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February 7 and I would like to welcome everyone to the vucha forever advisory committee meeting and as usual if everyone could please ensure that their phones are on silent so that we don't interrupt our speakers I would appreciate that and before we go to roll call um I understand that Mr ltin has asked to attend remotely today and if I could have um Miss slack just review for us
what the criteria is so that we are all on the same page here I would appreciate it certainly good morning Sabrina slack assistant County attorney um the rule for remote attendance is there has to be a quorum physically present and once the um meeting is convened the physically present quum can then uh make a motion to allow a member to appear remotely if the member has extenuating circumstances
that are beyond their control uh that can't be something like planned it's like a vacation or for convenience it has to be something uh that was um like for instance a medical reason or without going into the details of their reason or something that they couldn't control like they were caught in another uh State due to weather it has to be extenda circumstances out of their control okay so we do the normal roll call first to establish a quorum and
then entertain a motion to allow or not allow him to attend remotely correct then a motion would have to be made and it would it's just a majority vote okay okay thank you with that could we have the um roll call please okay Wanda vanam here Jessica gal here Steve Crump here Kelly frasa here John gamble here uh Derek lontine is the one that was um
participating uh virtually after if y'all decide to um John Macaluso here Suzanne Shyer here David Sosa here we have a quorum okay so with that um we need a motion to discuss whether or not Mr ltin can uh attend remotely so would someone like to make a motion on that so moved okay we have a motion by Mr Sosa
I'll second and a second by Mr rasa all in favor signal by saying I I discussion discussion yes discussion on the motion I think we need to hear his reason right I'm sorry I think we need to hear his reason right Miss slack oh yeah it's a factual determination as to what the extenuating
circumstances are but as I said uh due to Hippa you can't really go into uh the medical reasons or any of the details thereof so it's just a matter of putting on the record what the factual basis is okay and do we know that it's medical is that what was presented I don't know maybe the staff good morning this is Tim with Tim teler um with fuchia fuchia County so the communication from Mr L Montaine is
that he was ill today and he was requesting to attend attend remotely but that that's the extent of the knowledge I have on the subject okay and that's that's fine okay very good if I could point out I think this is the second time in the row Mr in a row Mr L L montine has missed both both meetings ill both times further discussion okay we have a motion in a
second to allow him to attend remotely all in favor signal by saying I I I opposed okay motion passes okay that brings us to public participation I do not see anyone here uh to do public participation so next we have approval of the December 6 2024 for meetings uh excuse me meeting minutes
does anyone have any uh comments clarifications Corrections on the minutes okay hearing none a motion please I move that we accept the minutes of December 6 2024 okay motion by Mr maaloa thank you second second by Miss scal discussion all in favor signal by saying I I I
okay minutes are approved all right item four introduction of the new chief of Land Management uh good morning Nick Dunn I'm resource stewardship direct um many of you have noticed that things are a little different in our setup this morning um that's because we would like to welcome a uh new member to our team and nobody's more excited than I am to make this announcement today um I'd like to welcome Hunter Fulmer to the chief of Land Management position so
Hunter is now uh in the old position I used to have for Land Management so he will be running Our Land Management program and with that I'll turn it over to Hunter for a quick introduction hello everyone uh great to see the committee here a little bit about myself I worked for Florida Fish and Wildlife for 6 and a half years around that in Southwest Florida Porta area Sarasota um I grew up in Texas South of Dallas attended Texas M have a degree in
Wildlife ecology um my time at FWC was um pretty great I really enjoyed working for the state um I was able to work in endanger threatened species management um also Land Management prescribed fire so very excited to be in this new role met a lot of wonderful people already and very excited to be here and work with youall so thank you welcome I'm looking forward to hearing more from you okay any questions all right I have a I have a question
sorry um not pertaining to um the new gentleman but I have a question pertaining to is Mr L montine voting uh today and if so is he on speaker like I'm trying to get some kind of clarification here the um the motion by the board would have been allow would allow him to participate remotely which would allow
him to participate in discussions and to vote um the technology of him appearing is handled through our booth and I think it's just uh he's just on a verbal okay but he is voting today yes that was what you uh approved by allowing him to attend uh due to extenuating circumstances okay that's fine I'm just trying to figure out how we're supposed to know how he votes that's all I mean what will happen is when uh Miss vanam takes the vote uh she
will actually have to have him verbalize his vote separately and there's usually a delay so you typically when this happens uh you will all vote and his uh vote will come in a few seconds late so typically you'll hear it okay I I guess I didn't realize that I knew he wasn't at the last attending in person but I didn't realize that happened at the last meeting that's why I'm asking now for think we made a motion for him to attend that way at the last meeting so at the
last meeting he was just uh listening in okay gotcha okay yeah so the difference is you've actually made a a motion and you made a finding that he had extenda circumstances that he could not be here today except remotely right so the board approved him attending virtually I understand yeah I didn't before but I do now okay okay anyone else before we move move on all right um item number five is
old business which is the proposed 2025 meeting schedule good morning uh Tim teler again so apologies if this wasn't in your packet but we do have it up on the screen today hopefully you've had an opportunity from the December meeting to today to take a look at your calendars and um we are looking for an adoption of a meeting schedule
okay does any anyone know if they have any conflicts yeah I have a conflict with uh the June 27th and the August 29th for June and August yeah okay okay do we know if there is another date in June that would work or and in August
in in the June I may be the only one that has a problem but I'm gone from June 1 to July 16th out of the country so okay so we may need from June 1 to July okay so that's quite an extensive time so we may need to leave that one are you okay yeah I I can miss one I've I don't think I've ever missed one since I've been on the board so no I don't either okay does anyone else know if
they have a conflict with [Music] June okay how about August that one was August 29 yeah I'm available um the first two weeks in August or uh like the after the Labor Day in September and I would only say for the August date if we move it I'm
unavailable for the middle two so the first week in August would be okay so you would be available missc the first two weeks of August um August 1st and 8th but not 15th and 22nd okay all right do we want to look at schedules um for availability of Chambers and so on or do we want to put that into the next meeting vote on that date at the next
meeting okay shall we approve the other dates and leave August tenative for now until everyone gets a chance to look at calendars and come back for August can can I say something I'm sorry can I speak um unless I'm missing it the calendar is not in this binder um that we received I do have it in my book
though written down um I'm I'm just asking a question here okay so no one get offended is it practical for this committee when it's February and there's going to be new people coming in to set a schedule for new people who may come in and say they can't come to meetings either I'm just asking that's all I'm just asking yeah I think historically that is how we've done it but we can if it's the
desire of the committee to I also don't on this I also don't know what legally we're allowed to do so if we have to pass it today I'm not opposed I'm just simply asking a question okay what's the feeling of other members would you prefer to hold off on this or move forward today with the exception of the August meeting com if we if we approve Pro today we can modify down the road right
that's if if we be yeah yes okay yes and and we would like to at least lock in April okay so we're going to vote today on all except the August meeting or do you want to have us vote on the whole thing and then make changes in April what's easiest for everyone personally I think you should
lock them all in today that way you secure the room just in case come August you can not secure the room so it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it so so you would prefer to leave the August date as it is right now until the next meeting yes and then at that point we can learn for Miss Russell whether or not the chambers are available and other schedules if we do it that way that we know that we're going to discuss August further in April
does that make sense I I just um I agree what he said because if you can't get the chamber then that's kind of a mute point but I do want to say if we wait all the way till April to schedule the rest of the year you know trying to schedule a vacation that's really late in the year to try to book flights and things and um I haven't missed a meeting in four years
but it's it is becoming incredibly difficult to wait until April to try to book a trip I'm just pointing this out um it makes it really hard it does and that's one reason I brought it up about do we book it do we not I'm really trying really hard here not to offend anyone I'm just saying it becomes very hard and anyone that serves on more than one committee that becomes really difficult as well for them um and their own personal life so I I'm on this committee that's you know not a problem
for me but I'm just kind of talking out loud here that's all okay so am I correct in thinking General consensus is that we move forward and approve the schedule as it is here meanwhile Miss Russell is going to look at our August dates and she can probably send those to us very soon and let us know if there is another date in
August that works okay Madam chairman we have one new Comm we have one new Committee Member we've already shared the dates of the meetings with him and he has no objections okay thank you for saying that thank you okay very good so a motion on the uh proposed meeting schedule I move to pass the meeting schedule the way it's presented here
okay I'll second okay Motion in a second to accept the schedule as proposed all in favor I any opposed Mr lontine okay we have a majority either way so okay moving on to new business resolution talk a
ago okay we have an opportunity to advance the slide please thank you okay so we are um continuing our work on the uh uh updates to our resolution here we have uh had a late distribution last night I don't know if folks have had time to fully digest some of those uh Concepts that have been incorporated into the draft resolution um but at this time we we we have a a series of changes that staff has recommended within the
document itself I understand some of you may have some further ideas that may help us clarify the document um on the screen we have a a a a schedule of the changes that staff has made within your draft document um and we can go over any of those uh individually or we could just kind of take them as a body if the if the committee prefers that so I I'll I'll I'll turn back to the committee and and and just try to get an understanding how you would like to proceed in reviewing the proposed
changes to the resolution jtim let me let me ask if you don't I'm sorry didn't jump in there um the these proposed and recommended changes now you updated some last night is that include are the updates included in this Pion I mean is it included in our is in that one so hand out so those changes that went out last night are in your packet as you walked into your your seats this morning if you took your
binder home if you picked it up early they should have been just right in front of your chair when you when you came in this morning so it's the changes on page 19 are were the late additions so if you have a page 19 you're good okay thank you okay does anyone have additional changes Corrections that they noted while they were looking over the packet
okay well Mr SOS is looking for his um I'm going to bring up a couple if we could go to page 12 of the resolution which is page I believe 26 in our um books that's red when we get to the last paragraph um it states initial property eligibility evaluation and nominator notification by County
staff I'm wondering if we should remove that word nominator to keep things um the same and the third line um site ranking criteria shall be provided to the person nominating the property um do we want to remove that and then also the property owner and nominator shall be given an opportunity to Pro provide additional written do we want to remove that so
that we're consistent I I would agree with you because we worked to get nominating nominator out of there as as a committee last time okay and then if we go to page 13 which is 27 um that first paragraph eligibility review we are stating here uh an eligibility evaluation report on nominated property should we change that
perhaps to completed applications and moving further down that paragraph um we have notice of the vucha forever advisory committee meeting date to the property owner um do we want to change that where we have organization nominating the property should we put in there any person or organization which submitted the application excuse
me does that make sense to stay um consistent yes okay all right and then Mr Sosa what were you did you find what you were looking at yes a question uh regarding page 14 it says fee simple application which has been determined by the valua forever advisory committee to be eligible is not required to have their eligib eligibility
reviewed in the event they decide to switch from fee simple to conservation easement I don't have an issue with that but um I know we had discussed I don't see it in here that if you know somebody had put in an application for fee simple and it didn't meet the eligibility but it would be a good conservation easement I didn't see that in here is that going to be part of this uh document I think did we we not discuss that the um property owner has to have
indicated that they would accept or be interested in a conservation easement in addition or instead of a fee simple so so the the answer is affirmative to to your statement U Madam chairman so we we would certainly want to um communicate with the applicant and ensure that they they were uh open to a conservation ement on the property rather than then Fe simple so um it might require us returning to the
committee we you know if we don't have a um applicant in the audience or we haven't discussed it ahead of time it might require us returning to the committee to clarify that so we should not vote on a conservation easement on a property that has been submitted for a fee simple yes correct okay okay okay so um page 30 um the language can be removed from B
with two ranking cycle ranking Cycles it can be removed from the list um that would be if the committee recommended correct right so here's my here's what I'm
bringing up the ranking site we we are now all in one meeting approving and ranking so before that would have been longer but now it's a whole lot shorter so I'm just pointing this out because if we had meetings two months in a row it's going to be on the b list for about two months is that long enough for something to change I'm really doubtful so do you see what I'm bringing what I mean here yeah understand what you're getting at but um I think the way this is worded the committee would need to make a
motion that it be removed so if we felt that it needed more time if we did not make a motion unless the County Council took it on themselves to do this but if we did not make a motion then it wouldn't go in front of council to be removed that's fine I that's fine I'm just kind of pointing out the fact that the ranking cycle definitely changed yeah that's all y no
agreed okay anyone else okay now do we what is the intent of Staff here do you want us to vote on this today or do you want to give everyone time to look at the the changes and then review it what is the feeling of Staff here so we would prefer to have a motion today and that would allow us to remain on the historic schedule for presentation of these changes to the resolution okay okay is committee
comfortable with voting today yeah what are we doing with her suggestion with the proposed changes yeah I just like to to point out the changes we're bringing today are the requests that were uh brought in by the committee um with staff's ch uh changes as well so we are asking for a vote today okay okay that's I have a question Miss Shyer because your changes uh how
long is this in effect for the way it is right now today if we vote we've been on a schedule to change it every other year I was just making sure that was still the case he just proposed other changes it's a very any other questions comments it it it might be good for me if we went through real quick the changes we want one more time okay and that's so I can I'm actually going to write in the book and cross out and add
in okay okay so I I had page 26 read uh under G strike nominator and change to submitter we're taking the word nominator out of the underlined portion of G yes and removing uh criteria shall be provided to the person nominating the property removing that and leaving it at
ranking criteria shall be provided to the property owner and then the property owner and nominator shall be given an opportunity we're removing the and nominator so that we're sticking with the property owner the applicant receiving the information
make sense and then on page 27 s on the third line instead of nominated property sorry third line under eligibility review instead of nominated properties putting complete
applications and then going down three more lines any person or organization which submitted the property again indicating that information is not given to made public to anyone other than the could you repeat could you repeat that
um the second one I'm sorry you said it was the third line down and the third line under eligibility review MH was complete complete applications M and what was the second one and then if you go down three more lines at the end any [Music] person or organization which submitted the property and we're
removing persons that was those were the changes uh trying to remain consistent so yes for removing persons or or organization I'm sorry I'm a little confused on I think for that one you're striking correct me if I'm wrong I think we are replacing just the nominating so it will say the property owner and the persons or organization which submitted the property instead of
nominated okay so where it says organization nominating we're just changing that nominating word removing the word nominating removing it removing nominated y thank you hey can I can I pause y'all just one second hey dck um can you do a mic check for me please real quick don't worry about it but if he didn't
get it we're going to have a bigger problem Derek I'd like to make the record show that Derek is um not participating at this time until we get a further mic check I thought I heard him like whisper yeah right here oh yeah that was yeah okay Derek one last
time we can continue the meeting M chair okay all right Mr Crump did you want to go over the other changes that are on the uh new handout as well no I was I was fine with those you're fine with those okay the even including the ones that came in last night no you better we better look at that let's go through let's go over that because I I couldn't find it it's too
much to read at 9 o' at night okay okay so do we have just the changes that were made last night so that we can review those and are we correct that the changes that were recently made are the one shown in green and the track changes and the red is everything else we PR previously reviewed so it's just the green text and the most recent handout this pack you have here these are the page numbers where you'll find the changes M
please if you turn to page it's comedy of errors this morning I swear get a laugh so you look on the back we've added the last two which are on page 19 that's where you can find them and we'll could certainly go over them so I was I was just for Sabrina and I sake I was over
getting a copy of a red line did we make any adjustments to the red lines that were in here we did just now yeah we went through some minor changes we we marked it up we can hand it in okay so I will make a copy of that when we're just if you wrote them down when we're done I will go make copies for everyone and then we'll we may have to come back Madam chair to vote on it but we want to make sure everyone has a copy of them okay okay so do you want to hold have us hold off no you please proceed okay continue
all right and Mr Crump are you okay um looking at page 19 now understanding that those are the changes we didn't have until last night yes okay all right anyone else Miss Shyer look um I'm bringing this up again I understand what I what you know your response was about us being able to vote
on this but the cycle has drastically changed right weren't we were we ranking how many times a year were we ranking before so previously we had um uh ranking every other meeting and there were only four meetings a year I believe it's only about twice a year that we were actually ranking projects when I first arrived here so we're going from twice year
to almost two months every other month is our current schedule every other month Y and I understand we have the right to vote but it kind of makes me cringe to think that anyone would bring up a vote on something to remove it from the be list on that short amount of time we have had properties on the b list for a really long time before this is why I'm bringing this up that
actually some of them ended up qualifying and if they weren't on the b list then they would have to reapply to go through the whole thing again and I don't think that's what we want no but again it would have to be a majority vote by the committee to recommend to council that it be removed so if someone were to bring it up I do understand and the majority of the committee did not feel that it was appropriate to remove it at that
time right if uh I think if May looking at this differently um it the property will stay on the b list until staff brings it back to the committee for consideration it's not an automatic drop off and we don't automatically bring them to each meeting okay that's helpful I'm just pointing out we've had properties on the b list for a really long time that ended up
qualifying yeah so we are still actively uh working some of those negotiations on the be list so um yeah they they stay on we still try to close those deals just even if they are on the be list so um and we use it more of like a strategic tool if you'll remember what we did with the orand application cuz they were the only city that had identified properties that they wanted vucha forever to acquire and um they didn't set aside any budget money for those they just presented them to us and this was the p palmeran and Penland and palmeran
property so in this committee meeting we moved it to the be list they got the message they found some money to match and the next meeting we moved it from the B to the a list and so I'm thinking like you're saying yeah which is why I don't want them just removed from the b list on short turnaround I'm thinking exactly what you're saying that's all I think pinland is the only one we've moved from from be since I've sat in this chair so we've kept them on there as a strategic move
just to keep them um in you know ready to go if perhaps something changes and we'll bring back to you it's got to be something that changes to the application that we would bring it back to you whether to remove it or um move it to the a list so another reason for it to stay on the b list is if Florida forever or another entity comes in and purchases it and that without bcia forever but quite frankly I like receiving those types of updates M and if it's off the be list I don't
necessarily I know I can ask but I don't think you're going to be giving us those types of updates so if something is a purchase that was on the b list I think the committee would want to know so I'm also looking at it like if that were a reason yeah we certainly let you know if there's progress or uh on the b list I think the last few meetings Tim's given an update on tamoka Marsh and we probably have another one today which is on the b list got it you good okay all right any other questions comments on the
resolution okay would someone like to make I'm sorry I think it's Derek Derek oh are you there can you hear me now there you are yep oh great sorry I I'm not sure how well you can hear me is it okay or should I try to speak louder you're good right now you're good right now okay thank you um yeah I think with the language on some of it I just wanted to say I I did like
um I guess part of how it used to be with the the nominated nomination language um and not submitting language uh on at least some parts of the early changes but um I think that's there's so many other good changes that are needed that um I just wanted to point that out that a lot of times people um have told me that using the word submit is always a negative connotation terms at least I just want to keep the language to be
positive um and so that was basically the extent of my suggestion and yeah sorry if you couldn't hear me earlier I was trying to bring these up when um they were being discussed but I guess you couldn't hear me so sorry about that okay I'm sorry is there a specific point is there a specific point or a specific portion of the resolution that you're referring to here Derek I'm sorry well yes I think it was like the first
three on page six at least it was called page six although I think it also has another number at the bottom um but again I think um I'm not sure if it's if it's worth uh mentioning that and actually the uh I'm trying to actually see what pages you guys are on but it's not um showing up well on this um screen I got here so anyway just uh yeah any time when they were adding the word submit I think I thought we could do a
different language but all the other grammatical changes were um okay okay so your primary concern is with removing the the nomination language and we discuss that at length at a couple of meetings and the workshop right yes so I'm still opposed to those changes but I understand if I'm outvoted it's okay okay all right so you're aware that we discussed it the committee took a vote um and decided to
remove that language correct uh at some point I think there yes there there has been discussion over the last few meetings yes I remember okay okay all right um anything [Music] else uh no thank you
okay all right we need to go over the two addition Mike we need to go over the two additional ones correct before you vote so the the late additions so these were my suggestions because the state has changed language that um you know previously we had a suit we required a 2third f by Council um anything above the average of the appraisals the state has went to sharing the appraisals with they it's not a May it's a sha so they
have to hand when they're negotiating with the property owner they hand them the appraisals for which they are negotiating a purchase price it's really hard to say I can only pay 95% of the highest one or I need a super majority vote to get above the average of the two um so the state has kind of taking the art out of the negotiation but that's for expediency look this is what the appraisal says this is is what we can give you take it or leave it okay essentially um we have some individuals
in our County that are talking directly to Florida forever okay and so it puts us at a disadvantage if we need a super majority vote to get to that highest value which is that we do two appraisals on every property we hire a reviewer appraiser to make sure that the judgments are sound the valuations are sound I feel comfortable with our process and the the appraisal is enough that think about your property you know if you have two appraisals you want the
higher of the two and we're competing with people who will pay above the appraised value to get the property in terms of you know Alternatives so this is just something that aligns us with State Statute um now it does as Tim would say take the art of the deal out the art of the deal out but um I think it's the environment that we find ourselves in look we've got to preserve 8 million more Acres as soon as possible okay to complete the wildlife
Corridor yeah okay all right understood all right then you want us to hold off on taking a vote until we have the additional changes that we made today in front of you and writing yes we I'm going to go make a copy of Jessica's paper with the changes and I'll give one to everyone we can review it one last time because we like to take it to council typically in in March when we is when we do these okay so we'll we'll go back to this at the end of the meeting
yes ma'am if you don't mind all right very good okay so that puts us to Item B under new business our work plan and goals okay we're going to uh Advance the slide here to the next um item which is our work planning goals this is essentially an annual product that the committee uh reviews and uh presents to the County Council for approval so we
have a number of um goals in front of you this morning for your consideration and um we open it up to any questions you may have on that matter anyone have any additional goals they would like to see on here or objection to any of the ones that are stated I'm glad to see the small lot acquisition on there because that is
something that I think we need to continue to pursue whenever we can we do and and I can provide some updates on on that at the end of the meeting too okay any comments questions all right do you want us to take a vote on this yes ma'am please okay all right could we have uh a motion to approve the work plan and goals as
stated I'll make a motion okay motion by Miss rasca second second by Mr gamble all in favor I I I any opposed Mr lontine uh I voted in favor if you can hear me um although it I just want to point out that it's uh it's very hard to read um what is on the online version I assume it's what
was in the packet but it it looks entirely uh just pixelated um on this end I'm not sure if that there's a a way that can be fixed but just for future reference thanks okay so you did vote I yes on the on the approval correct okay very good the motion passes unanimously on that okay item C committee review and sorting
into the ab list okay next slide please okay so we are um going to begin with the ranking process this time and and the the concept here is these where the last items you handled at the previous meeting so we're going to pick them up again first before we get to the eligibility item that you'll also review today uh we have five items for you to consider from the previous meeting we have the overall slide on the first screen here here and uh moving forward uh Ashlin if you could move us to the
next slide so the first item for your uh consideration on ranking is the uh John Anderson Drive property this is a fee simple acquisition 14 acres in size it have received 11 out of 21 of uh the affirmative site ranking criteria and the minimum required was nine um it's a little bit hazy on the potential matching funds and I can go into some detail there it does have some attributes of being within the uh natural resource management area as well as the environmental core overlay and with that I stand by for any
questions okay any questions or comments Miss Shyer uh I have basically all the same questions that I had the last meeting because now you've toured the property and before you had not so um the dock that's on the property what condition was that in um your referring to the John Anderson property correct it's affirmative yes okay so um I had asked last time about
the size and condition of the dock and I'm asking the same question again because under Recreation that would impact that so I'm that's why I'm asking okay so the condition of the dock is an interesting question because we're talking about condition for public access it was certainly serviceable when staff visited the property there uh whether it needs Improvement for liability concerns about public access is beyond my scope but it certainly is a
permitted functional dock on the property okay um I take it that the storage I I'm kind of guessing this and I did drive by the property since I could not tour it that day that we discussed I drove by there so I but it's fenced so I couldn't see all the way in but I'm assuming that storage building that was on the property can be removed because it said there was a storage facility there so can it be removed or would it
be removed kind of both Tim Tim I'll jump in real quick from the Land Management perspective when we when we take on a new property and evaluate it we look at every asset currently on the property and determine whether that could be used for public use or possibly um an asset to the managing agency or if it needs to be removed or replaced depending on the long-term goals of the management plan so okay okay so the reason I'm asking is because volucia forever does not normally purchase properties with
buildings on them so I just simply wanted to know um is it very large like would you consider keeping it you know you don't normally purchase that's I'm kind of just asking this question because as it relates to you don't normally purchase land with buildings on them correct but we will look at it to see if it's an asset to the programmer not right okay and that and that's assuming that
you know we would be the managing agency so if if the state is going to be the managing agency they have that same process for their management plan to see if it would be included right I think the size would matter though like purchase yeah okay I'm gonna I'm going to let it go but I I I know what you're saying I get it um I understand uh as far as has [Music]
um so looking at that I couldn't tell if that had been cleared in the area that's open and I asked last time were the Uplands cleared [Music] and well let's just start with that uh the the entire Ops have not been
cleared I understand that there's a portion that were cleared in the past but they are not all cleared right now right I understand the whole thing's not cleared but part of it was cleared okay and I I'm just going to go back to what I said the first time I I also opposed that price being in the original packet um it's not up to this committee
to be discussing the price on a for sale sign yeah prices will be negotiated by staff down the road as not part of the committee discussion thank you for saying that out loud um it is currently zoned for velopment correct yes affirmative yes yes thank
you that's all okay any other questions comments pertaining to whether it goes on the a or the B Miss scy I'll make a motion that we place this on the b list on the b list okay all right so we have a motion from Miss SC that this goes on the b list so do we have a second on that motion second was that you Mr gamble yes okay all right so we have a motion and a second
that It Go on the b list so all in favor of it going on the b list signal by saying I I I I any opposed Mr lontine um I apologize I always forget if I vote no does that mean it I would be voting for a list or if if you vote no you're voting that it should not go on the b list and then it's not just not on any list because we already approved
it to be on some so it just we need another I apologize I know we've done this before but if I vote no on B then that means it's not nothing it's just um I forget if you can remind me again it's it means it doesn't go on the b list and then there would be someone else can offer a motion to go on the a list if it fails then it doesn't go on either list so it's separate motions Derek yeah um okay I I guess I'll vote no no I suppose
thank you okay okay so we have taken a vote um and I believe we have a majority on the property being placed on the b list is that everyone's understanding okay very good that brings us to number two the LEF Corporation okay we'll start out with the a um overall map for the next four applications so you can see the context of these items doing here the
the um and Advance the slide please again again Ashlin okay so the next item for your consideration is the LEF Corporation property 935 acres in size this is a working forest and farmlands application so less than fee um it had scored 16 out of the 19 criteria on the staff review with the minimum required being nine uh potential matching funds this is with within the lake to Lagoon program boundary as well as the rural family land Protection Program um and uh
attributes it it has the uh natural resources management area environmental core overlay and it is within the Florida Wildlife Corridor and this property connects to several other pieces of conservation property correct it certainly does along the uh Eastern and Northern boundaries there is already conserv property okay all right okay questions related to
placing this on a or b list Miss Frasco yeah I have a question is there a map that you could show us where this overlays with the um with the animal um endangered animal yes thank you you got it is there a map that you can show us where this overlays and where actually is within yes the uh map is is in your
binder um under the location map for the cycle applications oh it's in that one ecological Greenway Network labeled on that map is the wildlife Corridor so is it so is it the um 2025 Cycle One applications it would be the other one uh Ash if you can back up one or two slides to the location map and you can also see it on page 55 of your pack to okay everything the Florida ecological Greenway Network priorities 1
and two this is also the Florida Wildlife Corridor so so where on this map on page 55 are we looking at on page 39 shows these properties 55 is the next okay set of Eligibility 35 okay I see it you good Mr RKA yes thank you okay any other
questions okay would someone like to make a motion please to put this on make a motion to move this to the a list I'll second I'm sorry that to go on the a list yes okay motion by Mr Sosa and a second by Mr maaloa to place this property on the a list all in agreement signal by saying I I I any opposed Mr lontine I'm an I thank you okay passes
unanimously for the a list okay next item for your consideration is the Donald and Chelsea harling application this is also a working for us in farmlands application 10 acres in size uh staff scored at 12 out of 19 on the ranking criteria with a minimum required of nine potential matching funds again are lak to Lagoon and Rural family lands Protection Program it is within the natural resources management area as well as a Florida Wildlife
Corridor okay questions comments I moveed to put the Harding property on the a list okay second okay a motion by Mr Crump and a second by Mr gamble that the um Harding property be placed on the a list all in favor signal by saying I I I any opposed Mr L was that an i for the a list I in favor yes very
good unanimous for a list okay next slide please this is the gns Family Trust application also working forest and farmlands 21 acres in size staff scored at 11 out of 19 the minimum required is nine uh potential matching funds are linked to Lagoon and Ral family and protection program and this is within the natural resources man management area Okay questions
comments on the Family Trust property okay would someone like to make a motion I make a motion to move it to the a list okay motion by Mr Sosa to place it on the a list do we have a second second second by Mr gamma all in favor for the a list signal by saying I I I any opposed Mr ltin were you an I on that yes an i okay very
good unanimous to place it on the a list okay okay so we are to the John and Susan Hart Harding property this is also a working force in farmlands application 10 acres in size staff scored out a N9 out of 19 that meets the minimum required uh um uh criteria of nine of 19 potential matching funds are the lake to Lagoon and R and Family Protection Program and this did not have
attributes okay questions or comments on the Harding property a motion to put it on the a or b list please I I have one question okay just um just to go over was this property a one that was in dangered of being built on
I I'm not aware of any conversion of the current land use out there okay okay thank you now quick question this property is all going to tie in with the other almost a th000 Acres so personally it would make sense to put it all together so I'd like to make a motion to move it to the a list I'll second oh go ahead okay a motion by Mr Sosa second by frasa to place this on the a list any discussion on the
motion all in favor of placing the property on the a list signal by saying I I any opposed Mr lontine you are an i for a list yes okay very good motion passes unanimously okay so the next slide is our our eligibility review this is our flowchart here just as a reminder this is your determination of whether the next application fits the program criteria and with that Ash next slide please next slide is the uh Southerland
application this is also a work enforce and farmlands application staff is presorted as meeting 10 out of the 19 criteria the minimum required is nine 52 acres in size um it is within the uh Lake to Lagoon and and Ru and family lands Protection Program eligibility criteria uh there is no adjacent conservation property with that we stand by for any questions okay any questions on the eligibility of
this property comments okay hearing none would someone like to make a motion move we make this property eligible okay motion for eligibility by Mr gamble second second second second by Miss rber so we have a motion and a second to deem this property eligible all in favor signal by saying I I I any
opposed Mr Lan you were in favor yes and I okay very good okay uh with that I'd proceed to staff comments unless there's any objection okay I'll start out with our property updates and the first one I want to bring to your attention mention is um uh you know we we we've we've stated multiple times that this is a uh
kind of a team effort to bring these conservation properties to fruition and uh the first one that I'll I'll I'll give you an update on is the Stewart Property this has been a long protracted process very complex three contracts three llc's three attorneys two closing agents but we are finally there uh so all documents are fully executed and have been um uh returned back to the closing agent so the Deeds are now knowing Q this is also an important piece for the city of Edgewater as we've discussed the canals that exists on this
property after we close now which we are you know at the uh final finish line of the closing process um we are uh working with the city of Edgewater to provide them a an access and maintenance easement easement over uh one of the canals as well as fee simple ownership over a second Canal on this property so they can manage those two canals for storm water purposes to relieve some of flooding on the adjacent property uh that has been experienced by Edgewater citizens we are also in uh
daily communication with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection the northern piece is going to be transferred to the uh uh Florida Department of Environmental Protection fee simple ownership and we are going to be reimbursed 100% of the uh expenditure of Valu forever funds the St John's River Water Management District will manage all of these properties and we've been in regular communication with them on that subject matter so I want to start out with a with a congratulations to the advisory committee this has been
a very um significant conservation piece that is now being added to your inventory okay the next update that I have for you if you recall the picket and Cooper property and I think in the future we we'll probably have to bring up like a master map because I don't uh necessarily want to quiz you on its location but we are in the oost area north of pel Road here um we are now beginning the closing process on that transaction and I have been checking my
phone as we've sat in the meeting here I've got closing documents coming in from the agent today uh so we are now in the final stages on that one our survey is done our phase one is done it's got a clean bill of health it's just a matter of finishing up the paperwork and just dispersing the funds on that one so again another congratulations for another piece that's added to the conservation inventory um The Double Eagle Property this is a a roughly 970 acre uh working force and farmlands application in the very southern tip of Luchia
County um we are uh working with uh the uh Florida Department of Agriculture and consumer services on a partnership on this transaction right now we are working on the final stages of theou this is our memorandum of understanding with fdax Florida Department of Agriculture and consumer services on our financial relationship as we proceed towards closing on this we have an agreement on the um easement language we
uh uh we are uh in partnership with fdax and they have transmitted a an an offer uh on the agricultural easement hasn't been accepted yet but it is um been presented to the owners there so again uh we are significantly Along on that project and hope to complete it very soon um The Carter property this is your large 1300 acre piece off of State Road 415 this is going to have 100% funds from the Florida forever program for its
purchase it has been approved by the governor and cabinet uh I have received a A draft copy of the survey today so that's part of one of those closing stages we take a look at the survey and uh look for any encroachments or any issues as it relates to the title insurance policy um we have no comments from valua County so far this meaning the survey has a clean bill of health so the state has uh given us a tend closing schedule they think early March to get that one across the Finish
Line oh okay and I'll slow down I've just been informed that we we put up the dashboard so you can get your orientation on it and so I'll slow down if you want to take some time to kind of get your bearings on where these properties are located and you can see the connection to Deep
Creek there to the to the Southwest yeah and that will fall under Hunter's perview as soon as it's closed okay no further questions we we'll move on to the next item uh tamoka Marsh uh this is one that we've talked about in the northeast corner of uchia County uh this is one
that again Florida forever program is picking up 100% they've presented an offer to the owners and we're standing by to receive uh communication on whether that offer has been accepted or not so it's at the offer stage with the D taking the lead on that transaction okay next item uh if you recall the Street working for us in farmlands application this is another partnership that we have with the
Florida Department of Agriculture and consumer services this is their Rural and family land Protection Program funds this would be a 50/50 cost split uh all the appraisals are in and fdac has is uh in process of presenting an offer on that property right now uh fourstar Timber I'm going to keep going down my list here fourstar Timber is one of our uh applicants into the uh Regional conservation partnership program this is the lake to Lagoon a federal funding program that we have uh
there has been a site visit on that property um and we continue the workshop the um uh Lake to Lagoon just to keep you all up to speed the lake to Lagoon project is one that um we are currently monitoring some of the executive orders coming out of Washington because they are impacting federal funds here so there's close observation of whether those executive orders are going to um have any effect on the lake to Lagoon uh program right now there's nothing clear we'll return with an update when there's more clarity on on that late to Lagoon Pro
program but um we are proceeding as if um everything is 100% ago uh the next one I'll go to is our carway Lakes application and this is uh kind of in the north central part of the county there I'm not sure if anybody's still on that one but um so this is also within our uh uh Regional conservation partnership program we've had a visit with the natural resources
conservation service onto the property here again it's kind of in that same status as the previous we're not aware of anything that's going to impede it it's its closure but um we are proceeding as if everything is um uh 100% ago we do have backup plans on this one too um it would it also received an application under the rural and family lands Protection Program so if there was an issue with the federal program we could pivot to our state Partnerships there and incomplete the transaction as well as a third option it's within a Florida forever project boundary so our
third option if those two failed we could go to the Florida forever staff and discuss a standard conservation easement with them and if it was acceptable to the landowner we could proceed with uh our state Florida forever funds on that one um I mentioned that uh Rural and family as Protection Program uh and carow carway lakes has been submitted we had three applications from this program program that went into that rur family Lance Protection Program the other two are the Bennett Road and Henry Enterprises
applications so those applications have been submitted the uh fdax program is now going to go through a their own internal ranking process on applications we stay in regular communication with them and part of my job is to try to make sure that the valua forever programs rise to the top and so um we'll do the same on these three applications there once the programs once the applications are ranked I'll start communicating with their staff and let them know that we're ready to go as a partner to try to complete these
transactions uh the McMillan property is the next one I'll bring to your attention so we have um been finalizing the easement terms this is a work in force and fance application we have been finalizing the easement terms on that project they've been transmitted to the owner's attorney we we we await uh in affirmative that the all the changes are acceptable and once that we have that we are going to prepare an item for the County Council uh consideration for acquisition on that do you have the size
of that one in front of you that was a large one was that 500 and it it is would you I'm not sure who's in control of it would you mind bringing that one up McMillan oh that one's tough for me to read 212 okay 212 on that one so if you scroll out a little bit Ashen so I just want to say this is a
testament to Doug Weaver and his team and our team continuing to find a way um you know protecting Lake Ashby these are conservation easements up the east and west side of 415 um and this is another addition as I said many times to this committee large land owners talk and when you got one next to other large land owners coming into the program that means we've done a pretty dang good job so the next update that I have for you
is the wisuki property this is also another agricultural easement uh we have Mr wisnoski coming in to discuss easement terms later this month and I'm catch a Nick off guard but we're going to take a look at the calendars for the 21st that was his request then we'll sit down with Mr wisuki uh work out those easement terms and then make an offer on that agricultural easement property UHA 44 this is another one that's been moving through the committee there's an
offer presented on that property we're waiting the uh land owners response to Moka Farms Road uh we are underway on our appraisals right now uh I actually have the first draft appraisal in waiting on the second um when they are in and reviewed will kind of huddle up as a team here and compose an offer and return back to the land own land owners for uh for that project that is a fee simple acquisition it is in uh the eastern central part of Luchia County if you don't
recall uh and again fee simple applica application uh Lake George in Holdings there has been an offer uh made from the St John's River Water Management District to the owners on that we still await their their reply um the uh offer has been extended to allow the family to have additional discussion on the on the item and uh the last update that I have for you is that Cypress Ranch property um we are ordering title on that one that is uh southeast of the triple t uh
over in the oin area and I've given you a light update on the rcpp um that's the other update that I'd have for you we are in a learning and listening mode right now trying to understand how some of these executive orders could affect the cash flow that moves into these Federal programs here and then we're also trying to make sure that we have backup plans for any of these projects that have been cycling through just in case there are impediments to that program and that's the extent of my updates for today Tim
like the update the volution conservation Corridor conservation Corridor that's the other update that I had for you so we continue work on the expansion of the volution conservation Corridor uh the latest is we have gone through U if you recall Mike Richards or GIS analyst he he produced a pretty spectacular white paper identify identifying some first and second level priority areas for expans uh we've taken that work and even though Mike's deployed we've continued it here with our other GIS staff uh recently
we've gone through and identified those expansion areas identified the parcels come up with some criteria for review and that criteria is um uh you know first and second uh uh priority uh project size and whether it's been uh under any level of development in the past um so we're going to compose that list our next stage is to do some initial coordination with the Florida forever staff the acquisition restoration Council team that will be ultimately pret presenting the request
for expansion to we're going to coordinate with them on the um uh willingness and of owners to be included and this is you know an important step kind of mirrors our our language changes to the resolution here it's important at the state level that people that um are included in these Florida forever expansion areas want their property to be shown in there so our next stage is to take those proposed expans areas and coordinate with the state on how they recommend we conduct that Outreach and Tim I'll add you know the state's
process is separate from our process you know once we propose to the state it gets reviewed by the acquisition and restoration Council they have their own public input process then it is reviewed by the AR committee again and then they will have a final approval process to add it as a project boundary area so this is not going to be a quick process this is going to be a lengthy ongoing process okay this will be a uh State
process yeah the Carter piece um as you recall took a year and a half to to get through that state process so just be prepared it might be a similar timeline yeah but yeah I was going to say with that being said that uh the arc committee came out this week with their their changes so the the the new properties that who that have went through that 18 month process um and we have three I believe on there so um we
have Lake Harney now which will go to the cabinet for approval and it will be part of the 2526 work plan which is the 5,000 acre piece um we also applied for a 20 million doll resilient Florida Grant to be the partner for us on that acquisition so we're working multiple pathways on each each of the projects um the the tamoka March the Ford tamoka Marsh piece went through that 18-month process and it's now on the state's list to be able to be purchased and then there was one last piece guys you
remember what it was um no it was Carter was already on it because they bought it there one more I think it's a smaller piece but it's um so we're excited that process you know we said at the very beginning it was the 18mon process lots of people questioned us like we we know what the process is now we we typically will apply in October and then 18 months later we'll get get on the list that doesn't mean we're not working deals with them in between but um that's
really what it takes in terms of getting it on that list lots of meetings lots of paperwork so kudos to these guys for putting in the work I appreciate it and it positions us really well in the future yeah good job on the persistence to keep pushing these and it sounds like there's a lot of things that are going to be happening shortly here so that at the April meeting you'll probably have quite a bit more good news so that's great just one more thing that want you
to hear from us it's no surprises is my rule it looks like based on what you have said Wanda we've started conversations with our CFO that it may be time to bond some money um so I just don't want you to see that maybe if it comes up here between our next meeting um but that's a real potential as we kind of align deals and look at our strategic plan for next year and the following year in terms of Acquisitions knowing that we've got to get this USDA money spent within 5 years um so just
just want you to hear it from us rather than see it in the newspaper or listen out the council okay appreciate that yeah okay anyone have any questions on any of this comments okay Madam chair I've handed out the resolution to everyone with the changes so the they'll have writing on the top of the the paper it says you
know 2725 markup the I think all of the red lines were accepted until page 14 if I remember correctly and Jessica has handwritten the changes that we've um the committee accepted Pages 12 and 13 12 and 13 12 and 13 so everything other than the changes on pages 12 and 13 um we reviewed and accepted so now it's
a matter of including page 12 and 13 unless if there's any objections I'm sorry I was just going to saying there was one typo on 14 just to so that's noted to in there so I one more I think typo on 14 look up uh the sixth line down the advisory committee May proceed immediately to the ranking process correct yeah typo typo
so uh I would suggest we change that to process okay anything else all right then we are ready for a motion to accept the resolution changes as
presented so moved okay I'll second okay motion by Mr gamble a second by Mr maaloa to accept the changes for the resolution as is on our final um paperwork here any questions discussion okay all in favor signal by saying I I I any opposed okay
Mr I'm not sure if yeah I'm not sure if I'm allowed to obain I just again what I'm visually seeing it doesn't appear so I'm not sure if I have the same changes so I just wanted to do my due diligence um if I can't abstain then I'll just vote know for now so ashin did you get a copy of it via email from Sonia I did yes and I immediately emailed it to Derek so it's in your email box buddy oh okay well I mean yeah I mean I'll have to check it just a minute here then but
um I mean I didn't want to miss something so again I'm sorry for the uh not being able to review it yet but um if I have to vote then I vote to abstain if that's possible suban slack assistant County attorney uh technically you cannot abstain you have to either vote Yes or no uh if you are present at a meeting and you are technically present at the meeting so you either have to votee yes or no okay I'll vote no then thank
you okay so we have a unanimous vote to accept the CH no he voted no oh I'm sorry I'm sorry I thought he said he was Voting yes okay so we have a majority vote um to accept the uh changes to the resolution as presented okay very good very good all right um anything else from staff no ma'am okay I I have one quick
question um at our last meeting we talked about the possibility of needing another meeting in late February do we still need a late meeting in February or do we just solve that we do not need a late February meeting thank you anyone else okay um Committee Member comments no okay Mr faska I I would just
like to say um thank you for allowing me to have my first um term here and I'm looking forward to my second term thank you Mr K yeah I just want to uh say thank you for allowing me to have my last term here uh I want to thank Barb councilwoman Barb gertman for initially appointing me to this committee and then um councilman Dom Dempsey for reappointing me and I've enjoyed serving
here and I've enjoyed meeting everybody and in learning and hearing and and engaging so thank you for the opportunity it's been good to have you hope we see you again down the road I just want to say I look forward to another exciting term yeah we've got I think a lot of good stuff coming and uh a lot of hard work that's already been done that's now coming to fruition so good job to everybody okay any other questions
comments yeah I also want to thank the staff and everyone for their hard work um if you can hear me okay I yeah I can I appreciate all the work you put in and all the the the putting together of all the information it is helpful and um again I apologize uh for um not being able to be there in person today but uh yeah don't want to get anyone um sick uh but anyway in the future u i I was wondering if this if if it's needed by some member I I just want to comment
that the the the way I'm joining today um did not seem to be as easy uh as maybe some other ways I actually tried to look at the the YouTube channel and that looked actually a lot more clearer than the I guess the the method I'm on now um so I'm just wondering maybe I can talk to staff offline about just some suggestions on um ways to because I could not visibly read anything that was being presented on the slides uh I'm not quite sure why that was uh but yeah just
a suggestion um again in case anyone ever has to to join that way or the public tries to join that way it um should be um more clear uh just so want to make that suggestion thank you okay anyone else all right then thank you to everyone um as always thank you to the staff you give us a tremendous amount of information and it's good information and it's appreciated so um thank you for
all your hard work all of you and if there is nothing else I believe we are adjourned you
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