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e e e e okay the microphones are on and the tape is on this meeting is being held in conformance for the sunshine law notice of time date and place has been furnished to the Burgen record and the
Ridgewood news notice has also imp posted on the bulletin board of the administration building clerk please take the role mayor Gano here Mr brck I'm here M saraha Drake here Mr martinello here Mr rundo here Mr Richie here Mrs Weber here everyone kindly
stand for the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all have a moment of silence for all World veterans and all veterans
across our country that have given the ultimate sacrifice serving our country some not making it home so that we could live in a free country and assemble The Way We Are Tonight with the clerk doe to prayer dear Lord we start this meeting asking for your guidance and wisdom may we find
unity and fairness the outcome should reflect our wishes to assist the burrow in all their Endeavors thank you in his name amen than you okay good evening everyone Welcome to our meeting I know we started a little early but we have a lot to
accomplish tonight uh I got a couple of things that I'll be talking about first of all um I need we need an we need an alternate number two for the zoning board so uh a gentleman by the name of Joe Myer Jack put an application in and
what we did was uh uh I spoke with him and he is willing to uh be on the board as an alternate too I need a motion and second then put it to a vote to accept them motion by Katie and second by uh Andy Clark take the
r um Mr brck yes Miss sah C yes Mr martinello yes Mr randoo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes okay a couple of other things uh on Saturday that just passed uh the May's
uh meeting that we held was held in uh Ramsey and we brought in uh John danubio who is in charge of the Sewer Authority uh to talk to us about um the rates and why things are the way they are the
meeting was a very good meeting was uh had about seven or eight may as they are out of the the 15 um we talked about each Town talked about wider rates the way they are uh when it came to Waldwick our rates are high this year and what happened is when
he got the data from the burough of walwick he realized that it was high so what he did was for five five times he checked the data to make sure the data was correct what it was is that we have a lot of uh high water content table here also we have um there was a lot of
rain and a lot of people flush their toilets and that's one of the reasons why but what they're doing is they're looking into other ways in which they're going to be reviewing this we asked them a lot of questions uh it lands up that I don't
know why we were told but uh out of all the towns that they service one town the water um rate went down and that was uh Ramsey everybody else stood the same or went up what he suggested is that years ago we used to do I and I we stopped
doing it he thinks that that would be a good way to um bring the money our fees down which he suggested he also told us that um their budget was uh $1,997 510 service charges from all the towns
was $4,799 and five 14, 7999 $510 that was the charges the difference is about $2 million and he says that $2 million uh comes from the outside areas that
come in and and deposit this their waste which is in New York that saved the the town's uh money also he says that in regards to town uh people coming in uh after hours he said that uh that stopped one of the people that do come in was
caught coming in at a uh at an early time that person was suspended from using the facility for a month and if it happens again he says that uh he will uh tell them they're no longer to use the authority we did also question him about their their the capacity there and he
did say that um right now the capacity is 50% so any development that any town does they could uh handle it with no problem he also said the pipes the one they were put in years ago uh were made so big that and everything it'll be all
right and what they're doing is they're monitoring everything that is being done right now the formula for the ratio is uh was made in 1983 it was then amended in 1985 also 16 60% of the water that goes
in there is meter flowed uh 20% is from uh the dwelling of our units and 20% is the water usage so um all the towns did question him about all that stuff he did tell us that they
are doing some uh water uh calculations and surveys they're going to do it in the months of October to uh to March and the reason why they do it that way is because that's that's the time of the months that nobody really uses water there's no pools being filled there's no uh uh sprinkler systems being uh taken
care of so that's uh what he talked to us about today uh Steve and I met with him and we also met with another gentleman from the board to talk about the issues of water and of the odor smell and everything
like that this has been going an ongoing uh conversation we've been having with the authority unfortunately we couldn't really say much about it until we were told to talk about this because they were doing certain things Steve will talk a lot about that but all I could say is that they are trying they watch
our meetings they know what's being said they um in they're investing a lot of money into uh the operation of the authority and uh we were there about an hour an hour and a half and it was a good meeting um and uh Steve will talk
to you more about it and if he forget something I'll jump in and if I forgot something you jump in all right uh thank you mayor um yes so they we kind of talked about what are the what are the steps forward in a plan so in the short term they're actually planning to hire uh a person you know one of their their
workers on overtime who's going to start monitoring the whole area so basically the area from Matthews Diner all the way to Dow and and kind of around um this person is going to be there after hours so I think around you know 4:30 in the evening on um they have what's called an
H2S meter that they're going to be utilizing which monitors uh different odors um I believe it's hydrogen sulfide yeah um which is what stinks basically um so they're going to be utilizing that and this person is going to really just be going around and testing for odors um
all over and comparing and just tracking all the data they're going to be filing reports every day with this gentleman that's going to get run through um Mr danubio to keep on file um so that's going to happen probably within the next few weeks um in addition he said he's
sending all his supervisors for training so they um can communicate with residents better um we notified him that that was an issue that's come up is how some of the information is being handled and relayed from the supervisors to our residents um so he's planning to address
that uh we also talked about um how residents can submit better so they have their own form um which he's going to be updating it's pretty simple form not much information on it so they're going to update that uh try and gather more information we said we'd be more than
happy to work with them on that too we're going to have um all this info on our own website so it's easy access for our residents and we could Point our residents to directly um so we're working with them on that U maybe an online submission form that lives on their website that we share or lives on
our website that we share out so we're still working through some of those details um but pretty much it's it's a lot of data collection and reporting for the next few months and then you know the second phase would be to you know use that information and work towards maybe
uh a more detailed study and you know some feasibility studies things like that and they also are getting new recalibration system meters cuz the ones that they had uh they had to send them out so what they're doing is they're borrowing new ones until they get their own and they're going to be going around
doing everything so if you see a car car with a man in there uh he's going to be walking around the neighborhood the police will also know that the gentleman is around the area he also did say that when they train these uh people uh that are in his uh area there they're going
to train them to identify different types of smell so you they'll they'll know what the type of smell is because right now when he a report comes in it says there's a smell foul smell it's going to be in details what type of smell it was so they they know what they have to do
they also said that uh we asked them about uh 9/11 that everybody smelt it and he says that unfortunately the gentleman that was working they didn't realize we had a ceremony and he opened up a door to clean it when he should have waited she says that was the
problem you know he apologized and everything and he did uh you know he did say that uh moving forward that he will be giving uh weekly uh reports to Steve and everything uh I did ask him about the person that sits on the uh the board
there who was from walck retired or left and there's an opening so I did I did ask if we could put somebody on he did say that um you could try but even when he put somebody on and it's given to the county executive the county executive
says thank you very much and picks who he wants but yesterday I did after we met on Saturday Monday I spoke I sent an em I told him I was doing this and I sent an email to the county executive telling him that you know we had a host town and maybe we could have a say on at
that table that that we know not that we didn't trust the person before but we have now somebody that we would like I told him that I'll give him I gave him three names and the three names uh if they he was interested I will arrange a meeting with them and then also we will uh discuss
um a resume with them so the three names I give I gave to him was Eric I gave um Mr Mitchell and then I gave uh Joe Orit because Joe orich used to work there and he knows a little bit of the ins and
outs I don't think Joe oritz will even be looked at but maybe we have a chance with uh Eric and uh Mr Mitchell uh the meeting as I said or also uh Steve said went off pretty good and you know we're just going to now wait for him to see
what he's going to do he did say it's going to take it's going to be a month that they'll be around the area checking out the smell and everything so and if anybody still has any complaints or anything he wants everyone to still call and as Steve said
he's going to change the way the format is about the complaints coming in uh other thing that we discussed was we had a meeting about water you want to take that um yeah and please fill in everybody uh if we miss anything but yes
so we had our first official uh water equality committee meeting uh last week um which went really well uh was members of the council the mayor uh staff and our engineering firm has a team of four put together on this um so really we
kind of just introduced ourselves caught up uh went over all the various issues that have happened pretty much since June of last year up until current times with the discoloration the loss of pressure just every single possible water issue we've been experiencing um and then we just talked
about you know what's the path forward um a communication strategy is one piece um we're planning to have an open public meeting just focused on water quality issues that'll we're aiming for sometime in April we don't have a firm date on that yet um but we have our next
follow-up meeting next Thursday actually um in the afternoon so we're going to hopefully zero in on that a little bit more um speaking with h2m they're they have a proposal for us for a hydraulic model which will help really capture a
lot of useful data to help put things together um I recently provided them all of our GIS data and mapping that we had uh created this past year we started that project actually at the end of 2023 so we just finished that up pretty recently we're finalizing that we should
have our GIS um up and running hopefully you know within the next month I'd say you know by March we should have that online we'll share that with the h2m as well and and Boswell will maintain that with us uh we've actually created I just bought new licensing for our own GIS
system um so we'll actually house that so we'll have and own all the data ourselves so we won't have to share an account with any of the engineers so we could Grant access to whoever we need to for that um so all the pieces are are starting to come together we're not
fully there yet but we definitely have a good plan in place and we're we're starting to move forward so we're going to continue to tackle the issue and hit it from all angles and the resident that was uh chosen uh Mr gadell he's aware of everything and he'll be at the meeting with us yes correct yep he just
confirmed that today okay okay just a couple more things uh if you go on our website you'll see a uh an application for a Lewis Bay um League of municipality scholarship it's given to any walwick student who would like to fill out an application it's online and
it's a $1,000 scholarship and it's given by the league of municipalities it's about what my municipal government does best we've had a couple of winners every year we send it to the high school uh Kelly posted on our website we sent it to the 7th Day eventor School this year
and anybody that would like to uh fill out the scholarship application you got to send me a letter telling me why you you know why the government is working for you or what it does the best by March 7th everything is posted on our site so you could pick everything up from there so if you know anybody that's
graduating or even a junior let them come and uh fill out the application also one more thing this we need to put it to a vote we got a an email from the uh baseball association board president
uh asking us if they lease our fields at trap Haagen I mean at the burrow Park since the turfield is going to be under construction the the baseball team has no place to practice so they were asking if they could sublet it to the baseball
association so that the high school so that they could have a field to practice practice it's a one shot deal it's something that probably will never have to happen again hopefully U so that they could practice without going into another town to do it I spoke to the attorney about this and I mean I think
it's not a problem it's for the Youth of our community they need a place to go They're not going to be there all year round just going to be there for the part of the season and the uh baseball association will be responsible of everything all we have to do is just write up a little something you know an
agreement here and there um I was thinking about it a little bit before and you know what happen if somebody else wants to come forward and say they want to use that field from us a little different because here this is a uh one- shot deal they're not going to be doing this every year and and it's just to
help them out so um do I have a motion in a second to have the uh attorney write up some verbiage so that uh we all we're all protected in this Mark uh Michelle uh clerk take the rooll
Mr brck yes m s Drake yes Mr martinello yes Mr rundo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes okay also Story Time with the mayor has been cancelled uh from to Friday at
the 3:30 to February 28th at 3:30 it's been it'll be posted all over the place and uh that's really all I have to say right now Financial administrative committee C Richie thank you Mr Mayor and good evening everybody uh so last
week if you joined us we started our 2025 Municipal budget with the capital budget this evening we will be starting to look at the operating budget we don't have all of the details in place yet we don't have all of the expenditures especially those expenditures that were
required uh to pay lined up but we'll I think we'll we'll be able to cover uh the majority of of the budget and uh have a good discussion it will be line by line so uh bear with us uh last week there was um I made a comment about the
uh the Water uh the Water Department and kind of the budget within the water department there were a few questions over email um and I wasn't I wasn't exactly sure how to address your questions council president so I wanted to give you the opportunity to ask them and then I can go back to the drawing
board and pull the information sure the new business or not you now is fine uh basically looking at the projections that you given us from last year um a lot of those items I know are shared uh
salaries are shared at 50% and some points and some at 20% those I know will be pushed back into the budget that things change and but the most of the operating expenses taxes $220,000 that
will that will go away because we do we own the property up in white book some these items will change uh some of the operating costs that's the items that I highlighted and put in a spreadsheet if you have any questions about the spreadsheet that I sent please feel free
to ask it just wasn't sure what it was what it was actually laying out basically the expenses that are not going to move forward if things change and the items that would move into the those are the expenses that would go there are allocations that would go back into the budget that's what the there's
allocations that would go back into the budget there's allocations that would away that's what the spread and those are those are both in the spreadsheet okay both in the spreadsheet and and what was the the highlights the highlights are so that you can see where the lines came into the spreadsheet and where it came from your budget okay and
those are confirmed to not those are confirmed allocations to go back into the things are changing you're not going to pay an electric bill and the the only items that were items with regards Toc Rue that would come in with to taxes
okay so you want us to go back and look at all of the allocations in the water budget and report back to you this is what's important right now for you okay this is the most important thing for you right now it's not the most important thing no but you but but obviously this is for the budget this is what's very important you want you don't want to
wait for the we're going to pay a company to do a deep financial analysis for us that's fine okay so you want us to goe okay so we'll go back we'll Steve we'll go back we'll look at the allocations on the water budget we'll look at what carries forward if we were
to potentially sell and then what would what would remain okay all right so can we you think we can do that before the next council meeting we need to pull that together okay okay all right so we'll try to report on that for you at the the next council meeting now now I
understand the question all right so this evening we'll focus on the the operating budget and we'll we'll take it from there we have pronouns for you all so uh you know we'll uh it won't be digital this year okay thank you thank you fire and police protection committee
councilman brenick no report tonight thank you so much Public Safety Committee councilman Sarah col Drake Thank You mayor I lost my voice I'm getting a little sick but bear with me so so far this month we've had 32 total calls six calls to the Bristol five
general calls taken outside of Duty Crew hours one mutual Aid call to Allandale two members receive CPR instructor certifications and will be offering freeh handson CPR training to local organizations and businesses that are interested if anyone's interested please
reach out to Lucas or Adrien directly or contact them at info@ Waldwick ems.com the Waldwick access for all committee um also had a postcard that hit mailboxes last week I'd like to commend them on a great effort creating this piece to spread awareness and
encourage growth within their group thank you thank you Recreation and health committee Mr councilman monello thank you Mr Mayor um few updates tonight u in health just a reminder that we have the child health clinic every
third Wednesday at White Slaine um every every month we see a few kids there and give out some uh immunizations it's a great um facility um also on their website under www nwbr rc.org there's a bunch of events under
the calendar there's a cardiac comeback a weight loss surgery pregnancy classes snoring sensation uh there's a lot of resources there for members of the community to utilize for free U so please visit their website uh in Recreation the wal baseball association
registration is open it's walwick baseball. sport ng.com for pre through 8th grade we're already over 250 kids signed up and uh sponsorship available open opportunities are open for teams and Banners this year and they also
they're having a golf outing on April 10th so uh so information is on the website if you would like to play or sponsor a hold there's opportunities there that's a great uh Community event also the Highland lacrosse program invites the wal boys and girls to
register um in a lacrosse program registration actually just closed yesterday but I'm sure they wouldn't turn kids away if you're still interested you can go on to their website site at Highlands laac cross.com for more information there um also some other community events coming up on
February 27th we have Ramadan Crescent lighting at the library at 6 p.m. and given that Valentine's Day is on Friday the heart is a great uh thing to remember so the blood pressure screening on March 5th at 11:45 a.m. to 12:30 also
at the walwood clinic on 22 white sling and then coming up in March on March 8th Saturday morning there's a bcua household Hazard hazardous waste if you want to get rid of items that are in your garage or in your shed that you uh can't get rid of any place else it's a
good opportunity to do that they take paint they take gas they take things that you wouldn't really um get rid of in normal garbage uh that's at the Empire Boulevard in munaki at their facility and then lastly April 1st pool registration opens so get your
registrations ready to go there thank you Mr Mayor thank you and also the month of uh February is hot screening month and uh we we we don't say it much enough but uh Sean Fisher the young boy that uh uh died on the football field
playing soccer I think it was was it not football no football playing football his mother was home baking cakes for him to come home with his friends for his birthday and he passed out cuz he had a problem with his heart they never detected it ever since his death his parents since moved away but they still
come into walck and to the schools and they do heart screening and it's a good thing I think they saved a lot of lives and uh what I'm going to do is I'm going to send him a letter from the mayor and Council thanking him for continuing to support Waldwick and and our young
athletes and and young residents in our community I'd like to pay you back on that Mr Mayor with the uh Sean fiser Foundation my two of my children participated in in the in the hard screenings and uh my son did it when he
was when he was a when he was going in as a freshman and he never he didn't have an issue with the screening they show everything showed clear but he ended up having an issue a few years later and we were able to go back and look at that screening to see what had
changed in the I think it was four years between the two um so it was that and it was also that he was a junior on the wood fire department and they did the the physical from the town before he could join is a very thorough physical and they also did a heart screening on
him then so they had a lot of data which most children don't have um when they end up having a heart issue nobody knows have a baseline so take advant I I believe a lot of the parents do but it's a really good yep absolutely Public Works committee
councilman rundo thank you Mr Mayor uh only have two items uh want to thank the uh DPW for the past two storms uh as usual we get up in the morning and we're fortunate enough to have black top uh I travel through multiple towns going to work in the morning and I will say that
our roadways are probably one of the best uh even better than Route 17 that morning uh especially uh when we had the ice storm so uh I want to thank I also spoke with Mike Lor there was a question on the budget last week or two weeks ago
regarding the F350 that is utilized to plow so it's not just a CLE supervisor's vehicle it is required so that it is a vehicle that's used new equipment to do the plowing so he wanted to reiterate that I had asked them uh to verify that and he did confirm that and last but not
least is the the last STM we had this Sunday again another uh fine example of getting the roads clear on a day that most people don't need to be on the road because it is a weekend but again I want to thank him and the team for doing such a great job and appreciate all the hard
work that's all Mr Mayor thank you thank you buildings and grounds committee councilwoman Weber thank you Mr Mayor um nothing really went on this this month thank goodness um with any of our buildings and grounds um we had the the last item I think that was up was the
ambulance cour for uh elevator which was repaired um I just had some questions on that but uh that Steve's going to look into about how old it was and if it's worth updating um alog together also I was hoping that maybe we can look at
this year maybe um doing like a preventative maintenance program on a lot of our uh Heating units and AC units and just overall items um between all the buildings uh we we spent a lot of money last year on
some surprise issues maybe we can not have them being a surprise um that's all I have thank you thank you consent resolution I'm sorry uh our administrator anything uh thank you mayor I'm going to hold my comments for the budget discussion talk about the
sa the traffic thing oh yeah so we have been reviewing um some safety requests uh Traffic Safety requests from the community um so I've met with PD on that um we're actually going to do some
studies get updated uh accounts for kids crossing there was a request from HCA for a crossing guard at the intersection of East Prospect and Sheridan so they're going to start working on that um also been working with PD on um additional
speed limit signs on Crescent AV by the school there's actually none there I guess coming in from Allendale so um Sergeant Garcia requested to the county that they install some they they accepted um and approved it and passed it on to the road division so hopefully
we'll be seeing those going in soon um and we're really just waiting for the weather to clear to install some of the other equipment we have like the blinking crosswalks on Crescent and East Prospect um down here also um we do have a meeting scheduled with the Board of Ed
to discuss some other safety concerns soon um but more to come on that okay can I ask a question Steve um when HCA provided the petition did they secure monies from the town to do that petition or did they do it on their
own families yeah that was nothing was done through the buau we just received their report we were we were at a B ofed meeting when they when this the woman didn't know what to do with this petition and I said give it to us we'll we'll forward it to our administrator and him and and he and return will
submit it to the police department for review and that's what we did thank you thank you uh B clerk thank you mayor um I just want to remind everybody that we have a digital version of the uh 2025 calendar on our website really urge
everyone to take time to review the information contained in the calendar um the dates and the deadlines for scheduling heavy metal um Electronics B pickup are included on each month as well as the recycling collection for each week special events and burrow
holidays um just a reminder burrow offices the recycling center in the library are closed Monday February 17th in observance of President's Day there will be normal Monday garbage collection on Monday February 17th um with regards to elections I sent my petition member to the party leaders
earlier this month the legislature did passed and the governor did sign the bill increasing the number of signatures required on a petition for wal that means 50 valid signatures are now required on petitions April 16th is the deadline for change of party affiliation
declaration forms and that form is available on our website Mista continues to do an excellent job on keeping up with licenses uh dog licenses and and cleaning up the roles uh We've issued 750 licenses to date alarm Bri stations were sent out and are now coming in and
thus far we have collected $1,320 in those fees that's all I have thank you thank you okay a new one confidential assistant Tatiana good evening mayor I have nothing to report today oh you could have said
something a attorney thank you Mr Mayor no report this evening thank you very much hopefully no close no close thank you consent resolutions and resolutions of the governing body beat resolve that the following resolutions here with listed by consent having been considered by the governing body of the B of walck
are hereby passed and approve 2025 76 approval of consent 20 2025 77 approval of minutes regular meeting and Clos session meeting of January 14th and Clos session meeting January 28th policy votes Shiva bomart requests to use Pavilion a on May 4th from 1:00 p.m. to
DUS for a confirmation celebration with alcoholic beverages being served B waldock football club request to use Veterans Field Veterans Park field from March 1st through July 31st for you 8 through 11 practices and games as shown in the February 3rd 2025 email with the
stipulation that the DPW will paint lines in the field initially and after that the Warriors football club will be solely responsible for painting lines plus removal of all garbage left on the field areas each day C Superstar tennis requests to rent two Tennis Courts at
Veterans Park from May 26th to August 28th on Tuesdays and Thursdays from 3: to 7:00 p.m. at a cost of $1,500 per Court D waldor High School requests permission to use the Wald municipal pool on Thursday June 12th with a rain date of June 13th from 10:
a.m. to 3 p.m. for the senior class barbecue with lifeguard staff requested e Walder Chamber of Commerce request to hang the uh W uh W 5K Banner on the fence located at the end of East Prospect beginning April 1st as well as mounting the 3x5 American flag over
Hopper Avenue Bridge across from the burrow pool beginning May 1st to be removed um after May 4th F World Chamber of Commerce requests assistance of the police DPW sir and fire department with with the Chamber of Commerce 5K run on one mile walk on Sunday May 4th 2025 78
authorized execution of agreement with Phoenix advisors for a water utility evaluation in an amount not to exceed 15,000 22579 approval of the support for A4 uh 4649 to provide periodic cancer screening for volunteer fighter
firefighters through the State Health Benefit Plan 20258 accept designation of per DM crossing guard tahar risala and 2025 81 payment of vouchers do I have a motion and a second motion by Andy second by Joe on the
question number c is that the same group of people we worked with last year tennis court yes good okay also Andy could you do me a favor could you just remind the fire department that the they know about it but it would be nice to just remind them so that you know they
know um the flag for the 5K they probably already know but it'll be nice to let them you know show them to respect that we you know they need it anyone else should we discuss 2025 78 just give an overview of what what that
is the the hiring of the financial advisers sure I'm happy to take it if you want to take it whatever if you want to jump in I'll supplement so this is a F this is a I mean we can we can be open with everything here now right I mean this is a a group of financial advisers that we're hiring to essentially help us
look at whether they're selling the water system in Waldwick uh what the what's the valuation of the water system what are the potential Financial impacts of the burrow um we hope to get very deep into this uh to get a formal
analysis on what our budget looks like uh what a 5ye 10 year plan could look like what rates could look like keep in mind we haven't raised water rates in probably 12 13 years in Waldwick so uh problem which is is also a problem agreed yeah so um yeah so I I think that
this is a group that's going to step in they're experts they're going to help us we'll we'll have a full 360 view probably better than than certainly I can do uh from a financial perspective and it'll help us uh I think make the appropriate recommendation and uh this is uh an item
that will go uh to the town uh this is not decided by Council we make a recommendation and it essentially goes on the ballot in November and if we make that recommendation the the town votes on whether this proceeds or not so um anyway this sets that process forward uh
and I think it it'll be informative yeah and I'll just note too on the rates we are finalizing our rate study with our auditor um we hope to have that finalized too in in the coming months that'll be an important piece of the whole whole conversation anyone else can ask a question on
2579 approval to support periodic cancer screenings uh question I have is uh does this also include other professionals that are within the police department as well as the
ambulance Squad no and is there a reason why do we know yeah yeah because there's already a bill that does this for firen and fire women that um are paid oh I from the paid fire department because one of the concerns that I have is on all of our
calls that we have as being a member of the fire department the ambulance Squad and the police department are always on call and they don't have the same protective equipment that the fire department has it would be great if we could include those members in that as well because I think there you know secondhand smoke is an issue with people
that don't smoke uh and I think at a fire scene if these people are here for the entirety they're at just as great a risk as anybody else and it would be great that if that could be included in that uh it can't this bill has been in in uh this bill has been established
since June of 2024 it's been written this way and that what they're doing is they're just bringing it back again to review it I asked uh I forgot somebody in the fire up at the Academy about that they said it's just geared toward uh of fire
departments and uh right now it's for the paid departments and now we're asking to have them look into it for the volunteers okay then my next question this is for Craig um since there's several members on this Council that will benefit from this or do we need to
recuse oursel because we have gained from this uh resolution I don't I mean you're just supporting the passage of the bill the the recommendation to pass the bill I don't think the support will give you
any type of monetary benefit or anything in that nature so I think you can clearly support I just wanted to be clear on the okay thank you anyone else yeah no I I think Mark's recommendation is actually fantastic um but as the mayor said this is the bill that is as written by assembly off so that's why
we're just going to voice our support for that I just hope it pushes through same here I benefit nothing would prevent you guys if you want to amend the resolution to put that recommen recommendation in when you send that resolution to your to your
elected officials and say look we understand what you wrote but we'd like to also encourage you to amend your bill to include uh cor members and Stu like that's a good idea right maybe they never thought about it with the other the other groups First Responders they
might not have because as councilwoman said they there is a paid firefighter statute already so nobody might have thought about you know your ambulance core or anybody else so yeah you got the ambulance C you got the search they're all they they're all around the fire department so say uh the thing with the
phone that was a big thing the fireman has foam on them they go to the uh the uh e yeah the ambulance to be treated now you got all that stuff yeah could we do something about that yeah you just want to make a motion to to include
those as a recommendation and amend the resolution and then whoever made the motion for the consent just to amend you know as amended all right who made the motion okay Andy and Andy May am amend it please say that include the uh am
ambulance cores and Sir I'd like to amend that to include the UL SC and Sir any any other first respon very good thank you that good anybody else okay clerk take the
role Mr brck yes Miss sahri yes Mr martinello yes Mr rundo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes okay we have a public hearing ordinance number 2025 d01 with the clerk kindly
read it ordinance number 20251 and ordinance repealing and replacing the burough stormwater management ordinance to comply with updated New Jersey D requirements anybody from the council would like to comment on this go this is this is just an
ordinance uh there's new state statutes and everything regarding storm water management so it was easier to repeal and replace your entire section in order to update it uh so that's all this is doing to comply with the D anyone else nope I close the council's comments and open up for the public anybody from the
public would like to comment on this ordinance being none I close the Public's uh comments and ask for a motion in a second to pass this on second reading and that the clerk be authorized to advertise in a local legal newspapers as required by law Motion in a second by
Mark and Joe clerk please take the RO Mr brck yes mrake yes Mr marello yes Mr randoo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes okay unfinished business we will be
discussing the 2025 Municipal budget discussion let us uh grab the sheets and look popular thank you so much um and just to know we have Colleen here also to jump in but um do you want
me to kind of kick things off so as councilman Richie said we're really just doing a kind of high level you know first first run through of the operating um I think as most of you are aware there's not really too much um surprising in this one over the years
we've kind of scaled things back so uh everything that's being proposed is we feel pretty much necessary there's really not too many things uh different from last year or or any additional you know surprising requests so if you want we could kind of just start and we'll go
Department by Department um I could highlight certain things and note you know areas where we're missing that we have to fill in the blanks um for the next one um but if that works for everybody we could just jump right in good all right um so just the first page
is is General Administration um really we're we're pretty much right on we increased um the uh miscellaneous Professional Services from last year um this actually was higher then we we cut
it back last year a little bit um looking to increase that again we did end up spending a little bit more um we took things out of there like um our telecommunications expert attorney um and I think the some of the
Land Conservancy money for the open space plan things like that came came out of that one so we just want to keep that healthy there's a lot going on this year so just in case um and pretty much just going down is you know all our conference meetings organization
dues um and allowances in here is also the public information line which is the calendar our website hosting so that line actually dropped a little bit from last year because if you remember we did the website rebuild so we're able to drop that back down we're just looking
at our hosting fees now um there's a new item in there the constant contact which is our our new um weekly and monthly newsletter that Kelly has been doing a fantastic job on um so nothing nothing too surprising does anyone have any
questions I have a quick question since we're using the constant contact I know that nixel is still being used by like the PD did our like pricing go down because we're not using it anymore no no unfortunately yeah it's not really based it is based on usage but it's not we
don't use it enough to make a debt in it um yeah and thanks for bringing that up you know nixel will still be used for emergency communications we've kind of shifted things that way and the constant contact will be used for you know your everyday events um just quick question it's just a few dollars but the the last line
there you talked about um we had the budgeted for 12,400 we utilized 7,000 we're asking for 11 this year you just said we probably decreased because we just have the hosting fees we already did the website redesign is that a possibility there where was a little bit
of benefit at the end uh potentially it all comes down that's the calendar cost too is is in there so that gets offset by advertising so I think we're right around yeah except for the postage so yeah the postage goes up a little bit
every year so um we're just trying to make sure there's a little bit of a buff in there get yeah we can't necessarily you know Bank on the advertising dollars we feel pretty confident where we're at which I think is like $9,200 somewhere in that we haven't had an issue filling the sponsors and we already have a wait list
for um other sponsors new ones that want to come on board so no no uh hesitation that we won't cover it yeah so I I wouldn't we might have a little buffer there but I wouldn't necessarily recommend any Cuts there thank you um the big ticket item is on page
two which is all of you the mayor and Council budget um pretty standard there I don't think there's you would like to give back the $500 for the Northwest Bon I'm going to contribute to saving our time money okay as the president of the association I didn't raise dues this
year so take $500 off okay noted thank you all right uh moving on to the municipal Clerk's budget uh again pretty straight forward I think we we bumped up elections slightly slightly just based on uh if we have returns from the um
ballots uh the mail and ballots um we get charged for that the if we go to legal notices we we kind of kept that the same although I am doing with uh Melissa's help most of the um affidavits
uh only if we absolutely need one from the paper are we getting it because it's an additional $25 each time so um that so that line you know we might be able to save something there but we just don't know that yet could I have a question about that sure on here if if
we have a if we do something with award and we have to have a uh you know a referendum is that included in the price here or that's a different charge absolutely not that's more no that's no that's not included at all not included how much is that going to go roughly I
wouldn't even want to give you a guess okay out water budget though that would come out of water budget right oh that I'm glad that I gave you 500 bucks I don't I'm not really sure what it would we could try and pull more details together on that I honestly don't know
right now long the last time we did it was wh's Pond and that was when Andy was on the council last time so what was that like a 1900 I have brown hair we can pull that together though
yeah oh thank you that's a good point so we we'll pull some details together um jumping down to the end you'll actually notice a significant decrease in in the total for this department uh last year yep thank you to Kelly for that here we
go but we had in there the sound system upgrades for this room uh which actually has been working out great so that was about 21,000 22,000 that we don't have to budget for this year so there's a good decrease there
okay um now you will notice later on in the finance department budget we actually added in um about another 20,000 for a payroll platform we've been Colleen and I have been meeting with several different companies we're
looking to get uh a payroll system in place right now we're really just utilizing spreadsheets so we want to have kind of a centralized digital platform that does all sorts of additional things like uh her her tax reports pension reports things like that um so we do see that as a benefit but so
there's decrease here but there's an increase there but it's really a trade-off just to note that save you a tremendous amount of time right too yes doing it with the platform and just a lot of valuable yeah report more detailed information a lot
of time and attend carefully okay and the ability for employees really to be able to find their information without always having to go bug necessarily Colleen and her office okay so being able to access your time sheets your tax records it's it's
helpful for them to savings for everybody good yeah they do all their pay time off requests everything through that system it just makes the approval process much easier which one you looking at yeah I don't want to name vend necessarily
right now that's nice that's a cool but we've met with at least four I think there's one more we really want to meet with and zero in on that is uh pretty popular in the municipal World um if I can offer any help that's what I do for a living is negotiate with um computer
vendors okay software vendors and if I can help at all in your selection process happy to help Absolutely I'll team you up with Colleen cuz she's pretty brutal and rough on the the vendors beats him up a little bit absolutely that keeps him onest Joe just don't take him into burrow
Park leave him in White's SPX yes stay away from the the baseball field um okay skipping to page four uh Financial Administration uh really no changes there nothing
uh to highlight um going down we for audit services I don't think we have that exact price so that's one we're going to have to go back and and plug in for you um just continuing on you know Revenue Administration tax collector I'll not the new payroll system is in
there for about $22,000 um everything else we do have to update this one a little bit um fortunately unfortunately Colleen was away so she's catching up uh pretty quickly this week um so we're giving her a little bit of time and then we'll get
all this filled in back for you Steve this question on the uh I told you a computer guy right y so antivirus for servers and workstations um we we host servers on site here at the building so we do we have yes um we have
some shared servers I believe they're actually at PD um for hours and PD now we're looking to make some changes with that potentially in the future and we are going to have to replace I believe to to the servers
uh soon or end of life any thoughts about going to an Azure or a cloud hosted so you can take away the maintenance cost of the servers and they automatic backups all that kind of stuff uh it's been talked about that's a little bit beyond me too but um Our IT
company who is new you know the past year is has been absolutely fantastic they've been making the upgrades we upgraded all of our firewalls across the entire town uh last year so I'll definitely bring that up with them yeah and happy to talk with those guys about that too when you when you when you get there yeah absolutely just so you know
um we already did move the financial yeah I see the cloud hosting for EDM y yeah so we are shifting some things to the cloud um again we could kind of skip to tax tax assessment um speaking with Angela we really just bumped up the
Professional Services line slightly $1,500 u based on her recommendations um all the rest is is pretty straightforward her association dues and and office supplies uh we'll skip to page seven is legal services uh we
did utilize about 10,000 more than we did last year hey come on can't you do do something but uh in in fairs there's you do something for us a lot going on we have a lot going on we did bump that up again for a request for 25 we do we have
a lot of Redevelopment things like that things with the water system so there there's a lot going on so we do give you entertainment here you got to do something for us appreciate all the services the burough attorney provides yes and our tax
yeah um Engineering Services uh did not change we're we're pretty right on with that number yeah um sorry Steve the uh outside litigation is that a retainer or is that just pay as we use for those things yeah it's just pay as we go um
you know for labor Council when we reach out so um planning board you won't see any change there uh last year we did raise this we did plug in 15,000 for redevelopment studies and and plans actually I think last year was just
Redevelopment study this year I just added plan kind of keeping that around that 15 Mark anticipating we're we're going to need to utilize that line again so I think keeping that nice and high where we were last year seemed to be about right and I think it'll probably be about right again this year
um skipping ahead to board of adjustment same thing no changes there 6100 um all depends on kind of what comes before the board uh construction code that was one I apologize did jump to the next page so
you'll see the total uh that is actually dropping too compared to last year which is nice that was High um so we implemented the Edmonds permitting platform um and and the hosting so now we're just on the hook for the hosting which dropped down I think the total was
around 14,000 somewhere last year um so that's nice just an update on that too um we've been having regular meetings um the the code office has been handling most of those all the data has now been migrated into to Edmonds into the
platform um so now we're actually looking to roll out officially I believe sometime in mid April they should be fully online throughout March there's going to going to be a lot of training sessions with the staff there to get used to that platform uh page 10 we jump into
insurance I think this is one that we still need to do some updates on we we don't have all these pieces together yet so I don't want to go too too much into detail on that one it's unlikely to go down uh no yeah I don't think we're
going to see a decrease managing expectations yeah um skipping ahead to the health benefits uh that number is accurate we just updated that today that 867 734 um some of the the numbers in
that um you know the group uh sorry the uh current cost of order of the library current fund employee contributions all those have been updated so that is up to date that's section um we're still need to just double check the dental um other than that it shouldn't change too much on the uh Group
Insurance the 24 numbers aren't on here is they were on a different line or yeah we just have to plug those in and confirm uh page 12 the health benefit waiver so due to the rising cost we actually saw uh a few more I think we
had five last year uh employees receiving the benefit waiver this year it's jumped up to eight um so you'll see a jump in that in the operating line but that's a good thing for us because it saves us on on the other side okay um jumping to 13
police so there's really there's nothing too surprising here um I will go down this number is going to go up a little bit um it's actually going to be closer to 90,000 let me pull up my sheet um but we're just we're playing
we're changing some of the lines around basically that make more sense they had some things that were getting charged to areas that really just didn't make too much sense so we want to create a new line specifically for training um I think they had the firearms and rifle training actually split and the firearms training
was coming out of equipment maintenance and I think the rifle training was coming out of new equipment so we're just trying to clean that up a little bit make it a you know a little more logical where things go um so those will will be in there but you can see the numbers Associated are accurate so firearms and rifle training is about
9,000 rifle training facilities about 7,000 and then we also want to create a new Traffic Safety line um within PD uh that's been a big push of theirs and a goal and I think it makes sense again they had kind of you know road flares cones calibration of the the feedback
signs and everything you know in new equipment and things like that it just doesn't make sense it's a regular occurrence so we want to create its own line for it so another 20K basically the bottom is going to be yeah I would say that's that's fair give me one second I can tell
better so we use a separate facility for the rifle training yeah so our pistol range is not long enough to qualify on the rifles yeah so I believe they go to uh actually I forget I wanted to say pamis but that's not it Ramsey R maybe Ramsey
yeah and I could double check on that but yeah B our our range is not suitable yeah when they redid the range they were thinking about making it longer but was no way you do that because then you would have the parking you would take away Park and then then you have to can figure out the uh yeah turn proper line
yeah it's pretty tight there um so yeah I have the total actually at 8685061 presentation uh I think it' feel more comfortable just because some of the information they want to present is sensitive in nature quite honestly and shouldn't fully be publicized um which is fair there's security reasons for
that so we're thinking maybe just starting um with the police and fire protection committee let them present there and then maybe kind of change things up with the presentation and then do a full Council presentation but I wanted to get everyone's feedback on that instead of just coming right out
with the whole Council um I know PD has definitely expressed some hesitation and concerns over just some of that information not trying to bring them in hide anything but there is some security issues a better alternative than the finance committee the public safety I'd
be just an advocate forward just have no come and talk to all of us without the public we could do that too just they comfortable however people want to do it if you want to have we could set up just smaller groups and they could come and kind of make their pitch
sensitive that would be fair okay yeah make the whole Council be a little earlier so well let them come at 6:30 and our meeting starts at 6:30 they do the presentation and they leave is that we can do that as a close that as a CL potentially do in close session or no just advertise you could you could you
advertise it so that it could be uh with the police I'd be curious I'd have to know exactly like what what they their concern is to see if it would be something that could be en close session okay very I mean it could be it could
very well could I think some of it would honestly fall under a contract negotiation we talk about that the safy uh committee seeing it first Mr Mayor sir if it's all right with you why don't I go over there talk to the folks see exactly what the issues are C back to
you go from you want to go now I want to go but not now sure yeah and if it has to be done like the attorney said we'll do it that way okay so is this budget including the items they want that they're going to present to us or no yes so everything in
here is is good um you will see on page 14 actually just skipping ahead a little bit for new the new recruit line is bumped up it's just about double uh from what it was so that would be the inclusion of an additional officer for all the academy supplies uniform stuff so that's what they're coming here
for yeah they their one of their main pushes is to get an additional officer on so we won't make a final decision until after we hear from them correct on this dollar value yep okay I just wanted to have those numbers in front of you so so
you're aware thank you yep and when you meet with them just make sure you tell them our when our next meeting is maybe they want to come then it's 25th okay I will if you want sure but I would have if if the Public Safety Committee wants to meet with them i' I'd
advocate for that absolutely I think it's worth it okay yeah I'll we'll get an email thread going and we'll talk and come up with the plan no worries we can do this and you will do it does this also include the discussion
that you're the board that regarding the safety officer no uh none of that is here as of yet just because we we don't have any details yeah there's there's a lot that goes into that discussion I I wouldn't feel comfortable just kind of throwing a number think we got an update
on anything right nothing no not yet okay I don't even think the police know about it I mean they know about it because of who sits on the board there but otherwise it's haven't been discussed okay there's just there's too many things to work out it's a lot of moving
Parts Steve just a question you know if we did add an officer is there additional car needs or we have enough I think we'd be all right carwise that's a a good question though I could follow up on we didn't add anything into the budget for that right I know the
actually and just to go back to the last meeting there was one question that came up during Capital what vehicle are we replacing um so it it's one of the tahos it's a 506 but their plan is to actually not just completely take it out of service and put that as a traffic
vehicle so it go on all the outside Road jobs things like that um and you know the the push for the new hire is to hire an actual traffic officer he would be dedicated to all FKS Trav could he be also put in school if we have
to no it be it'd be separate there' be some involvement with the schools potentially but not in that role got it um just diving into their their contracts line a little bit um you see kind of some of the things loss off reporting power DMS there's other ones
that are in bold those increase slightly just kind of the annual increases um you know I would say a couple $100 here and there nothing significant those are all kind of their their regular items in their budget Steve is a utiliz just not updated yet on this one or did we really
only utilize 58,000 um no that that's accurate that's accurate yeah so I mean these are not subject to change right these these numbers so we're just we're adding 25,000 extra yeah there's definitely c
in there you know they kind of leave it open to add new things um a lot they have included in capital because they're significant expenses for some of the platforms they're looking to do but you know as I mentioned they are trying to digitize and upgrade everything um and
quite honestly they're with some of the transition uh we had a retirement the end of last year they're finding a lot of things so they're still working through everything they don't even haven't uncovered everything on their end yet to be honest so
good clean up time for them as a department and just trying to streamline some services and some of these uh unfortunately some of these Services become inadequate or they're just not relevant anymore so yeah and actually some of that I believe was with the
accreditation which they haven't completely finalized so we do want to keep that just based on any recommendations that might come out of that okay um the pronouncements not a major impact that 675 under Professional
Services that we may actually change to the traffic line but that's kind of just a you know internal change and one thing the Dare and Lead lines uh one thing to note is we have received a significant amount of opioid money um from the national opioid
settlements that have been going on we do plan to offset some of that some of these costs some of the p cost and earmark some of that money maybe about5 $6,000 just for PD so they might not utilize all this line give them a little
cushion for public events and awareness issues um jump into 15 police cars uh we just have to take a an updated look at the trust and see where we're at but um you know only one vehicle right now we believe we're going to be able to fully finance that through the vehicle trust we just have to firm up that number uh
the all- in cost for the replacement vehicle is at 84 259 they're taking a different approach this year um it's slightly more expensive but they're sending it to one vendor one dealership for everything so that's all in they have the vehicle they
do all the upfitting so by the time we receive it it's ready to go and ready to hit the road um other times we get the car say in April then they send it to the upfitter which is all the way down in Burlington County it's sits there for months honestly uh before it's upfitted
and comes up so you know for a few extra dollars I say a few ex you know maybe five $7,000 um extra we actually get the car on the road a lot quicker and it's just a lot more efficient hey Steve yep how many cars do we have good question I'll have to get
back to you on that that sure the exact count rate 12 uh pistol range is just the Consortium cost uh which you'll see a slight increase we charge ourselves the same increase as all the other Consortium members which seems fair and reasonable
does it well just the the way it's kind of set up I guess um yeah for the host I I would anticipate that changing when we restructure that whole contract
but yeah we' see some benefit there yes good um so one to note actually uh have an update on this too the 911 services so we've been going with Central based out of of Bridgewood um we actually
just um met with the county on that and we're the county is going to start hosting our 911 uh dis dispatching Services it's really just a pass through so dispatch is still going to be at the public safety under PD this is literally just
the pass through for the 911 call so it's just a 911 call if you pick up in W and down 911 it goes to the county yes it go it goes to the right instead of going RW and then bouncing over now it's going to go to the county and and bounce but if you just call the PD directly that goes to PD correct it doesn't
include yeah if you call her not emergency line it's still our dispatch answering those calls okay a couple months in there yeah I'm going to be having that conversation with them this week uh we just firmed up the details Lieutenant CER and I last week on this um we're
pretty much ready to go we're looking at a March 4th I believe cut over date um counties on it they've done this a bunch of times I think he said they did you know seven or eight recently uh it's pretty much there should be no effect they do three different types of
test calls one from a cell phone one from a landline and then you know another one from a patrol vehicle just to make sure everything goes through if they're good then we're we're online so no effect to Residents so does that decrease the work for our dispatchers no
it's the the same workload it's really the same process this is really just a a pass through delays the 911 call what it does how much so confused if you call the 911 yeah it goes to someone else they take all the
information and then they call PB PD with you on the line and give them the same information that you told them so when you call 91 even now this is the way it's set up it goes to a dispatcher in Bridgewood okay they they take the call basically simultaneously as they're talking to the person if it's pretty
clear what it is they're already dispatching our guy so then it gets bumped to our dispatch and they put it out yeah so this instead of we're using the county correct and that's saving us money yes County's offering it free so we figured we'd take the opportunity to
make the charge okay thank you I'm please we're good with the how the county been operating it yeah absolutely especially with this we made sure to check I as PD just you talk to them figure it out make sure you guys are good with it and there's going to be no effect or changes and they're they're happy with
it so not a major savings but it's definitely a savings every penny every penny do a good job did you check with other towns that went on to the county any problems uh yeah we reached out to a couple most have also gone with their dispatching
their actual dispatching services so it's hard to get a true understanding of that there's some mixed feelings on that topic I know we talked about that last year um that is not being brought up at this time good um going on to the police training
facility um pretty standard here really just want to highlight the materials and supplies lines um we changed things up a little bit we Consolidated some lines mainly the Hazmat disposable uh disposal is the biggest jump uh just that cost the
vendor we were using just um increased their cost significantly I guess it's expensive to get rid of lead and it's not easy there's a lot of regulations around it so the costs have increased I think that probably went up a good $5,000 or so in that one um HVAC
maintenance and filters that was broken up into a few different lines so we just Consolidated it um it was HVAC and maintenance and then filters was another line we just combined them for the 8,500 total and then the targets uh just went up slightly to to, 1400 is the shift
between the miscellaneous repairs and the Hazmat line is that where it was before is that why I'm seeing utilized only 9,000 versus adopted 24 yes and then 17 yeah so some were just charged to the wrong line and then I'll just point out anything that's left over at
the end of the year once all the final bills are charged out um the money gets switched over to Capital uh into the capital reserve for any future projects for one year right no for this
it it it gets turned over to Capital and indefinitely and just so you know the um filters that's actually pretty high that we should see a drop there with the the new system that gets input not that it's going to make a difference with that big price tag but it is something to note
that we we're going through filters a lot quicker now than we have in years past um page 17 OEM um you'll see a decrease last year uh they requested a uh rack for the back of the OEM vehicle they purchased that um came in a little
bit under the 5,00 Mark so the training line was set at 1,500 they requested a increase of $500 this year for OEM training which seems reasonable wvac uh same no changes there it's really just their their standard
our contribution and then the clothing allowance when was the last time the clothing allowance went up they've been pretty good um yeah it's been a while I want to say I'd have to look back but it's been a long time maybe we should talk to came little something all right page 18 is fire um
not many changes uh really to note um I confirmed actually with the chief there was a larger number originally requested in they operating um but that was included um because they wanted you know they're they're still recommending or
planning that you know at some point going to County dispatch for fire dispatch only um I said that conversation is not being had right now so that one what line is it the contracts line was actually uh originally proposed at 25,000 we knocked
that 10 out so we're back at 15,000 where they've been um you know couple changes in some of their contractual items the fire police there's always been an issue with that they're part of the fire department and it's a responsibility of the chief with the fire correct that's overseen by the
chief okay good um yeah and that fire police line is bumped up a little bit that's really just for equipment jackets vests safety vests things like that uniform seems to be the biggest line jum there yeah so in years past if
you go back prior years by ordinance the max amount is set at that 225 number um last year they and actually I believe in 23 also they only utilized um you know around 15,000 or so so we actually we cut that line down last year um they
requested just to keep that 225 number in there since that is the max amount you know not necessarily going to utilize all that amount um maybe I'll get a check so but they they are plugging that back in just to have it in there and and
maintain that okay the other thing that the department would like to do is have some talks uh regarding the uh stiens that they get the officers get at the end of the year um the current structure has been in effect for 15 years um it might be time
to take a look at that and maybe uh boost them up a bit and that could be where some of those dollars are going to go we could also do to council and mayor say to what we could do to council and mayor too okay with the
thought um fire hydrant Service uh is is standard that's no change there um going to fire prevention you'll see they they're requesting uh a slight increase uh mostly in the materials and supplies so
they want to get more fire prevention and educational materials than they have in the past um just more giveaways kind of kind of beef up what they have for you know um for fire prevention week and and some public events um one thing to note is there are grants for that um
that have been successful in getting in the past we reached out to the one company it's an insurance company that offers that Grant they restructuring the grant program right now it's a rolling Grant so we said you know we signed up to be informed uh still feel confident we could probably get about you know I'd
say $2,000 $3,000 for the fire prevention material so we could probably keep that pretty low um we just don't know right now until they restructure that program um also in materials and supplies is the computer uh ESP is new
platform that they purchased last year um which has been working out great so that just helps them track all their inspections again puts it in an online portal and platform uh for them they've been very happy with that so the annual fee for that now is uh the
2265 um and then the other increase you'll notice is really in the uniforms um it's been a while I I guess since they bought new uniform so they're looking to get more um you know Class A type formal uniforms to wear out when
they're they're doing inspections and and public events $1,500 worth of uniforms they're pretty expensive uh some of the some of the work shirts the sweatshirts even that they want Swit without any insas on from 56 to 1500
they are they're they're oddly expensive I agree with you but they are expensive what brand do they get yeah I mean even on the DPW side when we get uniforms it's the same thing I mean they're just specialized material the quality they're not cheap yeah yeah and I'll be honest M
no matter who you go to all the same I bought I bought really nice uniforms for my company for $35 this year embroidered so for what it's worth it exists it does and we we could look these are kind of special specialized
uniforms Class A type shirts that you see you know police and firew wear they probably want to change the style it's blue right now right yeah does it have to be specialized like it fits in line with the fire service I would say which which makes sense they
do represent the town yeah I mean yeah they they previously were I I'll know they were going out in fire department t-shirts um which I do not advise you know they are members of the fire department but they're not there on behalf of the fire department they're
behalf of fire prevention in the bur so police me too yeah I got to buy my own clothes yeah we're we're all Wear Burgundy sport jackets I told you you don't listen I'm going to buy that before I
leave 20 years from now we're all going to we have burgundy sport jacket all right jump into uh page 21 the street and Road um not much of a change here um you'll see there was probably just some
lines I think that we found where there was items just charged to the wrong line so the amounts don't really change line by line you might notice some changes but really the total is uh just about the same is that why the the drain and Basin and the trench and I know we did a lot of pole work this 460 bucks is that
like probably in something else yeah I think what we found was a lot of it was Stone so they they went through a lot of stone this year and I think we just found it was really being charged to the wrong line um and we made note and you know let Mike know too that it really
needs to be charged to that road material line we will have a new employee who's going to be yeah processing all the requisitions for DPW going forward the road material line yeah QP so it was being charged to the
materials and supplies line yeah mostly QP yeah it's a premium um and then just you know the boots and gloves boots and gloves line was uh contractual was was bumped up so we included that uh it was previously
325 per employee I believe and we agreed to $500 which actually allows them to buy much better boots um and part of the contract negotiations was we'll give you more for the boots but they have to be seel toe or the uh composite toe for for
better safety so um and we actually just implemented the Boot Mobile so that they had their first visit to DPW last week two weeks ago I think um the boots come to them so the boots come to them it's a little mobile unit they go in see all the
displays they can actually try everything on they have socks some of the jacket accessories no sport jackets but I I heard from the guys they all loved it actually most of the guys ended up buying their boots directly from there they got two pairs of really good high quality boots it's like can't
get a your dog get a haircut really that's I like no I like that idea they come to you I like that well so we were finding they're ordering them from all over the place even Amazon and we found some of the orders were coming with two left feet and things like that so we decided to try and get
away from that get some higher quality boosts give them better protection good yeah overall definitely a win for them yeah um snow removal note on this one um just the purchase of all of our our salt
calcium calcium pellets um and then our our kellc payments now we still deal with the Allen though right yeah we're still storing our salt right right um we've used a lot of salt I'll I'll note this season already we've had a much more
active season than we have in years past so um but we do have we have a healthy snow trust also and I believe any unused money out of operating gets put into the trust is that right coling on new salt money on new salt money yeah and I think we're
just going to rename it currently it's this the snow trust but we're going to just call it the storm trust because it gets utilized know if there's a a hurricane or heavy flooding event anything like that okay um all right skipping ahead to 23 pretty straightforward with these These
are updated numbers the parking ride uh no change and the traffic control devices is actually just bumped up slightly based on our usage from last year we Kelly can talk to it but last year we didn't have to get new permits for a parking ride because we use a
permit for three years and so the we just had a meeting the other day and Kelly and Melissa are going to go through with that same process but this year we're due for the new hanging tag so there'll be new colors and then we just invest every year on a sticker that we put on as we issue them uh telling
the the officers very clearly when that um Park and Ride Pass expires so that's why you see it wasn't utilized last year but we're due for it uh this is year four and so we buy it all in one shop for the three
years and we are having discussions on that revisit the parking ride and our options and possibly utilizing we do have Park Mobile in town already so we want to leverage that a little bit more so might see this line kind of go away in the future at some point yeah
depending upon what Transit lets us do yeah we get ka's parking lot that's right cannot wait officially going it we already voted on it Corner yeah it's cute uh page 24 is our solid waste
collection uh this say contract ual so that does reflect those numbers are are 2025 numbers when's that up for uh 29 I believe 202 through 2029 or Years
Years um we did it in 222 yeah yeah so 27 I think for the next exactly it's yeah uh not seen numbers in other towns or you know 300%
increases in cost so have they talked anything more about shared services from the county on garbage it it comes up every now and then um I don't know how feasible it's actually be we talked to them last with the May and yeah they
handle that like they handle deer good point it's a it's a tough one to try and crack that's right unfortunately I mean there are some options it's just that the people in Wald won't look fair you can go to once a week garbage and then
just do twice a week during for Memorial Day to Labor Day that'll save you a ton of money yeah um just that alone um so it just it just really depends yeah it's it's a lot of convenience unfortunately so I think Mark was talking about too a
composting program which could save some tonage on that yeah it's definitely something we've been kicking around a little bit I don't think is this the one Challen I mean food waste accounts for about 30 to 40% of our garbage so I mean if you
could kind of take some of that out it it would help um there are some challenges with at mity yeah it's like okay then we're going to charge you higher tipping fees because the 21 counties uh we're going to lose revenue on tipping well than your other tipping
fees are going to go up yeah so it's like it's a double s until the state does something that makes it feasable for the counties then it's tough tough on to do I know there have been some towns recently that
started to bring it back inhouse I don't think we would be a good fit for that to be honest Pi yeah there's there's very few that do it that's a that's a lot there's a ton of insurance cost liability costs that come with that and then just the
initial set up garbage trucks are expensive yeah staff challeng yeah I will say that g it is a pleasure to work with oh yeah abely they're responsive um I could say from the time I started here until
now the the um complaints have gone down good um so for what that's worth not that that justifies this number but I'm just you know we don't have as many people calling to complain so yeah they're great company very responsive
very responsive to us personal relationships with Kelly and I in the office we can pick up the phone in a second they have somebody actually I mean compared to where I was before it's unbelievable how quickly they get in touch with the guys in the truck for us that's good that's good yeah I have to
agree that where I was previously we didn't have the relationship that you guys have very personable and very responsive I know as a resident they they take the garbage they're respectful to people's things the guys are friendly they y you know they they seem to keep
the town nice they don't swing the garbage cans all over the place so that's helpful within days they did behind the mun yes when I called for those bins we had them within days whether they're being utilized or
not I can't tell you but they're supposed to be got them and I will not the Garbage Contract is a publicly bid contract so we don't control who bids on those so if there's only one bidder it is what we're subject to but also Steve U our new employee
who's coming into the DPW has some experience with education M um in her previous town she did a lot of um well a larger program where they were tagging residents cans and what they were putting out and they had a really good feedback on it and so that's something
that maybe we can look at too it's just educating residents on what you should be putting in your can versus what you shouldn't and um the feedback for them was great something they're going to continue every year so and I also know that Gada will come and do a whole demonstration for
you as well as to what should be and what shouldn't be in your garbage and how to do it um they did that in wof uh they might have done it in Frank LS um and that was also well received and then you put it on the website so then it's
there that's true even if they have a video already like just you know even if it's from another some municipalities like well offer or give out garbage cans because of the size of garbage can type thing that where people are talking about oh
they only take two cans but they're not putting big enough cans out there or whatever what is that kind of program does that come from the G or does that come from I think most of those where you're referring to is I mean some towns might just give them out but some are the standard cans
for the the type of trucks so you know they're called the one arm Bandits they have to be certain size and set up so you have to give them out to your that's what they use yeah hack doesn't cuz they use an arm that comes out and actually the can actually getting out of the
truck it's one of those big Square yeah they're nice cans and some of our residents use them the issue is if you're filling up a very large can they're really heavy so that's something we always tell people 50 lbs 50 gallon limit make sure they can get them in the
96 gallon they can't lift that those are design keep going right that's um all right we'll move on to 25 uh bins and grounds a slight increase this is one where we kind of just we try and keep some buffer in there and keep it nice
and healthy we did luckily it was healthy for us this year because we ran into some surprises and and major Replacements with the HVAC system specifically um so we feel pretty good about this one the way it's proposed
I don't know if anyone has any questions recommendations all right uh vehicle maintenance and the garage again this is another one um that we keep pretty healthy and and high so as long as we could make this work we'd like to keep that high right now um you
know on we have one staff on our DPW that really does an amazing job and helps us with a lot of the PMS on all our vehicles Vehicles not just DPW um all the police and even our fire trucks he usually gives it a first look and if it's something too specialized we'll
call someone in or send it out but um he he's a huge asset to us uh Public Health Services um which is nice you will actually see a decrease in this line um so we have to rework this whole
session a little bit because they've combined all these Services into just the one contract now so they don't break out nursing services and register our services anymore it's all just built into the contract um so with that and some changes it it actually went down you
know about $3,000 or so um animal control that is staying the same I'm sorry eliminating the nursing line stage 2,000 what is that so it's not actually saving us 32,000 it's just included in that overall cost used to be
separate now it's not um the other you know administration of Public Assistance I don't know if colen you have anything to add that's really just a a placeholder in case we need it you put yeah any kind of major
disaster or whatever you put it you going to for us but it line a placeholder for it um Parks and Recreation um let's see I have to update the utilize line actually sorry I don't know why that's not filled in um but we
could do that for you um again our our concerts parades the bus trips for seniors um our Edmonds portal for the pool registration is in there the supplies is mostly all the U Pool Supplies chemicals is a big one so
that's the biggest one it keeps going up we use a lot of chlorine we used a lot of chlorine last summer um it was a very hot summer so we burned through a lot more chlorine so we're just trying to pad that a little bit more to account for that um and this is just the pool so
we have a lot of chlorine that we use for the water department also but this line is strictly for pool court um not much of a change there we really just bumped up The Interpreter line we we've been using that a lot more we bumped it up a little bit last year
actually uh to the five uh as you can see we utilized over eight so we wanted to bring that up to about 85 just to account for that increased utilization other than that everything else hasn't really changed um same public
defender um so we could skip ahead to utilities that utiliz have to get updated or we for which ones yeah yeah we could change those just not um that has an increase to
oh wow I believe the same with the judge too now she got a raise she got a raise last year yeah yeah she got was appointed um U toes is a big one um all the street lighting electricity natural
gas uh this is where we do like to keep things a little bit higher and and have some buffer built in there um we do utilize this we did hit it for some transfers this year but really there it wasn't that much that I could get out of
there yeah we we actually cut out a lot last year out of a lot of these where we like to keep some padding we cut them down already um so yeah there wasn't too much you can see the unmetered street lights we were pretty much right on with that one yeah
[Applause] uh just our our waste disposal cost that's set um we could jump to public events uh again the seasonal decorations the tree lighting is where most of that is I think that was a little
bit I think we I guess we kept it right we um we bought some new decorations last year we bought a few more this year oh Kelly you want to jump in on that one tana you take money out of mine no we we already bought some things
but that's really a lot of that line is also for the the lighting of our buildings so the installing those and then taking that down is quite costly um it looks awesome but it's it's quite costly so that's a lot that's actually a
lot of that budget yeah we own the lights but we uh hire to install and take them yeah I want to say it's like $99,000 or something3 8400 the DPW can't do it
no yeah it does it does involve some electrical work and it's a high know special equipment it go yeah absolutely give me this one Katie no I'm not taking from you no I know no it's a it's pretty
specialized I mean they go up there with special equipment they're you know they're they're train and they know how to do it okay we did send Kelly up in the cherry picker one year to put the bow at the top of the uh tree but we learned leave that to the
professionals like I thought it was great listen I thought Marcus was going to have a heart attct cuz he was like one one year we had a man from the fire dep upon wanted to do the tree outside the uh Library so he started going like this with it and he realized he's not going to be able to do it so next thing you know he went up and
down it was horrible like a heartbeat up and like oh God but those are really the only decorations we haven't there's anything else we're buying that's really for hopefully we can offset some things with yeah the public events obviously is
the Christmas tree lighting um you know we rent a porta potti we do there there are some additional items that we do the DJ but we were really successful this year in getting sponsors to cover most of those um but they're just it's never you know a guarantee it's also our horse
and Cat a big hit Santa's arrival on the horsing car that's also in there so we're doing a lot with that that's okay it looks good looks great would you like to give us more money for that one we can we can spend it well why
don't you give them more so they don't take it out of my budget oh we always take from his we ask now you don't you just say this what I'm doing so I won't say we went yeah we want a light up float parade on White's pond on fireworks fireworks would be great
fireworks expensive we have the swan ladies with the they're dancing a there West AE that probably adds about another $30,000 to it but yeah fireworks are expensive and honestly one of our issues
is where to set them off you could have a bonfire and burn a gazebo yeah too close to everybody yeah going to be hard I don't think you're going to be able to do it in fail in court I think the neighbors will be perfectly fine with it nice big
ground water um so we'll jump to some of the the fun stuff is the pension and social security uh my computer is dying um colen just updated we just updated these
today this evening um so you'll see for the P RS we actually saw a decrease which is fantastic but we did see an increase in the pfrs which is the you know police retirement system for police and
fire um going down so these next ones we still have to update so we'll get better numbers for you on these for the sewer treatment the grant numbers the updated grant numbers um and then the emergency special emergency Appropriations
Steve on the grants did we budget for a third party this year for Grant applications um no so that is actually one thing I want to bring up um thank you for noting that actually because I wanted to put that I guess probably under Administration um haven't plugged
that in haven't found a good home for it yet uh the proposal we received was for $330,000 so it's it's decent chunk um that that's basically just a retainer fee for that's their annual fee we have them researching everything for us they'll write them you know start to
finish um they also offer the one company that gave us that proposal um they have a platform where you know it's not just the up to award it's post award also um tracking and management system so be nice to give that a shot this year
we'll make sure to have that included for the next next round do we know what typically know you invest 30,000 what return is from yeah I you know what I'll I'll send out the proposal again they have all that listed out um you know yeah and what
they've done in other towns you know we really just want to make sure to go beyond just the the dot and the cdbg kind of those those Aid programs and see what else they could really capture for us so yeah I mean for $30,000 investment we could be looking at you know millions
of dollars in grant money so it's it's most likely we yeah um yeah we can skip over the next few sections uh and jump to water [Music] [Applause]
water um yeah most of these numbers are pretty solid we do have to um meet with Colleen on a couple things we had a couple questions with the meter gun cont ract and upgrading of of readers um we're also looking to purchase a lot of meters this year is that correct Colleen
yeah what happened is uh all all the remote meters were installed basically within a year year and a half of one another and they did the whole town and the uh battery life uh is anywhere from
like 18 to 20 years and they're all starting to go now that's for the radio yeah so the the last quarter uh we had 200 that we read is this the first time you've had to replace a big batch like that since
the installs I'd say the past year so close they've been they've been failing is that only failing and each quarter it's getting more and more cuz you when they when they originally did the upgrade that was all done they did the whole town at one time
right okay so you'll start to see the Cascade um one thing underwater in know under postage you'll see a decrease um it's actually good we are done with the posos filters so we were required to do those quarterly mailings we no longer
have to do that that was a pretty significant cost so a little bit of savings there at least I'm sorry know you said the skip but on page 36 y outstanding note interest that line
doubles this year that so these are not accurate numbers yeah not accurate okay we're roll are we rolling a band this year or is that next year the bond the bond yeah next year next year yeah that'll go up a lot next year water we're
missing the change over G replacement for G yeah um unfortunately we don't have a solid number yet to plug in there and there's going to be haat going we actually feel good about this
year um getting getting by we don't think CU because they just got installed so we think we'll be all right um our Engineers have been going back and forth they've actually been taking trainings on this too because they don't know the best option so they are trying to pull together solid pricing for so we could
at least try and and put that together the Hazmat fees could be around 27 to 3500 per T yeah you're probably looking at two or three tons per per filter that can be some serious feeds we're trying to get by it extends
the life if we backlash frequently it keeps things moving which we are doing so again I think we'll be all right this year but next year we'll we'll see that included um and it rough numbers like 120,000 to 200,000 depending on which option you go with
so you could do just full replac they take it out and give you new or there's a model where you they take it they actually bring it to a facility clean it wash it repurpose it and then bring it back I talked to Ridgewood today just
cuz they come in by us sometimes and they they've done a couple of theirs done the swap out okay of their of theirs they have the same brand that we have so they have the all the gag filters okay yeah so maybe I don't know if you have anybody can talk to there just see if you can get a feel for it we
have a pretty good relationship with uh Bridgewood water actually so yeah okay um and then that actually brings us to the end where we're at right now anyone have any general comments questions
concerns obviously we'll we'll tighten things up um kind of update everything get the solid numbers in we'll have the full-blown binders and budget books we'll have the updated Capital sheets ready for you by the next one we have the full summary page of like total
numbers rolled up yeah we should have everything rolled okay even if you have it done like a day or two before we I can swing by and pick it up yeah that's the goal put you know I don't want to I'm not trying to put any yeah no obviously we want to get it to you ahead of time not just you know first time of
Mee well if they're delivering shoes at a dvw but they just delivered the packet to us we'll get the boot tra in minutes right they used to have that yes go one woman used to deliver the the packets yeah well during Co um Joyce was
delivering the zoning one of our zoning Stu for the house she would leave it at the door yeah yeah we had the which was great yeah we had the lady that used to be Paul's assistant she used to go around on Friday afternoon until she got chased by a door that was the inter Office Mail the pony was just like a
courier okay um comes to the point of the meeting Public's comments anybody from the public actually I had few other old business things to address so um so last week we or two weeks ago time we we discussed the the traffic study um did
everyone have a chance to look at that in detail again I think the recommendations are fantastic in this side of town I I think it's about 150,000 for an engineer to kind of come in and look at what the implementation would be and then an additional I think
the total cost was like 650,000 there's uh I they they come up with great names for these things but the they they narrow the street a little bit they raise the the crosswalks uh they don't call them speed bumps anymore they I don't know what the heck they call them
but I I mean it is a comprehensive plan and I just think I I go for runs on this side of town and you put your life at risk when you're going down NM or down C Central with the way the cars are speeding um my in-laws live on Bergen a and it it looks like Route 17 during
rush hour traffic it is it is horrendous so uh we we last last two weeks ago we did the capital budget we came in 600,000 less than the the goal which is great so there's some room I would really Advocate uh looking at all those
measures so I don't know what the process is at this point if we need a roll call for support to add that into the capital for the engineer because they they said the next step is an engineering assessment yeah so I say definitely looking for Fe back um what
I've been working with PD on is some I guess low hanging fruit so simpler equipment so increasing our LED signage around town more speed feedback signs speed limit signs flashing stop signs pedestrian signs things like that to draw more attention we kind of thought
that as phase one um you know much there's definitely an expense to that which was kind of planned for in the capital uh discussion around 25,000 um so you know if we want to do kind kind of a more robust Traffic Safety plan we can definitely look into that if if we're willing to include it
check with Cel though I'm not so sure study okay so we have the study so now I think we're looking towards actually the implementation phase of it so yeah you could do you know the painting The Bump outs at certain intersections yeah they
I'd really advocate for looking at that study again because we spent a lot of taxpayer money on that study and it really just fell flat and nothing happened so I think it's important that we I'll review it do we put any pieces of it in in nothing nothing as far as I
know yeah I mean some it's more the signage and years ago or it was 23 2 two years ago okay I mean in In fairness we changed for administrators there's a lot just got hand off but yeah yeah I I
think it's a beautiful comprehensive plan I would love to see another study on other sides of town that look at that as well because it just gave us a really good idea what are the problematic streets what are the problems that are uh you know is it speeding they call it speeding versus racing we actually have
some streets where they're they're classifying the cars as racing I guess it's 10 miles an hour over I don't know but I'm assuming the PD looked at that study too they reviewed it all they were on the meeting yeah now is that something we can pursue with
our money available for that most likely yeah I want you ber Mike runs there and he knows when you get the Bergen you got to stop because people just go you have to look yeah Bergen is I live on that side of
town Bergen is the first street that when you go on wavs or any of those apps that gets you to Route 1 people fly through all the St I remember when when Patrick was still here there was a talk conversation about um contacting like go
Maps or ways and having certain routes removed like keeping them on the main road so that they come down Prospect and go instead of cutting through these residential areas I don't know what whatever was the there was a request made
and I could even reach out to Patrick and see if he tried he did I can't say it would go anywhere but it's shot right like I don't know if what happened what was the update with you know if it went flat if they were like no we're not
bothering listening to you I don't know yeah but I think we we could definitely use grants for the implementation but but in the interest of trying to move something forward I would love to throw into our capital budget the money for engineers to look
at what implementation would actually cost because this is just an estimate right what they gave us it wasn't I think it it used historical data but it by no means is perfect and yeah I just I just don't want to wait honestly it's it's a real issue I think you know
obviously you all live here too so for me yeah I think it'd be helpful can reshare it and maybe just everyone come back with you know maybe pick out your highlights um that's kind of what we did with PD was you know based on the study what do you guys feel what do they see out in the field what are your
recommendations we did Pitch that with some additional stop signs that weren't really outlined in the study they came back and said it doesn't really warrant additional stop signs in certain locations so I guess we really just need to have that discussion where do you want to focus on and start to lay it out
well when I was reading through that study I think and I just brought it back up while we're sitting here they were talking about if you put too many stop signs yeah causes an inverse correct the opposite which is weird but it really
does have that does happen I also think that there's a need for some that aren't in place today correct especially down by try P it anytime after 2:00 in the afternoon get out of the way yeah I have
to C right here 8:00 in morning yeah crazy people and something's going to happen eventually matter time the other thing the study did I think really well is lay out a
non a way to stop entering an ESS on to throughout 17 while also allowing for trash trucks and uh police and fire trucks and everything else to be able to get through it I I am I I I I go to
ramsy for to the 24-Hour Fitness if you can tell but uh when I come back at night the amount of near misses from people pulling out from those streets on to 17 they're trying to go from 0 miles an hour to let's be honest everyone
drives 65 70 m an hour on 17 and man the amount of times you almost rear end them and then as they're trying to pull on to Bergen AV or or or one of these streets the the the accidents that they almost cause coming to a complete stop onto Route 17 while they're trying to turn
off is is also insane and and I imagine as they're pulling on to those roads they're also going 35 40 mil an hour so if there's kids I mean who who could let their kids play out there but if there are I just think yeah it's it's waiting
I think is just is is playing with fire at this point so yeah I would love to have this conversation next at the next meeting if if everyone has a chance to review it it'll be on Facebook does everyone have that plan do we you want me to reshare it sure again fresh and
let the police know we're doing this too yep you bring them in even as part of the discussion maybe see if they can attend absolutely that's another thing you could do Andy anyone else from the Cil one other thing we we also discussed last week or
two sorry two weeks ago was this the resolution for the uh the the Sewer Authority I mean I get that they're going to put hydrogen sulfide sensors out there but I don't need anyone to tell me that it smells anymore it smells every day horrendous today just you go
get a slice of pizza and you got to deal with you know exactly what you're smelling you know what it is uh it's not going away these are open air sewage tanks in town uh I strongly support I I think we need another approach I think we need a more forceful approach I I think we need to pass a resolution I
think the town needs to work on a petition I think we need we need to bring them to the table tell them Our intention let them respond to it was the petition done by the resident no I think we're waiting for a resolution to be passed so that petition can reference I
thought the resolution was that we that there was an agreement with the petitioner not I mean we we we we can there's no P the petition usually the residents do the petition let the residents do the petition but we'll do a resolution the residents can do a petition supporting the resolution well
I would I would feel comfortable doing the resolution after I read the petition well the resolution was written and it just basically says it basically says that SM but but the resolution basically says the SE Authority smells right in in
no uncertain terms we want as a burough Council something to be done and it's very concrete and the public can in parallel say we support this resolution yeah the governing body and W needs to be more aggressive here and changing this because this is crazy this is
absolutely we we're we have to do something here I mean I can't even walk outside of my house now without smelling open air sewage tanks in the middle of winter what is going to happen when it be when it's 80 degrees out this summer there's something going on down there so
I I mean we can change the language in the resolution but I would Advocate absolutely getting more aggressive getting our assembly and State uh Representatives involved and and and I mean they need to know we mean business here I I just don't think that this this
slow P this slow walking is is going to get anything done yeah I would Advocate against waiting for the public to bring a petition right because we hear from people all the time correct and we all feel the same way about it so I'd like to get something moving as fast as we can so we need the petition first no
against I don't think we need a petition first like what's the point of a petition if everybody's coming and complaining and we all smell it I there I we need I would have the I would feel more comfortable with the petition may I ask why because that's the way that you do it otherwise and all the complaints we do we we do resolutions on but
wouldn't it just be a resolution that all of us agree that it smells and we want to do something about it so why we need a petition well I I just don't think that would be the way to handle it right now but aren't we all elected to help yes the issues in help that's what the petition would show just like HCA Park is doing did the petition to see if
we need a new another crossing guard and they came with a very concise plan I feel that it's my job to represent the residents and if I've heard from the residents why am I going to tell them understand that I would try to have a conversation with the Sewer Authority first we have been trying for years we
have been trying for years they don't listen we the residents everyone's Eric Eric La comes three times the past two weeks and I got shot down talking to Mr John shut down they're going to do what
they want when they want where they want it's up in I I said why can't citizens from wck come to the me and I was shot down again that I'm not mentioning names
but there was some people on the council that said they're not important enough to that's exactly I'm sorry they that someone on the council said what they're not important to come what who's not important to come citizens
from w i i don't understand what you mean we wanted to go to the meetings that are you talking about are you talking about the Sewer Authority meeting correct no no no to the meetings that the mayor and councils from the local went to they're not important
enough to come and I had people that witness I had pH on speaker and I someone said that last the last meeting there was other from not just this Council from other towns and I had he was said John you're on speaker I said
okay and then when we went to a meeting that's all I don't know anything about that stuff right I don't know anything about that any yeah that I don't that I don't know anything about
liaison there is no there is no liaison currently down there that's what Kelly said last meeting you need a lion yeah but who from the council no I said you needed to we need a member we need a board member we need a seat on that board I I said I submitted the
paperwork in for it so they're not they're not listening told all respect I mean I just sent it in yesterday I don't think they're going to work on it tonight if I don't hear from them by Monday I'm going to call well Tuesday I'll back my kidneys are coming out the 28 which is yay y
so I have to take my name off from there oh I got you all right no problem and the last thing about this Sor two weeks ago they came up we got to know who to call Two Gentlemen came up very very nasty they walked down what would you
smell none of your not the hell we heard that yeah okay you know what they said they walked away I said well you got six people out here that smell should we call all night you can call we're not answering and U why don't we bring
danubio in here Mr danubio in here to talk to us yeah but but I would like you know try to get uh enough people to come to you're you're all over Facebook asking people will come look who's here and that's helpful with the petition too yeah see so then people know that it's a
that it's a thing that that there's a petition I believe is as Mike said you got to get you people you are aware of what's happening this smell if you guys back us we're going to go out four Force exactly um
because we already said I already talked to the bagel store Dunkin Donuts okay the market and have them sign that they can sign a petition for it too but if you I want you guys to agree that we're going to do this yeah not you know oh
yes yes no no no no no you know I I I don't see the downside in submitting a resolution to say it smells it's got to be fixed we all know it smells we all know needs to be I mean it's stunk tonight what it's terrible I go to dialysis like I said4 to 5 in the
morning it stinks and you can see the smoke coming you know and he Mr it's too too much money to put the U does over you know when they wanted to do it was 2 million now it's like six we don't have
the money we spend five for pfas filters they can't spend $10 million to to cover yeah I mean just a recommendation is do we want to try and hear from them directly before we take any form action I we triedit we tried I think we've
tried for years I'm done I'm sorry to interrupt I'm I'm done I mean I would love I would more than I'd be more than happy to speak to them well then bring in to bring in the resolution know we just resolution no I know you just we just became a friend with and now we're going to destroy it by I mean they're
watching this tape which none of us care maybe yeah let us bring him in let him sit here with us and tell us what he wants to do all right he could have done that years ago they could have done that years ago no I I excuse me come on I was there we've been listening to people
come and say that they and how many of them went to the meeting to what meeting he just said that they they're L to what meeting didn't you just say oh I went there public meetings there too I went yeah all right
so I went I support the resolution you support the resolution me too other people do not I don't know who the liaison is Mr Mayor who's the liaison now I'm not going to get involved with this right now because this looks like it's going to be a battle between this side to that side and then tomorrow morning everything will be over worldwi
un out and all over Facebook and then we're going to destroy our relation this is an issue that's important to the residents it is very important I know it's important and we're not doing anything about we are doing something what are we doing we're not doing nothing I didn't waste my time going there today I went there with a purpose and the purpose is to try to get this
thing solved and to be very honest with everybody and I'll be to the gentleman to say it everybody's saying we should get support from the local people let's wait till after the primary and see what happened everybody jump yes it is it is absolutely I've asked Mr art to come and talk to me he never did Mr art as the
coun next to you whatever his name is I how many times I asked him to come and talk to me about this and he never did well we got to push him harder this is not political and I was called that none of the people on the board down there get paid at all that I you know that I don't
and none of them live in wal one did she she left forever reason and they're looking for somebody as I said I put people's nam in again I can't do I no I appreciate that I I would love to I mean I mean I try with the names I don't
think it's going to happen because they do I mean I've been doing I've been sending people in there I brought I asked for Frank McKenna when he was alive they they rejected him there was another gentleman Italian gentleman that used to be radi no no no
after him uh he went down every meeting not Bob radi no but again there's no plan on getting you uh yes everybody here sign it that you guys uh back us up the town please
both well let's have a vote yeah I wanted to be on record that this is the right strategy at this point I sat here for 3 years listening to Mr leaport make complaints over that 3year period I obviously didn't take as much attention to it because I didn't smell it but for
the last 6 months I've been smelling it non-stop so it's very now it's very important to me I get it it's important to you if I'm smelling it everybody else around me is also smelling it the restaurant say it's the leaf P There's No Leaf pip and we all smelled it at the 911
ceremony yes and I don't need an H hydrogen sulfide sensor to tell that they're smelling in the air they're going to spend the next 3 months measuring hydrogen sulfide then they'll tell us it's not high enough to do anything can I ask Craig a question
may I ask you may oh mayor sure what's can we do anything about this you know just the governing body here start it then bring it to the people as a petition is that the right
step yeah I think there's a comment about having a resolution to support a petition for the residents or to direct the S authority to do something it's whatever the council
wants to do they they can no because again the money again raising our fees you know I just understand that it's I mean like I live 200 yards from there and it the mayor's been there it's
thanks all right but thanks to everybody good luck with your uh situation thanks same prayer okay so no no resolution no roll call nothing we're just going to let this die on the vine it's not dying in the vine no we spoke with them today
let's see what happens we're going to call Mr Mr duo in and we'll see what he has to talk to us about two weeks ago when we raised the resolution no one had any issue no push back nothing the resolution was no actually I did have a push back on it because the resolution when Mr leapor asked about doing a
petition I said yes you can use petition.org to do the petition and then I get in my email the resolution I never said we were doing a petition the buau is not in the doesn't do petitions everyone else that's ever come with us with an issue has done the
petition themselves Okay so I'm I'm fine with anybody doing a petition and presenting it to us but I don't want to do a resolution until I they read the petition because we're doing a res we putting the C before the horse why don't we why don't we pull the petition out of the resolution and just have it say
Sewer Authority smells something needs to be done about it it wasn't it's not it's not on the agenda no but but we can put it on the agenda for next the next meeting put on the agenda for next so it'll be on the agenda for the next meeting a resolution stating in so many words the Sewer Authority smell something needs to be done and we'll
vote on it well we read it and you have to you might have to take out the about asking all the towns to help because you you didn't ask no other towns to help you with this so before we do that to protect ourselves we have to either ask the towns or just worry about it as ourselves worrying about it because we
are the town that has the authority in here I think it's better off we coming from us us if we're going to do it we don't need anybody else to help us from other towns you know what what would maok care they don't yeah but Ridgewood it probably affects I'm sure they're
right there Midland Park it probably Ridgewood they say what did they say today one complaint not many complaints from other towns one complaint from Rood we asked about the complaints and he he was breaking us breaking it down about the
town I'm sorry I see a lot of aus ESP the guys yeah and I said you know you guys smell this he goes yeah what do you do we don't have anything documented there and I and I guarantee if some of the
residents there probably don't even callot well I know one that does you for sure right on the I know where it is here thanks again I ask a question um in order for a petition to start no one
needs Council permission to start a petition no so any I think we would all gladly support um a resolution saying that the place stinks but can someone start like can one of us start a petition or
does it need to be a resident to start the petition if if we're allowed I'd be happy to start it you guys you guys are you as well as being Council people council members you guys are all residents of the burrow okay you can do whatever you want as an individual as
long as you make it clear to whatever organization president you're doing that you're doing this on your own behalf until there's a formal resolution or something that authorizes the you know the governing body is a majority of the governing body
but as an individual it's like going to the sord author FR had this discussion with somebody else not in this town they went to a public meeting when they go to a public meeting and speak they have to say they're speaking on their own behalf not on behalf of the governing
body that they presenting because it can be taken the wrong way if they speak at a public meeting and they don't make that clarification so anybody on this Council can do something as an individual because you are residents of the town but you just want to make it clear that
you're doing this on your own behest not at the behest of the governing body or until a resolution is passed with the concurrence of the majority of the governing body okay thank you for their procedural update just think we needed to start
thank we have a we have a starting place so so what do we stand I want clarification because of what the resol the redraft of the resolution should say from that you that the that the majority
of the governing body wants into that resolution because of what happened and the the blowback that I received right well if you could just get rid of the the other tals that are in there to put down W because it's you know I feel
it's our responsibility it's our our residents and I mean where's the other Town SC they don't personally I would like whatever the petition is I'd like to read it before because you can say whatever you want in the petition and then we're saying we agree with it before we read the petition okay but
we're taking that out we're taking that out of the resolution the petition aspect well maybe we'll have a petition by that maybe we will but we have no resolution to so the idea was to have a resolution and then have a petition support the resolution right now I'll go
work with Mr leaport on drafting a petition as a as a private citizen and we have to come up with our own language I think there was a miscommunication on that perhaps but I'm going to have to come up with my own language within the petition yeah otherwise it would have
been a heck of a lot easier to say you know we the people of Waldwick support resolution 2025 whatever the number is and then the resolution dictates exactly what it is that we want to say um that that's the easier route I think Mr repor
so we can wait another two weeks until we vote on this resolution and then get the petition started I think that's perfectly fine I would do the petition first again I'm going have to come up with my own I'm going to have to come up with my own language right with maybe we should vote on it right if we're in disagreement why don't
we vote on them redoing the petition redoing the resolution for us to review to make sure it's the r we want to do it with or without a petition pull out the petition language cuz I don't want that to become a flash so it can go quickly quickly yeah okay yeah all right so
you're not doing a petition we I will do a petition it'll be completely independent of the resolution could you draw up a a resolution so if I understand what everybody's saying we're going to remove the request from the other towns right
for the other towns to support it we're going to remove the support of a petition and just indicate the smells coming we have compel them to to do something to look at this right and then they'll get back to us on you
know what we have to what you know what their plan is or whatever but in the meantime if we start with a we start with a resolution saying that this is what we're doing I mean you of course you're not going to say the Play Smells you'll just say put it in nice say it nicely say it nicely that's all okay I
mean I think that's what everybody's thinking am I correct yeah can can I recommend can we just have everyone just voice their confirmation that that is accurate path forward that The Bu attorney has the
authorization to redraft this resolution based on those comments removing the towns and removing the petition do I have a do I have a motion in a second so that we have the attorney redraft the resolution so gearing toward that you know he knows what we want to do and
then then a petition will follow motion motion motion um Joe and Mike take the role Mr brenick yes M Sarah kodri yes Mr martinello yes Mr Rondo yes uh Mr Richie
yes Weber yes thank and honestly if everybody could just please do not go on Facebook and start attacking everybody and attacking this person and that person I think we have to gain a little bit more respect for each other here and I will reach out to the person that is the layers on of the Sewer Authority because
I don't want to embarrass anybody anybody else from the public have anything to say I had unfinished business sure okay um I just had a couple questions about the newly formed water committee so I just want to understand the difference between their mandate and what that means for the DPW
committee and how they differ want yeah I mean I see how I'm taking it is this is completely 100% focused on just water quality water Clarity issues um specifically the current issues
discoloration odor taste issues that we're experiencing outside of DBW you know everything else DBW goes through the the regular committee um with the everyday operations things like that obviously water is a piece of that but we're taking it a step further with the water Committee just to focus solely on
these current issues that we're experiencing and we feel necessary to do that I think it's going to help us definitely come up with a solid path forward we'll find out when have our first meeting we're going to Mr Mr gell in and you know because he's very
concern well we're all concerned but he's he's been hit the most yeah know that was my next question is how often will this committee meet I think sorry Mr Man goad um I think we're still going to outline that probably at the next meeting um we've had just like a very
preliminary kind of in formal meeting um and then the next one will be with the public member who I think we're we're going to rely on a lot for kind of that public uh input piece I recommend weekly I think this is an all Hands-On deck I think weekly well it is a weekly
it is a weekly update right Steve speak to that point no no but a weekly meeting to look at oversight to look at strategy to look at a public relations strategy I mean I think there's a lot being done for sure by the town but but I think the residents have questions and that's the
number one thing we need to address is how are we going to get this information out to the residents at how we're finding the vi cause right that's part of it yeah I mean that's part of it um I just we can't speak to how frequently we're going to meet yet I think that's to be determined probably at the next
meeting we should be able by the next meeting next council meeting uh we should have you know more input on that I I can't answer that without you know having the next formal meeting with the public members in as well and just you know weekly I don't know maybe a
touch base um is is appropriate I we just we don't know yet to be honest with you I think it just feels like it's spreading a little bit like now now I have now I have brown water so it it's spreading I I I do think it's in all hands on deck
moment agree yeah sit down with the next meeting we have it next anybody else from the public if not do I have a motion to adjourn motion by second