april 2nd 2025 regular planning board meetings called to order This advised that the notice of the time date location and to the extent known agenda the subject meeting was prominently posted in the public place reserved for such for similar announcements on March
25th 2025 Transmitted to the Times of Princeton packet in West Windsor and Plainsboro News on March 25th 2025 and filed with the township clerk on March 25th 2025 Chris please call the role Yes
Here [Music] Yes Yes Here Here We have a quorum Thank you At this time I'd like to open it up to
the public for public comments on any non-aggenda non-pending item Please step up the microphone state your name address for the record Okay nobody stepping up Next up is resol I'm sorry minutes
from October 16th looking for the next meeting which is going to be May 7th Okay Then I guess um the March 19th minutes not including the closed
sessions Any are there any um changes mods uh this Yeah um let it be known Mr Bay came in is here Any changes to the um the 19th
March 19th minutes these are the open session public session Uh seeing none I'll entertain a motion to approve the March 19th 2025 meeting minutes Second Moved by um Jica Second by the
mayor All in favor say I I Okay Uh one abstension by Allan And Sue is abstained Anisanis Yep And uh Allan
Yes Three abstensions Sue Annis and Allan Thank you Okay Next up resolution PB19-13 second amendment Senior living at their Jerry you want to um kind of summarize yeah Um this is the second
amendment to the previously approved project Mr Chairman a quick note Did you approve the close session minutes also for the number the close session minutes I do not have They're in your packets Oh I'm sorry Uh Jerry hold off please Sure
Um are there any changes i got I got the mayor gave me his copy I didn't have them in my copy on a packet I don't like um I'll entertain them Uh does anybody have any changes to the closed session not that we can make them here but
please don't uh announce them but say that you want to make a change Anybody no Okay I'll entertain a motion to approve the close session meeting minutes Moved by the mayor second by
Annis Um yeah you can you can you're in here I I'll second it Second by Curtis All in favor say I Um so we're going to have the same people Sue Annis and Allan are
abstaining Thank you Okay now Jerry Now uh PB19-13 second amendment Yes this is a part of our affordable housing plan And um we had previously approved a design for this uh for this the congregate care
portion of Bear Creek which is connected basically to the assisted living which is already built Um and they've come in for a couple of amendments the most recent one They wanted to upgrade the site as much as to design as much as they can emphasizing as they did that
the market has become very tough um for these kind of assisted living age restricted uh units Um so they came in with more parking There were a series of other uh suggested suggestions changes that they wanted to
make and they're all laid out uh on page four page four paragraph 12 of the resolution Uh there were two um waiverss that were necessary One was for tandem parking for the garages which I've now
proposed two garages to serving 12 cars each Um and also increasing the number of um parking spaces above what clearly would um be not not needed but they wanted to
make sure that they had enough spaces that uh potential residents would be attracted Um they also did some redesign to the buildings There is now underground parking uh under the under the main building And that kind of pretty much is a summary of the uh the
resolution Okay Anybody have any changes or clarifications on the resolution that need to be uh brought up nope Okay Then I'll um I'll entertain a motion to approve
resolution PB19-13 second amendment senior living at Bear Creek Moved by Jordica Second by second Second by the mayor Please call the role Mr Patel Yes Mr Lavaro Yes Mr Shaktel Yes Mr B
Miss Bar Yes Miss Ale Stay Mayor Actually I have to have window So you're up to Sue abstained Annis has abstained Annis was there Okay I'm sorry Anna said
yeah He said yes You said yes Rob is going to abstain Miss Bar Yes Mr Shaktel and Mr Patel was yes right vice Chairman Hoverberman abstain
and chairman cart Yes Okay Resolution uh is approved Oh Mayor Mart sorry Okay And I wasn't You were there I wasn't Okay Um one note before we move
on Um for the close session meeting minutes don't leave them out here Oh where do you want them back in your yellow folder Just give them give them to you or put them back in the folder Okay So don't just don't leave them out Just 19 I was here March 19th
March 19 minutes for February 19 and under that was uh yeah yeah but you weren't here on March 19th when we approved the meeting minutes right we were here on February
19th right but that resolution is adopting uh the approval from February 19th so you could vote on the resolution right okay Sam here When the cases are settled it will be public All cases are settled Yes
Okay Okay So ne next up is the um master plan public hearing adoption of an amendment to land use plan element RP9 district and adoption of amendment to Prince and Junction redevelopment plan RP9 district Okay I suppose that's me Good evening
everybody Do you want to Sam do you want to put on the record that got notice is my office uh posted the um minutes or the uh master plan revisions on the website We also uh sent copies to the county planning director
and the state advocacy group and the surrounding clerks were notified of this hearing tonight and al also received copies of the documents Thank you And I should probably get sworn in right uh yeah we should It's formal
hearing Um do you swear affirm the testimony about to give me the truth i do So smart Good evening everybody My name is David Novak NOVAK for the record with Burgess Associates the township planning consultant Tonight we'll be talking about uh a couple of documents Uh the first would be the RP9 land use
plan amendment dated March 11th 2025 and then uh not so coincidentally named the RP redevelopment plan amendment also dated March 11th 2025 Uh I will start with the land use plan amendment
Um essentially what this document is is an amendment that would supplement the burrows sorry the township's 2020 land use plan element of the master plan Um I've given this spiel many times before but essentially what a master plan is as
this board knows is a comprehensive long-term strategic document which is intend to guide the growth and development of a community So I think about it as a road map It lays out where a community currently is and where it wishes to go in the future Uh master plan is responsible for developing the
general parameters around where development is supposed to occur and at what intensity and at what uses Um this is a land use plan amendment uh as I mentioned will supplement our 2020 land use plan and is very specifically
concentrated on a small portion of the township specifically uh near the intersection of Princeton Heightstown Road and Wallace Road Uh this is the site that is the bus depot site essentially Um the reason for this is because the
township has also prepared a redevelopment plan and accompanying ordinance And what we always like to make sure is that our master planning documents and our redevelopment plans and our zoning ordinances are all synced together so that way they're consistent with one another So the purpose of this land use plan amendment is to
essentially set the stage for the redevelopment plan which we'll be discussing next This land use plan amendment proposes to take the existing land use category of these three properties which for the record are identified as
block 59 lots one 2 and three uh and proposes to change the language regarding the land use category for that So right now the site pursuant to our 2020 land use plan is located in the RP9
Princeton Junction Reeval Plan District Well that name is not going to change However the text associated with that will change Uh when you read the text that is right now associated with the vision of the RP9 district it is a little bit open-ended Um it discusses
that the RP9 district's intent is to convert the former bus depot site into an area that would better serve the public consisting of commuter parking for the Princeton Junction train station adjacent to a public park Um oh I'm sorry that was the that's what we're proposing The existing language says
that the uh intent of this is to convert the existing bus depot into an area that would better serve the public which would consist of a public park mirroring the PNC corner park with land set aside for Wallace road improvements as well as a pedestrian and bicycle access to a crossing of the rail line at the
Princeton Heightstown Road Bridge That's what the existing language says And then the bulk standards in that section are very open-ended basically sets exist subject to a uh redevelopers agreement The amended language is a little bit more specific Uh it's still looking to
convert the former bus depot site uh but looking to convert it into an area that would better serve the public consisting of commuter parking for the Princeton Junction train station adjacent to a public parking mirroring for the PNC corner park on township land set aside for Wallace Road and Princeton
Heightstown Road improvements Uh it's also envisioned that in order to promote a more efficient use of land to have some sort of shared parking arrangement be permitted Uh finally it's anticipated that the subject site can also be utilized as a gathering event for uh
community functions including but not limited to food trucks swap meets flea markets and art showings So essentially this amended master plan language is looking to um establish commuter parking at this site that when that parking is not being
utilized can also be utilized for community events such as food trucks or swap meets or flea markets and art showings and it still keeps that vision of having that park that would mirror the PNC park So that is essentially the
crux of this draft land use plan amendment Um it's very narrow in focus It focus is solely on this site and it essentially sets the stage for a redevelopment plan which we'll be discussing next I banged my hands on a table No I think it was something that was brought to us by the parking authority Right yeah park
authorities working with the township council to a new developers agreement The parking authority will remove the building that's there There's contamination under site They're looking for grants to mitigate that and then they will be coming in front of the
planning board with you They will be willing to final approval So within the next month or two with their concept plan showing how we're going to lay out the parking how we're going to develop this the site the parking all the amenities that are I
mean I I had a feeling that's what was about Yeah No I mean we've been trying to do something about the sites for a long time The buses were kicked up so and nothing worked How many
years have the buses been away from that site 20 years At least before 1985 1985 1985 is when public works was there They left in 1985 Okay And then the town leased it to the school district and they had their buses there It's probably
got a good 15 years since they Okay Yeah Because it's been a while And they keep 40 Okay What about across the street what's going on with that center no on on the west side of the tracks Yeah
Oh okay Once they finish the clean up they're going to put it up for sale That's a big That's a big site for two of the buildings That's probably so I'll ask a similar question to Michael's Is there any uh another
adjacent property the power station is there uh is there any future in the power station there generates power no no but I meant I meant Is it I mean No I know but but I'm wondering I thought at one point in time with the redevelopment
that that was going to go away No I don't see that I don't see that way That's that's That's that's still there and it still serves Yeah that would be very enlightening use They actually paint very well I said enlightening use and
nobody laughs Um the other thing I just want to bring up too I'm sorry is uh the county is in the process of preparing um plans for Princeton Heights Road that bridge crossing the train tracks Uh and that will include better pedestrian connectivity So I just wanted to throw that in because our land use plan
currently talks about pedestrian connectivity from this site across the bridge Uh the county however is preparing plans that will hopefully improve pedestrian connectivity across that bridge um or on the bridge across the railway as well So I just wanted replacement of such bridge or just I
think there's a lot two things right outside the door you can see the plans on what the county is going to do the junction but does the bridge in it and then the state is going to be replacing that bridge right state road the county road that's
that's That will be 2031 of a mile I remember that for the transportation Be alive at that time 2030 2031 Maybe not Michael you'll still be chair I guess I'll still be a chair
No you haven't heard anything from them Just hoping they don't close electricity right can't get over really what they like fencing or landscaping It's very very nice fencing
walls and the shrubbery It's It's worth taking the taking photo What was it again it's Route 31 and now we're okay The west side But can't we sink it stink it underground and build on top of it
well that's the way Oh should I do that now uh sorry have uh David finish on the redevelopment please questions So the the next area so as I mentioned this is also setting the stage for a redevelopment plan Um and this would be an amendment to the princing
junction redevelopment plan Again keeping that RP9 district still intact but changing the permitted uses there So we are essentially establishing a purpose of this district that would mirror the language in the Langy's plan amendment which is again to convert that
bus depot site into an area which would better serve the public consisting of commuter parking for the Princeton junction train station adjacent to a public park mirroring the PNC corner on a park on Patrick land set aside for Wallace Road and Princ Heisttown Road and then again uh allowing for a shared
parking arrangement on the site as well as permitting the site to be util utilize as a gathering space for community functions including but not limited to food trucks swap meets and flea markets and art showings So we do establish a number of permitted uses within the district to help meet that
intent Uh public park uses um mechanisms intended to screen or enhance visual attraction of the power station That's actually a use that's currently in that district right now uh off streetet parking training facilities for public transportation providers because again the uh parking authority will be
establishing this in the we'll call it the first twothirds of the site in the very back there's still a training facility which is still active so that's not necessarily going away right now Uh monument signage would also be established as a permitted principal use as well as street furnishings planters
street lights and exterior garden type shade structures like gazeos Um the district establishes a fairly high maximum improvement coverage of 90% That's higher than our typical redevelopment districts However it's important to keep in mind that this is
essentially establishing a parking area Um we based the parking and circulation aisle setbacks based on a concept plan that was prepared That concept plan will eventually be presented to the planning board for a courtesy review Uh from Wallace Road there's a setback of about
18 ft That's where you'll be able to get your most landscaping Uh from Princeton Heightstown Road it's a setback of 2 feet That seems very narrow However you have to remember that that roadway is being expanded and there's also quite the slope that goes up there too So um it will be still relatively buffered
from that roadway Um from all other district boundary lines a minimum setback of 5T And uh we also allow for improvements to extend into the remaining Old Washington Road rightway which extends through the site And we also established some guidelines for
landscaping Uh so the developer will be responsible for providing and constructing at their cost a public park which is going to mirror that PNC corner park and township land again set aside on Wallace Road at Princeton Heights Downtown Road Uh based on our estimates that public park will comprise a minimum
area of 6,000 square feet and it needs to include at least a shade structure such as gazebo but it could be any type of shade structure uh a seating area and we establish at least four picnic tables and chairs are similar pertinances and uh also street furnishings such as
planters refugees containers and decorative thematic lighting shall be provided So making sure that uh that park is going to have seating areas for the Princeton Junction corridor as that area continues to get developed having that outdoor amenity space for people to be able to utilize or for commuters that
are using that parking lot that may not want to rush home right away maybe enjoy a snack or something outside of the area Um we're also allowing for monument signage Those standards for the most part are monument sign standards established in other districts
uh and creating a uh allowance for shared parking arrangements for a uh future redevelopment district Um that uh may be in the works as well Um should the board adopt the Lis plan
amendment this plan would be consistent with that Lis plan amendment as well Um and that is uh essentially it as a a brief overview of this redevelopment plan amendment Just a question Can you describe the financial aspect of
the site like who owns the land like what's the re how's the revenues going to the town well the township owns the land Okay Township I believe agreement will work We we are trying to work that out because the township is
eligible to get because it's contaminated township is eligible to get reimbursement from the state if we clean it up Okay So depending on how much reimbursement we get uh we will make a deal with the uh parking authority uh so
that it's not going to be a huge revenue generator Main aim is to make that area look nice right but but if you have an area that's kind of semi getting developed you know we want a positive
cash flow for the town Yeah Yeah So whatever I mean whatever it is it is it is Yeah It's going to be similar to one one drive lot it's going to be on similar ground But once we get a better idea of all the finances we will work
out the nature of them What type of contamination means the contamination what type what contamination is there i believe the contamination comes from property across the street from the
old um dry cleaners that used to be on the Ellsworth site It's leeched underground under the road Why aren't they paying for it excuse me Why aren't they not paying for red mediation you know like I don't one of those details it's really evil from friends
to town as the those who are floating right now I mean when it goes underground I mean he the dry cleaner closed he sold the building to elsewhere it's gone uh so when it's underground it's very tough to where it's coming
from over the over the years and who knows how many years it's gone Okay So my question is going in a whole different direction Um is there vehic on this on this tract is there going to be vehicular access from Wallace Road i
believe it would solely be from Wallace Road Oh here's my point Uh the Wallace Road frontage is only 70 ft and it's 70 feet from the Princeton Heightstown Road Mhm How close to the intersection can you have
an entry into uh a property like this you certainly don't want it that close Um unfortunately I don't have the concept plan scaled out I believe based we did have some preliminary TRC meetings on this when they had submitted concept Um and I believe that that was one of the
comments that was brought up to move and shift that driveway further away So I believe that had been reviewed by um by our traffic Yes The TRC has met with parking authority on numerous occasions before we got to this point The township council and they are wanted to know how
parking spaces would be there what they look like So they have all of that parking authority will be submitting their plans to the TRC once and TRC can deal with that issue with the appropriate time Yeah No but that was that was a very important thing that was brought up I believe right away even in
terms of how the driveway you know would kind of release on the wild road as well King cars back up onto um all the way to Washington Prince Einstein Road And no it would be more it would be a solely on Wallace Road and it would be essentially a let me get my clockwise right here That's a digital clock It'd be a
counterclockwise Um there's no Isn't there an entrance when right off Princeton High Road you make a left and then a right into the site you would make if you're heading westbound on 571 you make a left on Wallace and immediate right Yeah Let's say cars are right by the
entrance way Won't it back up uh I don't think it will The reason being is there's a lot of circulation aisle So so it's wide It's very wide So so cars can go around or it just seems like No no And when I say it's a lot of
circulation aisle I mean more linear length right so it it you when you filter in um you will be making a right into the site yielding right and then it's a um linear path going up with parking spaces along either side Okay
Yeah it's going to be a oneway But what about what about food trucks or whatever is going to be at kind of like where those are going to be near this entrance or like Oh I would imagine if there's a community event there that would essentially be closed off except for those food trucks or something like that
People have to walk in today Yes Yeah All that spell out with the township council My understanding of speaking groups had a parking authority is that the parking lot would only be used for commuters Monday through Friday and Saturday It wouldn't be that would allow
food trucks and other public events to take place And the main reason for the food trucks and the um picnic area so to speak is uh we have a lot of apartments both retail on the east side of 571 So those folks opportunity to
have a place to come out shopping and eating in the restaurants have take out an area to go and then also when the food trucks are there you could walk over to the pick areas right or you could let's say you park in the Wallace road lot it's free on the weekends and you walk walk around go to the public
square and then go to the food trucks bring your food from the food trucks over to the public square and it also gives folks who are coming to the restaurants on the side of the to be able to talk there and walk over if there isn't sufficient partner elsewhere Um I'm sure TRC will deal with it but I
I hope there's provisions for shading because you know in the heat of summer that's not going to be a very pleasant space at all There's a plan I keep calling it a gazebo but it's it's it's a shelter shelter Okay Okay Okay that's great Thank you And they will have to submit a landscaping plan Yeah Right Is that Chinese food
restaurant still there in that house i believe so Man did they lock out huh you're still there still in a home Same owners Which which building we talking it's across the beach Oh right No no it's Friends Friendly on the on the other side Asian
Yeah By uh Yeah Yeah Yeah By the station Asian Beach Yeah they're they're still there Yeah Korean It's a Korean uh they they hung on and seems like they hit the jackpot Uh Dave a document issue
Document issue Yes Page seven of the redevelopment plan amendment 2.3 Yep Error reference source not found Oh look at that Um I'm going to blame Microsoft Word for that You see what I'm saying yep I see exactly what you're
saying The link didn't work Yeah the link didn't work Same thing happens to me occasionally Okay I would just indicate that in your discussion with the uh parking authority when they come in that you really should
take a look at that substation um in Pennington and see if any of those elements could be incorporated because got to tell you I've been around for a long time and this is the nasiest thing I've ever seen It is uh not the nicest looking substation I've seen either Um keep in mind too the substation isn't
part of I know but in terms of in terms of a buffer you could actually learn from run along that one uh one boundary with it and that would do a lot to break up the view of it from the highway from Wallace Road Yeah we can keep that we
can definitely keep that in mind during the TRC process like especially along here and along there too Yeah Yep Anybody else anybody um yep Okay At this time I would
like to open up to the public for any comments on the the uh land use element and the redevelopment plan for the RP9 district Please step up the microphone and say your name and address for the record Good evening Ann Clifton 18 Gston Drive
Yeah And and I'm going to if you could raise your right hand Do you swear or affirm the testimony about the truth yes I do Affirm Thank you Thank you So I'm speaking for the West Windsor Bicycle and Pedestrian Alliance Trustees of the West Windsor Bicycle and Pedestrian
Alliance do not believe that additional parking for the train station is necessary Today in the middle of the work week between 1:30 and 2 p.m there was no shortage of parking Only about 100 cars were parked in the lower Vaughn lot and 57 cars in the unpaved Alexander
lot Adding more train station parking spaces at the RP9 district will lead to more conflicts for motorists bicyclists and pedestrians on Wallace Road during peak commuting hours creating more opportunities for collisions Why add to
the chaos that already exists as it is now drivers routinely wait or park in the bike lane during the evening rush hour a situation that one of our board members who couldn't attend tonight experiences when he bikes into Princeton after work on Tuesdays and
Thursdays So the our alliance is not in a position to recommend alternative uses for the RP9 district Um however we suggest you know seeking input from others in the community in particular from small business owners Thank you You Thank you
Um do we want to address why we're putting park in there i I know what the answer is but I want to Yeah I know Sam and I probably met with so many people there trying to do something uh and nothing has worked out
and nothing even went into first place Forget about somebody that site is very constrained as this thing and I don't think too many people will park there during the week these days but in weekends if they really do get a
food trucks and stuff that will be a that will become a nice place for the community to gather right so so what I'm hearing is and and I think it helps with the remediation right right now my understanding is the
available available it's public use on the property about if it's private use the town to sell that property any developer have to take care of whatever using whatever they have and also there's a right way through the property
gain access to the back that facility okay so that also concerns so so a couple things I'm just going to summarize here the property is constrained the parking situation allows for public use And also does um because
it's covered it's it remediates the site right it's basically capping the site It's capping the site Three I hear that and I I definitely agree because I used to park there I don't think anybody's going to park there right because it's
further away from the daily lot right to get to the you know the platform of the train station right even the Wallace roadwalk my permit is mostly empty you know where I had a seven-year wait when
I first uh came came to town So I I I I hear the public's you know view but um if we could find something else like the mayor was saying he was going to try to find they would try and find something but I think it's just
going to be paved but there's not going to be any cars there is what I think And I would just add one more thing too What this redevelopment plan would allow for is a shared parking arrangement with the elsewhere center So if you remember a couple months ago or maybe it was last
year memory of time is gone but uh there was a concept plan presentation to add additional units there and obviously the big concerning sector is always parking where that's I remember saying that the market will dictate
right and if they don't have enough parking guess what people are not going to rent and this might be we don't have to go back to the minutes for that I remember saying that and this might be a potential potential overflow should that be you know an issue um this would allow
for a shared parking arrangement with that site so okay so just trying to utilize land most efficiently as we can So obviously not parking lot not the most excit exciting use Where are we going to put the snow that's why I want to know where the snow is going to go
That'll be a question Yep Okay It'll be on the Amtrak property But there conversation one time about a tunnel going under there with the people that walk back and forth That happened
No that was they were going to widen the tunnel I don't remember an application not remember like in the late 80s early 90s they're just talking but under the bridge so the people but not there could get to that
area over where we probably next to the Asian beastro over that on the other side of the track between the tracks and the but there wasn't sufficient space there so were those conversations that Sue is
alluding to prior to the uh reconstruction of the the station uh house the the main NJ transit station there It was after because that they added a tunnel at that point It was after that but before the bridge
junction redevelopment plan you remember you were on the zoning up to remember when you had the overlay zone in Bridging Junction It it was discussion during that time Okay I I remember a discussion where they were the existing tunnel is going to be widened and maybe
lease out store commercial space I do know that the parking authority has hired their engineering consultant to take a look at it because I know there's water issues in the tunnels So there was one one year I don't it was several years ago where the water was almost up
to the ceiling I remember seen those pictures Yeah Not the railroad Yeah I hear what you're saying not that they general for the crossing from the west to east on the north of
the west of the okay one one conversation at a time I'm sorry collection commuting okay long time ago that they planning a tunnel walking tunnel of course to cross the track of west side of this of the main
station okay because this This all on the east side Okay So that is some people when I used to walk walk I have to walk a long distance from the front of the train But that's what they're planning at that time I remember Oh near the front Yeah I think I remember too
I'm sorry No I just think if there was a way for people to get through there those people from elsewhere are going to use that parking But if they have to cross they're not going to use it unless that's the only parking available
because they don't have enough space Clearly pedestrian crossing Yeah But people come over that bridge It's dangerous People come over that bridge Even developing on site Yeah another detriment to that area I think
well it is an eyes sore So I guess any improvement maybe something should be done I don't think it's going to generate a lot of traffic I mean it'll be walking traffic I think if anything it just worries me to increase pedestrian access to that site if there was another use
Well they may have to change the signal there Put a um pedestrian like flash there If everybody watches coming over the br coming back from uh Washington Road over the bridge and
then it's a little [Music] tough Oh sorry battery identify large wait two section I I don't know which one
labeling it's labeling oh yeah I can do that yeah so I scroll to it I can label those in both doc process would be if the board was in time to approve these changes The next thing staff would do with department ordinance to implement these
changes in the council and then that would be referred back Make sure that these changes have been done authority application as courtesy
That's a courtesy We can't require anything of that Correct Request just parking over there just like the school district comes in Well I I think I remember someone came
up with an idea of hanging aliens from those uh electro stansions So this is definitely a better idea Yeah another you know section five that is missing in your this document Oh it goes from section four to section
that is missing Yep And section 5.1 5.1 is not there No it just it jumps from um the labeling got screwed up I can fix that as well So it should go from 4.1 to 4.2 to 4.3 and then to section five and then section six
I got overzealous with my session numbering Anybody have any other comments issues right here any any other additions comments changes amendments um anybody
okay then I will um I want I'll entertain I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to do the I guess I'll do these together right yeah Adoption of amendment to land use I'll entertain a motion to accept the adoption amendment
to land use element RP9 district and the prince and redevelopment plan for RP9 district as amended discussed and commented on and ch and any changes So moved by Anna second by Allan Please call the role Mr Patel
Mr Sheektel yes Mr B yes Miss Barie yes Miss Applegate yes Councilman Whitfield yes Mayor Marte yes Vice Chairman Hobberman yes Chairman Cart yes
Thank you guys very much So I do have a I do have a follow-up question Okay uh the land use plan element page four it's not about the stuff it's about the whole um uh David very uh nicely put
out the full uh elements uh schedule and what's action on them and uh my question is um uh storm water management plan is that coming before us in year 25 David So okay
Yes So okay And um uh with with what's going on with the the affordable housing are we going to then at some point revisit housing element and fair share plan
meeting It'll be a joint meeting like last night Okay Um two separate meetings My my final question on these type of issues is uh to our master plan there's an introduction and there's a goals policies and summary that hasn't been
looked at in 23 years Is that correct yes and no Um so every time we adopt these uh master plan elements for example like the land use plan uh the housing element and fair share plans circulation plan utilities plan we always have goals and
policies list in the beginning once we get all these documents adopted and really our next hit list would be the housing element fair share plan and the storm water management plan We would go back and adopt the introduction and redo the introduction and the goals and policy summary and essentially reiterate
those goals and policies in that document We can do it now We just have to update it That's fine I I just I just didn't want it to be forgotten That's that's all I got Oh that's only three years away I might win the lottery by then So we'll
see So Sam the next Sam the next meeting next meeting is May 9th May 7th May 7th meeting is May 7th and it's going to be the subdivision inside checklist Remember we had our work session here Y
changes were made It'll be introduced Monday night in council It'll be referred back for May 7 Are we having a May 21st meeting or we don't not sure yet um tentative probably be here but
tentatively I want to hold up the so they feel they can have concept plan Okay I think I'm'll make that meeting but the June meeting if there's a meeting beginning of June I won't make
that June 4th right now Okay I probably Well I definitely will not be available There's no other meeting That makes sense Should we go into close session again so okay anybody
anything okay meeting it uh motion closes the public hearing and motion close the public hearing move all in favor say I I meeting so I know So what's our number right now
our number is 48 not 16