Good evening everyone. I'd like to call this meeting to order. Welcome to the board's count committee meeting of September 8th, 2025. Please rise and join me in a salute to the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. May we have a roll call, please. >> Mr. Rabbits >> here, >> Mr. Here >> this meeting is being held in accordance with the requirements of the open public meetings act. Do notice this meeting has
been published by the clerk and both the courier post and inquire newspapers as well as electronic notice as required by law. Also, a copy of the annual meeting notice has been posted on the bulletin board outside the township clerk's office. >> Thank you. The first matter this evening is the second reading of an ordinance,
ordinance 13-25 amending chapter 102 titled sale of naming rights to township own property. This is the second reading of an ordinance. So, if anyone from the public has a comment on this ordinance, please come forward. >> Seeing no one move to close public
portion. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I opposed. >> That public portion is closed. Is there a motion? >> Motion. >> Second. >> I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none. May we have a roll call vote, please? >> Mr. Ritz. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. Mayor Ben.
>> Yes. So carried. Next matter is the first reading of ordinance 1425 of the township of Borhees amending chapter 152 zoning districts to add section 152.191 to 152.195
entitled affordable housing district 3 AH3 of the revised general ordinance of the township of Warhees. Do I have a motion on the first reading of that ordinance? >> Motion >> second. >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none of those in favor, please signify by saying I. I
>> I opposed. So carried. Our next matter is the first reading of ordinance 1525 of the township of Vorhees to implement the township's third round housing plan element and fair share plan consistent terms of a settlement agreement reached between the township of Vorhees and the
fair share housing center regarding compliance with the township's third round affordable housing obligations in accordance with inray NJAC 596 and 597 221 NJ1 2015 15, the New Jersey
Fair Share, the New Jersey Fair Housing Act and relevant regulations and policies adopted by the New Jersey Council on Affordable Housing. Do I have a motion on the first reading of that ordinance? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor, please
signify by saying I. I. >> I. Opposed? So carried. Our next section is our public portion for our resolutions only. If anyone from the public has any comments on any of our resolutions on the agenda, please come forward.
>> See no one to close public portion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I opposed. The public portion for resolutions is closed. Our resolutions this evening, a resolution 269-25, memorializing an executive session from the meeting of August 11th, 2025.
Resolution 270-25, amending certain records of the tax collector, refunds. Resolution number 271-25, amending certain records of the tax assessor deductions. Resolution 272-25 authorizing support of the application
for the Camman County Recreation Facility Enhancement Grant $25,000 Connelly Park Storm Water Control Resolution 273-25 authorizing support of the application for the Cameron County Recreation Facility Enhancement Grant, $25,000 for
the Connelly Park ADA access grant. Resolution number 274-25 authorizing the award of of an a mandatory contract to Lexa Concrete LLC for the pedestrian and bike lane improvements for access to the Patco
station in the amount of $57,840. Resolution number 275-25 authorizing the award of a contract through the Omnia Partners Cooperative Pricing System for the purchase of replacement cameras in the Borheis Township Police Department from EAW
Security. Resolution 276-25 approving a treatment works application for WAWA block 220 lots 9 and 16 number 277-25 authorizing the acceptance of a performance guarantee for FPS rink LP
block 161 lot 23 resolution 278-25 authorizing the acceptance of a performance guarantee for virtual health inc lot 202.26 26 lot 14 resolution 279-25 authorizing the acceptance of a
performance guarantee for the village at Vorhees Pool block 150.03 lots 2 4 4.01 5 and six resolution number 280-25 authorizing the release of a performance guarantee and accepting a maintenance
guarantee for Ryder Club at Vorhees block 222 lot 6.08 08 resolution number 281-25 accepting the resignation of police officer Wyan Bolazos from the Vorhees Township Police Department. Number 282-25
rescending the offer of employment to John Senic from the Vorhees Township Fire Department. Number 283-25 rescending the offer of employment to Zuriel Palano from the Vorhees Township Fire Department. Resolution 284-25
appointing Nichollet Plesac to the position of part-time emergency medical technician in the Murice Township Fire Department. Resolution 285-25 appointing Amber Misola to the position of assistant personnel technician in the
Maurice Township Department of Administration. Resolution 286-25 appointing Sariah Gallagher to the position of clerk 3 in in the township zoning department. Resolution 287-25
appointing Petro Rafo to the position of school traffic guard in the Voy Township Police Department. Resolution 288-25 authorizing the reappointment of special officers in the Voy Township Police Department number 289-25
appointing EB employee solutions CDBA the difference card to provide HA services. Do I have a motion for approval of those resolutions? >> Motion second. >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none. Those in favor please signify by saying I.
>> I opposed. So carry there's no need for an executive session this evening. Next is approval of our registers report for April of 2025. Our reg registers report for May 2025. For June 2025, our tax collector's
report for July 2025. Our treasures report for July 2025 and our bills for July 14th 2025. Do I have a motion for approval of those? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Motion and a second. Any discussion? Hearing none of those in favor, please
signify by saying I. >> I opposed. So carried. Uh, next is comments from our committee. I would just like to remind everybody that our Vorhees food truck and music festival will be this Saturday the September 13th from 11 to 7:00 p.m. 11:00 a.m. to 7:00
p.m. at Connelly Park. 18 food trucks, live bands, a petting zoo, uh a beer and margarita garden, and our Borhees Animal Orphanage will be holding their 29th annual Wolfstock Festival on September 27th from 11:00 a.m. to 400 p.m. here at
the town center. Any comments from any of our other committee members this evening? >> U Mr. I would just like to thank everybody who came on Saturday for the grand of the beginning of the season to celebrate the beginning of the season to literally kick off the beginning of the season for the Worhe Soccer Association.
And I also wanted to wish well our HR director Kathy who's going to be retiring soon. I want to thank you for all the years that you put into um Warheis Township and all of the um personnel dynamics that you've dealt
with. So thank you and we wish you all the best. >> Yes. Thank you, Cath. Thank you very much, Kathy. You've done a wonderful job. We're going to miss you. >> Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Kathy, for uh your service to our town. And I just want to um say Thursday's uh
September 11th. I believe it's a 24th anniversary. And um on behalf of township committee um we we thank we remember all the first resp first first responders and uh
people civilians that passed away that day and we thank our own first responders for their daily work they do every day to keep our families safe. >> Absolutely. Uh our final portion is our public portion. If anyone from the
public has any comments, please come forward. >> Thank you, Mayor Mike. >> Good evening. How are you? >> Good to see you. >> It's been about 10 years. >> Been a while. >> Yes. How are you? And I've not yet had the pleasure to meet any of the other members of township committee. Nice to meet you. >> If you could just state your name and
address for the record. >> Sure. Thank you. >> My name is Ed Keller. K E L L E H E R. I reside at 1128 Gibbsboro Road, Vorhees, Kirkwood.
I have a question. Um maybe a quick show of hands. Uh members of the committee, are you acquainted with a development ongoing now for the carriage house project on
Gibbsboro Road? Yes. No. Maybe. >> I I certainly acquainted with it. Yeah. I believe it's coming before the the planning board >> on the 24th. >> 24th. The 24th's cancelled just so everybody knows because Jewish holiday ends.
Jewish holiday ends at 6:36 I think is sundown technically by the calendar and we felt it was cutting it too close. It's Russia. >> Some people had expressed some concerns about the fact that being held uh close to the Jewish holidays. Understood.
>> When is it being scheduled? >> What >> when is it being? >> Don't know yet. >> Well, this is not the first cancellation. >> I know. I've only been a >> We could just have one one at a time, please. >> Sure.
>> No, no, you I was saying for you if you're talking. >> We canceled the meeting because of a holiday like we would do for anyone else's holiday. And with all due respect to everybody, I'm Jewish. It's my holiday. I would not go into the meeting. Well, actually, I can't even vote on it because I'm your neighbor and
my house is the closest, I think, to anyone's pretty much or pretty close. So, um, it's out of courtesy for the public and for members of the committee that celebrate Rashashana, which is essentially like Christmas. It's the
holiest day. It it it's being cancelled for that and for no other reason. >> I respect that. and it will be rescheduled, but that is up to the chairman of the planning board and the secretary of the planning board and the
um uh solicitor of the planning board >> and we can find that out. We can find that out and >> sorry for getting upset by that's >> we can find out the completely acceptable >> in the next day or two and >> non non-issue. Okay. >> Yeah. Uh I do have
serious questions, problems really about what I've come to learn and really only in the last few weeks or so uh about the particulars of that project on a lot that's 10 acres. They're going
to build within three acres um what I would think is a monstrosity, a 77 unit apartment complex,
50 ft high. There are lots of things that concern me. First of all, another 100 cars on a very busy but basically uh two-lane road. There are no lights
from White Horse Road all the way down to Gibsbro. The traffic we talk about issues like safety. Uh my next door neighbor has two grammar school age kids
ride a bike directly across the street. uh neighbor has two more grammar school age kids active ride the bikes. Um Kirkwood,
maybe some of you aren't particularly familiar. I respect that you >> I I'm not allowed to say anything about it because I'm conflicted out of this because I've been solicited by my HOA and I
>> understood I can't My silence is because >> legally legally he has to stay quiet. >> Okay. >> So, uh then >> I'm a big mouth but legally hypothetically let's say he stood up here and said I don't like it or I'm a favorite and it could be deemed because he's at a conflict deemed that he's influencing
>> accept and respect that. Thank you. Uh so I would guess then you might be in Carriage Farm. >> Yeah. I'm behind on the house behind the lake. Ah. >> Um, which is interesting to look at
these days. >> Yes. >> So, >> okay. >> Um, I'm the house right behind you. >> Um, personally, I think it's hideous and, uh, I'm offended that, um, talk about conflicts.
the person who bought that property. Anybody here know the carriage house restaurant on Gibbs Road over the years? Couple generations, lovely family. Um got to a point where they needed to
uh improve some of their u equipment, you know, to stay up to date. Uh agewise, uh the decision was made that they would sell the property. It was listed at a given price. I don't know it. Wouldn't say it if I did. Um
early on a couple expressed interest and it went pretty far. Uh unfortunately at the very end there was a disappointment. Deal didn't go through. Another one presented itself. Unfortunately that did not go through.
The property was ultimately sold substantially below the listing price and the asking price and um the couple second generation lovely family. Uh that carriage house
has been a staple of the I'm 47 years in Vorhees and I've been had been going to it up until the point it was sold and meant a lot to the community. I mean it really was a staple of the community. Long-term postal delivery person
retires, everybody comes out and there's a fair. They would have different gatherings for different reasons over time. and uh one of the reasons I think they let it go is that uh h
just tired and so the property was sold. What did the one of the reasons was that that person was probably possibly anyhow going to uh do some reinvestment in it improvements,
bring it back online as perhaps a little Italian beastro or or even an Indian restaurant. Well, what did happen to it? Uh basically nothing. No nothing.
lawns, the grass out front weren't even mowed. There was no money put into it whatsoever. Although the property owner did manage to um gain funds by um you also may know
that the property property on the the properties along the lake, mine being one uh had been remediated under the the Sherwood Williams uh activities.
So the heavy equipment for two seasons were parked there. Maybe you saw it driving by. That was the only activity. It got so bad that uh the person who did acquire it um had it
declared a redevelopment property. That's the last I had heard up until a few weeks ago. I didn't know how far this had advanced. So traffic safety eyesore the you know someone will
benefit from the development and every other person in and around Kirkwood uh our values will be diminished. There are other extenduating circumstances. Again, all of you, maybe none of you,
but there is an active American bald eagle nest within a rock's throw of that property. So, bald eagles are no longer um threatened. Well, no, they are
threatened. They downgraded it from >> protected. That's going to have an impact. >> Yeah. So uh actually we were made aware of uh the bald eagle at our last committee meeting. So since then I've actually reached out by direction of the
merit committee to reach out to D make them aware of what was going on. They've re they informed me that they do know what is happening with the American bald eagle and that nest being there. Um and it is something that they are in so many words saying that they're on top of and
they are well aware due to this this uh development happening as well. So, the township's already notified D as well. Um, what I can do as well, just listen to your concerns, I obviously can't interfere, we can't interfere, right, for with the planning vote, but I can let um the planning board secretary know
that residents did come out not in favor of this and these were their comments and it's a public record, >> you know, and and we can we can share that with the board as well. Although I would as a member as someone who's been on the planning board for a long time and someone who's also in my private life testified
at hearings many of times for and against things I would this board has no perview over the planning board. >> So I would just come to the planning board meeting when it happens because this board really can't
>> I don't even know the transfer of information is okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I I would certainly make that recommendation as well from a legal perspective. >> From a legal perspective, I would make that same recommendation is that we have your comments on record here, but the ultimate decision-m is going to be made by the planning board. >> Absolutely.
>> So, I would encourage you all to to attend that meeting and let your voices >> we will be there. >> I'm sure I'm sure you will. And we and in terms of the >> one I'm sorry, we have to do one at a time just for the sake of the record >> to come up. But but I can assure you we'll provide adequate notice in advance of that meeting as well to ease your
schedule and >> cons. Um there's one other issue talking about the delicacy around some of these as I learned about some of the history recent history and what some of the
issues are and I've got my own as I said uh as I just looked into a couple of few things uh one of the things I've learned is the identity the of the owner of the property.
The owner of the property is also a builder and developer and uh the owner of the property is the vice chair of planning committee.
Uh I think I don't know where to start or stop. the rest of it would be something I can present and I thank you all for being gracious and allowing me the opportunity to make comment at this time. But >> sure, >> there's lots and lots of issues that
things an abomination should never happen. Thank you. >> Thank you, Ed. >> Thanks, Mike. >> You're welcome. [Applause] I just have a few concerns and I >> name and address.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Um, Rosanna Mosson. I live on 1224 Gibsboro, Kirkwood Road. Um, anything else you need I need to say about >> Nope, that's it. Just whatever your comments. >> Um, concerns about the carriage house property and the proposed building site
and uh, we received a letter. Well, we got a copy of the letter. we weren't in 200 within 200 feet of the request to waiver an environmental impact study and I believe that is unfair to the community and to us as individuals. If Sharon Williams has to go through and
jump through hoops to get a permit because of the eagle's nest or whatever else they have to get, so should this project that's being uh proposed in every respect do the same. If we the residents have to follow protocol and jump through hoops in the township just
to put up a shed because we want to be in code. So should this project be held by the same standard. Um all the disruption could cause the eagles to leave the nest. I know this won't be in conjunction with the cleaning up of Kirkwood Lake, but if you
have Kirkwood Lake being cleaned up and then we have this disruption, you know, it could make the Eagles leave. Um, another concern was uh runoff. If the runoff ponds if the holding ponds are not big enough because the property is
small um the all the runoff will flow into the little lake behind the property which will in turn flow over the dam and under the road there is a pipe that will go into Kirkwood Lake. Um, the runoff
going into Kirkwood Lake will be polluted from the parking lot, which we do not need to enter Kirkwood Lake as we get it cleaned up from the paintworks. Um, plus this little dam may not hold. It's been repaired, but I don't think it
was a great job. I don't know for certain. and the road underneath the pipe underneath the road might be not large enough to hold the runoff if in the event of heavy storms. So that's a concern and if that happens our road will be flooded. Also the extra traffic
on the road uh as we was discussed by Ed uh is ridiculous as it is now because it's a thorough affair to get from Vorhees to Gibsboro to the other side of Vorhees. Um, and there's no buffer for
parked cars. I know this is all planning board, but thank you for listening to me. Um, um, and there should be there should be a buffer for the cars, and that's not in code. Um, so that's the traffic
problems. Um, also the housing proposed is far too dense for the area around it. It doesn't fit the neighborhood and will cause problems as mentioned. Um something less dense can be built, less apartments maybe, um smaller amount of
people because you figure 77 units. How many cars could that be? If there's two senior living and the wife and the husband have cars, so you have a a bunch of cars over a hundred. Um so anyway, something that conforms to the neighborhood would be better. We're
not opposed to building, just not high density. If you recall when uh some of you may not but when uh Carriagebrook was built originally was proposed to be highdensity housing and again Kirkwood residents came out and asked for
something less dense. Um Kirkwood although it is unincorporated is a generational town as many as five generations in some families have called Kirkwood their home. We enjoy living in a place that has rich history and
hometown feel. Even though we're part of Vorhees, our little town feels like home and we would like it to keep that keep it that way. Please see us. Please hear us. Thank you.
[Applause] Hi, good evening. Um, my name is Mimi Hadti and I live at 2211 Sander Road of Vorhees, New Jersey and I'm the secretary for the Vorhees Gibbsboro Lions Club and I just wanted to
introduce our organization to you just to let you know some of the projects that we're working on. I also have um Rope Chakravarti with me um who is our marketing chairperson who's with us too. And um just to let you know over the past maybe a little over a year we've
been active um we've been doing some service projects in the area. Um we've been partnering with Hope Food Pantry and also Cathedral Kitchen to provide some meals to those in need. We've also been um doing vision we've started doing vision screenings um for local kids to
detect vision problems early and get them referred out to specialists when needed. We also collect used glasses um that are donated to those in need as well. We have some pickup areas um in the town with the lion's name on it. Um
you know, if anybody wants to donate to that cause, um we also have our our email at the bottom of the flyer. If anybody wants to coordinate a pickup of glasses to donate, you can reach us that way, too. We've also been uh providing some free community lectures in the
Vorhees library for health and wellness and self-improvement. Um last fall we had a physician who gave us a talk on sleep apnnea and diabetes in the Vorhees library for free. Um in the spring and March we had a physician who did a
lecture for colon cancer awareness. And in the summer also in the library for free to the community we did some empowerment lectures. We did a lecture on how to empower yourself in the workplace with a speaker by the name of Maria Grant who was she's also a
business coach and we also did a finance lecture in August on how to empower yourself financially. Um we've been supporting some local businesses too through uh dine and donate events with them with them also. And we do have some flyers around in
case you guys wanted to check out what events we have coming up. But this Wednesday, we're doing a dine and donate at the Coriander restaurant in Borhees. Um the Lions Club members will be there at 7. If anybody's free and wants to come and meet the Lions members in person, you can. Um if you can't make it
at 7:00, if you go anytime during the day on Wednesday and order food and mention the Lion's name, then a portion of the proceeds will go to the Lions Club to help support some of the projects that we do in the area. Um, we also have a domestic violence walk
taking place on Sunday, September 28th at the Saddle Hill Winery. Um, and there's going to be a brunch afterwards. So, if anybody wants to participate in that, um, you know, feel free to. Again, our our emails at the bottom of the flyer. It's Vorhees Gibbsboro Lions Clubgmail.com.
We have, um, some other projects that we're working on, too. Um, you know, we'll be we will be at the fall festival that Vorhees is having um on the 18th. Um, we're actually partnering with the Henfield Lens Club on October 4th for a
5K run for site, but that's actually being held um in Henfield, but because we're helping them with it, we just want to let you guys know if you want to participate in that, um, you're welcome to do that, too. And we'll also be at the high the Eastern High School on October 11th when they have their
cultural event. Um, and we don't have like the schedule printed out yet for the rest of the year, but just to let you know, we are doing the pancake breakfast um, with Santa on December 6, Saturday, that's being held in the Lions Lake Banquet Hall. So, we'll be getting
some, you know, promotional materials out for that as we get closer to then. So, thank you so much for your time. And if there's anything that we can do to help the township, too, we just wanted to let you know we're available that you can call on us. If you have any service projects that you're looking to do and
you need some volunteers to help you with it, um, reach out to us through the email here, the Borhees Gibbs Alliance Club at Gmail, and just let us know and we'll work with you to get some volunteers um, to help you guys if you have projects. Um, do you have any projects coming up that you can think of
that you guys need some help with? >> Well, well, first of all, let me thank you uh for everything that you guys are doing. It's been it's only been a year that you've been in existence and you have really um taken off. Uh I was honored to to attend your your oneyear
anniversary dinner a couple weeks ago. >> Thank you for coming to that. >> My pleasure. uh got to meet a lot of not only Rotarians from Vorhees and Gibbs but from Camden County and South Jersey area. Uh I'm going to make every effort to come to the uh to the event at Saddle
Hill, the domestic violence event. Uh I was invited to that. Um and you know that if you let me know and let us know about your events coming up, we will do our best to help share it through social media, uh through my column every week
and those kind of things. But um um we appreciate everything that you guys are doing and you're going to continue to to do good things. >> Oh, thank you. Yeah, we'll be in touch with future events, but thanks so much for the time. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Any other comments at this point?
[Applause] Hi, I'm Kathy Elely. I live on 1200 Gizboro Road in Kirkwood. Um, I've lived there my whole entire life in the same house. Uh, besides the bald eagles, I have seen the young eagles. In July of
2022, there was a golden eagle in my backyard watching a bald eagle eat a carp from the lake. and he decided he wanted that carp instead of the bald eagle. So the golden eagle went out but the the bald eagle the golden eagle went
out but the bald eagle went and got some backup and the golden eagle lost. Uh besides the eagles we have blue harmans, cranes, egrets, swans. Um I live at the point of Burton Road and Gibsboro Road where the blinking light is. Many
accidents. I have kept records over the years of cars hitting my house, my neighbor's house. Um there's I don't want to bash the police, but the police are never in Kirkwood. Never. There
could be speeders. I've called up the township and I've talked to the police and they say, "Kirkwood never gives us any problems." And I said, "The reason we don't give you any problems is because you're never there. There's there's cars that go up and down that road all night, all times speeding. And
when my kids were little, I was told I Bob Pulcowski, I know nobody remembers Bob Hulcowski here, but he was the one that helped me get the blinking light at Burnt Mill Road. He told me that there had to be a fatality. At that time, I
had four young kids. My kids was not going to be one of the ones. So I went around with the politician and lo and behold, he got the intersection lit up and the blinking light in. Now with more traffic coming down this road, nobody
stops at the at the late on Burton Road. Nobody stops at the stop sign on Pine Avenue, which in turn I hear all times of the day screeching cars. Like I said, I've had a car hit my house. We've had
over 40 accidents and I stopped counting because what's the sense? I'm just concerned about the traffic. I want Kirkwood to be old Kirkwood again. This is it's too commercialized. Echelon Mall and the houses up there was
supposed to be a community in itself. They weren't supposed to reach out to our schools, our fire departments. It was supposed to be a community in itself. Well, it has gotten into our schools and into our community and
Kirkwood people, the diehard. I've I'm 76 years old. When you lived in Kirkwood, you live in Kirkwood. And no, you're a Kirkwood person. And if you're a Kirkwood person, you know what? I know people back there that's I was born and raised with. When you're Kirkwood,
you're Kirkwood. There's no taking Kirkwood out of the person. And I I just want my kids were raised there. My kids went to Eastern. I just want Kirkwood to be safe, happy, and we don't need all
this riff raff of a se whatever it is building in a empty lot and it's going to look like crap. It doesn't fit in with the area. It doesn't fit in with anything. Put it someplace else. And if you see the places going in down to
Gibbsboro, those houses are right on Clement Road. You walk out their door and they're right on the road. I that Gibsboro is not historical anymore. It's gone to the dumps. But I want people to realize that Kirkwood is something in
this township. We are somebody. >> I agree with you 100%. >> I know. I My son used to cut your grass. I remember love Kirkwood. Lived in Kirkwood many, many years. You're right. It's a community within a community.
>> And where your houses were, that was all farmland. >> I I know. I know. >> They forgot to put a sidewalk in on one side of our street, though. >> Huh. >> Uh >> there's no sidewalk on the other side of Fish. No, Fish Street. >> Fish Street. Whoever built that. That's way before my time. >> Well, that was good because I didn't
have to shovel it. So, I was >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But every dog comes on the one side of the street and people walk on the one side of the street and now the scar bro didn't put anything on the bottom. So the sidewalks are coming up and down and >> as we said earlier obviously your concerns about the the proposed project
are for the >> and the traffic the traffic is unreal. >> Your concerns about about traffic present traffic in Kirkwood obviously the chief is here and we can certainly uh we can certainly increase whatever presence we need to do in Kirkwood. I I know exactly what you're talking about.
The stop signs there. Uh um there's there's a a number of them and some people stop, some people don't. Obviously, I'm well aware of the blinking light there. >> Well, before the blinking light, there was nothing. It was dark. It looked like a dead end street. And Bob Cakus had
told me when an accident happens, call me. And we said, "You're going to get a call at 2 o'clock in the morning." Well, he did. And his wife said, "Do you realize it's 2 o'clock in the morning?" And my husband said, "Yes." Bob came out. He came out and saw how dangerous
it was. And thank God for him, the accidents have slowed down, but the traffic out there. People are on the phones, they're drunk that they don't pay any attention. And I don't want another car to come through my house. >> I agree. Unfortunately, that problem is
not unique to Kirkwood. >> Oh, I know. But it's other places. But when you're living there, then >> No. Yeah, I agree. I understand 100%. and and the chief certainly can can increase the presence there. Um he can certainly if you'd like to have uh have some representatives of our department
speak with you directly um and and answer whatever questions you might have. But that's something we can certainly do. >> But we the Kirkwood people take pride in their town. >> We really do. It's not Kirkwood is separate from all the other Horhees
people for some reason. We're just we're Hicks. That's what it is. [Applause] Well, I'm not going to call Kirkwood people Hicks, but >> but certainly I I understand your
sentiment. Um, any other comments this evening uh from anybody? >> No, street. >> Sure. Yes. >> Can I stay here? >> Uh, we really need you. It's hard to hear. >> If you want to be on the record, we need you up here. >> Oh, I don't have to be on the record. I'm just concerned about the lights.
>> You got it. >> Yeah, you just have to You really You really need the Yeah. >> All right. >> Sorry. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> My name is Erling Ross and I live on Dunh Hill Drive, boys. And I'm just concerned about >> I live there, too. >> You did? I did. >> On Lucas Lane,
>> it's always dark and I I know it it was even before they did the um construction the um you know, like putting in new paves and all that. That street is dark almost. You're talking about the street lights. >> The street electric that's a uh that's that's a utility issue. We can certainly
reach out to Is it Atlantic City Electric or PSJ? >> Atlantic City. >> We can certainly reach out to them and get that fixed. >> Okay, that's what I wanted to say. Thank you. >> No problem. >> And just so everybody knows for the planning board meeting the we have a
town we have a planning board engineer that does review letters. It's all public information. Sometimes it gets done because it's so extensive. Uh it might not be ready till a day before, a
couple days before, but that has um traffic in the in it. Usually the applicant has a traffic engineer, too. And I'm only talking procedural. >> And this is just general, not >> I'm talking procedural here because people mentioned stuff about traffic.
Traffic's a tricky thing. I'm not an attorney, but um uh it's a tricky thing in New Jersey law because of case law in New Jersey. Um the other thing is I think the HOA might have retained a
professional. >> Um >> no, he just thought I would just I would just I would just be mindful of >> too much into it just because of your conflict. So, K, can I ask you a question? >> Sure. >> What can we have maybe a point person
from Kirkwood give their information to Stephen and then when we know it's going to be when when it comes on the agenda, maybe he can reach out to them so they know when the meeting is so they're not >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Go ahead. We'll let you know. We'll let you know directly >> as soon as as soon as it gets scheduled. >> As soon as we as soon as we find out
from the plane board when it's rescheduled. >> Don't Don't leave without getting my card. and I can hand out my card to everybody here as well, but I'll I'll touch base with you. >> And the the gentleman that is the Eagle Watcher, if I'm saying that right, >> for I guess like South Jersey,
>> he he testified at our last hearing with another gentleman. Now, I can tell you because it's public information, the other gentleman, not the Eagle Watcher, did show up at the planning board meeting,
I think two times ago or last. I I have so many meetings I don't but um and spoke. So, we were all briefed as a committee on the Eagle situation and the federal government rules.
So, we know it's not ideal that it's rescheduled and we appreciate your patience. We don't have any control over that, but we do encourage you to come out and come out together because it is important that you're heard and it's important that they see and hear the number of people that have concerns.
>> Thank you. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Any other comments? >> With that, I'll make a motion to close public portions or a second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Opposed? Public portion is closed and we are adjourned. Good evening.