but right now this these
are our preliminary recommendations. Um and we'd love to hear from the community. So please take that survey and share it far and wide. Okay. So before we switch over toward looking towards a long-term beach management plan, the survey is going to
be open through January. Um there is no rush for this. You we understand that we're coming up on the end of the year and nothing ever happens at the end of the year anyways, right? Um we want you to take this home with you. We want you to talk about this within your community, within your professional
groups, within your neighborhoods, your churches, your recreational maong league. Um, please run with this. Uh, the county will be doing a series of presentations to various stakeholder groups. If you would like for us to come and do the road show, we are available.
Uh, come see me afterwards. Um, can you put the ranking back up and then maybe we can open it back up and is there any questions on Go back one more please. The chart. Is there any questions on this one? It's It's a little technical.
It does rank out. Uh just want to feel the temperature of the room if we should stop or just keep running forward. Okay. All right. Let's go. >> Thank you, ma'am. >> So, as we look towards a long-term beach
management plan, this is what we're doing right now. We have shown you how we have come through and we have ranked our communities uh on who is most critical at the moment due to all the risk factors we talked about how high your property is where
the structure is related to the shoreline your historical erosion or accretion rate. And I'm super proud of you guys. You're using the word accretion. Nobody knew what that was three years ago. You're getting an A on my book. Um so we've gone through this. We've made a
set of recommendations. This is being recorded because this is also what I want to take home is I I understand people want to lean into these. The surfers want to get check into it. The fisherman community wants to check into it. The walkers, the joggers, the drivers, all the people that use our beach. Um, and I wanted to take the
opportunity to kind of dive into the intricacies of this. This is a lot to handle in just a 20inut public presentation. We gloss over a lot of it at that level, but this allows us to dig in and ask those questions. uh and and kind of get a little thicker in the
weeds on it. Um moving forward, we're going to have the survey open through January, maybe longer. Uh I need feedback from you guys. If the cities choose to take a stance on this and they want to hear something, we will extend the survey as long as there seems to be
positive motion on community feedback. Ultimately, we got 12,000 surveys from our beach user survey. Um, Clayton Jackson, our public information guy, told me that we get 40,000 responses on Survey Monkey before we have to level
up. I hope we have to level up. We have 191 beach passes registered. 191,000 beach passes registered. I'd love to get 20,000. That's 10%, right? So, let's go there. Let's get as many people to hear about this as
possible. We will take this on the road show. So, if you know an agency or group that would be interested, let me know. Um, once we figure out what our plan is, the next discussion that we're going to have to have as a community is how do we
fund this? So, let's talk about money. So, there's two different types of projects. There is a federal project where the Army Corps does the work for
you and you cost participate with them. There is a state funed project. You have to have a beach management plan to partner with the state on funding projects. You must have a beach management plan. That's what we're doing right now. We are locking our plan in as
a community so that our plan fits every community and every user group. Daytona's priorities are completely different than New Smyrna's priorities, which are completely different than Bthoon's priorities, and then Orman by the Sea. We have a vast amount of community users in our neighborhoods.
Um, small projects range about 10 mil. Large projects $150 million. That's a lot of money especially when we are in a climate of trying to cut our taxes, go
to roll back every year and then uh trying to find revenue sources. Couple of ways historic beach funding mechanisms that exist throughout Florida right now. Beach user fees. We have parking and
driving. Other locations use their beach user fees to maintain their beaches. Tourist development tax. the uh legislature and state statutes actually allow you to use TDT tax in order to fund portions of or all of their beach. A lot of people use the tourist
development tax. A local sales tax option. That's another way to fund a project of this size. Um flat mill rate. There's a couple of counties in the state of Florida that just have a flat mill rate across the entire county and that's how they fund their beach programs. And then special service
districts. If one community steps up and says, "I just we just want our community to be done and we want to be first in the line and we'll get everybody on board and we want to selftax ourselves." Then you can set up a special service district and it could be stepped, it
could be flat rate. Again, it could be, you know, the guy on the water pays more than the guy on the, you know, west of 95 if you want to go that way or maybe you stop at the river. It can kind of be jigsawed out the way that you want to get there. Um, so state funded projects with the
Department of Environmental Protection, and again, you must have a beach management project or plan in order to even be eligible for the funding. They funded us $82 million following the 22 hurricanes because we had 6 million cubic yards of sand loss and they said
get sand on the beach. The um work that she referenced in will replace the burm 100% grant funded. uh this presentation that we're doing this beach management plan again 100% grant funded so when you say we're spending a lot of money we are spending a lot of money but we are
spending the grant funding that was provided in immediate response to the hurricanes Ann and Nicole so couple of things to keep in the back of your head as you go towards a state project let's say we get through this we have a beach management plan and we say this is our first project we want to do our first
project state we're ready come give me our 50%. They say, "That's great. We're happy you came." It's ranked. You got to compete. It's competitive. Um, the state would provide 50%, but it is ranked and their funding is 100% based off of what
the legislature appropriates in their budget. You guys all know this leadership changes. So, historically, and I'll go into the economic impacts of tourism in Florida, but historically, our state legislature
has recognized the importance of our beaches and has tended to fund our beaches very well. But, as you know, leadership changes what, every two years, I think, maybe more. Um,
so let's say we don't rank or you get one year and you've got a project and the state says not this year, maybe next year. Well, then you're at risk of either one, self-funding, so you have to find that other 50%. Or two, you say, "Eh, looks good enough. Let's try next
year." And then you delay the maintenance of your storm protection projects. So, if you're already at your interverse cycle and you need to go and put gas in the tank and you say, "Ah, I'll wait till my next paycheck," you never know what storm's around the corner. So, you're either going to have to self-fund it or you're going to have
to take that risk and say, "Let's ride it out." Federal projects, federal feasibility study. This is our goal. And the go the reason why is you've got a better cost participation right there. 65 federal,
35 local. Um 100% if you get storms. So 2004, last time we had a significant storm event that exposed school buses at Esther Street Park in New Smyrna in the Dune system.
At that point, we got authorized for federal project. Um I feel like we're what is it? Schoolhouse rocks where you're a bill and you walk to the capital and they tell you how to create a bill. There's two ways you you have to have two major things happen before you have the Army Corps come and put sand on
your beach. One is you have to be authorized as a project in a bill, a piece of legislation that is approved by Senate and House and signed by the president. We have that we are an authorized project. We became authorized in 2006.
Next thing you need is a funded study. The way you get funded at a federal level is through three ways. First, you show up in the president's budget. And when I say you
show up in the president's budget, it says Valuchia County Coastal Storm Risk Management Project. 1.5 mil. That's all we need. 1.5 mil in this massive budget that we have. That's one way. The second way is what we all love to call an
earmark where one of our elected officials says Valuchia County is special. We're going to put Valuchia County in some legislation somewhere that appropriates money, whether it's a continuing resolution or an appropriations act or something. And again, it has to say Valuchia County
Coastal Storm Risk Management Project, $1.5 million. So, it's clear as mud that we have money coming to us and it's coming to Valuchia County and specifically for this project. The other way to do this is through um dedicated appropriation acts. So
typically your energy, water, and natural resource committee or your transportation committee are the two committees that fund projects such as this. Again, they only do five new projects in those appropriation bills a year. So
we're competing. Last year, we were competing with a wall down by Mexico. couple of years before that we were competing with California and their fires. I think we were competing for um other things that are of importance in the nation that's taking our poultry
$1.5 million and making it fall really far down on the priority list. Um yes, I'll leave that at that. So you hear 333 uh three years to complete $3 million. The county would pay 1.5
with its split with the state. So, we'd basically be at 750. Um, three levels of review. And the fun thing about this beach management plan that we're doing, that offshore sand sourcing we talked about earlier, getting the permits to place it all on
the beach, that counts as in kind contribution. So when we do get Valuchia County Coastal Storm Risk Management Project, $1.5 million, which is the Fed's portion of the three, then we can come back and say, well, we already spent all this money doing our plan,
doing our risk assessment, doing a shoreline alternative, testing the sand to find our sand source that we can put on there. Oh, and by the way, we have a ton of permits to put sand on the beach already. That counts as inind contributions. So, by going through this process we're going through right now, the money and the time that we're
spending doing this using grant funding will be in kind on our federal feasibility study. And I'm going be positive when it's approved. The reality is that once you get a name on a bill that says Valuchia County Coastal Storm Risk Management Project,
let's say it happens in 2026, that study is not going to be done until 2029. That just identifies the projects. Then we have to get another, let's call it Daytona Beach solution because we haven't figured out
what Daytona's Beach Solution is going to be. You then have to go back through that process again and get another appropriation in a legislative bill that says Daytona Beach's solution $10 million. I'll just throw a number out there. It's probably going to be much
more expensive, but $10 million. So then you're going back through that lobbying process at the federal level to get that project named in an appropriated legislation or named in the president's budget.
So when the people call 2022, why isn't the Army Corps dredging the offshore reefs like they do in or offshore sand sources like they do in New Jersey and pumping it on the beach? Because we don't have any of this in place. We don't have the permits. We
don't have the sand horses completed. We don't have our vision. We don't know that Daytona wants us to do that. You may live there. You may have a beautiful house, but that may not be what your community solution ends up being. So, this is very important for setting our vision. And I said it last night, I'll
say it again. I have a 5-year-old and a three-year-old daughter. We are very beach oriented. My husband's huge surfer. I love laying in the sand because there's way too many sharks in New Smyrna. But I want there to be a beach there with my grandchildren on the beach. That's all of our goals, right? We want
this wonderful resource that we live on to be there for future generations. So, there's a lot of numbers. I'm going to pick up my paper. The why, not just because Jessica wants to have grandbabies on the beach one day, but
last week there was a study published on Surfline. I don't know if you know what Surf Line is, but Surf Line is a very uh it's basically the biggest surfing website there is in the in the world. You can go on there, you can look at um webcams, you can see when the high tides
are, you can check the full moons, you can see the winds, the wind direction, the swell direction, all the things. So, a recent study published last week on Surf Line found that beaches generate $240 billion in annual spending nationwide.
240 billion nationwide. They attract 10 times more visitors than our national parks combined. Historically, as a nation, we've only invested pennies per visit. Fortunately, communities are starting to
recognize beaches for what they really are. Living infrastructure that protects our coastline and powers our economy. After hurricanes, well-maintained beaches have been shown to reduce property damages by up to 90%.
Returning five or $6 for every dollar invested. Let's see how that plays out in Valuchia County. Those numbers I just mentioned, they're not just national trends. There are reality right here. Dr. James Houston
conducted a comprehensive economic impact assessment for Valuchia County and what he found validates what they're seeing across the country. Beach tourism in Valuchia County accounts for $4.3
billion annually to our county's GDP. That is 17% of our total economy. When we compare tourism from 21 to 23 against preandemic years of 17 to 19,
beach oriented tourism was 30% higher. I did print off uh the economic reports for everybody. It is in the back of the table if you want to dig into it. 61 million day trips. So when he goes surfing every day of the
year, he's contributing 365 day trips to the beach. That's twice the attendance at our Valuchia County beaches than all Florida state parks combined. We have more people visit our beaches a
year than all the state parks have combined. Felicia County spending by beach oriented tourists supports more jobs than any other industry. 31,400 jobs from beach tourism compared to 13,000 in education, 12,000 in
construction, and 10,000 in manufacturing. These beaches generate 31% of our county's annual sales tax revenue. That's about 28,000 per homesteaded
property. We're not just talking about protecting sand. We're protecting the foundation of our local economy and the livelihoods of thousands of families in this room and across our county. So, remember that beach survey we did
for everybody of our beach survey, 53% of the people who responded went to the beach every single week. 23% went a month and 91 respondents agree that the condition of our beach is worse now than it was before the hurricanes.
79% of our tourists said that they were vacationing in the county because of our beach. 97% of all tourists stated that they visited the beaches regardless of their primary purpose for vacationing in the
county. The beaches are important not only to our economy, but they're important to our residents. They're important to our our health and our wealth and our our mental acuity. Going to the beach and getting your mind right, you can solve a lot of problems in your mind. Um,
they're not only our recreation, they're also our meditation. So, I want to thank you for your time today. I know this has been pretty technical. Thank you for giving us the space and the breath to go into this a little bit deeper. We do have our board
set up. Um, are there any questions that you want to ask while the cameras are rolling? We will also be available afterwards should you have additional questions. >> Thank you. Um, I'm I I am going to do
the white elephant here in the room. I'm sorry, but the amount of money, which we're not even talking about what the potential cost is of the recommended strategy.
I I personally like I want to be here when the beach gets better. And I take note that your response was about your grandchildren and you're probably at least 20 or 30 years younger than me.
Um I it concerns me to hear about waiting on the feds. Um I think uh the unknown is bigger now than perhaps in in a
historical perspective. So I feel like uh we are very dependent if we want to improve our situation which I personally do and I feel it's necessary.
I feel like it's it's on us us as local communities and as the county as a whole to be looking at how do we make much of this happen and how do we
do this faster than you know I I'm sitting here thinking about that slide Jessica and I'm like we're in 2030s now which you know like every year I'm
panicking about the next storm event and the impact. Um I personally don't feel like waiting till 2030 is reasonable. Um, so I I I kind of am wondering and I I
don't think this is the engineers solving this particular response. And I'm not trying to put you on the spot, Jessica, but I feel like how do we as a community get to that piece of responding? Because even even
if we buy into beach nourishment, all of us, right? because that looked like the solution across all the you know how do we prioritize the wear right and I'm thinking about
um I understand seaw walls but I've seen erosion increase since seaw wall right I understand why we need to do that but as a a a recreational user of the
beach. I'm concerned about that aspect and I understand the economic impact. So, how do we have what I think is the next conversation but like super important and urgent.
So we're going through if you remember the in the beginning we talked about the two projects the sand the shaw to shores project where we were getting all the sand that was the 2 million that was in the inlet. That's one high volume amount of sand. We're also doing the offshore
sand search. If you want to truck sand in and spend money we can do that. It it's very expensive. Um you're paying a significant amount of money on the dollar for that. Uh the trap bags were a temporary solution so that people can do
their own improvements to protect their own private property from additional structural damage. The offshore sand source investigation will probably take about 2 years to get into that 40 million cubic yards of sand. The priority ranking is going to
be based off of two things. Just like infrastructure and roads, the worst road gets paved first. That's why we did the risk analysis on who was at the highest risk based upon the multiple scientific factors. The other question is going to be money.
And that's where if there is a community that wants to step to the front of line and say we want to be first, then that kind of opens the door to how are we going to fund it? And if they're creative in how to fund it, then that opens the door faster.
Um, even going on the offshore sand, the 40 mil, that's going to be five years at a minimum. A minimum. The fastest route is we're going to spend the 82 that we have. We're going to spend that out. We're going to zero it out. Uh, that
will probably take us 3 years to get there. The council at that time will have to determine what they will do to proceed after that. We're trying to set the road map up for the next 50 with this. This also does provide us priority on who's the worst of the worst because
I don't think anybody's really good except New Simrna by the jetties. They look great at Monorca. They can sleep well. Um but yeah, it's it's going to be a difficult conversation within our our individual communities alone and then at a countywide level on how to make the
match. The state program, they will 50% fund design. So, if we get through the beach management plan, then we are eligible to ask for 50% funding design, but but we're going to spend our 82 billion first and tear it out completely
before we go after that grant process. Thank you. How does prioritizing or even somebody willing to self-fund a project, let's say I I don't know. Daytona Beach or Shores said we'll we'll self-fund.
What happens to the beach side north and south of them if they're not also being restored at that time? >> So it let's let's say they choose to go with the recommendation of beach and dune restoration. Then basically that's a massive influx of sand into the system
on the scale of million cubic yards of sand. Um, everybody adjacent to a beach nourishment project benefits from it because that sand is constantly like Dr. Bender said, it's it's zigzagging out. It's going from the nearshore bar to the
burm to the nearshore bar and then it's July and all gets squishy in our driving lanes and it hopefully ends up by our seaw wall before a hurricane comes to town. Um, so anybody in that vicinity where you put sand in benefits. >> Thank you, Jessica. With the Army Corps
of Engineers as they're always dredging the inlet um as we go through the process and and thank you and your team again for begging the Army Corps not to just dump it offshore as they have in the past. As
we go through this process and we wait and they come back potentially for another dredging of the inlet, will they go back to just dumping it offshore or will we have an opportunity as you have this time to convince them I'm putting
you on the spot for to convince them to do a project like we're currently doing now with the stockpile in ponds. So, we are governed by the inlet management plan that requires that we put a certain percentage north and a certain percentage south of the inlet.
Um, Councilman White, I will remind you that that would require an easement to allow the Army Corps to place sand on the beach. Just want that in the back of your head. Uh, but the Army Corps is actually very satisfied with the way that this project has worked. They they
have kind of dangled that they would like to do this again. It's a lot cheaper to put the sand on the beach than it is to fight uh putting a pipe in the nearshore. I can remember when they were in New Smyrna in 2019, they were having so much difficulty just locking
that pipe into place because of the high wave dynamic that we have. So every time a swell would come and it would just flap that thing over to the shoreline and have to go reset that guy and put it back out there. Um Pon Inlet New Smyrna North are very
unique. There is a hole in the jetty at what I'll call the groin, even though it's not a groin. It's where the the beach meets the jetty. Um, and that is that caused a lot of sand loss hyper specifically in South Pines inlet. We
are we have a plan in place. We have an application submitted to the Army Corps to extend that concrete jetty deck 400 ft west in the park to the pavilions. What we have found is that the concrete jetty deck that exists there has locked
the army cor's rocks in place where the jetty deck is not. All the rocks have, you know, flim flammed everywhere. Um, we believe by doing that work, we will help make ponds inlets break better because there'll be more sand in the
system, but we also believe it will be a larger recreational beach. And we hope that that dune can grow back that we lost on the southern tip of it. Um just be the reason we haven't done that is the Army Corps if you remember they were in town a few years ago. I think it was
2021 and they were doing the rocks on the jetty and they were bringing them in. Everybody saw them whether you were new Samrna at the railroad tracks on canal or at the slope ramp uh putting your boat in. They're bringing two rocks at a time on the low boys to put onto the jetty.
the contractor got into a contractual dispute with the federal government. I think they finally resolved it. Um but but what we're proposing to do is we're going to work with the Army Corps when the government opens back up. The application's already been submitted.
It's been submitted for three or four months by now. Um and we want to fix the ponds inlet and that should you should see an immediate effect on your sand loss north of the inlet once that jetty hole has been fixed. And we believe we have a solid solution that will increase
access to the very popular jetty, provide you additional sand and pon inlet and allow Lighthouse Point Park to accrete and grow further to the ocean. >> And to to further your comment on on the easement agreements, you guys have done
a great job. You know, we filled a lot of questions from residents and you know, or visitors that are coming back and saying, "Why is the water so dingy and nasty?" I said, "It's wonderful. It's sand that's being pumped and it's getting back into the ocean, but it's
coming back to the shore. So, I think educating the public through the council and through the county has been very good. You'll never please everyone and we try and I do lease lose some sleep over it sometimes because of some phone calls that I get, but trying to convince
everyone it's the right thing to do. Um, your comment about the extending the concrete walkover, it's amazing. We walk it every morning and the sand that is now being caught behind where the wooden walkover went away. It's incredible. And they're having to
scoop it out, shovel it out every day. So, we're fortunate. Then the last piece, it's funny because when the Army Corps was taking the sand and dumping it offshore, I could see residents going out there and waving at the ship trying to get them to dump it behind their house. And it's the honest to god truth.
And I Pon Inlet residents feel that if it benefits everyone, including Pon Inlet, I think we'll be good on on the easement agreements. And and J, I don't mind going back and reopening that again as long as it continues to go the way it's going right now. The only complaint
we have is where they pull the big dredge and moved over to the West Coast. We could have been completed by now. And I understand the money factor for them, but if both dredges had stayed in place, this project would have been completed. So, if we can find a way to tighten that
up next time, I think the selling factor to the residents to sell to get them to sign the easement agreements, we'll be fine. >> The the other benefit about not so it's always better when you spend somebody else's money, right? That's
that's how you get rich. you spend someone else's money to do something. Um, but when you partner with the state, then the county will hold the construction contract where with the Army Corps's stockpile area, we do not hold that contract. So, we can't
interpret our own contract terms and we can enforce our interpretation of contract terms where if the county holds the contract, we have leverage and we can work with them and we can get to making it right, which is why we're doing the sand hauling is we will get to
making it right. Um, there is a benefit to partnering with the state that you do have more control contractually over your end product and the level of service you get during construction. Earlier today, you mentioned something about the um temporary versus the
permanent easements. I remember after Nicole, people would say, "I don't want that on my property forever or I'm planning to sell blah blah." So, could you tell us more about the temporaries for my area? It might make it easier to get them. So, the temporary easement, we
we did it twofold. One, we did it so that we could come in immediately after Hurricane Nicole and do uh debris removal at a public scale that was reimbured by FEMA. So, it allowed us to come in and take broken seaw walls and washed up
debris that was could have been determined as private, but it allowed us to do it under a public nature. Um, and it also allowed us to put trap bags in place where we needed to put trap bags. That easement allowed us to do that. And then we knew we had sand
projects coming. So, if we're going to put trap bags in place, then we're going to have to pull the trap bags out. It's in part of our permit and it's in our easement that the trap bags are coming out. Um, we knew we were going to put sand in as well. the temporary easements that we signed and it's based upon the
sign date. They it was a five-year long easement. When we get to the the design and the solution that my grandchildren will be playing with and surfing on. Um those will have to be long duration easements,
maybe perpetual. The Army Corp requires 50-year. Um but what that also does as a property owner is if I were looking to sell my property, I'd be like, "Look, I've got an easement." It allows the county or the federal government to come
in every x number of years and maintain this erosion solution that's behind my house. And um you should probably talk to Miss Miller because or Mayor Miller because what a lot of the condos found out was that the seaw walls that failed
or their pool decks that collapsed were not covered by their insurance. So they had to self-fund and self assess the repairs and the replacement. Some of the condominiums in the shores, I can tell you, spent $3 million on one wall. That doesn't count the concrete spelling
they've got on there. You know, the regular maintenance that has to go on to structures that live right adjacent to the ocean. So, there's a little bit more protection as a property owner that you have another solution in place and you don't have to
hope that your seaw wall is good. As Dr. Dr. Bender said the seaw wall should be the last line of protection, not your first. My understanding is that there is a um minimum environmental standard currently
on the books about dune construction in front of seaw walls, but that that has been waved uh after the uh storm event for Ian would given the short versus long-term
aspect of all this um improvement would requiring dunes in front of um whether it's a revetment or a seaw wall, would that
be a positive for the beach compare? And I I'm thinking about the whole next door neighbor thing. So, and Wendy, correct me if I'm wrong, the dunes in front of seaw walls were waved and were not required by DP. The
dunes on top of rock revetments were required by DP. That requirement has not been waved. Um, and the reason for that is they want to make sure there's 3 ft of sand on top of the rock so that the turtles could successfully nest and the
clutch could be viable. um there's a financial burden on the rocks. So while you have a seaw wall and you may spend a larger amount of money upfront building a seaw wall structure and the county waved that requirement in light of the significant damage across
the coastline and the fact that we got $82 million to put sand on the beach. The people who put the rocks in are going to be required to place the sand in perpetuity. So, that could be the tune of maybe $20,000 a year. I'm just averaging out
what a potential single parcel might look like. Um, there's a significant maintenance cost that comes along with the rocks already. Uh, it it's, you know, if you if you eat lettuce for lunch, but you go and have a burger with
cheese on it for dinner, the lettuce doesn't really do you much good. Um, if you look at your health overall. So making one parcel maintain sand in front of their seaw wall because you can't retroact it. It's got to be new things coming forward. Making one brand new
seaw wall that let's just say it's a single family property and it's only 100 ft wide. Making them keep sand in front of their dunes not really going to be sustainable because nobody next to them has sand. So it's just going to go to their property and they're slowly drip dropping sand onto the beach to get lost
in the system. So it it at that level to make a difference it has to be a community solution where the dune is done from maybe three blocks of land at one time. And I'll just add real quick from the the engineering side of it, the
the the length that that beach nourishment project will be projected to last is related to the length and it's not linear. So there's much more bang for the buck of doing one really, you know, relatively long project, a couple miles or a mile than to do, you know,
many little small projects that are all going to evaporate relatively quickly. So there's a that it gets to the idea of community planning versus individual parcel planning. So the idea of any more sand in the system is better than less. So, you know, having it in, but for the
most bang for the buck from a community standpoint instead of smaller dune projects in front of the seaw walls would be how can we get meaningful projects that are going to last a lot longer that ultimately would be less expensive than many shorterlasting small
projects. One of the slides had a 50-year timeline on the bottom of it. So, is that 50 years like from this point till the end of construction? >> The designs that they create are >> that one there 50-year project commitment. So,
>> yes, ma'am. >> Like from today to the end of construction is approximately 50 years. >> No, ma'am. from the start of construction to the then it's 50 years is the design level they plan for with intervals of maintenance. >> Okay. So and with integrals of
maintenance. All right. So the funding that you show up there would that include funding to cover the maintenance that has to go on? >> Yes ma'am. >> Okay. So it's not on the burden of the municipalities to cover the maintenance when all that construction is completed.
And if it's a FEMA project, if it's a hurricane Ian, typically it's a 100%. >> Good. >> So, you do your maintenance when the storm hits because there's always going to be a storm. >> So, the the Army Corps uses what's called a 50-year project life. So, when
they're looking at the design conditions, but also the benefits and costs associated with that design, they amateurize the costs out on a 50-year plan, and it's a 50-year design life. So over that period, if it's a 5year or a
10-year reourishment interval, then they're planning for five projects in that 50-year period um and costing all that out and figuring out if it's in the federal government's interest the way they do national economic development
costs um when they compare how much storm protection is it providing versus how much it's going to cost. So that's where that um another basis of where that 50-year part comes in. I can tell you one thing that does set us above
everybody else and I will say it loud and I will say it proud in the entire nation is that we have the world's most accessible beach. We don't have one portion of our coastline that is privatized and you are not allowed to walk on it or run on it or recreate on it. Um that reigns very high when it
comes to uh federal return on investment. So along with our economic demographics, along with our tourism, and then the public access that we have that is routine and consistent along our coastline really sets us above everybody
else. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your attention. Tell a neighbor, tell a friend, and we're always here. Thank you.