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e e e e e e uh call the meeting to order please Echo Advisory Board um welcome everyone and I
want to say welcome to those in the audience and uh will we have the roll call please Reggie Santilli we'll come back to that thank you Pat Drago here Gerald feaser here John
Macaluso here Stephanie Mason Teague here Pat northy Jay Pendergast here we have a quorum we have a quorum thank you um Reggie Santelli we would like the chair will entertain a motion to have Reggie
sell participate virtually she's not here today to be able the chair the meeting that's why as Vice chair I will be chairing the meeting just for today the chair will entertain a motion second thank you all in favor I I okay
thank you all right so Reggie will be connected I'm here all right welcome Reggie okay we hear your voice we don't see your Fai that's just fine and we have a new member today I think he has had time before on this board but I have not met him myself Geral F would you
like to say hello and welcome well thank you yeah my name is Geral Feer I was on this board about what three years ago and then when they uh reup forever uh Ben had asked me if I would do that and so I stepped aside and and uh Pat
Patterson took over this slot and and Pat retired and Don asked me if I would step in so here I am I'm back welcome welcome we're enjoy your appreciate your experience okay uh next item on the agenda is public participation do we
have any members of the public who would like to address the committee seeing none we'll move on next item is approval of the January 30th 2025 minutes do I have a motion to
approve thank you second thank you all in favor all thank you all right now we'll turn the meeting over to Daniel Marsh for the grant review panel please
Daniel all righty so today at the grant review panel uh we are going to review each application from this cycle individually um there will be committee discussion so there is an opportunity for you to ask the applicant any questions comments or concerns you have
on the application um we will score each uh application on the new score sheet that was provided to you prior to the meeting uh we will do a roll call um for a vote um Jill will announce the names in order uh we will take the highest and
lowest score and remove them uh from the average um today um and then we will to Total um your scores up we'll take a quick one to two minute pause in between each application to make the scores are correct and we can put them into the
record um and then we are looking for an 80 or above to be recommended to County Council if for some reason an application does not get the 80 we will still take it to the County Council because they make final determination on the application any questions about the
process today okay we'll jump right in uh so first application to score today is the Little Theater of new samna beach this is uh for production improvements uh the echo request was
57,500 and their total match is $63,000 uh this is for a 32t wide 11 foot tall uh LED Cyclorama screen that will be installed in their existing Theater which will serve as a backdrop for events performances and
presentations and there will also be led panels to improve visibility and provide real time announcements um the staff recommendation is as presented the application project meet County councils approve requirements for grant funding
so we will now start the process of scoring okay we give a few minutes for everyone to do their score sheets yes if you would transfer your scores to the to the sheets that I provided to you guys um we will take
those and we have to put those into public record um just uh yep uh so you will also to Total your score on the last sheet and you'll sign but you know if you do have questions comments or concerns the applicant is here for this
first round so yeah soon as we're done after we if you printed them out from home that's fine yeah if you've printed your sheets out from home yeah it's fine you can use the ones from home yeah if if you if you have the right sheets
y okay now Daniel do you want to have any questions from it's up to you guys uh Rick is here uh do you guys need any if you guys have any questions if not we will jump right into scoring and yeah I do have I just for my own curiosity
because obviously just stepping in here I missed the presentation when you're talking it but there will be a screen behind behind the the the the action so they can add backdrop scenes or whatever it make it look like they're on a green set almost except it'll be a lighting or
high defin correct yeah it'll be uh I think 32 feet W wide right screen that'll go from all the way across the backdrop of the theater that's what we call a Cyclorama it's basically just a fabric wall in the back where we can project things need to
project mountains or rain or city scene or something this wall this is an LED uh bet an LED television which we can program with anything we want U both moving and static which will replace that psychorama and now be the back of the theater so all the plays can be done
in front of it in any location in the world or any sort of uh activity I mean predict any sort of scene and it's kind of like a highdefinition screen or something it's a yes well it's an L just like an l television except that we can program it with any content we want it
can also be programmed in different sections as we need I'm looking forward to seeing that thank you g be something thank you just read reading through the I'm sorry reading through the description on the gr on the grant submitt was kind of difficult to understand but once I saw
it it's amazing that's why yeah we put it is much easier to understand when you can see it thank you turn my microphone on thank you I think it looks like a wonderful project um I had a couple of questions um as far as
the I believe you said when we were Touring that it would be the only LED cyc in in the county that no other theater has this technology not to my knowledge only one I know nearby Titusville has a much older version of this
technology um I also had a question um on page 82 you have a it said that you have a um Reserve fund that you have set aside which is wonderful that a consultant recommended that you have the reserve fund of
400,000 um is that invested is that restricted in any way okay we the 400,000 is not restricted I mean we've had it in CDs we roll over right now there's uh it's not in the CD it's sitting waiting to see
what's happens here um just to be clear the reserve what we call the reserve fund is something that we keep separately from the rest of our savings it's based on a reserve study mostly is for condos to determine how their assessments for when things will fail
but we're following the recommendations of the 20-year plan we keep that separate from everything else we're doing just to make sure that we have enough money for things that happen things that break unexpectedly uh that's part of the 400,000 but again it's not C is just a
separate account wonderful um in and just this is just a a followup to some of the training that was listed that you talked about on the tour and listed in your proposal will the company actually come down to train your theater staff on that
new equipment yes in fact it'll be done we typically have seven day Productions or plays a year plus some other special things uh so what's in here is is training for each production to eight for for the first two years uh that way
we we believe we're going to have quite a large number of Staff who be trained on this so once they finally leave us we can uh proceed on our own as I mentioned on when you were there at the tour uh what we really want to do uh and will do is partner with the local theater
departments new Beach High School Theona State College uh maybe maybe others try to have um the younger people coming in and training with us help train us I'm sure they they're better than our people but to have a continual group of people coming up who
are able to operate this wall to the fullest extent of capability which is obviously the goal well and that's wonderful I was going to ask about that because you said you were hoping to open it up or that you would be opening it up to more Community use so the community use would be through the schools and the
students yes we want the theater is actually starting to create a like a university little the university directing lighting sound and so forth and the LED wall is going to be a big part of it this addition to things like dance classes and stuff like that we do
already wonderful the only other thing that was not real clear is there's a specific question about maintenance and replacement um and I didn't see that there was a suggestion of the cost of the optional service plan the annual service plan that you may go ahead and
purchase from the company um is there a cost benefit of that or is that all going to be handled in house the main of that we'll be handling it in house but we'll have five years warranty on what we get from them and they're with us for two years so we'll have a we'll have a
much better understanding of how to use the wall what the maintenance requirements are uh as mentioned the life of the wall is is uh from the manufacturers 100,000 hours if we use it almost constantly which we won't be
that's like 30 40 years we appreciate that thank you any other questions is it time to record the vote please you know Dro yes I wanted to say that I went through these uh reports and
I didn't find things wrong and so I have scoring this at 100% and I talked with Daniel ahead of time I said I went through and the things that we have expressed concerns about before in par first of all the completeness the
documents I looked at Ada I looked at Green infrastructure and all the anyway so I want you to know yes I have 100 points but I want the committee members to know I did look at them thank you we ready to
score Pat drgo John mauso 85 Stephanie Mason Teague 95 Pat northy Jay Pendergast
87 Reggie Santilli 81 Gerald feaser 84 I need to I need to learn what I've been through okay thank you C all right the next item then so we're
going to just uh take a quick minute or two just to it's all right we'll tabulate the scores and just make sure they're correct before we put them into the record e e okay scores are all correct so 89 is the
average score so we will uh recommend uh little the to County Council which is March 18th all right moving on to the next application today it is the uh Hub on Canal uh the Arts and Cultural education
center for $600,000 is the request as well as the match uh this project involves constructing a 30 3100 square foot educational building as an expansion of the Hub of canal that exists today it'll feature two ceramic
Studios two class rooms for art and cultural activities as well as storage space restrooms and a covered outdoor area for additional programming for the facility uh the recommendation to Echo advisory committee today is as presented the application meet uh the county
council's approved requirements for standard grant funding uh Richard England is here to answer any questions if you have about their application are there any questions from the members of the committee yes Stephanie please
I do have some Richard thank you for this application I think it's a wonderful facility and I really enjoyed the tour and the new space is looks like it's just going to be amazing um will James Art Center continue as James yeah after the donation of James
March of 2023 um the two businesses have very different brand identities because of their separate starts and It's Our intention to maintain the for lack of a better term brand equity in Janes um and
you know the focus on ceramics this will be half Ceramics the new building um there's you know obviously backend things that are common and we try to utilize you know cross purpose cross marketing of both we have two different newsletters they do some advertisement
of the other in the newsletters they have different um eblast lists and uh different social media Prof files uh but uh will'll the name will continue to stand and the activities at the Hub um
says it will shift to More arts education will you continue to have the working Studios oh uh absolutely that that is really nothing to do with this at all um as you uh have noted The Hub has 16 working Studios within the
building and that's sort of a defining characteristic of that as far as art galleries go and uh you know particularly on first Saturdays people love that and uh you know it gives certain artists the opportunity to show themselves off to a
greater degree than just having a piece of a wall with some paintings hanging on it for instance so that will CH not change whatsoever and it's that building that is mortgaged the 700,000 mortgage yeah the mortgage the mortgage is on the Hub Building only only so the James Art
Center is still separate and no mortgage the new building of course is what you're applying for today exactly so that there doesn't have to be wonderful um on the last page the operating forecast detail there were some sections on that last section four that I had
some questions um it didn't it and again it looks wonderful and I know that you're serving many many people it doesn't say how many it just says that you're you plan to serve more and that you'll increased by this percent and this that and this percent how many students do you anticipate serving in
this new facility Well on the ceramic side we run about six classes at any given time right now that should be able to go to 12 or 13 the wheel classes have uh probably maximum of 10 because it's
constrained by the number of wheels that you have the handb building classes probably mostly have 11 or 12 so we should be able to um more somewhat more than double what we're doing and an important piece of this as well is the
existing Janes Studio facility that I think most of you saw uh Our intention is to make that Open studio all the time right now that single space is both Open studio and classroom space and we can't do Open studio while a class is going on
and with this addition we'll have the classes in the new building the old space will be open studio all the time and as I said to you all when you were there our hope we get a little ways down the road is that we can do Open studio
on the ceramic side from uh you know8 or nine in the morning till 8 or nine at night I'll tell you um Open studio on Wednesday nights runs till nine o'clock that is the busiest time in Open studio because of people having uh constraints
on their time from jobs or school and so I could imagine that we'll you know more than triple the number of Open studio students that we serve and that's really a key here to advancing the artistic progress of the people taking the
classes so um it it'll be a substantially larger number hopefully that Dimensions it some and on the the non-ceramic side um we will offer be able to offer classes that we haven't been able to offer because the Hub has three
classroom spaces they're adequate but they're not fabulous and uh now we can trying to plug new things in it's uh you know like trying to put stuff in a on a menu and it's really difficult because
Outreach is in there too A lot of the Outreach that we do is on site someplace but we also have a bunch that happens at the Hub and with the existing facility at the Hub only there um we you know have competition between classes and
Outreach and it's difficult to add anything so this will free the playing field quite a bit to do uh more different things and this Outreach is it free or reduced for vucha County residents it's free anything we anything we've defined as
Outreach is free to all the participants so I think some of you may know we've got some big programs and some small programs uh there's something called The razzled Dazzle fashion club which has grown to be a really big deal uh and uh that's coming up you know
will be in may we have a program that we started called Hub on the Run uh school years ago or we send an artist into all of the five Local Elementary School classrooms to take over the classroom for one cycle of students so it's two to
five days depending on the school size uh and we've just got new Partnerships we signed with Halifax Health uh the Pace Academy for Girls uh and there's one other one I'm drawing a blank on at the moment but we we're creating new opportunities for
that but with this space the again the field opens up substantially to have more um time available and spaces available to expand everything that we do I appreciate you sharing that I did know that because I'm I'm interested in
but I think it wasn't represented in the Grant and that's why I wanted to ask that the Outreach programs were free um to participants and I think that that's an important detail and some of those programs that you offer are very popular and the studio looks like a wonderful space and um thank you
any other comments questions okay we'll proceed to vote Pat drgo 95 John Macaluso 93 Stephanie Mason Teague
91 Pat northy Jay Pendergast 89 Reggie senly 92 Gerald feaser 80 what fine I'm good with that you know
and it's funny I went through these yesterday and I went through and I I just didn't find fault and I and I and I said to Daniel I I feel like everybody's really stepping up you know and the things that we have had a concern about
I see being met that's okay I can be thrown at any would be the first time better I've been thrown out of better places than this is that the old line
sorry e just a quick reminder for everybody make sure we speak into the mics so we can pick up the transcript thank you all right so uh Hub on Canal 91.8 also will be recommended to County
Council uh the next project here today is conservation Florida uh This Is The dranch Preserve and nature center the echo request is $600,000 and the total match is roughly about $2.2 million remember the the the
match and the uh the match and the echo requests this project as a whole is roughly over $3 million so it's the whole project is going to be complete in this phase wor the total project cost of three M roughly 3 million only Echo
dollars will be 600,000 they did turn in the executed Grant agreement from Big Nova so I did send that to your guys packet last week so that is signed and executed so um this project involves restoring and converting a 5,000 square
foot existing building into a nature center on conservation land in the Florida Wildlife Corridor that will serve as environmental Ed conservation and Community engagement uh the facility will feature exhibition space as well as storage office office
space and restrooms uh there will also be a wrapped around covered porch uh that will be constructed and improvements to the gravel driveway and parking area uh the recommendation to the committee is the application and project uh meet County council's approved
requirements for standard grant funding and Mark Rizzo is here to answer any questions about the application do we have any questions from the committee members yeah please go ahead we appreciate it very much go ahead
stepan all right now we can hear you oh thank you okay sorry just a comment this uh project uh um is really important to the to Southwest fuia it is a keystone piece of property that will affect
however that corner of the county grows that was what I saw in this whole project was as Keystone to what we're doing down there so it was a great project thank you I saw a lot of uh letters we had of support that were sent to us too also
Stephanie yes thank you good morning um I enjoyed the tour very much and thought the the land looks beautiful and 476 Acres I think you said um can you tell me what what is geoc coaching oh
geocaching geocaching so geocaching is when um basically uh people go out hide little things sometimes and um it's kind of a mapping exercise people go out for enjoyment and find little things
out you little yeah I'm sorry and they'll leave uh little items there as well and so it's just one of those things that is kind of free for people to go out into the woods and and enjoy the woods but um have an exercise or or something a fun activity behind it and
that was a question about um that's just one of the many activities one of the many activities and it and your Grant did detail many of the usual things but I wondered some of the new things that were were going to be introduced and that would be one of them um it it sounds like I also wondered
what is h conservation on Taps okay so um so conservation Florida besides the ranch itself we also are Statewide so we provide you know we have more than 40,000 Acres of conservation EAS throughout the state and so
throughout the state and also locally around the ranch we provide um educational uh conservation on tap educational programs that will go on to um different craft beer places and stuff like that just to educate people on what
we're doing and so it's just kind of a fun event one of those out to the showing what conservation does conservation so Taps is your TAP yeah beer tap correct yes yes that's that's what I was LE that's one of the several
programs yeah that that we do just as as fun events as educ programs I noticed that your financial stability relies heavily on volunteers and um I didn't see numbers as far as cost increases that you
anticipate as well as projected number of audience served um with this new facility I'm sure you count everything but I I didn't see it represented in the Grant application as far as how many people do you anticipate are going to come to this sure and and that's kind of hard and as we grow because this is a
new facility in a new area um so we will have counters tracking some of that um information as we grow we add features as well as you know um we had told you that we want to add future phases such as equestrian and that kind of stuff that's going more people we've had um
we're fortunate to have tons of support in this area as you saw many letters of support um toward that a lot of Foundations supporting us and so we've been growing rapidly um with this site to provide um access um some of that is also going to come as we as you know
like Conservation Area is adjacent to us another 7500 Trails um be Ranch that is across the street and those people all those people that use those Trails were also come to use our Trails so our Trails outside of this Echo application we're going to be
opening more than three and a half miles of Trails um coming up later this spring and that's outside of the so our property will be open to the public before this Nature Center even opens providing know lots of people public us property um so we see just a
great number local but Statewide and this property will also be um conservation for as main Hub which we work throughout the state so that's going to draw people to this as well exact numbers we don't know exactly we we suspect that'll be something similar
to Li it just provides another opportunity but also different opportunities that whaton offers as well and phase one you think you'll be which phase one is the building um April 2026
I'm sorry and that's April 2026 completion for that the phase one two years from now two years from acceptance one of the doors okay but you just said the trails will be open sooner than up trails are opening later the spring yeah correct we've received
funding from FPL in order to um allow the public to come on and enjo more than three and a half miles Trails now in the future too we'll be looking to expand those trails to right now will be open wonderful um I did um like that you included the public surveys the public
meetings um to get input from the residents and then yeah at conservation on top see that works give them a beer and they'll fill out a survey imagine that um but I think it's important and that's why I have asked for the numbers not just in
this meeting but previously every time that we come together I think it's important to note who will benefit from this and how many people will benefit from this um and and it does definitely ask that in the application and I didn't see it represented but thank you for clarifying yeah it's a hard number to
give it is because it's a new facility but we expect that it will be similar to other nature preserves around Oak preserve other ones thank you thank you just one comment the numbers are going to represent your marketing and how you
yes and how you get to work that sure that's something that we all have stressed in the past has been Market than great thank you any other comments or questions yes yeah I just have a comment obviously new I missed the the presentation down there and I'm very sorry for that but I'm very familiar
with the property now when you talk about the horses the equestrian side of it are you're talking about just equestrian Trails or you going to anticipate have an arena in a parking Corral where people may have little shows or anything like that uh just opening the trails up to equestrian as passive Recreation passive Recreation
and will the trails be shared by by hikers and equestrian and equestrian yeah okay you haven't seen any issues that with people bringing dogs and equestrian right now dogs are not allowed oh dogs be allowed for the opening this later spring it'll just be
hiking and uh what about bicycles can people bring a bicycle on a hik to the uh site itself but not on the trails not on the trails correct okay thank you just curious yeah yeah thank you for asking can I just add something to that just there is a initiative though that
would take would make um D Ranch where where you parked bik kind of like a what's where I'm looking for we're looking a I represent St John's river Alliance we're looking at how we would marry both
D Ranch is on the west side of 415 and Beck Ranch was on the east side of 415 with some kind of a safe passage so the bikes that come down the trail the um multi-purpose Trail on 4:15 on the
East Side would be able to cross over and have safe passage to the D Ranch on the west side so there was that going on as far as a safe passage to combine those two together and then dranch would kind of become a a trail head I don't
know that you would call that but that would act that way with bathrooms and they would be able to do I you know those kinds of other events yeah so this facility kind of um is the stepping stone to many other community projects which includes um connecting all those
Trail systems within St John's over Water Management District Beck Ranch across the street currently we're working with fucha County Traffic engineering bwalk Central Florida um to create a pedestrian Crossing um that'll connect right now between our property
and St Johnsburg Water Ranch the district like Ro Conservation Area across the street so um all those projects you know this is like I said um this Nature Center also provides an opportunity to build Greater Community features um in the community it really
is Keystone to that area yeah I I think it because we need to build more of these tree museums so that our grandkids know what they look like any other questions or comments all right thank you we'll thank you very much to vote thank
you pat pat drgo 94 John Macaluso 90 Stephanie Mason Teague 92 Pat northy 97 Jay Pendergast
96 Reggie stilly 95 Gerald feaser 90 all right we're going to go ahead and roll into the next project and uh Daniel will present that uh as I'm checking
these yeah so as of right now 93.4 is the score for conservation Florida uh to be recommended to County Council uh the next application is city of DeBry this is Bill Keller Park pickle ball courts and improvements project uh
the echo request is $110,000 the match is 110500 uh this project includes improvements to Bill Keller Park that will expand the existing pickle ball courts from 2 to three resurfacing the tennis and basketball courts that are
existing there and then the addition of new fencing in LED lighting for the facility um staff's recommendation is right now we're currently working with the city of DeBry and the county to meet on a Clean Hands uh requirement for a
total um so that Clean Hands uh will need to be payback prior to the County council meeting which is March 18th we are working with them daily to get on the same agreement so we can have that done before uh the County council meeting would you please explain that a
little bit further yes thank you so every cycle before each cycle in the technical and also in the uh final review we do a clean hand search of the applicant which is required by the guide book so we look to see if there's any
money or outstanding violations that are owed to the county if there are uh we cannot move forward in the Pro uh project until that money is collected for compliance issue so like I said we're working with them now um so that
that it'll be taken care of before the before the grant comes to County Council that wasn't something that I I personally saw within the application yeah so you won't see it in the application it's just it's part of the echo guide book it's on page five we do a cleanand search and it says that if
there's any money that's owed to the county or any uh outstanding violations that the city or the nonprofit whoever in that case will pay back the county that the money is owed so you're saying right now that Barry owes the county money they do okay there is uh some
water and sewer fees that that need to be hashed out between so we we we grade this not taking that into consideration all because I didn't and then you will work with the very we're just making you aware that in order for them to for the
project to become eligible and to move it through County Council that that money has to be paid back prior to the March 18th meeting but it doesn't have anything to do with this project has no effect so and the city is definitely on board and they will pay the money back before and
shouldn't I I would like to be aware of that earlier in the process just speaking for myself yeah ju uh just a note it's it was on their okay on their on their sheet that they handed to us okay so it was listed on there because I had made a note on it you know thank you
John because I may just have missed it yeah just in case you did miss it yeah so it is mentioned in your in your final completeness review that I sent to you guys so it was there um so I'm just bringing to the attention because we needed to touch on it today right thank you so other than that staff recommends
this project for standard grant funding okay the uh applicant is here Jason sh is here to answer any questions about the project any questions comments all right Reggie Stephanie go ahead I'm sorry
please I app appreciate your diligence thank you well it was a little light reading for the past month or so so I I do enjoy reading it and and I think pickle ball is great and I enjoy the tour of the facility and looking at what you're doing that would be different
um in the public surveys and meetings I thought that that was great and you listed that you expected 118,000 potential visitors that would use the park so that was great thank you for including that because those are some important numbers um in your green
infrastructure standards you list the possibility of using a permeable surface rather than asphalt and has that been looked into further yeah we've we've investigated the permeable surface um and the basically the result is they
just don't hold up as good as the asphalt um so we stick with asphalt and then we just make sure that the site is uh you know prepared well enough to have the right storm water and drainage and all that stuff so it can last and and be good so it wouldn't last the 20-year
Covenant of the of the echo no a lot of times they don't they they deteriorate a lot of those um those permeable non- asphalt systems they're kind of like um linking tiles is the best way I can explain like rubber tiles and you know you'll get things that'll grow up inside
of them and out of the courts and they separate and they just they don't hold up like asphalt does so you know it was something we did entertain and we've looked into a couple different times that we just haven't on that route so your green infrastructure Su uh sustainability will be native plants
excuse me native plants and LED lighting I think he said which native plants are are very popular Topic in Orman Beach where I'm from yeah um they just approved that new structures have to have a minimum of native plants so that was so I'm glad that you included that
um are the courts going to be open at night oh yeah yeah they'll be open um until 10:00 at night um and the way we're going to start structure the lights the same way we do our existing courts so there's a a button that that gets attached to the light pole it's an hourong timer when that gets pressed so
they get an hour of lights and they can continue with an hour each time until 10 o'clock is the heart shut off um and that's consistent with our ball fields too and we do um games and practices out there we don't keep the lights on past 10 unless it's like a real big event or something special you wouldn't cut the
kids off if they're in the middle of a playoff or something well yeah no we we wouldn't do that to them we'd extend it to get them through their game and that's a great that's a great point because I was at my granddaughter's softball game and at 10:00 with a full stands and the game going on somebody in
ready to pitch the ball and the lights went off they just killed them yeah yeah a lot of times that stuff I mean we can we set all that stuff remotely you know and I'm sure a lot of them do too so we just have to consider all that stuff um on just one final comment about the application again I think it's a
it's a worthy project and and a needed upgrade to the facility there was no information about the project team or the staff that will be completing um as is requested in the Grant application and the business plan feasibility and marketing plans um are all part of the
the larger City plans I'm assuming I mean I'm sure that they are um difficult to read if they're not included yeah yeah I mean since this one is a is a restructure of an existing you know amenity already it's already been part of that plan and we we put it out there
I mentioned that the um uh at our walkth through that uh we have a pretty successful pickleball program and this will give us the opportunity to expand that so as soon as we do get the courts um you guys will see a lot of stuff going out um to try to get you know tournaments going youth programs you
know things like that um that we can uh we can do moving forward thank you any other comments I you know I looked I saw I saw the impervious and you know and I looked at that then I looked at the detail on the plan and I said no that didn't trans
didn't go that route any other comments no right I have a question yes could you explain what the liquid applied acrylic system that is the top surface of the quartz what it
is yeah I mean it's it's a sealer so um when we've refinish courts or when the new courts get built uh they pour the or they put down a base pour the asphalt and then they have to put on that uh that acrylic sealer uh to seal the asphalt before they paint it um and then
you're supposed to do that about every five to seven years so the reason we're going to do the resurfacing on the other ones is because we're about due um and it'll actually it'll actually save us some money if we're able to do it as part of this grant because we'll have the contractor mobilized at the Parker already um and then that just helps the
courts uh uphold it it doesn't allow the asphalt to deteriorate as quick um so I mean courts like these will last U much longer than like a road because they're not putting down those types of things on road services and they're going to have to repay them much more and get a lot more traffic you know so things like
that so that's what it is thank you anything else Reggie that's it thank you all right we'll proceed to scoring pat pat Drago 93 John Macaluso
90 Stephanie Mason Teague one moment please I'm sorry I'm getting out my calculator I don't want to give the wrong number Pat northy 95 Jay Pendergast
80 Reggie Santilli 95 Gerald feaser 86 Stephan Mason Teague 93 oh yeah all righty so 91.4 for city of DeBerry I'm sorry it's wrong something's
wrong okay yeah yeah Jay's is a low person on that one with an 80 yes they've got they've got Geral is 86 yeah we'll fix it that good catch thank you so we're gonna R uh J score instead of
uh J viser score make that one black okay all right so it's still going to be a 91.4 because it does take out the lowest score in the formula there so 91.4 for city of DeBerry uh would also be recommended to County Council uh so
that all these grants will go March 18th is the tenative date for these grants to be sent to County Council so we we have four successful projects leaving with our recommendation okay very correct and again it's March
18th that's a 4 PM night meeting okay uh we will go to uh new business today uh so in front of you you guys should have received this week uh the updated dce
plan so the dce plan will be uh new projects as well as uh adjustments and there's a uh removals of some projects from the plan all of these projects presented to you today are all uh
changes adjustments or removals to fiscal year 25 which were we're in right now so the first project uh being requested is the Spring Hill uh Park new basketball courts and improvements for
$450,000 uh this will be the design and construction of one full court and one half basketball court with pavilion benches bleachers and lighting uh we also have Carter Quail uh Rec uh Recreation and management plan
for 150,000 can P has a question oh I'm sorry can you tell me exact I was trying to pinpoint that's I no it's on 415 is it north or south of Deep Creek where where on 415 is this located directly across the street from the landfill so
yany's landfill NY landfill is across okay just north of rasley Road I'm sorry rasley okay across from rasley Road that's north of Deep Creek correct or is that South I'm but this property actually connects to Deep Creek it's an expans of Deep Creek on the corner so it
basically gets Deep Creek all the way to 415 on a Northerly pattern is that right next North yeah the the access will be north of the current Deep Creek preserve access but there's uh nearly two miles of 415 Frontage okay and there will be
access then on 415 for this park correct okay I just was trying to put it in my head where it was thank you so this will be a con a conceptual Recreation plan uh for amenities such as
Trails restrooms campsites Etc uh then we also have Michael crate Bicentennial Park pickle ball safety improvements so in 2023 we approved uh pickle ball courts to be at Bicentennial uh those courts now need a
shade structure or netting uh for pickle ball safety out there because the they are close to an adjacent softball baseball field uh then we have the Deltona Amphitheater design and Engineering uh this will be
for facility upgrades uh structural improvements acoustic enhancements and accessibility updates is there going to be any any uh update to how people actually the vendor actually accesses
the site there was no dressing room set aside for them at that at the time it was built that were valued engineered out some of that was valued engineered out because that was I'm just wondering whether how one of the concerns that Jeff Al had when
Jeff was sitting here was at this Amphitheater and it's great great use I'm happy to see doc the new County the new city manager reuse it and that relationship between Deltona and the county improved over the amphitheater but one of the concerns that he had expressed was that you you brought
people in to use the amphitheater you know groups bands and there was no no place for them to really set up pre performance has that changed or was that part of this or that's what that's what the design and Engineering is for so
Jeff altz comments for to all of us and he brought a team of can his colleagues out um kind of form the basis of what we're doing okay um as well as making it in a a a space where we could do ticketed events so how do we fence it how do we make different activity
centers on the amphitheater for people to enjoy that's what this team from West Virginia is working he had a very specific list of things that he thought need to happen for that site so I'm glad to hear that you are taking them into consideration thank you all right then we also have uh off
Beach parking land acquisition uh for $2 million this will be various locations throughout uh the county um near off Beach uh and they will include obviously free parking for beach access no it's not par free anymore is it
it is free for residents okay so vuia County residents so you can park there for free and on the beach make sure you go online and put your per fill out your permit because you'll pull up there and and they'll be checking license plates I'm gonna ask a very snarky question
your but two million set aside for off Beach parking I don't disagree with that I I think we need to do as much of off Beach parkings we can because I think Mother Nature has taking the beach away however the council that City now has
expanded in my opinion on on driving on the beach so where what kind of locations are we going to be looking for are we going to be looking for those places that are part of the habitat conservation plan where we can't drive are we looking at uh generally up and
down the beach I mean how are we identifying $2 million worth of our strategy is a general approach so you know Finding Parcels that are large enough to have a decent parking lot on the beach side is uh pretty difficult yeah um and we have some cities who've
written us out and and through their code that we can't have parking on the A on the east side of A1A um so it's a general approach I would say um you know really what these are and and this what I've shared before when we do these parking lots they're an insurance policy
for the future in case we ever at the national yeah at the wildlife service decides one day recognizes so can't drive on the beach the west side of A1A predominantly yes for cost savings mostly that way when the other side
washes away you still have a parking lot I I I'm sorry I'm longtime native okay me too and it makes me very sad but it's it's true okay what the beach used to look like in the 70s what looks like now or I want you know I want I was going to
wait till you finish the list but I had a couple of questions what is the operational impact on basketball fall course so the operational impact is there is for the lighting right so we're going to put LED lighting there there's a cost to run those lights so that is
the operational impact to the parks recreation budget okay then the other question I I I mostly was a comment and I wanted to note that we have design and Engineering in one project but not the actual this I love it okay so we have
design and Engineering in two projects okay so what we're doing his planning multi-year oh my goodness yes so we we we we obviously hear you right as staff so we are working to bring that design and
Engineering in year One Construction in year two okay and that's going to be the the plan moving forward for a lot of these projects I I just wanted to point that out and I really appreciate it and I think it makes all the sense in the world and um now the parking lot the off
Beach parking acquisition those are Parcels would not come before this group for any kind of comment am I understanding that correctly that is correct for acquisition so by by reviewing this today the C this will give the um staff and Council the
ability to negotiate an acquisition however when the parking lot is developed I'm sure it will come back through okay any other comments uh well yes I have a comment um why are we removing the South Beach Access walkover
from Frank ween Park I I haven't got there yet it's on the next slide you're ahead of me um but that is a a removal from the dce plan that project is being removed because they have received FEMA funding for that project okay so we're still getting the access we're just not
having to spend pay for it okay thank you all right and we and I and I spoke before we got to Historic Courthouse illumin design and Engineering oh boy yes so that's that's the last project here on the new request um so $15,000
for historic Courthouse illumination design and Engineering so this will uh enhance the visibility of the 1929 historic structure with exterior lighting right and then the plan is to make it you know historically appropriate and minim
minimally invasive because it is a historic structure okay Pat I I just need to tell to uh give kudos to dve Brandon who used to be Sheriff here I think he's now police chief up in Flag or one of those counties up there it was
his idea I shared this with him he's a static that we're moving forward with it so I just wanted to let everybody know that Dave is the reason we're looking at this and he's happy that we're doing it so so we don't have any anticipated
budgets for what the actual construction might be just the design and Engineering just pointing out thank you yes I think the idea too is hopefully this will you know I think the original request was to light the Dome of the historic Courthouse but if we're
going to do it we might as well do it right so we're going to take some time step back engage a consultant that does some of this lighting work on historic structures hopefully brings more people downtown I mean it's one of the most photographed buildings in uh Delan and inalia County
probably and that's exactly why we're doing this Patricia it's uh us stabbing in the dark if we're asking for a por money without the design and engineering done so we're doing it to improve our accuracy and our ask I I think this is commendable and it is a model for
others y okay I'm going to continue on here uh we do have one project adjustment uh in 25 it's going to be for the Delan Library Playard um so during the design phase we identified a a Swale and
retention area on the property uh so the required addition of the boardwalk to ensure Ada access to the playground was needed so we uh are adding uh $100,000 to the project but Library fund is also going to cover the $100,000 match as
well that yes sir I have a question about that to bring me up to speed so the county is paying for a park through the library Fund in downtown Delan is danan contributed anything to this it is not so it's not a part it's a Playard
attached to the library you can only get to it through the library so it comes out at the children's section on the corner there of Howry um there's kind of a swell there that if you drive by you'll see that's so we need to get over it so two things if you combine physical activity with mental stretching or
mental activity the research says um you've got a real winner so you have kids that are inside doing academic things and reading and they can go outside and do something physical um it's been highly successful we have two on the east side side we're bringing this concept to the West Side now okay I
I get that I just was I I saw that spot and I said they just crammed a bunch of apartments in down there without any amenities and I thought know surely we're not paying there for park for all little apartment kids to go play in because there's no green space so I I get this okay thank you for the clarification only only access through
the we're doing one in Pearson too the mayor is very excited um sneak peek we're moving from 900 foot building and Pearson to the old Med Center at the elementary school 4,000 ft plus the playground is going to be a real gym for
that Community that's going to be wow all right and then we are taking two projects out of uh the DC which we talked about Frank renan for FEMA and we're also removing the humpback whale skeleton articulation so cool why are we
removing so that that project is at the Marine Science Center right and they have a few projects that are in the DC right now so they have the living Reef uh the coral lab the artificial reef and the living Shoreline project so all of
those exhibits that they have currently are taking up the majority of the space so there's not any ample space to be able to put this whale cool project in the project so that we we've decided to pull it out so and they are scheduled to
be open can't you do something outside like a maybe maybe different material but something outside that would be like an art in public places but also would be a whale Skeleton on that property I mean this is a really cool project so I'm
just I'm just throwing that out sorry we'll talk to Ginger yeah yeah we'll we'll talk to Ginger and Chad about it all right could do that too yeah any more comments on our questions on the dce
plan from Members anything Stephanie all right all righty moving on can I ask just followup question um I know that we're doing some uh at the um environmental Learning Center in Delona the scrub J habitat and all that and I
know that we're doing some stuff outside but we're also looking at doing some things inside inside that little Museum um did did I did we complete that I haven't been there for a little bit I'm just wondering what we're doing jiel
how's the percentage done for you so we're replacing the exhibits in Leonia I trust me I asked if this this humpback money could go to Leonia and Tel sub SC slapped me down real quick so yes they're almost done he has the percentage complete of the project I
know that they've had trouble finding people to build the interactive exhibits but they're they know but that is ongoing it is ongoing all right thank you yeah and and refer back to the uh quarterly update sheet that I provided to you guys and then next quarter you'll get another up with the
projects any other questions okay moving on to staff comments y so moving on to comments here uh just want to keep you guys informed of how hard we've been working on the Consulting with the Strategic plan as
well as with Cloud creations and the marketing piece um so we work weekly bi-weekly with them to move forward so I wanted to share uh a press release here that tpma put on their website just uh
talking about uh you know guiding this program to our 2020 our 2040 Vision so I will share this with you um but they're spearheading the strategic planning process um and we're honored to partner with them and uh some of the things
we've been doing right now we're engaging in Discovery and initial analysis of the echo data and documents so coming forward before your guys next meeting we'll be in contact with you guys because we're going to start engaging Community stakeholder feedback
all of you will be a part of that um so we will be doing surveys focus groups and interviews um we will be meeting with them next week to determine how we're going to get this information out the survey questions and who's going to be in what group but you guys will be definitely involved as as well as our
other uh grant writers and grantees and nonprofits that are part of the echo program uh update on cloud creation so we've been working weekly with them to set up the new application portal um
through Salesforce uh for database and getting on the right page for how we can move our application from paper to an online portal' wonderful and then as far as marketing is concerned uh we are working on a consumer facing
micro site which uh will engage and integrate Bia forever uh to have Synergy between between the two programs that currently exist um we're also working on an incentive Awards program for public engagement and then the next step would
be working with the convention and visitor bureaus as well to get them on board to help uh some marketing how are we bringing in the tourism authorities in this what what what are we going to do about them because they're really so what Daniel meant to say instead of
convention Bureau is the the authorities okay so we have actually hired Aqua marketing who is the same marketing firm that does marketing for them for each of the advertising agencies as well as the airport and Ocean Center so we'll be kind of working with them to attract
people to the area using our Echo amenities you um in the slide that you went through it talked about public participation public part involvement in working with the the future for how would that be happening which slide was it the
marketing one it was a no uh had a page and it said Dr Brad bbau will be working with on public involvement and parti I just read yeah so on that on that uh uh so website there we're just we're okay
let's see uh it's a Grassroots style informed so okay yeah we have multiple Target audiences for the study much like Stetson did when they did it 20 years ago for us so we will have the a survey out to the general Community um which basically at the end of the day that's
why I put it in here um what what it told that survey told us people love Echo amenities but they don't know what Echo is so at that time the news journal said call it the good life fund that's why I put that in there okay um I like that but so survey to the public and
they actually really like the survey that we developed three or four years ago and are going to build on it so we have some baseline data from the previous years so the general public then we also have a lot of stakeholders of the program that we will do like Daniel said focus groups um for one to
talk about the Strategic plan but then focus groups with some of our grant writers to give us some feedback on our process and how cumbersome it is and what are some changes we could make to it okay so when I eyes why look next steps that was where I saw that okay thank you yeah so we've we've they were
a bit of I'd say surprised at the number of stakeholders we have for the program so we've already kind of moved some things around for them to do more interviews and more focus groups um I'm ex I'm excited they've got a lot of experience doing these mostly in the
economic development field but evaluation and research um is one of their um one of their areas of expertise as well so we've asked them to try to marry give us some economic data that we can tell the council about our uh Echo
projects I was just going to ask is there a way that we can quantify what eeko has done because that we've asked them that and the guy I asked him if he was okay because he was just thinking but he was just that's we were on the call yeah like I said we're
working very hard with them so we meet with them pretty much weekly to try to get this to the Finish Finish Line so that way we can have all three of these things implemented by next Grant cycle the goal I I you know with this is our what second iteration of this and people
still don't understand what it is and I'm still reading things comments that are made by people that oh we should do away with Eko Echo is in my opinion one of the great projects that we do it's quality of life project so and I and and I think in the past we've looked at
different uh surveys and the participation rate is something that I think is really uh difficult to get a good participation rate that samples the community so I'll be curious how they approach that well and and that's one of the things I told them people won't
click on the survey unless they know what Eko is so we've already put ourselves about eightball a little bit yeah very good thank you anything else that's all I have today oh yeah so I did bring you guys uh
that's a uh some Doc leaper Doris leaper literature that was given to uh Nick and I yesterday when we were meeting with ACA uh when we uh walked on door sleeper in the D property yesterday so I just wanted you guys to
have that thought it' be good information to share where are they using this is it just a a takeaway yeah it's a takeaway they have it at the Atlantic Center for the Arts um so they gave it to us yesterday um so they plan on doing some art and curation for us at
the door sleeper spr Creek preserve D property yes I'll jump in real quick on that uh they are working with us on that uh tors sleeper dce project for the Reed Hughes environmental Learning Center so they're going to be providing a lot of the information and design of the
educational components that are going to be going out there so we met on site yesterday uh just to do a walk through uh to get get that started um we're still planning on breaking ground around June is our current uh Target on calendar for that
site and to remind the committee because there's some new folks jald and others is what we're really doing is highlighting Reed hughes's contribution to our community but also kind of the history of um conservation in our County I mean we were the first County in the
nation to essentially say We'll tax ourselves for the 2 million do Bond in' 86 and so kind of walk through where that came from who are the leaders Walter bardman you know and others in this community doc leaper um so it's going to be a walk around the oak tree but you learn about
these people um and the conservation it's you know people always say conservation's in the DNA of this County and we're going to tell that story very good thank you anything else from
staff Nick okay Nick advisor member commas welcome Jerry and Reggie I hope that you will be sitting in the chair next time and so take care thank you Pat thank you running new meeting did a
great job thank you madam Vice chair real quick I just wanted to bring up um the uh Eco Rover chair that uh the county was just awarded a grant for the purchase um this will be used at the uh or stationed at the Lona environmental
Learning Center um to get people on to Lona preserve um using the uh laa Boardwalk that's it's also into DC plan so um that's going to give us U the ability to give the public access out there that couldn't normally access L
your preserve you know it's scrub habitat it's very Sandy uh the Eco River track chair is basically a u um a wheelchair that has tracks on it that can Traverse a rough terrain it can go through 8 in of water uh drive over routes um and gives them access to miles
of trails and La your preserve and and will that get to the T to the top of the CER which I think is 80 feet maybe um if the trail goes there you could get there with this chair okay all right Nick I I remember talking about this uh what was the cost of the chair the total cost of
the chair from the um manufacturer is $16,600 one six6 we got a grant for 10,000 of it our rotary SP helped sponsor the one in in Blue Spring you might think about
asking them for some money Stephanie um just wanted to say thank you to this committee and to the staff um this will be my last meeting I'm serving on this committee I've enjoyed it very much and learned very much and
appreciate how we have grown and just looking at some of the things and you said we listen to you and you did and we appreciate that very much um I was able to go to the um opening of the skateboard park um which was a nice Circle that was one of the first
projects that came before us and um it was a wonderful event and some incredible skateboarders were out there using the facility that is unique to new smna beach and I think in the whole state they were saying it was really sought a sought-after place and we were a part of that and so that was Wonder
wonderful to see um just on a on a side note um I'm really looking forward to the application changes that you were talking talking about and I think that the the one siiz fits-all application um didn't serve us very well as reviewers
or the applicants there's such a difference between a municipality and a cultural arts organization and I think that the across the board the the changes that you've suggested are going to make a real difference not only to the reviewers but to the applicants as
well um some of the things that could be fillable now some of the things that came up over and over again with um not having numbers not having service numbers or not having budget numbers could be fillable questions and then you can't skip them because they're fillable questions and that's so much easier to
do on that digital um application that you're looking into and I think it will will really help um the applicants as well as the reviewers so that we can get a good idea of those numbers which is which is so important because as you said you know the taxpayers agreed to
tax themselves to put these projects in and as it is they they kind of don't know what what it is even after how many years Pat when did we start this 20 start 20 fourth year 24th year and so I
I think there's some really wonderful changes and improvements on the horizon and I look forward to reading about them in the new press release that you're going to do but I appreciate it it's been wonderful working with all of you and the the applicants and kudos to the staff um really working hard and we I
appreciate it we're going to miss you Stephanie we're gonna miss you any other comments I just want to say thank you for all that you do that you did here and that you will do in the future in your role there and I want to welcome Feer Gerald again I
served with him the last time so he has some experience so welcome and goodbye sorry anyone else that being thank thank you we're adjourned e for