We'll take a tissue. Mark, >> yes. >> Do you remember removal for that Monroe property? >> Yeah, that was a subdivision years ago. >> Like two and a half years ago. Yeah. And
they they were granted major soil at that time. >> Yeah. >> Huh. Because I don't rec I don't recall. >> Yeah. Maybe >> patience. >> Wow. You ready? call this order uh meeting to order and
we will have the open public meeting announcement. This is a regularly scheduled meeting for which the date, time, and location is set forth in the annual notice of meetings adopted by the Waldo Planning Board at the reorganization meeting of January 2025
in accordance with the open public meetings act. Said annual notice has been filed with the burough clerk, a copy posted in the vestibule of the Waldwick administration building and copies transdated by the governing body. Vote, please. >> Miss Battle Miss Battle Levente.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Gardano >> here. >> Mr. Shettz. >> Mr. Miselik. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pelico, >> excuse me. Mr. Basilica. >> Mr. Raundo >> here. >> Mr. Kowalsski >> here.
>> Mr. Vort. >> Mr. Panfile. >> Here. >> Mr. Fink >> here. >> Mr. Schultz. Uh, please join us in a moment of silent prayer and the pledge of allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. Now is the time. Anyone uh in the audience have business that is not on
the agenda is welcome to come up at this time. Seeing none, uh all planning board members have copies of the minutes which are from July 9th which was the meeting rescheduled from
July 2. Uh we all have copies. May I have a motion to accept as printed? Motion by mayor and second by Mark. All in favor? >> Any opposed?
Uh motion carries unanimously. Thank you. And we have no resolutions on the agenda this evening. We have an application for Baliwala SM25-210
Birch Lane. Please microphone. >> Uh, if you speak and project, >> we should be okay. >> I'm sorry. >> Who are you? >> Cory Vanderbach. I'm the engineer of the applicant. >> Okay, Mr. Vanderv, give me a moment.
to be testifying. Raise your right hand. Do you swear testimony of reputationally the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth of your God? >> Yes, I do. >> State your name. Spell your last >> Cory Vandervok V an D E R V A L K. >> Okay, Mr. Vandervok, we are well aware
of Schwan Reed House and Vince. However, I can't remember whether you've been in front of us before or not. You may well have, but my memory is failing. So, if you could give us the benefit of your um education and experience.
>> Sure. Uh I'm a licensed civil engineer. I graduated from the New Jersey Institute of Technology in New Jersey uh in Burton County as well as this board um for previous application. All right,
members of the board, once again we have in front of us Mr. Vanderbach who presents as a civil engineer. He is an expert in that field. As a result, he is entitled to give his opinion as to the ultimate
result of various facts to which he will also testify. No doubt. To the extent that you find his opinions to be helpful, you are entitled to rely upon them. To the extent that you disagree with his conclusions, you are absolutely entitled to not rely upon his
conclusions and reach a different conclusion. However, he is under oath. So the facts presents will be the facts. Floor is yours, sir. >> Thank you very much, uh, Mr. Chairwoman, Mr. Mayor, members of the board. Um, so
tonight we are discussing, uh, the property located at 10 Birch Lane, also known as lot 18.04 in block 163.16. Uh, this property is located in the R1
residential district. This property is currently vacant. Um, it was created via minor subdivision prepared by our office in 2022. Uh, you may uh remember some months ago, I think it was in January of
this year. I appeared before you for six Birch Lane, the next door neighbor. Uh, that house is currently being built. So we have a vacant property that slopes from the single family dwelling on the
vacant property. We are not seeking any variances from which is the lot width which is was previously approved as part of the subdivision at 95 ft where 100 ft is required. But once again we are not requesting any additional variances. The
reason we are before you tonight is the soil movement associated with the project. The total soil movement is 1,9695 cubic yards of fill which includes the soil as well as stone for the for the chambers uh that we are proposing for
the storm water system. There's a total of 736 cubic yards of import. We are also proposing storm water management systems to mitigate the storm water runoff that will be um a result of
the project. There are three different systems, one in the front yard and two in the backyard. The we are also in receipt of Mr. McInness's engineer uh engineering review dated July 29th. I have recruited and spoken
as well with Mr. McGinness and we have no uh take no exceptions saying his comments. We will uh resolve them directly with Mr. McGinness. Um that is really all I have to present. It's a fairly uh standard um dwelling. The as I
mentioned we are not requesting any variances. In fact it's going to be under the improved lot coverage limit as well as the maximum floor area. So, I believe that this um well is a good fit for this property.
>> All right, Mr. Vandervok, if you could help me out just a minute. I'm looking at the um actual plan and you've got the statistical data on going down the right side and number 11 is solment
and I see Phil of 986 cut of 279 both cubic yards and help me understand given the fact that you testified to a total of 1,095
cubic yards being the total um the total movement rather than additional >> soil movement is the larger of the cut and fill quantities. So in this case it's actually 980 86 yards of the fill
plus the total stone that is being brought to the property of 109 cubic yards. So if you add up 986 plus >> Okay. So that's where we get it. >> Correct. Okay. Because when I sit down to write this, I
will not remember that. Okay. And we're looking at a total import of 736 cubic yards. >> That's correct. So that >> so if you were to add up all the numbers
986 the 279 cubic yard of cut and subtract again the 80 cubic yard of cut for the drainage sheets and that should add up to 736. Yes. 736. >> Thank you.
I'm not going to lie. I find every engineer does this a little differently. And >> so, as soon as I think I've got the numbers and understand how they come about, I don't. >> Um, all right. You didn't address trees. If you could please.
>> Yes. So, we are proposing to remove on the plan. It shows I believe 46 trees. However, many of those have been removed. Um, I can't say when. Um, it was since the subdivision was approved.
I would say approximately 2/3 of them or so have previously been removed. Um there are still some along the northern property line and I believe along the rear that will also come out. Um but total from the survey that's shown is 46
to be removed. Uh four of those are qualified trees and therefore need replacements. So we are proposing four replacement trees as well. >> Now qualified is by virtue of diameter correct >> diameter and purpose for the um further
removal. So if it's the construction of a home, construction of a driveway, storm water management chambers, those are exempt from replacements. >> Got you. And but you all were the engineers on the subdivision, right?
>> Yes, we were the engineers for the original subdivision. >> Okay. So the trees that were removement plan coming in, we've accounted for all all of them and we only wind up with
four that require replacement on the entire property. >> So, can I jump in? >> Sure. >> The trees that were removed on the entire lot before subdivision were actually removed before we adopted the
ordinance. >> Gotcha. Okay. We got beaten to the punch. Fair enough. >> Yes. Thank >> you. Leave you alone on the trees then.
>> I appreciate >> um maintenance plan for the storm water system. Is there is there a necessity for one? >> Um I don't think it was necessarily maintenance plan. However, I believe notes will be added basically stating
that the uh the homeowner is to inspect the system um I believe with when the rain any significant rainfall I think it's over 2 in which we have no problems. >> Okay. And that's contained in um in the VA report.
>> Correct. Yes. >> Okay. and you will also comply with any subsequent vasel recommendations and reports. Okay, before I yield this whole thing, Mr. McGinness, is there anything we didn't address?
>> One question I have that right now look at the plans the walls on both sides there. Are you proposing any landscaping or fences along those walls, especially on the north side? >> Okay. >> Maybe something to consider just because
of the the fall height there. Uh you have a 4 foot high response there. >> It's a long area. So something to >> I'm sure would have no problem. I I must chime in here because when you
have a retaining wall um the total height of the fence also includes the height of the retaining wall. Meaning is that let's say if you're starting over with a 4ft wall the maximum height of the fence could be only two feet meaning the six foot. >> I I mean I think we prefer landscaping
rather than fence. I believe >> as long as you know they off >> on number 12 of the storm water management you stating uh or Boswell stated no drainage from the property shall affect adjacent properties both during and subsequent to construction.
Should any adjacent properties be affected by runoff from the property, the owner shall be responsible to remedy the matter? How would you remedy it? >> You have to wait to see what happens. >> Yes. While the plan would obviously be to um ensure that that doesn't happen.
If something happened during construction that did require remediation, that would be the applicant's responsibility. >> And even afterwards, >> even afterwards, >> even a couple years down the road. >> Correct. >> Plan gives full containment. >> Uh well, yes. So, we are
>> in the sense of containing it on the property. >> Correct. Correct. >> In compliance with the statute. >> Correct. Maybe it would help if you explain the the drainage. >> Yeah, so uh we are collecting the entire roof area. Uh that's the larger drainage system that's located in the middle of
the backyard. We also collecting the driveway area uh with the six chambers proposed in the front yard. And then also there is a right in the bottom of the wall, the proposed wall in the north side, there's a bit of a depression naturally if you drive by the site. Um, so we also installed catch bases on the
low side of that wall to try to catch some of that runoff before it goes on the neighbor and keep it on our site. So that's why we bring it back and install drainage chambers on our site um so as not to impact the neighbors. >> What if you know what is the current
drainage pattern naturally? So the topography drains from the the north I would say it's the norththeast to the southwest but also just north to south. So all the water is coming from uphill uh going towards the northern property
line which is why we felt it was important especially in that low area to install those catch basins. >> And then also the neighbors on lot one and two they're also pitched towards that lot line. So that that line is pretty much the low point.
>> Thank you. hours of operation when you could remove the >> Yes. A lot of problems with that. >> They try to get in and out before time and it's not fitted. >> Can you tell me the width between the
northern retaining wall and the uh the property line? >> I believe it's 4T. Typically, it's the height of the wall. Just want to confirm that's an area that can be maintained. >> Yes. 4T from the property line to the wall. >> Thank you.
Joe, you mentioned the subdivision was done before the tree ordinance. So when they do each lot, doesn't it have to adhere to the ordinance at this time? >> No, >> the trees were cut actually before the subdivision and before the ordinance
tree ordinance was adopted. So therefore, we didn't have any tree ordinance. Therefore, anyone could as many as they want. >> And how about now moving forward for this law? >> That's why a couple of the trees that they proposing to remove, they have an option either pay $450
per tree. Um stipulation is that the caliber of the tree planted tree has to be minimum 2 in in caliber and has to be 10 ft high and they can plant those anywhere within their property. >> Thank you. Any other planning board members have
questions? >> Mr. Chairman, question. >> Yes, please. >> Have you coordinated with the police on the the route for the sol that will be done now? Okay. structure is 2 and 12 stories tall.
>> That's correct. >> Square footage. Uh so the footprints of the building is 2769. Uh square footage is 4,751. >> Are there plans for that structure yet?
Look similar to the building that's going up there right now. >> I'm sorry. Can you >> Are there plans made for that structure already? >> Yes. Uh architecture plans were prepared. set of prepared by Z plus architects. I believe they were part of
the package. >> This side on the right side of the property is looking street. >> Thank you. So when you said that the retaining wall was 4T away from the structure, so that means there was some property behind the retaining wall
>> 6 ft from the wall to the building. Thank >> Okay, ma'am. If you could step up to the microphone, state your name, spell your last, and give us your address. >> Judy Veron from Five Long View Court. Um, we're right behind this property.
Um, and may I just >> Can I say your name again? >> Judy Veron. V as in Victor. E R R O N E. >> And may I just respectfully suggest that this would have been much more uh of a um uh informative presentation had we
been able to see it. >> Um I thought think it could have been positioned somewhere. So that >> right now this is questions. >> I'm sorry. There's a structure to this. >> You mentioned structure. Yes. The structure. The structure is right now you have the opportunity to question.
>> I I understand swearing you in is that questions almost inevitably present facts as well. So we are making sure that the facts you present are accurate. That being said, after all questions are asked, including
questions from the public, then the floor will be open to comments. And at that point, >> All right. So, would you just like me to ask a question now? Is that it? >> Precisely. >> Long View, which is immediately behind this property. Um I don't I haven't seen
so I can't really tell what was being said about um drainage issues other than the system that's going to be installed is um um supposed to be taking care of any runoff that might occur from this property to adjacent properties
including my property. And did I hear a representation made that if there is a runoff that occurs even after the drainage system is in that the owner is going to remedy it and be responsible for that? Is that what I heard? >> Yes. Yes, ma'am.
>> Okay. And will that be made part of a condition to the resolution of approval? Actually, >> by reference to the U stormwater statute that we have in the U New Jersey statutes, that is a requirement under
that statute. And by reference to that statute, that is incorporated that they must ultimately have zero runoff. >> All right. I'm an attorney, so I have some familiarity with that, but I just
want to be sure. Um, I think again that's all the questions I have right now because I couldn't really give you any other questions without having seen the rest of the representation. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So, I do have a comment in reference to
the water runoff. You know, right now the way the property is is sloped the high is actually at W Avenue. So all that water is running straight downwards toward Long View and and Bay if I'm not mistaken.
>> Vend thank you. Um right now with having the two homes being built, the first house also had to install seepage pits to contain all the runoff within their property. This house will have its own. So a lot of the subterranean water that's running right
now, surface water and subterranean water is basically going freeall from White Oak Avenue toward the bottom portion of the property including the property at Vanc Court. Um so by having the seage pits I think
it's going to improve the situation. Uh and Mr. McInness can probably concur with that as well. The seage fits in the first property are already in place. >> Correct. They being actually I spoke to the contractor was part of the project to begin with just like this one would
have required as part of the construction, you know, permit application and everything else. >> So yes, they are also installing the seage plates according to the total runoff from your your roof line, your sidewalks, your driveway and everything
else. and so will this house as well. >> I guess I was wondering if we have a any um measure yet of whether the drainage plan that's been put in place is effective on the first.
>> They were I spoke to the contractor literally two days ago and they were in process of of starting to put that in place. >> Okay. All right. So we we haven't seen actual results yet. >> Correct. >> Yes. If I may say, as was noted, um the
existing conditions do direct runoff towards the back. So, what we do is not going to eliminate that. There still will be runoff from that entire hill going towards that area. It's not going to totally eliminate it. Basically, what our plan is to make sure that we're not making it worse. Uh basically, we're
keeping our water on our property, but the there's still plenty of other water that's going to make its way down there. >> Thank you for clarifying. How do folks differentiate between what was already happening to their property, maybe five
long view cord, um, and what will happen when the house is there? Like they're getting water already. So does that mean Mr. Ali well we'll have to fix that situation? No because we're not adding
to it. Correct. >> So it becomes a matter of determining basically as the situation been we do is basically modeling storm water. So um when we you model say vacant property um there is still a certain amount of water that goes down into the low points. Um
now when we model the essentially what we do then is the areas that are being collected are pretty much removed from that model essentially because that area is being collected. So basically what the end result is is that the leftover land is less than what was previously
before. >> Okay. Because I feel like some folks might decide to have some work done then. >> Yeah. I mean it is um you know storm water is definitely a tricky thing. >> Yeah. And we wouldn't want that to happen too.
>> So that's uh yeah. So that's pretty much all the impervious areas proposed are being collected in this plan. >> So um anything that is draining weight to uh downhill is is blonde. It's not um it's not a pool or driveway or house,
>> right? That's important for the neighbors to know that. Um and you wouldn't unless you came to find out about it. So good for you guys. Anyone else?
>> This reminds me of a situation where Salana came in front of for all the approvals who were neighbors on Bayan and also Cambria were really very upset. Yes. For the assisted living. >> Exactly. For the assisted living. know that all the water is going to create major issues for from any of those
residents down below that they have any compounded water problems. >> Did it get better? >> It got better. >> You're taking the area away and you're collecting it. So, it's going to get better. >> Right. Comments from the board.
comments from the public if anybody would like to >> again 514 again since I didn't have the opportunity to finish my statement >> I could start >> respectfully
>> would say um at some point when these presentations are being made it's more useful for the public to be able to see what is being presented Um it's very difficult to I didn't see any of the any of the presentation regarding um runoff regarding uh
anything having to do with the site regarding the topography any of a comment that I'm concerned about if I can't see the presentation >> and you're absolutely right and usually we have the presentation over there um most of the time we're quite honestly
not used to anybody in the audience you what >> we we're not used to anyone being in the audience So we're making that because it really should be over there. So thank you for making that. >> Should I also chime into this? >> Yes, of course. >> Because part of the reason you're here
because you were noticed, you know, for major oil moving permit, that means anyone within 200 ft of the property line >> is supposed to be noticed and you have been noticed. >> Through that notice, you also given the opportunity to stop and at the borrow to view the plants. That is not the same as
hearing the expert explain the plan. Most respectfully, I looked at the plans before we came. Okay. >> So, I know what it looks like, but I didn't see the presentation. And I have a question actually concerning the permits that were referenced for I guess
it's it's lot eight, right? This is 10 eight birch, right? Would have been the property that's under construction right now. >> Six. >> Six. Okay. Six. We did not get notice of a permit application for any drainage for that
property. >> You were noticed when the when they came in for major soil moving >> when what >> when they came for major soil moving application >> we never got any >> that should have been part of the if
unless they're more than 200 feet. >> Well then some I don't I don't see how we could have been more than 200 feet. If we're 200 ft from this property, our property is >> it's don't forget it's ft over. What's I mean he's housing tax up right there.
>> Five long. >> So you're the corner lot here, right? >> No long backyard. >> That's five right there. This is Long. >> Yeah, that's it. >> Yeah. So here's >> Yes. You're adjacent. So we're So this
is us right now tonight, >> right? >> Then this is six. So you're next, >> right? Exactly. >> So yeah, >> that I don't have an answer for you because you know the list that is prepared to give or actually given to the applicant at that time is prepared
by the tax department and the owner the applicant is supposed to notice everybody within that 200 foot list. So the fact that she didn't get noticed I I don't support but you should have been. >> I know it should have been. >> Uh isn't that a jurisdictional issue?
It can't be. >> All right. So, I'd appreciate if I don't know if it's through your office or somewhere where >> I think you have to go to Burough Hall. >> I'm sorry. >> You I think you need to make a visit downstairs >> to the to >> and find out who you speak to about that.
>> And what gets done about it just for future reference if nothing else. But yeah, that would be >> when you get a list of all from the tax department of all the neighbors, then you compared the mailings against the addresses that you were given.
>> Yeah. >> So, we are we're giving the proofs of mailing. So, the truth of the matter is that they should be in the file even now. >> It seems to me that >> which means that right now is not the time because the board secretary is on
vacation. welldeserved vacation, >> I would say. >> But you can make a request that you get to see the
list and the proofs for what is it? Sorry, I keep losing track. >> Number six. >> Number six. >> Six B. >> Six Birch. So the requirement is of course is that
they go to the post office and send it out uh with certified letter not certified return receipt but >> no I understand >> so as of right now we don't know if we were on that list of from the tax department so but again >> right but if so if I check with the
board secretary, the planning board secretary. She should have the application which should have the addresses of people who should have been noticed. >> Exactly. >> Okay. Thank you very much. >> The fact that you were on this list >> makes it most likely you were on the
other, but we'll have to see. >> 200 foot list can be can be um not what we always think it would be. >> And then we also have the post office to content with as well.
>> We also have the post office to content as well. >> Yeah, >> maybe maybe it's still in road. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That could really be true. >> Serious. >> Yes. >> Um but feel free to ask Melissa if you're still here when we adjourn. Uh
she'll give you the board secretary's email address and you can start there. Thank you for your comment. Um, >> no, no, we're going to get the email address for Joyce. >> Yeah. >> Um, is >> without being sworn.
>> Oh, well, he can get sworn in, right? >> Sir, you swear the testimony you're grafting here should be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So, you got >> state your name, spell your last, please. and the application >> and the spelling of your last name,
please for the record. >> B A L I W A. >> Thank you very much. >> Yeah. Thankfully, I appreciate all all the time and your consideration. I just wanted to assure my neighbor, our future neighbor, uh I I totally understand that
you're not able to uh presentation. Uh but again, if you would like to again, I don't mind having this presation again offline outside of this but again
I would love for any >> thank you >> anyone else seeing none um >> may we have a motion motion. I'm getting there. Thank you for keeping me on
track. I certainly appreciate that. >> But thank you. Motion uh for our attorney to draw up a resolution uh motion by Stan and second by Matt. >> We just make sure that it's emphasized
about drainage and the responsibility of the owner. That's very >> important. We're on record. Very good. Um, secretary, please call the role. >> Miss Balmente, >> yes. >> Mayor G. >> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Roundo. >> Yes. >> Mr. Kowski? >> Yes. >> Mr. Po? >> Yes. >> Mr. F? >> Yes. >> Thank you so much for your time. Good luck to you. >> Thank you. >> Oh, I'm sorry. We did have one question. >> Yes. Oh, time's up.
>> No. No. uh for the building purposes, you need to wait till next month or >> Joe permits. >> No, you could submit. >> Thanks so much. >> Thank you, gentlemen. >> Uh we're up to old business. Any old
business besides all the folks that are up here? >> No offense. >> Yeah, you >> I don't have any updates on that. I mean, >> I don't have an empty up update for you. So, I I can't tell you. I don't know.
>> Aren't they working on it? >> Don't have an update. >> This house is going to be completed. >> No. Call in the United way and tell me your concerns. >> Pick up the phone yet. You have nothing to do. >> There might be a specific gentleman that came to this meeting though.
>> Toronto, Mr. Toronto to him. >> You got to speak to the attorney. I don't think it's your responsibility to reach out to anybody. >> It's not the responsibility of >> It's not from the planning board from somebody just a citizen in town. >> Just curious.
>> You're on the fence of who you are and your >> Well, we're representing the planning board. >> Yeah. >> Unfortunately, it's a conflict of interest. >> Yeah. Uh, new business. Any new business? >> I just want to thank Melissa. Thank you very much.
>> Yeah, we we said thank you so much. >> The concert to be here. Thank you very much. >> That's okay. >> And we're not going to sing, but thanks anyway. Any news, Mr. Mayor? >> No, nothing. Everything's quiet on the Western. >> Oh, boy. That means it's chaos. >> It's coming.
>> Yeah. >> Thanks, Joe. I'm so glad I was prepared.