like to call this meeting order at 605. This is a regular meeting of the township of Washington in accordance with the requirements of New Jersey statutes regarding open public meetings. Notice meeting was legally advertised in the current post in South Jersey Times as well as post on the bulletin board and missile building. Fire exits are located through the double doors to your
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streamed. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands nationy and justice for all. Roll call, please.
Council Vice President Brown, here. Councilman Harris, here. Councilman Jras, present. Council President Deborello here. Mayor Delpia here. Mr. Rooney, present. Okay, before we do start our presentations with Frank, I want to I want to have Bob come talk
about Monster Goth, which is opening Saturday. I know that everyone's been excited about that. I know the mayor was there today with with me and Councilman Harris was there and Chief Gersik, and it was awesome. So Bob, go up to the please just tell us about the business a little bit. Give us some information what's happening Saturday and let's go
from there. Hello everyone. Um I am Bob Listister. I'm the owner of Monster Miniolf. We have two locations. One in Cherry Hill opened up in 2019. Uh luckily survived the pandemic and we're out in a new store which couldn't be more excited about. Um like I said, we had four of the gentlemen in there today
and I their their initial faces said it all. Um it's pretty it's pretty damn cool. Um, I'm gonna be arrogant about it. It is cool. Um, you know, but our biggest thing that I said since the beginning, um, when I first met with,
uh, mayor is if you guys can support us in getting open, which they did. Um, I'm ready now. Now we're open to fully start the second phase of giving back to the community, uh, which I'll talk about in a second. Um, but getting us open and literally lightning speed to give back to the community is a great thing
because there's not true family entertainment centers in this area. Um, what separates us and actually make makes us a true FCC. Um, is that we are not a Dave and Busters. We're not like a lot of the things where we get, you know, that you might go to and, you know, get creates riff raff. We are the
place where grandparents can show up on a Friday night safely and have a great time with their grandkids. That's like that's the where it all started from. Um, so if you go through our facility in Turnersville, we're on one shoppers Lane, the old Royal Royal Bargains. I think everyone everyone knows the old Royal Bargains because we still have
people as of yesterday coming in and saying, "Where's Royal Bargains?" Even though our signs are everywhere. It blows my mind, but it's it was entertaining through the construction process to have people come in. But, uh, one Shoppers Lane, we are black lit family entertainment. Um, it's all
indoors. It's golf, laser maze, laser tag, uh we have arcades, and we have two party rooms. Um so we have a ton of attractions for the kids. Um you know, I think the gentleman that we're there today can also kind of attest to this that it's it's it's pretty big. I mean,
we're 22,000 square ft. Um but it makes the old Royal Bargains, which was a big store, looks small. Yeah. Um the way we format it, it's all open ceiling, open concept. Um but it's, you know, it's air controlled, so you can come in. A lot of people in when we were in Cherry Hill, they thought we're an outdoor mini
because people just think mini golf. They initially think outdoor, but us being indoor. We're open 365 days um you know, a year. So, you can come in, enjoy yourself, and temper control that was great. Even today, it just picked up after we got this new wave of customers. Right as I was leaving, there's probably
about 60 people that walked in. So, it's starting to pick up. You know, I think people are spreading the word and social media, the power of it is is getting around. So, um, you know, we couldn't be more grateful. We're open again with the support of Washington Township. Um, and I at this point moving forward, my
commitment back to Washington Township is you head to the schools, the sports programs, donate, however we can work with the community. Um, you reach out everyone. I want everyone to know Bob Listister at Monster Miniolf. You can walk in, I'll be there every day. Um, come find me. Um, and if I'm not there
on site, just leave your information and I will get right back to you. But uh my biggest thing is working with the community and giving back. Um right now currently we hire we have 20 kids from Washington Township um hired as employees. Um so I think that's the first start. But the second start like I
said give working with the schools, working with local sports programs and anything else we can do within the community to make our our name known because I mean it works both ways. You know the more we're in the community more people know about us. It's pretty simple. Um it's not that crazy important. So you guys spread the word.
You know, you might be a little little group, but the power of a little group, it spreads fast. Um, so anything you guys can do to help support us, that would be fantastic. Um, I think that's it. I mean, that kind of covers everything, right? Abs. Now, what time of the opening on Saturday? When's the grand opening? So, the grand opening is
this Saturday at 12. Um, we're going to do a ribbon cutting uh ribbon cutting ceremony with the township at 11:00. Uh, but we are doing uh the first hundred guests are going to golf for free. Uh, and we are also giving away game cards and we are also giving away our biggest party package for free. So, someone will
win a free party um to be scheduled, you know, whatever is convenient for them. So, um, we don't have any parties scheduled as of right now. They're going to start Saturday. Um, so you could be the first one to book a party. U, but we're expecting, last time we did this in Cherry Hill, we had 300 people
wrapped around the building um, to get started. So, I hope it's the same outcome um, this Saturday. Uh, but we are open every day. Uh, we open during the summer. We're going to be opening at 12. Um, and we close during the week at 9:00. This Friday and Saturday we close at uh 10. Um, so we try to get closed,
keep it quiet, keep peace, keep everyone happy. Um, and that's it. Great. Any questions for me? Anyone? Any questions? Anybody? No. Looking forward to it. Yeah, we'll see you on Saturday. I thought it was interest, you know, let people know about it. We were all blown away today. It was It was awesome. I know Councilman Har's going to talk more
about it. He's got he's going to give us all the information. But yeah, looking forward to it. Thank you so much. The one thing I do want to leave on and I want everyone I I've told the you know the handful of people I know in town in the town um that if it was not for the commitment from this team, Anthony D.
Simone, the ladies in the office, we would not have gotten open. I mean, they were they worked with me and I worked with them side by side to make sure I was following all the rules and make sure that we got open and we did it. Um, we're the second largest I think Monster
Mini Golf uh in our 42 locations and I'm pretty sure this is the fastest opening. We we started construction three three months and a week ago and we're now registers are open which is unbelievable lightning speed. So for all incoming businesses, if anyone wants to come work
in Washington Township, just do right by the town, talk to the right people, follow the rules, they'll work with you. I mean it's that simple. Uh that was the commitment from the beginning and I'm going to I'm going to push for other businesses to open up and follow that and hopefully we can get, you know, more
businesses to come support and be in Washington Township because the love I've gotten since I've been here is unbelievable. So thanks. That literally goes back to the mayor. It really does. So thank you. Thanks Bob. Appreciate
that. All right. Thank you everyone on Saturday. We'll we'll be there, Bob. Trust me. Okay. Next, we have a presentation from Franko, the director of public works. Kind of give us some updates on what's going on with the trash. Frank, good evening, mayor. Good evening,
council. Um, good evening everyone. Uh, for those who many of you know me, but for those who don't, my name is Frank Almir. I'm director of municipal services. Um, and the anticipation has finally arrived. Um, so the new automated trash collection will begin
next Monday, uh, June 30th. All residents should have received the township provided carts, um, which is the trash recycling and yard waste carts. Uh, many of you have opted out of the yard waist carts. Um, if you would still like to opt out of the green yard
waste carts, you may go to our website, uh, click on the yard wastist link and fill out the short form, or you may call the municipal services public works office here, uh, and any one of my staff will be happy to assist you with that request. Uh, if anyone has not received
any specific cart or none at all, um, please call our office so we can rectify this issue. Uh we had a third party distributing the carts through this four to six week process. Uh we had close to 15,000 homes and uh 40,000 carts we had
to deliver. Um so we were left with a lot of the issues. Some people actually didn't receive carts. Some were mistakenly missed and what and have you. So, uh, I do have a small crew from our public works department, uh, currently
distributing the carts that weren't delivered to certain households, but, um, I ask that if you haven't received anything, we have a list, but just to double check, please call the office and we'll make sure we can get that cart before, uh, next week. Uh, we will be
updating our website and social media in the coming weeks for those of you who would like an additional cart. And the additional carts are $100, but that's for a 10-year lease. So, it ends up being $10 a year. Um, we will try to get those extra carts to those who request them as soon as we can, but we're
basically telling people two to four weeks. Um, and we all we always ask that, you know, to please be patient during this transition. Uh, we understand it's a change for our residents, uh, but it's also a change for our administration and our municipal services department. Thank you. Thank
you, Frank. One of the questions that a lot of people are asking is how do they get rid of their old cans? So, um, glad you asked. That's a good question. U, the old cans will be collected on their bulk days. Um, obviously this is the last week for bulk pickup weekly, right?
So, after next week, depending on your trash day, uh, it is going down to once a month and they will be that will be collected on Friday. So, for example, if your trash is on Monday, you will be the first Friday of the month. If your trash is collected on Tuesday, the bulk pickup
will be the second Friday of the month. Uh if your trash collection day is Wednesday or Friday, um it will be the third Friday of the month will be bulk only. And then Thursday's trash will be the fourth Friday of the month.
Great. And that'll go down once a month, but it's always on a Friday depending on your trash collection day. And residents can always call if they have any questions or anything along along the way. We have stuff on the website. We'll continue to release that information. Correct. So, getting to your question of the old cans. Yeah. That will be collected as a bulk item. Okay. On your
specific fry. Great. Great. And that would be we just asked that um the company asked that to be upside down so they don't distinguish that it's a can that you would like to keep and repurpose elsewhere, but any can that you want to throw away to please put it upside down uh at your curb. Great. Any
other questions from anybody here? All right. Thank you so much. Appreciate you. Thank you. All right. Moving on to the bill. Can I get a motion to approve the bill is list for June 25th, 2025. So move. A second.
Roll call, please. Councilman Jurus, yes. Councilman Harris. Yeah. Yes. Council vice. Yes. Brown. Didn't get to you yet. Council President Tempella. Yes. He's anxious.
date. Can I get a motion to approve the regular minutes from June 11th, 2025? Second. Roll call, please. Councilman Urkus, yes. Councilman Harris, yes. Council Vice President Brown, yes. Council President Deborello, yes. Okay,
moving on ordinances. Madam Cler, would you please read the ordinance? Ordinance 14. This ordinance is up for adoption after public hearing. Bond ordinance providing for various 2025 capital improvements by and in the Touchville, Washington in the county of Gloucester
state of New Jersey appropriating $535,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance of $58,250 bonds or notes of the township to finance part of cost thereof.
Okay. The mad clerk said this uh ordinance suffer for adoption after this public hearing. Can I get a motion to open to the public on ordinance 14, 2025? Motion. All in favor? Anyone from the public wishing to speak about this? Seeing none, can I get a motion to close? Motion.
Can I get a motion to adopt ordinance 14 2025? Motion. Second. Roll call, please. Councilman York, yes. Councilman Harris, yes. Council Vice President Brown, yes. Council President Deborola. Yes. Ordinance 15, ordinance amending chapter
11 of the code of the Townshipville, Washington entitled alcoholic beverages. This ordinance is for an introduction only. Public hearing and adoption will be held on July 16th, 2025. Can I get a motion to introduce ordinance 15, 2025? Motion. Second. Roll call, please.
Councilman York, yes. Councilman Harris, yes. Council Vice President Brown, yes. Council President Deborello. Yes. Moving on. Resolutions. The following resolutions are by consent agenda only. Require vote for all listed. Each one must be read by title. If any member of the council wish to have one removed and
read separately, please indicate prior to reading. Does anyone need anything moved read separately? Seeing none, madam clerk, would you please read the resolutions? Resolution 171, resolution appointing Eric Haven as part-time recycling inspector cocode enforcement
for the township of Washington. 172. Resolution appointing Barbara Moore as deputy cler municipal clerk for the township of Washington. 173. Resolution awarding a contract for the purchase of one 2025 Ford Maverick
W8B XL AWD Super Crew 121.1 WB 4.5 box for the Department of Public Works Source Cooperated Pricing System. It 74 resolution awarding a contract through the Camden County Educational
Services Cooperative to South Jersey Turf Consultants LLC for turf application and service for the Washington Township County House Soccer Field number four. 175 resolution requesting approval of revenue and appropriations from the
state of New Jersey for the NJ DP 2025 recycling tonnage grant in the amount of $94,34046 176 resolution requesting approval of revenue and appropriations from the state of New Jersey for 2025 clean communities grant in the amount of
$122,57. $784 177 re resolution requesting approval of revenue and appropriations from the state of New Jersey for 2025 operation helping hands grant in the amount of $1,000.
178 resolution authorizing refund of tax overpayments. 179 resolution cancelling taxes for a disabled veteran at 22 Ipsswitch Place effective May 7th, 2025.
180 resolution accepting a performance bond from Suburban Disposal Inc. 54 Monosano Road, Fairfield, New Jersey. Resolution 181, resolution authorizing a change order and accepting a maintenance guarantee from SDW Construction, Inc.
for Appaloosa Way erosion stabilization project. Resol 182, resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK Events Taco Palooa Festival in Washington Lake Park on July 12th, 2025.
183 Resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK Events Seafood Festival in Washington Lake Park on August 30th, 2025. 184 resolution approving a large gathering application for JMK events,
food truck, and music festival in Washington Lake Park on October 11th, 2025. 185 resolution approving the amusement park and gaming license from July 2025 to December 31st, 2025 for Polo
Turnersville, Turnerville, New Jersey. 186 Resolution approving the amusement parking games license from July 1st, 2025 to December 31st, 2025 for Monster Mini Golf, One Shoppers Lane, Turnerville.
187 Resolution to authorize the renewal of Whitman Diner Corporation liquor license for for 25 2026 year. Resolution to authorize the renewal of BGI SU LLC liquor license
for the year 20 25 2026 189 resolution awarding a contract through the Camden County Educational Services Cooperative to South Jersey Turf Consultants LLC for the services to the Washington Township County House
Soccer Field number one n resolution 190 resolution accepting engineering inspection escrow from Fred for Bella Vista Village, 200 Deli Drive, SUL. Resolution 191, resolution of the
Township Council, Township of Washington, County of Gloucester, State of New Jersey, committing to the fourth round housing plan element and fair share plan and authorizing the author and authorizing the to submit it to the ports and to the New Jersey Fair Housing
Act administration. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Can I get a motion to approve resolution R171-2025 to R1912025? Second. Roll call, please. Councilman, yes. Councilman Harris, yes. Council Vice President Brown, yes. Council
President Deborello, yes. Now, we're going to old business, new business, and reports. Let's start with Councilman Harris. What we got? Uh well, first of all, I'd like to uh thank uh Frank Alamiro for his uh continuous hard work during this transition. Um so, thank you for your
your words uh tonight, Frank. Um I want to talk about the Fourth of July parade. Uh that parade is actually on July 4th and that's going to be at 6:30 and we still have openings for any organizations or businesses that would like to be part of that parade. uh please feel free to reach out to me or
any of the councilmen that you have the contact information and we'll make sure that we get you uh the registration form and all the uh proper information that you'll need to help promote your business or organization. It's going to be a good time and we're hoping for great weather and right afterwards is going to be a spectacular fireworks show
if you're not aware uh that we do here in Washington Township. Um earlier today, uh myself and uh Mayor Mayor Delpia and Council President Delero had the honor of uh attending the grand opening for the Ronald McDonald
House uh inside Jefferson Hospital. And I think either one of those two gentlemen will elaborate on that a little bit further. Um and we met Bob Listister uh earlier tonight, but uh we were at his uh his location, Monster Golf. Very impressive.
And it's uh it's very impressive to see a new business uh that is um so happy and enthusiastic to be in our town. And you know, me being a a newer councilman in town, um his experience and his uh
vigor uh regarding how good his experience was with Washington Township and dealing with the mayor and and council and getting open um was uh it it was heartwarming, I guess, is the right word for it. Um hearing how happy
he was uh to open his business here in town. Uh it's a huge location. Um it's got great energy and he's really big on fundraising. So I recommend anyone who's uh going to be listening to this uh uh council meeting. Uh if you have an organization uh whether it's the schools or or sports and you're looking to do a
fundraiser, he's really anxious to uh to help out with that and help out with the community. So um again, very impressed with that uh with that business and I'm looking forward to seeing everybody uh on Fourth of July at 4th of July parade and fireworks. Thank you. That's all I have. Councilman Urkitz. Thank you. I
first wanted to start saying a very nice reception at Jefferson Hospital, the Ronald McDonald House. Um, one of a kind in the country uh for families and their children uh when one of the youngsters
has uh cancer treatment. And I want to give a special thank you to John and Kathy Duranti. They've been residents of the township their whole life and John has given back a lot of money. Uh you'll see his name at the entrance of the ER. Uh they were there today. Very generous
people and u it was a delight to be there and to see the contributions they've made back to their community. So a big shout out to John and Kathy. Thank you. Um, and just to piggyback on what Frank said, you cannot use your old cans
after Friday. Monday. Yeah. Monday the 30th, the new cans are going to into effect. People have asked me that time and time again. So, just repetitive. And one last thing, happy 249th birthday, America. Uh, July 4th will be 249 years
old. Can't wait to be 250. Um, but hope to see everyone at the parade. If you're not there, we're going to miss you. Yeah. Thank you. Great. Solicer Rooney. Uh, nothing new to report, Mr. Council President. Happy or at least I hope everyone's staying cool. Yes. Supposed
to break tonight. Yes. So, fingers fingers crossed. Okay. Mayor, thank you, Councilman. Uh, first I want to congratulate Eric Haven for being hired by the township. Uh, great guy, former police officer. I think he'll do a great job in that position. I want to
congratulate Barb on her reappoint. Um, anybody who's been to the clerk's office knows that office works very hard. Yeah. Starts with Chrissy out there, everybody else. So, Barb's an asset to our town. So, Barb, congratulations. You're stuck with us a little longer. Um, I want to touch on the Ronald Ronald McDonald
House as well. So, it was brought to our attention. It was open prior to CO, closed door in CO. They reopened it, remodeled it, but this is the first and only one in the world that's in the ER. everyone it's in the NICU or it's somewhere else in the hospital. This is
the only one in the world that they have one in the ER and it was pretty pretty amazing to be there. Uh Jenny from Jefferson gave us a tour after they brought us up to the roof got to walk in Hallelipad and if you never seen our town from seven stories up I got to tell you it's beautiful. U it was it was a
great view. So um thank you to Jefferson and wish them a lot of luck on there. Um also want to mention about our shred event that we had on June se June 14th. We had 412 vehicles come through that day. We collected 14,860 pounds of shred material, which is about
just under seven and a half tons. Um, at the end they had to turn some people away. They actually filled two trucks very quickly. Yeah. So, um, overall was very successful. Even though we had to turn some people away, I believe public works already reached out to possibly having a third truck on standby. Yeah. Um, but it was another great event by
public works. So, thank you for all you guys do. Really appreciate it. And the parade. So, come out to the parade if you can't be in it. Come out, support, enjoy it. Um, it's a great day with the festivities and it's capped off by a great firework display. So, thank you,
Vice President. Thank you, Mayor. Yes, we look forward to seeing everybody at the parade. It's always a good event in Washington Township. Uh, led by our emergency services and controlled by the police department. They do a fantastic job. Um, so we can't wait to see
everybody out there on the 4th and hope we get a lot more people interested to participate that night. From the library, um, the Hagen has summer reading programs for adults starting now
through August 31st. Uh, tomorrow night at 6 pm till 8:00 p.m. the open mic night as I mentioned last m or last meeting. And also on July 30th, they'll have uh touch a truck
night, uh library parking, lots of kids of all ages. Um for all the other events, please make sure you check out their website. And if you have an opportunity to go over and visit the library, um the staff is uh more than welcome to help and show you around.
Um, I had the pleasure after the last council meeting of attending the Wedgewood Women's Club with Mayor Delipia and council vice council president del uh delberelloo. Uh they were inducting their new officers for
this year and also they had a long-standing member of the club who served as president um officially retired. So, we want to shout out to her on her service to the women's club in Washington Township. Uh,
Roseanne Pier. Um, it was a good night and we met a lot of fantastic people from the township. Um, and as the season changes and we're going from hot to cold, cold to hot, um, remind
everybody to sign up for the Everbridge app. Um there could be messages that we have to push out to uh the public um especially in the extreme winter and we may have to use it for trash collection if there's uh a change in the schedule
or something like that. So the flyers are up there. Again, please pick up a flyer, use the QR code, and if you have any questions, um my contact information is on the web. Please feel free uh to reach out to me. That's it. Thank you.
Clerk anything. I just would like to say thank you for reappointing my right arm. Without her, we'd be nowhere. Yes. Congratulations. Definitely. Round of applause to Barb. Thank you. Couple things. I'm I'm going to piggy back. They They basically said
everything I was going to say here. We'll go back to the actually the the opening of the Ronald McDonald was awesome. So, thank you to Jenny and everybody who was there today. What just it was really beautiful. really just really really just to tour and to see what they're doing over there at Jefferson. The the technology and it was so listen, you don't want to be in the
hospital, but they're really trying to make your visit there and your stay there much better. Congratulations to the class of 2025. Yeah, that was that was awesome. Went to the high school graduation. So, congratulations to all those and all the parents. What a great event. The weather held out, so really was a beautiful event. Again, Monster
Goth this Saturday. So, Bob has invested over a million dollars into our town. He really believes. I mean, so he called up and he was on the phone with the mayor the next day. So if you have a business, you want to bring something to town, we are open for business. We want to talk to you, reach out to us. We'll do the
same thing with David Bob. We really want to get you here. There is so many great things that are coming. A lot of people ask about the black horse bike. It's changing. You if you have to look, it's changing. It does take time. There is a process, but we we're getting it done and there's a lot more great things coming. So we're looking forward to a
lot of big announcements. right now is the best of Gloucester County. That ends on July 25th. So go online, vote for the best business here in Washington Township. I think we had like 20 winners last year. So go on and and I believe it was just about 20. We we racked up a lot of awards for for the county. Uh thank
you to Chief Gerskin, all the officer for Pops uh uh Pops with a Cop. That was a a fun event and that we did in the park. That was really Chief did a great job as always and the officers kids had a lot of fun. My kids definitely did. We wore them out. So that that was a good thing. Congressman Norcross has a constituent service event coming up on
July 25th, I'm sorry, 21st and there's about a about a hundred local federal agencies there. I went last year. You get great information. I mean, anything that you're looking for from veteran services to food banks to anything that you're that you need is actually at that
event. We actually talked to him about maybe doing one here eventually. Obviously, he he's our congressman. So, it's right at Camden County at the college right there. So, if you're looking for great information from these agencies, they're all there. I mean, everyone from the state is there, so it's really a great event. Gets a lot of people and they give you just all the
information that that you're looking for. And I just want to close on also Barb. I mean, Barb, you're you're amazing. Thank you so much. Uh I I can't tell you enough how much I appreciate you. I appreciate working with everybody in here in the building, but Barb, you take my calls and you listen to me and
you're always there and I truly appreciate. So, uh having you on board this team obviously is is is is wonderful. So, okay, moving on. Let's move on to public participation. Please file the public forum posted which has been attached to the public agenda and limit your comments to 5 minutes. Once
you have completed your comments and questions, I'll I'll I'll ask if anyone a member of the governing body or there's any wishes to address your your comments or your questions. Can I get a motion open to the public? Motion. All in favor? Anyone from the public wishing to speak? Come on, please.
Yeah. Come come up here. All we need you to do is just state your name and your address for the record. My name is Just wait till the mic, please. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Try to stay calm. Yeah. Uh my name is Mary Francis Matalavage. I live on 21 Milburn Avenue in Grenlock.
I know you are all aware of the halfway house that they have put on our street. Okay. Go ahead. Now, this has changed the dynamics of our street. We have a very we're all very close-knit. One of
my neighbors is here. Um, a lot of children, widows, older people, and the like. Now, uh, we were sold that this was going to be a sober living. Now, we have found out and it's from a
very reputable site or uh, person. There is a sex offender living in there. Now, I can't imagine that they are putting a sex offender in with people who have substance problems.
And from the look of a lot of these people, they're questionable. Now, thankfully, we really haven't had any problem. And I thank the police chief because we have seen the police like we've never seen the police. And that thank God. let them know we're
keeping an eye, not only the residents, but the police are there keeping an eye on them. Now, the thing that worries me with this house is we have a sex offender. What else do we have in there? Are there violent criminals that are
felons or what paroleies, whatever they're considered at this point? Uh, you know, mental problems. The first week that someone lived there, they there was an accident at the end of our street that took out a pole and the transform. We had no electric for hours
that was a resident of that house. Things have changed. There's new ones have moved in. And we don't know. There's a cloud hanging over our street and actually the town because believe me, everybody knows. And it was once a
street of children playing all over and riding their bikes. You don't see it now. All you see, if you do see kids, they're walking with their parents. And that's Is that fair? Is that fair to the residents of our street to be so
intimidated by these people? And they there's a couple the It's all men. They sit out in front of the house. They stare at poor Ashley's house all they wonder all day long because I can see them perfectly and it just do they have more rights than the people
of our street? I mean that's the kind of questions that I really I have for you guys. It's is it fair to have this? And another thing is the man who bought that house, he also owns the house across the street which
is a rental. Is it possible that when if that man moves out the rental that they're going to move a whole another load of people in, you know, into that house?
And the it's just it's very scary and it really has affected our town in a big way. And I really would like if you can to keep an eye out for this Eric win and any kind of my next home LLC so that no
other town or other street has to have to put up with this or whatever you want. It has really made us very anxious and nervous and it it's scary. So I mean
I I guess that's really all I have to say. I don't. Is there a way we can find out what kind of people live in this house? Are we safe? Is it just substance abusers? We can deal with that. That's not a big deal. But is there an ex-murder in there, a
gang member? Are they going to bring their friends around? Cuz there's been a couple people that go there that and they hide their faces. You really don't get to see what they look like. And I I really don't think it's fair to our
town and to any town. So is there a way to find out who's like you don't even if it's not names but okay they people that have convict or have been convicted of these kind of crimes or if there's another sex offender moves in there will
we be notified because this was just by chance we found out this one. Right. So I would kind of Yeah. I was going to I was going to say listen Rooney I think this is more of a question for you. Um hello ma'am. Hi how are you? Um so um you raised a number of points um so I'll
just try to briefly impact unpack them here. Um you know first concerning the legal status or the history of anyone who allegedly may be living in that house. Um I think we all know that there are certain types of offenders that have
to register with the state. Um, but not but not all do. Um, so I know that's not a precise answer to your question. I know that. Um, but I mean that really that's what it boils down to. This township committee or council does not
control registration of offenders. You know, that's something that's regulated by the state and it depends on what we're talking about. For example, somebody who is accused or gets convicted of certain sexually related offenses may have to register. Now, this particular property you're talking about, I I don't know. I'm just simply
responding to your question. Taking a step back for a second, um again, I'd have to look into exactly the property you're talking about. The only thing that I can say generally is municipalities under New Jersey law have very broad authority to regulate land
use. Um, but when it comes to certain types of sober living facilities, there's a good amount of case law on this topic which limits a municipality's ability to exclude certain types of properties. That doesn't mean they don't have to abide by certain regulations.
They can't have, you know, 12oot grass, right? They can't violate local laws. Um, but depending upon what kind of house you're talking about, you just can't decide, hey, you know, that that can't be in this neighborhood. Now, I know I'm giving you very broad answers. I'm just trying to answer you as best I
can without getting into specifics because I'd have to evaluate the exact property you're talking about. But I I guess the answer unfortunately is it's it's complicated and it's facts sensitive. That was mine. I don't know if that's someone that had
a followup to my uh I thought I answering. Someone's watching. Yeah, maybe all the neighbors. Uh, but how about the the house across the street that is also a rental or whatever it is is could is it possible that they could
have two of those kind of homes on the same street? I mean, again, it depends how it's classified. I'd have to look at the property. Um, for example, you may have heard the term Oxford House. Oxford houses, if that's what we're talking about, they are uh still subject to
local rules um related to uh construction um maintenance, property maintenance. I used the example of grass before. Um but certain types of properties under that classification have certain protections from your emissive ability to create an exclusion,
right? Um so it's complicated. It's facts sensitive. It depends on what type of facility it is. So to give you a more precise answer, if council wants to direct me to look at something, I'm happy to take a look at it um and see if it's some way something's violative of
our local land use laws or certainly state laws. Um but um it it's complicated. Okay. So basically there's nothing we could do. Maybe you could build build a big wall around it or I I don't know. It just has really changed everything in
our in our neighborhood. Well, the only thing really has. The only thing I'll add is that um you know, if if you have concerns about public safety, as I said, um land use is one thing, but whoever lives at a particular property is still
subject to the local ordinances that we have on the books here as well, the laws of the state of New Jersey. absurdly if any resident um is made to feel unsafe, if they believe somebody is violating the law, harassing them or anything like that. Of course, I'm not saying that's happening here. I don't know anything
about the situation, but addressing your generalized concern. Um that's what we have a a very good police force for. You know, anybody should report um any crimes or suspected crimes. But beyond that, um I'd have to know more to give you more precise answers. It's the fear.
I think that the fear of the unknown, you know, it the kids, the parents, the widows, the older people. I mean, I'm no kid, you know. I It makes me nervous. My husband's working. It just it makes you nervous not knowing
what kind of people they are. And even if we knew, you know, had some, okay, well, he had drug offenses or this, so what? You know, that's alcohol. If you're out there beating up old ladies and raping little kids, we have a right to know that,
you know. So, right. And and again, I mean, strictly speaking, and I'm being very careful here, but I am the lawyer, right? So, we care about precision. I don't know which facility you're talking about. I don't know who's there. Um, many types of sex offenses, certainly violent sex offenses require somebody to
register with the state. So to your point, often times you can know where these people are because they have to they have to register. So the specific activity you're referring to, um that's something that the state has rules concerning. That's not anything that has anything directly to do with this
council or this governing body. One more question. Are these people permanent residents or is this going to be a big turnover all the time? Uh do you have any idea about that? I mean, how does that work? We know nothing about it. I I found out about the guy who owns a
place, but I don't know how these places work. I I think the best thing to do, Mr. Mr. Council President, is if this resident has concerns, um, you know, I can I can do the best I can to answer them offline after I have a little bit more information. Again, I apologize for
giving you generalities, but I don't want to mislead you. Um, these depending upon what type of institution are, some of them are more self-governing than others. They have different rules. Um, and again, many of the regulations, I'm sorry. No oversight. No oversight as
far. Well, again, it depends. I mean, depending upon which type of institution is, some of them are are fairly heavily regulated by the state. Mary, I'd like to add to it. You see Barbara sitting over here. If you can give her all your information, your address, and your phone number, and we'll be contacting you to have more conversations as well.
Okay. Let us do our due diligence a little bit more, and that way we can get back to you with some hopefully some solid information, right? just what's going on there and how long is this going to be there? Absolutely. Yeah, council president information. Can you just confirm it? Is is this on Milbour Avenue? Uh it's on the Milburn Milbour
and Lind Lyndon. Okay. Right on the corner. And ma'am, if I may just comment your concern about sex offenders is very um very concerning. Um, but sex offenders in the state of New Jersey are
required to register with the local police departments, which I'm sure um or hopefully that they've already done. Uh, there is penalties for non-registering, but there are also resources on the web uh through various different organizations and the New Jersey State
Police that you can go and see what type of offender they are. They're they're rated by tears. Um, so you can go on there and check to see what their tier is, but uh, police department registers
them. They're they're required, uh, very quickly when they move into town to register. So, and they do we do follow up on it quite extensively. Well, they have they're around and we have seen the police actually at there and parole officers. So that's what makes me the
think these aren't your run-of-the-mill drug addicts or alcoholics. You know, they're a little bit more advanced in their skills. So that's all it's huge concern. Thank you, Mary. Thank you for coming with with that all that. Like I said, please see Barbara and give her all that information. Okay. All right. Thank you.
Thank you, Mary. You ma'am. Anyone else wishing to speak? Seeing none, can I get a motion to close to the public? Motion. All in favor? Okay. Okay, we're going to go now though executive session regarding litigation and personnel. Can I get a motion to approve resolution R192-25?
So moved. Resolution uh resolution authorizing executive session. Second. Can I get a roll call, please? Councilman, yes. Councilman Harris, yes. Council Vice President Brown, yes. Council President Deborello, yes.
Um, yeah, perfect.