the Washington Township Board of Education. This meeting is being videotaped. Anyone wishing not to be seen on television may be excused. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, Gianna, I think I'm going to go to you first for your report since we don't have any presentations. Are you ready or
you need a minute? Okay, we'll go over to Miss Giana for her report. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. I am happy to report that the class council participated in 24 in the core on Thursday, December 11th, where students in the club stayed
overnight at the high school core to collect toys for township toys. Donations were collected during home room by class council members. Students and teachers had contributions as well as members of our community. The student council also hosted a township toys bake
sale on December 11th and 12th. All the profit went to local families in need this holiday season. Thank you Miss Etor junior and senior class council adviser for making the time to discuss this with me. Interact club held the paceetters dance earlier this evening at the high
school. This dance gave special needs students a chance to be involved with fun crafts and activities followed by lots of singing and dancing. It was free admission to the students and food and snacks were provided. The Interact executive board members also participated in an in adopting a family
in need where they were given $200 each to shop for their adopted families for the holidays. On Friday, December 5th, township choir groups Corral and Belto had the incredible opportunity to spread some holiday cheer. They sang Christmas carols at Washington Lake Park on the
stage at the amphitheater during our town's annual Christmas tree lighting. Washington Township High School sports program is doing an amazing job so far this year. Gymnastics ended with a 7-2 record with 19 student athletes. They had an incredible season. Our girls
volleyball team completed the season with a final record of 18- 10 and they advanced to the South Jersey semi-finals. The boys and girls swim team remains undefeated with a standing record of 2-0 for the boys and 3-0 for the girls. All of our winter sports programs are currently underway after
concluding an amazing season of fall sports with one pretty amazing Minute Man mascot. Thank you, Mr. Murphy, Washington Township High School's athletic director for this information. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Good job, J. Okay. Um, are there any items for
discussion? >> All right, moving on to school community relations. I know Mr. Distillio had a a personal event to go to tonight. So, Mr. Gerber, were you going to give his report? >> I am. Thank you. Can everybody hear me?
>> Okay. So, yeah. So, Mr. Dillio apologizes. He can't be here tonight. He's um at his daughter's chorus concert within the district. So, he's enjoying that event. Uh first off is Sunday Funday Parent Square Post. Uh this past Sunday launched the Sunday Funday Post
on Parent Square. It's the district's attempt to streamline fundraiser communication and various blasts throughout the district. Kudos to Matt Pacina from registration for putting this together in consultation with supervisors, principles, and teachers. Our hope is to streamline the flow of
information while ensuring these events are shared in a more concise manner. Next up is performing arts programs. Washington Township is fortunate to have a robust tradition of school concerts that mark the start of the winter and holiday season. Many thanks to the
teachers, family, Mr. Klaniano, Mr. Lindset, and their team for working together to make these performance a wonderful celebration of the students hard work. The teen summit, Mr. Anderson, Mr. Distillio, and Mrs. Carolyn Noer, the county ed specialist, uh, co-f
facilitate a meeting each month with adult leaders Harvey Mills, Woodbury High School counselor and jobs for America graduate specialist, and Perry Maize, chairman of the Atlantic County Coalition for a Safe Community. The meetings are held monthly at Washington
Township High School, and one was held today. The teen summit's mission is to believe in positive change. Students from Deli, PSboro, Woodbury, Washington Township, and Kingsway joined together to create presentations on digital and emotional health, motivational balance,
and self-esteem. This collective body of students will meet in January and February to plan for the summit presentations at RCSJ in March. Our student representatives are Austin Brennan, Grace Consola, Sophia Laperty, and Shiraz Meta.
And then finally, we have our gift card lotto during the month-long government shutdown a few weeks back. There was uncertainty faced for families who had delays in SNAP benefits. Based on the input from the community and ideas from Miss Kazmple, we launched a donation
initiative to support families and community members who were in danger of losing their SNAP benefits. With the help of Washington Township Ed Foundation, community members, and an anonymous donor, we raised enough money to provide 150 of our families with $50
grocery store gift cards. Over the last three weeks, we've contacted the 150 families whose numbers were called in the lottery and have been working to get the gift cards to them prior to the holidays. That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you for that update. Motion to
approve items one and two under correspondence. Motion. I >> have a second. >> Second, >> Scott. Okay. Um, all in favor? >> All in favor? I >> Okay. Can I have a motion to approve the minutes for the month of November?
>> Motion to approve. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I items of old business. Scott, >> I have one. All right. So last meeting
we uh there was a vote to amend the minutes from August 20th, 2024. Uh basically to indicate that the motion did not carry. Um so it indicates now that it was a four
yeses and four abstensions, which is correct. I I just think we have to be very careful here making sure that the minutes reflect historically and accurately what happened. Um I went back and reviewed the video because there was of the meeting because there was some
discussion of that [clears throat] in there. The vote is for yes is for abstains. But you do hear Mr. Snyder say motion carries. I think that's what got recorded and why
the everything went forward as motion passed. I think we should amend the minutes to also include that Mr. Snyder indicated motion carries so that it's historically correct.
>> I'm sorry. Did you say you're making a motion to do that? Okay. Is there a second? I'll second it. >> Discussion. I have a question. Did were you able to clearly hear Mr. Schneider? Were you able to identify him? >> Yeah, I sent everybody. Well, I sent to Lori the video clip and it's right
around 2 hours and 5 minutes. It's in between 2 hours 5 minutes and 2 hours 6 minutes and and uh you can hear I think Lori says it was four yeses, four abstains. You can hear Ari say motion carries. Then Dr. Hip says something as well and then we move on to the next
one. So the motion is to because the motion failed because it was 44, but you just want to add to that that Ari said >> but the mo but the motion this is where just real quickly with minutes cuz we like to amend minutes here to reflect
what we want them to say. It's what happened in the meeting. That's it. We can disagree with what happened in the meeting, but the minutes capture what happened. We try to change minutes because we want to correct them, but that's just not what minutes are for.
So, we've done that a lot. But there are some times where we've added stuff like Scott just said, we've had board members asked to amend minutes to reflect things that were not captured in minutes. And in this case, you're asking to accurately reflect what happened in the
meeting, which is when Mr. Snder said it carried. So, I agree with you. I'll second that motion. Okay. >> And the reason being based upon that statement from the attorney that the motion carried, it sent it set a whole bunch of things in process, right? Set
approval of a contract. It set the contract going to the county commissioner. It set all these things in process. Without having that indicated, one would wonder, well, then why did all those things happen? Right? So, I think we're just
accurately reflecting what happened and not trying to rewrite history. >> I just I just have a question maybe for the solicitor here. Who who is responsible to call out what the what whether the motion passed or failed? Is it the
solicitor? Is it the board secretary? Is it the board president? Who whose responsibility is it? >> Providing officer. um probably the proi pres presiding officer but it in my
experience it changes depending on what board so I don't necessarily know how to answer that question accurately okay I mean I don't have a problem voting yes to this change if that's what was said and Ari said that whether Ari was correct or incorrect is remains to be
seen but Ari said it and if you want to change it we can change it >> I have I have something I >> I don't I don't I don't have a problem either because um >> I don't want to waste concern I had where it said motion carried it needed to say motion failed and when somebody
asked me a question about who said it I I I thought it was it was Dr. Hibbs and then there was some comments made about abstensions don't count move on and if I was incorrect I want to apologize to you
Dr. because it wasn't intentional to to make you look bad. I I really thought that you had said that and I'm going to bring something up in old business that might help us in the future when we when we get done this issue right now. >> I I I appreciate that. Thank you, Mrs. Baker. Um, you know, part of the concern
is, you know, when you encouraged everybody to watch the video, you know, we all did. It took me literally two seconds to see what Scott said as well. And he he doesn't just say the motion carries. He actually says the motion carries and then he also says the motion
passes. And you know and I I wasn't in executive session but I hope I hope you were provided advice on on the concept of what minutes should be. You don't you don't rewrite history through minutes. Minutes should record what actually happened and and this board of education
was provided ample evidence after that from Mr. Schneider that the vote did in fact pass. and and despite that that information being provided to the board, it was then it was very much put out to the public that I was the one that said
it passed. My exact words were, I think, abstensions don't count. Let's let's keep it moving or let's move on. But that was directly after Mr. Schneider spoke. And I just I just think we have to be really careful here about about people's reputations and and what you do and and and thank you for your apology.
Um, thank you for your apology, you know, but the motion did in fact pass. You were provided legal advice that it passed and that still happened. >> Okay. So, if we're amending it and you're saying Mr. Schneider said mchin carried and then you said abstensions
don't count, move on, then really the minutes should be amended to say all of that. So, the motion should be Scott to update the minutes to say Mr. Schneider said motion carried after the vote and then Dr. Hib said abstensions don't
count. Moving on. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> It al it also should not say that it also should not say that motion failed. You you're being provided at evidence that it did pass. So you're going back. I mean just for the >> four is not passing though. >> It it it doesn't matter. You you
received legal advice. Did you not? >> No. The the rule is five people have passed. That's That's not That's not what I said. You were pro Listen, and this is where we like to operate behind a cloud of secrecy here. >> You were provided legal advice that that
vote passed. It's not even debatable. So, you can do what you want with the >> Well, he made a mistake. >> It It doesn't matter. >> Just like Connie made a mistake. >> It doesn't matter. He gave you legal advice in the end. Listen, it's okay. You just keep it in there and just keep it in. It's just just >> that motion fails. It is what it is. Is that what you're saying?
>> No. You you've been listen you've been given everyone on this board two times has been provided. Janine, did you not send this to the board? >> There was so at the last meeting when this was brought up and we went into executive session. I asked for us to go into exe executive session because we did have legal advice from Ari a
specific email saying that the motion passed for a couple reasons. It wasn't challenged within a certain number of days. Like Scott said, things happened afterwards and the contract ended up getting approved. and I shared that email twice
um twice. >> I think I'm I'm going to say the thing that no one wants to say and I really don't even want to say it because I don't need another vendor suing us, but I think that Ari was defending himself in those emails. How many votes does it take to pass a personnel item?
>> Five votes. >> Thank you. >> Roll call, please. >> No, no, no. You don't get to do that. So, >> wait. Who doesn't get to do what? >> You don't get to do that. That's So, you can't just roll. >> I don't get to do what? So, >> this is the board's meeting and I'm asking her a question and I am allowed to do that.
>> So, here's the the antithesis of this conversation. I believe a personal item is passed by five votes and that is all I'm going to say regarding that. Thank you. >> So, a finance item can be four votes, but a personal item is five votes. Take
from that how you all want to. >> I'm going to call the question in the essence of time and do a roll call. >> Is the is the roll call that says motion fails? That's what that's what's on the minutes right now. >> Already done and no one has asked to change that. Scott's motion was to add Mr. Schneider said the motion carried.
I'm asking to add what Dr. Hib said that he said after that which is Dr. Hib said abstensions do not count. Moving on and that is and that's the only thing we're changing. >> It's been seconded. We've been in discussion and now we're voting and that is the only thing that's happening is that's being added to the minutes. So,
am I going back to the video then and saying exactly what was said? Because I believe I believe Mr. Schneider said motion carried motion passed. So, twice and then Dr. Hib said what he said. >> Whatever Whatever said in the video.
>> Yeah. Whatever's in the video. >> So, you This is your motion. >> Whatever's in the video. >> Yeah. So, I have the motion. I guess you'd have to amend the motion to say So, Eric, let me let me amend the motion now. Okay. Um the I'm going to amend the motion to have you go back review the
MIT the video and record it exactly as it was said. Right. What what Mr. Snyder said and then what Dr. Hip said. >> So he said he said 44 vote. The motion passes. >> There was I believe Lori said was four yeses, four abstensions.
>> Ari then says motion carries. >> So is abstension a no vote? Yes. >> So that was 44. >> So I'm just saying >> we're not we're not changing the thing >> just to record it exactly as it was said
in the video so it reflects exactly what was there. Right. >> You're just you're revising history is what you're doing. >> We're not revising history. >> You are totally revising history. It's exactly what you're doing >> for the record. >> Okay. So, we all received the updated
minutes from Lori today and we're only adding what Scott just put on the motion. >> Yeah. And I think maybe for the new year we should look at how we do minutes so it's not dependent on Lori catching every single word. I mean, it's videotaped. There's a transcript. Maybe
she can just double check the transcript from now on so this type of stuff doesn't happen. Like, I don't feel like it should be up. Do you know what I mean? I I I think in this day and age, you can just pull a transcript, certify that it's correct, and and keep it moving from that point because yeah,
there are there are errors. And we vote. >> I said roll call. We're about to vote. You're fine. Mr. Serrano >> Mrs. Baker.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Abstain. >> Mrs. Clancy. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Chillup. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Hartung. >> Abstain.
Mr. Li Liberty. >> Yes. >> Mr. Ross. >> Yes. >> Miss Consumpul. >> Yes. Motion carried. >> Mhm. >> Okay. Moving on. Can I get a motion to open to the public? >> Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I have old business. >> Okay.
>> We're still on old business. Okay. Um I was going to bring this up and it was good that Scott brought up what he brought up. Um, I'm not sure, but when we have the when you look on YouTube, I thought at one time you could get the transcript.
Now when I look at YouTube, I can't. It could be me. So my question is this. When our meetings go up on YouTube, is everybody able to see the transcript of the what the people are saying? Because
I'm not I'm not it's not coming up for me. have to click the bottom left and expand it. And then >> for some of them there's no transcript though. And I I don't >> they all have a transcript. >> They all should but for some of them the transcript's not there and but that's just like autogenerated through YouTube.
>> Okay. How how okay maybe that's the case because I >> that's what I just said. This is something next year we need to talk about how we're taking minutes. We're not going to solve this problem tonight but we need to have a better way of recording what happened. I mean the meeting is recorded. So, I think the best thing is to pull the transcript and
have someone double check the transcript against against that. >> And I I think the public should be able to see the transcript. >> They can see the transcript. >> Okay. All right. >> So, just a a quick uh comment and point of order. We're we're saying call to
question a lot. It does require a vote. Anyone can say call to question, but it does require a two-thirds vote. So, someone can't just say call a question and then everything stops and that's it. Call a question means it's time to roll call. That's >> no call to question under Robert's rules. You have you have to get a
twothird vote for people to agree to stop the conversation. One person can't just stop the conversation. >> If you want to look at look it up, you can. But I'm pretty sure that I'm correct. >> I'm just saying in general. >> All right. So, any other items of old business? >> That's a real thing. So, next time we
say call to question, we take a vote. A >> real thing. Okay. Um, any other items? Nope. Okay. Can I get a motion to open to the public? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. This o open public session will include um questions on item N17 under
finance, which is the um which is the resolution for the bond ordinance. Is there anyone from the public wishing to speak? Seeing none. Oh, Chrissy Kosar. Thank you. Sorry about that. Okay. I
have um a list um of five people who have been hired since uh July of this year that I would like to call into question the rate of pay that they were started on. So um because I don't want to make names public um I would like to
offer this list uh to the board um for their perusal and for their uh they can check for me to make sure that these people were started at the correct salary. Okay, this should have been done a while ago. I do apologize. That's my fault for coming in new and not picking
things up quickly enough. Um so I'm not sure who you would like me to give this list to. There's only five names on it. Thank you, Mr. Hibs. I appreciate that. I'll pass that down to you and um I'm sure we can discuss it at some point in time. Thank you very much. >> Yeah. >> Thank you.
>> Anyone else from the public? >> Seeing none. Whoops. >> Can I get a motion to close to the public? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Um motion to approve items one
through four. Um report of the superintendent. Motion >> second. >> Any discussion? Seeing none, roll call. >> Mr. Li Liberty. >> Yes. >> Mr. Ross.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Serrano. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Baker. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clancy. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Chilla. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Harton. >> Yes. Miss Kazmple. >> Yes. Motion carries. Under student
activities and communications, motion to approve items one and two. >> So move. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Roll call. >> Mr. Ross. >> Yes. >> Mr. Serrano. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Baker.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Yes. >> Miss Clancy. >> Yes. >> M. Chill. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Harton. >> Yes. Mr. Liberty, >> yes. >> Miss Gazo, >> yes.
I have a motion to approve items 1 through 32 under human resources. >> So move. >> Can I have a second? >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Connie? >> Yeah, I have a a question. Uh just procedurally,
>> um there are two items that I'm going to vote no on, but I want to make a statement. Should I make the statement now or prior to my vote? It's up to you. >> Okay. Thank you. I'll make it prior on my vote. >> Okay. Unless I mean if you want to make it now because you want discussion on
it, you can do that. >> I I'll just make the statement. >> Okay. Any >> other discussion? >> Okay. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Serrano. >> No to number six.
abstain on 23 through number 27 and yes to the rest. Mrs. Baker. >> Okay. On number five,
um I am in favor um of our outwill employees to receive an annual raise based on their job descriptions. Only central administration and non-unit employees receive a straight percentage of their base salary.
I am going to vote no on the recommendation to give each non-unit employee a 3% raise on their base salary. Our teachers, support staff, principles, supervisor staff get a percentage based on the total dollars to
move each employee up one step of their salary guides. The dollar amount varies on the steps in in the guide. In my opinion, the 3% in dollars re results in a skewed monetary direction favoring
this group of employees over other group employees. So, I'm a note to number five. Number six, I [clears throat] will be voting I be voting on agenda item number six. I am
not in favor of an increase in compensation. I am in favor of an increase in comp of in compensation. However, the recommend recommended increase reflects a structure that combines job description performance and
additional responsibilities when serving as an interim outside of the job description. This combined compensation is being added to the base salary. Therefore, I will be voting no. So, I'm
a no to five and six. And yes, there uh are we are we voting on 23 through 26 too? >> Yeah, >> we are. >> 27. >> Uh then I'm I'm uh abstaining
on 23 24 25 26 and 27. Thank you. And then yes to the rest, right? >> Yes to everything else. >> Yes to everything. Okay, Mrs. Bloom. Um
I'm abstaining on number five. Number six. Yes to AM. Abstain from JW. Abstain on number 23, 24, 25, 26, and 27. Yes to the rest. >> You abetting all that. That was quick.
Abstain to five. Number six, >> yes to AM. Abstain on JW and then abstain on 23, 24, 25, 26, and 27. >> Mrs. Clancy,
>> yes to all. Yes to all. >> Mrs. Chilla. >> Yes to all. >> Mrs. Hartung. >> I have to abstain from 23 through 27 and yes to the rest.
>> Mr. Liberty. >> Yes to all. >> Mr. Ross stay on number six. No to 23 24 25 26 and 27. Yes to the rest. >> Yes to the rest.
>> Yes to the rest. >> Miss Kazmple abstain on 23 through 27. Yes to the rest. >> You have five abstensions. on 23 through 27
2 and then you have a no. So you have six. So that doesn't pass the number 23 through 27. >> Go ahead. >> You just want to make sure we're all in agreement. We don't feel comfortable just, >> you know, stating what county. Did
number five and number six carry >> five and six? What were the votes on five and six? >> One, two. >> Some people have stayed on one of them. >> One, two, >> I just need to know where there are five votes for number five.
>> I counted five. Number five pass. >> So for number five you have >> Oh no no >> and you have one abstension. >> So
>> and the rest is yes. So that passes >> number six. [clears throat] >> Okay. >> Number six you have a no >> and an abstension. So you have two nos and one abstension. >> Did you have to break out
>> on people? >> AM was a yes and we abstained from JW. So JW number six was an abstension. So that means you have two abstensions for number six
for >> JW and a no. And then you have a yes for number six. So >> can you can you just can you do it again? So can we do number five? >> What was number five? >> Number five pass.
>> Five pass. >> Number five passed. >> 23 to 27 failed. Five passed. >> We got to go over six again. >> So six has six has two nos >> on the whole thing. >> On the whole thing.
>> We have to break them. Can we do a vote that is >> individual for AM and then a vote for JW just so that it makes it clean? >> Yeah, >> sure. >> Thank you. >> So, what is the vote? Just two notes. >> So, there's a there we're going to redo the vote for number six, a vote for JW
and a vote for AF. >> Mrs. Baker, >> no. Not to both. Yeah, >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Yes. AM abstain from JW. >> Mrs. Clancy,
>> yes to both. >> Mrs. Chilla, >> yes to both. Mrs. Hartong, >> yes to both. >> Mr. Li Liberty, >> yes to both.
>> Mr. Ross, >> stay to both. >> Mr. Serrano, >> no to both. Miss Kazmple. >> Yes. >> Both car. >> Both car. Mhm.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. Under finance motion to approve items 1 through 17. >> Motion second. Any discussion? Seeing none, roll call.
>> Mrs. Baker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Bloom, >> yes. >> Mrs. Clancy, >> yes. >> Miss Chilla, >> no to 16. Yes. To the rest. >> Mrs. Hartung. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Li Liberty. >> Notice 16. Yes. To the rest. Mr. Ross, >> yes. >> Mr. Serrano, >> yes. >> Miss Kazmpo, yes. Motion carries.
>> Under special ed, can I have a motion? >> Just before we continue, I just want to give a thank you to the donations. I think the Acme gift cards, right? That was a really nice donation. And then also the >> the dugouts uh for softball from uh
>> the Ocean One Investment Group. That was a very nice donation as well. So, it's going to be amazing. >> Just going to read it. >> And also want to say congratulations to our retirement. There's just one on here,
Lisa Mars, job coach, who has worked for the district for 11 years. Congratulations, Lisa. [applause] Okay. under special education. Can I have a motion to approve items one and two? >> Move. >> Second.
>> Um, any discussion? >> See none. Roll call. >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Clancy. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Chilla. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Hartung. >> Yes. >> Mr. Liberty.
>> Yes. Mr. Ross, >> yes. >> Mr. Serrano, >> yes. >> Mrs. Baker, >> yes. >> Miss Kazmple, >> yes. >> Um, Megan just noticed that the attachment
under the RFP for legal services is not actually the resolution. It's this it's the breakdown of the RFPs, >> isn't it? Under the recommended
>> It's at the It's in the It's in here >> in what is here? >> It's right under recommended action, right, Keny? >> I don't see it. >> Oh, >> I don't have anything on mine. >> Um, it's a >> I just have one page. No, but it's at
the very top. >> It does. It says for a one-year term. It doesn't say when it begins. >> It doesn't say like the time period. So, it could just be it could be June 30. It was immediate. >> It is immediate, but I want
>> How do we ensure that it's immediate? >> Yeah. Like I wanted to I want to make sure that it says that it's just a one-year term. >> Do you want to amend it and take the vote again? I think that it should be amended to for the minutes to reflect that it's >> January 1st.
>> January 1st and then whatever. >> We can just amend that. >> Yeah, you can amend that. And >> you don't have to check with them first. >> With who? >> No, I think I thought you guys had that discussion that it was.
>> Did you talk to them? >> I wasn't there. >> Nope. >> Do they understand that it's >> Did you guys ask that question? They all know that they will be starting in January, but I mean it's it's not for us to reach out to the lawyer and say, "You're on the agenda." Did the business
office reach out to them or not? [laughter] >> Jesus Christ. >> Are you serious? Nobody told them that their vote getting voted on tonight? >> You guys handled this entire thing. >> The board does not reach out to an attorney. Eric,
>> I'm not saying you should have. I'm just simply saying that we weren't in the room to have any of these conversations. We were >> It's on the agenda. So we were asked to leave. We were asked to add it to the agenda. >> So the question we ask you to add a resolution to appoint them. >> This is the way we appoint. If you want to specify a date, go ahead.
>> Can we can we revote Can we revote on number 15 and 16? Excuse me. I'm sorry. Jesus. Can we revote on 15 and 16 and make the date effective >> January 1st? >> The date of reorganization. >> It's not even a resolution. It's just
okay. It's like not >> Can we Can we do that and then have Janine >> You can amend it to say whatever it is that she wanted to say. I just want to make sure that everybody understands that this was an immediate action as opposed to it being until July 1st of
next year. I just >> just I'm going to second her motion to just make it effective at >> Okay, that's fine. But my but is someone from the district going to reach out to these lawyers and tell them that they now work for us? Did anyone reach out to them and tell them that they're on the
agenda? >> You've you've already asked that question and you're it's bordering on making us trying to look bad here. No one's trying to make you look bad. Here's the problem. The problem is that >> answer a question. Sometimes >> I already answered the question. We did not. >> We had no idea. We had no idea. Hold on. Let me speak please. We had no idea what
conversations you had about start times and we were not conveyed any information. So how would we even know what that start date was? We were asked to leave the room. So technically there was no start date. There was a tentative start date. So right now as we are sitting here there's going to be a
decision on the start date. So once the vote happens, then the business office can then reach out to the attorneys and let them know that their start date is whatever date we are thinking is if the motion passes. >> I'd like to put a motion on the floor to
revote on letter N numbers 15 and 16 to make the effective date for uh commencement of the services for solicitor and negotiations the date of reorg which is Janine, you know, >> January. January 6th.
>> Second. >> We have to roll call that. >> You can roll. You can roll call it when you're >> when you have a minute. >> Yeah. Are you ready? >> Yeah. >> Mrs. Clancy. >> So, you're amending it to be January the
new year? >> Yeah. January 16. >> There's my farmer right there. Um, I'm going to abstain. I need more information than than just to vote on that. And I think we need to reach out we need to reach out to [clears throat]
the law firms to see what their understanding was. So I'm going to abstain. >> Do you have a copy of the RFP? >> Mrs. Chill. >> Yes. To 15. no to 16 >> with the understanding that if one of
those fails, the Bush Law Group remains as either the solicitor or the negotiator because that's what we currently are right now. >> Right. >> Right. I'm just I'm a notice. >> No, no. I'm just just making sure that everybody's aware of the effects of >> what happened.
>> Yeah. You would stand. Okay. Mrs. Harong. >> Yes. Mr. Liberty. >> Yes to 15. No to 16. >> Okay.
Mr. Ross, >> yes to both. >> Mr. Serrano. >> Yes to both. >> Mrs. Baker. >> Yes to both. >> Mrs. Bloom. >> Yes to both.
>> Mrs. um Miss Kazimple. Yes to both. Motion carries. >> Can I have a motion to approve the ratification of the MOA with the WTPA? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Any discussion? >> Sorry.
>> What? >> No. >> Roll call. >> Mrs. Clancy. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Chill. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Hartung. >> Abstain. Mr. Li Liberty.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Ross, >> yes. >> Mr. Serrano, >> yes. [clears throat] >> Miss Baker, >> yes. >> Mrs. Bloom, >> abstain. >> Miss Cassumpo, >> yes. Motion carries. Congratulations.
[applause] Thank you for waiting. >> Uh, any items of new business? >> I have one. >> Oh, I have one, too. Excuse [clears throat] me. >> Uh, I'm going to read a little something. It's been a It's been a rough year. So, I just want you to know that
the ethics charges that were filed against me were I'm actually not going to read something were completely dismissed. Uh, they were not only dismissed on time, which they could have been, but the school ethics commission actually noted that they're not just going to dismiss it on time, they're
going to go to the merits and found that there was absolutely no evidence against me whatsoever. If anybody would like to oper this, I'm happy to share it. Um, this this whole scenario cost this district probably over $40,000 in the
investigation that came up with nothing uh along with the deductible. So, completely cleared and vindicated. I know that I would probably have to say that for myself. So, I have thank you for everybody that supported me and stood up and and spoke. I appreciate you very much. I >> I'll just add I'm in that bucket as
well. So I am also cleared in that as a respondent. >> Thank you. >> And as was Dr. Nathan completely. >> Linda had good news. >> Yeah. I wanted to talk about since we didn't talk about it last week how great Peter Pan and Wendy were. If you got a
chance to go out and see it, I personally love the Pirates because my daughter was one of them. Um, and I wanted to introduce you to the 2026 spring musical of Bye-Bye Birdie, which I am so excited about. I tried to
audition to be a telephone girl and Mr. Stefan wouldn't let me. Um, I don't know why. I think I'm just going to go up on the stage anyway, but Bye-Bye Birdie will run March 12th through March 14th with two shows on the 14th. Tickets will
go on sale February 2nd. Once the cast is ready, cuz they just had a read through today for the first time. Once the cast is ready, I would love to invite them to a meeting to have a little sneak peek at the production and maybe one of their songs. I'm hoping
it's Bye-Bye Birdie, but that'll be up to Mr. Stephen because he doesn't let me make those decisions. Um, but that's it. Peter, Pan, and Wendy were really good. Super cute. Bye-bye birdie is going to be, in my opinion, amazing because it's
a great movie. It's a great play. >> The music's so good. It's set in the 50s. I love it. >> Yes, >> they definitely should come to a meeting and do that. >> We have to reach out a great idea. The ones they're ready. I don't know if they're ready. >> Okay. >> They're getting there. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. Other items. Okay. Can I have a motion to open the public? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Anyone from the >> Oh, this is your last time to speak in 2025. >> Okay.
>> Can I have a motion to close? Close. Oh, move. So, who? >> Julie. Is it three minutes or five minutes? >> It should be three minutes. >> Yeah, she's gone. It should You can just You can just go up. >> Oh, that should be three minutes on the [snorts] timer. >> Janine >> or whoever does the timer.
>> We have I was going to say something, but >> Carrie Capio from Soul. Um, two two things that I wanted to ask. I see that Interactive Kids now has some kind of contract for basic functional behavior assessment and
my question was are we still using Denovi? Um, in case anybody wasn't aware, Denovi almost went under again. So, I would really consider going with Interactive Kids
full-time. Um my other question was under negotiations or or not I'm sorry not negotiations HR looks like somebody was approved to replace sorry number 17 and number 18. So they
were replacing a gentleman and the two people being hired are replacing the same person. Can somebody explain how that's going to happen? >> That's it. >> Thank you. Dr. Hibs, I'll give those to
you. >> So, the first the answer to the first one is is yes, but I'm looking at 17 and 18. Hold on one sec. >> Chissy, you can just go up there. >> I I think it's I don't I I don't have that with me right now. I'm guessing it's a typo because they wouldn't
replace two people. Okay. >> But I I'll be able to share that information out there. >> Everybody voted and agreed on Yeah, >> it's Yeah, it just it it would just be the wrong It would just be the wrong name in parenthesis, which we can correct for sure. Um but everything else would have been okay.
>> It's two different position numbers. >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Chrissy Kosar, WT SBA. Um, most of our support staff do work as hard as two people. So, it wouldn't surprise me if we had two people for one person that was leaving. Just want to put that out there. Um, the second thing is please
don't hire Dovi or anybody like Denovi. We have the most amazing staff in this district. Our assistants are second to none. They need training. They need to be able to have the certifications that Denovi
have have afforded their staff to be able to come and have you seen how much we pay to Denovi. We could have our own staff doing that. Pay them to learn how to do this. Okay. I know several years ago when we had a
Mr. Denovi on the on the board and it was obviously no relation except a cousin to the Mr. a Denovi that's running this this um business and it was you know we were told that oh no no no Denovi would no that's no not on a conflict well obviously it was a conflict cuz we're paying them a lot of
money now so please pay our own staff the money that they deserve to do these positions that we paid Denovi to do this is ridiculous I don't know why a district of this size would would outsource those services when we have the staff in in in house that are
absolutely amazing let's stop this let's stop being so silly and paying all this money out. Train our own staff to do this. Get them the certifications they they need. It's people that work in the district that know the parents that know the children that know everything that goes on here and let our own staff do
this work. Thank you and have a merry Christmas everyone. >> Thank you Chrissy. >> Okay. Can I have a motion to close to the public? >> Motion. >> All in favor? >> I motion to adjurnn. Oh, did you have a plaque for Carol?
>> Okay. >> Huh? >> Thank you, Carol. >> Oh, okay. >> Thank you for everything. Yeah. [applause] >> Can I have a motion to adjurnn? >> Can I have a second? Second. Second. >> All in favor? Hi.
>> Hi.