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okay this meeting is being held in conformance with the Sunshine Law notice of time date in place has been furnished to the Bergen Record and the Rood news notice has also been posted on the bulletin board of the administration building with the clerk kindly take the role mayor Jano I'm here Mr brck here uh
Mr Mr martinello here Mr rundo here Mr Richie here Mrs Weber here everyone con stand for the Pledge of Allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one
nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all let us have a moment of silence for all our W veterans and all veterans across our country who have given their ultimate sacrifice some dying so that we could assemble like we are today and live in a free world would the clerk kindly say to
prayer we thank you for everyone gathered here now thank you that you know each of us by name and have caused us to walk with you we say that we are that we are dependent on you and our trust is in you completely as we surrender ourselves in your in adoration we ask that you would come by your Holy Spirit and Inspire our hearts today come
fill our lives with your love fill our conversations with your grace and truth fill this meeting with your presence we ask this for your glory and praise amen amen okay Paul if you want to start absolutely good evening fine councilmen and women of uh the burough of walwick
thank you for having me um today I'm here to give a presentation on uh Mobile Wireless Communications tower on 19 Industrial Way and an opportunity that presents itself for the burrow to potentially um have a substantial
increase in revenue and control of the of the tower I'll begin I'm going to go through a slideshow it's going to just go detail it'll be self-explanatory as we go through it first of all it's a 125 ft monopole and you have three carriers
currently on it you have AT&T T-Mobile and Verizon and the reason this opportunity is presenting itself to the burrow is because sometime around last year crown castle the current prime Lees let's say who had the prime lease with the tower
that was assigned from AT&T reached out to the borrow about renewing the lease for 30 years or offering a one-time buyout like a onetime lumpsum easement buyout and you know we just reviewed the lease terms and it turns out within the the prime lease itself there is a
covenant that allows the burrow to assume ownership of the tower after lease expiration you know and it's kind of unfortunate for Crown but you know basically the it's in the Burrows probably you know it's everyone to decide it is likely in the Burrow's best interest to exercise this contract
provision and do so okay as we saying just a quick run through your Tower inventory this is the one we're mostly talking about today and the prime lease expires on August 17th 2025 it's 6 months from now coming up
have another Tower over on I think 15 East Prospect Street called the The Mulch pit site oh no the this not East Prospect um this one is a 150ft tower and this one is not of Interest tonight just a quick run through the inventory and finally around the block from here
you have a small Tower by the fire department and this one probably isn't going to generate much interest from Communications carriers and so on just wanted to just basically those are the three towers you have and the one today is 19 Industrial Way the DPW site has a
little small sale from Verizon on it and it's a little Tower like one of those like AM radio towers you might see okay current revenue from the tower based upon the information provided is $159,800 a year and that Revenue comes
from a prime lease with crown for 74,000 and two ground leases with T-Mobile and Verizon so essentially Crown is leasing the tower to AT&T Verizon and T-Mobile they're leasing directly and they're paying the burrow a monthly amount and that top amount of
$743 188 that's the amount the borrow is getting for the three Tower leases in effect and the two ground leases there three Tower leases and one ground lease because AT&T's ground spaces folded into the prime lease so you have a prime lease for 74 and you have two ground
leases it looks like you negot iated or bid out for 36,000 for T-Mobile and 49,000 for Verizon and there you have that so not bad and this is a bit more detail on the offer that crown castle came up with uh
I think it was like April of 2024 they actually uh offered uh $ 4,861 a month currently that total amount comes out the $61.99 a month they wanted to actually reduce the rent which is um which is probably not in the Burrow's best interest
they also offered a lump sum of $1.5 million a single payment not see this have to look into this probably like a bidding process be a little more on the local end and Building Law there's likely a bidding process not sure if it's a it's probably not in the Burrow's
best interest to give away perpetually the control of the tower for a lump sum and it also may you know have to go through certain New Jersey laws such as the local public contracts law and local land and buildings law such as
40a subsection 12 sub subsection 13-1 or1 they also offered a one, 650,000 Perpetual easement they would give in five payments of $330,000 each these are Perpetual easements they would have the ground and
the tower in perpetuity essentially selling the land basically so those are the crown offers that triggered well do you want to do this like what what's in it for the burrow like shouldn't we look into this further and in the review of the lease we came across section 10 if you look at the
highlighted phrasing that at the expiration or termination of the lease the burrow May at its discretion opt to retain the monopol at that location and release the tenant from the responsibility of removal of it now back in 2004 when this lease was signed in
the late '90s there wasn't really this thought you know they they weren't considered they were going to have this much value to them so this was kind of a throwin to entice landlord at the time and 20 years later it's kind of coming back to to visit like a lot of tower companies like Crown likely paid a
substantial sum of money to AT&T to buy the tower you know now you know if the Bro exercises this contract they would they would probably be out whatever whatever the amount would be by not recouping their their capital investment so that is the provision
there and on August 17 2025 the burrow has the Liberty to exercise that provision and assume ownersh ship and that comes with a series of uh steps basically we'll go into that in a little bit you know basically you know the the leases with the existing uh with crown
the sub leases and you'd have to rebid you know release and so on so we'll touch on that a little later okay basically here's a little just Market rent data we have just from a sampling of about eight locations where you see the average the average amounts that uh the carriers are paying
for ground space Tower Space and it's uh it's it's pretty good you know basically some of these sites are like 91,000 some are getting 880,000 and in in this area of Northern New Jersey um Bergen County the uh the cell towers are are just prime prime asset they're
they're very valuable infrastructure so we had the apologize we took a look at the uh apologies one more there it is okay now we're going to the thing here's the projection so assuming the burrow takes
control of the tower sorry about that little glitch and let's say the borrow takes control of the Tower and bids out the elevations let's say you keep the ground leases in place you could you probably you could go the route of terminating the ground leases and doing it all
together like and kind of coming up with uh three separate leases or you could just leave the ground leases in place and bid out Tower and ground space for the top elevation because AT&T has no lease directly with the uh with um with
the burrow so you'd be leasing Tower and ground space for the top one and for the other two elevations you'd just be leasing Tower Space just going just an average amount the top probably let's say 90,000 these are conservative amounts you could probably go higher so basically you lease out the Tower Space
you bid it out you set a rent threshold of maybe 5,500 a month 6,000 a month for the two lower elevations and something more for the top one because it's Tower and ground space so you assume there they're going to probably stay on the tower it's valuable they're not going
anywhere they they need the space you know you have a lot of subscribers here for all these carriers and uh again it's just a it's a great market so they're going to they're going to as they have in in in similar towns who have exercised this provision they're going to stay in place they're going to bid on the
elevations and assuming your minimum thresholds are set like kind of fair reasonable but also getting as much as you can your Revenue would probably jump to somewhere in the 300,000 a year category but izing the section 10 provision you just get a
$150,000 a year jump pretty much there's very little that could that stand in the way of that it's strength and opportunities and not all that much in the way of weaknesses and threats and just Allandale and Franklin Lakes they they were they exercised the
provision you know had expiring Prime leases and came away with a substantial Revenue increases and that's just who's on the tower 300,000 a year with just Verizon T-Mobile and AT&T forgetting about dish we don't really know if dish is going to
have interest they're sell Network they're kind of piggybacking on T-Mobile and they're doing a standalone network of their own but you're not really sure if they're going to come in so they're maybe but you have these uh this new uh Communications uh technology that's
looking to lease space all around Bergen County and the reason is they're high frequency Traders basically they do stock market stuff and not that long ago I couldn't I couldn't pin down the exact date the MAA New York Stock Exchange data center was established and that
needs a direct line of communication with similar data centers in Carteret and caucus and if you're in the line of sight or near the line of sight of the straight line between those two uh locations or those three locations you are you have a valuable asset and high
frequency Traders they pay very well and they usually just ask to put four microwave dishes on the tower so here is a little uh GIS little uh little snapshot on the left that red line that is the line of sight between
the MAA and the SE caucus Data Center and 19 Industrial Waste Site is right there so doesn't have to be an exact line of sight but that's pretty close which led to not long ago Gotham Communications reaching out to uh the burrow to ask about um bidding for space
or leasing space on the tower you know in all in all likelihood they would want at lease space and then subas it to a high frequency Trader for a for a markup basically I mean I couldn't see any other business model that they would have but going to know exactly we probably solicit more information from them and see what their uh what their
business model is and what they're attempting to gain from the from bidding on leasing Tower Space so there you have it you have the and you have the other two see the woff Avenue one that's a pretty nice Tower but it's far enough away and uh I think it's it's too far I
don't think you'll get too much interest for that one but the 19 Industrial Way one so you're already getting 150,000 a year but for the three carriers with the potential for Dish and already some interest from high frequency Traders it's unlikely that Gotham reached out be
out of nowhere they probably were contacted themselves and said hey you know what can what can you do with this uh Tower here it's looking pretty good and usually offer anywhere from $8 to $9,000 a month uh and they're well above industry norms and again mentioned
the the Comm unication link between C caucus and Mawa in this case the Carterette one's a bit too far west the line of sight and here we want four microwave dishes in a very small ground space similar to Dish like 5 by seven feet for like one cabinet disconnect
switch and so on and that's that is the summary of the presentation next steps you know obviously something to think over and talk over you know what's in the borough's best interest but the preliminary Steps early on would probably be to contact md7 the the crown
representative and Gotham Communications just to get more information from them we've kind of been sticking with minimal communication but for the burrow you may want to uh kind of figure out like what what do they what do they what do they go maybe uh md7 we know their initial offer seeing if they're willing to offer
more just to get a sense of the market value of the tower total market value from the three carriers the potential for Dish high frequency Traders and anything else that may come along in the in the coming years as as as new forms of communication expand and then if you went that route we continue to collect
info you might want to conduct a tower audit to confirm it's like the bolts and everything it's really not that pricey make sure all the members and the structural stability is intact and then sometime in June you may want to inform Crown decision not to renew issue rfps
for the elevations and and then you Market the site and and that's the presentation thank you very much for having me thank you thank you very much thank you if anyone has any questions of course yeah anyone have any questions I have one question lay it on me um we
purchased the this from the the crown right that's who that's who currently owns the tower no you wouldn't pay a ni you just be you'd be left there you be getting for free so there are repairs and things that would that could break on this thing that then we would be responsible for just like a like
anything else it would be that's those would be that that I should have went a little more there are there are a few uh you have to get insurance on the Tower so there are there are some there is some overhead or Opex whatever you would say uh if the tower audit well that's basically why you want to do a tower audit a little before you inform Crown
just to see make sure there's not too much rust there's nothing about the fail just get a sense of the condition of the Tower and then just a couple of steps and then exactly anything that goes forward there would be like a responsibility but you know kind of shared by the burrow and the carriers depending on the carrier's level of
involvement on any issues okay thank you uh one question for me um I saw on your slide where you were listing out the potential lease income you had three sites or three different carriers for ground you we can have three different carriers there on the ground which you showed you know them separately on there
is that okay oh yeah basically uh so is it this particular lease has AT&T was the original Prime tenant on the tower they leased they leased the space built the Tower and it was theirs at some point Crown bought AT&T out and they probably sub leased it back to them or
had some sort of arrangement so AT&T has Tower Space and ground space but there's no ground lease with the burrow for it it was part of that original Prime lease Along Comes T-Mobile and Verizon they lease with crown on the tower and they lease with the burrow on the ground that's why you have those two separate
burrow ground leases you can if you decided to exercise the contract provision you could either let them continue or you could kind of terminate them and fold it all into a single rebidding process and generally what are the lease lengths that we would sign with the new carriers going forward oh can you say that again if we then lease
out to Verizon T-Mobile AT&T what are the general lease lengths that we would be able to oh usually they usually 20 to 25 years is what you usually go for that's uh 25 is what they want but you go 20 if you want to you know keep your options open a shorter duration you know that comes up so quick like 20 years
goes like that so if you go 20 years you'll all of a sudden be able to revisit it remarket it increase the rent you just do whatever thank you good no is that rent controlled so it say the same price throughout the entire leasee or can you bake into those leases annual increases oh yeah usually
do 3% escalators or CPI yeah I'm going to I have I going to send a followup with more detail email to everyone I didn't go I wanted to keep this one kind of General but you are correct 3% or annual CPI escalator why don't we have our administrator reach out to the
md7 and you get you know their input on yeah um so just a quick followup too thank you for one stepping in uh someone else be doing his presentation but he's caught in traffic on his way back up from DC so kind of stepped in last minutes so appreciate that but yeah
we've been in contact with md7 previously and we've talked with Peter from hoplight um about doing an audit kind of no matter what it um it's only a few thousand dollar I think he said it's probably worth it before we take any steps further so we'll definitely follow up if there seems to be a consensus to
at least you know explore the option yeah I think it's a good idea to explore it yeah everybody all right with exploring it definitely 100% yes okay very good thank you so much you very much Paul you're up thank
you okay now this is the same plan as I went to the planning board am I correct sorry this the same what you're talking about what went to the planning board a good night uh my understanding is tonight just to talk about Redevelopment plans generally and potentially a comprehensive downtown Redevelopment okay perfect so a bit Yeah a bit
different than the planning board disc although they get the long primer overview of the rment process I think I can give you the high points of that instead of going into that much detail thank you uh good evening Paul GLE from Philips price GLE Laney Hughes the bur's planners for a number of years now um
with regard to Redevelopment Waldwick in the past three years has taken some great steps u in my practice throughout Northern and central New Jersey the Redevelopment process has been utilized by numerous municipalities to take advantage of assets such as their downtown areas and train stations and
also to reposition older obsolete sites whether it's office complexes uh strip malls large malls uh industrial buildings Etc to turn them into more desirable land uses and also economic
generators uh in walck you have starting in 2022 the process for three blocks all are part of three blocks uh the mayor and Council back then you you authorized a study in that August of that year that was completed in 2023 for all of
block 114 in parts of 115 and 116 so that's the three blocks across from the train station on the east side uh there's no plan yet for that area but again that is a designated area as we'll be hearing and i' we've heard there are certainly interest uh potentially from uh property owners and others to
redevelop in that area uh taking the next step you go across the street to block 107 so that picks up everything from Franklin Turnpike to Harrison between Prospect and Frederick and so that block 107 area was studied by the
planning board designated by governing body and there actually is a plan in place for half of that area so it just begs the question at this point given the fact that there's interest that you have designated areas that do not have plans yet as well as other things that
are floating around out there such as affordable housing mandates and just generally speaking as you're well aware trying to increase tax revenue and redevelop fow properties underperforming properties obsolete properties whether it makes sense to take a bigger step and
create a larger Redevelopment plan for the whole area or all or part of the area instead of dealing with as you have currently you know one portion that was half of a block um so that's you know the the purpose of coming to speak with you this evening and again I'm here more
in some ways to listen or answer questions but just to offer some perspective with regard to that uh the state law the Loc Redevelopment and Housing law does provide a lot of discretion so I've written and many people have you know prepared Redevelopment plans for everything from one particular small property you know
5,000 square ft up to I once wrote a plan for an area that included 115 tax Lots uh there are part you know some that cover large portions of downtowns or business districts so there's no specified size you have to deal with um it really comes down to a matter of what
you're trying to accomplish and what the preferences are uh so so in this case you know one of the benefits of a larger scale Redevelopment plan is to standardize certain things so every Redevelopment plan by state law needs to include some if you will boiler plate or
background information dealing with existing zoning regulations and how the plan relates to your master plan as well as a lot of other things that are just standard that anytime write a plan you kind of put them in there so in some ways you can just take care of all that in one shot but then also you have the
ability to specialize in certain areas and have whether it's a sub zone or a subd district um focus on one particular property because it's either closer to you know either a train station or on a transportation route or a busier Street and allow say greater density or height
in one place versus another uh that's one great thing about Redevelopment is you don't need to have a uniform density or height or anything that said you can if you want to set the stage and say okay we have what we think is the cap for our municipality you can utilize
that and kind of put that in place so those are the specifics that would need to be worked out um as far as any downsides to a larger plan the only thing I can think of is that it just includes a lot more properties so you can potentially have someone tie it up uh you could also have issues if you're
changing for one particular case sometimes need you need to amend the whole plan again maybe not it's only a couple sentences in there or a regulation but strictly speaking it's an ordinance dealing with a larger area so uh that's kind of the background with regard to this um you know I spoke with
Craig earlier before and that's kind of the direction I was given as to the overall overview so Mr bassong now if you have any other things that you were intending me to cover or wanted me to put out on the record at this point no I I think you know basically you know Paul's talking about the entire thank
you Paul's Paul's talking about the entire area that you know the council's declared an area in need of Redevelopment so the you know what has to happen now is the council's got to give Paul some direction and I some direction as to you know what you'd like
to see development wise in that whole area if we want to do it a plan that covers of General plan that covers that entire area so that developers that are looking to come in know what the council is looking for so that they can come to you with uh with some Draft plans as to
whether or not you know that's what you you're looking to uh to put down there so what kind of process so do we need a process to lay that out or are you envisioning that we have just an open discussion here well I think um vis a bit more open just you know with
within the parameters of the fact that you again have a plan you know I have Maps here showing the areas and I'm sure you're all familiar with them but if you need any graphics to look at but again you have a plan that's adopted just in the past six months so that could be a nice starting point and potentially expanded so in terms of saving cost and
time and energy it almost would be taking either you could take that and expand it um we could keep that that just on one on block 107 maybe focusing there and then the other three blocks doing something different you know again would probably align in terms of building materials and Urban Design and everything else to make you know the
overall vision for the area um but that's you know at this point it's just a matter of you know what you're comfortable with in terms of the scope and what area you would like to include within a plan I'm happy to throw out an idea to get the conversation started if that
would be helpful yeah so does everyone want to expand the current plan to include all areas that we've designated areas in need of Redevelopment just to keep things like height and density consistent across the
board I know height is an issue here so we probably don't probably don't want to go any higher in any building than anything we allowed in that first plan if if I had to read everyone's mind that's probably accurate yeah I I would certainly go with no higher no
higher but I would certainly like to see one story grade down maybe have it grade down I'm not a fan of 50 foot buildings so so maybe have it all gray down as we get closer to say Franklin uh down to three stories yeah something like that
yeah I also want to be clear though that if we go ahead and do something like create a larger plan we're under no obligation if I understanding correctly to actually bring someone in and and develop this property right there is
that true well you're I mean if somebody comes to you with a compliant complying a plan that's compliant with what you put out there that you want to see then you know they can make that
application to the planning board okay it's just like regular zoning okay if you put a plan out there yeah right just to to piggy back on that I think that's one of the points of you know the benefit in some ways of going piece meal is to say well you control
each piece as it comes up but again given that's a relatively small area you know my my opinion it makes sense to kind of look broader and then make sure you have the parameters in place right up front so it's clear to anyone coming in you don't have to go have a back and forth necessarily of course in the future like any ordinance like any
Redevelopment plan can be amended so if you say you know what it really makes sense to go high or to go lower or to do something different uh in a different area you can always amend the plan create a different subdistrict that focuses on you know for example a property says we really have some constraints with regard to Elevation or
soils or some other Factor you can you can adjust for that as well it's not intended to be one size fits all that you only you know have one approach at the North and South ends which are pretty different in terms of character yeah and in my opinion note we did half of 107 right so it would be to set
parameters on the rest of 10 7 there the elephant in the room there is the the right property right so that's the big piece of property we don't know what's going on with that company Long Term and the landlord who owns that property if we were going to do something we should set parameters for what we want to see
there in the future whether that's open space or community centers or things like that that we all have kicked around Municipal parking see that that's the question the question is do you want to take this as individual blocks and have
say you have four blocks we're talking about one you've already done half of so do you want to do four individual plans for what's left do you want to do one General plan for that whole
area that you don't have somebody that's promoting you know we have I don't see Bruce here he was going to come and present the the rocket property and the revisions that we've been going back and forth with them which is half of one of
the other blocks or do you want to do a general plan for everything that's left that that's what we have to decide can I ask a question uh to be clear we're talking about the front half of West Prospect to Franklin Turnpike to
Frederick which the buy to the corner properties correct which is the other half of the har I do have map section interest of helping talking about the same just so I'm clear these are both all in the public record so it's clear from the Redevelopment studies that I already prepared I've just took pages from each
of them I'll I'll go one this is for the three one I'll speak on the mic self two separate ones yes there's one of them shows the designated areas in blocks 114 so that's
the rocket property and some others 115 116 that's the study that was adopted in the area designated last year and then the other one is just the block 107 just to show an aerial so you have the plan for Harrison and as you'll
see on there pretty much everything on the west side of there the individual Lots so again for the record that those come from each of those respective Redevelopment studies for Block 107 and4 115 116 Paul how easy is the amendment
process if we wanted let's say as an example we wanted to put a plan in place for the other half of 107 but we made it like our dream one story Municipal parking lots of Green Space right and took that and just marketed the heck out
of it to see what kind of response we got and let's say after a year we didn't get much response and we said okay maybe that's just too restrictive we have to change it a bit what's the process like to change it it's relatively straightforward as long as the technical part of it straightforward like changing
numbers or things not adding a lot of different sections it's the same as it would be for the adoption of a plan so the process would be introduced on first reading like any ordinance referred to the planning board for consistency review back here for second reading and public hearing so it's actually very straightforward um and it's not unheard
of at all you I've seen re plans have dozens and dozens of amendments in them so it's definitely possible sorry I was just going to ask one quick question in your experience does having a Redevelopment plan help us to maybe go out and have initial
conversations with more developers because they know what the framework is I think so just because in this case it's not um one single site if it was you had one showcase property took I'm not the example the post office but you in some towns you have a property that's pretty clear and you say we want you to tell us what you're going to do there
here you have a lot more to choose from so unless it's a property owner there especially since also the four the three to the West I believe are non- condemnation versus 107 is condemnation you'd have to have an interest from the property or make a deal anyway so this
way you can set a vision and parameters for the overall area right so we can be you can be we can be a little on the conservative side and then always edit it yes yeah absolutely I mean the way the Redevelopment plan is written currently here it's a fee if someone else comes in to do that but if the
burrow is doing it yourselves it's just a matter of you know undertaking the cost to make the changes okay so just to be clear so 3626 part of 24 the easement for P so those are not buildable
correct yes so we're looking at um just want make sure we're yeah yeah the ones that are going yeah through those three different tax blocks okay um actually yeah think e been say in one case like the burrow actually owns one of these at least some are private but there would
be some restrictions I believe on built on that I'd have to double check exactly what there's are and that would be shown in the plan where the events are yes it's unable you know that actually reminded me what sorry to jump thought from the open space presentation I recently made to the planning board that you already saw
there's the talk of a linear Park through there so overall Redevelopment plan could then put that on a map and give some teeth to that so that literally just you know you asked that question came to me as another benefit of a of a broader plan okay do we want to have like a group of three
people put some ideas together and and maybe submit them for for conversation I think we should have the whole council do this since the town project I'll do it right here I think we should think about it a little bit I mean we just got these things I would like to um I mean I just heard two really in my opinion
really good ideas about what to use with 107 um but but I don't know which one I want yeah you need time I I I kind of need a little time to I don't want to rush into
this and get it through my skull but U you know the idea about green and the idea about public parking I thought are both great ideas which one do I want I don't know yet maybe we can do both but may
maybe you're right a big it's a big property um if if we don't have to move on this tonight i' I'd really kind of like to take a little time to think about this well why don't we do it in this uh everybody review it look at it
and one by one not as a group please send all your concerns to Steve and let's Steve will explain it to you he'll put all the data down what everybody's discussing and then we could probably uh come back on the 11th when we meet again
and discuss this do you want to send ideas to St just questions ideas and questions because you know sometimes your questions will help you y okay and just you know Steve will just keep all the data and then he'll come back with us he'll speak with the attorney about
it and then he'll see if like your ideas are worth to do know sometimes it might be something that we can't do and they'll be able to get back to you on it yeah I think the idea tonight was just to give you an overview of what your options are with Paul cuz Paul's the one that's going to have to be draft in the Redevelopment plan so you could you know
just ideas to think about you could separate out 107 and say you want to do a single plan for there but then 14 115 116 you want to have one General plan for those three blocks for developers to
look at you know and then we can break it down into okay well you know what are you looking at density wise what are you looking at height wise you you know you do have a project that has been you know you guys are considering on 114 so keep that in mind when you're looking about
when you're thinking about those other those other things I don't know where Bruce is I just checked he did email me that he had a diary for tonight but you know we'll have to reschedule his presentation for that's the one for that's the rocket project that's true that is true he might be coming in at
7:30 so we might revisit this later if he shows up then we'll just go back to it we'll put it on the new but that that's all tonight was it's not nobody's looking for a decision tonight it was to give you guys the what to think about what to send your ideas on so we can move forward one way
or another thank you okay very welcome thank you thank you thanks Paul so Redevelopment we'll wait and see what happens okay the report of committees uh my committee report uh just a couple of items last night I
uh couple of we meeting before we talked about the sh Fisher and uh the Fisher Foundation yesterday his father called me up about 4:00 or 4:30 and asked me if I would be able to go to the high school and present a uh a certificate of
appreciation to principal Carol who for the last 15 years was were doing was doing this screening on behalf of the Fisher foundation so I went there and we presented him on behalf of the mayor and Council a certificate thanking him for the 15 years of continuing for health
screening he was saying that since they been doing it since uh 15 years 35 children were detected with a problem and probably their lives were saved because of what's going on which is very good and the Fisher family is very uh happy and pleased that you know their
son's memory is still kept alive here in the burrow which is a lot and it means a lot uh also um last Wednesday I went to to the famous SE Authority I want to thank Mr Mitchell for being there we had
a nice conversation uh and I brought a bodyguard cuz I didn't know what to expect so I brought Mark of anybody on the council he looks like a bodyguard um they were very uh courteous they had the reor meeting they
had three meetings that lasted I think about half an hour 25 minutes and um what I did was I just explained to them what's going on in the burrow I explained to them about the smell is getting a little bit it's worse than it was I also uh talked to to him about
what we discussed when we went with the administrator and I with him with the the John danubio all of the other uh men were there and ladies were there uh at the meeting um I also let him realize that a petition by a resident was going
around and they were already aware it they're probably on our meeting tonight watching us so um he was very perceptive on what we were saying he did say that probably starting in March they're going to have uh men outside in streets for about a month detecting the smells
they're whatever we discussed with them on that Tuesday uh the administrator and I they are still continuing to go along with that process uh he said that they're going to try the best they could to do what they have to do for us and I said you know we'll wait and see um Mr
Mitchell did you get any other different take on what took place yeah so we'll see we'll give them the benefit of the doubt uh I did tell them that I'd like to treat them as we treat the Board of Ed uh when the Board of Ed has their meetings the next day I
speak with them and when we have our meetings they speak with me so what we're going to do is tomorrow they will speak with me about this meeting I did speak with John danubio today briefly through his secretary because he was off today and uh we know what the plan is
moving forward with them right now uh also everybody knows about the Ramadan ceremony on Thursday they've asked me to present some certificates to certain individuals that went above and beyond for this year's ceremony I'll be
talking to our famous clerk about the uh certificates we have to write up and we'll be presenting it to them uh other than that uh I have our mayor's meeting on Saturday we will be talking about deer again we're trying to see if the county will support anything that we
want to do about deer but it seems that they're not so what we're going to do is we're bringing some other people in to talk about deer and that's all I have to report right now financial and administrative committee Mr Richie thank you Mr Mayor good evening everybody so this evening we will be returning back
the capital budget there's some uh small changes in the capital budget from a month ago when we first reviewed it I think everyone has it in front of them I will also be touching on the water budget uh this evening for the first time that is the I'm sorry the capital budget for water and that is essentially
the capital budget for the different department that we have Mr randoo on the issue that we brought up last meeting two weeks ago on the uh expenses that water would not carry forward uh we don't quite have that ready I want to make sure it's perfect so I believe
everyone's going to email it to you when we have it and we should have it before the next meeting and then then we can certainly discuss it uh for sure but apologies I did I know I usually like to deliver on things that I promise but uh I think it was a tough couple weeks but
anyway we'll we'll get that done ASAP and um yeah that's it for my uh report this evening Mr Mayor thank you thank you very much fire and police protection committee Mr brck uh thanks Mr Mayor uh during the month of February we answered 21
calls among them were Co alarms um a few false alarms uh several Mutual Aid requests out of town um motor vehicle accidents on 17 it was uh essentially a regular month for the fire
department um two officers I'm happy to say uh completed their fire instructor level two uh course and we have two new members that are starting their uh fire one uh training so uh that's about all I
have tonight okay thank you very much uh Public Safety Committee when Mrs S Drake comes she'll make her report Recreation and health committee mon thank you Mr Mayor a few items for tonight be brief um baseball registration is still open
for children from prek through 8th grade you can go to Wal baseball. sport engine.com to register we're already over 350 kids uh which is a great start we'll probably be around 450 kids by the time we we start um activities our
opening day is scheduled for April 26 we can't wait to have the public come down and see all the great improvements that have been done in the off season that's really a great uh great thing for the town um our sponsors for teams and banners is open right now a lot of our great um business partners in the
community have already sent in their donations it's fantastic and we look forward to um seeing them all there on opening day and uh also on April 10th as I said last time um the golf outing has returned for 2025 it's going to be a great event we have some good sponsors
lined up and some great prizes um also just a reminder that on Friday um we have the community helper Story Time with Mr Mayor I think that's still on the schedule for 3:30 at my people are coming your people are coming we have the Ramadan um um Crescent Lighting
on February 27th we have uh blood pressure screening on March 5th at 11:45 a.m. at the wal clinic on 22 Whit Slane and also the bcua Hazardous household hazardous waste on March 8th at 9:00 a.m. great event to get rid of things in
your garage and also on April 1st our pool registration opens we're looking forward to getting everybody signed up to enjoy the pool this year and then as a couple congratulations our wrestling program uh for recreation had their annual District tournament and we had
several first place winners that I'd like to congratulate here uh Chase kapoi Anthony kapoy Dean Lynch and Dominic Marquee uh first place winners um they'll move on to the regional tournament uh this coming weekend and also some alumni of our Recreation
program in the high school um one districts which is a a great thing for Waldwick in a in a small town we had a Gio jodina win first place at 120 lbs and Jake Abramson from Midland Park took first place at 175 pounds and Ralph
Warner took second place so those three um young men will move on to the uh District region tournament this weekend and hopefully uh earn their way to Atlantic City and that's it thank you Mr Mayor remember when we were that size what's that remember when we were that size oh long time ago public work
committee Mr rundo thank you Mr Mayor uh one item uh from the last meeting I did forget to acknowledge uh several members of the DPW uh if you all know there was a traffic accident the night that we had the heavy ice situation on Route 17 a
tractor trailer actually would have hit the bus stop again uh but it wasn't there so uh but uh Steve Weber and Anthony Paris took the initiative being First Responders to the road uh and not wait
for the safe uh and ensure the safety of all the First Responders the ambulance the police department and the fire apparatus so that they walked into a safe situation versus a situation that could have been critical to them because the roads were very icy so again I'd like to thank them and uh Mike's team
for taking the initiative to do that that's all I have Mr Mayor thank you thank you very much building and grounds committee Mrs Weber thank you Mr Mayor um sorry about that um we have some work up uh coming up for the public safety building we have uh some work that's
going to be done on the fire suppression system uh it's currently a dry system and it will be converted over to a wet system so there's quite quite a bit of work that has to be done to resolve that um last Monday I was able to stop by at the ambulance Corps because I never had
a chance to stop by during one of their meetings to see their new bathrooms uh they were kind enough to give me a tour of the facility and we went over some um issues that they had that they were looking for some resolution on um we had
the our water committee meeting do you want to talk about that or St talk about that go ahead I could help yeah just just a brief overview of that so we had a water committee meeting last week um the resident was there Mr gell and he spoke with h2m it was it was a very good
meeting um he gave told them the the issues that he's been having and uh it was nice to hear directly from him uh with the problems that he's been experiencing and uh h2m came up with some some ideas and I I'm hoping that he
got some reassurance from hearing from them as well uh what we what type of work we'll be doing Downstream on that um we also had a board of ed safety meeting um I guess we could talk about that yeah absolutely okay and uh there
was some discussion with the Board of Ed about uh having officers police officers and the schools so that'll be something that'll come up in our budget meeting as well since there'll be a splitting of the priorities with the um salaries but
we're still waiting some for some more information on that uh from the Board of Ed and the police department and that's all I have thank you in regards to that at the board of ed meeting the other night I forgot to mention it but I'm glad you brought it up uh they discussed the same thing that we just discussed that this is just preliminary things we
have some ideas they have some ideas initiated this uh uh talking uh session with us so that we're a joint effort in uh taking care of the safety with the with the children uh our next meeting is uh next month 12 right uh and we will
meet again this time the police will be coming in cuz what this meeting we had we didn't have the police there but all the information that we all came up with our administrator gave it to our police department and now they're going to take it and come up with a a game plan and then we will look into all this stuff at
every you know right now it's no need to get everybody so much concerned about it because we are just in the process of thinking about what we going to do and how we going to do it and that's the extent of what the meeting was all about thank you our administrator uh yeah I'll save most of
my comments for budget but I will touch on the water committee meeting um I think we we've discussed a lot and I think we have a pretty good plan going forward there's going to be a lot more coming out I'd say in the next couple weeks um with h2m we had to go over some budgeting for a new study that we're
going to get them started on um so we pretty much have that solidified so we actually plan to award them that contract officially at the next meeting in March um but they are starting to prepare and mobilize to get some things going already um to address the discoloration issue so more to come on
that very soon other than that I think I'm good thank you thank you you got ask a question on that y um also great work to the uh the men for the waterm breaks again this this week so thank you again for the quick response on that and getting it taken care of and
to work on on the Route 17 um are there any reports if that has kind of helped any of the other situations yeah so we discussed that uh we kind of had our our fingers crossed in the way to see if that was once the Route 17 repair was completed as of right now we don't have
any reports one way or another if it's gotten worse or any better um but we are going to check in with the public member honor committee uh we asked him during that meeting to kind of keep an eye on things and keep us posted um so we'll we'll see we are going to evaluate that over the next week or two to see if
there's any positive updates but yeah I'd like to also thank the DPW crew the Route 17 B main break was not an easy fix um it took a lot of preparation and planning and uh it it showed because it it worked out really well it's about three days of prep work and then the
actual repair so great job by that Steve uh one of the other things uh sorry Mr Mayor absolutely thank you uh one of the other items that was uh very good with the meeting is Mr gell did have quantifiable information which uh he's
actually monitoring when he replaces the with uh the filters he's keeping the filters so that he has uh all the filters he's used to date um so they can and it's very clear he showed us the pictures they are uh around can't deny
it uh but he's getting around 18 days of service out of those filters and traditionally they're 6 months I think yeah I think it's about six months it's something that he's monitoring and you know he came with an open mind and he's really you know
moving a good asset to the team because he has you know eyes on the ground so want to thank him for his input Mr may can I just add something yeah Steve one thing that actually is is kind of interesting happening at my house is when there's a water mean that
breaks go brown but it's transient right it lasts for like a day or two and then it goes back clear is there any way we can get word out to people to like report that too because I have to imagine all this data has got to be helpful in figuring out where this is coming from I think if if
it goes away people just feel like ah if it resolved itself and we never get that information like I haven't reported it it did when there was there was another water main break it was brown for like a day and then it went clear again and we just didn't report it because it's laziness I guess I think it would be
great if Mr Richie reports it as because the more data we build the better understand that was actually one of the things we talked about in the meeting um Tatiana had brought up too like for people to even say oh my water is it's fine but my neighbors having you know an
issue and with the water main breaks they usually because you send the nixel out if there's a break in the area so then people kind of know that it's going to happen and maybe they don't report it because there's a there's a explanation for that yeah maybe put the link in is
there a link in the nixel that's something we yeah we did discuss how to encourage people to report more like even if you're not having a problem we want to know that because it is sporadic on certain blocks we found like one person's having a really bad issue their neighbor right
next door is having nothing and so what we want to try and capture going forward is who has filters in their house what type of filters so we've kind of expanded the questions we're going to ask so we're working on that submission form to update add field s to capture all that info um we have two
spreadsheets right now we're kind of working off of so we're going to centralize that put everything in in one spot and just ask additional questions and the the people um residents having their own filters in the homes also uh adds to why the neighbor has it
but then the resident next door doesn't have it and then the neighbor next door has it and because people have filters and so they're not reporting it so when you look at it on a map it looks sporadic but it is actually might be the whole street but we but three or four of the residents have inhome filters and
they're not seeing the discoloration so that is one of the other data points that we're going to start collecting too is where people have you know people have a filter as well um then that would explain why they're not seeing it but
they their uh their neighbor is Steve just a comment from my other profession as we're in this data we should probably put a disclaimer or something about collecting personal information from people that were
protecting it it's some secured or or encrypted data so that we make sure our residents know their data is safe with us I'm sure we could draft something with the bu attorney okay anybody else all right you're on Kelly did you want my report
or no yes ma'am oh thank you thank you mayor uh Melissa and I will be attending the Burton County election uh officials breakfast on Friday um there's a lot going on in Trenton right now with uh pending election bills that will affect this year's elections if they are passed
so um this should be a a you know a pretty jam-packed meeting um I'll report on that at the at our next meeting um just a reminder that April 16th is is the deadline to change your party affiliation declaration forms and those forms are available through our website
dog licensing um continues to go smoothly and residents um are pleased with the ordinance changes that the council adopted giving them uh the residents a little more flexibility um to provide updated rabies but still having their dog license so we have uh as a result of that issued over 800
licenses to date um that is something that we have never done before so um our our efforts seem to be working um and we thank you for that ordinance change um lastly just the and landlord tenant registrations are just coming in now um
Fast and Furious so that's kind of where we are now thank you thank you confidential assistant Tatiana thank you mayor just wanted to uh officially welcome Lindsay ruy who joined our team in the DPW uh facility another friendly
voice for residents uh to um communicate with when it comes to their garbage their Recycling and all of the different Services of the DP W provides throughout the year we're really excited to have Lindsay on board while she won't be interfacing uh with residents uh that's
good physically she'll be at the DPW she will be available by phone we haven't made that transition yet all those calls are still coming up to burrow Hall um but once we have her set up we've thrown a lot at her in uh less than a week but she uh is doing a great job we're very
happy to have her on board and uh she's going to be a great fit with the DPW thank you mayor thank you follow ministr I'm sorry B attorney Craig thank you Mr Mayor no report this evening okay we're going to go back to Public Safety Committee Miss saraka Drake thank you
sorry it was at work um so nothing major since the last Wallback report they hosted their joint training with avac Airway Management on 23 they hosted the EMT recertification ABC refresher and offered to members of avac and hbac and
impac they also had 30 calls month to date and five general calls month to date thank you mayor you're welcome okay consent resolutions and resolutions of the government body be resolved that the following resolutions here with listed by consent having been
considered by the governing body of the burough of Waldwick are hereby passed and approved 2025 85 approval of consent 2025 86 approval of minutes regular and budget meeting of February 11 2005 policy vote a Village School parents Association request to hold a splash
party at the walck pool on June 19th um I'm sorry June 9th with June 10th as the sorry about that with June 10th as the rain date from 3:30 to 5:30 at and request lifeguards be present B Kevin locky requests to use Pavilion a on May 18th from 11: to dusk for a graduation
party with alcoholic beverages being served 20587 resolution requesting the nbcua address the odor issue from the facility 22588 resolution to support publishing legal notices on the official government websites 2025 89 authorized execution of
agreement with Phoenix advisors for redevelopment financial advisors in the amount not to exceed $7,500 22590 authorized Amendment to the autocab license for INS car and limo 2025 91 authorized Midland Park continue education summer camp to use the Wald
municipal pool for their campers 2025 92 authorized Redemption tax salale certificate 19- 00623 for 41 White Pond Road 22593 authorized waiver of interest for 2024 added omitted tax bills 2025 94
approval of uh appropriation transfers and 2025 95 payment of vouchers do you have a motion and a second to accept motion by yes I would just like to um uh resolution 22587 if we can have that poll just so
we can look that over again because the petition wasn't received and also it doesn't have petition in the resolution anymore so I'm not let's do the rest and we'll go back to that you have a motion in a second
motion by Mark second by I guess Michelle anyone have a question on everything but the one that was pulled nope okay the only thing is Midland Park continue education summmer Camp is that the one we did last year too yes same thing everything's the same everybody
right some changes to our benefit um Tatiana do you want to talk to it yeah so uh one of the things that we've just ask them is to pay ahead of time we know that that uh they're registering now for the summer so it'd be helpful to us to have um just you know payment ahead of
time so we can invoice them and then we have also made the recommendation that the students who are coming in and the uh campers have wristbands on so they're easily identifiable by our our staff and is there a limit of how many are coming or do we know 15 to 30 campers good
Perfect all right say that's the same is nothing changes no it's just really us getting the money up front and um the anywh else and those are some wer kids too right W yes they can be y clerk please take
the role Mr brck yes mrri yes Mr marelo yes Mr randoo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes do you want to do the traffic study first in the budget or you want to go on we're going to go on 87 yeah we're going to do um the traffic study first then we'll work on the budget
resolution oh I'm sorry the resolution good P it you pulled 87 good so I know that there was um talk about doing the petition and we got something today that is signatures um it's like a spreadsheet
though I'm not sure but then the resolution didn't mention anything about petition again in it so I know we asked to take the uh towns out of it but we were going to leave the petition in and now it's not in so I didn't really know
what direction we were going in so it it no absolutely taking the petition out yes okay so we're just so it's just going to be that we're we're presenting it as the burrow I thought the whole thing was to be with the petition well I
would love for that to be and that's what I wanted to discuss so the petition I started it happy to say you know I was excited to do that it is an online petition um so there's a link in the email that you have to click on um 20 oh Mr
laor helped me we about 300 signatures already within the first uh within the first two weeks so I provided the signatures as well just so everyone had a chance to to see it I think that's a great reception uh early on but I you know we really need help I I I can't get
this think what we're doing with the Sewer Authority is a great start yeah um is to have a conversation with them because we weren't any conversation with them and have we validated that all the signatures that are included in that are all within yeah cuz I see a lot from out
of state on there yeah so you would see you will see if if you read I sent I sent the a administrator an email and kind of explained uh it has me listed as being in lynon uh so it's where you are at the time of signing the the petition
I did not did not I did not go through and look at every single name no way because when I look 140 people that don't live anywhere near I feel full I mean I guess that's why we pulled the petition out because there's it's not quantifiable I didn't
think the petition was submitted to me yet I just think the petition was circulated to let you all know that that here's where we are right now so nothing's been formally submitted to the clerk so this it's still fluid it was just an example of here's where we
here's what we got so far right exactly that was for can we stop can we just do a resolution and send it to them and then what and it's saying that a petition will follow that'll cover because the petition was removed but I don't remember saying that we were going to take the petition you absolutely wanted
the petition removed from the resolution a big argument well I know I said we wanted the petition first before we s push the resolution through because the resolution said petition in it well that's when we changed the resolution to say it wouldn't be dependent upon a res a petition being filed to file a
resolution so had um Craig go back and rewrite the resolution that would remove the towns and remove the petition from it so that we can submit this resolution as the mayor was just saying do that and then we could also submit the petition afterwards later dat at a later date I mean they're waiting for everything yeah
yeah I know I know they are so why don't we just go ahead with the sending out the resolution and then uh with a little thing saying that I mean could you just add something that a petition will follow when it's completed or no just put the resolution I I don't I don't want to confuse issues the the
petition is started is started by a resident Absolut the qu there's two questions one was the resolution without including a petition and two was whether this Council was going to support a resolution the submittal of a petition
to the sours already so they're two separate and distinct issues you can do this resolution as drafted and send it down there and not say anything about a future petition or at a later time you
could say review the petition and say you support the petition okay or the resident can submit the petition themselves right corre it's whether you want to support okay do I have a motion to accept to 025 d88 motion by Michelle
second by 87 I'm sorry I'm sorry I got got no glasses motion by who a motion by Michelle second by Mark uh anyone have a question I guess everybody answered everything or spoke clerk take the role Mr brck yes Miss s c Drake yes Mr
martinello yes Mr randoo yes Mr Richie yes Mrs Weber yes okay you want to go talk about the uh Safety First yeah yeah we're going to go a little switching around instead of doing the budget first we save that for last we're going to do the traffic study uh thank you Mr Mayor I guess I'll
kind of Cee this up and everyone jump in um so we've been talking a lot about traffic safety study the study that was done in 2023 um recently last week uh we had the opportunity the fire and police protection committee sat down with PD um the chief and then two lieutenants to
discuss that study in Greater detail and come up with kind of a a set list of recommendations um so we did that um and I think everyone's caught up at this point so um Lieutenant CER kind of put that all together for us um a detailed
list I don't know if anyone I could go through that list right now um but just some followup is really we're focusing on signage so updating signage um possibly adding one um four-way stop um
that's all that's outlined so far but really looking at upgrading all our signage specifically stop signs so we're looking to upgrade all the stop signs and we're talking about this area the the grid area over here um focusing there first which was outlined in the
study so we're looking at um eight LED stop signs um and six uh light up LED pedestrian cross crossing signs and then we're also looking to add two more um of the blinking crosswalks uh this year in
this budget so you know right now in in the capital with those things outlined um you know we did bump that up from about 25,000 in capital to about $65,000 in capital now just just to really focus on signage kind of that's like the first
phase of implementation um along with painted crosswalks so um I drove around with Lieutenant cortt earlier this week and we looked at all the intersections and our crosswalks are sporadic I'd say at best um they don't totally make sense so we want to get some high impact
ladder striping at all those those crosswalks that is an effective way of slowing down traffic especially coming down you know streets like nordom Center and ridge so we think that would be pretty effective and um we did discuss some some traffic safety around the schools as well which I think we'll go
into greater detail at at another time once we kind of zero in on those decisions a little bit more um the last piece we're waiting on is pricing on additional speed feedback signs so those are those boxes you see on poles that tell you how fast you're going when you approach um they collect data too which
is very helpful for our Police Department so we'll be able to move those around town and and use those effectively to you know focus on targeted areas of enforcement and things like that so that's where we're headed with that um thank you all the committee members and and definitely PD for their
input on this I don't know if anyone has anything just just just so everyone knows this traffic study committee and the Safety Committee at two different committees Safety Committee was established by the the the uh Board of Ed and the traffic study committee was something that was already done by us so
there's two separate committees anyone else Mr Mayor yes yeah yeah one of the items that uh Lieutenant CER uh mentioned was once they installed the LED stop signs the fourway stop on Hopper and West Prospect at first they
didn't think it was going to be a vast Improvement but I think uh the way he communicated Andy correct me if I'm wrong said I think they went down almost 100% 50 no 50% uh so the amount of incidents over there have drastically
been reduced um so they seem to be a very good deterrent to slow people down and that's one of the initiatives that they're looking for over by Bergen or Summit what you you're in charge of the Public Safety Committee how do you feel about all this well I was going to say
that um one of the focus points that uh that was brought out clearly I think in in the meeting that we had with the police department um was in and around burden um it it seems to be um actually
Google Maps has bured as a through Street to go from the center of walwood to 17 um so that's that's one of the focal points that uh that was brought up in the conversation um they they know it
they're aware of it and and I got to say that uh I think that this is a great move forward and I think we're going to see very positive results and a relatively short period of time exced about what are we doing at the schools what are we doing at the schools
yeah with respect to the traffic yeah I mean it was pretty well laid out here what needs to be done at the school there was a recommend so I I apologize I didn't get a chance to meet the meeting I was in San Diego I don't apologize for that but um yeah I I think are we
keeping it General I I thought we were we were keeping it General tonight but there was a a recommendation to make uh one of the streets one way you know at certain periods of time that was in the the safety uh meeting they're talking about that at the safety
meeting talk about that that was in that was in the board of AD safety the Board of Ed safy yeah that was also in the traffic study yeah we're looking into that with the with the Board of Ed we're looking into changing uh Summit Summit Avenue and then we're also looking into
uh uh there there was a petition signed by residents we're looking into maybe adding a couple of crossing guards CR so that's another thing that they're working on and that as I said before we'll go to the police for them to review everything cuz uh as Lieutenant cord said if we need crossing guards we
will get crossing guards there was also a comment about sidewalks on nordom and Endor uh Center uh being that they don't have any sidewalks up and down that entire Road and I think that would be
fantastic I remember that yeah it was in his in his email too uh from from this afternoon yeah if I may Mr Mayor just to touch on that point um that was brought up because there's a lot of streets in throughout Waldwick that do not have sidewalks so obviously that is a a
pedestrian safety concern and I that's why some of the crosswalks are sporadic because you don't have a crosswalk to Nowhere um so that's some of the reasoning behind that so we're we're trying to pick out where we can add them and where it makes sense and maybe that is a discussion for some of our adaas uh
ramp upgrades is maybe we add some of those Corners in at least um and potentially full-blown sidewalks but at least you know we could kind of start with the ramps and fill in the gaps from there what's involved with you in the sidewalks I know we did the one on Hopper but I think that was the Board of
Ed that that did that for the corner we did we did that you did that what was the board of head is going to be working on they're still in the process of putting the uh we sto that uh Hopper they're going to go oh they had to continue they're going to go on the side of where the field is they're working on
that okay so me our next meeting what we'll do is just bring it up to what the police they're very you know they're listening and very in tune to what we need and what the residents need anybody else with traffic could I just yeah can I just add one more thing is there an
appetite to do a similar study on other parts of town I think that this was a a great initiated a great discussion had some great ideas and I think there are other areas ATT town that we could probably address this with too why don't we just uh do this one first and then
we'll go to another one but too much on the plate is going to get everybody the third party right I mean we just we got a budget for it and then they start and it's going to take a year anyway I think we should get this done first let the police work on this first and then we'll work on everything
else anyone else so so that's final that's my final I don't care anybody else does what you just want I I can walk and shoe gum at the same time so could I so I'd be more than happy to have that traffic study expanded to
other areas why don't we meet why don't we speak to the police about this see what they want to do I mean because they the ones that have to do all the the leg work for us yeah I can do that I'll follow up with them get some recommendations I know this grid area was the priority so we'll see where they want to jump to next good okay 2025
Municipal budget discussion Steve you can do that you can start and everybody will chime in right all right so tonight we're going to C go back to Capital um you should have the sheets in front of you there's two sheets just the general capital and then the second
sheet is the water Capital um so we could kind of Jump Right In I'll just note since the last meeting there aren't many significant changes um we added some of the fire department items that weren't previously discussed and changed around a couple
items so if you want we'll just start under admin I'll note the things that have been changed um the big one is it equipment so we are at you 20 25,000 for that uh based on discussions with our Our IT company today we're actually
bumping that up to 70,000 and one of the main reasons for that is both of our servers that control PD and the burrow uh need to be replaced this year they are end of life those are about $15,000 each so there's 30,000 right there just with the two servers and then the
additional uh 40,000 would be to replace 15 workstations so that's about a third of our workstations we have about 45 or so total um so if we did 15 this year probably another 15 next year and kind of implement it that way that's what
we're looking at Steve are they quoting anything on options instead of replacing servers hosting it in Cloud Azure AWS that is not what they're proposing but um we're we're schedule to have a
follow-up meeting with them soon to kind of zero in on that a little bit more and see what the options are does it it it takes that off a future right you don't have to worry about upgrading servers anymore it's done by huge companies they'll constantly keep you upgraded all
you have to do is pay your annual operating cost which takes that kind of add of the capital for you going forward so I you know I'm happy to help with that too if I can participate in any discussion on that yeah we'll we'll get their opinion on that I know I've talked
to a bunch of different it people and they seem to go back and forth some like the physical servers because it's actually locked up in a physical space in the police department it's secure some like it because they like to get more fillable hours that is also an option but uh so we'll we'll
get out all the options and lay it out we we do have that meeting followed up with them but I want to include it in there now because that is what the recommendation is um going down not much else has changed under admin the next significant bump up um
which we just discussed really is the traffic devices so we did increase that to 70,000 for that so I don't know if there's any further comment on that I think um that 70 will cover everything we've discussed and the additional speed feedback signs you know maybe with a
little bit extra too so I think we'd be able to really increase our signage around town with that and that's not including the two uh blinking crosswalks we've already purchased that are hopefully going to be installed actually starting in the next two weeks once the
weather's kind of broke for us but does that money include anything for the schools Yes actually it will the one plant trap Haagen uh there's some equipment that's included um we'll skip down and just
jump right into to fire um so this is all pretty new the regular items the turnout gear and PPE that's a standard 25,000 uh that's what we did last year some years we apply for afg Grant and offset that which is great we just want to keep that in there just in case we
don't receive any grants for that and just so you know a full set of PPE so that includes the the helmet the hood uh gobl jacket pants boots is about $6,000 for one set so keeping that regular
obviously the the gear gets beat up uh you get new members you want to have enough gear for everybody so I would recommend keeping that line in there uh the next one you'll see is the nox box so those are the boxes mounted on every business throughout Town it allows you
know first responder access into the buildings if they're they're there off hours so this this is for 30,000 um I guess you might be able to provide a little additional background well what the going to do is we are uh as everybody else we're going digital so
what this going allow us to do is on the way to the call um we can activate that box ahead of time when we get there there is no waste of time just go right into do what we have to do um it's an ongoing process
um it is expensive like everything else but I believe it's it's the right way to go it saves time that's what we got to do did will also enable um us to track who goes in and out it tracks where the keys are who has access everything so
it's just a much more secure system uh the line below was actually this is really just a relabel um it was kind of a catch all so we relabeled it fire suppression equipment that's been a standard 8500 it was hoses and appliances so we just kind of wanted to
you know recategorize that I guess to be more General it's basically for all firefighting equipment next one down is technology upgrade so this is for the iPads that are in all the rigs um I believe pull up
all the you know mapping information on the way where hydrant locations things like that on the way your fingertips but before you get there even how to get there if you need to yeah so super helpful can save a lot of time if you know there's a hydrant
you know if there's not a hydrant close and there's one in my in my opinion these are not you know these are not ones these are these yeah this has got to happen and it allows for the reporting to the niers immediately so that nothing's lost it's done on the scene and then when they get back into
the house it uploads into the system so the Nippers reports are complete um and then the other two are are bumped to Future years the next one up would be power DMS so this is a system the police use the same same system it's for policy management um
police probably use it a lot more extensively they have a lot more policies and procedures they have to sign off on but it allows for uh training tracking and everything and and just implementing and sending out policies easier can't use the same licensing no
unfortunately we yeah gone down that road just separate systems they have their own account set up that way we could try and um discuss that with them and greater and see what we could work out with them but this is the
vendor or that with the vendor yeah they just want because police is really a totally different animal um they keep that completely separate so does anyone have any questions on the fire or do you you want to add
anything I'm good to go I'm here to answer questions if not move on all right um does anyone have any questions before we jump over to water because everything else we pretty much talked about the last time um not much has
changed if you look with the addition of fire and the bump in those two other lines it and traffic you know we're aing for 2 million we're at 2,1 19,000 so think we're pretty close and the added expenses seem justified but
welcome any feedback um how how comp do you feel in the grant numbers that you're quoting in there for the net Deb in this number the grant numbers in here are solid um actually expecting what it doesn't include is we've been diving in on another Grant um that was applied for
at the end of uh 24 so that is not included yet uh I think that's around 100,000 so that would go towards the um Lions Park playground improvements also so if anything it would drop down a little bit and we actually did sorry one
thing to backtrack a little under PD um which helped balance out the number is we had an update on vehicle trust account and so that Patrol vehicle upfit was originally in for about 85200 $85,200 we actually dropped that
down to 20,000 we have about 55 to 60,000 in the vehicle trust that we use towards that purchase so we're able to drop that line down and the the agac at the pistol range we're we're feeling better about that number now we're feeling good with that number yeah Steve I have a question question
related to the grants I know we were talking about hiring a third party Grant company yep what's the status with that so uh that's going to be included in the operating so we included that in the Professional Services line under the admin budget so that'll be additional 30,000 you'll see and we'll bring that
up at the next meeting okay thank you yep all right all right so we can jump over to water now which is this is all new um so if we want to just go down and kind of explain so that infrastructure Improvement line that first one
typically we've been doing 125,000 every year um obviously I think we're we're all in agreement that that's probably pretty low for all the things we're facing right now so we doubled that this year um we could probably do even more um but I will note that that's just a
general infrastructure we use that for a lot of different equipment and repairs what we don't have outlined here is kind of the unknown that we are working on with the water quality committee and h2m so as we get further along with that and they really get in and and we let them
loose on the system we'll be able to identify some more you know detailed Capital costs um so you know if things like that come up for this year we would just have to you know maybe do an emergency or a separate Bond ordinance um for those specific projects but for
right now this is what we have knowledge of feel good about the number doubling I I would double that number even yeah I mean I just 100,000 for the yeah I just you just know it's going
to come yeah I I think it's a starting point this seems fair you know we are doubling it we know we could get a lot done with that so um large list on here you know obviously we need to to do all these things are we sure we can accomplish all of these this year budgeting for you
know 13 Light items there um yeah I I think so I feel pretty confident there's no I wouldn't say there's real a lot of wants in here these are all pretty solid needs um you know maybe a little flexibility but I I think they all make
sense for the most part we tried to keep out anything we really didn't need just knowing what we're facing so we have a tapping machine now so we have a tapping machine it is um I was told it was it's about from 1979 1970s not that it doesn't work behind
right but I've heard it it is old it doesn't get a lot of use and parts are an issue if if it does break or anything okay we have a line five in there was a leak detection monthly survey yes so we have that in fy2 is that something
that's going to continue out is that an operating line is that a capital line so that's kind of what Mike and I just discussed today was this was kind of the initial outet but if it works out well so it's almost like we want to try this get it in see how it goes if it works
out well this would be shifted to operating yeah cuz just for an example they did a couple um leak surveys over on Waldwick a few streets over there it's about $44,000 yeah that's that's conservative
the guy really Cuts us a break yeah and one thing they noted um at least the one company you know we would have to get different quotes and everything but the equipment the nodes that go in as if they go down a break they would be replaced you know with no
additional charge so this would be kind of the Allin cost for that yeah that's a great system lers so again just additional data collection helping us monitor the system
constantly MH identify brakes early um to go back up to the well 3 rehab um so this was kind of a new one for me so I guess when Wells are are drilled they kind of uh Flack it in a way and please correct me if I'm misspeaking but you
know they kind of they break it right so you get the water in what happens over time is those cracks fill in with dirt sediment and it clogs it up so this is kind of this is a rring for lack of a better term the option we're looking at the engineer is actually a chemical
fracking instead of like a physical they actually you know shock it which which one's well three uh well three is the tennis courts okay not the one that there covered tennis court a little bit of an issue with yeah we've had some pump issues yeah is that what it was
yeah this issue we think so so that one was uh sucking dry and we think it was partially because of this issue okay uh the safety equipment is pretty standard Ed um you know some Shoring and just additional safety equipment for our
guys we don't have that right now so think it'd be helpful you know the Route 17 repair we needed the Shoring um luckily we had a subcontractor on that job for other reasons too and they had all that proper equipment but it'd be nice to have some of this in housee yeah to keep our guys safe yeah and the steel
plating obviously um going down to the well five electrical upgrades so that that's a big number there 200,000 so originally this was included in the water treatment project um scope but it was pulled out to try and drop the you know the price
down the cost down so we could actually get it awarded so that was pulled out so that's why this request is back in um that well building does Need Just a complete overhaul of the electrical system so you know new service new panel um to accommodate you know the hookup
for the generator also is included in that all new wiring conduits you know the whole deal um going down a couple quick items the hydraulic breaker attachment for the backo just to allow um easier digging you know for DPW and same with the
grading bucket for the excavator um the hydrant and stock parts that's actually a little high this year because we weren't able to do it just with the budget last year our operating budget was pretty tight so we didn't get the restock that we typically like to do
um with the budget so that's why that's at 85 and then you'll see cut next year drops back down to about 45,000 that's a standard restock for all the valves you know different pipes uh wellhouse roof Replacements at 28,000 uh we have some in there now we
three has been completed so this is for four five six and seven to get those done that price is pretty solid um so feel we feel confident with that number um going down you'll see there's actually to two toweh uh
generators so one for the wellous to to hook into and then another one for the booster station um you know we thought the question might come up if why do we need two can we just utilize the same obviously if we have a massive power outage you need two two separate ones so
we can't be down so it's just to cover us we have nothing right now um no yeah small small portable small generators and also two they can use these for the um sanitary pumps too yeah we'd be able to use this for more than
just those yeah uh the wet tap machine we we touched on briefly and then the last item is the uh New Field sample stations um so this would be for three new new sample stations throughout town and we would be able to a water department
would be able to do all of their samples from those spots so all the different types the the bacterial and pepos everything from one spot does anyone have any questions if we start to do I I how what's that money going to come from yeah that was in the other budget I
think INF I think we should start that yeah we definitely I think we wanted to get a little more detail on the ini I but yeah we do want to include that yep that's very important that'll keep our course down a little bit and I know the S Authority mentioned they would be
working with us on that absolutely all right that's it anybody have any questions or any comments no okay all right great thank you all right thank you so Capital should be pretty solid uh next meetings March we'll focus on operating then
thank you are we meeting 6:30 again 7:30 okay uh we'll go back unfinished business anybody from the council have any unfinished business nope okay new business from the council anybody I do sir unfinished a new we have to know oh no you know what it is new
okay anybody have unfinished business none okay he's a new new business business yes new Mr Mayor uh met with the environmental committee uh last Thursday uh they presented some items did send that out to Steve Steve and I
discussed some of the items uh I think one of the items that actually incurs C is t-shirts uh for the membership uh we've actually gotten more members on board and they're taking a very good active role uh we have a member from the
high school who is planning on doing weekly or monthly uh cleanups over by giant market um you know we did tell her that we would need to have disclosures from family members that are minors so that
they could do the work and Steve said will be working on that form and then we'll move forward with that uh they did make uh they would like to present to the council uh the presentation on the flower boxes that they had put some work into they actually put together a design
and what potential cost we would probably look at doing it and trying to secure grant money to do it over by Hopper a on the north side of the bridge so it would have Southern
Exposure so the flowers grow and they get change them seasonally working with the vcation team as well as the Green Team uh the other item that they brought up and we brought it up at the traffic study was there seems to be a high
incident rate of gear uh Crossings uh to potentially put up signs as part of the traffic study would be a Nal cost uh the police department they're well aware of where the pinch points are but but then we also said it might be something as simple as sending out a note uh and
seeing if the residents can also tell us where they see those issues I think the last item was um up over by Route 17 the state was nice enough to plant but it didn't do what I would call
a standup job they did the best they could yeah but I mean I think the DPW maintains it and even they said that they can't believe how they just basically halfhazard they put it in we had a gentleman in town that offered
to mentioned what type of flowers would be good for that area uh basically things that are drought tolerant no mainten but look good um we also they also suggested look at the oneup in Allandale which those seem to be very
robust and they're well maintained so uh again the state I don't think has any problem with it because doing all the work then the bur would probably have to incurve some cost with I it would be a nominal cost cuz they would take what's there that's working and just move them
around and reant and put it in organized structure you're talking about the area on rout 17 Route 17 yeah that when that was put in everything that's there was not supposed to be there that wasn't the plan they put their own stuff so what we'll do is give us a list of uh what you're thinking about putting in there
and we'll reach out to them yep and we'll see what happens happens and also reach out to Tom who's the new guy and find out cuz Kelly needs to know I think the date when we want to do a cleanup last item uh for birthday of the
past couple years we've actually done presentations uh not well not really well viewed by the residents one item that we did do and they all brought it up as a topic is when we did do the town cleanup we probably had over a 100
residents come in and support that Kelly can tell you we probably got rid of close to four dump trucks of garbage just between Pro Park that path between the residence homes and the board of bed
property and then HCA Park H park there was a lot of the great well I shouldn't say h park it was the park that we own which now has a pathway through but there was still some items in there uh that we couldn't remove because they were just too heavy so we would ask to
uh also have the the gator Come so that we can get those bigger items out of there so I don't know if that would be something securing one the DPW uh employees to help when we do that clean up but we'll give you a date in April as to that yeah and just make sure the date is not a date in which another
organization is doing something because we always I will check with aana and Kelly before I book the date very good very good any anybody else on the new business if not we will open it up to the public anybody from the public would
like to comment please come up and just state your name hello police did them up um comment on the cleanup committee that you were just talking about and a date you know it would be a great date would be before the uh 5K so everything looks nice and
clean and usually it's like almost close to the date that they have the 5K not the same day no no I said it's usually close to the date yeah so what we'll do is we'll I just thinking it would be nice you know like where they walk along especially sometimes they walk along the
track area you know the railroad track there's a lot of garbage down there sometimes so um yes last week I or last meeting I think I heard and I could be wrong so forgive me if I
am but did you um mention cutting back garbage pickups to once a week no okay that was on Facebook I don't know where I heard it she mentioned something I didn't say it as a plan somebody was asking how you would
do that and I said one of the ways you would cut back would be to go to Once be garbage right okay somebody asked the question but it I heard I heard it from somewhere like here it was Happ okay good I just want to make sure it's not happening said people would go crazy if
we would done yes exactly I went crazy I was like I got to get here after work tonight all right thank you thank you take care anyone else Stan did you pay her to say that no
I didn't but I was happy to said that Stan Kowalski um I just want to make a comment there's two of our chamber members Chris James as well as rosell's they plant down by 17 and also over here at the clock tower and I've been getting
complaints from Bruce that the flowers aren't irrigated sobody and I think I've spoken to you about that too so I think we need a plan um and I know we have irrigation down here we have a sprinkler system that needs to be looked at if you want to implement that CHR Chris James
had told me that that especially during the hot summer months you know you don't want to lose the flowers so it's nice enough they donate it they don't really have the manpower to come byy once a week to check it so I think if you want to make it keep it nice down there and colorful uh we need to have some sort of
plan a weekly just something I don't know it's DPW I know we planted these these trees along the way here they were out here watering them a year or two ago whatever it was so the other question I had the EV fast stations are we tracking that is anybody using those yeah yeah oh
um so everyone's using them I never see a car in there I'm just lot of we can actually we have a we have a whole portal where we could see who's plugged in the new charges like it gives you a whole range per month who's using it unique drivers that are using it it's
getting used uh extensively lot of State Drivers we're optimally located right off the highway so people see it in their vehicle and they pull over and it's just a few blocks down does get any revenue from that yep we're making we do okay good and you can pull some data
Maybe for the next meeting we'll try and pull some data for p by the train station yeah May 4th is the 5K 17th year um the town's been really supportive and I want to thank you guys and it's always sparkling clean so but up the good work thank
you anyone else if not do I have a motion to go in I have a motion to adjourn motion by somebody please Joe second by Mike all those in favor all