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everyone welcome to the regularly scheduled public meeting of March 3rd 2025 of the township of Washington Township Council adequate notice of the meeting was given to in accordance with the open public meetings act by the Township Clerk to at least two newspapers in December and this meeting has been posted on the township bulletin
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stand for a salute to the flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all roll call councilman Casio here
councilman Sears here councilman Olman Council valz here counc president to sen here let the record reflect also in attendance mayor Peter calamari Township ad administrator Mark D Carlo Township attorney Siobhan Bailey cmfo Mr corkran
is on zoom and Township Clerk Susan wowski payment of bills resolution number 25-18 authorized payment of bills February 13 20125 to February 26 2025 do I have a motion I'll move second any
discussion roll call councilman Casio yes councilman seers yes Council Bel yes council president to yes PSA for March 3rd 2025 the township of Washington has added the recycling
coach app to our website on the Department of Public Work page recycle coach is an address-based app that educates residents on how to recycle materials appropriately for their areas by downloading the recycle coach app you'll be able to obtain your curbside collection schedule sign up for alerts
and quickly learn how to properly dispose of different waste materials primary primary election date change please note the primary election will now be held Tuesday June 10th all voting takes place at Town Hall hours are 6:00
a. to 8:00 p.m. the VFW Post 6192 of District 2 in New Jersey is holding a day to honor commemoration ceremony on National Vietnam War veterans day Saturday March 29th 2025 from 10: a.m. to 12:00 p.m. at the Bethany Community
Center 605 pasak Road please visit our website for further details the 2025 animal license renewals are now due with a late fee of $25 the township of Washington DPW is currently seeking one to two part-time
seasonal workers for up to 29 hours a week of work a valid driver's license is required applicants must be 18 years or older please visit our website for further details the township of Washington will be hosting its third annual familyfriendly spring into
Wellness 5K run walk health fair on Saturday May 3rd registration is now open please visit the township website for more details the quanas club of the pasak valley meet on the second Wednesday of each month at 6:30 p.m. at the Westwood Community Center if anyone
would like more information please contact Paul Ralph guli at 516-5813 one9 or pasak Valley cois gmail.com our next special council meeting will be held on March 10th 2025
thank you everyone going down the agenda report of the administrator uh thank you council president good evening everyone a short report uh from last meeting there was just two follow-ups that councilman om man had questions on one was pertaining
to the property tax exemption for a veteran there was a resolution on the agenda he asked me to follow up and answer the question as to when uh that exemption ceases on a property I spoke with my tax collector uh are the property tax exemption continues until
either the property is sold or the veteran passes if a if a spouse survives them the exemption continues until the spouse passes upon a sale or transfer of ownership the tax assessor will make the necessary adjustment to the code the
record back to taxable you also had a question about Loretta LLC uh regarding Loretta LLC this is a national company just like core logic that pays property taxes on half of multiple Banks and mortgage lenders we receive bulk
payments electronically and overp payments must be refunded to them part of that resolution with the exemption was a refund to Letta LLC so Mr man just wanted some clarification on that Mr Olman also requested clarification of a section of the bond ordinance pertaining
to the uh borrowing for new DPW building construction specifically um the section reads the said purpose described section three of this Bond ordinance is not a current expense and is a property or Improvement which the township May
lawfully acquire or make as a general Improvement and no part of the cost thereof has been or shall be specifically assessed on property specifically bened thereby I sent the question to Mr binefeld our bond counsel and responded that um the wording in the
bond ordinance and highlighted from me from my email under the local Bond Law municipalities are not permitted to authorize debt for current expenses this is a statement that the purpose in the bond ordinance is not a current expense and thus is permitted by the local Bond
Law to be included in the bond ordinance by law Capital Improvements are either general or local in nature local improvements are those that are the subject of local benefit assessments this is a statement that the purpose in the bond ordinance is General in nature and thus is not the subject of a special
benefit assessment that includes the follow-ups uh for Council there's nothing to follow up from the uh general public comments however I did want to inform the council that Miss ba and I met last week to discuss the uh revisions to several of
those um ordinances that pertain to overnight parking commercial vehicle parking in the street and such uh Miss Bailey I believe will have um some proposed revisions for the council um based on our discussion for the next meeting
also last uh update for the council and the public is uh there was an expense incurred of $5,800 for the feasibility study we did for the potential shared service agreement for the ambulance with with Hillsdale and uh our grant writer
is applying I think it's called a leaps Grant to try and uh recoup that money that we got back so we're going to try and get that back for doing the Shar service and thank you council president that concludes my report Mr Mr just quick followup um would you be able to give this stat of the mine Court
litigation uh for the next council meeting yes the trees yes the trees and the assess fine of I think it was like $49,000 where we are with that yeah so I I don't know if you have do that well I can I can tell you that the $3,000 was
deemed um excessive those are my words just to paraphrase so it cannot exceed what the state's fine is and that is $2,000 so that's actually one of the ordinances that miss bayy when I were um spoke about last week if you remember Council read the first reading of the
trees well when I was reading it for because of meline court I identified that there's a another conflict in there pertaining to a value uh because Council wanted voted that night to go up to 400 so we need to change the the uh
ordinance for that reflection and then we also need to change the ordinance um to reflect down from $3,000 down to $2,000 so I the next part I don't know if uh actually came to terms in Municipal
Court I do understand that some type of I'll call it a plea agreement is being made um but I'm not sure if that happened yet so that I will have ready for the Council next appreciate it thank you report of the mayor thank you Mike uh good evening
everyone Recreation news the 2024 2025 basketball program is entering the playoffs part of its season I want to wish all the teams good luck the 2025 lacrosse program season will be starting soon if you are interested in volunteering to coach for this or any
other programs please contact Recreation coordinator Dan scary a background check for all volunteers 18 years of age and older is required the 2025 fund with cartooning program spring season is starting
soon the 2025 men's over 33 softball program registration opened on Friday February 14th you must be 33 years old before May 1st 2025 to participate in the program please log into Community
pass to register for this and our other programs registration for that program ends on Thursday April 3rd 2025 the 2025 summer camp program registration will be opening in April please visit the township of Washington
website under the recreation page for updates on registration dates and program details Police Department news the department participated in the night to shine event at Bethany Community Center and the Shane maku Shane the brave
walkout ceremony diagnosed with SRB cell leukemia on December 2nd 2022 Shane has endured grueling treatments including chemotherapy spinal taps and unexpected setbacks I encourage you to learn more
about Shane and the event and his fight as I did by reading an article that the pasak Press did it is on their website the press group.net and it's dated February 7th on there the members of the police department also did their
mandatory spring Firearms qualifications and training finally they conducted Scout Troop tours of their facility I just want to go off script for a moment and welcome a couple of the young Scout ladies here uh who are observing our meeting tonight so welcome to the two of
you fire department news for the month of February the fire department responded to fire alarm calls and odors of natural gas on the 15th there was a reported oven fire on arrival it was determined to have been a child's plastic toy that was in the oven that
caught fire and self-extinguished prior to the Department's arrival on the scene on Friday the 21st the department responded to the Garden State Parkway for a vehicle roll over with a possible fuel leak the department stood stood by while the tow truck removed the vehicle
and reported no fluid leaked into the Waterway and no injuries were reported earlier this month at one of our Council meetings it was my pleasure to swear in John lari in as a firefighter DPW news they started
inspections of both sanitary and catch basins in zone one they responded to six salting Endor snow events multiple damaged traffic signs around town were replaced 1,400 pounds of asphalt patch have been used to fill potholes spring
cleanup began at the parks and fields and the members of the department continue their safety training public affairs during February the department celebrated we love our residents weekend on Friday February 14th residents were treated to Hot Chocolate from Conrads and a valentine
craft was available for the kids on Saturday February 15th we hosted a family movie day at the library with snacks finally on Sunday February 16th residents were treated to a bagel and coffee at David's Bagel the department
thanks all the residents who took part in the events zoning office there were a total of 18 zoning applications reviewed for the month of February Library Valentine's Day programs meditation workshops painting nights family dance parties and so much
more February flew by amid a variety of programs for all ages March dates to note March 6th tween night book Bingo March 8th Saturday family Story Time March 15th the Irish Step dancers the
friends of the library are still selling raffle tickets for the St Patrick's Day gift basket basket is filled with treats and Home Decor Municipal Alliance plans are arranged for the annual anti-bullying program footprints for life for third
graders they are also working on the outline and presenters for Safety Town 2025 Municipal Court 214 total traffic tickets were issued during the month of January of which 180 were issued by the
township of Washington police department and 34 were issued by the state police the court collected $477 360 in Revenue to the township DPW facility I want to thank the members of the council who voted in
favor of this important project to get the members of the department the facility they need and deserve to properly efficiently and safely perform their tasks in the services they provide to the town this morning the administrator architect engineers and I had a very productive meeting to move
the project along that concludes my report thank you Mike thank you Mr Mayor report of the council Miss valz yes thank you um so going off the February we love our residents um I was able to attend um as a a res resident
myself with my kids and it was great to chat with people um I'm really excited that this came back to our town now with an official public affairs director a great great job to Sasha Lopez on organizing this community event for all
of us um the DPW I'm happy that the project was finally approved at the last meeting and I want to thank the council members who made this possible uh and continue to move the town forward in resp responsible manner uh the 5K and
healthare registration is fully open I encourage residents to take advantage of the early bird pricing all the information is available on the website also this is the last week to register for the beginner program so if you're not sure if you can complete a 5k we do
we are working with the denovo harriers to get this beginner program off the ground there's a nice number of people registered already um the health fair vendor letter is on the website sponsorship is also
available uh for any businesses or organizations interested in sponsoring the event and just a reminder that a portion of the proceeds will be going to our high school seniors graduating this year and entering a health related field
so it goes to a great cause and that is my report thank you Mr W Mr Sears thank you council president I put in for two grants uh the first grant was with Montclair State to study air quality and
uh canopy uh we was accepted for that Grant it's a $50,000 grant that Montclair State will pay for the students their housing and their transportation so I hope to start that uh program within the next couple of
months great time uh today I went substainable new jur uh partnership with uh supporting uh private home efficiencies for gas and electric that was a $55,000
Grant and we uh got that Grant also so that will be um starting in the Summer where they will we will work together with the green team to come up with types of Home efficiencies and the third thing I want
to cover is March 29th with is the uh uh final um recognition of the end of the Vietnam War and to welcome home the Vietnam veterans um right now uh if you P look on the screen I have a limit number of
those signs uh loan signs I do have a permit for them also uh uh you want to help support or be part of the March 29th day please reach out to me and I will uh get you one of those signs uh this will be held at Bethany
Community Center March the 29th from 10: until noon uh we have several speakers we have military vehicles um we also have our guars for veterans that will be
playing um I want to invite all veterans not just Vietnam veterans we will have presentations of awards and certificates uh from um Congressman goth Heimer um
the county Executives so uh please come we will also have coffee and cake after that thank you council president thank you Mr s if non veterans are allowed to display that time I would be honored to take a sign from you and put it on my front lawn I will where do you get I
have them okay thank you so let us you're welcome as well please yeah I'll I'll make mine brief everything has been said I want to thank um Tom and Daisy for um agreeing or helping to cut down our budget because we did
make a a small deal there so we can have our DPW um I appreciate the cooperation and please go to the Viet Veterans uh ceremony I think it's very important that we at least honor all our veterans especially for me the Vietnam veterans
it means a lot to lot of me so I looked at it sign Tom I will'll have it to you tomorrow and I'm done thank you thank you I'll be I'll be very quick ladies it's on YouTube so you don't have to write that fast you can go on YouTube and not get in trouble just tell your parents you're
watching a council meeting see he's like oh you shouldn't have told him right but they're writing away vigorously over there so I'm like but thank you for thank you for uh trying to earn another badge it's great to see
that uh on on April 26th the Washington Township baseball and softball will be having its opening day uh it's going to we've been around since 1956 so next year it be a bigger celebration but we have a big celebration plann for this
year so uh April 26th at Clark Field uh we to March to the field by all the uh participants will start at 10 o'clock and everybody should have received their invite I know I made sure it went out twice 10 o' you said 10 o'clock is the
March so if you get there a little early it's on it's on the uh um that's all I have I appreciate everything that everybody's done up here for the DPW also and uh look forward to keep working on making our town better approval of minutes none general
public comment motion to open the public portion of the meeting do I have a motion second all in favor I I anybody like to come up at this time and discuss anything with the council seeing no one motion to close the public portion of the meeting some
second all in favor I thank you ordinances adoption second reading ordinance number 25-6 and ordinance amending chapter 212 of the ordinances of the township of Washington entitled fees resolution number 25-1 181 authorizing second
reading and opening of public hearing for ordinance 256 do I have a motion so move second any discussion anybody in the audience seeing no one roll call counc M cassum yes counc yes councilman Sears
yes Council bz yes motion to close the public hearing for ordinance 256 so move second roll call councilman cassum yes councilman sear yes counc bz yes council president at the sen
yes motion to adopt ordinance number 256 at second reading by title do I have a motion so move second roll call councilman Casio yes Council yes councilman Council woman bz yes council president the Senate yes introduction first reading none
resolutions consent agenda the following items have been determined to have the unanimous consent of the council and will be enacted in one motion should any item require independent consideration any council member may have such item removed from the consent agenda would anybody like any of the items removed at
this time uh 24188 please 24 4 188 with you any others ladies and gentlemen Okay resolution number 25182 authorize refund of remaining escrow balance and performance guarantee
block 3103 Lot 25 in the amount not to exceed $1,397 resolution number 25-1 183 authorized refund of escrow funds block 3115 lot one in the amount of not to exceed $7,000 $44.90 resolution number
25184 authorized refund the rest growth funds block 45 457 lot one in the amount not to exceed $335 resolution number 25185 authoriz refund of overpayment of taxes block 2503 lot 13 to core logic
quarter 1 2025 in the total amount not to exceed $331 resolution number 25186 authorized refund of overpayment of taxes block 4511 lot 9 to Kelly Title Group order 1
2025 and the amount not to exceed $3,587 resolution number 25187 approval of certification list Township of Washington volunteer Ambulance Corp members loat program year 2024 motion to approve the consent agenda resolutions as presented so move
second roll call counc M Casio yes yes counc bz yes council president Des yes resolution 24-1 oh 25 got it says 25 the resolution
says 25 all right resolution number 25-18 approval of certification list Township of Washington volunteer fire department members losap program year 2024 do I have a motion so move I'll second it roll call discussion at all
any discussion Mr GNA recuse you yeah I have to recuse my part state law I cannot vote on this fine that's why I figured you had it removed roll call C CIO yes cman Sears
recuse myself C bz yes CC president to s yes motion to adjourn the to conference agenda second all in favor I the next special meeting of the township Council will be on March 10th 2025 beginning at
7 p.m. sign up for nixel text 07676 to 888777 key code TWP Bergen wwwt WP of washington. us okay so on their current business and
conference agenda we need to make a decision uh for the December council meeting I know the mayor has to book the date for the employees dinner well it it is booked I had a book it to make sure they held it so what they say we that we want to move it
to it's Tuesday available the next day I was Council was not here she did not join us at that point that's is it Tuesday in December available you still not avable um next year well I I won't know but it's fine you can
move it to Tuesday everybody okay moving it to Tuesday you sure yes yeah on Tuesdays is just till the end till the spring okay the end of spring so December that's good as of right now so go ahead go ahead but thank
you okay ordinances and legislation none under financials we'll get into the 2025 budget discussion for the fire department if you gentlemen would like to come up here and sit here good evening welcome
[Applause] it starts on 34 oh thank you thank you thank you [Applause] Mr Dall you want to just give a brief explanation when you just hand it out or oh yes you want the department to is the
department doing that I can just tell you really what's obviously there's a capital request for vehicles do you have the inventory list of their vehicles uh and then attached would be the cloting allowance um ordinance from last year we have no we have to do that each year so
just for some discussion this evening so you have it that's all oh that's all okay that's it okay we're going to start on page 34 I ask Mr Carlo something sure go ahead um Mark are we going to keep hours
on the boat we keep hours you have mileage for the trucks are you going to keep hours on the boat is that hour hour usage yes we can okay thank you okay I guess we'll we'll go through the items
gentlemen and if we have any questions we'll uh we'll stop for discussion is that okay sound good all right okay so we are on page uh 34 directors and salaries we're going to
do later on so um first item we have is fire department office supplies 50125 265 210 do we know why we spent so much last year Mr we didn't that's where the money was transferred into the line that
actually was over encumbered was the ESV maintenance line so when the CFL made the transfer it was just selected to put that in into the first line okay if we want to see uh you know we'll just go to the audit Trail to see what was actually spent in there yeah I saw it was for maintenance stuff but I just didn't know
why I got put to office supplies so that's that's fine any discussion no I'm okay with it everybody okay with it yes all right uh fire department does meetings in conferences 50125
26525 1,000 requested 1,000 recommended any discussion we Ed exactly a th000 last year yes was anything taken out of another line to cover this
no okay that's the annual fee for the uh pass Valle group oh is that okay there's just one line sir on the uh audit Trail that's for the 2024 du ,000 everybody okay with
that uh next one is blank uh following we'll go to page 35 is uh fire department office furniture and Equipment three 50125 265 300 1500 requested 1500 recommended everybody okay with that can
you get by with 200 less we do still need to outfit one more bun room most of what was spent of that $1,300 last year was outfitting the one bunk room you have to still have out well all the bun that'll be complete
then all the bunk rooms right or L more to do correct that complete this year okay we good with it I'm fine with it this FL you okay yes fire department radio expense 50125
26536 360 9500 requested 9500 recommended any discussion do we have a quote on that equipment sorry do we have a quote on that equipment as of right now no but the idea is that it's a what if line
because the portable radios that we carry they run around $6 $18,000 so if one of them does break granted Insurance can cover that we still have to pay out at least $2,500 is excuse me deductible
so we were able to last year with I believe it was councilman man that gave us the extra $2,500 to fit us with new pagers okay we were able to keep the pricing minimal where we were able to return that
$2,500 and not need it okay so I'm okay with 9500 okay everybody okay with it yeah Mr Mayor if it's okay since Miss Bailey doesn't have anything left on the agenda is it okay she's excused um yeah have a good night Miss ba your
early night don't jinx her she's got to happy no we don't need nothing there's nothing for right you okay everybody okay with it I can't think we're going to enter into any legal area budget so definitely can
help enjoy enjoy the thank you uh Fire Department dispatch Services 50125 265 365 2500 requested 2500 recommended it's an increase in fees for the code system is that a contractual agreement
sry contractual like is that like quote we got or is that like a bill we get it's a it's a bill we get yeah okay everybody okay 2500 the B yeah it's two separate services in that line that the 2500 will
cover but the increase from last year of $2,200 is to cover an increased an increased cost in COD system Fire Department training 50125 26537 4500 requested 4500 recommended training and Swift water operations for
2025 only anticipating returning to a request of $2,000 did we not just do Swift training we did Swift water awareness training offered by the county that was free this is Swift water operations the county unfortunately does not have the uh capabilities of giving this class they
recommended us to two different companies either all hands or RPI and uh both said it's $375 per person to train them so we're right now we can outfit up to 10 guys we're looking to get those 10 guys trained and then also have some
money to do other training as well throughout the year okay everybody okay with it where would you do the training that's the fun part the uh the swi operations class will end up being at the Delaware Water Gap I was I wonder where it would be like you need some moving water I'm like it's not
happening the state defines the moving water though of any body of water you know basically so up foot of water is to water really yes wow everybody okay with this line yeah
fire department uniforms and safety equipment 501 25265 400 12,000 requested 12,000 recommended any discussion um are these for new uniforms or
replacement uniform of safety is it's also it's it's mostly safety equipment that comes out of that that budget um but it's also Al our dress uniforms our dress uniforms current price is 925 I believe for each member that gets outfitted with a current dress uniform
um as of right now we have three that are coming up right there um but that that line item is you know basically like I said it's also used for safety equipment as well you know our you know extrication clubs uh uh safety vets our
water our safety water gear comes out of that um it's kind of a you know they uh they squeezed a lot we used to have a lot more line items and they squeezed them all until you know a bunch of a bunch of other ones so one is kind of a broad
spectrum why was it so low in 2023 I shouldn't say so low it was two two grand lower than what we spent you know where that was one second is that when we supplemented with the firefighters system Grant I believe
so and again things have been combined through the last couple years everybody okay with it yeah excuse me I didn't mean to interrupt you Steve oh can I just ask a quick question when you ask if everyone's okay with it Tom are you
allowed to vote on this I can't vote on so you're asking that Tom's recusing on all these okay just no I'm sitting back I can only make comments okay fire department oxygen and fire signatures 50125 265 410 1,200 recomend requested
12200 recommended any [Music] discussion we good Emergency Services building building maintenance 50125 26545 22,000 requested 22,000
recommended it's HVAC of $3,200 general maintenance generator maintenance excuse me load test of 9,000 elevator 7,400 major excuse me 2400 major expense known expenses 19,000 D minimum requesting an additional 3,000 in funding for expenses
that are not known anticipated Mr darara can you go through this so can the department explain all this the HVAC um yearly maintenance agreement is $3,200 it pays to have that because they come out and do major Services during the season changes and the hourly rate is
less uh during business hours and emergency call hours if we have a maintenance agreement we have one here at Town Hall we have one at ESB um since the HVAC um you know since the twoyear what's it called
was uh General the generator maintenance and the load test equal 9,000 so out of the 9,000 the low test alone is 5675 I did do um some price comparisons why can't we just why can't we just run
the building under under our own load and not do a load test is it required that we do a load test every year yes every year it's it's required to do a load test that's a DCA requirement um I don't know if it's a DCA requirement but it's a state law we
went through the last year when we had to do it and we weren't expecting it and uh I did all the leg work I just don't remember it off the top of my head um we went through several different options to see which was going to be the cheapest even projecting it forward and
doing the yearly load test uh is cheaper than than it was like spending 30 or $40,000 to bring in equipment that would avoid us having to do low test and then included in that $9,000 is the general M uh general maintenance of the yearly
contract so whatever 9,000 minus the 5675 um it's a little more costly than our generator here at township hall it's much bigger plus it runs on diesel fuel so there's a lot more maintenance that has to be done when they do the four uh Services throughout the year so there's
one major and then three minors they call it so altoe those are required especially the load Bank test because that's a that's a safety uh consideration and that comes to 9,000 the elevator uh maintenance is 2400
those accounted for the major expenses I then added up um what was known in 2024 expenses and that's where I came up with to 19,000 and I asked for 3,000 in you know what if money I don't want to minimize
it by just calling it what if but like last year we had a storm come through and knock off a piece of electrical equipment up on the roof and that alone was $1,500 so you know the $33,000 for a humongous building like that that's no longer under you know a maintenance Bond
um is hopefully acceptable uh to the council so that's so when I'm when I'm adding up the 329 and 24 I'm coming up with 146 how' you get to 19 right so if you remember what I just said those numbers that I itemized are the major expenses the known expenses accumulating
up to 19,000 was the major expenses plus the expenses that I went through during the audit and look for um like impact fire Services is is expensive to do the the tests throughout the
year um what's the service with the kitchen that's a reliable yeah that's the fire suppression the fire suppression for the kitchen for the kitchen that's we've done twice a year yep um let's see what else was another major how about Air Center doesn't the air
compressor have to be tested compressor has to be tested on serviced every year as well right so those were the not major but the not minor somewhere like in the middle minor expenses so again the reoccurring expenses that we're expecting to pay for
the the building that are known accumulate up to 9 thou $199,000 and uh or just short of it and then again just asking for $3,000 if acceptable to the council for who knows what's going to happen again a minor um
sensor came off the roof that operates the street lights um and it cost $1,500 to put back we even tried seeing if it was worth it to go through Insurance obviously you know our deductibles 2500 so we tried um
so I recommend we take a th off so that's my motion you want to make a 21,000 21,000 I'll second that motion it's peanuts but well something happens we'll fix the building I'm looking at I'm looking at the uh the
control number so okay we we should we can call if we really need it from somewhere else y roll call councilman C yes councilman seers I have to recuse myself Council Willet
yes and council president desna yes fire department equipment purchases 50125 265 490 5,000 requested 5,000 recommended do we know what equipment purchases we looking for
2025 uh so off the bat our highes they are mostly reused from old apparatus uh their old fiberglass had a drill this past year we had a couple of them snap and break ouch so we do have
to get a couple of those replaced and they have a almost pocket size thermal imaging camera we're looking to purchase for the Chiefs Vehicles so that we can take a look at something prior to a truck arriving okay how many of those are you
anticipating purchasing one fre vehicle so two right two tall and I think it's three total pip PS right now at least okay do we have any of those we have a few of those already right cameras we have the the
large ones inside Each truck inside the rig but inside the truck but we don't have them in the chief's cars so by get putting them in the chief's cars if we show up for like the oven fire that was a kid's toy right if I had the camera to be able to just check the kitchen real quick I would
have never had a roll the truck and that keeps the truck off the road Manpower you know liability it just it it kind of calms things down a little bit so it helps the town out by keeping the truck off the road not using fuel got it I'm okay with it everybody okay with it
don't GI Jo the oven fire department miscellaneous 50125 265 500 1500 requested 1500 recommended okay with it yeah yeah flipping the page to 36 car department inspection and Chief's
dinners 6,500 requested 6,500 recommended any discussion no fire department Hardware and Parts 50125 265 620 1,500 requested 1500 recommended it's bad in line with what
they've done every year so I'm okay with it that's fine yes fire department clothing allowance 501 25266 47,500 requested 47,500 recommended this is swapping out uh the
fire gear itself negative the clo clothing allowances yearly stien for the firefighters and the week they took on three four new members on to this so that you about
right that number is generated to uh cover each member if they make their percentage correct that's the percentage right um not everybody makes that percentage so they don't get their stien and do they get a partial sing Mr Villas no no it's either if you make you have
to make 50% of the credits that you're responsible for our department is split up as day members and night members so and weekends are 24 hour it's a little complicated but but there's no it's it's
either you make it or you don't it's not there's no partial credit fail president you refer to the ordinance it tells you right in the first paragraph oh it's on the back up I'm sorry I didn't realize that's it was attached all persons holding positions
in the office of fire protection shall be paid a clothing allowance in the amount set forth herein provided said persons have had more than 50% attendance at public fire Duty and drill the person entitled to an allowance is a paid employee with the township such allowance will be paid through the payroll system
$725 I'm okay with it everybody okay with it yes yes Chief did you want to discuss that Mr Mr council president uh we were looking to give every one of our members who do make their percentages to
receive a $25 cost of living increase to their clothing amounts okay bringing it from 725 to 750 so that way we' need to do an amendment so that's a request to make the so we'd have to change ordinance 2411 to 750 going make a 25
anyway make a new one year I'm saying but we're going to amend we're going have to reduce 24-11 to be 750 for that item right and we can do that without increasing the I'm I'm I'm okay with putting on on the next council meeting yes everybody okay with that you've been doing this like an increase of you three
to four years I yeah I was on Council last time council president okay to have that prepared for the council thank you is that enough 25 it's you said the money that's in there will cover the $25 okay cost that's that's the normal increment we move I'm okay with it thank you no
just because they said they were a little behind fire prevention maintenance trucks 50125 26700 7500 requested 7500 recommended it's in line with um
they Trend right we got to PM the trucks to keep them in service so Anybody Everybody okay with it I am Mr Casco I'm just again I just look
at past history on it um so they only spent seven last year seven the year before that exactly seven in three years it was five and three
so nothing's going down I can promise you that uh I get it I I understand good with it yeah I'm good fire hose pump and Ladder testing 50125
2671 5800 requested 5800 recommended is this a bill for testing and uh host testing and Ladder testing annual yeah annual testing it's a contract rate it's a contract rate it uh depends
on the the company that we use um you know there's no State contracted companies so it's uh wherever you can find ladder testing has become a issue a lot of the companies are dropping it for insurance purposes so they dropping are dropping the test dropping the testing
so you're now limited to certain the larger companies which like to charge you more more now they Monopoly CU and that's what so you know this year I already I have the quotes um on my phone um I have three different companies now doing it to try to save this T money you
know we usually try to stay with one company to do it all like one stop shopping yeah you can't but I can't you know it was just too much that I would have been requesting you know 7500 for this and not thank you thank you for doing that everybody okay with it yes
fire department turnout gear 50125 2673 25,000 recommended 25,000 requested any discussion how many how many sets of turnout gear will that buy us 25,000 approxim approximately five
five and will that keep us in line with everybody replacing their turnout gear and time that incl that includes new members that that have come on recently and it's also replacing older members gear you know Pro the 10year NFP I'm okay with that everybody okay
with that moving on to page 7 uh Fire Stop pack compliance $2,000 is requested $2,000 is recommended it's a reduction from last year is it okay the 2000 I guess we're in good compliance with Scott pack last year we had to hydro test a bunch of
bottles um this year where we we don't have really any hydro testing I think it's next year chap going forward after this year the next four years we have between 15 to 30 bottles each year to test okay so next year will be next four years will be uh my increases okay so
it's only for what we need on this on this one okay uh fire internet 50125 2683 3, 3,300 requested 3300 recommended uh seven computer iPads and
trucks everybody okay with it we get six can you do six iPads instead of seven well this is for the internet for those iPads they have I thought I'm sorry my mistake yeah this is for the service right this is for the the provider to
give you signal yeah I miss read I'm okay with it yes uh next line fire hyren service 50125 270000 168,000 requested 168,000 recommended this was confirmed with
realia um are we certain Mr Dar Carlo we spoken toia have they done yes sir I did it myself I spoke with our liaison and if you could tell from the audit Trail it went up about $1,500 a month halfway through the year without any notice to us so I confirmed that it will remain
that for the year U projected out to $168,000 we need to write them a n do we have a do we have a um a maintenance of when all the hydrant have been flushed and maintained and that they're all in working order because I see a a lot of them are you know that haven't been
painted in years that's part of the round maintenance agreement and haven't been opened since I've moved into my into this town and I walk every day unless they come in the middle of the night to open those hydrants which I know they don't because my water would be brown um
I know the only people that open them is if the fire department needs them and I don't want them to open them with a so can we can we do a little diligence and find out I don't want to end up with like Ridgewood and open up a hydr and stem cracks because it's rotted away and is there a law on that you know do it have to be done a
certain it's in our agreement with that they have to maintain it they're supposed to open them twice a year every single fire every single fire suppos that's not happening why not happens in all my all the town I happen I don't remember having an agreement with them I think it's the same for all the towns I don't think we have a
certain agreement with them no no but it's that's the minimum it should be but we cheat please I've seen them Town T they do sometimes but not I don't think they've done all of them um do we have a list of how many we have yes we do have
a list right Mr we have a list of how many Hy it is right I don't I'm not aware of a list I mean I'm sure the violia must have a list but I'll check for that I don't have it with me but I can get it for you I don't I don't miss I'm just curious there's a lot of head I
don't know there's a lot of fire HR I every single fire Hy in this town into our mapping system so oh into our code software that we use so I'm pretty sure it can calculate the total number that's in there counting each one why don't you give Mark the list and he'll compare it with the number be gives him to make
sure they're very close I hope so yes thank you exactly fire department physicals 50125 271 00 2,000 requested 2,000 recommended everybody okay with that we
have new new people coming in yeah got the a bunch of people just have three recruits right yeah yeah right right now I'm going to need at least three that are going to get done what are they running up I'm going to refer to my Balan
Chief um I don't have the exact numbers on me but I would imagine it's probably 200 2 295 28 Valle group it looks like it was
$280 last year I'm not sure if it went out okay I'm okay with that number they reduce it length of service award program loap 50125 27200 95,000 requested 95,000
recommended I think we did the ordinance tonight how much did we spend last year Mr well 2024 numbers I don't have yet did we just do we hav't yeah but oh we don't we have who who qualifies but we don't have the calculations yes you think it's the same amount of
people uh Mr bilus as in 2023 that qualified or more we had the list was in the yeah but I don't know how many were in I'm just curious about similar it's very 39
members qualified this year it's exactly the same as last year that's exactly the same is 2023 so I 2023 I'm okay with it I'm okay with it stays it's been the same valuable you know
um that takes us to the end of the fire department uh budget part of the Budget Tires yeah I got to flip yeah we're done in that section I got oh yes I apologize you know what page it is Mr car uh I didn't tag that I
apologize that's because it's so cold down at this end what's that it's so cold you're working 45 see ites up on 45 there's uh five vehicles for tires fire tires on 4 you go second second line
down yeah fire vehicles tires 50126 315 002 1500 recommended 1500 requested I'm okay with it you never know what how many tires we're going to need CU truck TI truck tires are truck tires
are expensive and I also do have a calendar for the future guys to follow along to rep truck tires need to be replaced every seven years yeah if it's coming out warm we'll take it I ice box I don't know about down
there it's cool down there for them too okay I can we get a maintenance guy to fix this thing have main have m in the budg fix we could take it out of
salaries didn't do that right away remember that when you call fire vehicle equipment to repairs 50126 3155 3,000 requested 30,000 recommended anticipated work needed on all four
apparatus what do we have gentlemen so I request I requested the $5,000 increase uh a for the price of things that are going up um B already this year I've already spent close to
$4,000 on one of my trucks and I still have another $2,000 in a queue already waiting um you know trying to push it off as long as I can um I also have work that needs to be done from last year's defect list that we got that we you know classified as not a high priority for
you know to do be done right away because we are already overspent on our budget so we we were like all right we'll fix this next year so and that's another probably around $4,000 worth Bo and now this is not just you know fire vehicle equip know repairs this is also
equipment repairs I sent out a for gas meter to get you know recalibrated it comes out of that line item if somebody breaks something you know it comes out of that line item so uh hence the reason for the increase so but we are going to do work on all four apparat absolutely so what
it can do we know what we need to do on or just general just general once they come to do their preventative maintenance we get a defect list preventative maintenance are scheduled for July uh July August I'm sorry and uh and then they send us a defect list I do
have like right now engine 43 all the door locks need to be changed we had a instance where the truck went on a call the door actually locked and they were unable to shut the door um that was an interesting way of getting the truck back to the Firehouse you know luckily
one of our in-house mechanics was able to take the door apart get it to work again this is not one of the new trucks no no this is the one that's 20 20 just want to make sure one of the new trucks and uh you know he was able to get it to work contacted fire and safety they looked at it they told us that there's
an update to those locks but of course not covered under warranty on a 20-year old truck you know it's so it's $2,000 to fix you know everybody okay with it no I want to take it down to, ,000 so you want to make it 29,000
no uh 20 23 right no they're asking for 30 I I'm sorry I'm sorry yeah that's the one we need to fix fix I'm looking at the control the control seems
there's yeah there's money in there so that's my proposal take a $1,000 out take it 20 29,000 29,000 you making a motion yes that only gives them a $700 buffer so vote
no what's up to you being that we spent 2836 we got to fix these locks for two grand we're already at the 30 no all right all right it stays then um where's the next is there any
more line items yes sir page 57 the fuel fuel yeah uh fire department gasoline diesel 50131 46002 6500 requested 6500 recommended any reason we're increasing it so much
or just for inflation Mark any reason we increased it I I don't remember off the top of my head I'll make a motion to bring it down to 2024 to 6,000 I'll second it roll
call CIO yeah Okay C se he Che myself council president sen yes I'm sorry coun within the Les yes I think that's the last item right
yeah the other one is just ESB energy like electricity y That's not them that's not on them thank you gentlemen than you we take a 5 minute recess it seems to blowing out P there again
e e e e e e e e e e
e e e e e e okay so we stopped under um we're on page 19 is where we stopped last meeting Ricky says we're back on we're recording
yep okay so uh planning we're not doing salaries right now yes can I ask why we're just skipping over salaries we're going to do them at the end we said the reason so we could just fly through
these pages in um particular for this one I'm okay with doing it it's such a a small increase I'm okay with it everybody okay with it we just do this page well you mean I was just holding off all salaries till the
end I think we should just stay that way now that we've done 20 something pages of it well you got the whole page down uh under the salary comparison so I mean it might be easier just to do it that way yeah at the end we'll just do that page that's that was the
attempt what's that no he was it was just just a side for all right um planning department secretary meeting fees 50121 180120 3,000 requested 3,000 recommended it's 24 meetings at $125
each meeting everybody okay with that see yes yes uh planning department office supplies 750 requested 750 recommended uh service contract what is that for the meter this is this is the uh remember we were that service
contract for the um the recording system for the recording system we were sharing the increase because the Court's out between planning and uh and the clerk's office the whole 750 goes towards that no no no no no just a portion yeah it's got how much do you remember the
installments it might be or close to be um well no obviously we're accounting for her you know for some 13 something is50 I don't think I asked for an increase in zoning let me just look well planning department went up zoning office supplies we actually asked for a
adoption so it was we're just going to attribute um what was shared by the court to be shared by planning board and then if you remember I also we have that uh repair for That official time stamp and thing that's several
hundred bucks that that was accounted for too so I guess my question is going from 4 4 to 750 is the 350 the share the contract that you're they for the essentially and some of it was to
Tribute for that $400 repair we need to make to That official time St so between the contract for the uh recording and the machine repair yes okay everybody okay with it yeah all right uh planning department boards does meetings
and conferences flipping the page 2600 recommended 2600 requested uh 24 meetings at $100 each and 10 JP 200 we only spent 1685 last year that's if it because they get
cancelled some of the meetings how's our how's our uh I know Mr Mar you can probably speak how's your uh agenda bin I know you canel a couple yeah very light uh but the next couple we'll have for planning board I mean
Master Plan reviews um but again this is a number I I you know it's not that big it's not small but I hate to go up and down you know it's better to just in my opinion leave it static as opposed to taking it up some years down some years
just my opinion well it seems like we're having less meetings but the whole whole planning Department's going up so that's what I'm concerned with can we take it can we take it down 20 I'm going to make a motion takeing down 200 24 never really used it for the meetings
you'll second that Mr SE roll call Council casam yes councilman seers yes Council yes council president to yes planning was that 2400 00 deduction thank you planning department board
Legal Services 50121 18260 8,000 requested 8,000 recommended attorney 24 meetings at 250 each could be four extra meetings expected involvement with master plan requested by planning board chairman we only used
half that last year I'm okay with bringing it down to last year's amount of 7,000 well we weren't were we doing the planning board meetings no we're we weren't doing that many meetings last year with the master plan w we we actually started no we did
you have master plan meetings didn't you last year not that many yeah but I this year will'll be pretty full the whole year yeah they only spent $4,000 yeah but we're going to have to present it they're going to have to present it we got to review it and knowing what
challenges we're going to get from down the street I think we're get any challenges you don't think we're going to get any no no why would we I mean based on the master plan I would ask if we leave it but then look at next year when we the master PL
hopefully in our rearview mirror say it again I'm sorry I would ask to leave the 8,000 because we have the master plan review that we'll take most of this year and then look for a reduction in 26 when the master plan is hopefully all done I put a motion out there to make it
7,000 if anybody wants a second you're more than welcome if not all die I'll set this is requested by the planning board chairman yes that's a line roll call councilman Cassio yes councilman Sears I'm going to have to say no
because I attend those special meetings and I'm pretty sure that they're going to need it knowing uh uh Lenny requesting this he's more in tuned could we table this maybe
and ask Lenny well the only reason I did it Mr Mr SE was he he planned on 24 meetings at 250 I know the February meetings are already canceled aren't they Mr Mayor if I'm not mistaken reading the billboard I only go by the I think both of them were canceled yeah so this year we've already canceled four of those meetings so that's $1,000 that's
the only reason I reduced it to $1,000 because we' already canceled four meetings in 2025 so I I just took then I'll I'll second that motion 4000 that was my that was my only reason okay and I I just want thanks for explaining that we hav had any yet this year no we have
some in in January but not February but do we anticipate having a whole bunch later on because of the master you don't know that's the it's hard to predict we still have a $3,000 cushion in there I mean you only spent four last year I I'll second that well you a vote yeah so
you're okay with it onez 7,000 correct yes yes yes council president to 7 yes planning department board legal advertisement 600 requested 600 recommended I'm okay with it we got same as last
year uh planning department board consultation non-legal uh 1500 requested 1500 recommended po Asen involvement with master plan requested by planning board chairman can we get some understanding
you're like why is it 1500 from 85 well because paid I'm sorry go ahead we paid for the master plan last year which was 85,500 so obviously that's not an expense for this year however um like I told you uh the council before the the
experts and you know the professionals Mr can you do me a favor can you just turn your microphone a tighty bit towards you I get a question sorry the professionals expect to get paid and um absolutely we have to have money there to pay them so Paul
Asen that I guess you know is is uh consulted so just to clarify just to clarify Mr Dar Cara um Mr aino is the planning board ATT uh engineer Boswell is the zoning board engineer and Beck Meer is the town engineer excellent
perfect you got is that correct you got sir wow so a question if he's I'm sorry council president go ahead Mr if Paul enel is the m engineer shouldn't that be out of his
other line item than there 1500 given to him well he doesn't have it yeah we don't have a retainer for him or anything he no retainer no so does he have a shall we line item or he has an hourly rate nothing an hourly rate okay
thank you y any discussion ladies and gentlemen no we're good we're good uh plan Department board training 500 requested 500 recommended do we have new members planning don't think so no you
guys appointed councilman alond again the only almond he was on it no new members for 25 at least not yet you never know if someone's going to leave but the assistant to uh the planning zoning board did request to go to some training I don't remember the name of can't hear
you sorry the assistant to the zoning and planning board uh that Mr Miss Kish what's that Miss Kish well she's the the SEC she is the admin right she's not the assistant well I don't call Secretary yeah I just I call him assistant um so
she has a desire to go to training this year I just forget the name of what it was but that's why we kept it up um 500 rather reducing it in comparison to last year's actual expense I can't hear he he the the the uh they hear you down the zoning board
and planning board uh ad would like to do some training oh okay but it's just hard is a training and and or new board members yeah that that training line I don't I don't there I don't remember if there
was any new planning board members this year I don't think there were but that's what that line uses it for so it would be for employee training it would be for turn it off again it's cold everybody okay with it probably to hear better to you okay with it Mr C can
we and what was the cost of the training I don't remember off the top of my head it was a specific can we take 100 off is that your motion yeah I'll second roll call this is for 501
21180 370 you want a motion $100 down yes councilman Cassio yes councilman SE yes Council BL yes council president Des yes uh going to the top of page 21 which
is zoning board clerk uh 20 that's a salary so we going to skip that uh zoning officer going to skip that uh code official going to skip that zoning board secretary meeting fees uh 50121
185140 12 meetings at $125 each and two extras for 1,700 total requested and recommended every you okay with that I'm okay with it what do we have so far in zoning I could answer that I don't see the cancellations I don't think they've
canel I don't Z I don't think they've canel any Mr CIO just going off what you know when you did planning that they didn't have it I I I only go when I go to Food Town grer I read the sign that's all I gu leave it for now I'll try and get an
answer see what was canceled and then if all we'll come back to it zoning office no no we'll leave it we'll leave it we'll do it for now go back to it go back come back zoning office office supplies five I'm not going to read it 800 requested 800 recommended um it's
exactly what they used last year is everybody okay with it $100 reduction yep bless you zoning office dues meetings and conferences 4,300 requested 4,300 recommended 12 meetings recorded at $300 each League attendance
and association dues why the big jump uh 12 3600 can we minus 300 on that um if you want to skip it and give
me a second because there was a specific reason and I think it may have been association dues what is the 12 meetings recorded at 300 each what's that first to record that monthly meeting see TV that's oh
yeah so we record zoning but we don't record planning or okay okay I didn't I think that was specific so if you don't mind either skipping it or tbling it so I can get a better is it
needed what you know what just ballp parking here is there a law that's requiring us to record those meetings that would be a big saving putting it out to the public like transparency yeah I mean some stuff is
happening around your home that'll give you a little insight you should be at the meeting if it's you know something we can discuss you know at another meeting if we want to continue with that um that's a big
is there a way that we can tell how many times it's downloaded those meetings yeah I think there's a counter on it says how many people M it I'm just just curious like you got 10 people watching it or 20 people is it worth is
it worth 4,000 yeah no to those people it is yeah obviously I'm just curious like what the 2023 views were for meeting you could probably ask Ricky I guess he would have it's to PR discussed disc let's table
this one we'll get back Mr Dar car will table this one yes sir thank you uh zoning office uh board Legal Services 25500 requested 25500 recommended um spent what 21194 last year there's a
note on the next page yeah oh I'm sorry that's attorney two civil suits is answer that yep I asked uh the attorney that was handling both cases for a projection for 2025 and uh that's where I came up with the numbers plus and it is a reduction
from last year yeah I'm okay with it everybody okay with it yep um flipping the page to [Music] 22 oh hold on I just I just received some information from
Ricky currently the meetings are recorded it's about broadcasting them live currently the Planning and Zoning meetings are archived but not for public viewing for their policy all right we'll have to have more discussion on that I guess yeah I mean here's the thing if they're not viewing
it right and it's just for how many people come down and look at The Archives that's that's the next question I think it comes in handy if a board member misses a meeting that they can look at it if they're in the middle of a case yeah but they can look but the they have to read the minutes right
all right okay uh flipping the page to 22 legal advertising um 500 requested 500 recommended leave it yep just leave it alone uh zoning office board training 500 requested 500
recommended uh you have two new board members you don't think training Chang years from when they've been off I don't think I just don't know I don't think so take 100 we okay taking 100 off this that what you just said
yeah I'll second it minus 100 uh roll call Mr Sears and I'll second it councilman Casio yes councilman Sears yes Council bz yes counc president to Center
yes uh uniform construction code uh UCC official this is a salary so we'll skip that uh Plumbing off next lines are all salaries right how far down we go look like office supplies all the way down to the bottom of page 23 is office supplies
right the second lineup uh uniform construction code office supplies 750 requested 750 recommended it's in line with their spending last year I'm okay with it everybody okay with it yep flipping the page to 24 did you get that not sure hold on I
was still on 22 23 did you want to do the CCO inspections where is that right above the one oh okay yeah CCO inspections uh uniform construction code CCO inspections 11,000 requested 11,000
recommended um why is it up we only spent 9900 last year remember it funds itself I mean I know you're raising it in the budget but it does fund itself because the the residents pay for that well here's if
you take it down and you're bringing Revenue who cares bringing Revenue up you can spend 12 I'll make a motion to make it 10 I'll second that we spent 9900 last year I mean what do we do if we have another good year well we didn't spend 9 because it's self funding so we spend no I know but we
need to we need a source to spend right to pay for it I can't spend from anywhere else I have to have a budget line that's to it's off setting but we have to have we got a control total yeah we do have a control total have a control total so you can if you
had to once we do the other ones could pull it out there true but most of it is salaries and that's what we expect to salaries s project floating position that's a new line this year yeah I see that well we renamed it I
don't remember what it was uh but we didn't fund it last year well we didn't so I don't I'd have to go back and look to see what it was go two up mayor so can you table that M Mr D it can you get us info on that which one the floating the special I renamed it
because we didn't use it last year so I can explain to you what we're hoping to do this year all right well let's finish CCO inspections I'm in a motion you second it so let's vote on that and we'll go from there councilman yes councilman Sears yes Council bz no
council president to sen yes so I'm sorry that's 10 10 yes thank you so for if you can get us information on that 185 line item yeah we can just we can look in the audit if I look at the audit Trail it'll well there's nothing for 2024 there zero no I know but it'll tell
me the name oh I got you yeah if you just give me a second so I got to go to 22 1995 750 say the same right what's it the 750 say the same at the bottom we didn't touch that one yet we didn't do office supp oh no off office supp yes I'm sorry office supplies is done check
I'm sorry 195 185 I'm CL 50122 195 1885 fingers almost there I'm almost there oh it was called Planning and
Zoning Le aison so you remember last year we combined it into the TA salary so it was just a it was an available line for me to rename and um the position where hoping for if you remember we had several
topics was just escrow that's sitting there open permits open invoices and we were hoping to have this amount budgeted and then in the salary ordinance we were going to propose a $25
an hour um what would be the word position position but then we didn't we give that already to the Head ta that's what we did last year that's why we combined it so now we're going to recreate the same position we gave to the head no no not at all so what I use is that line
the line used to be called Planning and Zoning liaison so all it was was an available line number that I renamed building department special project I wanted we wanted to fund it with $5,000 and in the salary ordance we
were going to propose a salary of $25 an hour for existing employees this wouldn't be a new employee it would be for like a additional hours but it would not incur overtime but isn't this already being done by an employee isn't it in somebody's job description
already yes by's yes and no because this this is to um go back and cre correct all those problems I told you we discovered from 1999 of escrow money fitting there
there's no time for current employees during their current hours to take this on so that's why we were going to propose I don't know that we'll use all 5,000 I just estimated um open permits there's there's tons of open permits in
the in the um building department but there was remember I told you there was probably about $200,000 of escro money that was encumbered that we closed out um and it took months and months to do that because employees had to find the
time when they had spare time to do this so we are hoping we could propose something at a reasonable price of $25 an hour again it would not be done during their their day because they would fill out a voucher for it so they would not be double dipping and they
would not go past 40 hours a week therefore making it a an you know a time and a half situation so it be managed correctly and this would be the hopes to correct all those wrongs um and you know what's involved just with one refund
right we have to do the resolution yes so we'll table that now that we have the information we'll review with the thank you all right so flipping the page to 24 oh I'm sorry sir what did you do with the CCO inspections we cut it down to 10,000
okay uh mileage dipen uh 280 750 requested 750 recommended I'll recommend taking 100 off 100 off it that's what we did with the other one we did it with all the other on I thought we took 50 off the other we take 50 this is M I'm sorry I
shouldn't spoke out that ter council president that's for multiple people it's not just one was $50 we took away didn't what did we take off the other ones actually I thought it was 50 went for administration it wasn't 550 hold on just go back on page two 100 100 yeah
council president it it was 100 because I was looking to recoup last years that they lost so the net is 50 really each year that they've come off just of note that's not one person that's shared amongst uh several individuals in the
UCC okay so we have a motion to make it 650 you said Steve M I'll second it they exceeded that number last year yeah yeah they exceeded 650 687 just we should get the whole right I don't know
why it's less than 750 right well again I salary ordinance in front of me that that cuts it down to who gets what if you're willing to let me look that up but again the these are individuals that truly use their vehicles for work rated you know that's
what they drive to inspections yeah but that's their job right yeah but we've always given them a stien okay all right to look up you got to look it up
now Mr you want table it not 24 salary okay let go s annual mileage stien business administrator clerk building plumbing inspector electrical subcode official and fire sub code official get 250 each so the plumy inspector gets 250
electrical sub code official gets 250 fire sub code official gets 250 and then the tax assessor uh receives 250 and I don't think you reduced I don't want you to go back but you didn't reduce the tax assessor stien no you're
right we didn't tax no and I I I hope that doesn't alert you to go and do it now we're going to go back with it no you so each each one of those three people get 250 out of that line item yes so how come last year they only
there was a shortage oh one of them wasn't here I think it was a vacancy there was a vacancy right now I remember that's why Steve right okay all right I'm we we'll leave it alone then thank you I appreciate that we okay we leaving it alone all right moving down uh
Furniture equipment 200 requested 200 recommended how come we over spent so much last year is that a Miss is that I got to look up the no but you know towards the end of the year if there's something we need we'll wait to see how the expenses are in the control and I'd have to look just to see
what it was I also we found money for that line last year in the controller don't use my tactics against me well you you used it before that let me just look I forget what it was oh it was The copier what we did was
uh to save a significant amount of money we ended up getting getting a copier down there because the ink for the printer we had because they print so much stuff okay so we we we bought a copier for down there we didn't buy it it's a it's a lease so we I think we paid the uh the up front cost yeah yes
that's I'm okay with the 200 everybody okay with the 200 yep thank you uh training 500 requested 500 recommended they've only spent $245 the last two years everybody okay with it I'll take it down 200 you want it to go to three
go to three I'll second it roll call councilman cassum yes councilman Sears yes councilman blz no I think we've got a lot of changes
coming C president to Center yes uh printing 500 requested 500 recommended they've spent zero the last two years yeah the problem is if they do have to print something rather large if be appreciative to have the money um
there but I understand what you're saying take it down 100 motion to take it down 100 100 I'll second that roll call councilman Cassio yes councilman seers yes Council bz yes council
president senum yes uniform construction code miscellaneous 5,500 requested 5,500 recommended do we know we spent I got to look at control line 195 500 CWB government CWB
government Workforce computers oh we bought a computer yeah we had to replace remember I told you I was able to you know lower the the burden on us this year by some leftover money that we had last year got got a head start on the
computerss we had to turn around for this year but then like the last year the law came and they were required to buy a bigger piece of equipment so that's kind of my catchall for whatever might come down the pike with the building
department can we drop it a th EXC I'm sorry the 4500 yeah I'll second that you second roll call C C yes councilman seers yes Council valz
20,000 52 yeah but they bought computers last year yeah all right yes council president the s yes uh uniform construction code sdl um is that a contractual that's the
uh the software vendor yes sir so that's a bill 10,400 yes that's a big increase wow soft oh my gosh all right going to page 25 um liability insurance that's an exact
number that's the bill 262 814 re requested 262 814 recommended that's an invoice it says as as GIF that's jff yes that's jff yes okay work with Compensation
Insurance same thing 25685 requested 25685 recommended it says it's an invoice okay okay everybody okay yep uh health benefits uh 50123
220000 uh 37 employees on HealthCare Employee offset 177% increase in premium 800,000 re requested 800,000 recommended is that correct 17% pre how is our program working it's it's
really working great it really is uh you know we've we ironed out some wrinkles very early on and uh we periodically check in with our non-union and union members and it it seems to be going very well and again when a when a situation
pops up um Joy our health benefits coordinator she gets right involved in there and it it's ironed out that there's even was a handful since the beginning of this um but there is there is more employees now on Healthcare um than there were when we switched over it
I think there's two more so I have 37 employees on Healthcare um and this does account for the employee offset and the 17% increase in premium so if we didn't go to the difference card that would have been over a million
dollars okay everybody okay with it yep and well I don't want to confuse you I know you see a reduction it is but we created two new lines yeah just saying that two new lines offset the reduction there's no reduction there right so but the good
increase either right so difference card monthly fees uh so that's that is um I would say contractual too so it's $51 35 per employee per month times 37 employees and that's where we come up
with that number but we made a new line so it's identifiable to the council right and you know easier organizationally for the ones that dip into those lines but for the council now you know exactly what is attributed per cost so you have the monthly fees and
then the line below it uh is our employee claims and I'll explain that when we get there so it's 5135 time 37 is what you're coming up with 22800 yeah I mean I might have I might have put a little extra in there in case you know we get another employee that you know um
throughout the year or whatever I I don't know I'd have to do the math but I may have put a couple extra bucks but not much if I did anything do the temporary employees get a card also only full timers full Tim it over 30 hours Mark uh for
eligibility well 29 29 so let me just do 5135 time 37 = 22799 you gave you 60 cents thank you very generous take it to the back to cast you on fine if you want to take it down very
generous don't take it down don't take it down the dollar all right being a wi next line item health benefits employee oh sorry I'm just just just analyzing and this not going to change the number all 800,000 is fine but you know if you
add up the what we're going to spend in the next two three lines the 800 the 22 and the 30 that's still cheaper than what we paid in 23 by almost $40,000 so just keep that in mind M so that's if we didn't make any of these
changes it would have gone up 177% times two years well yeah but I'm just saying still you're saving right you know like the grand scheme things what $43,000 really not enough sounds like not a lot but it's it's a lot but but aren't the employees picking up the 177% or are we
picking up the 177% the premium went up premium Shar so it would be shared correct it's a shared like it's it's that P the they we're still we're still in that title um chapter chapter2 chapter 72 was2
702 so even though it's sunsetted chapter 7 even though it's sunsetted we're still following those like if you make over 100,000 you have to contribute 35% and so forth the plan we're in still went up 177% it's just like you know it's a lower price
not as bad right yes thank you it's crazy hey all right uh health benefits employee claims 50123 22002 30,000 requested 30,000 recommended what do you what you said
you had some backup yeah so I want to explain this so it makes sense so um if you remember we didn't go to the difference card until July 1st so when difference card gave us their proposal based on historical claims it was
anticipated for a full year of claims to be $775,000 obviously we only had it for six months and those six months if you divide 75 and half you would have figured it would have been like $36,000 right is that right
32500 36 $37,000 37 it actually it actually was um a little bit more than 40 so the claims were higher than what was anticipated so based on that that's how I have to estimate the claims to be in
2025 so the estimate for 2025 should be 96,000 up from what was estimated last year at 75,000 however we had to create a an account in Valley Bank y to draw from right so the difference card doesn't
come into our cers it goes into the special account that account ended um with 7 $5,000 so we came into this year almost like a trust like essentially the same concept um there so that 75,000 is
offsetting so we really needed 96,000 in that line however because of the $75,000 offset which I believe I put in the revenue that's why it's 30 so I don't want you to think it's only 30 it's really expected to be
96,000 but because we had that offsetting amount that's why I only need asked for 30 so it should only be 21,000 then not 30,000 no 70 so 75 right 96 let me see what I put in 75 -
96 is 21 right was 65 maybe I was thinking maybe it didn't have to go on the revenue because it was it's money already on hand but that's the offsetting is what is to what to uh focus on there and that that that will still grow if we don't use it
right time so it should go let's say we use 20,000 10,000 for year that'll be there trust account without it being a full trust account what page were we on maybe eventually have to fund it well
I mean we good Lu with that're both medical New Jersey ain't G not gonna happen you know again you know I I don't know what it was obviously because medical expenses babies deliver you know children delivered so all right
everybody okay with that line yes Dental life accident Insurance uh 64,900 requested 64,900 recommended it's life insurance Delta Dental and FD acent Insurance EXC me so that's an actual number right Mark it's not an actual
number but between those three that's what we're we're estimated how many people do we still have in Delta Denton D Delta I would imagine probably every bit of everyone that's on health but I don't know that for exact I can get you an exact one I think
so we had some retirees right that we're on they're all off now a retiree is off of off of the there's no no more no don't re no it's a net zero I think there's still
one or two there's two yeah well there's three actually they allowed the don't yes okay I guess that's a perfect place to stop tonight cuz the next is a whole different department you don't want to keep going for a little bit longer no no
we did a lot today I'm freezing the heat fix somebody bring a somebody bring a flask for that St motion to adjourn so move all right all in favor I