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agenda. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
>> Madam Secretary, roll call, please. >> Council Vice President Brown, >> here. >> Councilman Harris, >> here. >> Councilwoman Pascalone, >> here. >> Councilman Urkus, >> present. Council President Deborello >> here. >> Mayor Delipia >> here.
>> Mr. Russo >> here. >> Mr. Rooney >> present. >> Presentation. I'd like to ask Chief Gersuch to come to the podium as he will be making an annual report. Good evening, mayor, council, and
members of the community. Thank you for your continued support of the Washington Township Police Department. Tonight, I'm here to speak um plainly about something that we can no longer ignore, and that's the conditions of our police headquarters. Our building was constructed in 1967 when the township
had about 15,000 residents and just nine police officers. Today, we serve nearly 50,000 residents with close to 100 sworn officers. Yet, we are still operating out of the same facility. For years, we've made it
work. We've adapted, repaired, patched, painted, and maintained it. But we are now beyond that point. This is no longer about inconvenience. This is about infrastructure safety and reliability. And I want to be clear, it is my responsibility as chief of police to
bring this to you. This is not a new issue. We've discussed this building for over 10 years. I've outlined it in my 5-year strategic plan. And tonight, I'm formally putting it back in front of you with a documentation uh booklet to support it because at this point,
ignoring it would be irresponsible. The reality is this. We are operating out of a facility that is nearly 60 years old. We've had power failures that shut down headquarters. We've had roof leaks in every room, water intrusion downstairs, and failed infrastructure. Our 1966
detention cells, our jails require New Jersey Department of Corrections state exemptions just to remain in use. We lack proper evidence storage. We're storing evidence in a shed in in the police parking lot. We have outdated
HVAC plumbing issues and a layout that creates safety concerns. That is not a modern police facility. That is a liability. And let me be clear about something else. This is not a 9-to-F5 office building. Our building is open and used 24 hours a day, 365 days a
year. We handle over 50,000 calls for service each year and make nearly 1,000 arrests. This building is in constant use by our officers, our staff, the court, prisoners, victims, and the public. When something fails in our building, it doesn't just disrupt operations. It
impacts public safety. This is where our officers report for duty. This is where residents come in crisis. This is where we coordinate emergency response during major incidents. A facility like this cannot fail.
You will see in my report at the same time, this township has planned and invested in modern public safety facilities in other areas. Our six firehouses were built in 1995, 2000, 2007, 2005, and 2022.
Our police headquarters has not kept pace. Built in 1967, there comes a point where continue to repair a building like this is no longer responsible. becomes reactive instead of proactive. And it puts us in a position where we are waiting for the next
failure instead of preventing. The question is not whether this building will continue to deteriorate. It will. The question is whether we choose to plan ahead or we wait until we are forced to react. A modern police headquarters is not a luxury. It is an
essential infrastructure. It would allow us to operate safely, securely, and efficiently with proper detention facilities, secure evidence handling, modern systems, and adequate space. And it would position this township for the next 60 years. And I will say this respectfully, council. It is my
responsibility to bring this to you. It is my responsibility to be progressive. It is my responsibility to advance the police department. Um, and it is the responsibility um of town council and mayor to make those tough decisions and plan for the
future of this township. Let me close with this. Our officers will continue to show up every day and do their job no matter the conditions. That's who they are. But this community should not accept a police facility that does not match the professionalism and demands of a township this size. Because this
building is not about us. It's about the residents we serve. and they deserve better than a facility we are simply trying to hold together. Tonight is not about making a final decision. It's about acknowledging a reality and taking a first step forward because
doing nothing is not neutral. It it becomes a risk. Thank you very much. Um before I conclude, the president of our PBA was unable to attend tonight. Um he asked that I share a letter outlining the concerns of our officers regarding
the working conditions inside police headquarters. Um these are the men and women who work in this facility every day. Um I think it's important that their perspective be part of this discussion moving forward. Um I just want to hand out these letters from our
PDA president. >> Thank you very much for your time, >> Chief. Thank you for your uh presentation. Um we'll definitely look at the repairs that are necessary and the costs to make those repairs. Um with the town growing,
you know, obviously safety is a very important thing to all of us up here. Um and we'll be financially responsible. Like we said in the past is, you know, being financially responsible is not not spending money. It's just spending the right amount in the right spot. So, we'll look at this seriously and and figure out either getting these repairs
done or figuring something out. >> Thank you, mayor. I believe that um Joe's worked in the police station, so he knows the conditions. I've been there 30 years. Um Frank, our director of public works, who was also the director of buildings and grounds, he knows the facility also. I think we should also
like consult with him concerning uh the the the actual >> the planning ahead. >> When did it become the police department? It was the municipal building, right? >> So the municipal building and the police department were together there in 1967. >> So they both were there. >> Yes. Yes.
>> Um there was nine officers at the time, 15,000 residents. So we're still working out of the same facility. >> Okay. >> Thank you, >> Chief. Chief, thank you. We'll uh >> Thank you. >> review the report and we too are concerned. Thank you. >> Thank you. I appreciate it. the the photographs on the front page of my
report are actual news articles from 1967 announcing in the uh grand opening of the police station. >> Well, thanks. >> Moving on. Can I get a motion to approve the bill list for March 25th?
>> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Councilman Harris, second by Councilman Yis. Uh, excuse me. Roll call. >> Councilman, >> yes. >> Councilman Harris, >> yes. Councilwoman Pascalone, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Brown, >> yes.
>> Council President Deborlla, >> yes. >> Bill list is approved. Can I get a motion to approve the regular meeting minutes for March 11th, 2026? >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Councilwoman Pascalone. Do I have a second by Councilman Harris? Roll
call. >> Councilman, >> yes. >> Councilman Harris, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Pascalone, >> yes. Council Vice President Brown. >> Yes. >> Council President Deborah. >> Yes.
>> Moving on to ordinances. Ordinance 10, 2026, an ordinance of Township of Washington, Gloucester and State of Cluster County and State of New Jersey establishing a joint municipal court with the Burough Pivot repealing and amending Chapter 2, Article 7, I'm
sorry, article 12. Um, municipal court. This ordinance is up for adoption after public hearing. Can I have a motion to open the p open to the public? >> I'll make that motion. >> Motion by Councilwoman Pascalone. Second. >> Second >> by Councilman Harris. All those in favor?
>> I. >> Anybody wishing to speak on ordinance 10, 2026, please come to the podium. Seeing none, can I have a motion to close to the public? >> Make that motion. >> Councilwoman Pascalone. Do I have a second by Councilman Harris?
All in favor? >> I >> I uh can I have a motion to adopt ordinance 10 2026 >> by Councilman Yorks. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> By Councilman Harris. Roll call. >> Councilman Jesus. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harris.
>> Yes. >> Councilwoman Pascalone. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Brown. >> Yes. >> Council President Damrella. >> Yes. >> Moving on. Uh motion 10 is adopted. Ordinance 10 is adopted. Excuse me.
Ordinance 11, 2026, an ordinance fixing the salaries of certain officers and employees of the township of Washington. This ordinance is for introduction only. Public hearing and adoption will occur at our April 8th, 2026 meeting. Can I have a motion to introduce
uh ordinance 11, 2026? >> I'll make that motion >> by Councilwoman Pascalone. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> By Councilman Harris. Roll call. >> Councilman York. >> Yes. >> Councilman Harris. Yes. >> Councilwoman Pascalone. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Brown. >> Yes.
>> Council President Deborello. >> Yes. >> Moving on to resolutions. The following resolutions are by consent agenda and only require a vote for all listed. Each one must be read by title. If any member of council wishes to have one removed
and heard separately, they need to indicate prior to the reading of the titles. Does any council uh member need anything removed and discussed separately? >> Resolution 84 2026. Resolution cancelling taxes for a totally disabled
veteran block 192 lot 7. Resolution 85 2026 cancelling taxes for a totally disabled veteran block 115 lot 3.05 C0016. Resolution cancel, I'm sorry, resolution
86, 2026. Resolution cancelling 50% taxes for a totally disabled veteran, block 195.09, lot 612. Resolution 87, resolution cancelling taxes for a totally disabled veteran, block 1606,
lot 11, effective January 27th, 2026. Resolution 88, resolution awarding a contract through the Camden County Educational Services Cooperative to South Jersey Turf Consultants LLC for
turf application and service for the Washington Township Soccer County House Complexes and 8 Acres. Resolution 89 2026 resolution to authorize the submission of an NJDCA local efficiency
achievement program or LEAP challenge grant for fiscal year 2026 to fund a feasibility study to investigate the shared port service between the township of Washington and the Burough of Pitman. Resolution 90, 2026, resolution
authorizing the execution of a shared service agreement between the township of Washington and the Burough of Pitman to established the Washington Township Joint Municipal Court. Resolution 91, 2026. Resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK Events
Crawfish and Jazz Festival in Washington Township Lake Park on April 18th, 2026. Resolution 92 approving a large gathering application for JMK events country in the park festival in Washington town in Washington Lake Park
on July 11th, 2026. Resolution 93, 2026. Resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK Event Seafood and Music Festival in Washington Lake Park on August 29, 2026.
Resolution 94, 2026. Resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK Events Halloween Food and Music Festival in Washington Lake Park on October 24th, 2026. Resolution 95-2026.
Resolution approving an agreement between the Township of Washington and American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees, AFL CIO, District Council 71, Local 333L, Clerical Resolution 90, I'm sorry, resolution
96-2026, resolution to approve the submission of a grant application and to execute GR grant contract with the County of Gloucester and Community Development Block Grant Program for the proposed West Minister Bul Boulevard Boulevard
CDBG improvements. And finally, resolution 97206, resolution authorizing an emergency temporary appro appropriation of funds. Could I have a motion to approve resolutions 8426
to resolution 9726 by Councilman Jüks? Do I have a second? >> Second. >> By Councilman Harris. >> Roll call. >> Councilman Jüks. >> Yes. Councilman Harris, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Passone, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Brown, >> yes.
>> Council President Debor, >> yes. >> Resolutions are adopted. Moving on to old business, new business and reports. Start with Councilman Harris. >> Uh yes, very brief. Uh this week, I just
want to mention uh I had the pleasure to attend an event uh yesterday uh called South Jersey Business Spotlight. It was a really nice event. Uh when I became councilman, you know, one of u I had a lot of focuses that I wanted to uh to address and one of them is all the local
businesses of Washington Township trying to help them out and help promote local businesses. Uh so this event was was really really nice. Uh it was a lot of Washington Township uh businesses there as well as businesses in local towns. Um, this event was held by um, >> Luke Stanch and his wife Heather um,
from Stanch uh, Property Services and uh, he put a lot of work into it. It was a great event. Um, uh, Councilwoman Dana Pascaloon was there as well and um, it was it was just a great way of of spotlighting and helping local businesses, people meet each other and
create um, you know, some synergy amongst local businesses. So, it was really great. And again, I want to give a shout out to Luke uh Stanch and his wife Heather for putting that on. And uh that's actually all I have this week. >> Councilwoman Pascal, >> I was I'm going to just add to that. So,
there was about 200 business people there and it was really nice to meet everybody locally. So, I suggest if you're a business owner to come and attend the next one. I think it should be in May at Chop House, I think. Um okay. So for uh the environmental committee uh live animal presentation by
Woodford Cedar Run Wildlife Center on 419 at the library lectures on gardening for butterflies and shorebirds there's a walk in Washington Park with experts to see resident and m migratory birds on 426 there's a milkweed and maragold giveaway
on 426 a tree seedling giveaway on 52 and tree planting and arbor day 424 and there should be more information coming out about what we're going to do on Earth Day. That's all I have. >> Councilman Jras, >> thank you. Uh I only have one thing. Um
this coming Sunday, uh which is um Palm Sunday for the residents of Heritage Valley and who are members of the Heritage Valley Civic Association, uh there will be an Easter egg hunt 11:00 Saturday um at Quay Park. Um and have a
happy uh Easter uh next Sunday. Thank you. >> Our school board leaison who is now officially recognized. >> So I do have a few things. Um so Washington Township High School Student Council will be presenting Mr.
Washington Township on Thursday, April 23rd, 2026 at 700 p.m. in the Republic Bank Performing Arts Center. The theme is Super Mario Brothers and tickets can be purchased on booktix.com now through the day of the show. The cost is $10 per ticket. Each of the
candidates have t-shirts available through March 31st and a portion of the t-shirt sales will go to each of the candidates charities. Autism Acceptance Week will run March 30th through April 2nd. Students at the high school will participate in an
autism acceptance spirit week with days such as Magnificent Mind Monday, neurodeiversity Tuesday, sensory wear Wednesday, and autism acceptance Thursday. The Washington Township High School Dance Concert Around the World will be held on Thursday, April 2nd,
2026, starting at 7:00 p.m. Be sure to come out and enjoy this amazing performance. Tickets can be purchased on booktix.com and can be purchased at the door as well. The township choir will be having their spring concert on Tuesday, May 12th at 7:00 p.m. It is free
admission and all are welcome and encouraged to come. Additionally, the freshman sophomore class council had their annual March Madness basketball game on March 20th starting at 10:30 a.m. Students had the opportunity to participate in a basketball game and the cheerleaders performed a halftime
routine. Orchard Valley Middle School will stage the junior version of Mean Girls on March 26th through the 28th. And on the same dates, Bunker Hill Middle School will perform Susical the Musical Junior. Finally, Chestnut Ridge Middle School will be having its spring
musical Rock of Ages on April 17th, 18th, and 19th. Some sports news. Um Simone McGllinchi was named swimmer of the meet at the Glosser County Championship meet for finishing first in the 100 freestyle and breaking the county meet record. She
broke our high school record which was previously set by Gail Hegel over 48 years ago in 1978. Mark Deo placed first in the Tri County Conference Showcase and Gloucester County Championship meets. He established a new diving a new diving
score record for both the six dive and 11 dive meets. Mark finished third at the New Jersey State Championship dive meet. The 2026 senior trip began on Tuesday, March 17th, and they returned on Saturday, March 21st. It was a week full of Disney magic, and the students
on the trip made lots of memories as their time at Washington Township High School comes to a close. Well, thank you. >> Thank you, John. Mr. Rooney, >> nothing to report, Mr. Council Vice President. Thank you, sir. >> Mr. Russo,
>> mayor. Thank you, Council Vice President. Um, just want to mention there was a bunch of events on the agenda. So, look at the township website for events this summer. Uh, there's many events like walks, movies, music, and those festivals in the park. So, take
advantage of our park, which is the largest municipal park in New Jersey. And lastly, I just want to say it's uh spring sports season, soccer, baseball. I spent probably 20 hours at baseball this weekend. Just slow down. Um, you know, there's a lot of kids going back and forth with snack stands and walking
across streets. So, just be conscious as you, you know, enter those areas that there are a lot of kids running around. Um, that's all I have. >> Council President Deloo, >> thank you so much. You can't see I'm holding a slow down sign, Mayor, just so
just so you know. Uh, I I I hear what the mayor saying and I and I agree that there's so many kids out with the weather getting nicer. also wanted to say happy birthday to to Giana, our township representative for the schools. It was her birthday. I don't want to put her on the spot, but happy birthday to her. And you know, like the mayor said, there's a lot of great events out there.
And the other thing I want to say is if you're not following the police on social media, if if you have Facebook, take a look at that. There's some great stories of great things that our officers are doing. So please, if you have time, read them. They're really great. They post a lot of great stories. They're just going above and beyond what
police officers do. It's so great to see and they actually got a lot of national headlines, right? It's a lot of things they're doing. They're making national headlines. All for good, all for positive. That's all I have. Thank you. >> My report, um, nothing really much on the library front. There are a lot of
upcoming children's events coming up. Please refer to their website for the date and times of these programs. Uh, from the Old Stone House, uh, they have a lot of happenings in 2026 for the Old Stone House Historic Village. April 25th, their 18th annual classic car
show. May 2nd, a plane air art day. September 26th, a harvest festival. October 10th, community yard sale. October 31st, paranormal after hours tours. And December 12th, the magic of
Christmas. Uh they're open tours for the house February through March 21st, April 18th, May 16th, excuse me, July 18th, August 15th, and September 19th, October 17th, and November 21st. All tours will
begin at 9:30 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. at the railroad station. So again, take part in going through Washington Township and learn its history. A lot of volunteers take the time and put a lot of effort into maintaining the property and uh you'll learn a lot. Um they've seen a
lot of posts on Facebook lately about repairs to potholes. If anybody's experienced anything, please reach out to public works and let them know where we might have some problems and they'll take care of it. Um other than that, that's it for me. So,
uh, please be sure to lock your car doors every night and take your keys and fobs inside your house with you. If you suspect suspicious activity, please contact the police and don't ignore it. Uh, finally, spring is here. Uh, warmer
weather is getting warmer. Passover begins sunset April 1st through April 9th. The municipal building will be closed on Friday, April 3rd, in observance of Good Friday. Offices will reopen on Monday, April 6th. Easter Sunday is April 5th. And please visit
our website listed in the agenda for information and updates regarding the new trash and recycling collection process. Um, director, um, April 1st with regard to not having to call to schedule yard
waste. Is that correct? They're already happening. Okay. Um Margaret Egan Library offers many events. Please check their website for information and he on heaggen happenings. We encourage you to shop local. Washington Township small
businesses have a lot to offer. Moving on to audience participation. Please follow the decorum posted which has also been attached to the public agenda and limit your comments to 5 minutes. Once you have completed your comments or questions, the council
president will then ask if any member of the governing body or their designate wishes to address your co questions or comments. Can I have a motion to open the public? >> Make that motion >> by councilwoman Pascalone. Do I have a second? By Councilman Harris. All in favor? >> I.
>> Anyone wishing to speak, please come to the podium, state your name and address for the record. Good evening. Uh Richard Croft of uh Ako, New Jersey. I was here a couple months ago. I've uh
been in contact with Christina the township clerk. I've asked to be placed on the uh the agenda regarding uh cannabis dispensary the remaining cannabis dispensary license. So far um I haven't gotten on
the agenda. I don't know why. Seems like a pretty simple thing, but I haven't been here. You know, I haven't been uh honored to uh be placed on the agenda. So, one, I'd like to know why. And secondly, I'd like to know what's what's
going on with the remaining cannabis license. >> Well, with regard to your first question um with your first statement, >> are you looking to get on the agenda to make a presentation? >> Yes. >> Okay. We can look into that and find um
I'll talk to the rest of the council. As for the second one, at this time I'm going to turn it over to our um solicitor for any comments uh that he may have. But ordinance 172022 allows us
to uh award up to three licenses and at this time um council is not prepared to comment or do anything else at this time. uh when we when we are ready there's a lot of there's many people who have put in particular requests so uh
you know we have to go through do our due dil diligence >> solicitor >> thank you Mr. Council Vice President. Um, yes. I mean, that that pretty much sums it up. Um, as I think we talked about the last time you're here, sir, uh, recreational marijuana is still
relatively new in New Jersey. This governing body, like most governing bodies, is continually looking at its ordinance. U people reach out, they're interested um in the licenses if they're available. And at the time there's something to report um there'll be
something to be said um from this dis but there's nothing to report at the moment. So >> what's going to happen to the third license? >> Well again sir as we've discussed before um you're asking me to guess at what the governing body might do down the road.
There's nothing on the agenda tonight. As the council vice president said they're not prepared to take any action right now on that third license. So I there's nothing else to report right now. >> Are they saving it for some favorite son or something like that?
>> I I cannot give any more of a direct answer than the one I've I just gave and I know I've given to you previously on the >> right. But that's not a really good answer. It's >> well it's so sometimes you think something's not a good answer, but in reality it's just that you don't like
the answer you're being given. You want me to give you another answer, but the one I'm giving you is the accurate answer. Then why have the license available? Might as well just put a moratorum on it and you know people would you know have to waste their time coming here to to beg for a license?
>> I don't I don't have I don't have anything else I don't have anything else to add sir. I think the council vice president was very clear and I know that we've had this discussion previously on the record here. >> Right. But wouldn't that be the prudent business way of handling something is to say
>> sir this is what public comment's for? that can be your opinion and you're up here expressing that. I believe the council vice president also said in the future they may be open to hearing presentations. Sometimes we do that at something called a work session that governing bodies have. Sometimes they're
part of council meetings, but that's the only thing that I can say right now. Sir, I don't have any more information for you. >> All right. So, vice uh president, is somebody going to get back to me or >> Well, sir, again, if there I don't mean to cut you, Mr. Council of Vice President. At this point, sir, you've
been told everything there is to know >> in the event there's additional >> question. Is somebody going to get back to me regarding getting on the agenda to present my proposal? >> Well, sir, respectfully, and I mean that, I could call you once a week and tell you exactly what you just heard from this dis, but it would not be new
information. >> I'm not asking that. I'm asking to be >> You are you're you're asking me to give you the answer you want. I cannot be any clearer. >> I'm asking the vice president which he just said he'd look into it >> and the council vice president told you
the solicitor would answer your question and I have again >> I'm not asking you the question. I'm asking you don't like the answer. He said he would look into getting me placed on the agenda. >> No, that's not that's actually not what he said. What the what the council vice president said is they were open to hearing presentations in the future and
he would look into it and consider it. That is a distinctly different thing than something going on the agenda and this governing body taking action. Right. >> I would like to replay the tape cuz that's not what he said. >> But regardless, >> sir, I I I heard him. It's my job to listen. It's what it's what this
township's taxpayers pay for an attorney to do. >> So, do you have another question, sir? >> Nope. Is there a time frame? >> Sir, again, I'm not giving you legal advice. I've said everything that I can say. >> I didn't ask for legal advice. I'm just asking You did even though you didn't
think you did. So >> what are we >> I've given are we including are you the judge and jury? >> No. No sir. It's just simply a matter of I've given you a very direct answer and I I endeavor to try to make sure that when people public comment and somebody
in this dis asked me to answer your question, I answer it directly. I have now at two separate council meetings. >> Okay. But I have a a bad feeling that the license is being saved for a friendly party. >> You can make whatever unsubstantiated
claim you want, sir. Let's see what happen, >> but I have no additional I have no additional information for you at this time. >> I know you don't. You don't have any information for me, but let's see what happens. >> Well, respectfully, sir, that's not the position of counsel. And when we want to move forward, we will move forward. At
this time, we are not prepared to move forward. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anybody else wishing to speak? >> Please state your name and address for the record. >> Uh Mike audio Macintosh Road in Twin Ponds East. Um just wanted to know what
council or township and it kind of goes over to the chief too. What can we do about the quads and dirt bikes that are all over the neighborhoods? They ride through the back of Twin Ponds East on the old Fred Smith Orchard that I believe is protected land. I don't know
if it's private property, if somebody owns it, but you try to sit out back and, you know, enjoy the summertime and the warm weather and the kids going to soccer and everything and there's quads everywhere. So, I didn't know if there's a plan, if there's anything
we can do. I don't know if it's to bring up the council. I have contacted the chief. I had a sergeant involved on it a year ago and that kind of went by the way. >> Well, I believe every councilman and the mayor is in receipt of your uh letter, right?
Right. >> And that's kind of and I had emailed you last year. It kind of we did the same thing and it went to uh one of the sergeants and he was going to get back to me >> and he had a plan he was working on and that kind of and I get it. Everybody's
busy, the police busy and then the quads go away for the winter and everybody's fine. Well, now they're out and they're out in full force. So, I mean just this past weekend there were six or eight of them looping behind on the farm. So, I don't know. I mean, I'm getting fed up with it. I'm sure the rest of the town
is, too. But and I call the non-emergency every time that they're out there. And then 10, 15 minutes later when a patrolman comes by, the squads are gone. Then 25, 30 minutes later, the quads are back. So, it's just, you know, I just wanted to see if there was
anything that's on the on the on the plan of what we're doing about it. Sir, I was a receipt of the email that the mayor had forwarded over to me and I very familiar with this because I I dealt with it most of my career working for the chief. Um it it it's very challenging from a law enforcement
perspective. Title title 39, which is your motor vehicle title that that governs motor vehicle laws, um apply to ATVs, dirt bikes when they're on the roadway, then they leave the roadway. The police are very restricted on the ability to pursue them. um you're you're
limited by attorney general's guidelines. So, the tools are limited, but when you get them stopped, you can issue citations. Um there's certain actions that you can take when you catch those bikes on public roadway. Um so, it's it's probably a collaborative effort, right, where the police are
going to have to, you know, be involved in Chief. I mean, feel free to >> add to anything, but >> yeah, >> I I don't know. I mean, we put everything on social media. Is it something Hey, while they're fun, and they are. I'm not denying that. And I'm not denying anybody to have fun, but
there has to be a safer spot for you to do it. Maybe within the town they could purchase a piece of land and then they pay for something, you know, and buy insurance on it and all that and then you can go ride your quads. >> Yeah. Typically, because I mean, you're >> and then they have tracks down to Millville and all that, but
>> you're limited to private property because once you start, you're not allowed to operate them on public property. So, it it's just a matter of being able to safely catch up with them. >> Yeah. educate them to what the law is. I mean, especially if somebody, you know, >> well, do we know if that Fred Smith
orchard are they is that's protected land? I believe Fred Smith that's all public property. >> It is public. So, they can just ride with No. So, there are certain ordinances that limit what type of vehicles or bicycles or motorbikes that you're allowed to operate on our public
property. So, like said, the chief will be able to kind of look into that a little bit more. And this this is the time of year where >> that's why I brought it up. I mean, it was just over the weekend. There were so many of them out there and I was like, you know what? I'm going to send an email and I just started copying everybody from
>> Well, you know what happens, too, is a lot of bikes are purchased and quads are purchased in the offseason. You might have some newer riders, >> you know, and again, it's a matter of education and enforcement. >> So, I just didn't know if we could come up with something. >> Yeah, just an idea.
>> Thank you. >> Anybody else wishing to speak? Is that the >> alarm clock? >> Oh, >> anybody else? >> Seeing none, can I get a motion to close
to the public? >> I'll make that motion. >> Do I have a motion by Councilwoman Pascalone? Do I have a second? >> Second >> by Councilman Harris. All in favor? >> I. The next meeting, the next regular
meeting of the council is April 8th, 2026 at 6 PM. Can I get a motion to adjurnn? >> Motion by Councilwoman Pascalone. Do I have a second by Councilman Harris? Roll call. >> I'm sorry. >> Oh, no. All in favor? Oh, yeah. All in
favor? >> I meetings adjourned.