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e e e the public comment period of the meeting someone second all in favor I would anybody like to come up at this time and address the councel go ahead Mr Sabino I'm here this evening in the
capacity of uh the chairman of the town's uh planning board thank you last week I learned that uh the budget to to have out videos the planning board's uh videos Post St in July 1st
will no longer be recorded due to to budget constraints I'm here tonight to ask for your reconsideration to include funds in the 2025 Town budget to continue
recording and and subsequently put putting those videos on YouTube why as as everyone on the day knows 2025 we are updating the town's master plan and I believe by having these videos uh having
the meetings recorded that uploaded into YouTube will provide visibility to the town's Town's people to better understand where we stand with respect to the development of of the master plan everyone knows the master plan is used
for guidance uh for the zoning board and development of within our town so my point of view is we're not talking a lot of money here but why haven't we posted these videos to date ever uh myself and Mr Dar car have been talking about posting
them I just learned recently that they would not being posted on YouTube but there's no cost there's no cost to upload to Youtube but there is a cost to record them and not have them go anywhere it's $100 a week well it adds up Mr Mr Sao so I I understand everything everything is you know if
we're we're recording just to record them and we're not uploading them now that you're saying you're going to upload them to YouTube that's a different story but until the board adopts that that was not what we were presented at the last meeting we were told they get recorded and they get stored but they never get uploaded to
YouTube or to the public other than that night yeah I recently learned about that and that's why Mr Carl would tell you he and I even my planning board secretary we had talked about recording the vide specifically the ones around the master plan right a couple weeks ago about a
month ago we talked about well either we either we put them all online or we don't put any of them online it's it's well if we if there's no C to put them online but the board has to adopt them you have to you have to you have to put it in writing that you're going to post them online because right now it says that you're recording them and not
putting them online right is that Mr Mayor what we talked about at the last meeting uh well I wasn't at the last meeting the two Mee the meeting before that there were being recorded and just put it kept for storage only but never posted on that's correct I just don't know off hand if that's a board decision
or a town decision I believe it's a board decision I just don't know up hand Mr darar do you know I was told that it's a board decision and both both boards have elected at some point in time not to have them um shown at you know after the
meeting correct because I know when I was on zoning it was it was before my time that year I served as chairman it was already decided not to televise them you know to just have them as a record so I I don't know how we would change that Mike do you happen to recall what
the reasoning was I don't it done I don't know why okay I know it wasn't done during my it was done before me so two years two three years yeah I I've been on the plane board for 15 years I don't remember that conversation ever coming up so maybe was before my time yeah 15 years but I don't think it could
be before your time we didn't even have we have TVs back there that's what but what I would say is uh as the council representative on the planning board and after discussing it with Mr Sabino I do
think uh it is important I realize it is a expense uh an additional expense but as he as Mr Sabin always pointed out you know the town is at a uh very important
uh point with the reexamination uh of the master plan and uh for people to understand what is being uh discussed how it's being discussed and what the outcome of
those discussions are I think is important it's a extremely important topic uh we talk about uh densities we talk about zoning uh you know we had a presentation in Clos session this
evening those questions came up uh Mr um not Mr Burgess uh Mr Li Li Mr lien excuse me you know was able to reference uh our master plan our current zoning and I think it uh I do think it's a
benefit to the residents to understand the direction we're heading so I like I like the idea also because then one of the questions we had Mr saino is how many people have viewed to YouTube and we told well it doesn't get posted to YouTube so if we do finish it for the rest of this year and then in January
we'll be able to go and say h look two people watched it in July and five people watched in September so is it really worth tell you know doing this moving forward at least we would have a count council president Mr Orman would make that recommendation go back on I'd
support you mik can I ask you a question though um do people call in do they have the capacity to call in to the zoning meain like how we used to do is it zoom in the zoom there a zoom that people
can't call in they can call in and question no but only professionals can call it no no res we have a hybrid we don't we have you have H we have a full hybrid we don't have okay because that was a question we had that night as well if people could call in ask questions
and participate over the phone so they can so they can so I I agree with councilman SE andman that if it is being uploaded yeah up it makes sense instead of it just going in the cloud somewhere if I can just it sounds like you're
going to do it but if I can just add in we're spending 80 plus thousand of taxpayer money to do the master plan to spend another 2,000 to give them a view into it for those who are interested you know seems like money well spent it's not a matter of money it is money well spent but if it's going to get televised
but we were presented with it's going to go to the cloud and sit in the cloud and never get shown so why are we doing it that's that was how it was presented so as long as Mr Sabino gets the board to agree that we're going to televise him I have I I for it to put the money back need to
vote we're going through the budget we'll have to go through that line okay and then we can track it for next year yeah yeah this is like said this is an important juncture in town Haven years if no one's interested in the master plan they're not going to be interested in anything else down the line yeah
that's I think that's about that's a true statement so I'm okay go back few so council president just to make sure it's clear my mind the planning board needs to have a resolution I don't know if it's a resolution Mr Dar Carlo thought it needed to be voted on by the planning
board right Mr Dar Carlo that's I thought need to be voted on just discussing this with Ricky he said it was an indication that was made by both boards at some point yeah I don't think it would hurt to do a resolution yeah it's resolution a vote anyway okay I'll
get on the agenda the next meeting I think we got to do the same thing for zoning then somebody off to take it for zoning oh you want to do both boards well if we're going to pay for both Master PL in front of the yeah but I'm sure there's only board going to say why not do both us like a step can we you
know let's ask them let's ask the zoning board all right I'll reach out I'll reach out to the chairman I'm sure I mean it makes sense for both if they're going to televis it I'll reach out to the chairman and see if he wants to televise it and get approval on their end we'll just change the Buton all right all right thank you thank you
thank you would anybody else like to come up this time if you come up to the podium yes Andrea d uh 552 Hickory Street um so I understand then with the televising and all does that mean people can call
in or not that's my question to the planning board well no well when it used to be that we could call in Via Zoom say for this meeting this meeting you cannot call in so you can only like you're doing now or send your question in to
the Township Clerk and we'll address it and now the zoning board meetings are are can you call into them or again in person or send your questions I believe they're hybrid also yeah you can call in you can call into the zon okay very good thank you thank
you and Zoning Board you can call in and particip us it's you have to be in correct would anybody else like to come up this time motion to close the public comment portion of the meeting second all in
favor can I with [Music] yes to be back in public motion to open the public so move second all in favor I all a question for Miss B okay so based
on what we were talking about at the health health department meeting um were they going to be discussing that budget item or I'm a little confused okay tonight we're we had tabled the Health Board line so are we going to be
discussing that that's you know we know I don't know would the dpw's on tonight I guess we'll get to it later yeah Poss oh okay all right very good thank you okay motion to close the public comment per Mo second all in favor I 2025 budget Department of Public Works good evening
gentlemen if you'd like to come up Mr President what page are we on just it is on page um 38 thank you good evening everyone so we'll go through the lines
we'll go through the one by one and if we have any questions we'll ask we'll ask the uh gentleman out here all right so on on we're the first couple on P at bottom of page 38 are are salar so we'll skip those
um DPW contractual stiens not foran 7680 requested 7680 recommended this is a uh the bargaining agreement Mr yes it's an exact number sir that's an exact number are you okay with that yeah
uh DPW seasonal workers 112,000 requested 112,000 recommended it's up from last year 6,000 but they exceeded it by almost uh $116,000 last year we okay with that number um can you give me a rational why
was exceeding seon okay Z we have to try to keep uh seasonal employees employed to assist with leaf collection and some years ago is longer than others you saying you had more Leaves
last year no but the collection was a little more difficult last year using stor and Sherry so we had probably whole of them every day I think we got to look at Sherry again we have to we have to look at Sher again because last year was a disaster without Sher we had a truck
down correct no do you budget to total hours or individuals or like how does that 112 every individual is entitled to 2 29
hours um some however are college kids college people so they are not always available for 29 so we have to shuffle how they work so 20 29 hours max right per per week so how
many in at Peak sort of uh Peak Leaf is that when the you reach your max or is it through the summer is it pretty summer also they are filling also very much with Landscaping um the garbage trucks they work on the back and so
ideally we' like to have five or so seasonal people on he the household debris to right salary ordinances range from whatever dollar to whatever dollar and a lot of times it's
skill uh skill sets says that or you L the time Ser especially these days unfortunately you can not be flippant but you can uh flip burgers and chicken for the same amount of money as we P you know unfortunately
that's how it is okay um I'm just looking at uh the following page 38 where you're going to put on two new permanent employees how does that affect the seasonal workers pardon me how does that affect the seasonal
workers if you put if you're starting two new employees in September right usually most come in April and and they last throughout the year April is when the season starts for landscaping and debris collection grass
and garden debris household debris and we try to get as many hands as possible at that point okay so this is this would be my expectation going forward if that's if you're getting two new employees um starting in September right they going to be full-time I'm assuming
Council M cazu can I interrupt you sir it that's part of a plan of uh two retirees that are expected towards the end of the year oh okay yeah they the end of the year we'd be at the same okay that's well it wasn't indicated overlap
all right that explains that because if you're adding two then next year I would assume that we wouldn't need that many seasonals so okay oh I don't want to speak for the seasonals but the number of full-time regulars will be the way it is now that that I understand what I'm saying if it was an additional two right so now you have two more then that
seasonal for next year should come down significantly so okay understood thank you I misspoke I I assumed you meant seasonal work is beginning not full-time workers yeah that's I think we I think we cleared up thank you every everybody okay with the 112 or
yep mrman well we're not talking about permanent yet no we're at seasonal work we're still we're still on we're still on 112,000 just have you recruited yet for the summer we've began we've had two
we've had some interest two never showed for an interview one gentleman started uh today actually we getting ready for in the next next week or two when picks up we also had uh two individuals who
again were in college who can't start until June I asked if it would be okay if we contact them later in the year because I would not like to hire someone for June if someone applies for say next week or two weeks sure okay I'm okay with that Mr s I'm good
yes what's wrong yeah I mean aside from you know the police this is the most visible service we provide and okay winter watch 135 requested 135
recommended it's up uh $4,000 but we didn't even exceed it this year so so if council president if you don't mind 135 is the actual number we need and have needed we've been supplementing this line with our snow trust but our snow
Trust balance is consistently be getting lower and lower so you'll see there's a few account Lines within the DPW budget that we are going to have to fund either isn't this no trust to reimbursement from the county and so
forth yes so how is that going down if it keeps getting replenished well because we utilize it to supplement numerous things winter watch repairs equipment that's associated with snow plowing we use it to buy salt we use it
to buy brine what we get reimbursed by the county doesn't come close to the amount of money that we spend out of the snow tra okay so but if I could just um this is the challenge of budgeting
and I you know we've had this discussion and I understand your point of view but if it's been 135 for the past X years and we've been supplementing it there's no visibility into that and we
see it as a increase of $4,000 uh I understand you know your explanation is completely rational and it I I see what you're saying but it presents the challenge of you know budgeting
should these numbers be gross and then we have an offset in the trust that we are but yes but that's what I'm trying to explain to you that's not how the accounting with the with the line budget works it this the
trust would not be put in the revenue section what goes in the revenue section is unappropriated funds funds that we haven't received yet or that we received in anticipation of based on last year so I I don't I can't think of a way to to
satisfy that need for you without increasing Taxation and not using a trust but obviously I know that's not what you want so when you look at the audit Trail you'll see that it says we pay for winter watch out of the snow
trust and then during these budget discussions that's when I fill everybody in hey this is what we need but I either have a grant for it or we have a snow trust for it you know and 135 is what's in anticipated to um to need this year it's based on their
overtime so it's it's I think it's 16 hours a week overtime so they each get different pay it's not like anybody on winter watch gets $100 it's based on their overtime pay so the most senior guy is going to be at top pay as an am man in
2025 is going to be more than their top pay as an am man in 2024 so that's why you know it's it's different but we haven't increased the account line because we've been supplementing it with the snow trust but
we're just supplementing too much and we're unable to keep the balance of the snow trust you know plentiful to keep supplementing all these account lines did we get as of this run and
we've been reimbursed yeah the only we get is it $115 per fillable hour $115 per truck hour yeah that's it so each storm we're we're going between like $11,000 and $2,000 dep it depends on the amount of
time you spend on the county roads it's just on the county roads right so if you ask one truck or however many trucks for a total of eight hours on a County Road you get to 8 time 115 right so it's not even up to 2,000 unless it's a big storm
so that's all we're getting reimbursed that's the only thing that goes in there other than when I can suff from Reserve at the end of the year Bill Mark when's the last time that 115 was increased by the county only a few years back it was
90 it was okay thank we we have a current shared service agreement that I think we yeah I just didn't remember how long it had been 115 everybody okay with the 135 I'm I'm good with the explanation you pous call yes
yes uh the next is a salary uh next is foran stien $4,100 requested 4,100 recommended that's the uh collecting bargaining agreement right so everybody okay with that yes um DPW vacation
buyback 1,000 requested 1,000 recommended does anybody buy their time back not in quite some time now but it has happened okay every okay I would say maybe this year the retirees may want to so for anything I would keep it this
year are they is there a contract how much they can contractual yeah I don't have the number but yeah it is in the contract I have the contract pulled up if you want me to look at it sir could you tell us what it is Mr D I
mean $1,000 isn't enough if everybody wanted to cash in but based on the fact that people have not done it but that they may the same princip is the police with the personal time buyback all everybody okay with the 1,000 yes yep all right flipping the page page
40 um C2 uh DPW other expenditure C2 licensed operator 3500 requested 3500 uh recommended that's to pay our C2 guide and run the services correct
that's a contractual number yes everybody okay with that yes uh office supplies DPW 900 requested 900 recommended I'm good with that there been some close to that whole Ball
Park everybody good with that news meetings and conferences 1,200 requested 1,200 recommended uh it's for two employees to attend the leag conference how many attended last year Mr La only
one sir Mr Casey here I had an issue I was dealing with so if we double that then that would cover both of them correct Mr Dall I mean in principle yeah yes I should say everybody okay Mak it it a
thousand Jerry how many nights did you stay um two two is there any other associations or anything that you belong to everybody okay cutting 200 I'm good yes yeah cut it I'll second
that 200 call cman CIO yes cman seers yes councilman Omen yes Council uh Council valz yes council president to sener yes moving on down DBW radio expense $3,000 requested 3,000 recommended two garbage
trucks need radios actually more than that however if you can see we are Wai on back order the prices on radios went from 900 approximately 900 to 1420 um over the past year which is even
can say it says right here and again as the moment we are waiting for that radio unfortunately they're always on back order and we don't like to put everything all at once we prefer you know spread it out get one done then get another so do we have another one that's
supposed to come for 2024 that we don't have yet yes so we're getting three new radios it's possibly yes I'm sorry we actually could actually use another radio we have a two the smaller trucks and two of the garbage
trucks both need radio but we were working on previous numbers so with the 3,000 you're getting two plus one on back order right and you're right the price of
radios have G up I'm okay with that I'm good yeah do you have um does anyone have personal radios or everything is in the truck no we have portable you have Portables does is there a need for Portables
yes um our our radios do not always in every vehicle receive say the police during the storm if we're on the far side of town I personally have to carry portable and the line in because the radio does not always receive the signal so I I was under the
impression at one point that the DPW was part of [Music] the uh infrastructure right that the police and the fire topography perhaps when run other
side of town with more Hills when we go over by you Kennedy you usually can't get it so the solution I mean is buying I understand the need to have
radios but should the solution be to buy better radios or should we be on a different infrastructure I mean I have to defer to the department on that I really could not tell you that to be honest with you I don't know much about the radios I know we are on the
same frequency band but as far as reception that's another matter I don't I thought the reason we spent 3/4 of a million dollars was to eliminate all the dead spots in town well it should I mean we had
some I guess more well-known ones behind Iha and you know we're hearing others uh and I agree so the I guess my question is you know we can spend $1,400 on a radio but if they don't work they don't
work they they don't work or what's the cost of a radio to to work well I'm sorry um this question may sound a little ignorant are you guys on the county radio system or they didn't have
enough channels right if I remember correctly to give you guys your own Chanel just the police were on with that's it we used to be able to hear the fire department when they want you know fire call and we can't hear them anymore yeah so you guys are on a different right system I think they're on our old
band the old you guys ever moved to uh the county 700 band yeah because the county would not give us enough channels to support what we needed uh they were very stingy with them I'm not a radio person so I don't know why but I remember when we went through it why
wouldn't we if they they didn't open enough enough bandwidths and I think that's what they're they were planning to the intention of that whole upgrade for the radios was so they could be involved if you needed traffic cones and all well they would have to ride on the fire department Channel
again why would they were looking for their own channel I know but right now they're they're left out of an emergency if they need like well not necessarily I mean it depends on what part of right you know and majority of the time
they call us on our cell phones anyway but that's not right no I know but so who who's responsible for the sort of the radio or the communication architecture who leads that in town the
police when we the project we had a consultant come in yeah who managed it because we wouldn't be expected to have that level of expert in house when we redid the whole system and again I just remember we tried but the County's like
no we we can only give you X number of channels you know even if we were willing to pay more they're like no we only have a certain amount among the whole County and this is what we can do for you maybe we can relook into the county coordinator yeah I mean things change so
okay gpw training 1350 requested 1350 recommended good did we not do any training last year with very last year very little this year they've already uh for the employees have enrolled in classes three are going this week
actually one went uh last month for a field course okay everybody okay with that yes yes uh DPW sign expense 9,000 requested 9,000 recommended 5,000 for stop sign
project Police Department initiative the 5,000 requested increase is expect is expected for 2025 can you explain that this is all uh hinges upon the uh Council making ordinance to replace a stop sign through
the r none it's $150 a sign and the number I have heard but not officially is significantly more than we're asking for actually I would also there are addition to that there are none or they are not there are
n is there a list what they're requesting yes there is somewhere if I can interrupt sir um those of you that were on the previous Council you might remember council president Des Morgan kind of started this initiative with asking questions about the inter sections that were not controlled by a
stop sign so it's taken us a while but about a month or month and a half ago Lieutenant Glock from the police department uh provided a whole document with recommendations to Miss Bailey to prepare ordinance recommendations for the council and based on all those
intersections that were uncontrolled by stop signs if Council elected to engage in an ordinance to control those it would require spending about $5,000 on those signs okay but wouldn't it be smart to let us know before we got to the budget so we
understand what the budget is I don't know what you mean by that I mean if never mind we got the letter in November we just got it yeah I know I um I'm okay with it stop signs are I I agree with Mrs Morgan's initiative I
know we had the initiative last time to replace the old stop signs that had no reflectivity on them we got that far so now to get rid of the UN the controlled intersections a big will they have the flashing lights with that solar component not 150 DPW Uniform Rental 6500 requested
6500 recommended is that okay with everybody I'm good uniforms and safety equipment 8,000 requested 8,000 recommended boots is 3150 requesting ring GE every few years we need to resupply
our ring gear um a set currently as of last year was running approximately $300 a set if not everyone needs ring gear it would also be advantageous to have a few sets on hand for seasonal workers so
they're not just getting wet in the back of the truck somewhere you know we have some older not quite in good shape jackets for the seasonal to wear but they're really really old okay
so I I think that you know if you're going to sit on the back of a garbage truck and drive around town to pick up our lawn debris in the summer or in the fall doing leaves in
the rain you know the town should be providing a level of protection yeah yeah so you know is is 8,000 enough for what you are asking for I was
guesstimating 10 sets not all full-time workers need rain gear at the moment so there will be extra left over to get some Marine gear for the season okay I
mean again I think it's uh you know it's uniform and safety equipment and it's for their safety right and it has reflective so you know if that's if 8,000 is enough then it's enough but if it's
not you know I'd like or I think the council would like to hear that itself what I figured out last year yes should be enough okay thank you thank you oxygen and fire extinguishers 2,000 requested 2,000 recommended everybody okay with
that yeah I come move Sol low last year Mr I don't think uh some of what would come this comes out of is the settl and oxygen and the tips for the Torches and I don't believe we did much of that last
year it's also the uh fire signature inspections but that's always done that's in the works for this week if it happens okay DPW facility maintenance and repairs 40,000 requested 40,000
recommended what do we do we really need this now that we're going to start our new building this is actually for this building cool yeah it's under DPW because they do it but it's for this facility oh okay you add another 10,000
fix the heat no breason you want to see it at this end everybody okay with that can we can we put a note in there Mr Dar Carlo that it's for the admin building
sure DPW janitorial supply 7500 requested 7500 recommended we only spent 5,000 last year can we lower this can we take 200 off I was talking 2,000 we only spent 5,000 last year that's cleaning supplies and
anything else that and that's for this building also that's for this building and the fields police oh and the police too yeah I'm just going by their run r with the expense it's not the fields though is it do you clean don't we Outsource that we Outsource that however
we do supplement some of their supplies with our own because they are not they're pretty reasonable with their pricing so so they're not buying all supplies that they need so we we also supplement some of that bill do you know why we spent about
$1,900 less from 23 because we did reduce it $11,000 in consideration of us not using it all but if you look at 23 and 24 it's about a $1,900 difference I do not off the top of my head now how about we lower it to six anybody
okay lower it to six I'm okay with Ito I'll second your motion the 6,000 yeah a thousand more than they used last year I would look at the more previous years however I see yeah one year you
used almost 10,000 that's the year we didn't have any clean when we didn't have janitorial people so sure I'm saying I see a 7,000 as you don't 10,000 see another 7,000 well 10,000 when we didn't have j j but I'm looking at some
numbers as a whole and perhaps last year was an admiration roll call councilman CIO yes counc SE how much you 6,000 6,000 it's the only thing we reduce a control
it can we do 6500 well there's a can you do 6500 there's a motion there's a motion yes make a motion for 6500 no councilman
Alman I yes Council bz no council president and Senate yes equipment purchases 8,000 requested 8,000 recommended any
discussion we okay with it is this like small handheld type of thing this is almost everything backpack blowers weed whackers uh pools Etc almost everything this is a Cas for everything that we use um so what what do we have in place
Mr Lawler because we went over 50 almost 50% over last year on this item we actually did purchase a new lawn mower right lawn mower 36 in lawn mower oh so that's what got for 4200 so that's the
over yes and that was authorized through my office Council just so you're aware do you know what the three or the 2800 or 2900 was for just out of curiosity York
Motors York is that all it says Mr uh quote 8908 uh page 158 in the detail [Applause] and
what oh it was um 2085 and then there was a document fee of $20 we bought it in well we paid for it in January something must have come in must
have you don't remember what it was not without seeing more information it just says your oh might have been the trail did you guys get a trail last year last
year can I ask what uh what Lawns you maintain we have five Fields you maintain all yeah we have the ball fields included right we have this
complex we have the library we have the walkway between Woodfield and Cleveland Mari Park Martini Park linoln Park Lincoln Park to extent so do you run crew like a landscaping crew all all
all five days a week five days a week okay okay uh DPW miscellaneous 4,000 requested 4,000 recommend everybody okay with that uh yes M drainage repairs 15,000 requested 15,000
recommended everybody okay with thatu yeah the actual for 2024 was 8712 it's on the top of page 42 unfortunately we had to cut off I guess will any of the work related to
the mus Brook yes because I see that there's like a there's a $5,000 charge for cleaning and I guess television or I guess they're scoping
the storm drains Montana Construction they did do a GPS uh mapping of dor dra is that for Memorial Field that was for the Old Town actually which we had never had before
very I'm sure it is what did they do I'm sorry they GPS all the lines and types of the cat Bas and inlets and outlets and how a piping Rand which we never had before wasn't that the video Memorial Field Memorial Field we found all the
blockages didn't we also do that by Sher did the whole town down at Bergen with it floods back there we wanted to find out where that pipe went that's a yeah was a camera R yes yeah so I guess my apologies I'm just trying to
figure this out so you're ask we're asking for 15 last year we spent eight and of that eight 5,000 was for a one-time expense yeah that that was definitely Memorial Field but again
this is another one of those lines if God forbid we need it for something serious 15,000 isn't going to be in you're lucky to get a low year but if you look at the previous years it's yeah we did
yeah I'm good with it you entertaining anything Mr Al no based on the [Applause] history gbw the history goes from 9 to 14 to 16 to 15 to 8 so you look at it
it's if you if you average it out it's about 13 so take a th000 out you want to take a th000 out make a motion I'll make a motion to take a th000 out of to make it 14,000 CU again that that one line was the major the last year the major was
the uh mapping so I'll second It Roll what we do um 15 14 roll call councilman Casio yes councilman Sears yes Council Omen yes Council vales
yes council president Des yes DPW other equipment rental 5,000 requested 5,000 recommended possible rental of backo during Leaf season so I know we talked about this before when we had two vehicles down during Leaf season last year or two piece why didn't we rent two piece of equipment no we didn't rent
nothing no I said why didn't we we had enough vehicles on our road but we said we were down to two pieces ofar trucks so we had three crews out we have three pieces of equipment to assist with the collection so why didn't we rent other pieces of equipment to to we had
actually at that moment uh borrowed one from another town okay for a little while um it's not always available but it was for a short time last year so we had that and that was used in the yard because the leaf back has to be dumped in the yard it
cannot go over the road and then we have have to load a vehicle with that so so we put it into a container truck we another oh another Garb so we borrowed somebody else's garbage no no the ones that are on the road they come in and we fill up what's in the yard and then
they'll go out and continue collection okay I'm can can you repeat so the vacuum fills up it then is transferred from the
vacuum truck by some type of front Rader and put into the garbage trucks which then haul it out yeah so we used to dump it down at Sher yes so I mean we should probably keep it
but question I have is do we really need to like re-evaluate it's more than just a back however uh one year last year we were relatively lucky with what we needed one we spent anything we spent $25 so I don't know what weent $25 one year we
needed a mini excavator that would come out of that line yeah hav't needed it another year we rented a uh stump grinder uh last year we did not rent anything but again with the rental pricing 5,000 getes you only about two weeks or so possibly three weeks per
piece of equipment we okay with it ladies and gentlemen yes yes tree removal Town property 45,000 requested 45,000 recommended how many more trees can we cut down Mr SE we got left this item keeps keeps going up as
many storms as we have to keep taking them down I know sorry to say the we reached the age of our trees yeah everybody okay with it yes so do we
does this go out to bid this work we are preparing a bid um document for tree removal because if you remember towards the end of December we aggregately went over the bid threshold of 44,000 so that's going to require us to
go out to bid this year so it's not a calendar year of 12 months it's a continuous 12 months that you have to evaluate the a the aggregate amount that we're spending so the answer your question is yes we're going to go out the bid I spoke to our qpa this morning
who's preparing it we going out by diameter of the tree size I don't know I think she was able to get a working document from a neighboring town to assist through the process so I haven't seen it seen one yet so I I was interested myself how how
the pricing goes but did did we approve Carriage Court yes yeah we did okay DPW hardware and paint 2250 requested 2250 recommended I to knock down the oh sorry
I didn't you you didn't say going back to tree uh a motion knock it down $1,000 to 44 a second roll councilman Casio yes councilman seers uh I'm going to have to say
no councilman Alman yes councilman bz yes and counc president to s yes DPW hardware and paint 2250 requested 2250 recommended um do we ever do we ever even come close
to using all this yes what we do frequently is we will get I don't I want I don't want to call him a kit but a box of VAR Fasteners cter pins screws bolts nuts bolts and
that lasts us for a time to be determined on what we need to use and then we have to replenish our supplies so I guess did we buy that two years ago yes we did now was some lawon I
believe everybody okay with this does that include the paint for the road no no no this is for say this building or the police station or that kind of you know house paint where where would the uh paint for
the like the crosswalk in no that's field that's that's different line that's okay everybody okay with the 2250 yes yeah I'm okay with it uh DPW Road repairs 4,000 requested 4,000
recommended I think we should cut it we just I mean we just would you like to make an phone we had all the uh County Roads done uh this is Prim for the back
streets yeah we we never pay for County Roads we no if we can avoid working on County Roads unless it's a hazard to the public we try not to so this all this patch would have been used on residential or non County second or
tertiary yes or in in a case in some cases the uh entes to some of the fields are asphalt so we'll use it for that 500 you want take about 500 we haven't spent anything
over 25 does this typically go up in a like a winter we just had where you have snow seasons and ice and from uh potholes four more with winter we just had today than previous few Winters because you know depends on moisture and
freezing thank you Mr Sears has made a motion for minus 500 anybody second it I'll second roll councilman Casio yes councilman Sears yes councilman Omen yes Council blz yes council
president to yes tpw Sal Ry this is a new item it was never funded before the Last 5 Years uh 20,000 requested 20,000 recommended I'm I'm good with it I mean you guys put a lot down this year you
know and it did help it did help where was this coming out of before Mr Cara the snow trust and what page is the snow Trust on do we have well you have a uh audit Trail 2024 trust 2024 trust thank
you so I can tell you that the opening balance January 1st was 14,000 you know what page it is I'm just flipping this isn't in there that's why I was respectfully reading it out to the council I printed out of detail just anticipating this being part
of discussion that's not it so you're going to see what was spent in 2024 however I think most of well a gist of our expenses so far in 2025 coming out of here we opened a balance of 14,3
39 we're able to to put 15,000 in it from reserve and we're down to um a balance of $20,000 already and that includes all you know our incoming it's I don't believe it's in
here no it's in the trust are you in the I'm in the trust information I'm reading is not in your paperwork I printed out a detail anticipation of this conversation tonight this is just
25 expensive what you have in your book is just 24 expenses so basically nothing spent out of the snow trust probably between what April and maybe November and then in November we start spending and getting the plows ready and the right there are
some repairs we tried to do during the course of the year but if I can I'll try and find it for you on the uh it's probably towards the bottom Reserve s 17 yeah start 15 starts on 15 I'm going
backwards so each storm is about $4,000 for soul that in preparation of about $4,000 and if you want Count Bri is about $1,000 per
event Mr corkman is this is this fund balance unexpended of 26,000 mean that's what's left in that account where do you see that Mr uh on page uh 15 you're on page 17 15 I'm on
page 15 it says unexpended 26,1 12867 um think you I really I you should look at is is the 45,000 starting point and if look at PID 17 the had balance of 177,000
so that's that's a decrease of 28,000 which I think will justify putting 20,000 in budget yeah but where did you get the 23,000 to make the 1124 correct balance and when you added 23,35 John I understand what his question is councelor president if you look at
balance year-to date use 17,682 that means we actually paid that amount unexpended is 26,120 if you go over three columns you're going to see incumbered year to date of 8400 that
8,400 is included in that 26,000 so it just means we had we have $8,400 in bills that we've encumbered but we haven't paid yet so the true balance from the 26 26 yes so the balance is really
17 but wait what on January 1st we had a correct balance uh made by Mr corkman that added 23,000 to this line and made it 68,000 where' that 23 come from I believe that was adjust I had
make to to tie the AFS in terms of but in terms of in terms of the activity what Mark said is is correct in terms of you know the balance of 17,000 and you have the 26 to it that's where you get
st5000 so just going by the beginning balance and the ending balance basically regardless to whether there's journal entes in here tells you that it went down almost 30,000 from the beginning because apparently when when we do get reimbursements from the county
it doesn't it doesn't cover a lot of the didn't go down 30,000 it went down it went down 50,000 that's what I'm concerned with you started at 45 then you made it you you you added 23,000 to the to the line and brought it to 68 and then you
ended with 17 so that's 51,000 difference not 30 and that's what I'm questioning is where where did this adjustment come in of the 23 in January 1st 2024 John is that the amount we brought in from
Reserve I believe it was that's which is why I did that journal entry I I had the time that's one of the entries I had to make uh as at the beginning of uh 24 that that's what a 23,000 is that's what that the way we increase um
reserves I'm sorry trust funds a way that we increase the trust funds is during the transition from Reserve to fund balance it's a journal entry or an accounting measurement that
um we can introduce money so rather so at the end of The Reserve year the following day in January 1st instead of it going into you know Capital I'm sorry and going into fund balance or Surplus we take a certain amount out and that's how we um increase
the balances of our trusts really that's only the only ones we do that to is for the snow trust and the accumulated leave trust and it has to be taken from um the balance of a similar control account
right so this amount of money was brought from Le over reserves that was from the DPW lines like I couldn't use police lines or um Council lines it has to be Associated closely associated to
the trust fund you're going to reimburse not reimburse that you're going to you're going to add to so that's why I'm saying because of the amount of usage that we're spending out of this that's why I'm now asking for like winter watch to supplement with
a couple thousand dollars now for the first time in years we have to um you know add funding to a line called salt and brine that you can see we spend you know we're spending a lot of money out of here a lot of repairs right bill I mean
there's a ton of repairs of vehicles there's some uh this year I'm trying to do you recall we had the ice storm um where the temperature dropped to zero or negative zero and we do have
uh four or five trucks or so set up with a a calcium spray system which will keep the salt active until -6 degrees however there were fitting one out of plastic and over
time they get grow bit brittle and crack and they were not available to US during that that storm this year which if it had been the salt would have been working at down tog -6 as as opposed to slowly stopping
working at 20 degrees and as it gets colder and those have I would like to replace or repair I should matter of fact one is down right now to uh get a quote on caring the lines and some of those pittings that are C and
leaking and whatnot Mr De Carlo I could just y ask the the balance as of this report was 17 that's
further is that what you were alluding to so the balance as of 12025 was 17,682 the balance on January 1st was
14,33 but you know we had received a couple of reimbursements doing my last quarter um review you know I reallocated some POS that were you know should have gone that were corrected um so know we introduced $6,000 back in on January
14th so there was a couple of debits in credits between that January 1st and January 20th but you're right on January 20th the balance was 177,000 as of today the balance is and I can provide this to council just so you
see what we spend it on just in the first not even full three months but as of today the balance was 2,178 42 and that's because we just received a reimbursement from the county for
$3,795 so is 20,000 plus the sorry what do I think it's gonna be enough yeah what's that it's 20,000 plus
plus 20,000 I mean basically yeah about $40,000 so again I I believe it is um every Sal order seem to be about four grand and every brine is about a th looking at what we spent every sold
order that we have the order runs anywhere at 75,000 tons if you're going for 100 tons you're going be getting close to 8,000 you're getting 50 tons and you're on 4,000 well it looks like you've been you know so we we got you got all 50 tons then because they're all
4,000 yeah because the county gives them and the was and the bran was 542 each time no Brian is about 900 we buy your bills what's what's calcium is calcium the brine no no calcium's Calum we have
two tanks that hold approximately 1,200 gallons and per event it's about 900 for both BS bill could those lower bills be because you topped it off maybe because you weren't completely at the bottom there were one or two where we did not have to
yeah we were able to top off or there were some events that we only have one vehicle available at the time there were also a couple events where we focused more on the county road the main road the hills and higher traffic road so on
February 18th we spent 3,800 on so on February then we spent another 5900 in Sal and then and we spend another 3,900 on March 3rd and so I mean that you know
we're up at $1,000 $122,000 right there we SP that and that's not for Brian either or the calcium well if you look at how the storms hit in February 3 four days we were slly low on SOL yeah so we
had to had no choice to purchase our own all right any other discussion on this item anybody want to make a motion or anything we good I'll take it down I'd like to take down $4,000 to 16 16
25 25 second R coun Casio yes councilman Sears oh no councilman omen say
yes Council no the weather's too unpredictable no council president the sener yes DPW sewer expenses 10,000 requested 10,000 recomend do we have any known SE expenses that we have
outstanding uh primarily it's the camera runs at the moment luckily we have not had to open roads or anything like that as of as lately um it's primary the cam run for inspections we have a shared vehicle with other town so we use that
for uh doing our maintenance on the lines of so that's primarily what this is about however if something happens we have to open road that might be an issue
okay any motion good good this infrastructure is getting old so you know it's something's GNA happen it's prob good yes okay uh there's nothing left on that
page we got we got DBW street sweeping is done already but recycling is done uh DBW maintenance and repairs on page 44 7,000 requested 7,000 recommended h3ac maintenance
repairs building I'm good with it no but it's for this building I just want to make sure yes no I don't want somebody say why how we doing maintenance and repairs on a building that doesn't exist we had a note that it's for this building Mr Nara yeah DPW equipment Storage Rental
$2,464 requested 32 , 464 recommended you know what this is for is this for the church you want yeah yeah um so to answer your question yes this is a contractual amount that
ends this year however uh with the recent approval of the bond ordinance thank you for the DPW building we have to prepare for this site to not be available and we're going to have to have an additional site so what we'd
like to ask of the council even though it's an increase um we believe we're going to start digging ground sometime in July or August I'd like to just ask for $5,000 a month not additional to this
but to just break it down oggc is $2,700 a month for 6 months I'd ask for an additional 2,300 so whatever 2300 is times 6 so 12,8 13,800
13,800 we believe we should be able to um satisfy our needs with moving the DPW operations to a reasonable spot uh with with that additional $2,300 a month that's included in the 3200 you asking
good no so why can't we make this part of the contract that the contractor pays this monthly fee what the contractor is going to pay the rent for the for the monthly spot make it part of the construction to
pay to store bar equipment somewhere else yeah be a line item we tell them every month you you're going to get a bill from the owner where we're storing the equipment but aren't they just going to bill it back to us yeah but at least it's not going into the budget and inflating that line for artificial
reasons and then next year we're you know oh are you saying take it out of the capital then yes oh okay pres make it Off the Wall what's that why don't we temporarily put them down in Cherry field as a temporary basis and save this
money I don't know why we're not doing that but so far we're putting leaves there now we're going to put equipment and operations there it's temporarily it's not permanent where the baseball games go in the parking softball gam baseball games and that's well they're not where the trucks are going to be are
they do you see how much parking for the people we fence fence that off temporary I mean it'll be tight yeah but where we where are we moving where where are we renting space quality we know how do you want to handle that
question sir um it's in negotiation right now so I'm not comfortable talking about it in public we're very close I'm okay with putting that number I'm okay leaving it in capital and putting it toward the building cost because it is part of the cost of the building Mr Roman do you
have a uh any consideration with utilizing Capital expense for rental because you did when it was we were charging that line for olgc so I just wanted to make sure that was going to be okay with Council because I don't know if that's an appropriate expense for a
capital line like if you're building a new building and you rent the trailer right like you you rent the William Scotsman and you're building a new uh administration building right that goes to the capital cost of that building the rental of space does not have a year
life of five years it's it's not I don't but it has to do but it has to do with that project I you know Mr do you have any recommendation Well normally to be to be put in capital has to have a life expectancy of five years or more uh I
understand you're saying it's it's connected to the project but I still don't know if if because of that reason if if you should do that that's his professional advice yeah say that you said that it's a little Tri it's a little
tricky because it's connected to your project but typically when you Bond something put in capital it has a fiveyear at least a five-year you know lifespan well Mr Mr corkin in your professional life in possibly previous projects have you not rented trailers and parking spaces for those projects
and they've gone toward the project I I really recall if if if something that was part of capital I mean I I I tend to think it might have been paid out of County okay I mean I you know I'd have to look back are you asking to increase this Mr Mayor this
item are we asking to increase this by 18,600 or not yeah 13 no 18,600 what did we say I'm getting my number 13,800 sorry I said 18,000 so
45,000 correct just for this year well just for this year assc for you to date so you're making a new recommendation of 45,000 no I'm making a recommendation of 46,2
64 Mark that number again please I'm sorry sir the number again please so I'm taking 32464 and adding 13,800 to it and I came up with 46,2 64 46,00
264 so just only because the direct question was asked to me uh Mr Dar Carlo I think the rental of space for our day-to-day operations or
day-to-day storage uh and charging capital I think that is certainly not a benefit icial use uh you know we saw in the presentation uh that we had last week
that uh at least for the projected um the projected funding uh the interest the carry cost is about 50% of the principal so uh you know I don't for
day-to-day rentals I don't think it is I do understand what Mr Desa is saying that as part of the execution of the project we may need to rent space to
move the uh equipment temporarily so I think that they're I don't know if they're Apples to Apples uh and then in terms of where we can do it you know I'd be interested to
here because right now we know we can't run operations out of olgc is that olgc yes you know we can't run day-to-day operations that I believe that's part of the contract it's storage that's correct so you know I'd be
interested to know where we're looking to spend this money or where we're looking to put this uh you know if we have a number we must have an idea where it's going mayor say he's not willing to
discuss it yeah it you it literally came through fruition um last week you want to table this L yeah until location I'm still thinking Mr C still thinking about you know sherfield I
think there's ample room there to utilize and it would be NOA that's just so we have a motion on table from Mr Cassie table have a second I'll second to find out where the rentals are
going to go okay what can I just ask what if that isn't going to what if that's not possible by time budget discussions are over does it is involving negotiations and research and and yeah and also um as we all know Green Acres funding paid for Sherry
field probably running DPW operations is not a permitted use under that neither storing of equipment to my knowledge uh that I don't know about however no I wouldn't expect you to I have you I have got passor on Saturday afternoon and
talk lot I I agree so far and yeah all the activities that take place there we're talking a 12 18 month project here and it's spre four Bas yes all right for table side street
Lan [Music] Lane motion to table by Mr Casio seconded by Mr Sears roll call councilman Casio yes councilman sear yes councilman Oman yes Council bz yes
council president to sener no moving on S can you put that on then for the next agenda for a Clos session to discuss the potential we're looking at yeah wait can
I I just I'm sorry I'm not arguing but miss wowski when do we have to have the budget introduced if we're gonna put this on for April 7 going the local Finance well
better unless we do it March 31st if if so desired you still have one Monday left which we were going to ask at the end of tonight where we got how far we got well local Finance no says March 31st or the next regularly scheduled
meeting which will bring you to April 7 however in the past we have not always been there and I've had to make the phone call yeah that's what it was yeah it's April 7th oh yeah April 7 our next meeting yes yeah the next regular
meeting for Budget will be April 7th Mr de Carl so we that's that's when we have to adopt the budget yeah but we or I'm sorry introduce introduce yeah introdu s so tonight once we finish with the DPW we see how many more pages are left and what's left and make a decision whether
we meet next Monday for a couple hours and nail it down and then we introduce it the next one that yes and you want to put you would like to put that on if it's going to be the 31st you'd like to put that on a Clos session agenda then right yes that topic
yes DPW Vehicles equipment and repairs 990,000 requested 90,000 budgeted okay any discussion wait where are you page 45 DPW vehicle okay equipment and repairs 06 what about
Tires Tires Tires oh I'm sorry I missed tires uh DPW vehicle 003 tires 14,000 requested 14,000 recommended good with it everybody okay with it yes strong you're good yeah moving down
to DBW vehicle equipment and repairs 90,000 requested 90,000 recommended everybody okay with it well the way I see it in the yard yeah definitely everybody okay Mr right flipping the page is that that oh
we got DPW gas right somewhere gasoline gotta find it maybe like 57 what page 577 uh 57 uh DPW gasoline diesel 42,000 requested 42,000
recommended everybody okay with that I'm good uh while we're on the page Solid Waste bcua usage monthly fees 82,000 requested 82,000 recommended that's Contracting is that contractual Mr no
it's um page yeah yes that's a guesstimate based on our previous year usage yes everybody okay with it right thank you gentlemen oh I'm sorry if we go back to
3156 the U what page is that page 45 uh Whit yeah we're saying last year we requested 80 80 was approved as part of
the budget we spent 83 and there are no transfers but if I look at page 182 of the detail we transferred in 30k excuse me council president of the
Senate if I may I'm sorry to interrupt you um I I I have a note here resol resolution 24362 on 12-24 we did transfer $30,000 in in this in this account so you would have to add
that to the 83,000 so exactly so we're we spent 13 yes so you might want to keep that in mind considering what you're
requesting you know if that'll be enough I mean you might want to look at that the I believe one we had a very large expense for the one garbage truck two garage trucks together the older
two probably around 0,000 38k plus that's not including basic main correct those are three bills so I mean I you
know well they requested 90 Mr me I'm okay with 90 you you want to I just think we should be cognizant oh absolutely no I appreciate you bringing that to our attention because the the running total is is not is not correct I agree with you council
president before you Rel the DPW if you could just consider um having them present for any discussion on the capital there's very uh large expenses they requesting and then if you got if Council may have questions pertaining to
the DPW safety or I'm sorry DPW um salary line just with their safety incentive steps or anything sure let's flip to Capital really quick ladies and gentlemen thank you so I have um under DPW two garbage
trucks they replaced to 2006 2009 a front loader replac for 2007 an F350 crew cab pickup with flow and Salter to replac in 2007 um believe that's all right
oh has to be more come on Dr um only other thing they have under Building and park improvements is things at uh Memorial and Cherry
85,000 okay let's start out with the uh two new garbage truck well you have the two new garbage trucks at 300,000 each but Mr D said what are we three to four years Out Mr laer before we get today actually looking some of up and yeah 3
to four weight your weight at the moment uh unfortunately there's a state mandate which luckily was put off for a year that for every 10 diesel vehicles sold they have to sell electric so luckily that was put off till January 27 now so
we can get in there for that we hopefully will not be stuck in que waiting online for an electric truck to be sold before they can sell diesel drugs I don't think we'll have to worry about that no Bas I think Mr Trump will
take care yeah but I appreciate you bringing it up something to think about so Mr deala it was brought up by the bond Council that we don't need to bond for those two trucks we just need to make a decision to order those trucks right
close close we'd have to have a bond ordinance which which authorizes the appropriation but we don't have to borrow the money until we right so you'd have to authorize the capital exens so we wouldn't be getting these trucks till 2029 right now more than likely not
and is years 28 29 yeah if I we could get a truck tomorrow I have gotten emails about trucks that are unlocked that uh without actually seeing them what we are looking to but
again that's but when we want to match what we have pardon would we want to get the same trucks we have we're not entirely sure just yet because we got away from one company because there was an issue with uh radiators and such we tried a different
company which at the time was based in hackin so if there recall you can bring it there to have that thing here they s moved to lynon when you know imly right after we bought two truck and so we're actually
in a process of talking with various different vendors in the area Richfield has one so to speak again uh where we were buying our trucks down in Lindhurst that's another one so we're not entirely sure what
vehicle depending on some factors U that we're looking at getting but we are looking at a round number with this what they're going to be Bill do you know do we purchase these under State contract yes yes yes
do you have any insight as to what the lead why the lead time is two years or three years well just in general before there were issues it was still about a year and a half so it hasn't increased that much but you have
to look at pricing increases and supply issues all look at now so even in a perfect world 10 five years ago 10 years ago
whatever it would order to delivery was 18 months 12 to 18 months give for 18 months right 18 month and now that's just extended out even more right all right then you had the front loader replaced to
2007 um Mr CL can we look at the 1033 program to replace that loader we haven't had much luck with that 1033 program that the military is trying to get rid of they don't want and anything that is
of that is in good shape the do has for fre that makes sense they're not going to be around either so what's that so they're not going to be around either so it may open up for us excuse me just I'm making the right
notes in my book um are you proove these items yeah that's what I was going to ask you you moving ahead with the garbage truck are you okay with the garbage truck ler I'm good with garage Mr Casio Mr Le said yes Mr SE said yes Mr
CCO is contemplated so we don't have to we don't have to fund it now or we have to put the have to do a bond you have to do the 5% yes sir and you'll have to do you know eventually when we do our Capital ordinance or our bond ordinance but it'll stay unfunded
for while yeah it'll stay on F I think for this week for any Capital we'll need four votes right not the usual three for the bond yeah for the bond well they go hand in hand I hope no one would vote Yes on this and then no on the bond
U voting on two right so you nowhere for two I'm know for two I be for one you're okay for one I'm okay mrman even with those lead times and I would say we're just going to throw money into more and more into repairs
all right if we go and wait for one TR order another druck and then there'll be another one and I'm sure the price will go higher it will just be an endless CLE yeah and then leave season well do do how many towns pick up leaves with the garbage trucks around
town all the surrounding town that really beat that beats the crap out of Drive the problem with the now is driving to dump the trucks that's the time Factor that's the time and it's beating the crap out of the truck a roll off be better for that purpose a rollof be better for that
purpose no because you can't compact these the garbage trucks compact them so you get more but it does beat the crap out of the Hydraulics that's so you got to you got to trade off like roll be longer life obviously right but you don't get as much in it so there's going to be
more time consuming season can you guys estimate is it like a two to one ratio uh garbage trock versus rollof say get a 32 y right yeah depends on the size of the Box you have to roll off 30
yard again like Casey said it's not compacted right yeah but what's the max K what's the max how many yards is a garbage TR 32 we're running 32 yeah so if you had a 40 yard container it' be yeah but you can't compact it yes 32 compacted as opposed to 40
uncompacted how the feathersound it's always a p but Mr Lawler was this a problem every year or just because this past year the leaves came down at such the leaves came down very early last year past year um
believe it or not we did finish a approximately the same time as every other year first two three weeks of this season all were pretty rough we were behind you know Mr almond what do you say yes two trucks or no
um I would say yes I mean at the moment yes I'll say yes front loader replacement 250,000 replac in 2007 that we do did dep break down a lot last year or is it
running okay yeah at the moment it needs about $111,000 work which we've held off on it's running it's what's the lead time on that uh in the past that's been about a year so I don't
know be better off to be proactive and try to get replacement earlier before April break down and then we have he got some money for trading yeah do you have this schedule of your vehicles believe it or not I gave it to
him this morning just his coffee it looks like it's a good old I'm just trying to the loaders so like t22
right it's saying its life expectancy is 20 30 a rule of thumb had always been to expect uh hopefully 20 years out of a large piece of equipment that's since gone down to more like 15 years 22 was not the Lo we wanted to place though we
wanted Place 12 right 2007 which is now 20 years old and is a very good machine however things are slowly starting to go on it and there's no heat the venting system go this $1,000 F we have a qu L
year but we didn't want to put in for and just out of curiosity the reduction in uh life expectancy does it have anything to do with these being exposed to the elements
no no no this is just something i' I've been reading up on life expect of heavy heavy duty Vehicles how I guess maybe way it's constructed these days I suppose it was 1990 I don't know or people be more proactive like I
was saying they're trying to replace things before BEC an emergency issue issue and you basically run a loader with each sanitation truck during Leaf season this one actually is the one I
drive 2007 it's very cold see when I drove past it I thought it had like a little refrigerator under Dairy Queen hanging out the back Kegerator uh you okay with this Mr
alond uh yeah I think it's so we've always asked or not we collectively I've always asked uh if we could have a perspective View and I think this is like the reality of it um
so Mr yes Mr Sears yes Mr CIO F350 crew cab pick up with plow and Salter to replaced to 2007 M yes yes Mr s that's one that's rotten
on the back yeah yes the landscape truck through cab so a whole four Five Guys whole Landscaping as opposed to using multiple vehicles to get around these are very old Vehicles yes I are is is there um does that include the
plow and the Suter the full prices of plow yes the cab the the P truck itself is in the 70s I don't have the exact numbers with me I'm sorry I should have but the total was around $997,000 for plow I think I have it if
you so is is there a Next Step Up in durability that you know incrementally the cost like for another $10,000 or $20,000 is there
something above the 350 or is that sort of like no that turn into a different model the 450s are a different model than 350s 350s are the largest pick of truck you can get at the moment um they're not Reas everything else no but
for the larg RO they get the moment you go larger then you go into the Mason dump territory and that's not that's not that's not conducive to like I said the majority of the year it's for landscaping pulling a landscaping
Trail and to fit Five Guys in so they're going up the memorial they take four or five guys put the r in it and you're using one vehicle with the trailer and and assuming that the one you're replacing goes back back to 2007 it's almost 20 years old if you break
down the 100,000 you're talking 5,000 a year assuming you get the same life expect inity Mr Alman you okay with this yes Mr Cas okay with it last item is uh
building or Park Improvement new fencing back stops at Memorial Field and sharing field and clarkfield $85,000 estimate is this say we did that two7 no the other one doesn't the other one for another year 26 sorry
27 so you have 85,000 Mr Waller is that an estimate from a vendor uh yes it is we added approximately 20% onto it to account for any kind of increase this came in last fall okay uh the Clark
Field and Memorial Field are basically really they're going to try to save the piping everything that they can save and replace the P the fence panels themselves Sherry however the fence is very old and we figed just do that and
they're also going to focus on the inner fence the four foot fence if you notice it MTI and again they're going to try to save what they can and put new fencing on it and if they have to replace some of the you have a concy
in when will this be done well if it's approved that it can be ordered almost immediately A P was it I'm sorry to interrupt everyone was it are they a State Contractor or Coop this company I used was not so we might have
to go out to bid just based on it won't happen for this beginning F that just because the season started and the kids are out there yeah it's not going to happen now it happen in the in the fall probably it also probably will
for the most part backtop yes but uh Sherry probably would not affect much of play no because they' be doing it during the day yeah but the back stops you can't do the back might you okay with this
Mr yes Mr Sears yes Mr CIO fine Mr ran no I'd like to push it off unless this a it is a safety issue I I'm a little biased on it I was going to abstain from the vote because it is it is it does go to my organization the
most um but it is a safety issue the fenes have been in poor shape for years we've had Mr laer have people his people out there we've had our people out there and they're just they're all curled up and they're cutting ankles right now and it's it is an issue that needs to be
addressed and that's why Mr Lawler and Mr scary have made an issue to get it replaced in the last two years yeah there's hanging pieces of pipe up there you know that are just you know it's it's something that needs to be addressed but if I abstain I go with the
majority Mr M that's ACC to what Mr P always said I will abstain so does pass right Mr he's not here Mr par but think thank you gentlemen appreciate would you be amendable about
talking about the road even enough what's that Mr Mr what you say oh did you want to just talk about the road program why they're here in case you have any questions no we we just wanted the list so you it's Fern carriage s right what we're doing yeah
yeah we're okay with that all right everybody's okay with those streets that that considered approved yes yes thank you gentlemen thank you thank you thank you guys are we are we five votes on that on the roads uh Mr you
okay with the roads we five VES that's what m ask it is four four I'm sorry four well you're yes M yes Mr Cass you yes M you yes on the
887 yes and I'm a yes um I'd like to make a motion that we meet for a final time next Monday and finish all the salaries and wages sove she that one question oh where what page is that
patiently you're right I'm sorry thank you do page that is on no um it is 47 bottom page 47 at the bottom okay Health Advisory Board page
47 uh 3,000 requested 3,000 recommended it is for the health Advisory Board speakers black poster contest Implement physical mental health initiatives 3,000 requested 3,000 recommended it was my mistake when I put contest I should have put project just
for whatever it's worth it's not a contest it's black coaster program or project my apolog so M you said you were going to get us more information on this from your last meeting yes um should I speak to um well I I'd like
to start off um because uh m Mrs beckme wanted to come but unfortunately she had a family issue this afternoon that prevented her from coming okay um but uh she's looking for this funding to support the uh black poster project uh which is about
1,500 um sorry that's oh yeah here it is that's about $1,500 um she uh and then for the rest of the year can we do we know what the black post progam is I think uh Daisy can go into a little more detail on it
uh but before you do let me just finish um the rest of it is for speakers throughout the year to uh come to events um hopefully maybe get some of them recorded on WCTV that can be played uh for the public maybe some to attend some
senior meetings on uh mental health uh for our seniors uh and uh and like that so that's why they are looking for the 3,000 so it's for speakers to go speak to seniors and other groups correct and the black poster program which Miss VZ
will correct yes so the black poster project um the organization is and I'm just going to read my notes um the organization is focuses on addiction and overdose awareness throughout New Jersey
and what the black poster project is is they are actual Black posters of people of all ages and professions and and whatnot that have overdosed um so pictures of them so it's a picture and
their story and then it is laid out it's a somber they they call it a silent Memorial so it's a presentation um and this organization brings these posters to raise awareness um to the
communities but are we going to like Westwood Regional School District where yeah so the the board is still working and speaking with Mrs beckme the board is still working on finding a location but in order to have this
presentation it is a $1,500 cost so I mean I've never attended one but you know based on you know this is again only my second meeting um it has brought great awareness to all different
types of people that have suffered under addiction and have overd all like the Senior Center I don't know if that's big enough truth that's I'm saying aori it would need to be a large location which
is one of the reasons that Mrs beckme hasn't um finalized it just because of the size and the budget you know we want we wanted to wait as a board to to make sure the funds were available okay um
yeah and I mean this is U Mrs I'm sorry I can't call your last name she's on the board as well the the short that's right thank you if you I don't know if everybody okay Mrs D comes up and talk to us you can come up you can come upor
all right um yes I've attended the black just you name for me Andrea dor I've attended the black poster project in Loi not that long ago and it really was a community effort a lot of police officers there people in the community
and it really brings home was it held like at high school or where was it held I'm trying to think if it was maybe they have different club or they' had different I think I'm trying to remember where I went there it could have been like an El Club thing or something or or no it could have even been attached to
one of the school like a Catholic school had an auditorium they used it's like a really a gym size um and it really is it's really a good time for the community to come together and for people to see that these are not just
faceless nameless people these are real people that have passed away um and it really brings home the issue also of the families because a lot of families will come and speak about their people as
well um and sometimes they'll have speakers there they've got music playing and it really I think uh I think it's important for our community Community to come together for something like that and I think it's also important in the
budget would be money for promoting it for like if you've got signs around town I think you need to make people aware that it's coming enough time they can get it on their calendars um so I think all these events do need uh some type of
promotion so there I think part of that budget was for that so that you know people will be aware of the program programs um I've gone toward quite a few programs like this over the years either through schools or different communities
um and I think uh again making people know about it getting people out to come will be very important as well so thank you yeah and I think I think Judy and I talked about this different people again
if we have a budget we'll know how many events how many speakers thinking maybe of a panel of speakers uh to address the issue of you know mental health addiction uh all all of those issues uh
across the board as we said seniors and everyone Mr D we talked about Grant consultant to see if there's any grants for this we did we had a meeting we have or we haven't we've had several meetings with thank you our grant writer and Miss be and myself and um I think we actually
vote Grant and we were declined okay thank you motion is for 3,000 requested 3,000 recommended something this um call you could you could ask them I guess this what we discuss can I vote
because I'm on the board I don't I guess you you probably have to do the same thing and abstain or St she can't vote right well if I can't vote she obviously can't vote she she have to beus or unfortunately Tom yours is by law
with the fire oh that's right yeah hers is just by I'm just volunte yeah I'm just a volunteer you could votes on the Green Team yeah Tom you do vote on Green Team same thing sure so are you saying I Can Vote or I
can't yeah vote good don't worry about for the if they send you to El Salvador you're in trouble yes or no M 9:30 Mr Sears yes Mr Casio no Mr Alman no
Mr Mayor this is the only Advisory board that would receive funding at this point based on this budget correct um well unless I'm forgetting something there's only two advisory boards there's the rec advisory saying but they but they don't have a budget um they they don't currently no that's
correct currently are you anticipating I'll vote Yes all right we'll stop there uh motion to have a meeting next Monday to do the salaries and wages for all the employees so move second all in
favor we have the ambulance core don't we have to finish them up we just going to continue with that he said he's coming next week right but yeah he should have the he should have get done by the end of next meeting should be done
um motion to adjourn so move second all in favor I thank you good night everyone good night