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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: BBKK8YG72Yo):
- 00:00:01: Meeting Commences: Roll Call, Pledge, and Minutes Approval
- 00:03:28: Application: Atkinson - Adding to Existing Level Home
- 00:11:17: Application: Moody - Resolution Extension Due to Hardship
- 00:13:53: Chairman Recuses, Application: Moody - Lake View Drive
- 00:24:55: Application: Whitaker - Side Setback, Family Room Addition
- 00:39:17: Financial Disclosures, New Business, Misread Resolution
- 00:40:50: Affordable Housing Tax Obligation Discussion and Clarification
- 00:50:54: Real Estate Taxes: Graduated Tax & Transfer Tax Discussions
- 00:52:52: Meeting Adjournment Motion and Final Remarks


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Roll call, please. >> Mr. Neman >> here. >> Mr. Saraka >> here. >> Mr. Barski >> here. >> Mr. Walsh >> here. >> Mr. Centennio. >> Mr. Szo >> here. >> Miss Lepino >> here. >> Mr. Marjack

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>> here. >> Mr. Hortman >> here. >> Good evening everyone. Wberlin, please rise for the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the rep for it stands

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nationy and justice for all. We'll do the approval for the minutes from last month. Has everyone read the minutes from last month? >> I said, >> okay. Is there anyone in the audience here for an application that's not being

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heard tonight? Has everyone read the minutes from last month? >> Are there any comments on the minutes from last month? >> Can I have a motion to wave the reading of the minutes? >> First by Ted. >> I'll second.

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>> Second by Rich. All in favor? >> I opposed. None. Motion to approve the minutes. I make a motion to approve the minutes as I'll second. >> First by Ted, second by Rich. All in

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favor? >> Opposed? We have We have two resolutions from last month. Wallace and Ramos. I make a motion that we read of the resol. >> Which second?

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>> Do I have a motion to adopt the two resolutions from last month? >> I make a motion we adopt the resolution from last month. Wallace and >> Ted first. Rich second choice. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Neman, >> yes.

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>> Mr. Sarakola, >> yes. >> Mr. Walsh, >> abain. >> Mr. Senzo, >> yes. >> Miss Lapino, >> Mr. McCarthy, >> abstain. >> Mr. Hartman. >> Yes.

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>> Mr. My >> Yes. Our first application is Atkinson 51 Long View Drive in Waldok. >> Evening, Mr. Chairman. Can you raise your right hand please?

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>> And you're here as the next in the field and is going to testify >> any questions. >> In that case, sir, if you raise your right hand, please do testimony. You're about to give me the truth, the whole truth, and nothing about the true self of God. >> I do.

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>> State your name, spell your last for the record. >> A k. >> Thank you, sir. You all can sit down. This is a level home. driveway. What they intend to do is remove the

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grounding shed that's down. Build a new one. They propose to remove the existing an addition to the rear oft for an extingu,000. This lot is 10,000.

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The width is 100. We have 100 depth required is 150 and this site is 100. We're looking for C1 varants for the shallow site

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with the front yard and the rear yard in this zone to be 50. So anything that's on this site would require a guaranty are fine on this. The coverage again

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on this 36.47% is required bringing it just under 27%. And again, it's just an and dining. Just looking for

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the deck proposed. How big is the proposed deck? And go all the way across the house. >> Just on that lower level for the kitchen and dining room.

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What does that give us? >> I'm sorry. Good. Okay. So for all of that, the only things that that are changing are the block coverage and the rear setback. The rear setback's

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already violated. >> Yeah. Just make it a little worse, but you got a third less property ship. See what we got. >> Take questions from the board. Brian,

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would you like to start? That's not an issue for us. question. >> Questions? >> I also have no questions. >> No questions. >> Is there anyone in the audience has a question for this applicant?

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>> No. Do you have any final comments settling? Final comments. >> Brian favor. >> I would be in favor. >> I'd also be in favor. >> Have a motion to approve this application.

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>> I make a motion to approve this. >> Ted first Brian second choice. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Neman. >> Yes, >> Mr. Sarah. >> Yes, >> Mr. Barski. >> Yes, >> Mr. Walsh. >> Yes, >> Mr. Senzo. >> Yes, >> Mr. Pino. >> Yes, >> Mr.

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>> Yes, >> Mr. Hartman. >> Yes. >> All right, you are approved. You are free to apply for your building permits. One thing I do have to caution you about

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there is the way the law works. Your application is approved now but the resolution is done. Resolution comes next month at this time. From the day that the resolution is published, which is usually a day or two after

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the public at large has time to um challenge it. doesn't it doesn't usually happen application like this. Is there anybody behind you? What are you back up to?

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Couple houses. Even at that, you're making it better. So, I have to make you aware that it could happen, but I can't remember seeing it happen. Thank you.

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Should I introduce Should I call the next one or should Rich do it because it's the one I have to please call it and then refuse. >> Our next application is Moody >> Three Lake View Drive. >> I know there was going to be an

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extension to a resolution tonight, >> right? >> They are unable to make it, but they are my client. I don't know. I need to say anything. Should I stay till you read it or >> um Can I take this?

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>> Yeah. >> M Sharon, what are the extenduating circumstances? >> Um my clients, they have a handicapped child at this time. They're looking they've been trying to get 24hour service

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and they just put it on hold. Um they are looking to do it this year, but uh trying to get that 24hour just put them back and it's going to be up for next May, but I figured get it in

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now. Okay, guys. And the daughter in question is Katie. There's You got to give us the nod saying, "Yeah, it's okay." But that's as far as

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we got to go. So, we have a quick voice vote on this one. >> Yeah. I should I abain because I'm within 200 ft. Yes. >> I make a motion we extend the approval. >> Brian P second.

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>> Nadia second. >> Yes. >> Mr. Neman. >> Yes. >> Mr. Sarah. >> Yes. >> Mr. Barski. >> Yes. >> Mr. Walsh. >> Yes. >> Mr. Selain. Ino. >> Yes. >> Mr. Jack. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hartman. >> Yes.

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>> All right. >> Tell them tell them they got it. It's not going to be anything more formal than a letter from the board and provide them they got another they got a year. >> Very good. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Joyce, you'll be able to take

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the one next to Joe. >> Do I need to say anything for the record? >> Two things say You got to say for the record that you abain. >> So I do the application. >> No, you say the application.

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>> I abstain from the application. >> We have a chair. >> We got this covered. Okay. Yes. Okay. So, we have this would be Moody, correct? >> Okay. Next application is Moody, three Lake View Drive.

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>> Thank you. Let the record reflect that the chairman has recused himself and has left the um All right. Who we got?

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>> Okay. And you are the Moody's. All right. Stand, please. Okay. We'll do the moodies first. You show a testimony you're about to give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Self

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each of you in turn, state your name. Spell your >> last sit. I'm sorry, sir. Your name was >> Scott. Scott. >> Thank you. Okay, Mr. Fellow, would you raise your right hand, please?

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The truth. >> Okay. Now, um, have you have you appeared before the court before? >> Okay. If you could just for the for the record, if you could give us a quick sum, sit down. Yes.

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Um, if you could just give us a quick summary of your education experience just so we have it on the record. >> Sure. Bachelor of Architecture 99%. >> All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Once again, members of the board, Mr.

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Bella presents to you as an expert in the field of architecture. As a result of that, he is allowed to express opinions. Other other witnesses can only express facts. If you find his opinions to be helpful in rendering your decision, you are

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absolutely entitled to accept them. If you find that his opinions run contrary to what your view of what you hear is, you are not bound to accept them. All right. He's here to help us.

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And Mr. Bell, are you leading it off? >> Yes. Floor is yours, sir. >> Thank you very much. Good evening. We're looking for a variet. The first and foremost deal with

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Secondly, in my opinion, very difficult to work on a corner lot because of those two setbacks. And then lastly, I would say about 90% of the existing very difficult to do anything

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without first and foremost as I mentioned we're doing so the addition itself to the left but again it is secondly uh because even though I should

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say we have very lot we are still okay with building a very you know, make the lot. So basically we believe we're looking for asking for

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very addition that would allow the homeowners to get home and I don't think the building in a nutshell is the city first There goes another one that's on the property.

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This is >> pretty simple. And as a result, back with the exception of the deck Nothing is being exacerbated, is it? >> Except by virtue of the fact that the building itself is bigger because it's

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smaller. So it's a technical exacerbation, not in fact a functional one. >> That's pretty much what I got. >> Questions from the board? >> Sure. Um, any question? Sorry. Any

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questions from the board? end up basically just >> comraight. question. >> Um, just the the the deck it says pergola. Is that nothing more than a trellis open to the atmosphere?

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>> Got you. Yeah, it's not covered. >> That's all I have. >> Stand cliff. No questions. >> Good. >> All right. Do we have any questions from the audience? >> No questions from the audience.

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Does the applicant have any further comments? Any final comments from the board? >> Application. I think it'd be a nice touches. I'm in favor as well. >> It looks good. I see there are twotory.

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>> Can I have a motion to approve this application? >> Second. >> Mr. Saraka. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mr. Walsh. Yes, >> Mr. Santo. >> Yes, >> Miss Lino. >> Yeah,

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>> Mr. Jack. >> Yes, >> Mr. Hart. >> Yes, >> same thing I said before applies to you guys. You heard it? >> Yes, sir. >> Good luck. Where'd he go?

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One of the other seven coming >> books on top of the other one. >> I forget the Mr. Whitaker, you gave us a summary on this one, right? >> Yes, I did. Yep, that's knew I'd seen it. Who have you got for us?

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>> I have our architect Michael. >> All right, raise your right hand test. state last before this before. >> Um, you should give us for the record the benefit of your education and experience.

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>> Masters of architecture Okay. And how long have you been practicing? And this is a single family residential product uh project in

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>> addition to second. Um and you've done these before, right? Of course. Okay. Thank you by all means. Okay. Mr. Doer comes before you as an expert. As such, he can express an opinion with respect to architecture.

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You find his opinions helpful. You are absolutely entitled to accept them. If for some reason your your understanding of the situation differs, you are not bound to accept. Mr. Thank you.

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They're the elders and occupants of 11 street on your tax map as block 720.2 lot. It was a single family home on the property. The property has one nonconformity and that is the small existing structure is

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has a setback of 6.5 that's on the side of the property for a family room something that's not in today's world for a home but it'll be on the other side of the house so it

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doesn't exacerbate the nonforming that exists now of the 6.5 required. However, by virtue of what the proposing the addition will have a side of 12.4

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greater than 10 when we add them together, we don't have the 25 ft that is required under your code for combined side. As you hear from our witness, we have a setback that will be less than 25

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ft and then expands out because to this is that there is a skewed lot. So on the basis of lot it's recognized that under NJSA5 shape or size of a property. So in this

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instance the unusual condition is that property. testimony this evening from our architect that if that line was perpendicular we would not be this interesting part just

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it's a one story it is set back further across the front so you don't have that street looking at a house and seeing the whole house right at that front yard set it steps

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back also is that your coverage is at 22.5% 40% per show at a onetory position. With that said, I hope you look at the exhibit that's up

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there. >> I have a question for you. >> Excuse me. I understand. Are there any detriment to this application? I would say it's within the character of the

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neighborhood. It's not over. >> Thank you. >> So again, this is to you. Excuse me. Could you use the microphone, please? Because we have to have it. You're recording. >> Thank you.

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Set back, which again is an existing not being exacerbated. We're also requesting The property is 9,534. So in terms of the proposed project we are adding right?

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I would love to do the house. We intentionally did that to be as respectful as possible. as well. So if you have

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also of this size. >> So the setback itself is required. Correct. on the bas 23.6 Correct. On the basis of this unusual conditions

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from the board. Brian, you want to start? from the front of the house. >> Yes, it'll be able to give the impression like another question. Right. >> No questions.

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>> I have no questions. >> I think it would have been helpful if we would saw that. I had no idea. >> Right. We only have the site plan. >> We only have a pictures. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> I mean, like that's the whole picture,

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right? Can you come before us again? >> No questions. Do you have any other people testify? >> Take final comments from the board. I'd also be in >> I'd be in favor. I mean without a basement or additional living space that

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the application was really good. >> I'd also be in favor. >> Same here. >> I did a great room myself. Enjoy it. almost required an addition over the years.

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>> Is there anyone in the audience that has a question for this applicant? There's no questions from the empty room. >> You have to do it for the record anyway. >> Can I have a second? >> Can we have a motion to approve this application? >> I make a motion we approve this

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application. >> Ted first. Nice. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Yes. >> Mr. Sarah Polo. >> Yes. >> Mr. Barski. >> Yes. >> Mr. Walsh. >> Yes. >> Mr. Szo. >> Yes. >> Miss Lino.

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>> Yes. >> Mr. Jack. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hartman. >> Yes. >> Thank you very much. >> Mr. Whitaker for your >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you.

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>> You too. Sorry, your water bottle. >> You're welcome. >> Oh, thank you. >> I think he sent you and I both a copy. >> Do you need it? Do we have any old business to discuss?

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>> Did everyone do their financial disclosure? >> New business. We don't. We already did screens extension. >> Is there any other new business that we have? >> Motion to adjourn. >> Yeah.

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>> You mentioned that there was a third reason for seeking the varants. You said one was one was overriding the building inspector. >> I misread something. >> That's all. >> Is it possible to

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resolution obligation resolution? building up% obligation. financial obligation. >> Correct. current assessment

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assessment assessment now it's catching people by surprise bottom resolution first half is second half

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and when you have to know the most explain. So I think this is something that might be included in your speech at the about

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maybe that's 2% on the whole% difference and now it's all% >> housing assessment Joe, let me let me get this clear. In other words, um the people understand that if they put an addition on their

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tax bill is going to be bigger than without the addition, right? >> Correct. On top of that, so yes, your tax assessment would be greater. So taxes per year is going to be greater, but on top of that, we get kicked in the pay% >> of the of the cost of the addition or

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the difference in the the old assessment versus new assessment. >> Correct. The assessment on time fee. >> Well, yes. >> And that's New Jersey. >> When do they find out what the new assessment will be? >> So when they permit application, when

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they give us one assessor of the job, she gives us a letter to assessment. So

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2% tax department send you something like that >> and they refer to that legal requirement section. >> Well it's it states so that obligation

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whether the statute is mentioned or not but I thought that maybe gently tell them and this way >> and reinforce it in the resolution as well. >> Correct. Because of times when people

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are so what are you doing about it? >> I heard it so I thought back in suggestion your application. Uh you can give instructions in your

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application that if the board approves your application, a resolution will be adopted at the next meeting. We put that in the town I represent. you basically don't have to attend the next meeting and then we put in there a 45day appeal

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time after publication and then we recite the affordable housing so that people know it when they're filling out the application to avoid what happens here the building departments and the towns I represent u I heard about this years ago and it's

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been a big problem and I've had it for my client I tell the clients but by the time thes to me. They've already got the contract, okay? They're excited about it. I put it in the letter. They probably they read it, but they forget about it. And then later when it's all

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done and they're looking for a CL and think about it in the in a home in Franklin, you know, maybe they can afford it, but the number is huge. >> Okay. So, we have to line up with homeowners now all the things they're looking at. Franklin Lakes, for

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instance, has a fee tree removal. >> Extraordinary up there. Their number per tree would give you a headache. I have somebody building a house and before they put a shovel in the ground, they got to spend $50,000 for the trees.

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>> So, we tell everybody now ahead of time because the soft cost before you get to construction is crazy. Part of that, but that's the to do it is to put it right in the application so you don't have anybody say I didn't

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know. >> Want to do me a favor? Shoot me a copy of your application. >> Yeah, I'll get that part. >> Thank you. I appreciate that for you. Yes. >> Thanks. >> Are you putting it in the resolutions as well as a reinforcement? >> I uh we put in the resolutions. I put it

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uh it's subject to construction code affordable housing. It's required that type of thing. Yeah. I don't put any numbers or anything like that. >> No fees. They have to keep the escro account. >> Yeah.

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>> So Joe, your application is before us. You don't need autos. >> Oh, absolutely. >> Second story house. lots on the west side of traffic, the two lots that are approved for

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development, 17 or $19,000 each lot in that fee. >> 2% equals $17,000. >> They're vacant lots now. So there's new construction approved. >> So the entire value of the structure

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>> friend I want to buy them. I said >> is the tax assessor letting people know in advance? >> No. >> Okay. They have to go and ask the tax. >> Okay. Because I got my I got my co in in January

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12 years ago. >> Thank you. >> No time like the president. >> No, I was always in favor of letting the people know they can get an estimate from the tax assessor. They

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would have to do that entirely on their own. used to be and I don't know if this was something that wasn't initially typically going a couple years back we only did that on brand new constructions

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and lo and behold it also additions as well >> strictly additions >> but it's addition >> but it doesn't if you like reside your house and change your windows. That doesn't apply.

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>> Not yet. >> Not yet. Not yet. >> The state wasn't happy with their little portion of the permit application. I mean people's money. >> So the town collects on behalf of the state.

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>> Correct. Take your example a step further. It's $4,000 on that $200,000. >> It's a lot of money, but it shouldn't break $200,000 improvement. budget. >> Really? >> Thank you so much.

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>> I appreciate it. >> A lot of sh out there now real estate the what they man they call the graduated tax that the buyer would have to pay and now it's

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>> yes% it goes up but I think real estate the house cost 50 60 $80,000 some of the houses now the sales tax real estate And now this graduated tax,000

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>> what else? >> Did you say sales tax on a real estate sale? >> Real estate real estate transfer taxdes. before he left. Had a lot of closings in July. What we did is so we could

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get a good idea. Yeah. So, in theory, at least they'll get it twice. They'll get it from their office and they'll get it >> from us. I mean, it's a heads up. >> Anything else?

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>> Any other good news? So many things seem like a good idea at the time. >> Somehow the details get screwed up. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion to adjourn. Ted first

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>> Rich

