Thank you. Mr. Watts, Mr. Lewis, >> Mr. Parker, >> Mr. Sakenovski, Miss Shriber, Miss Walford. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, so for those of you who haven't been to to any of these before,
uh, just wanted to go over a couple things to to get us started. Um, first of all, uh, you won't hear a whole lot of dialogue, uh, among the members of the commission up here this evening. We're here really to listen to to receive input. Um, we have a series of meetings that are scheduled. I'll get
some information out to you at the end of the meeting about, you know, kind of the follow-up meetings from here. Um but the next one is is actually on October 13th and it's over at the the airport in the in the McGee room. Um, basically what we're going to be doing at that meeting is taking all of the the
comments that we've heard in the listen listening sessions around the county along with some additional, you know, comments from u the county staff um some suggestions from them and areas to look at in the charter and then uh members of the commission will be going around and starting to talk about um sort of areas
of the charter that we may want to work on over the next next several months. So this process um you know is kind of kicking off now. Um it will go until uh sometime around May or so uh as far as developing you know any proposed uh amendments that'll be moving forward and
then we'll be presenting those to the county council and ultimately they end up on the ballot in next year's elections. So um just to kind of familiarize the the folks that are here um you know this is a process that's spelled out in our charter. Um every 10 years we we take a look at our charter.
we get a a group of appointed members together to look at the structure of the charter and decide whether or not there are any portions of it that need to be updated. Um just real quick, uh for those of you who aren't familiar, charter versus a non-charter county, I think we're somewhere around a little
bit over half of the counties in in Florida are charter counties, which means essentially they have any authority or power that is not prohibited by the state or or superseded or preempted by the state um state law. um versus non-charter counties that have
the authority that's specifically laid out uh in state law. Um and the charter itself is really kind of a structural document. It it you know kind of establishes what the structure of our government is at the at the county level. Um it has things that can be then executed, you know, in the regulatory
aspects like, you know, some of the countywide standards we have in chapter 50 of the the county ordinances, but um it's really not a regulatory document. It's more structural. Um at our first meeting um you know last month we adopted um some rules of procedure. So
I've got uh slips up here um for everybody that's registered to speak. Um I'll call you up and just ask you to to state your name and and address clearly um so that we can get it on the on the recordings and everything and and included in the minutes. Um we ask you to to provide your comments in three
minutes. um if you are on a roll and and uh you know there's some other things that um yeah you want to add to it then um you know we can let let you have some additional time as as needed. So with that unless uh anybody on staff has any other comments we need to get into um
we'll get directly into our speakers. So Robert Flity please come up and again state your name and address for the record. >> Robert Flity Deltona I hope I'm improving. Uh, I'm here to propose a charter amendment to establish
a citizen police review board in Deluchia County. This board would provide independent oversight of law enforcement conduct, enhancing transparency, accountability, and public trust. But more importantly, it's a fiscally responsible solution to a
growing liability. Counties with review boards consistently report fewer excessive force lawsuits and lower settlement costs. Oakland, California saw a 24% drop in payouts over five years a after
implementing theirs. Oversight also leads to lower insurance premiums and improves eligibility for federal grants tied to accountability, especially from the Department of Justice. Beyond dollars and cents, it reduces protest
related costs and improves cooperation between law enforcement and the public. That's efficiency we can't afford to ignore. Legally, this proposal is sound under Florida's home rule authority. Lauchia County has the power to create independent oversight bodies. This b
this model mirrors successful boards in other counties and aligns with our charter values. The cost modest, the return significant. By investing in oversight, we reduce long-term liabilities, protect taxpayers dollars,
and strengthen public confidence. I respectfully urge this commission to recommend placing this amendment on the 2026 ballot. Let's not repeat Oyola's mistake. Let's lead with accountability. Thank you. Yield.
>> Thank you, Mr. Flity. And I think if I think that was uh right around 387 words again and I think you're you're getting better on your timing. So very good job. >> Okay. Um next speaker is Robert Sanchez.
>> My name is Robert Sanchez. I'm from Edgewater unincorporated Valuchia. >> Okay. >> And um I would like to make an amendment to the charter. So, whenever the agents and the code enforcement board steps on a people's property, they have to get an
inspection warrant. Right now, through uh the Freedom of Information, I got the information of how many uh how many violations and inspections you guys conducted since 2014 up until 2023
24. And you guys did 6,200 inspections with violations without one with only one inspection warrant. And that was in 2023. And I'm pretty sure out of the 6,200 times, all of the the residents did not allow these inspectors onto their
property, into their homes, past their gate of their property. So, I like it. Uh so these code members would know and understand the agents before they go out to a property, maybe they could piggy back on to the oversight board that he's talking about where they say absolutely
not. If you want to trespass on somebody's property, you're going to have to get an inspection warrant. No exceptions. We have all the agents that were under oath. They they just said that was part of their training. They don't know. We had the director say to
make it clear, it just takes too much time to get an inspection warrant. It's too hard and it takes too much time. Well, the Florida State Constitution, the United States Constitution protects against that. And we believe that it has to be in black and white because they
start weaponizing the government. And at the same point in in the the administrative board, you you have to go to the uh county clerk to get witnesses subpoenaed. We go to them, give them all the names, and then the day before the time is run out to get subpoena, you get
the attorneys email you and say, "Oh, they're not relevant to your case." Well, the D was relevant to the case. Another thing they need to be trained when it when you under the the Valuchia County code when it points to a Florida
statute or a a Florida administrative code that rest of that uh section falls under that code. If they point to 62340 in the administrative code that whole section has to be governed under 62340.
They cannot pick and choose uh what they want to do. And um I just feel like all of them and possibly family members. I I've been noticing there's a lot of family members when I had to deal with them on my property. I had three family members come in to my property
unannounced trespass to give me these code violations. I tried to get to a supervisor. It went up right to uh his family member, his father. And there has to be rules against that. And there is rules against the family members in there. I would just like them to follow it and um uh really start protecting
constitutional rights because it's going to open you up to uh lawsuits which we're in. So um thank you. I do my time. >> Now I got to remember to turn it back on. Uh thank you Mr. Sanchez. Appreciate you coming out this evening. Okay. Uh
next speaker I have is Katherine Pente. Good evening, Katherine Pante, Daytona Beach. Um, I'd like to increase have it written in a charter to increase our conservation to 55% for Valuchia forever.
My next one is I would like to remove the council's power for direct county expenditures. Too much dipping in the piggy bank there.
require code to have cameras and ban all fill and build. So, so no fill for all subdivisions, even if they've already been approved in the building code for stem wall construction. raising the grade is just too much. It's
causing too much flooding. And I want to just reiterate as far as from the other evening. Um, just lost my train of thought. I'll come back to it in a second. >> Let me think on it. It was it I I just I
totally went out of my mind. Is this the one that you came back up on last time? >> It was one of the ones from last time. Um, it had to do with >> I'm totally blank. Give me a minute. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Um, that's
the last speaker card that I have. Is there anybody else that would like to to add some comments or stand up and uh offer some thoughts on on the charter or any amendments? Okay. >> Um, board any problem? come on up. Just state your name and
address for the record again if you wouldn't mind. >> Robert Sanchez, Edgewater, Florida. I will also like to add um when we get in front of the administrative board, when the citizen brings up that there was a trespass and a constitutional violation,
the the members up there should ask if that happened and get the particulars. U they don't want to hear it. They say this is not for this hearing. You have to appeal that to another court. the regular citizens of this county don't have the money to keep appealing up to different courts. I mean, there has to
be law and uh uh observation of due process in the administrative uh court >> and that hearing. So, um Yep. >> Okay. And um also that was for the warrant when I told him the trespass and
also when they tell them the citizen tells them, "Hey, I subpoenaed I told the the clerk to subpoena my witnesses." They're not here. They did not subpoena them. The board right then should be obligated to continue the case. If the citizen does not have their witnesses
that they believe is important to their case, they have to continue the case. They can't just continue and then hear whatever the agents have to say uh what the violations were without the witnesses from the citizen >> continuence for that board hearing. You know, if I can't go there with my
witnesses, what are we uh I need to be able to prove myself? >> Uh correct. Thank you. >> Okay. Very good. Thank you, >> Miss Pantage. You remember it? >> Okay. Oh, >> just state your name and address for the record again just so we've got it clear in the minutes.
>> Kathern Pante, uh, >> protected address Daytona Beach. Anyway, um, the mill rate, I think we should write in a charter that it cannot be lowered for Valuchia forever. We had that suggestion pop up yesterday.
>> Okay. And then I want to make sure reiterate on the the PLRDC that the council must hear everything that goes in front of the PLRDC has to go in front of council. They might have changed their by right but everything needs to go in front of the council. They shouldn't be able to sherk that duty.
That's what they were elected for. >> Okay. >> And I think that's it. >> Okay. Thank you very much. Anybody else in the audience like to address the the commission or offer some comments? I'm gonna kind of keep us around a little bit. Um, we kind of left quickly in Orand the other day. Um, and
I just want to make sure that in case anybody walks in um, a little bit late. They get an opportunity. In the meantime, I'm going to ask Clayton Jackson to come up and fill our time a minute. Clayton's the public information officer with the county and he's going to give us some information on the communication efforts with regard to the charter review commission. So, Clayton,
>> hey, it's doing great. I have to mention my name entirely. He took care of that for me. So, again, I'm Clayton Jackson, public information officer for county government. I just want to give the commissional update on the outreach efforts to ensure that the community is aware of the meeting and listening sessions going on. On the charter
commission's website, we added another button to submit your input. They click that. It gives a brief explanation of how they can do that, a direct link to the charter for a quick review as well as the email address. That way they can submit their comment. Additionally, I know you guys got one more listing
session coming up on Monday. So, we do have a social media post queued up and ready to go out Saturday morning. It will remind them of that meeting as well as the O the meeting regular meeting in October as well as the email address of how they can submit their comments. So,
I just wanted to give you all a brief update on our outreach efforts >> and we thank you for that. Thank you for all the the work that you and staff are putting in uh to to kind of help make sure that the word's getting out on these. >> All right. Thank you guys. >> Mr. Lewis, >> let me ask you a question.
You put this in the newspaper. You put it uh these meetings in the paper. I know you put them online, but there are a lot of people that don't go online. I I think it would behoove you to maybe put something in the paper if you haven't already. >> Put in the newspaper. Yeah, we did do
the news release. So, pro it goes out to about three 400 different reporters. The news journal, West Orlando, Hometail News, Beacon. So, we did submit the news release with all that information to them to publish that. Um, I know it's on
our website, social media. We talk about it on our radio show that we uh we I do one every Thursday morning as well as Friday morning. So, we're doing our best to get get the word out there. Yes, sir. >> Can you put the address out again?
And also, if he's doing it every Thursday or ever, how often, can is can he put the address out on his news, the email address I'm referring to? >> Yes. >> Do you guys get all that? I think I
think the the um request was, can we make sure that we're getting the email address, you know, again, for the um suggestions to be emailed in out early and often. So, you want to give it us give us the email address one more time? bc charter valution.org.
>> Perfect. And then I think if we can just make sure that um anytime we're talking about the process to include the email address, I think you guys have been doing that. And um one of the things that we've also said at some of the the prior meetings is we may have more of these because we're going to get into a discussion of some of the potential
substantive changes to the charter and at that point in time we may as a commission determine that we want to get back out and and provide get some additional input from citizens in addition to our normal meeting schedule. So we'll we'll kind of play that by ear as we go through the process. >> Nick. >> Yeah. Thanks. So just to clear you said
VC charter or VC charter review. >> VC charter review. Sorry I don't have my phone on me. That may have been it. >> I just want to make sure it was correct. There's no putting the wrong email address. >> Check that. So I got the social media thing queued up. I'll go check that right now. DC charter review, >> you know, but also like, you know, as
commission members, I don't know if you have your personal um social media accounts, but obviously whenever we do post about it, sharing it to help amplify that because the more people who share, more people like comment, the the algorithms pick up and it goes more to our community.
>> But that being said, we're supposed to then send a copy of that to that email address. That's what we've been told. So, yep, >> you can ask. I think if you're if you're asking if you >> were we were definitely told that. >> Yeah. If you get direct input to you through something
>> anything out if we post it we're supposed to send a copy a screenshot of it that we were specifically told that. So that's one of our responsibilities if we do what you just suggested. >> That's what the attorney is over there for. I'm just trying to amplify the efforts out. So the question I had
actually was what uh when are we going to get the input that you receive online? >> So Mr. Dyer, you want to talk about the process you guys are working through >> at your meeting in October. We'll have a summary of everything you've heard from
citizen input uh as well as you had requested some things that staff had identified for Elise talk about and we will include at that time anything uh we've received through that portal and if I would say any future meeting of
yours if we received additional feedback we will share that with you. >> Thank you Mr. Dyer. And one of the things um just for the commission's you know information um I've actually set up meetings before each of the agendas so that we can go through and make sure that all the information is being
provided in the agenda agenda materials. So I'm going in and meeting with county staff to kind of go through the agenda almost like an agenda conference um to go through the agendas and make sure everything that we've talked about being in those agenda materials is there so that when we get to the meetings we've we've got all that information.
It's nice to have an office across the parking lot from from the county building. So, I'm I'm heading over to do that on a very recurring basis. >> Oh, you're back. >> Gentlemen was correct. It is VC Charter Review at Valuchia.org. Again, VC Charter Review.org.
And again, be watching. We'll be that's on the website already and then we'll be blasting this on social media to help spread awareness. >> Okay. Thank you very much. So, um, I don't have any other speakers that have, uh, filled out cards. Anybody else want to say anything else before we adjourn
the meeting? Showing that we've been here about 20 minutes and I think we've had some good input. There's no other speakers. I'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting for tonight.