[Music] everyone ready okay good evening everyone welcome to the regularly scheduled public meeting of april 7 2025 of the township of washington township council adequate notice the meeting was given in accordance with the open public
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washington contact all council members at once twwp of washington us can everyone please stand for a salute to the flag to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible
with liberty and justice for all roll call councilman cassium here councilman sears here councilman omen here councilwoman bz here council president here let the record reflect also in attendance mayor calamari township administrator d carlo township
attorney mrs bailey and township clerk mrs wukowski and cfo on zoom and cfo on zoom thank you payment of bills resolution number 25-203 authorized payment of bills march 14 2025 to april 3rd 2025 do i have a
motion so move second any discussion roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman yes council bz yes council president denna yes psa for april 7 2025 primary
election date change please note the primary election will now be held tuesday june 10th all voting takes place at town hall hours are 6:00 a.m to 8:00 p.m the new jersey motor vehicle commission inspection unit will be at the bethany community center on thursday
may 15th from 9:00 a.m to 3:00 p.m registration is required please visit our website for further detail the township of washington dpw is currently seeking one or two part-time seasonal workers for up to 29 hours per week a valid driver's license is required
applicants must be 18 years or older please visit our website for further information washington township fire department pancake breakfast will be held on sunday april 13th from 8:00 a.m to 1:00 p.m at the emergency services building please visit our website for
further details the washington township fire department's annual easter egg hunt will be held on saturday april 19th at memorial field beginning at 10:00 a.m please visit our website for further details the township of washington will be hosting its third annual family-friendly spring into wellness 5k
run walk health fair on saturday may 3rd registration is now open please visit the township website for more details the quantis club of the pasak valley meets on the second wednesday of each month at 6:30 p.m at the westwood community center if anyone would like more information please contact paul
ralph cardulli at 516-581-8319 or pasak valley kowanasgmail.com our next council meeting will be held on monday april 21st 2025 at 7 p.m thank you everyone we will now have a presentation
for the 2025 uh 2024 grant review for mr buno good evening mr buno good evening council president members of the council mayor business administrator there are u i believe you have a copy of my report uh there were
some interesting developments over the last year up to the present u going through them the 2024 bergen county open space grant uh in the amount of 84,227 was awarded uh and there's a
resolution before the council right now authorizing the mayor and of course the business administrator to sign the necessary contract documents uh this grant is important uh not in the immediate uh use uh of the funds but
once the demolition and remediation work is completed this money would be used to develop the property for planning and construction purposes cannot be used for demolition but for planning design and site work and preliminary construction
can be used that's one of the resolution that's on i believe is resolution 25-208 on tonight's agenda authorizing the acceptance of that grant and authorizing the mayor to sign the contract uh i also filed the 2025 open
space park improvement grant letter a declaration of intent uh for ada improvements at memorial field and at clarkfield uh the ada improvements at memorial field include ada parking uh
bleachers access and a ramp and a clark field is for uh gym equipment that's ada compliant uh there is none now uh there's several reimbursements grants that i filed paper
for papers for that we've been reimbursed on including the uh close out of the njem grant and uh the $153,000 for u excuse
for the original grant that we got in 2014 for the emergency generator and also for the safer grant all those monies have been uh closed out the funds received by the township uh the one disappointment was that we were
initially awarded in a federal appropriation of $600,000 for the musk quapsync book project uh that was approved by congress and inserted into the bills that were to been adopted however when the continuing
resolution was adopted by the 118th congress after the the uh president uh paired it down all that cpf which is community funded projects were deleted uh about a week after that happened paul
tuy who's the legislative director for uh congressman godheimer had called me and told me that they were opening up a new round for the 119th congress uh and to refile that application which i did for
$660,000 which was the original amount we requested they funded 600,000 so that initial application has been funded is pending in congress right now waiting further action it probably will not happen till october when the final budget is approved by
congress can i'm sorry can you just repeat that so the initial award or the initial request was not moved forward it was funded by
congress but in the final budget it was removed by president trump okay so that's that was the 118th congress we're now in the 119th congress and i basically resubmitted the same application at the behest of uh cole pal
uh tui who is the legislative director in washington for congressman godheimer and what what are the dates we should be looking for cuz this to your point was submitted uh early last year
and we just found out it was cancelled a couple of weeks ago i believe or was removed so what does the timing look like for this at this point well he seemed uh optimistic again it's what happens with the final budget i couldn't
guarantee you it's going to happen again except that the congressman's office contacted me and it was a very short window only like 5 days to reapply immediately which i was able to do um and then it's subject to the final budget being approved by congress uh at
the i think it's october 1st okay thank you now there will be some additional information based upon last year's application i anticipate supplemental uh submissions that i'll have to prepare and send as this moves forward and of
course we'll keep you all apprised of those developments thank you but if we didn't do that initial we would be ineligible so we're in it okay that's pretty much it if you have any questions in particular about anything
in the ground i'd be happy to answer mr fiona would you mind just updating the council if you remember in december we kind of piggybacked two grant applications to accommodate everything we wanted to do at memorial field yes i think you were contacted by one of the
entities and asked were we asked to withdraw is that a a good word and how we addressed we uh with memorial field we followed a local recreation improvement grant through department of community affairs to create a walkway around the perimeter
of memorial field that would come down out to pascac road and link up to 450 pascac road once that is acquired by the township which i understand is imminent we also filed a bergen county cdbg application for ada access at that
facility and i was contacted by um robert espazito advised that not to use that application but to move forward and file a bergen county open space application so the improved ada improvements that we're going to use
under the cdbg uh were submitted under the open space program not the community development block grant uh component the other part of that is the ada gym equipment at clark field which is a separate grant
and that'll be the resolution prepared for the 21st that's the resolution that's the second resolution that's on tonight so this this is you know excellent news i mean if you look at the four or five pages uh the amount of
funding that we've received applications pending just i just have one uh suggestion or request is it possible just to segregate those items that are have been for lack of a better term resolved or
closed because it seems we have things going back to uh 2020 which may be true uh but you know is there any action you know you know no action required at this time but
you know we have a $74,000 gld grant i guess that we've received um so i guess i'm it's the last item on page three for a safer yes
so just are are these all pending at this point or is there i i this is basically what's transpired in the last year i mean there's other stuff uh that i've done that's not even on this report that's still uh in compliance or reporting things like that i was just
doing basically what efforts were expended over the last 12 months but i could speak with the business administrator and figure out a way to address what your your concerns i mean just really to know what
um you know what we've applied for and can be expecting type of thing versus what has been approved or awarded and sort of segregate that versus what's closed out uh mr tribunal i think what he's asking
if you look at the last page the report gives the impression that it was maybe grants from 2020 2122 but in mr alman understanding mr punos he's reflecting that on here because there was there was transaction
on those grants in 2024 so like the last entry for the safer grant we actually received all of that reimbursement in 2024 it was filed for um also on on page three if you go up a few there's a grant
from 2014 for an emergency generator right that um i resurrected i'll put it for one of a better term uh it took a lot of effort and because we changed locations two or three times uh we're able to get that reapproved and use that
$75,000 towards the emergency generator that's installed at the new fire headquarters so uh the business administrator is well aware of the efforts that were used uh to get that plate back into view so the report doesn't reflect everything he's gone for
or either approved or denied since 2020 it's just grants that may have been older than 2024 however there was transaction or some type of final action in 2024 on a lot of these grants which a lot of them were reimbursements that helps understand
that okay thank you mr wheeler report of the administrator uh good evening everyone thank you council president uh this evening there was no follow-ups or updates for the public or for council thank you report of the mayor
yes thank you good evening everyone uh recreation news the 2024 2025 basketball season has ended we congratulate all the teams that won championships in their divisions the 2025 lacrosse program has started their season i want to wish good
luck to all the teams if you are interested in volunteering to coach please contact dan scudiieri a background check for all volunteers 18 years of age and older is required the 2025 fun with cartooning program spring session has started the 2025 men's over
33 softball program registration has ended games will begin on monday april 28th the 2025 summer camp program registration opened on friday april 4th please visit the township of washington website recreation page for registration
and details on this and the many other program details police department news the department completed both the the first mandatory statemandated police officer defensive tactics training and quarterly white rifle training and qualifications
they were also pleased to take part in the budget process with the council fire department news for the month of march the department responded to the normal fire and co alarm calls one standby calling and paramis during a working house fire and a smoke condition
in a home caused by a furnace issue there was also one oven fire one report of an arcing wire down and a response to the parkway for a vehicle that made its way up an embankment that needed stabilization prior to the tow company removing it with a tow truck and crane
the department hosted a walkthrough of the chelsea facility with the westwood fire department and went on a walkthrough of the new multi-unit construction site in hillsdale a few members trained with the paramis fire department simulating structure fire
scenarios the department plans to continue training on different vehicle scenarios uh just to repeat from the psa they are happy to announce they will be hosting their annual pancake breakfast on april 13th from 8:00 a.m to 1:00 p.m at the firehouse and the annual easter
egg hunt at memorial field on saturday april 19th at 10 a.m they look forward to seeing many of their friends family and neighbors at these events dpw news the dpw began spring cleanup of all town parks fields and properties minor fence repair was done at clark
field and the cleveland woodfield walkway porter johns have been placed at the proper parks and fields memorial and clarkfield restrooms were open to the public metal and white goods were collected veteran banners were hung along pasc road and 5k banners were
installed at appropriate locations crews began collecting spring garden debris and windstorm damage around town and as always catch bas catch basins were inspected public affairs the department is busy planning future events for the residents enjoyment such as the memorial
day parade and summer concerts zoning office there were total of 27 zoning applications reviewed for the month of march library marchfield yoga story time steam book clubs stitching classes new
jersey makers day where residents can learn a variety of skills family story time a presentation of the irish step dancers paint nights special needs music classes book clubs and so much more national library week is kicking off
today keep your eyes open for special events and announcements municipal alliance footprints for life which is an anti-bullying program that has multiple visits over the course of six weeks has begun at washington school
for all of their third graders the drunk driving awareness prom campaign is being worked on safety town 25 is outlined and signups will begin in early may municipal court 297 total traffic tickets were issued during the month of
february of which 280 were issued by the washington township police department and 17 by the state police the court collected $5,539.82 cents in revenue to the township health advisory board the board
met to review the monthly reports issued by northwest berg and regional health alumni in recovery was recorded by wt wctv the board thanks wctv for their participation adolescent and young adults substance use disorder and mental
health were discussed thank you please fire for it thank you mr mayor council president can we let mr yes i was just going to ask you if mr bud can leave he doesn't need to yes i appreciate it the the only thing reason i asked him to stick around for the resolutions in case council brought up a question about any of the two resolutions that were on
there for the grants so if we could just suspend the meeting so mr bun i have i have two questions for you about the grants the the 80 motion and second and suspend the meeting i'll make a motion to i'll second it all in favor i mr
buuno on the 89,000 and change for 84 uh for the swim club you said it cannot be used for demolition only for design design site work construction but not specifically not demolition anything else planning design site work uh and
construction is permitted use but not demolition but not demolition not remediation or remediation or remediation okay and then the other the other uh was for the um the uh 2000 the godheimr grant
right you said 660 but in your notes it says 650 but what happened was we were when we applied last year applied for 660,000 they awarded us 600,000 so rather than ask for 6,000 take another
haircut i asked for the full amount again both you give us a reduced amount of comeback and place the same number all right any other questions on the two resolutions for m well thank oh mr thank you council president thank you mr b
miss veles yes report of the council thank you on march 29th i had the pleasure of attending the vietnam war commemoration ceremony held by vfw
post6192 and councilman sears you um you guys did a tremendous job honoring and welcoming our veterans it was nice to see an event so well attended so congratulations on doing such a great job thank you um that same night the
knight of columbus hosted its annual testimony dinner um i attended with councilman sears um council president denna and the mayor mayor kalamari as well um just want to thank all the outstanding contributions that these
volunteers um john brunelli bob stickle and venagri do to our community um your dedication to the township is what keeps our community moving forward and inspires others to do the same so thank you so much for your contributions and
if you have not seen the knights of columbus facility they really did a tremendous job of updating um the place so if you're ever looking for a spot to hold an event it's a it's a nice place um the 5k run walk and health fair
is taking place on saturday may 3rd 2025 at 9 9:00 a.m we're looking forward to hosting a fantastic event we've got a bunch of health vendors lining up the health part starts at 8 8 a.m and i know councilman sears will go a little
further into that registration is still available and to be guaranteed an event t-shirt you must be registered by 4:16 um sorry one second where' it go we
are still looking for volunteers and sponsorship opportunities are also still available uh thank you to all those sponsors who have already contributed in their donations we really appreciate your support uh with that being said we
are able once again to be offering a spring into wellness scholarship which is now open if you go on the website or the town um facebook page you will see all the criteria it is being awarded two scholarships for $500 will be awarded to
township residents graduating high school this year who will be entering a health related uh field so if you are one of those i encourage you to visit our website and enter for your chance to
win one of the scholarships um and then last but not least i'm happy that the budget process is um underway that we are we're done i think we made some reasonable reasonable cuts as a council
so um i'm glad to see that it is past us so thank you so much thank you m mr sears thank you council president uh our first spring uh cleanup will be um along the brook the cleanup will be april the
19th at 100 pm we'll be meeting at the bridge off of woodfield road i applied for bergen county for a mini grant uh to help offset the cost and i received the grant so it's about $300 but hey it's
$300 we had more than yesterday yeah uh so uh we got that grant i'll be putting in for another one later on in the year april the 26 at 1 pm the green team will be handing out flower seeds and the re that's usually our arbor day um uh
project but the state has stopped sending us seedlings so we're teaming up with the green team in pramis and echo garden group and we're going to be spreading u native plants throughout the
communities and we want to start the planting of returning of the monarch butterflies so um i am hooking up with pamis echo garden and there's 20 other towns involved with this dan scaderi and
myself both have completed the ruckers university forestry core training it was an 8-week course and our certification will be brought up to date we are getting vendors for health tank we would like to have some more
vendors uh you could fill out the application online or reach out to myself or councilman uh woman uh we right now have about seven i believe uh the u monontlair state uh grant for carbon
monoxide and canopy testing uh will be uh beginning in july we'll be setting that up and we'll be going through um the project that uh we were awarded to do that again i'm receiving complaints about double parking in the fire zone at
the shopping center and now there's more commercial vehicles in the shopping uh parking in the fire zone i would ask the mayor and the administrator to have the police department increase the patrol down there uh vietnam veterans welcome home
day on the 29th uh it was such a great success um not only did we have our guitars for veterans played there but it was wellreceived and i thank everybody that lended a hand uh in
making that a wonderful day for our veterans um we planted 15 sugar maples throughout several parks last week and u you will notice that they have sticks and tags on them please avoid them and i
will echo mrs valz's comments about the night's dinner the three uh um recipients really uh did a lot to this town and i really thank them for all they contribute thank you council president thank you mr mr casio again my
predecessors have pretty much summed up everything we've done but uh i'll add a couple things to it i've been able to attend at the new jersey department of homeland security uh school safety officer training and it's nice to see that our local schools are also taking
advantage of that training to keep our children safe within the schools i know um uh ihj had their safety uh officer down there and westwood i believe i saw them as well also in addition to that you know that in the near future we're
having the um world cup hosting over at uh east rutherford at giant stadium or metife or jet stadium depending on the weekend who's got it right um but i've also received training um with human trafficking which obviously is a big uh problem uh it's bigger than we realize
here in bergen county and it's going to get worse with the um world cup coming so um please be aware of that and i'm going to have some more information i'm going to try and put up on the website so our citizens are aware of the issue um again i want to thank uh the whole
council the mayor and the administrator with the um uh budget uh obviously budgets are never easy there's things you have to make some tough and difficult choices but i do thank everyone's cooperation and that concludes my report thank you mr c mr alman yeah thank you
uh council president um i wanted to ask if uh we could have a regular update on the status of the revaluation uh i don't know if that's uh something that can be part of uh mr
carlos reports or mailed to us but you know just um how they look in terms of their schedule um and uh anything that's coming up in terms of uh you know statistically that's uh
relevant in terms of people not answering or uh you know where outreach may be required so i was wondering if that could uh be uh part of our discussion uh the second thing is um
during the budget process uh i had raised uh and not an issue but uh a request about the outsourcing of dispatching and uh you know was nothing
to vote on at the time uh there was no uh it's fully funded for this year but i guess my question is what is the process to move that forward do you need a
formal vote of the council uh is there uh any discussions between the administration and the uh chief uh you know just uh what is the status and is this something that needs to be more
formalized from a council perspective uh uh to the administration uh and the police um the next item is uh in reviewing the budget
uh the maintenance the building maintenance for the new emergency service building um it's uh $22,000 uh in required i guess testing and
maintenance uh and that doesn't uh i believe there's uh in addition to that there's uh some discretionary funds for uh items that uh come up uh and i guess as we look at the dpw building uh can we
keep that in mind um i don't know if 22,000 is a lot or not but uh what are we expecting the run rate to be for maintenance uh you know the load testing i think came as a surprise uh and the
expense of that and there were a few others uh that were listed so you know we have a handle on it just uh is that something we can uh either eliminate or control as we look at the dpw and if we
can't what that might be um so uh keep that to keep that in mind uh as we uh move forward with that and the last item i have is uh i'd like to
ask um miss bailey uh if uh she could review the uh video of our last meeting uh ms uh excuse me councilwoman vez uh
indicated that uh we were engaging in an unethical practice uh when we were talking about the uh salary uh ordinance and
the percent of uh increase for 2025 five and there was uh i guess a lively discussion about it and at one point ms uh indicated that uh what we were doing
uh was unethical and i guess my question is uh i'd like to know if you know participating in uh the discussion if making a motion seconding a motion for something that is part of the budget
process you know where the uh what's unethical about that and if i am doing something wrong if you could please correct me because uh certainly you know i like to hold myself at uh a fairly high
standard so if you uh if you like i could highlight the portion of the meeting if that helps so you don't have to bother yourself with uh two hours of uh discussion and that would be my report
thank you mr alman uh very quickly mr sears thank you for putting together the vietnam uh welcome home celebration these are uh veterans that were mistreated when they returned home um and they deserve the recognition that you're affording them at this time and
i'm very proud to sit on the stage with you and i'm sorry i could not attend because i was at a baseball game but i wish i could thank you council president the knights of columbus uh testimonial dinner was a very well attended event um i want to thank the knights for and the
testimonial committee for honoring mr stickle mr brunelli and mr venagri they're all welldeserved uh testimonial dinner recipients they've done a lot for this town in the past and continue to do a lot for this town in the past in the in the present excuse me um also the
washington township baseball and softball opening day is april 26th i hope to see everybody on the day there i know i owe mr d carlo a sausage and pepper sandwich i promised him last year but he couldn't make it last year so he's your source and pepper sandwich is still waiting mr dall so i hope to feed
it to you this year fresh um so it's on april 26th at 10:00 a.m um also i'd like to thank the dpw and the mayor and council for supporting the uh the field effort to re uh i guess
revitalize all our fields it's still not a it's still not a uh a turf field at memorial like we want but it's a it's a big improvement in the township notices um so i'd like to thank the dbw and the township council and the mayor for everything in and the administration for
everything they've done to bring them up to better standards at this time um i think that's all i have at this time thank you uh approval of minutes budget meeting march 12th 2024 do i have a motion some move
second roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes councilwoman yes council president yes budget meeting march 20th 2024 do i have a motion some move second just very quickly i just
want to thank the uh everybody up in this deis i think getting the budget done in five meetings is a uh great outcome um it's you know we condensed it i think we we got a lot done in five 2-hour meetings i know in the past it's
gone on for you know days on end 4-hour meetings and so forth so i just want to thank everybody for their uh continued patience i think um i think it really reflects the effort that administrator
darlo and the finance team have put forth uh the ledgers this year yes were much much clearer uh i didn't go back much to uh mr carlo's uh you didn't have
we didn't have a lot of questions so thank you everyone i appreciate that thank you roll call council gasio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes counciloman bz yes council president senna yes general public comment motion to open open the public comment period
of the meeting so move second all in favor i would anybody like to come up and address the council at this time good evening mrs stickle hi i'm marielen stickle from washington township uh yes i'm the crazy airplane lady it's coming
up you're not because the crazy airplane noise is real um so i'm part of a grassroots um uh uh committee that is called tans to the second power it's a taxpayers for
aircraft noise solutions and safety um it's a group that educates ourselves on how teter airport um affects the safety of our environment health wellness and community um right now tans is meeting with a lot of different
um uh we're a lot of different um how can i put this um a lot of different people that we think can really help us um and i'm hoping that you can also uh open your minds up to helping us too and and think about different ways um that we can try to
figure out how to um make things better for ourselves i think you know i know this is a horrible thought but i think we are one plane crash away from really waking up about this all um and um the
next meeting uh that i wanted to just make you aware of at tito airport is now back um in person they are no longer on zoom so the next meeting is next week it's wednesday april 6th 16th excuse me
at 6 pm it's at uh 90 munaki avenue in titober and it's not at the airport but it's at the airport administration building the tank members go there they're the they're the noise abatement committee and um we unfortunately in
pasc valley don't have a seat at that table so they hold their meeting um the faa is there and a lot of other important people but we do get to go down there and speak on the p during the public sess session so that's what i'll
be doing and if anybody wants to join me i i welcome you to come i'll be there with audrey herert the other woman that um i work with on this from uh parkridge um what i just wanted to ask was that i know tom you were talking about um the
pscg monontlair state and um so i was wondering if you can just ask them as they do the canopy testing can they include the air quality um and talk a little bit about that private jet emissions i mean i'm just kind of
throwing it out there i don't know if that's really their agenda all you all we could do is yeah all you could do is really ask so um that's really it uh if anybody wants to join tans uh we do have an email address and um i'm hoping maybe we
can get some of that like parkridge has everything on their website about tans to the second power and i was hoping that maybe that could be put on the green team website well can we put it on the township website mr yeah i see one info or if you want to just do a
link to park bridge from the website but you know talk to me about it and we'll make it happen okay and thanks again for listening to me i know um you know this could be annoying but i think it's important and um i have a question
the the lower bergen county towns are benefiting from being in such close proximity i know they've gotten millions of dollars of school grants to put air conditioning in the school so they don't have to have their windows open and it seems like because
they have i mean depending on which side of the of the airport you live on you have less airplanes or more airplanes but we have all of them it seems like yeah we have whether they're coming from both directions down in southern burton county we have all of them up in bergen county so i think you know can we ask them like are we eligible for any of those grants for our schools and our
children and our parks because they spent you know millions upon millions of dollars on the schools surrounding the airport you know for air conditioning new windows new roofs everything for those schools i i mean i know they're going to tell us we're too far away and there the planes are too high probably
but we are impacted by this every day i mean last saturday the helicopters that flew by it was and it was cloudy and and miserable that night and you know like like you said we're one accident away which they've had you know they had a jet crash and kill the pilots in carl
what three years ago yeah remember that so so i i i hate to say you know you might we are one plane it's scary to think we're such we're we're in the flight path we hear these planes every day every minute they're
flying over our houses and it's scary so so if i make out of it so two fridays ago i was cleaning up my garden tools and i started at 10:30 from 10:30 to 12 noon every 1 minute and 37 seconds a
plane flew over the township right over my house over your house and as they were coming down the helicopters were going right below them yes so that's that's an issue too um there was a resident that contacted me from our town that said that um i don't know if you
guys know it in the middle of the night the faa sends out like a prop plane and it goes back and it circles back and forth in the middle of the night i guess they're um analyzing whatever um what he told me was that about 500 ft i guess
like either above or below it a private jet had come in and this happened at like 1 to 2:00 in the morning and they were literally 500 feet away now i did shoot an email to uh my contact at uh teter airport and i also cc the faa lady
that also attends these um tank meetings and he said okay you know duly noted your complaint is duly noted but then the funny thing he said you really need to contact the faa and i was like she like she's on the email so i mean but they just i don't know who is there
something we can ask miss mapzy and mr au and mr about is not shapes doesn't do anything she has no interest in spoke we'll ask mr buuno since it's grants if you know if he can start to look in to that yeah because i know the southern bur county towns they've gotten millions
of dollars to fortify their schools with closing the windows so they don't have to hear it not letting the pollution in and all that so but i think can we can we make a request to can we have the council right over the flight a flight can we ask can we put together a resolution put
together a resolution asking mr shapesy mr off and mr azeri to um take this plane up um my counterpart in parkridge we are meeting with uh assembly men off tomorrow morning uh just the two of us and him um he told me that he is a pilot
so he has some interest in this he lives in closter um he could possibly put us in touch with the i don't think holly shapesi has any interest in this um uh we've contacted a lot of represent politicians so um so all
right can you repeat that the address was nine what was that room so um it's going to be held at the airport administration building at 90 munaki avenue in teterboro thank you on april 16th at 6 p.m thank you thank you um
yeah the more people we can get from the um for the public portion the better uh because right now nothing and it's the first time they're back uh just one question you mentioned that we're not represented at the table we
can voice our opinion in the public session or during the public comment but we don't sit at the table do you know why that is or how that committee was formed or you know is
there something that we can do to try and get in we we it's a vote that they the tanic members have to take and they won't vote us in mayor mayor is familiar with and uh we we asked if we could have one seat of
the pascal valley exactly but they they took a vote on it and it did not pass and uh yeah i i think that that holly and our assembly people even came spoke on our behalf saying you know hey let the pasc valley have a say and that
didn't even help influence the board that's my recollection are they is it a is it federal or is it state or is it i i don't remember offline sorry mrs can you remind us um what happened to
the plan when the planes used to go over route 17 so that's a a plan that's offered to the pilots and they don't they choose not to use it so it's up to pilot discretion greatly because all they have to say is safety and so they
can choose then whatever path they want and i imagine it's a longer route in comparison to it yeah it's probably shorter they don't they there's no enforcement mhm no they did a campaign they did like a coffee cup campaign they did a poster
campaign but they don't the pilots don't follow it it's like what you're used to you know you don't you know it's like you can't teach a dog a little trick because they're used to shooting over our houses and over hackinac hospital which you think hackinack hospital would have enough clout to say "don't fly these jets over the hospital." but they
still do so i think now they're flying over the new hospital yeah both of them yeah yes thank you mr stickle thank you and thanks scam for coming to uh support bob and vinnie and uh the other gentlemen um that was really nice of you guys and bob and and james stickle
attended the vietnam's welcome home and that was great they said it was great thank you all right thank you anybody else like to come up and address the council seeing no at this time motion to close the public comment period so move second all in favor i ordinance is
adoption second reading ordinance number 25-07 an ordinance under chapter 87 of the code of the township of washington setting forth the rate of clothing allowance of officers and firefighters of the fire department in said municipality for the year 2025 resolution number 25-204 authorizing
second reading and opening a public hearing for ordinance 257 do i have a motion so moved second roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears uh i must recuse myself from voting councilman yes council wz yes council
president yes would anybody like to come up and discuss this ordinance at this time just seeing no one motion to close the public hearing for ordinance number 25-07 so moved second roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears i
must recuse myself from voting councilman yes council bz yes council president desent yes motion to adopt ordinance number 257 at second reading by title second roll call councilman
casio yes councilman sears much recuse myself from voting councilman omen yes counciloman bz yes council president yes introduction first reading ordinance number 25-08 calendar year 2025 ordinance to exceed the municipal budget
appropriating limits and to establish a cap bank njsa4a 4-45.14 motion to introduce and pass ordinance number 258 at first reading by title so move second
roll call councilman cio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes councilwoman vz yes council president yes resolution number 25-205 authorizing publication of ordinance number 25-e and scheduling a public hearing do i have a
motion so move second roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes councilwoman bz yes council president senna yes ordinance number 259 an ordinance under chapter 87 of the code
of the township of washington setting forth the rate of compensation and manner of payment of employees for a year 2025 motion to introduce and pass ordinance number 259 at first reading by title so move second roll call can i oh
sure just um yes so you know uh 2025 is in the books um i would like to see if we could put two items uh for a future meeting to
discuss one is uh directors uh we had uh the situation last year uh with one of the directors uh a question about them uh i guess managing themselves or directing themselves okay uh i'd like to
revisit that uh and do it proactively earlier in the year so if there is a desire to uh you know address that as a council uh we can do it so we're not going into the
2026 year with that issue the second is a office hour requirement uh there are individuals who have uh who
are required to be in the office uh for a certain number of hours per week and i guess my question is or what i would like to discuss further is uh if that can be expanded uh to other
individuals or roles within the uh township so if we could put uh office hour requirement and directors for a future meeting uh if you'd like to submit that the office hour requirements
are an administrative function so i respectfully request the council respect that and leave it that way it's in our ordinance so i'm assuming we can that that it should come out of the ordinance if it's a salary ordinance
it's been in there for 10 years at least okay but ordinances are meant to change that's why this one changes every year so we'll put it up all right roll call for 259 at first reading by title
councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes council yes council president yes resolution number 25-206 authorizing publication of ordinance number 259 and scheduling a public hearing do i have a motion second
roll call councilman casio yes councilman seer yes councilman yes counciloman bz yes tell the president the seventh yes budget resolution resolution number 25-207 introduction of the 2025 township
municipal budget i'll make the motion second roll call can i sure so um you know the we did the budget uh i think in
the last uh week we've seen you know uh softening of the economy uh we've you know the past few weeks we've lost funding for
uh grants that we had hoped to receive from the federal government and i was i would like to uh put forth uh some changes to some of the uh items that
were approved uh to see if we can have a further reduction in uh the uh budget for 2025 so you want to make a motion to reopen the budget mr
yes do that i can look i can look at it if a few minutes we take a fivem minute recess so miss bailey can see if we're we can do that we take a fiveminut recess everyone sure uh check that we can open it we can open
it all right so anybody want to second it i'll second all in favor or do we have to vote on it do one one at a time roll call we got to do roll call give me two seconds we open
budget discussion and councilman casio second okay councilman casio yes councilman sears no councilman omen yes counciloman bz no
council president yes uh so i'd like to make a motion uh on page 17 the employee holiday party to reduce it by $7,500 page eight hold on hold on i'm sorry do you need the account number
oh you're in the book you're in the book i got it i don't have i don't have i have so wait you want so page 17 account 50120 406 230
nobody has a book right do you have a you have a sheet number no it's not on the sheet he's going by the book yeah he's going by the book i know he's going by the book but is there a number that corresponds to this document uh some some page and some line
i don't think so i wasn't prepared to i wasn't i did not bring my book cuz i didn't know we were no there's no line item in here that corresponds no uh maybe it's not a complaint yes page sheet 14 sheet 14 14
okay uh public affairs yes public affairs you see $10,000 there 20-101 2
that's a full line item 39697 yes i think that's okay so to reduce that by so you want to make a motion to reduce that by how much mr alman 7500
so that brings us down to 2500 but the only number we have in front of us is 39 correct 39697 right the line item we're referring to is it's 10,000 of what was approved correct
that was the ask yeah um the recommended as the recommended and it was approved you want to reduce it to 2500 okay and you want to go to 2500 so that's $7,250 right
uh it would be the same line in your municipal data sheet uh with the calendar to eliminate it uh reduce it by $2,000 that's budget line 5-01-20-46-510
okay you have a sheet number on that same line 211012 oh 21 20 to zero you said right yes so no
calendar and the holiday party would become $2,500 correct can you tell me what the original ask for the calendar 2,000 was 2,000 was 2,000 so it becomes zero i mean we weren't instructed to bring our books
it's just these are just numbers being thrown at us you know off of one main number it's difficult to see if there's no trail this was this was not clearly i wasn't the only one that
didn't bring a book no we should have been i don't know emailed or something well i have my book also mr le so that helps i mean it is something i understand but there's four out of five of us that were not prepared
so i don't think it's how many others do you have in to make these decisions like this two others sure what are the next ones uh on page 36 of the budget book
line 501 2565 560 that's the chief's dinner and inspection dinner mhm inspection and cheap spinner
it is 6,500 6,500 uh i am asking that it be the motion would be to reduce it by 4,000 to 2500 okay and the last is on page 23 okay
motion is to uh for line 501 22 1 95185 uh special projects uh the line is for 5,000
uh i would like to uh reduce it to zero this is special projects yes what is special projects that was the money that they were going to use to get rid of the million dollars in escrow correct mr d carlo uh yes i mean just just i'm sum
i'm summarizing very quickly escrow open permits and open invoices so uh wait can you explain that line uh mr d carlo i'm not sure i'm not yeah i asked for $5,000 to uh conduct a project to um address the
$276,000 in escrow that was from us closing out open purchase orders going back to 1999 and how it relates to open building department projects and so there's there's open projects yeah there's open projects that
they weren't they weren't completed or they weren't inspected right so you need money in order to investigate what's open is that what it's it's more to for hours to put in hours of work to investigate and um finalize the open
escrow accounts and how and what to do so if you know when we do one refund it requires a resolution a purchase order a bill list we have 17 pages of those pos we closed totaling down to 276,000 and we need the time to do it it
would also be able to address um open invoices with our engineers and then also address any open building departments that may correspond with those open road permits sros the project
sros it's it's quite a task okay and um not ask what department is doing that and kind of ask who so i have several people um in mind that can accomplish that it could be you want their names or
their positions uh position would be fine i guess okay so the tax collector deputy treasurer um is the one that creates the escros and deals with the escros um that's probably the primary individual because it needs access to
admins and it needs a basis of knowledge um that's the individual that deals with the escrow refunds now as well um the planning and zoning assistant um also deals with a component of escrow
managing the escrow creating escrow accounts and and uh reconciling them with purchase orders also has a knowledge of the building department and how things go all right um i guess my
next question is so we go and close close these out we're going to receive either money to close it out right because that's what we're looking for to clear the escros yeah i mean i don't know that we can necessarily
convert the escrow money to township money but it's part of kind of i'll call like our investigatory period of what we're going to do and how we're going to address it but it could but it could be it could end up being a a needed
cco of a house that was never closed out it could be i can just tell you that like out of those 17 pages there's got to be ccos that were never issued because they didn't close out their permits so we would get some fees back well what i could what i can definitely tell you is they were all open pos for
azelina right okay we cross referenced it from the open ar report and they did not it didn't coingle so i can tell you that there was no outstanding aelina bills in those open pos so that just put 26 276,000 of encumbered money just back
into balance of those escros so i don't know if some of those escros may have been zero and now say it has 212 in it or it had 200 in it and now it has an additional 21212 in it you know some of these people could have moved they could have never you know um gotten a co for
their for their property so that's why you know it's kind of a huge undertaking that i can't promise we'll ever have time and that's not you know me just looking to get what i want i mean it's you know it's going to be above and beyond the hours that people have on
their already tasks you know okay and and you know again i i'm hoping that the fees that will be generated out of the building department this year will more than cover the $5,000 especially with the fees we're
going to be getting from um uh franklin and gorga you know we're you know i don't i don't act like we have that money to spend yet but we're anticipating or we're hoping for more fees to be um taken in from the building
department more than cover that $5,000 and and you you anticipate you can get all this done in a year i'm hoping so you know what obviously well you did say you were going to give a superior out of cup we'll give well i'll give you kind of like what the problem is 17 pages is
now down how we're going to handle it uh before we and i don't think we i think we can do that without having to spend you know a lot of money i think the money to be spent is the hours of work that it's going to take you know to uh to conclude that okay so i guess
we'll we'll uh mr elman if you want to make a motion for each one of these and then we'll uh see if it gets seconded and then we'll vote on each one how's that is that the proper thing to do yes yeah can i ask just one question these these um uh
paper trails been outstanding for years right since 1999 okay so we're talking 20 26 years um here's my feeling on this particular line item since they've been outstanding for so long do you think the administration would be all right with
funding half of that and getting it done over a longer period of time i'm just i'm asking you know it seems like a lot to do well no of course i want to tell you no i want i want you want another $5,000 i get it you know any any way to start addressing this
problem is great so you know of course i'd love the 5,000 if you only give me 500 then i'll and then maybe next year but again i i'm okay with that you know just kind of spread it out a little bit um so you kind of see where i'm going i'd like to give you half get started
because i know we have stuff that's outstanding i know i've talked to people you know i never got a co for this stuff i put in and i can't say what to do because that would be not ethical of me to do but you know i know it's out there people ask me that i want to get it cleared up not only for the township but
for the resident too because when they go to sell their property it's either going to fall on them at closing or it's going to fall on the people that purchase the property you know later on if it doesn't get caught so um that that's where i stand so so miss bailey
we go on one one at a time with a vote and so mr alman do you want to start with your your mike can i just make a quick statement sure um you know obviously you all know i disagree with this uh for many reasons but i i'd like to maybe throw out a compromise um cuz
you know you change anything now it's going to go have to go back to lbb uh we're going to miss introduction dates um would the council agree these uh cuts the way they're defined if i added them up correctly come to 185 um how does the
council feel about again it takes a little trust for the administrator to uh keep the spending at what was requested and let this 185 go into surplus uh that way we don't have to reintroduce anything but you have our
word that we will not spend this 185 and those line items and you know 185 going into surplus is a small drop in the bucket when it comes to surplus but i think it saves a lot of work uh for lbb lbb again to do it yeah so i' i'd
like to throw that out as a compromise maybe yeah hopefully i i want to see you vote no on some of these but if you vote whatever you leave behind i would ask maybe if we can do that appreciate that
so mr roman you want to start sure michael mr go ahead mr president um i thought you were done no no i'm just adding on to to peter and i would like to address that i appreciate that and i would be i'd be okay with that okay you know as you know mr man is correct the
econ we don't know what's going on with the economy right now right it's up in the air and anything we could save our residents in taxes i always feel and you know my feeling is the the residents know how to spend their money best than anyone else um but i i would i would be
okay with that because i don't want to send this back i don't want to miss the date um it will take money to address this again um at this point so if i had the the mayors and the administration's word that they'll you know try and curtail it as much as possible i'm okay
with leaving it that way um at this point um the only thing i would kind of change again for this um this change that mr omen is uh requesting is that you know the with the escros do half this year and spread it out over next
year i think that would give you a good start i don't want to rush anything because i know when we rush 17 pages of documents something's going to get missed i don't want to miss anything for the township or the resident so i would request that we kind of like spread that out so but i'm okay and again steve the
one thing i would ask since you're agreeing to leave it in if we show you that maybe we're making good progress then we keep going all right of course you don't want to stop the pro yeah you don't want to stop the progress of course that's that's i'm okay again we have to spend our money as wisely as possible not overt tax or under tax our
residency but i'm okay with that i can agree to that later okay okay and getting around a little bit i would ask if the council uh if the economy picks up from when we do the budget you look at some of your decreases and maybe give those back in future years obviously
of course so the motion would be the line item and the amount requested with the understanding that if it passes uh we're not going to change the
underlying budget but it is going to be sort of uh withheld in an accounting process unless you want to make the motion that the the four deductions are made and held in surplus i think that's the easiest thing
to do that would save that would save the going back i thought i just said that no i thought you wanted to do one by one yeah so yeah so we just make one motion for these four items to be sur uh to be surplused as the mayor put it well yeah
at the end of the year they'll be unspent and then they'll go into surplus i'm i'm good with i'll i'll second that motion well is that what motion well i was i guess the instruction initially
was to do it individually yeah but before mr before the mayor put out his new thing i think that was why we did it separately but now that he said it we just do all four lines i mean i i i'd like you to vote individually because some of you may vote to only cut a certain amount yes we'll do but
whatever's left we'll work with that agreement let's go so we're voting individual per okay so the first one is to cut the holiday party right yes so again the the motion is uh for to reduce the holiday party line
by $7,500 so you're motioning so we need a second correct correct it should be for one second if we do that we we have to send this back don't we yes yeah that's what i'm saying i don't think we can i don't no no it's it's just an agreement that whatever you we'll hold back whatever
you don't vote on or you know whatever the final number is okay that's what we'll hold back but what if the what if the majority of council doesn't want to hold back i think that's where we're torn between yeah well councilman cass then we won't hold anything but then they're saying if
they vote individually we'll have to send the budget back like we're catch any change you do on this on this right now it's got to go back to it's got to go back to vincy no what i meant is leave the budget but this would again be maybe it's not an
official vote but a straw pole vote and then what let's say you cut this savings down to 10,000 i don't think you could do that that would be that doesn't sound like it would it would work at this point so for me you know the way i would vote at this point i would vote leave the budget as it is okay no reduction
and no disrespect to to mr olman okay um leave it and we have the administration's word that they're going to try and curtail that as much as possible whatever's cailed as much as possible will go back in the surplus for the next year the 18,500 that's that's how i see maybe i'm wrong
maybe my perception is incorrect but i don't want to send it back i can waste time it's going to cost money to redo this i don't want to spend more money than we're already spending you know you would have to pay large $5,000 to do it again so again that's you know then
you're really only saving what 13 which is a lot of money don't get me wrong but still i'd rather take that five and put it towards a surplus so but then my question then is let's say the employee holiday party so now the mayor's is not
going to spend the 7500 no well it's going to take it's going to get cut out of a control line this is setting me up for yes i i think we i think it so i'm just i understand the assignment and i we can do it yeah we can i understand what the mayor's
saying but i mean there's a couple items in here we've um i know we've put a down a deposit on seasons that's what i'm saying happy to reduce it because we that's what we voted but i think if if we if we have the marching order of we can only spend 2500 we'll probably lose
our deposit at seasons because we can't guarantee the minimum of whatever it is well i don't know we've already guaranteed the minimum based on signing the contract with the down payment no we might the down payment just
reserves the date but i think we've contracted and based on the temp budget we had every expectation all right let's uh okay let's vote on every line and see how the vote goes all right can we do that yes
sure cuz if it's a no then you have nothing to worry about correct if it's a yes then we have a problem and what do you need three one three absolutely yeah three so let me just ask about contracts right now since that came up so you already contracted the season for the
party correct yes okay where are we on the calendar um well this would be for next for next year's for next year so we start working so nothing has been spent on the calendar for next year correct no okay however just as a point of information we printed even more calendars with a
little bit of money that was left we did have that much demand for even the hard copy people came and picked them up just want you to know that before you decide mhm i appreciate that and then uh the other item was chief's dinner the chief's dinner was there anything
contracted about they they already asked for like half maybe a little little less than half so i think their plan is to do it every two years there's an actual but to keep the spending flat they were asking like for half this year and half next year okay and then we already
discussed the bill and then you uh all right so page 17 mr homeman your first motion is to reduce the holiday party from $7,500 to $2,500 correct from it from$10,000 oh i'm sorry
10,000 to 2500 to 2500 reduction to 7500 do we have a second i'll second it roll call hold on one second i'm sorry i just want to make sure i get this in right all right and there's going to be a second by councilman casio and the role was
councilman casio no councilman sears no councilman omen yes counciloman bz no council president no the second is for
the chief's dinner to reduce it from 6,500 by $4,000 to 2500 service that is the motion do i have a second okay and they already took half of that okay anybody want to second that motion
i'll second the motion coming to the chief dinner i'm sorry i was going from where i from 6,500 reduce it by 4,000 to 2500 correct mr roman that's correct we have to vote on the calendar stuff right
i'm sorry not because of me i'm sorry i was i was following sue's yes all right so councilman alman councilman casio seconded now you ready for a roll call yes i'm sorry take it councilman casio no councilman sears i must recuse myself
and tony from the calendar those chief senator chief senator calendar sorry councilman yes um where am i at council bz no and
council president no the next item is to reduce the calendar from $2,000 to zero so reduction to zero right mr alman that's your motion that is correct sir i have a second second
councilman casio yes councilman sears no councilman omen yes councilwoman bles no council president no
the last uh change would be for special projects from $5,000 to zero council president if i may not to influence the vote but if it's one of those ones that might be a yes if if you vote no i understand to keep it to 2500 that way
this one in line isn't sending us back to the drawing board right just just let me know what that guidance is and we'll do it so the motion is to move it from 5,000 to zero to zero that is the original
motion that's correct do i have a second i will second it roll call councilman cassia no councilman sears no
councilman yes councilwoman vz no council president the senate no we have your word right you have my word thank you very much so going back to the resolution number 25207 it was motioned
it was seconded we had mr mr alman's comments so we're into roll call all right so we're going back to the original with the voting on the budget we're voting on the budget 25-207 councilman casio uh this is for the whole budget the
whole budget the whole enchiladas the whole enchiladas councilman zars yes councilman omen yes council bz yes council president denn yes thank you thank you resolutions consent agenda the following items have been determined to
have unanimous consent to the council will be enacted in one motion should any item require independent consideration any council member may have such item removed from the consent agenda would anybody like to have anything at this time removed um just uh 20 208 for now
208 please any others ladies and gentlemen okay resolution number 25-193 authorized cancellation of general capital fund ordinances resolution number 25-209 authorized submission of fiscal year 2020 2026
congressionally directed spending request application in the category of subcommittee on the interior environment and related agencies for storm water infrastructure repairs mosqu mosqu brook pasc brook and rididgewood
road number 25-210 authorize refund the performance guarantee balance lot 3402 lot 181 19 and 20 in the amount of not to exceed $19,550 resolution number 25-211 authorized refund of road opening escrow
to violia various streets in the amount not to exceed $240 resolution number 25-212 authorized cancellation of grant receivables and appropriation reserves for youth leadership grants roll call no motion motion move second
roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman omen yes council yes council president yes resolution number 208 resolution number 25-208 authorize the mayor to execute bergen county trust project contract for
$84,227 for the project former recreation club layout design and preliminary work for athletic fields block 2301 and 2401 lot 101 464 richwood boulevard north do i have a motion so
discussion so my question is um peter and mark is is there um someone that you're going to hire for this particular project at this point or what's your vision once you get the money because i'm unsure so um
the with the grant award we introduced that number that 84277 is in revenue and it's also in the budget fund my concern was any expiration date that's associated with it not being able to use it until the remediation is but speaking
with mr buuno and bergen county um it's better to receive this and ask for extensions so we have no concern that it's going to expire before we can use it so to technically answer your question there's no plan and no one's hired right now to do that because we're
not we're not to that point but we're essentially building up our coffers with grants once we get to that point because we do have i think one or two others in our grant lines so so when we have that remediation we're ready to hit the ground are we prohibited even from the
demolition at this point does it remediation yeah it does yeah because it it's all going to take place together like all that remediation demolition may i ask is it um we had that um initial
uh great lawn yes diagram uh when i drive to wegman i drive past the galaxy gardens oh yes and uh lake it would it possible to have um
i don't know who did the great law was boswell uh yes boswell could can would it be just to overlay can you see if you can overlay what the design is from galaxy because you know there's a center sort
of lawn for lack of a better term in the galaxy i mean there's a bunch of there's parking but i'm still having trouble with figuring out how big that field is going to be and it's i think it's a good reference personally okay i don't know if they can be asked to do that okay is
that something you would want like sooner than later or just when we get to that point or before we get maybe a little more okay before the shovel's in the ground yeah okay i think i think you know the the concept
that was the original layout of the multiple use fields has to be reviewed because that's what we were promised and that's what we sold this town and councilman descent up on this day is when i changed my vote from no to yes so
i know there's restrictions now but i said there was restrictions before and i was told that those restrictions were overcome they could be overcome and i think before we go down this great lawn project we look we go back and look at what was presented in august 3 years ago
with all the fields and all the playing space for our children to play at with you know brand new recreational fields we have to look at that um that's a promise i hope for us as the rest of the day as we'll keep because i think we we owe it to our children and we owe it to
the residents thank you roll call councilman casio yes councilman sears yes councilman alman excuse me yes council veles yes council
president yes motion to adjourn to conference mike can i ask the mayor one question peter could you do me a favor could you sign an executive order to change the name of the brook to something else if
we can do it for the gulf of mexico that's now the gulf of america can we do it for our small tributary because more people have i don't know if you have the power to do that but that's like a council resolution
that's a council resolution i'll uh you know what we'll do we'll come up with a name we'll send it out to all the kids in the contest if you vote on it we'll change it because of washington i i can only imagine what dp will do if we try and change the name of that well
scott hun gives us the money we'll call it k i don't care something that you pronounce without a problem motion to adjourn the conference today second all in favor i next meeting of the township council will be on april 21st 2025 beginning at 7 p.m sign up for nixol
text 07676 to888777 key code twwp of bergen www.twpof washington us so as we move into the conference agenda oh no
first on our list is draft uh chapter 307 noise ordinance unless you say uh section 11 further comments miss bailey yes u council may recall that we first considered this ordinance probably in early earlier this year um and it is the
proposed ordinance would replace our current noise ordinance which is also section chapter 307 it's um it's a brief ordinance um vague in nature and um the replacement ordinance would comply with
the model d ordinance um the thing about the the model d ordinance which is really if you want to have a noise ordinance you are required to use this model ordinance get it approved by d and only change commas and periods and
section numbers but pretty much stick to this or impose more stringent standards but not less so that's that's currently what's required um in order to enforce and write summones on it uh technically under the statute and who would be the
enforcement agency of this ordinance well that's somebody who's properly trained uh and designated by the administration and properly trained um you can also do you can also choose to have um or uh buy into the the regional
health department i would imagine there's somebody in the county um who's already trained to do this and there would be a process under the administrative code to designate that regional uh officer to to do the job but there's also a um a noise control
investigator um that can be designated uh by the township to you know do less um how should i say um intrusive less significant uh ordinance uh right investigate and
write less significant um you know violations under the ordinance as laid out in this uh this model ordinance and this this proposed ordinance um things of the nature that you'll see in section 10 chapter
307-9 um these are some of the things that if you if the council wants to adopt this particular section which is optional and it and it you know lays out standards for hours of operation of power tools and landscaping equipment so
if we change the in section 8 when it says beginning at 7 a.m we cannot make that 8 a.m you can um it's less restrictive it's less restrictive yeah so so you would i would imagine that would not be approved by okay i want to put that can or cannot
make it more less restrictive it needs to be more restrictive more restrict not less well if i if i take an hour away it' be it'd be less restrictive be more restrictive could be more restrictive if i take an arrow away so it starts at 8 right instead of seven right start at
7:00 i want to make it more restrictive and start at 8 you're right you're right so my only my only comment on this is on page six mhm i'd like to see it 8:00 a.m to 10 p.m because i think 7:00 in the morning is too early and i think that's
where that gentleman with the you know this leaf blowers i i think 7:00 in the morning with a leaf blower is a little too early but but do we want it to go at 10 o'clock at night no that's i i just but you can't do that yeah you can you
make it less restrictive we can make it less so i'm okay i'm okay with an 8 to 8 well for weekend uh weekday every day every day 8 to 8 8 to 8 because week days the uh landscapers are out there
earlier i don't i don't have any by my house by 700 you're saying they're out there before 7 7 yeah well it's up to you my my only thing was 7:00 a.m was too early so i wanted to go 8 to 8 everybody's okay with it i can go 8 to 8
does that essentially rule out construction before 8 there's no construction on sundays so that probably yeah it would make construction 8 also like right
doesn't our current ordinance read though that on the weekends versus the weekday it's different your current ordinance is not really compliant that's not compliant it's got to be done anyway i'm okay i'm okay with what miss bailey has submitted to us with the only
change being in section 8 making the permissive time 8:00 a.m to 8:00 p.m not 7:00 a.m to 10 p.m i think i think 10 p.m is way too late to be out there cutting grass cutting grass or doing construction right and 7 a.m is too
early but that you know i'm just i i my motion would be to change that to 8 to 8 if somebody wants to throw something else out there um i'll this is just for this is for noise in general right correct so just hear me out and i agree some people like to go to bed early if
someone's having an an outdoor activity you know a graduation party yeah but this is not for that this is not for a party this is for this is for this is sound right sound noise right so i assume that it includes everything it
includes musical instruments loudspeakers radios television digital i have a lot of that anywhere here did you page four right page four maybe i'm missing it right or maybe i just page four at the top second um first full paragraph sound
production devices means any device whose primary function is the production of sound including any musical instrument loudspeaker radio television digital and i was i i yeah so well we could make an exception for that
correct we could just just for just for the weekend right maybe maybe friday and saturday night right you know do that i mean a lot of people aren't going to be working at nine o'clock at night as we said right either they're behind schedule they're nuts so bailey can we
enter that for strict um friday saturday so you want to be compliant with the d ordinance as it relates to weekend time weekend time i mean the early is fine right that's that you can make that number eight in the morning because no one's having a party date from one i
know of but i know they like to have you know they're ending at 8 sometime steve well i don't know between 8 8:00 p.m and 8 a.m i can tell you that that's going around right yeah it must be great no
one invites me um anyway and then to me the the biggest one is the um is the um well the really the the motor vehicles that's what really gets me on this whole thing right because you
have people with these um converted mufflers can burn them up i mean i call them noise right those those things are they're very loud they're annoying at all times of the day and especially late at night it upsets you know people wakes them up from sleep i know that the police would probably be the
um enforcement agency with that not according to this well no no well i don't know i mean that's i think that to me that's the biggest noise producer um especially if you live on beach yeah if you live on a
lot of streets you know if you're on streets you know it's it's a can we modify that to enter the police will be the i think they would be trained i don't know if they're trained and didn't the chief say when they were here for the budget something else that they
don't really deal with private property things that that's more code enforcement if it's on a public you get a noise violation the police have come and knocked on our door appropriate one yeah so like zoning violation okay the boat the idea is yeah
again it's the you talking about the to me the the biggest annoyance is those loud cars but maybe it's just no it's not no it's not just so section 11 talking about motor
vehicles it's going to be the nco and the nci and not the police [Applause] you see here it is this is the this is the best part you know in a where it says no person shall remove or render inoperative or caused to be removed or
render inoperative or less effective than the original equipment that's the the muffler that's the key right there original equipment you know or less effective less effective than the original equipment when those get modified like that can you control turning it on and
off or some of them you can yes you can i i don't know some of them you can okay so very expensive ones not so to me that's the biggest sort of complaint that i i hear from residents maybe no you're right we can we probably
in that per that the police are the uh enforcement of i i don't think that there i i don't see any prohibition of h for having the any police officer be an nci okay um it's really the training required to go to the next level on some
of these prohibited activities now the the motor vehicle section does not require an nco to write a summon for that so but can an nco an nco can but an nci can as well
and i don't i see any problem with having the police designated as ncis all of them but could a nonp police officer who's an nco or an nci can they write can they stop a vehicle on a public
street and oh i see to stop a vehicle i would say no well no i would turn to i don't think they can stop a vehicle they can't affect the motor vehicle stop no because of noise
you can't pull something no you can't pull but you can take you can take a license plate number and report it to the police you can report the violation you can swear out the facts necessary right exactly okay
the mayor stops people on the street i've seen them i'm stopped a lot on the street but council president was there um something about contractors during the week not starting till 8 yes um do we want to make an exception or consider
maybe if it's a township contractor like maybe one of our road crews or i think there was a provision in there mark that said um was it like an emergency emergency repairs under the exemption section
and i think that would probably fall under that dpw emergency the dpw starts at they start at 7 a.m 7 tell them to start at 8 now they'll be very happy if they could still end at 3:30 they not
work's got to get done do you think it it applies to that circumstance like rtpw siobhan or uh for that exemption let me just it's a government entity well the noise in general you know like say we're up we're picking up you know whatever debris leak and we're starting
at 7:00 a.m they're very quiet or i sleep heavy or gone by now well they're not they're not making well they're picking up leaves they're picking up leaves or something i mean those machines are loud it darn a snow emergency it's an emergency we'll see if
if we need to consider that well so we don't paint ourselves in the you know i think they're all emergency shutting down the streets for you know you're declaring it snow emergency that's snow leaves but leaves are not an emergency right they are they got picked up
i'm saying that they get picked up much more continuous than snow contract and they start probably early too 7 a.m well i guess if it doesn't violate really out there right like if they're conducting work but it's not i'm just concerned
about the 7:00 hour get the trucks running get the diesels hot in section b section 10 what page is that mike page nine section 10 too many pages power b or letter
b um power tools landscape when used for emergency work shall not be operated on a commercial facility community service facility industrial or public space unless such activities can meet the applicable limits of the tables one two and three
so i read that as the town is not commercial well public space i mean community service facilities and public spaces to me that's municipal owned property
library excluded when used from regular not be commercial facility community service facility public space among such activities tables one and two oh there you go power tool those home
maintenance tools should not go between 8:00 p.m and 8:00 a.m so you can't use them so that that section is only for the roads which i was changing right here in section 10 a you can't use anything on a residential property between uh between the hours of
8:00 p.m and 8:00 a.m that's overnight no 8:00 p.m and 8 a.m yes overnight that's overnight good so you're good can't start before 8 a.m as long as it doesn't prohibit artship activities i would so we can just leave it the way
you can just leave it the way it is because it tells you residential can't start before 8:00 a.m and you can't go after 8:00 p.m mhm with any power tools home maintenance tools landscaping or yard maintenance equipment okay so you're covered with that yeah we're covered with that can i take that out i'm okay with it just adding the police
as an enforcement tool right we do the 8:00 a.m to 8:00 p.m that's in there that's in there yeah i think that'll work yep that'll work any other comments for this for miss bailey before we put this to the next
meeting well that's 8 to8 but section c is construction and demolition and that's 6 to 7 so they could start at 7:00 a.m for construction no it says shall not be
performed between the hours of 6 p.m and 7 a.m right 71 to 8 but on weekends it can't go between it can't start before 9:00 a.m for construction and demolition activities
can we make that 8 instead instruction the one with starting construction on the week days as opposed to landscaping in a parable yeah just construction it would be it would be in line with the the same hours
right this way you don't have to you know if you hear any noise before 8:00 something's wrong say well is that a lawn mower is that someone with a power nailer what is it so if you keep it consistent doesn't matter what it is so you want to make that more
restrictive for i'd like that more restrictive that motion that's just a thought keep it as consistent as possible but does that screw us up for the uh dpw building no you're on that it's a
miscluded i just know a lot of contractors start at 7 i'm sure they do and that might you know i just pointed out well that might do a lot of things but if they complain then you know i wouldn't worry until someone
complains well somebody did complain that's why we have this ordinance no no complain that it's too restrictive and this is and this is for you know we're not here to start at 7 yeah cuz they're inside yeah this is you know framing and outdoor construction these are outdoor
construction not indoor construction um the one other question i have is what about generators is that covered somewhere or is this has this been reconciled that count the fire department generator
that one generator yes well the home the home ones um it's an exemption i think it's an exemption power
well you you know if you have a power ranch i don't think a lot of people are operating 24/7 with uh you know generator that's not true either bless me then you run you run your house not you do a test right no no but when the power is out it runs 247 oh yes
of course i'm just saying no i don't think anyone's going to complain that joe has a you know joe has a a generator going and we have no power it's an exemption under the regulation that uh it's not on here if you see section uh
um five subsection a it cites an administrative code section 729-1.5 i'll let you get to first so section 5 7291-5 shall continue to be exempted so sound production devices is required or
sanctioned under the americans with disability act fema or other government agencies is that the one we're reading no section a oh yeah except as provided in 307-9 and 30710 below the provisions of detroit should not apply to the exemptions listed in 729 what what are
the exemptions in there one of the exemptions that deals with the generators uh exempts out emergency electricity generators at an industrial commercial or community service facility in use during an electrical outage but what about well no it's not that's not
an exemption though um so i think it's fine just to wait to be honest with you i don't think there's there needs to be a change and it really needs to yeah it it needs to be
um measured if it to see with the permissible sound levels to see if it's even a problem yeah and i it's not easy to well you need a code enforcement official to see the emergency you know a lot of these things so
everybody okay with this uh chapter 307 revision yes so the way it is yes yes with this with the minor changes right with the times the the times and the police
you want to recap really quick ma um all right so you want to start at the beginning i only my only comment i had was the uh the police being involved on the motor vehicle right okay yeah cuz the times we have 8 to 8 for 8:00 a.m to 8:00 p.m we
said "what about the parties or graduations and whatnot?" you better have better got to be nice to your neighbors and invite them no no we're not changing to 9:00 i thought 10 i thought it is 10 we were going to leave it the way for you yeah so we're
not on a week fridays and saturdays i thought we were leaving it to 10 yes at least the rest of the week it's from 8:00 a.m to 8:00 p.m mr b can you just go over let's go over it so is that is that the the change in section
307-7 the suggested change is to keep the hours between 7:00 a.m and 10:00 p.m for the weekends only and then for sunday through thursday make those hours 8 to 8 adm
yeah how does that reconcile to the page four the two lines above section four weekday means weekend means right here weekday weekend can they be
mutually are they mutually exclus mutually exclusive i'm confused well the these are definitions so it would i guess i don't even need to specify monday through thursday i can simply say weekends
because it's defined right here weekend begins on friday friday 6 p.m and it ends on monday 7 a.m yeah 7 a.m again we can restrict that definition to say
weekend ends on sunday at 8:00 p.m if you if you'd like council president can i interrupt you mr corkin i just told him he could drop off but he didn't want to appear rude no that's fine thank you byebye
bye-bye yeah i think you're right on that sunday change the definition okay no but what if it monday's a holiday no you have a lot of monday holidays so they're fed so the one above it
says yeah so if it's a federal holiday it's not a weekday correct [Applause] so then it would be considered federal holiday doesn't have a definition yeah
um but that just probably likely means that there's sections that deal with weekend no this for weekends and federal holidays and this for weekdays so i would have to go through and make sure it comports with what you want to do i
don't think that's a definition issue okay but this would be sunday at 8:00 p.m well section 10 talks about weekdays and weekend okay right exactly section 10
c would you want to give me a general instruction and i can go through the entire ordinance to pick up what what the flavor of what the council would like to see here and come back and revise it i'll redline it too so you can
see because we're not we're probably not going to catch anything exactly right okay so the next thing we have is uh parking standing and stopping so it's an ordinance amending chapter 223 article 3
entitled parking standing and stopping and chapter 223 article 5 uh entitled emergency regulations of the ordinances of the township for washington so what are we doing here perfect this was this was easy just as i i ticked on this and
miss bailey changed it for us in section one section two and in section three all we were looking for was consistency we uh i obtained the input of chief calamary as to what he would like and that recommendation
is now consistent in all three sections of parking as it addresses the snow so we would like it to reflect um prohibits all street parking during any snow or icing event and for a period
of 48 hours thereafter or upon the declaration of an emergency by the police department for inclement weather or for any other reason so even if you have a first responder badge you still got to get off the street is what it's saying right mr
i believe so yes that that was in the uh the write up i'm okay with this i just have one question um the declaration of emergency is that limited to the police cuz i believe the mayor has the
authority to also and doesn't oem have the authority also yeah and the state too but just put that name has authority to do so any entity or individual has the authority to declare a state of
emergency it would pertain to that pertain to the above or below i mean i just don't want it yeah because right now it's only the police department which is not true right if the governors a state of emergency you're done right
what's that they would supersede yeah but right now it says only the police department could do it right so you have ob and the mayor and the state you know i'm going to miss each one we'll just use anyone who has the authority to do so instead of each one you know we're going
to miss one right yeah i just need so we make that one revision failed all right the next one uh chapter 580 zoning parking and storage of boats boats trailers commercial vehicles and recreational vehicles and residential districts yeah so council still has the
hard part of determining the gist of excuse me the zoning miss bailey and i just work on the definition of commercial vehicle we feel the way it is presented to council has this been presented to the planning board it's not going to go
back to them so planning board the the planning board sent no go ahead the planning board undertook the recommendation from the reexamination and created
a draft ordinance that comes up to the council at that point it doesn't go back down to the planning board it's up to the council to decide to act or amend or you know move move it forward or don't take
any action but the i think the planning board is finished there yeah i mean you know i'll say if you want to send it as a courtesy but i want to send courtesy but i'd like to just make sure that you know they they see what we've amended it to and they're okay with it so everybody okay with us
sending it having a copy sent to them just be cautious what's that be cautious i have one request yes and the request is to increase that vote length um and that's only because we already have residents that have boats that
exceed 18 ft you know no one there's been no complaints you know and to put uh require them to um you know do some things they they shouldn't do i i would request that's just change to 25 i i
agree okay and that would be part b as well cuz yeah anything that's it anything that's because there's no restriction on length for motor homes house trailers rvs you know and i understand why that is because they can
be very very large but i think you know an 18t boat is not a huge boat so you want to make all to 25 25 and that's a request but you can we have to vote on it i'll say that we have a a motion by
mr cassio and second by miss to change the length of a boat to be officially 25 ft not 18 ft this this isn't uh we're not voting on this are we we're just voting on making the amendment the wording the wording it's not being
no i just want i want to make sure everybody's okay well i i don't know if we're going to have enough votes to move it from 18 to 25 go ahead mr cuz then what happens to people that already have a boat that's what i said before fathered it in can you can you
grandfather no they have to move it according to the ordinance they have to move it right okay well maybe swim club why don't we just field everything goes to cherry field nothing goes to cherry field that's the
problem we're going to put it in our new brook and generate funds to help pay off the mosqu brook baby we'll build a boat boat all right anyway so roll
call 18 to 25 yes um i don't know where i'm at at this point council councilman sears yes councilman alman no councilwoman yes and council
president the senator no okay so that's the marching orders on that one the council president but council's fine with the commercial vehicle definition and then we um siobhan how would you explain the the enforcing paragraph we we designated the
zoning officer oh that i have a com i wanted the police department also to be able to michael well the the the police department this is the one where the police department was requesting to enforce on public property and have the zoning and or code enforcement officer
enforced on private property the way the paragraph is written is they will obviously support each other through documentation or response from a call so but i thought they had to be involved because they're the only ones that can run registrations and stuff in they they are involved so the way it would be
written is if the police get a phone call and the zoning's not available the police will respond they'll make a a cad report indicating their observations and then it would be turned over to the zoning officer to actually enforce them correct siobhan that's how we wrote it
okay all right well can we put the observations will be follow up with photos also so we have a they will if they respond they take photos of the situation what are they taking photos with
i think you know we could probably leave it up to the police on how they invest no i would like to have photos of the situation you want the word photos in the ordinance right part of the observations if they respond to a scene so
images each patrol car to have a camera in them you can't ask them to use their personal cell phones to do it they have laptops they have body cams yeah but the laptops are permanent and they have ipads they're not portable they can call for an ipad okay cuz they they came down when they damaged the bridge and they
walked around with ipads okay taking pictures body cam body cam too well they can't use the body cams no no no cuz you can only access that when it's required so that's what they told yeah they
have the police department's got to have a camera somebody's got they do they have the ipads okay all right the next i think that you got to leave it to the you're writing a summon you got to prove a violation beyond reasonable doubt and you got to
leave it to the police to do it you i don't think you can prescribe what the police should and shouldn't do within your ordinance i i i i would i would think then you're starting to get into well they don't have a picture so they can't prove the violation or yeah no i
don't want to do that it's problematic if you start dictating and i i think there's an instruction to the police in an informal discussion with them um maybe the prosecutor can get involved in maybe having a conversation okay um
that's my concern um set that no you're setting up um situation where you're not they know how to you're not going to be able to prove it if you start to prescribe how to investigate the established violation
library capital ordinance 20-11 mr the follow yes so uh capital ordinance 20-11 is a funded ordinance so section or paragraph e of the ordinance is written to say improvement of municipally owned
properties and facilities in by the township including the public library for by the remodeling of the in the entrance and the reconfiguration of the interior of the municipal building blah blah blah so the anti the anticipated um
usage of that paragraph was to do the ada um remodeling of the library since that ordinance was passed uh with david funo we received the cdbg grant to do those improvements the grant
didn't cover all of the expense for the renovations so we had to dip into this uh ordinance so this was set up before i was here but when i came here to f familiarize myself with the accounts it was set up with $100,000 and i provided
the the ledger for of expenses for council to review right now there's a balance of $60,000 in there um the library director would uh has requested the usage of that
balance to replace the shingle portion of the roof on the library building so two years ago um we authorized capital to replace the flat portion of the roof it was like 200,000 or 220,000
we received some estimates um for the shingle portion of the roof i don't want to say unfortunately but unfortunately for us for construction jobs we must pay prevailing wages which increases the amount so again i don't like to throw numbers out
that aren't um you know burning to my mind or written down in front of me but the uh yes and somewhere in the mid60s for prevailing wage that's obviously over the bid threshold so we'll have to go out to bid if uh is this aluminum or
shingles shingles like the asphalt shingles wow so um we did get one contract or one co-op pricing and it was actually from the company that did the flat portion of the roof and they they gave us an estimate like
100,000 which in comparison to the just the quote we received from a just a roofer it was significantly higher so one i'm looking for the blessing of council to utilize that what's wrong with the shingles at present what's
they're just in need of repair they're old they've exceeded their life expectancy i guess and mr arari just put that in writing no mr arary had nothing to do with it the architect had nothing to do with well i mean shouldn't we have somebody look at him or we well we did we had a quote from a contractor that
indicated that it's in need of replacement wasn't he our town architect mr carrie he is but we didn't have an architect look at it we had a roofer look at it and they recommended its replacement so what we want to do is utilize that 60
towards the um but shouldn't we have mr our carry look at it and see if a metal cladding would be bet more more you know i don't i mean i don't know if he would be the appropriate he's the architect so yeah it's his real yeah but i mean i mean i'm
sure there would probably be a fee for doing so i mean i know but if we're going to spend you know $60 to $100,000 and replace shingles that shouldn't be shingled to begin with you know and he's going to tell us what to do with it i'd rather spend our money wisely than rather just throw another shingle up
there just to make it look pretty and have it fail prematurely because it's the wrong material that's fine can council provide the blessing to utilize that 60,000 towards whatever needs to be done or whatever the appropriate material is to be done and it would require going out to bid because we're
but who's going to pay the rest of it um well one we want to go out to bid or solicit another co-op which we have found one in the last the next the last week so there might we might not have to go out to bid depending on the co-op
pricing so we're trying to get an estimate of that it was based on the contractor um proposal that it's like in the mid60s range so speaking with miss riiffken what is confusing no it's so
freaking expensive oh yeah she she believes she would be able to supplement the the extra amount as long as it stays you know under the seven can we give mr if everybody's i'd rather see us like throw mr i carry like a $500 uh retainer
to say is shingles the correct thing to put back on this uh yeah you have my word that i'll we'll put the best material but if so can i get the blessing tonight to spend the money so i can have the bids prepared and i want to make sure that the bids are
being like i'd rather have mr our car give us a report first saying yes i'm okay with putting shingles back on here or no we should have a metal clad you know portion of this roof okay can i
ask it it specifically says uh remodeling of the entrance and reconfiguration of the interior right so if you remember it was a i can't remember the other example but when i checked with um mr fine fell that did in
this case he writes them as so you're not locked in so that first sentence improvement of municipally owned properties and facilities in and by the township common including the public library so you know again he tells me the way it's written he feels
comfortable in that usage if the council wish to reappropriate it with another ordinance again we're just going to spend money to rewrite it you know i don't mean it to sound you know disrespectful but spend the money to rewrite it so we're happy with the way
it reads as opposed to you know it being covered in its definition now but you know i'll i'll take whatever you know and my apologies because i know you said it this has been funded it's a funded
ordinance yeah we've already borrowed the money and how much did mr buno get us from the county pcg it was like $80 some thousand it was like so we already spent some of that you're saying oh no the project's complete no no the 80,000 we oh we spent all that and more that's why i had to
dip into this 100,000 that was originally appropriated for that ada renovation so i think the again just bear with me with the numbers i think the whole project maybe cost 117,000 and it was funded by say 89,000 of a
grant from mr the the difference came out of this so whatever is remaining between yeah does remain i i just like to make sure that we're putting the right material back that's fine yeah if mr arari could just give us his professional opinion on what he thinks
should go there okay cuz i i hate to put you know such a large investment on a you know and then all of a sudden find out yeah i wouldn't have done that okay maybe you'll say "yeah you're absolutely correct." but i just i'm
okay repurposing or using um the i feel the architect is the best person to make that determination yes not the not an engineer or a roofer no so it's architect's that's his that's
his uh purview it's his professional that's that's who does that roofing falls on architects not the roofer is there to to to build what's specified by the architect slash the owner but the architect's the one that's
going to specify what roofing material goes on the building all right if mr arari disagrees with me tell them then we're good i doubt they'll disagree with me thank you so is everybody okay with that
um next thing we have is mailbox damage snowplowing mr d carlo yeah so i think i think just you know inevitably we damaged you know we're going to damage a couple snow plowing throughout the year this past sneak season there was three
um there wasn't any ordinance to guide us so we really uh just used reasonleness to guide us so i think everybody that came knocking on their door we did send dpw out to do an investigation you know it was determined that it was most likely you know
happened because of snow plowing and i think all of the replacements cost under $100 one might have been a little bit more but i was really hoping that we could have an ordinance to guide us so it's not left up you know if someone comes in if it's 170 bucks we're going
to say "no you're only getting 150 towards it or 100 whatever number the council um deems appropriate." going through the three options i like number three to model after woodcliffe lake but you know you not a butt the the council wood cliff
lake reflects $150 but the council can pick whatever reimbursement amount it wishes i just like the way what cliff lakes read out of all three of them okay well can everybody review those three i know we just got it in friday's package
but we what did you like best about that one um i think it just gave us guidance on you know how to investigate it how we're going to conduct the um the reimbursement um let me just let me just
get to it it's got a lot of more it's got a lot more meat to it it's got more meat to it than the other ones you know it kind of tells how we're going to you know the claim procedure um you know it kind of puts
the some responsibility back on the resident you know what i mean it can't be like two inches away from the street you know and made of like you know straw so to speak you know i'm exaggerating say to explain that so what is um or what would we say is
our responsibility so you know i live on vanburg the cloud come down with some speed and you know to to clear so they may not physically hit it with a cloud
but through the actions you know the snow and the slush you know comes in and i mean are we looking to do that as well or does it have to be like clipped by the yeah most i think all three of them were because the power of the snow
being pushed into i don't think we actually struck it but again there's an example in there and it's like two paragraphs the first one for frank makes says guess what we're not you know we're not reimbursing or no i don't know if it was frank frank one of them frank said
you know too bad thought you know i'm just again exaggerating but um we don't get many year but this is just to have something that we can point to that there is an ordinance yeah we don't see it as being a big problem but
we'd like to have an ordinance in place so can everyone review those three ordinances and come back with their questions and comments or which one we'd like to adopt for the next meeting everybody okay with that comments to the next meeting comments for the next meeting and then we'll see how well
we'll see what happens all right motion to adjurnn no you got one more one more the light on oh municipal housing leazison salary ordinance mhl what do you got we were done that was
just there in case um any council member had a question beyond my explanation in the email i well that's who we hired right that's the company we hired based on the recommendation no well we um no not exactly the municipal housing liaison is um an employee a current
employee that was appointed by council in late december so the salary would not be paid through um taxation if it can be paid through the reserve for co developers it's an appropriate expense
um to pay out of that it's based on you know really guesswork um but speaking with cgph and our master planner you know we're gauging somewhere between you know around 60 to 70 hours a month um there was a lot of back and not back
and forth but a lot of communication through my municipal manager's email chain uh probably like the latter part of 24 as to how people or towns were going to compensate some didn't compensate at all some compensated up to $10,000 and that's all we're doing well
not $10,000 $2,500 and it was just i just a simple math equation based on how many hours we're anticipating throughout the year in comparison to what um are you track is that being tracked because she's going to is that person going to have to submit a voucher for that extra time no
only because you know i figured it was better to do a salary and then we're we're covered meaning if it's more hours we're not going to spend more than 2500 hours this way we have what happens if it's
zero hours well it's not going to be zero hours some requirements of the job i provided what's in our current ordinance in our code book all the responsibilities of municipal housing leaison and again anticipating what we think is going to be spent throughout
the year um that's how we came up with that yeah that's how we came up with that number again it's it's very data driven now to the requirements a lot of data entry and you know again i don't remember all the the job
responsibilities that were in ordinance but we gave it's like we're anticipating like 5 to six hours a month but again it's going to be in addition to the 35 hour work week but not exceed 40 hours so we're not expecting this to be you
know almost like a double dip to wait it's be done outside the 35 hours okay any other discussion ladies and gentlemen can i just can i ask you a quick question just can i just go backwards a little bit here i apologize so these ordinances you're going to talk
about some more comments or any more comments for the next meeting that will determine if they'll be introduced on the floor or if we're going to go the following meeting correct and the motions that councilman omen had proposed for reduction all fifth all i just want to make sure i
saw all right vote it down i do have a question um in the pack there was a report from code enforcement is it possible to
get what the issue is yeah instead of it just saying property maintenance or curt courtesy notice uh final notice i mean it's good to know but what regarding why i'll i'll see if we can if you've
noticed over the last 3 months the format has changed from its original origin and i think it it was a programming thing so everything he selects is property maintenance it's not like overgrown grass or you know failure to bring in their garbage cans or you
know you know dilapitated vehicle and driveway everything has a category property maintenance so i'll see if there's some way we can add a note to specific so it identifies the specific what's the issue yeah yeah thank you
anything else ladies and gentlemen motion to adjurnn so move second all in favor i good evening everyone thank you [Music]