I guess I could start the meeting since there was no chair of any event. >> I'd like to call to order the January 21st, 2026 reorganization meeting of the West Windsor Township Planning Board. This is to advise that the notice of the time, date, location, and to the extent
known agenda of the subject meeting was prominently posted in the public place re reserved for such or similar announcements on January 7th, 2026 and transmitted to the times, the Princon packet and the West Windsor planes were in news on January 7th, 2026 and filed
with the township clerk on January 7th, 2026. Uh before we do the roll call, we have four reappoints to the board. They need to be sworn in. Those are Jodi Gabari who is not here. Curtis Hobberman, class
4, his appointment would run to January 14th, 2030. Uh Mr. Patel, who's an alternate 2, will be January 14th, 2028. And Honest Beg, who is a class 4, his appointment will go to January 14th, 2030. Um I provided the certifications
through the board of Attorney. We're >> what I'm going to do is I'm going to pass back to um Ankai um Curtis and Annis the oath of office and ask you one after you you know to raise your right hand I'll raise my right hand and then
you'll read it okay let me give let me give you I'll give you that me and you can you can do it in whatever order you want you want you want >> I always take notes standing up I'm
sorry >> okay hand. >> Yeah, if you could >> I agree. >> If you could raise your right hand. Why don't we start with Curtis? Raise your right hand. And Curtis, if you can read the oath of office. >> I, Curtis Hobberman, do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of
the United States and the Constitution of the State of Interior League and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and in this state under the authority of the people. I do solemnly swear that I will
faithfully, impartially, and justly perform all the duties of the office of planning board class 4 according to the best of my ability. So help me God. So congratulation and
>> I Anise B do swear that I will support the constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and in this state under the
authority of the people. I do further solely, solemnly swear that I will faithfully, impartially, and justly perform all the duties of the office of class four member on the Islamic board according to best of my ability to help
me go. >> So, congratulations. >> Yes. Hi, I'm Sage Patel who solemnly swear that I will support the constitution of the United States and it is about constitution of the state of the university and I true faith and
allegiance to the same and to the government established in the United States in this state under the authority of the people. I do further solely swear that I will faithfully impartially and just perform all duties of the office of
order and prove on the work according to the best of my civilians to the health. >> So so congratulations if you could pass yours down also and I just have to roll in but I'll do that during I will do that during the meeting. So we're finished with that part and the next
will be >> roll call. Members secretary could call roll. >> Mr. Patel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Lavara. >> Yes. >> Mr. Shaktel. >> Yes. >> Mr. Pankov. >> Yes.
>> Mr. Vague. >> Yes. >> Miss Bar. >> Miss Africa. >> Miss Jvers. >> Here. >> Mayor Marte. Yes. Vice Chairman Herman >> here. Chairman Carr >> here. Yes.
>> Right. Now, the first order of business will be the uh votes for the chair and vice chair. We'll do that separately. First, we'll have Let me accept nominations for the chair. >> I nominate uh Michael Karp to serve as chair of the planning board of
Westminster Township for calendar year 2026. >> Second. >> Thank you. Do I hear any other nominations? Okay, we can have a vote on that. Let's do a roll call vote. >> Mr. Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Lavaro,
>> yes. >> Mr. Shaktel, >> yes. >> Mr. Panco, >> yes. >> Mr. B, >> yes. >> Miss Jvers, >> yes. >> Mayor Marquez, >> yes. >> Vice Chairman, >> yes. >> Chairman Park, >> yes.
>> Congratulations. >> Welcome, Michael. I I I miss you so much. >> Thank you. I miss you so much. G >> bang it just for us. Just >> just bang it by. >> Oh, sure.
>> Okay. Um I would I would like to start it out by nominating my um vice chair who's done a great job for the last couple years, Curtis Hman. >> Second. >> There a second. Second. Uh, please call
the RO. >> Mr. Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Lavaro, >> yes. >> Mr. Shaktau, >> yes. >> Mr. Panco, >> yes. >> Mr. B, >> yes. >> Miss Jvers, >> yes. >> Mayor Marte, >> yes. >> Vice Chairman Hobberman,
>> yes. >> Chairman Park, >> yes. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Okay, >> I forgot >> there is representative. >> Oh, >> change it to super. Look at this. Okay.
>> It says that's >> It's not on the agenda. >> It there isn't and we're I'll got it. >> Um Okay. At this time, I'd like to open it up to the public.
>> Selection of secretaries and minister. Sorry. I have the wrong uh here. This is Nick. This is I'm reading. We've left the agendas for February 4th, but you should have >> and I don't have I don't have
>> Take my team. >> Okay. >> Rein the chairmanship here. >> You may have >> Let's think about this. >> I've got his back. I've got his back. >> He's ready to jump in. >> I've got your back, Michael. >> It's usually in my package. It's not Okay. No big deal.
Okay. Um >> number six under the organization. >> Okay. Selection administrative secretary. I nominate Lisa Kjadi the nomination or is it just of appointment? >> Voice vote. Favor.
>> All um all in favor say I. >> I. >> Congratulations. Congratulations. You have to work late nights now. >> Okay. Um, go ahead, Jay. >> This is This is a consent agenda
>> when we get to the consent agenda. Yes. >> What? One more organization. Yep. So, great. >> Okay. Um, selection of recording secretary Tricia Van Cleap. Is it Van Cleap or Van Cle? Van Cle. >> Okay, I got it right. Van Cleap.
All in favor say I. >> I. >> Congratulations. >> Um I'd like to um resolution for adopting planning board procedural guidelines for 2026 PB
2026R-1. Do >> I hear um a motion to uh >> move Mr. Chairman? I think there needs to be one collection on page two, item J2. There no longer is an affordable housing representative.
>> Do you have that? >> Who has the document to make the amendment? Okay, you're going to make amendment. >> There it is. >> Yeah. Any other changes? Amendments. >> Yeah. No, I'm just telling.
>> Okay. >> Sam, any other changes? Amendments to the resolution? >> None. >> Okay. So I'll entertain a motion to uh adopt any board procedure guidelines 2026 with the amendments uh stated.
>> So move Mr. Chair was by Simon second please go row please by name >> and and you have oh wait um C C3 on page four. So the the affordable housing >> just knows to strike the affordable housing
name from all throughout the document. >> Yep. Okay. Please call the role for the adoption of planning board procedural guidelines for 2026. >> Mr. Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Lavaro, >> yes. >> Mr. Shaktel, >> yes. >> Mr. Panco,
>> yes. >> Mr. B, >> yes. >> Miss Jvers, >> yes. >> Mayor Marte, >> yes. >> Vice Chairman, >> yes. >> Chairman Carr, >> yes. >> Okay. So, the next item number six, consent agenda. There's uh A through I.
I'm going to read those off and we're going to vote on all of them at one time. >> Right. >> Unless somebody wants to remove one from the consent agenda. >> Right. Well, I'm going to read off the the different items from the consent agenda and then we're going to vote together. So, in the consent agenda,
item A, declaration of official and other newspapers received meeting notices, the Trenton Times and the Princeton packet PB26-R2. Letter B, resolution setting forth regular meetings first and third Wednesday of each month PB26-R3.
Letter C, authorization for chair or vice chair to approve bills and vouchers. Item D, traffic safety officer Sergeant Walter Silcox. E by fire marshal Tim Lynch. Item F, landscape
architect, Burgess and Associates, Edward Sneakus, PBLLA, ASLA, Planning Board Engineer, Brand Gusk, Planning Board attorney, Law Offices of Muller and Bailey, PC, Dermo, Esquire. Item I,
environmental engineer, the block engineering associates, Chris Jeepson. Item J, traffic engineer, Aurora. Is it is it Aurora or I think it's missing >> Aurora. Aurora >> A R O R A. >> Yeah, you got it right. >> Is it spelled correctly? I thought it
was a U. Okay. Cheng Aurora and Associates Quasi Massud. Item K, planner Burgess and Associates David Novak. Item L, planning board noise and air engineer
GZA Geo Environmental Inc. Mark. >> Okay, that that's it. >> Mr. Chairman, before the board takes a vote, I just want to let everyone know what fees have increased or decreased in some cases. The attorneys are not increasing their hourly rate. Um, Mr.
Jeepson is reducing his hourly rate by $8. He's moving to a new firm and they're going to reduce the rate to stay with us. Uh, the traffic engineers Aurora are not increasing their hourly rate. uh Burgess Associates, they're increasing theirs by $10 for all of
their professionals who work on anything coming in from the town. And remember, any work that's charged to the escro account at that hourly rate is also charged to the town at the same hourly rate. So, it's the same. The engineer, the noise engineer, they increase their hourly rate by $22 an hour. We very
rarely use that. In any case, we do, it's it's charged against an escro account. >> Right. >> Okay. So, >> so not really a big hit to um our our expenses. >> If you're not uh if you rarely use the uh the noise and air engineer, uh why
don't you have your cellular uh person also here because you rarely use them as well. We've never used them for probably 20 years and I haven't had a an application come in for a new cell tower and if it did it would come in pretty
much to the zoning board or use fairings and the seller your communication laws changed many years ago that as long as you're not increasing the area where the equipment is stored it's considered administrative review for a permit. It doesn't have to come in front of the board for site improvement. I can tell
you one thing. Next time a cell tower application comes in, I will not be here. And the re You know why, right? >> I'm not going to say it on the record. >> I'll say it on the record. We went till 2:30 in the morning and I had to get up for work at 5.
>> But you weren't chairman at that time. >> No, I was not. >> There we go. I'm not expecting those late meetings. I thought you would >> I thought you were going to say that you were the sole owner of the company that owns all the the cell towers >> controlling interest >> because we had a packed room people that
were complaining that the cell phone tower is going to be in their backyard yet they had electrical stansion in their backyard and the cell phone tower is going on electrical stansion which is already in their backyard. >> They came to the zoning board meeting >> that was that was the zoning board that one. >> How many years ago was that Michael?
I've been here 18 years and I was probably about 18 years. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> So you it marred you. >> It um >> then they complained there's no cell phone reception. >> What's the mayor doing?
>> But but I like the fact that they didn't want in their backyard that they already have this massive electrical stension in their backyard and all they're doing is putting a cell phone and pen on top of >> that's the monopol. The monoples. Oh, but it but it doesn't cause brain cancer. >> The uh cells sight antenna does.
>> Anyway, >> moving right along. >> Right along. Sorry, I had I had a vent. >> I had a vent a little bit there. >> There you go. >> Okay. So, we're going to vote on all the consent uh consent agenda items I just read off. Yes. >> Yeah. >> On on B because we're setting the
regular meetings first first and third Wednesdays, which is good. Fine. But the procedural guideline says regular business meetings will be held on the first four Wednesdays of >> that's a change. >> Um okay.
>> So then um may maybe it uh maybe maybe the wording has to be >> first and third. >> Yeah. First and third >> the procedural guidelines, right? And what happen what happens if we're so busy we have every meeting >> then we schedule a special meeting in those for >> Okay, those are special meetings. Okay.
>> Which you will be in the spring and summer. >> Got it. >> Okay. Yes. >> Yeah. Just a question. So you've been here 18 years. I think I'm involved 20 years. And I'm just curious, Jerry, your fee, how has your fee changed in 20
years? I feel like I've been approving that number for 20 years. I don't mean to negotiate against the town, but I'd like to know. >> Don't give me any idea. Excellent. >> I have I have that number. >> Back in 2015, Jerry was $180.50.
2016, it went to 190. It stayed at 190. To 2017, 2018, 200, it stayed that until 2020, it went 210. And from 2020 to 2025, it was 210. And then last year, we increased.
>> All right. So, he's overpaid. Then cut him down. bills on that page forever. >> What happened? I Marvin and I used to go over the the bills. How come I don't do that anymore? >> If you remember, Marvin, it was a pain
in the butt to get Marvin to sign anything. And he wouldn't come. We wouldn't accept our email. I had to give it to you to sign or whatever it is. He asked me that all bills be handled through the land use division as land use division account. So, it doesn't require a planning.
>> Okay. Jerry, you want this? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, I I I joke with Jerry and Martina that affordable housing is Martina's kids college fund >> that's going to be paid.
>> I I I I think and I don't think I'm I don't think I'm talking out of school. Um that at one point him said to me, you know, as a Hindu, he they believe in a in a second life and he hopes he comes back as an affordable housing attorney.
That's a guaranteed job in New Jersey for life. >> Okay. >> Well, there's been a change in how uh bills are approved. Is this consent agenda item of authoriz authorizing the chair and the vice chair to approve
bills still? >> It's still there. During the course of the year or when I leave in six weeks, there may be the mayor may say to the new person, "You know what? It's going to go through planning board again. We'll get Mike's signature on it. will go that way. So I rather leave it in there because there may be something that go under
>> I'm just trying to understand. >> So So we're keeping president has to or vice president >> if there are bills that come under the pling board budget but there's nothing that comes in under the pling board budget. So it's all >> that's right. That's right. The bills don't come underneath the planning board budget
>> typically. >> Yeah. >> The reason Marvin didn't sign it is he had never authorized those people like I on a day-to-day basis. Okay. Jerry. Yeah, defend the board. The board's not voting for Jerry to defend the board on something. Marvin was a stickler. He wouldn't sign it because he said, "I
never authorized Jerry to do it." I'm not saying Jerry's not authorized to do it, but I didn't authorize him, so I'm not signing the vouch. >> That's what we got into months and months. >> His big thing is is is when a resident of West Windsor would call Jerry's office, Jerry would bill that. >> Jerry hangs up the phone immediately.
Plus, he's got an a secretary that filters all >> bug about that. So >> I don't want you talking to residents. >> Yeah, >> you Mike remembers. >> I remember. >> Wendy, do you have another thought? >> My thoughts.
>> I thought you say something else better. >> Yeah. >> Is my thought because I think that it goes to council after Sam signs off or Francis or somebody. >> Yeah, I sign. >> I'd say everything goes through the escro. >> It comes to council. I >> everything can go through escrow. Most
of it does, but all the planning board master plan and ordinance typically don't. >> Okay. >> But we do need a vote on the consent agenda. >> I know. >> You're trying real hard. If Curtis was chair, we'd have this done by now, Michael. >> Okay.
We I read through A through L. Um on motion. >> I move the approval of the consent agenda of this meeting. >> Okay. So, I'm sorry. I'm moved by Curtis, second by Allan for role.
>> Mr. Patel, >> yes. >> Mr. Lavara, >> yes. >> Mr. Shaktel, >> yes. >> Mr. Panode, >> sure. Yes. >> Mr. B, >> yes. >> Miss Jvers, >> yes. >> Mayor Marte, >> yes. >> Chairman Hoverman, Chairman Carl,
>> yes. >> Consent agenda approved. Thank you. >> Jo is not here. There's no environmental commission report. >> Okay. Um I don't have any comments correspondence
that I know of. Do I? >> No. Okay. Next up is um minutes from January >> public comments. >> Okay. Thank you. >> He always blanks on that. I don't know. >> I don't know why. Why do I blank on that?
public, please step up to the microphone that you name it for the record. >> Whatever you want to say about Sam is now your choice. >> We're going to go into close session this evening. So I don't >> Okay. Um hearing no public comments
want to motion to um regarding the approve the minutes from January 7th. >> So moved. >> Open open and close. >> There's two sets. Open. This is open the open minutes from January 7th.
>> So moved. >> Seconds. >> Okay. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Yes. You are not here. >> And Rob was Rob wasn't here. >> Okay. I'll entertain a motion to approve the
close session minutes from January 7th. >> So moved. >> Okay. But the issue is that if we need to discuss anything, uh, hold on a second. >> I I made a note on >> Oh, yeah. Am I allowed? I'd like to ask you a
question on the close >> or do we have to do that within a close? >> You can ask a question. >> Okay. >> You can't answer. We'll go in close session. Okay. >> Um, fifth round affordable housing isn't isn't until 2035. >> Correct. >> Is that correct? >> That's correct.
>> Okay. And I don't have anything changes soon. >> I I have one and it's all it is is a word. That's all. >> Okay. Because on page one, the gentleman to my right is referred to
as the vice chairman. On page number two, he is referred to as chairman. >> I was vice chair through that the whole meeting. Vice >> cut off. So minor correction with that. >> Okay, that's fine. Good.
>> I'll entertain a motion to approve the close session meeting minutes from January 7, 2026 with the with the amendment noted. >> So moved >> by Alan, second by Annis. >> Uh all in favor say I. >> I. >> Okay. So um Jordan is not here. Cannot
vote and Linda can. Okay. >> If you could give me the close session minutes so I can dispose of them properly. You can just end them down and that'll be perfect. Thank you. >> Next up is J.
>> Okay. I'll obtain a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved >> for litigation purposes. >> Litigation. Uh discussion of litigation. >> Uh all in favor say I. >> I. >> Public session is closed.
>> You do need a second so we can turn the recording off. That would be great. >> Yes. Sam.