oh no rec February 19 2025 regular planning board meetings called to order this is to advise a notice time date location and to the extent known agenda of subject meeting was promptly posted in the public place reserve the
such or or similar announcements on February 7th 2025 transmitted to the times the Princeton packet West Windsor and Plains Road news on February 7 2025 and filed with the Township Clerk on February 7 2025 chis please please call the
rooll Mr Patel say you got to speak Mr lavaro Mr sheel here Mr Pano yes Mr Bag yes yes Miss bar yes Miss appleget councilman
Whitfield mayor Marte yes Vice chairman hberman chairman CLK here thank you we have a quorum um before we get into the agenda I'll ask the public for any comments on non
agenda non- pending items please step up to the microphone state your name and address for the record okay seeing none like the the minutes from June 5th 2024 I'm sorry June yeah June 5th
2024 uh anybody have any amendments changes other than spelling errors any changes no please please call the rooll for those eligible to vote oh you're right wait sorry hold on a
second um I'll entertain a motion to accept the minutes from June 5th 2024 and second move by move by Allan second being recorded second second by Jord okay thank you uh please call the
roll speak up speak up it's being recorded So speak into the microphone Mike are we on June 5th we're on June 5th 2024 meeting I I I can't make that um you are you were absent
you're gonna abstain sorry so far Mr pel has uh said yes to it yes yes M yes mayor Mar yes and CH yes minut
accepted thank you next up are June 19th 2024 minutes um do I have any changes amendments to the June 18 minute I have a question yeah uh the Leon reports for
the affordable housing committee it says commends are inaudible what is that what do you mean on which page uh page two that's a good question um my guess is that whoever um wrote
These up the um the audio recording couldn't make out any any comments well I just want to get an understanding is it the audio or is it the way I speak or because I think I speak loudly enough no I don't think it's anything like that it says comments
microphone it's the comments but can you hear me now I mean usually I I feel like I can be heard on the microphone but I think it was the comments it wasn't yours wasn't your report I think it was the comments on is um Jerry is it
possible that we we can just attach a copy of the June 19th of affordable housing committee um memo into record or something yes okay I'll make a motion to attach the affordable housing committee
um memo that was given on that date just attach it to the the the meeting minutes so so move okay so um motion to approve these minutes with the attachment is motion by the mayor second
second second by Anis is for the role for those eligible to vote Yes yes may yes chairman abstains okay motion carries accept those minutes
with attachment um Mr Chael abstains to also Simon abstains also say abstain please abstain okay there you go okay okay next up are is the January 15
2025 meeting minutes um make a motion to approve the one second correction there's a correction coming the lion report I believe I said um there has not been an affordable housing committee meeting since the last
planning board meeting not in 2025 okay so I think there's a difference between the two right yes yes there would be um can we get that change please
you got that okay thank you I had even though I wasn't here I had a question regarding it's a general question Sam this may be for you on the consent agenda or letter C authorization for chair or vice chair to approve bills and
vouchers I haven't seen a bill or voucher in probably a while got it okay because I remember with Marvin sometimes I would go over like bills legal
bills there has any legal action most okay respons sounds good to me good good job Jerry not billing us okay um I was absent for this meeting
but uh I'll entertaining motion to approve with the amendment second okay a motion by Simon second by Allan please call the rooll um all those in that can vote
Yes yes Mr yes yes yes and I I'll abstain the next set of minutes or closed session so if there's any correction to those if there's any yes I'll make a motion to approve uh are
there any correction okay one second one moment are there any amendments to the closed session anybody no okay now Simon okay I'll make a motion to approve the Clos
minute uh meeting of January 15 20125 okay okay motion by Simon second by Anis please call the rooll for those eligible to vote Yes
yes yes yes may yes and I I'll abstain thank you okay next up is resolution pb2 24- 111sw
Carnegie Center building 101 sign waivers uh 101 Carnegie Center Boulevard block 9 lock 67 any changes or amendments to the resolution or that's why don't we wait for Jerry to give us like a little like
summary of it this is very straight this this was very straightforward for building uh 101 in Carnegie where they wanted a sign that was greater an area than permitted and the letters were higher than permitted uh given the fact that 101 is set back
quite far um and they were trying to show some visibility from Route One they needed a much larger sign with much larger letters they could the the reason they had to get the waiver was because there was an ordinance provision that
said if within a certain distance of a right of way um was a certain Dimension and 101 was literally when the certain distance of a an interior road that had very little traffic and the sign wasn't oriented that way but the technicality
was where they were in that that distance so they had to get um the sign area and letters were much smaller smaller than otherwise would be permitted that's why they needed the waivers so that's what this is all about pretty quite straight forward okay so
I'll entertain a motion to approve the resolution pb2 24- 111sw so move Mr chairman okay Simon be you there so Simon a motion by Simon uh second second by jorda uh please call the role for
the yes yes yes yes yes yes I'm I'm a I'm a yes did everybody else get called yeah yeah
okay yeah yeah you're correct I check I have I have the list I'm sorry I was absent yeah on the resolution yeah resolution Ah that's why I didn't see it okay sorry I obained thank
you okay next up is ordinance uh referral from Township Council 2025 -01 who wants to summarize this bavid you're up so good evening everybody um do I to
get sworn in for this no okay I'll promise to tell the truth anyway uh good evening everybody my name is David Novak with burges Associates tonight we have an ordinance from referral from the council it is ordinance 2025-the settlement agreement pertaining to the rp1 district what this ordinance does is
that it establishes pet daycare facilities as a permitted use within that district and then creates new regulations specifically intensity bulk regulations that deal with the uh parameters around which those pet daycare facilities can occur uh if those
standards look familiar it's because they're um largely borrowed from other zoning districts in the municipality uh with some changes made made based on the geographic location of the rp1 district understanding that's a mixed use environment where uh things might be a
little bit closer and Tighter together as opposed to say something long route one uh these parameters include uh sound proofing requirements um having uh certain construction requirements to make sure that animals are uh uh secure and safe
from injury and Escape ventilation requirements um housing requirements should there be an outdoor area animals must be kept indoors overnight uh requiring Provisions be made for the removal and proper proper disposal of animal food waste and bedding and debris
and um not re permitting any outdoor facilities as well due to the mixed use environment of the type of use here um for a consistency review like this essentially the board has two things to look at one whether or not this ordinance is inconsistent with our
master plan as well as any recommendations that you think are relevant to try to fix those inconsistencies um from a master planning perspective this is located in the rp1 Princeton Junction Redevelopment plan langes category uh which is as the
name suggests associated with the rp1 district the intent of that district is to create a core residential commercial uses including retail office space which can be designed as a distinctive walkable center with a sense of place for the Brinston Junction Community um
that being said I don't think there's anything that would be inconsistent with this ordinance and the land use plan's vision for the rp1 district um that's essentially it it's a relatively short ordinance and as I said was pursu uh
prepare pursu to a settlement agreement I have a couple of questions yeah um so it's a daycare facility right so by the I mean the definition of the name itself it's it's only during the
day that the pets will be kept there uh no we actually have two different definitions for in our ordinance for pet D pet dayare facility in kennel um a pet D pet daycare facility does allow for overnight stays um and that's
something that's actually relatively common with a lot of these pet daycare facilities or they call them doggy hotels or or whatever the fancy name might be um the main difference between a pet daycare facility and a kennel in our ordinance least is that kennels also include breeding and breeding would not
obviously be allowed um at a pet daycare facility but you are allowed to have saves overnight with a pet daycare facility I see yeah and not out of the ordinary what we see in the market so if if um they're allowed to stay um overnight then how can you not have
outdoor facilities so basically the pets are not being let out at all I mean how would they do their business um they would have to be doing the business indoors um one of the concerns I have a dog and I've had him for four years and I I mean I don't know
of any dog who doesn't need to get out and no it's overnight you can't leave the dog out overnight doesn't it says 900 p.m 8 AM yeah no outdoor facilities are permitted though um that was uh one of the recommendations I believe of the health
officer um to keep everything indoors how does that work and the developer in this case is Avalon that's the project where it's going to go in one of their similar mixed use developments up in North Jersey they have a similar use in there and everything's contained within the building it's a similar use that's
that wants to come in here they're going to have to come in front of the planning board because it's a change of use so they're going to need to get a minor site plan approval a lot of good questions you can ask them how they're going to do it but we vetted this ordinance with Avalon and with with their uh preferred user coming in and
they're fine they can comply with this code the the uh the vet that we approved they have an outdoor facility they do yes next to Starbucks yep veg yeah yeah it's it's not for the animals for a run it's just for them to quick they go out to do
their business and then they're brought in so there's no outdoor run it just seems like to jica's uh question it just seems like it be more like more appropriate to have outdoor facility for Doggy Daycare than for just
yeah Health Officer says no because of this specific location oh for this location this location here because the it would be on the prominade would be the front and then the back area would open up into an Courtyard where there's a swimming pool and things okay okay
okay so so if it was in a different location that was kind of like made sense then you probably would yeah for example in the PCD District uh we allow for these types of uses and we establish regulations for outdoor facilities okay
so it's only because of this unique location right next to the train station in a mixed use environment there was concern about having an outdoor facility and how you deal with waste so having a yard an enclosed yard would also count as an outdoor facility yeah yeah the the
vet the vet next to Starbucks has a fenced in outdoor facility as you rightly said you know for a wet they don't need to have an outdoor facility because you're not going to leave the pet there over right but I could see why you wouldn't want it here because it's near a swimming pool
and then all you have dog waste all day the wind blows a certain way the people in the swiming pool are going to leave right I understand that part but I don't know how the pet would be taken care of they'll have to have an indoor facility where they do their business and then it gets they'll clean it up indoors a good
question you got make the dog go if they don't want to go to no that's that's where the training comes in you got to train them the goes in go in the spot okay okay all right okay I got a question okay go ahead um since you're
our planner is that uh is this ordinance in compliance with our master plan oh yes yes it's um the the really the the key is to see whether or not the ordinance is inconsistent with our master plan right so it doesn't need to be consistent it just needs to be not
inconsistent which is a very important double negative um in this case I do believe that is not inconsistent with our master plan uh we do try to encourage in that District a walkable neighborhood that's mixed use um you know putting aside the outdoor facility
aspect um for the amount of units that are going there having this type of facility there right next to the train station I think makes a lot of sense for a mixed use environment people that might not want to leave their pet there overnight or by themselves while during the workday or every day will now have that opportunity to you know drop their
head off so it seems to be a very complimentary use for that District yeah that makes sense okay any other questions changes needs or whatever you can't change it it's referral but uh any other questions okay
so as a planning board our job is to review it and and and do what exactly see if it's inconsistent with our master plan because you can always disagree with me um and then but that's that's what yeah yeah yeah but and if if you think it is inconsistent um you can
offer recommendations to the council to try to remedy those inconsistencies um as well as anything else you really see relevant so that's basically your rool is with plenty board is twofold see if it's inconsistent and then offer recommendations to the ordance so then if I as I pointed out
that you would need an outdoor facility for a pet take care how does that play into the review of the ordinance um and if the rest of the board feels the same way that recommendation can made to the council uh one thing I would caution is that this was an ordinance
prepared to pursuant to a settlement agreement so it does get a little bit more difficult to amend an ordinance that's been prepared purs to settlement agreement specifically not that request came from the township staff
yes J I mean I wouldn't be dropping my pet there in a hurry and I I know pretty much everybody I know who has a pet W be taking their pet to a daycare that doesn't have an outdoor facility for the pet to use that's I mean that I just seems to be inconsistent from that point
of view I don't if it if it was in a different area it would have an outdoor facility but and they negotiated with the with with Avalon right yeah so they accepted it and they feel that you know
that it's it works for that spot that place so no I agree with you that there should be an outdoor facility but this reasons why there is none here right okay thank you that uh location is part
of that uh retail space on the prominade yes okay okay I'll entertain a motion to um was it to accept the referral Jerry so moved no it's defined that it's not substantially uh inconsistent with the
uh the master plan I'll entertain a motion that the referral it is consistent it's consistent with the master plan and there no no recommendations for changes make that motion okay Allan um makes a motion to
accept the referral as as is I second it Simon seconds can you please call the rooll Mr Patel yes Mr Shel yes Mr panco yes Mr
Bag yes Miss bar yes mayor Marte yes chairman KP yes okay um was was there was there was there an affordable housing memoral for this meeting or no no okay I just want
to make sure okay okay okay next up is the application for pb19 d132 Amendment senior living at Bear Creek amended final site plan ml
22025 okay hi good evening well it's certainly convenient certainly convenient that you have that and this way you can just look and remember where where you're from um in any event roof of publication and service are in order and the board has
jurisdiction thank you invol that brothers so anyway the first Revolution that Jerry prepared was in 1996 so he's uh very familiar
I is that a new record for you Jerry 28 years the probably not Acres it's in the plann residential retirement community Zone that Frontage on both old Tron Road and Village Road East
um uh it's designated in P records as 33 L 1.21 and 1 022 um the entrance is the es
Drive in 2009 this was submitted own so we have I said the tax record refer two different Lots they really not lots but that's how the tax
refers to them they're both part of 1.02 probably didn't even to say so uh the applicant is the owner of the IL unit that's the independent living
unit the um the owner of the Al has consented to uh us proceeding with this application we have a little tiny bit of work to do on time their um again we see second amended
final sit manov this relates solely uh to the independent living facility with the exception of that the common elements of the Assisted Living site this application is limited to
architectural building and minor changes and Improvement um approved by the demanded site plan will be demanded in 2022 that's the
last relates to this uh proper um the changes uh allow us and you'll hear preig out allow us to uh remain competitive in this market uh which
refer to even in Mr Novak's one report highend syst fac this application does not involve the addition of any marketable units
there's no increase in the size of building no increase in coverage there no variances no new waivers we've had a series of waers related to the amount of cing on the
site that this the only waiver that I'm aware of is in effect modify that way to accommodate the increase um um are to maintain this competitive
uh project and there are other highend assist facilities in the region that have uh increased their amenities and uh so we're in order to remain comp that we're increasing we proposing to
increase ours and seeking your approval the changes including raising the building several feet to accommodate below to parking in a garage apparently that's one of the new amenities U uh
also we have U relating that we have grading changes again partially on the common elements of the Assisted Living unit in order to our Entrance Road to es drive now have
a and that was AO he briefly about that uh surface parking areas have been reconfigured nonexpanded but uh we can go through thatly that was done improve traffic blow and we also added another amend
which is 24 uh above ground GES uh which because of the design of those actually increases the number of parking spaces for purposes of your count 48 they used to
have a a better I used to have the podium here and that was a little bit better than this I think FR prob so um that is a general overview of
the changes you'll hear more about from the various w we did get uh early in this process we filed sometime in early December we got a series of um review memos from all your Professionals in
January our our engineer with dyin gvin issued a letter of report on January 24 responding to the comments and all those MOS we've since gotten new me all those dated in February I'm happy
to report that the your um fire code official or chief Mr L says was most recent satisfi Allon that's also true with to the
traffic [Music] T that report is dat February 14th indic we have five people here available for Tex
yeah and not all of them will be called initially there questions they can be brought up qualified answer questions but our first is Anthony before this
AG the [Music] assistant Sam would you come over and okay sorry I mean ARG um he's going to briefly describe what Mr no
CL in his M the townships that housing hel and Par share plan Vision development on this side of the highend facility again consists 220 units including 55 word b
uh and he'll also talk about the need for the enhanced avenity package we're proposing in order to be able to remain competitive in the market uh we also have our engineer here uh she'll provide
excellent testimony she'll talk first about existing provisions on the premises both uh both condominium units to modify configuration of the parking uh including the additional spaces in
and she'll talk about the other enhanced onsite uh amenities um our third witness is Steve col the project architect uh he'll go through U the design of the uh building
just to refresh the recollection and then it'll take you through uh the uh changes that we're proposed closing which mainly involve uh the enhancements to the amount of parking and the uh
expanded outdoor and indoor amenities our traffic consultant here and it's available to testify uh I think our engineer is going to talk briefly about the parking waiver um but if you're if there are any questions uh that go beyond the her
testimony our traffic consultant Carl keny a resident of on of West Township this year um we also have our landscape architect I think to the extent whereare
one issue that we might have to respond to on landcaping and I think our Engineers will try to do that if there any further questions our landscape architect suitors is in attendance we also have in
attendance C Camp can talk to you about the the enhancements remain competitive that that that becomes something that you want to get more detail
from so um that's my general overview and unless question I I have a question for you you mentioned Chief's Lynch's memo right so this is the me demo from Chief linch stated February 18th yeah
and you agree to all his um um bullet points uh water supply for fire protection there should be a hydrant located within 100 feet uh proposed connection and then and then uh lock boxes uh so and then there's something
about stand pipes in each stair Tower so all everything has been agreed to has said at the bottom they've all been agreed to just want to make sure just want to make sure I read into the record so thank you Frank I'm going to swear in um all
your Witnesses and potential Witnesses if they could yeah let's do it all once everybody could stand please okay if you could raise your right hand um let's start with Anthony um and just do well first do you swear
or affirm that testimony you're about to will be the truth so one affirmed and then if you can go around starting with Anthony um and give your full name spell your last name thank you okay yeah it's fine go thank
you PR r c r e i g h r R thank you thank you thank you okay please call firstness
come thank you very much I was at that meeting 1996 um we're here uh slight modification to the plan me the competition that taking place is
I'm sure all of you are aware within West surrounding towns of the the genre of over 50 55 plus housing
is it's many many Villas to houses so forth and so on we need to uh compete in that market this is a this has always been Vision
the highend product and so so we we felt the need to create the opportunity for um public parking particular this winter
AF get snow on Thursday I assum um that that people who can't afford it and choose to who want the opportunity to have public department so raise building slightly parking
underneath the building and put um parking outside as since we can't mandate use it we've had to require some still has par outside parking and we can't force
affordable affordable P to pay for it so you know is um we have added some amenities like which are open all the residents Large Gym an indoor pool as
well as an outdoor pool um a different C rooms and Game Room a small television room where we can movie theater type
of sports and for different different events used and uh uh since parties and so forth more seem to be more involved now period remember 2020 we had War
kitchen and all that stuff 2022 now the market demands that we roduce it so we're not it's not something new it's something we inside building but thing is the building
itself still has 51 affordable units 69 marate units you haven't changed unit account you haven't changed un fed account still the same and anthy the pools new are the pools
new or had they been in the prior thank you what's the number 24 garage parking outside what this number comes up you have 24 garage parking outside on the on the surface garage Park Garage Park why
Park yes different kinds of parking May areas where uh people have a have a SUV they you know they don't want to use put it underneath the
building just just provides some some few other units that in terms of the parking um the underground parking that's open to everybody or are they assigned spaces there'll be not assigned spaces
people will will rent those spaces oh underground they they be renting the spaces and garages will be read as well yeah are the is the underground parking heated or air conditioned no it's
not that presents a lot of other problems just asking so so so if if there's no assigned parking so there's 48 spaces underground is that right how many spaces Underground okay so there's X number of spots on the
ground you can issue that many permits right and so they it's first come first serve you got a permit you go in the ground you pull pull into a space okay you know car a weapon we can work those
problems okay so they okay I understand number 11 spaces in the below 160 so so it's underground garage with 168 you said yes okay so the issue that
many permits and it's that's almost one per unit right almost okay right I understand yeah they everybody has different things they prioritizing what they want to spend on they rather live in a studio but you
know Park their Lamborghini underground and the affordable units will be paying the same rate as the market rate units parking okay I'm sorry I think there would typically be a required reduction I
don't know the answer to that um no maybe all right that could be wrong then I don't know are there electric vehicle spots uh underground as well as on your surface parking's there are some safety issues
that we have to do in terms of char underr I'll let deal with that okay well I'm just curious if if there electric vehicle spaces underground as well as surface
parking or there's only some on the surface parking or just there's some under parking okay safety issu safety is okay fine so if I so for example if I'm a resident there and I own an electric vehicle the
only place that I could charge it would be on a Surface lot I could not charge it underground yeah let's let the okay all right so I just have a question for you David
um the affable housing do you want to SAR yeah one I swear in all our um staff if you could raise your right hand do you swear or affirm a testimony about the give the truth I do please say your full name and and just St stay you
f engineer David Novak board planner okay so the question David is this if their affordable uh housing people are want to Park underground paying the same rate as the market rate
does that for toward Co regulations and believe it would actually um I'm also looking at Ed snikes here because he deals with affordable housing as well um I'm looking at Ed snikes because he's a planter and deals with affordable housing as well but um I think because
there would be surface parking available for free um they could charge the affordable units the same rate as the market rate unit if they wanted to park underneath I think that would be permitted is there do you think that would be permitted is there a way to get
it definitive not before the end of the hearing tonight no but that they're gonna have to conform with whatever COA and or uck regulation set forth anyway say that whatever the co regulations are will okay we'll
you and and that's and I think that's only because the underground parking is like a premium as opposed to everybody has the ability to park Outdoors if they want yeah I don't think it'd be the same as a HOA fee with this where you would get reduced HOA fee for an affordable
unit because it's a luxury I think they wouldn't get a discounted fee so just as a hypothetical question if people decide that they don't want to park underground what happens to the parking
P of above let's say you got 50% of those uh space is empty M you have enough support above they would either have to reduce the rate to try to entice people to park underneath the ground or you would just have they have additional surface
parking spaces occupied pick aall I'm I'm just thinking back in my day New York City um uh H housing if you if you lived in a um rent stabilized apartment and there was parking available you your garage
was rent stabilized also thanks s okay thank you very much just uh by whom are you employed in what pass again state your name d gin employed by partner engineering science
as the Director of Land Development and what is your educational background in engineering what license be old in New Jersey and ARL Crown cor so I have a Bachelor of Science degree in civil engineering and also a graduate
certificate in project management jit um I obtained my professional engineering license in New Jersey L 89 and it is current okay have you previously appear for the I have on the original site plan application well the more recent site
plan application 2020 and then the first amendment in 2022 okay uh Mr chairman we're offering M GL it's uh we keep saying that because my I'm gonna tell you because my daughter works for Rita black so
I okay um we're going to offer um DNE as an expert in engineering and she accepted yes unless anybody had yes okay couple quick questions um did you prepare or supervise the preparation of
the amended final site plan dated May 3 19 I'm sorry 2019 last revised uh January 20 2025 and consisting of 18 Pages yes did you prepare or supervise the preparation
of the stormlord management report dat July 10 2019 last revise January 20 2025 yes and did you prepare or supervise the preparation of the operations and maintenance manual dated
November 11 2019 last Revis January 20 2025 yes and did you prepare the letter date or supervise the preparation of letter dat of January 22 20125 responding to the Township's REM
review memor issu January 202 yes um so we're going to have a uh non uh question you know Q&A I think uh
Dy has we've talked about what we need to go through in her presentation and to make it go as quickly as possible so we're not here when it starts to snow I don't I don't know what happened to the snow we were supposed to get 12 in
today uh anyway if you could go through your script from the board and and give me that chance and Mr M Tok and have exhibit submitted
into 12 Mor I think you only have this is sheet 18 of so this is sheet 4 of 18 of the site plan set that was submitted to the board the original date being uh May 3rd of 2019 and then revised through January 20th of
2025 um just to orientate everybody to the application uh easiest place to start is the intersection of Old Trenton Road and Village Road East which is on the right side of the sheet uh to the south of the project is the Hamlet at Bear Creek to I'm sorry to the east of
the project is the Hamlet Bear Creek to the South is preserved uh Farmland uh which is actually uh dedicated as part of the original Bear Creek project uh on the opposite side of Old Trenton Road is a residential subdivision and then to the north of the site is the be the
Villages of be Creek subdivision since it's part of the plan set I do I don't think it has to be marked at a separate yeah right just as long as Daphne identifies can you point out where bare freak assisted living is
currently on your plan and where this site is in relationship to that sure the existed uh the existing assisted living facility is adjacent to Old Trenton Road so that's located right here again Old Trenton Road up along the top of the sheet and the storm water
management Basin up in the upper left corner and the proposed development for the Independent Living Community is to the east of the existing assisted living facility okay so it's it's uh in that area if you drive
into Bear Creek there are some Road stubs in there correct correct correct as you drive in the main entrance Drive off of uh Village Road East you would typically turn to the right to get to the assisted living facility if you go straight you run into a stub road
towards the south end of the project there's also a driveway uh about Midway along that part of the roadway that takes you into the Hamlet development are you is is that site plan at also at the corner of Old Trenton Road and
Village Road or is it just in that area between a Bear Creek Assisted Living and the handling that's yeah that's correct the assisted living facility is in this location right here and the undeveloped parcel which is rounded by the Loop Road
on three sides and the assisted living facility to the West that's what's being developed for this application okay so that corner area is not being developed no the corner right over at the corner here is actually part of the independent living I'm sorry the Assisted Living lot
at the actual corter the Assisted Living condominium unit yes I think we covered most of that uh you want me to talk about the changes next should we move on to the changes that are proposed I think we've got everybody orientated okay yeah so with
respect to the changes that are proposed uh Mr Cohen is going to go through the changes to the building however I did want to note that there's no changes to the footprint of the building the size of the building stays the same um there's an underground a lower level uh space that has been added which again
he'll talk about in detail um from a site perspective the main change to the to the development is the configuration of the parking lots the two main parking lots in front of the building the previous application had both of those parking lots in a
curval linear alignment that's been modified to improve the circulation and now it's just a rectangular alignment um in addition to those surface parking lots there are freestanding garages at the East End of
those parking lots up against the Loop Road each one of those garages contains 12 parking stalls so a total of 24 parking spaces within those freestanding garages and then immediately adjacent to those garage stalls are parking spaces
uh so there's a total of 24 spaces then at each end associated with the garages now those Spaces by the township definition would be considered tandem spaces because the spaces within the garage only have access to an to a
driveway aisle through another space tandem spaces aren't allowed by uh ordinance unless it's associated with uh employee parking and uh and valet parking but in this case
both both the garage stall and the parking space behind it would be assigned to a single unit so they essentially function as a valet space or an employee space in that those spaces are not open to the general for General parking they're specifically assigned to a
unit that's correct theage space excuse me you rent the garage space you do rent it right the garage spaces will be rented correctly yeah the free standing garage spaces will be
rented other space which is tandem to it is that rented as well the space immediately behind the garage stall is also rented because it's to the same unit yes it's the same unit so it's part of the rental you get
the two spaces you get the garage and the space behind it just get these two spaces you BL block car you blocked a car that's in the garage with the space that's outside you have two cars yes okay and so okay so you rent both spaces
comes okay you were mentioning about employees will there'll be employees associated with this facility and if so where will they B the in general the parking for the employees is in the back where there's also parking for the cafe
there's a there's a small parking lot in the rear of the building that's for employees and for the cafe there's a small Cafe in the building so there's parking in the rear and that's not changing that was previously approved just to be clear I said correct there no increase in
building in lot coverage correct No in fact there's a slight decrease in lot coverage as a result of the Amendments uh no variances are being requested in conjunction with the changes correct and the
only um design it's not a new design but it's call modification fire design set plan for the uh pH number par
correct all right leave you alone okay I'm going to talk about the parking all the the counts for the parking okay um so in the previous application Within These two main parking lots there were a total of 234
spaces proposed and approved with these modifications there are a total of 188 spaces in the parking lot plus the spaces associated with the garage and the space directly behind the garage and that brings the total for the
parking outside of the building to 212 spaces so it was originally 234 it's now 212 in addition to the parking spaces at the surface and in these garages there are underground garage space spaces which will be discussed in more detail
by the architect but there's a total of 168 spaces in the lower level of the building that would get added to the 22 spaces for a total of 380 spaces associated with the residential use of the building where the entrance to the
undergr under under basement park right the entrances there's actually four entrances because of the way the building is configured there's four separate areas for underground parking there's an entrance at the uh called the North End of the of the long Wing in the
building right here similarly at the South End there's an entrance drive right there and then for the two uh smaller wings of the building there's entry drives that come off of the parking lots so each Wing has its own separate entrance and what about exit are the exits the entrance entrance yes
access point you have underground parking of under all buildings the the the underground parking is limited to the wings I'll call it the wings of the building the main portion in the center is amenity space such as the underground pool or the indoor pool um and that'll
be discussed in further detail by Mr Cohen small area going to make improvements on assist sure so one of the drive the driveway at the North End of the building crosses old condominium line
that separates the assisted living facility from the it's just a very narrow strip here just the way the condo line Falls relative to the driveway so that's the limited Improvement that's on the um the condominium unit associated with the assisted living facility and that's why
part speaking of arking I found a companion document to uck called understanding uck okay uh there's a question and answer section in that document there's a question is there a cap on fees related to parking pets and amenities the answer
is there is no cap on fees related to parking pets and amenities as they are outside the maximum sales price and rent calculations and are considered optional services however the fees for optional Services must be the same for affordable units as for market rate units for example pool
privileges cannot be free to market rate unit households and an extra expense for affordable unit households affordable unit owners must have the same access to amenities as market rate owners Additionally the fees for optional Services cannot be part of the monthly rent and cannot be charged once the tenant has decided not to use the
service so because it's an optional service they can charge access needs to be the same as whatever they charge oric can't any more than what they charge the market rate units is a wonderful thing let's not get into the details round two yes change it
definitely it should be changing but we'll wait to see what the state does if we could go back over the parking for a moment was that 188 surface parking spaces yeah there's 188 surface parking spaces plus the 24
spaces that are associated with the garages each garage is 24 there okay 212 spaces outside of the main building in these two
16 and then there are 12 additional behind the building correct so the grand total is 392 Park could you answer a question about why you need to increase the parking
spaces from the previously approved 339 parking spaces to the current number of 392 yeah I think that was actually addressed by Mr mizuka I think they're trying we're trying to provide additional options for parking we have we have underground parking within the building itself we have surface parking
we have uh garages out in the parking lot lot so it's to provide additional options for parking which is part of the uh higher end services on these types of facilities yes but the number's gone up as well right yeah the number has gone up variety of parking it's also the
number of parking spaces so why why are there so many more parking spaces needed again I think just to provide that availability of different options if more people choose to be underground then we need less parking spaces at the surface maybe more people want surface parking less underground so I think it's
just provide that flexibility you can't we needed the extra space to provide that flexibility and and other communities be that type of parking Arrangement so
we have to again we have to match up with the other highend assist is any of these any of these uh parking spaces planed to be banked or they're all going
to be built out 100% I don't we haven't proposed in Bank you don't gain any still have to count them as service parking even though they're not bank they have this
corre yeah I mean over total number space total number WEA it's bang where yeah yes I'm I'm the only reason I mention it is that if you end up renting 168 uh spaces
underground your surface parking is going to be a lot less and if that were the case you could have Landscaping there but if you don't and most of your
uh residents have surface parking and don't want to pay for that amenity then you have you have you have the need for the surface parking and your underground parking you can use for other purposes
okay we Mr Ron can address this but he's later onine sche of okay I'm just curious he's trying to help you out okay so as you had previously mentioned were 339 spaces previously
approved uh which required a sign waiver for excess spaces and we're now proposing 392 spaces for an increase to 53 spaces could you say how many previously approved 339 2022 yeah I think it was the
same um based on the ordinance standard the number of spaces would be 166 just based on the calculation which is based on bedroom count um also um we checked the parking calculation based on the residential site Improvement standards
and the residential site Improvement standards would allow 414 spaces so we actually comply with the RSI standard point good um another change to the building again will be discussed by Mr um Mr Cohen is
that the building's been raised up 5 feet that allows to the access to the underground space so the building is raised up out of the ground up by 5 and A2 fet um the lower garages as I mentioned before access through the four um driveways for each of the four spaces
that are underground excuse me what what's the are there height restriction on the underground parking the height restriction on so so in other words if I have if I want to park if I want to park my um my Amazon mercedesbenz van
underneath the parking garage can I do that okay okay right or if I have a ski rack on my SUV will it okay uh just one question we're raising the building it still needs the height
limitation yeah which is what I think the maximum height is 44 and we're 42 I don't know and we're at 44 one point and we're actually at the same
height that Ro we Chang plat this is what 44 9 44 44 and the answer was 44 and the uh
permitted height is 45 well one thing that strikes me as odd about the underground parking scheme if you haven't assigned spaces to each of those garages it's theoretical that somebody could go into the first parking
area go all the ways down not find the space has to come out go around go in again to the next one and so on and so forth um to me it would make sense if you did assign the spaces to the
apartment units so it's to avoid these extra traffic as you will around yeah so that can be comoda thank you um one of the other changes to the
cyel to the center Courtyard uh in between the two wings of the building originally that had some uh concrete open space and a pool the pool's going to remain but a pavilion building uh is proposed within the Courtyard area that will also be discussed in further detail
by the architect um in that area Mr snikes I think had asked us to add some bike racks in that area so we'll take care of that um and I think that also addresses Mr gic's comment about the number of parking uh space of bicycle from
Project the last site change is that the uh the tennis court and pickle ball courts have been reconfigured or reorientated to accommodate the changes in the parking lot and also to allow for the 10 score to be converted to pickle ball courts if that's turn to be
needed with respect to zoning standards the bulk standards PRC C Zone which is under section-1 194 C1 all of those standards are met um I think I previously mentioned that there's been a slight reduction in the Improvement coverage
which is essentially impervious coverage so a very slight reduction from the previous approval in 2022 um in addition there are standards uh area height and yard standards outlined in ordinance section 200-1 194c
to G um those are complied with with one exception uh a variance was granted back back in 2005 for the distance of the minimum front set back from a interior roadway uh the requirement is 50 fet but the variance had been granted for 24
feet um that Dimension which is located right here at the one corner of the building um was increased back in 2022 to be 33.8 ft so it's excess of what the variance was that was granted now 20 years ago so that would be the only
location where there's a deviation from that portion of the standards and it was previously approved um the as a result of the changes to the site plan uh there were changes made to the landscape and lighting design um Mr snikes had requested some
additional evergreen trees be used to supplement the Landscaping along the building which we will accommodate um in addition he wanted us to coordinate the location of any venting from the garage uh with the Landscaping to be sure things aren't blocked we'll take care of that also um and there are no other
outstanding in landscape comments or lighting comments from um Mr snikers or Mr GK Fran you were okay with the lighting this afternoon good okay so no any comments there I have a question about the lighting uh there's no
indication as to what the lighting level is going to be underground I think it's kind of important to know what that is so are you referr to the lighting that's in the garage yeah under ground Okay so going and talk about
that um and then uh there had been a design waiver previously grant for the hours of Illumination for the lighting on site uh those hours are not changing intact um there were some minor changes to the store M management design
uh as a result of the of the site changes and this been acceptable um there was one utility comment in Mr G's letter that I wanted to address that had to do with the pools and discharging cool water um so in Mr
F's comment it said that swimming pools are not permitted to discharge into the sanitary sewer system so we had put a note on the plan that said that the pool water be taken off site be a little more specific about that uh we'd accomplish that by pumping the pool the outdoor pool or the outdoor pool or the um
indoor pool uh the pool water be pumped into trucks taken off site and discharged in accordance with whatever the regulations are uh respect to the full discharge that requ an approval from the health department will I think that's it Chang it and in
terms of storm management continue to comply yeah there was some minor changes that Mr found question parking electric charging available Howes yes so there are
electric charging space is proposed in in the parking lot right now there's only one space in each of the surface parking lots but the there's going to be additional Make Ready spaces um which which came up in 2022 as part of that application but that's that stays
consistent with what was 3bc approv any in the parking area Mr Colin can talk about any EV spaces in the underground parking DNE in terms of the Landscaping um one one was the Landscaping that add had
recommended around the buildings and there was a second one what was the second uh oh the second was that there was a concern about venting from the venting yeah thank you yeah I don't remember the exact number I
know the total would be 414 for the for the buildings but I I understand that rsis maximum rather than rather than minimum yeah our to RS standard three um we
allow in this district5 par spaces for units and 1.0 so that's where one of the differences is com the we request re RS they can based on number factor
establish exactly yeah the clear height and underground paring from basement floor to the ceiling Mr Cohen will address that any other any other
questions okay next up I guess keeping Steve wait [Music] thank thank you thank you got extra
little oh you didn't last page you didn't get you yeah you can have it us now one my qualifications yeah but
is11 that's part the yes it is right Mr quickly go through your qualifications
um by wh are you employed in what Stephen was architect I'm an architect you to talk into the microphone please oh sorry uh I'm employed by Stephen S Cohen architect PC and um I am an architect principal
okay uh what's what's what is your educational background architecture licensing to you holding New Jersey and are they current okay I have an associate degree in engineering from the State University of New York I have a bachelor of architect from Kent State
University in Ohio I have currently in New Jersey a uh planner's license as well as an architectural license uh and I'm registered in a number of other states around the country and your jersey planning license is everything is current everything is current have you
prev I know the answer but have you previously appeared before this report I have I presented this project twice before okay so Mr chair again we're offering Mr as an expert in
architecture uh any issues and then one question did you prepare or supervise the preparation of the architectural elevation elevations and floor plans dated November 26 last Revis
February 6 2025 I did consisting of 11 sheets I did okay okay so bot of Burden here um so
this first of all we have three images here of the see these somewhere else we have three different images of the um excuse me just um hold that for just a
second yeah let's mark ex a yeah these images were not presented earlier they're here this evening for presentation purposes there three different views of the building um okay this is a view of the side of one
of the buildings that shows the entrance into the parking bar and there are four this is these are as uh Miss Galvin talked about there are entrances at the North and South End
they'll be consistent in design with an arched top but they the ends of the building okay yeah one this is A1 this is A1 no this is no
yeah the gold one the gold far is a no yes the one he has in his hand that's A1 right this shot uh of the entry canopy and again the two buildings are symmetrical they have the same type of
uh entry drop off area yeah here um A2 yeah and the side the the garage entrance uh in this case is the same just a different view of the one we had
here same truck yeah yes the last image is just a view of the entry Corner uh with a the canopy area you can see it I guess a little clear in this other rendering but the issue is that we changed we had
a a larger Port CER previously and we changed it to make it simpler and more open so that's the revision in this case this is A3 basic that you're ESS the
same yes the only yeah well the the manad roof was too two submissions ago this last submission was is basically this building the only difference between that submission this is the added height
to get the garage parking beneath it that's another question I have about the height it's Arch I'm assuming that the middle is the highest but Bes sides that will beate minimum requirements well this is
not this is not an open garage this garage will be mechanically ventilated so there's no there we we put the openings in there basically for natural light no no no I'm talking about the actual what is the minimum standard oh
seven feet so it'll be seven foot 7 foot at the low Point okay yeah but just to go further on this the um that was one I believe that was one of the LG question are you going to have
hvdac on the roof yes we are and and are they going to be uh didn't yes it is it's consistent with our last submission we have a parit on the building and the last sheet in my set has a at the bottom
has a diagram taken from the road looking towards the building and the site angle is such the equipment is is ganged in the center of the building so it won't be visible from the street okay good yeah let's go through okay so this
first sheet um this has two items on it that we changed that was shown originally and then this this plant shows a number of things it shows the parking beneath the beneath the building on both legs it
shows a revised entry canopy it shows the amenity space the enclosed amenity space at the first level the entry level to the building and And this parking the parking by the way is is five and a half feet below
this level and then the last thing is the lower level amenity space that we added we have an indoor pool we have different function rooms meeting rooms Etc again as Mr mizuka said to keep this building
um consistent with other development there are spaces in here that are unassigned that was one of the questions and the reason that happens is the changing population in these buildings sometimes people want other things somebody might want a wood shop
somebody might want a card room so you have certain spaces that you don't assign that you leave open that you can use for various functions Club room somebody may have a sewing Club CL or a car you know just different different functions and quite frankly you have
this space below grade uh and this space atg grade trying to cut a room out of here doesn't necessarily save you any money you might as well put the space in and have that available for functions so these that's this first
sheet shows the parking the canopies and the amenity space at both levels you see above ground is that what is visible above ground just the this just that no this isn't visible above ground this is below this is below ground the only the
only visibility of this from the back of the building is and it's on the elevations in the in the submission it's got a clear story window in here that allows natural light into that pool area so in so this structure the um the
drawing at the bottom yes this one um which part of this is visible above ground this is this section sits under this section under that section this is at ground this this is at grade this is below what about the arms These Arms
yeah they're parking in there they're basically midway between this is midway between this and this so this is 5 and 1/2 ft down and these are at grade so this is 5 and 1/2 ft this is is
effectively let's call it zero and this is 10 feet below grade so you have this the lowest level is this then you have the parking level at a midpoint and then you have the the amenity space on the first level this bit not exactly how
it's it's going to be right because is this building going to be there this bu that build that rendering is taken looking this way in this building so the entryway is here the canopy is here here this level as I said is is half the
distance so this is grade this is 5 1/2 ft down which is what that goes it splits it it just splits it it seems to all work together I hope no it does work together Steve Steve uh is this part of the plan set excuse me is
this part of the plan set yes all these are in the but I'm going to have them marked anyway because they're part of the um submission the handout that you gave to everybody I think it'd be a little easier so this will be A4 yeah and it's sheet
a101 I am are you okay you're okay with what his explanation this is underr under the thank you this is a very simple drawing this shows the one of the 12 car
freestanding garages that sits in the parking lot they have a a slightly sloped roof so they're not too high and and they're just very simple the the exterior materials match the materials of the building and color-wise
they'll be consistent the way the way the site is they step up there's this some grading issues so the garages step up I just have a question about the B plan I noticed
um in the recreational areas yes there are certain services that I'm sure that people are going be paying for for example say a salon the salon Sal um they won't pay for just Salon
they so my question not necessar for you but David are those those yes and even like to allow outside people from the development there resc
okay Mr valer uh a104 is A5 okay this a 1.05 is what we call the Pavilion
originally in the center Courtyard we open patio area um based on discussions with Mr mooka and others uh we decided to create this Pavilion uh which is basically just
additional common area for activities and it's basically material well it's got a large common room and has a a gathering space in the center they can use this for activities um has a yoga
room it has lockers and showers which are um available to the pool it has a small area we call and the outdoor pools in use there um
bathrooms serve both the Pavilion and the uh and the pool itself this is the large activity room can be divided in half and the primary in this case the materials again to the extent that we have solid walls they'll match the
material and colors of the building and the rest of this is the doors are glass and there's a lot of glass in the building to keep that very opened um the height of it is and I don't I was I didn't put it on this drawing but it's
14 feet to the top which allows for a 12 foot ceiling in the roofs to make them again light and Airy and then the roof is flat and so that's the that's the Pavilion area that we talked about okay and just for the record that's a sheet a
1.05 and it's A6 it is A6 y got be F Mr would the flat roof present a problem with the snow well it's slightly slow first of all the qu your question
is yes I mean flat roofs and snow we're not great to no but there's enough drainage on the roof and we do make this we don't have a dead level roof we have a slightly sloping roof so slow snow will accumulate on the roof but structurally it won't be an issue you
know we've got basically space for two fet of structure there which is more than enough to support that roof the next sheet is a um this is a roof plan and I think you asked about the equipment so this shows the equipment
located basically in the roughly the center of the building the units themselves will be heated and cold with Electric split system heat pumps which require a roof mounted condenser those condensers are 44 in high uh they'll be
they'll be on the roof itself this diagram shows s the site the sight line from the street looking towards the building there's more than enough parit to screen all that equipment so there are separate condens
for each unit or well actually yes they're generally one per unit one the way these systems work these are um these are wall mounted cassettes in each room and generally you can put four wallmounted cassettes to one rooftop
condenser so there'll be effectively one per unit so it'll be each each unit has their own exactly and these are individually metered and things like that and what about the hallways how is that they they'll be a
there'll be another unit there'll be a common makeup air unit for the hallways but again those units won't exceed the height of these units and they'll be closer to the center so they'll they'll be and to the quite frankly if we get to the point that we feel we have a unit
that might be too high based on this we'll put a screen around it that's all I don't think we'll have one but if we do then we'll you know then we'll put a decorative screen around it so the screen match the uh building color it'll match the
building color yeah the material will be different but it'll be match the building color cover yeah that's so that's that's A7 we were just talking about yeah Mr we're up to A7 A8 now we're up
to A8 this is A7 next one will be A8 right okay and this is the last sheet this is basically let's just identify a 203 okay and this is this is one of the
elevation sheets that was included in the overall drawings that was submitted I put this in here just to show how the garage the the end access to the garage is the center access to the garage and then the archways at each opening now as
I said in the Burgess memo they question how the garage will the garage have mechanical ventilation the the requirement is an open garage effectively has to have 50% of the wall opening open and we don't so this will
be mechanically ventilated these opens are openings are decorative they'll let natural light into the garage a question of garage lighting I think you brought up the garage the there'll be again wall mounted lighting adjacent to the entries but in the garage themselves there'll be
surface mounted lights which you won't see the light source because it'll be up in the structure and the the light level in the garage will be kept at a minimum in the evening and then the a higher light intensity will be on motion
sensors when someone pulls into the garage but in any case the minimum the minimum foot candles required for a garage an enclosed garage that's what we'll go for we're not going to go we'll just provide a safe operating light
level within that Garage on a motion detector and what's the minimum excuse me what's the minimum what's the level I don't know the answer to that that right now but I I can that see I can work that out with the Mr Goose or M what's the uh height of your uh
underground garage you said five feet below grade it's five and a half feet below grade and it's 11 and a half feet so there'll probably be a 10- foot ceiling in the garage the garage requirement is 7 foot clear again the garage will be sprinkled as well so there'll be sprinkler piping there'll be
a dry sprinkler system in there just getting back the lights car pulls in there's already a minimum a minimum life level which you don't know what that is yeah and then as the car progresses lights are going to go on the
lights are going to you once you pass through the opening that leg of the building will light up the entire yes not going no we you don't want to stagger it it'll be confusing what the kar height under the garage I'm
sorry k your height under the garage K height from floor to the ceiling uh the floor to the ceiling is going to be probably 11 ft but the minimum height to any projections in the garage any duct work for the ventilation or any sprinkler system has to be a minimum of
s feet cannot be 11et because you Flor probably be 10et and so maximum you have 10 fo six 10 fo six but that's from top of the floor to the top of the top of the basement so you have the floor I have six six up and
five that five and a half down so I'm 11 and A2 fet floor to floor from garage floor to first floor less structure so I'll be 10 feet you you have um elevator Banks uh throughout
your garages we have four elevators in the building uh to be able to walk from your car to these elevators on the first sheet uh there are four elevators two in each building have front and rear entrances that allow for a
split so you'll you'll be able to get into the garage at the basement level through a secured Lobby and either go up to your floor or up to the lobby right I'm the the only other question I have regarding that is with emergency
vehicles for example an ambulance will an ambulance fit inside your underground garage no or they will have to go uh to a main entrance or to an end emergency exit they would I mean because an ambulance is basically to provide for an
ambulance you really want a a 14 foot clear okay the the only reason I ask is are you familiar with Copperwood in I am in Copperwood in Princeton the squad can get in there with their ambulance yeah that's the
only Garage in Princeton that they can do that I know I know so that's why I'm trying to find out if yeah this is gonna be like no it's not not we weren't planning on having they'll park outside and they'll
run the stretcher inside yeah all right um I was just going to suggest uh in terms of minimum lighting level in the garage at least 25 foot okay before you end up turning it on and it should really be brighter I mean
any garage that I've been into is much higher than 25 so I just want to you know we'll discuss it with the engineer and whatever he's comfortable with and you're comfortable with that's what we'll do isn't there emergency lighting on all the time anyway oh yeah okay yeah
and they'll have the building will have a generator okay yeah the emergency lighting just yeah no yeah it's selected it's selected circuits and controls different things Heavy Rain just for sake of this person excuse me like under
your flood and you you open garage here the door you have any pumping or something to pump the water out well yeah you will I'm ask question yeah you'll have to I mean that's just part of the garage say you have to but
you we will and we you know again it goes to one of the other comments about the the sewer level and the level of the of the sewer itself relative to the lowest level of the building and we it was there were questions in I think it
was was it Mr Gus's memo about yes and and that's something that during our construction document phase we're gonna we're going to work on we may have to pump it as we go through resolution compliance add
these requirements when you said sheet one you're talking about A4 first right yeah yes okay electric charging oh the electric charging
stations I think the way to do this in my my feeling is you have to have them both inside and outside but I'd like to talk to your Fire official to make sure he's comfortable with indoor charging stations I tell you right now Char I'm fine with that I mean you know
it's it's it varies area to area but you know you hear these horror stories so I would think thatas okay yeah you were speaking right Copperwood Copperwood is a uh
Copperwood is a uh no it's independent uh living it's a senior housing facility I'm very familiar with that project you voted for you're on the
what oh you're on the zoning board yeah don't hold that Eve coulson's on yes um this is this is all I had from a presentation standpoint but I did go through Mr gk's memo and I think I don't
take any exception in anything he's asking for I think that we have as I said before get the preparation of construction document you speak into the microphone I can't hear you I'm sorry oh sorry um I don't have any
problem with what you've asked for but I think some of them as we get further into the construction if we do um drawing preparation then I will talk to you about some of these Steve did Steve did you say you
don't Steve did you say over here uh did you say you don't have a problem with any of the U recommendations that Francis made okay I think there was again there's some things in here there's some
things in here um on page five I talk about you know your comment 4.02 0304 those are the ones that I say that as we get further into the specifics of this we'll work on that and I'll review
those with with you um let's see now the only other then so I went through Mr gk's memo and again those items that are questionable I think I talked about um some of the lighting and um then the
next memo is the Burgess memo of of February 12th and um he talks about the design of the Pavilion which I addressed it'll be consistent with the material with the building itself and then the lower level parking area he
talks about mechanical ventilation and we know we have mechan Steve is are you referring to Ed sas's memo not not David he's talking about the plan oh you're talking about D no
memo I'm talking I thought two oh two okay sorry sorry about thaty I'm sorry Steve if you could go back over um Ed's memo and what you
agreed to if there anything you don't agree to I didn't catch up sorry if you you were going over Ed memo but there was a confusion as to which memo you going over and can you go over that again did you have any issues with anything that he raised you know on the
burg memo I guess well there're two Burgess memos but both and both have the same date um this is the Ed sneak memo yeah oh no I agree with all that
yeah oh I do agree with it yes I take no exception to the me good I have one last question you can do it from the exhibits these colors that I see here
exhibits we direct yes tell me about okay but one thing in the packets that I presented the last week it's an 8 half by
11ct of the board the material board that I used in the last presentation three years ago or two years ago quite frankly is and uh so this is a picture of that
board this is um composite panels Hardy basically Hardy Board in different shapes configurations there Bardon baton there's some shingles there's again in there whites and Grays and yes it'll be that was the original proposal that's
the proposal now consistent okay so it's not9 monotone no no it's not mon right there there's some Stone on the ends of
the building let's see yeah the stone is the n walls are partially Stone we're going to mark this A9 yeah and and the Burgess member from David Novak you have no issues with that
you agree with everything in this memo the second the second Burgess memo yes okay second to the second memo I think I think David was a few minutes earlier than my mind you'll be
first oh my any any other questions yes I'm sorry Mr sneakers has a question I got it um with regard to the standing garages those freestanding pieces the 24 spaces um is it possible
to make them make ready for available electric vehicles in the future it's interesting I mean it's it's very simple to do that yeah yeah okay thank does the fire uh Chief have any issues with um those types of garages to have
charging stations but those those Make Ready Provisions can be on the front of the garage since that one person would share understood but that that's something that the chief is very um aware of and you know I can understand
the underground and potential for fire and the building going up but these are above ground garages and let him that's fine for and in a location that is satisfactory to okay and so the condition would be the um they'll make
them ready but the fire chief will approve the location if allow yeah okay you're okay with that right d right say yes okay par yes Carl p is
here our traffic engine but I think we've addressed parking issues number of parking modified laor that we're requesting but if anyone has additional questions about that he's the traffic
consultant the expert on all issues involving traffic okay well I thought our traffic uh professional had some unanswered questions on rep unless they been answered yes I
have reviewed it and they have addressed all the comments I don't have anys comments satisfi yes that's true there's a later memo oh there's a later memo yeah February 14th okay so let the record reflect that
all the uh dis all the questions quasi ra raised were addressed and accepted that is correct okay okay and then also present is our landscape Architects I wasn't going to
follow uh direct I think DNE responded to his issu but he's here if anybody has specific questions for the landscape architect Mr chairman I believe they've
addressed all our questions in the report so okay so they address all the issues you had with extra planting planting is not blocking ventilation so on and so forth correct thank you okay yeah they they also in the engineering
report uh addressed the two lighting comments 501 and 5.02 um with some updated drawings uh so the indication that there might be slight increases in the average level they've addressed to make sure
that there's no increase over the last approval so the lighting levels for the exterior will be similar to what was previously approved okay um I just had a quick question I don't know who's going to answer this um the so so the underground garages are new um are there
going to be signs to indicate the um the maximum height allowed inside the garage will that be posted somewhere does that have to be posted somewhere we have be posted at all entrances okay so that can
be if it's not already on our plans that can be a condition okay I don't I don't know if that's one of those sign packages that has to be because it's is is a required sign directional sign you know okay and that's great and I think
it is the lowest um entry point is seven feet is that right okay so I'm not parking my Amazon van in there anytime soon stay in the middle you stay the middle oh yeah if I go in
the middle maybe it goes it can get you just can't get out you can get in but you can't get out I can't put the luggage rack on top of my hum okay don't bike on it yeah the bike has to come off okay um it'll come off one way or
another witness yeah there was a question about you know the amount of parking the need for the amount of parking why we're we call this an enhancement that that we need order to E and Mr Ron Camp is here answer that I
just need to qualify first sure and you so please what's your full name John well and by whom were you employed in what self-employed spner okay what's
your educ I'll do this real quick undergraduate graduate Georgetown postgraduate certificate negotiations Harvard been in the field 44 years 29 licens in New Jersey licens is currently valid qualified over 100 hearings and trials in New Jersey and appear before
Planning and Zoning Board throughout the state not in a while okay we'll take it okay any um any issues with qualification okay accepted thank you okay had one issue to reest actually I
had two but Mr no jump on the affordable housing would for me and I concur with the opinion you've heard from your professionals that in the C world if if the only parking we were providing was underground parking we' be providing that for you to our residents here what's being provided to the residents
free is the surface parking and developers as was read to you are allowed to provide premium services for a fee that fee is the same for whatever customer chooses to use that premium service so that's completely consistent with with Co rules
um that was a late second round report but in the draft you act regs that are circulating now the same language appear so that that will be continued that the developers are allowed to provide additional premium services to to the best speak um one of the questions it was
asked was why the freestanding garages if you're already providing spaces um Mr Muka started to address short answer is to uh ENT cars people with motorcycles three motorcycles that want to have more protection for that unique vehicle that
you can get even in the enclosed garage maybe even a small trailer if somebody's doing a small sailboat or kayaks this is a place where people can put things that would actually be individually secure so you'll see cars and motorcycles and that sort of thing so it's a different kind of amenity than simply keeping you out
of the rain it's giving you a sheltered space or your chice essentially um the gentleman asked an interesting question what if everybody takes the garage doesn't that mean your your surface parking is going to be extra the answer is yes the problem is you don't know that until you built it and the
customers have decided whether or not they're willing to pay the premium so you can't not build it because you may actually need it um so right idea but the timing doesn't work to take advantage of that at least in the first program um and on the question of why so
many spaces um we are still providing the necessary minimum number of spaces in the surface configuration um so that the interior spaces are are a duplication of sort uh because we're still providing free available parking that meets the minimum requirement for the municipality um and one of the
reasons for that is you can think about designated spaces and all of the Interior spaces and garages are rented and designated for an individual um that becomes very inefficient parking um as your snowbirds go to Florida people are cruising um in a normal parking lot that
means 20 to 25 or more per of your parking U is for people who aren on site the time you don't have those trans of deficiencies if everybody owns their own space that space is theirs whether they've gone away for three months or not so by adding this kind of control parking it's going to be inherently more
inefficient than just a parking lot um and as DNE testified you earlier we're still under the rsis maximum so it's not as if we're overp parking for the kind of of parking kind of development that's Cur here but we're not taking advantage
of the municipality say the inac common lot for this use we know that a third of the people aren't going to be home at any particular time that won't be the case with rent bases so that's why it's more than we traditionally do but still less than what rsis would require um how
long would rsis to hard but the amendment wasn't didn't just make it a maximum that any town can can pick a number below it's a developer can propose a number below and the board can accept it so we're in that kind of environment a little bit more Lucy
simply pegging work excuse me you're talking about the snowbirds going toor and the spaces underneath being open didn't they also subas those spaces to other TS theoretically possible but I've never seen that actually
happen but possible that land isn't going to get in the business of of suing individual spaces no not if you're saying could they could they air and their sa to other people in the building I suppose you know somebody
has a guest say they might talk to their neighbor there there's no prohibition against that not that we thought of imping yeah I mean I mean to me it would make sense to utilize if they're not there well in all
the parking is underneath if I was a consultant and going to that that building they'll probably parking in 22 know that residence is away for three years the man the management stays that at that level of management here I don't expect that to occur because you've got all the the surface with it's not going
to pay for them to have a parking manager on staff doing that level of not asking for a parking manager I think people should have the ability to they does it have to be to prevent that another has be tenant there's so
many spaces I I don't if there's going to be a market for that well I'm not sure but I I wouldn't want to I have a question about the above ground garages yes are they required to be utilized for a
vehicle as opposed to boxes and storage yes different trailers no no no no not a trailer not a not a boat or but you know boxes of collectibles or Rags they not meant to be an alternative
for sell stor so so if you have storage in there that's not what it's we're renting it to you for I don't want to go so far be ridiculous that that somebody can't have tools on a wall or something I'm not talking storage sub okay so if someone is
storing uh boxes and whatever personal belongings there you're going to say something to them yeah to the extent that it's a the volume of of the material in that space is being used for storage and not for a vehicle or a trailer right yes of course management
would certainly say something about that okay but the facility itself is not designed for having storage um for individual uh uh residents it's other than their other
than their uh resident there's no other storage areas in in the facility anywhere that is there any excess storage spaces okay my experience provide storage that Stu goes in they never access it and they move
out pass away and St it isage that's why they have a reality show Storage Wars right that's why I'm sure you've seen Self Storage applications over the last year and there's one being built right
down the street from the municip so the last issue I have is tanding it's not functionally tandem because the single person a waer it makes sense that's all I have than you okay uh
I have no nothing further from my new thises on a direct basis but if there so unless there unless there are additional I'm only kidding I would have unless are add questions okay any any other
questions um last question when do you expect to to mobilize to start this this very quick this property is uh under the contract it's been through due
diligence um and um so we expect first of May first of May assuming 26 days after the resolution it's all in one phase yes is like one phase one phase two
whatever basically one side go up but the site is all be at one time as Mr knows we have to we have a pretty firm deadline on starting uh site improvements especially sanitary
sore um so we're moving as quickly as possible again we've gotten through due diligence so the buyer is looking for this approval looking for the resolution of approval so the
per and and and we said closing late April early that gr thank you thank you um professionals any other comments questions points that
you you need to make on this David uh quasi Ed ran no nothing for me I think I was the only one that didn't address their memo uh mine was dated February 12th 2025 the second veres memo um I believe the applicant has addressed all the comments in that memo so I thank
them for that okay every anybody else everything's been addressed okay great yeah no further questions here but there are a number of recommended conditions so I didn't hear any objections to any of those okay the the applicant has agreed to those conditions so we're all
good on that well I remember the conditions one is Dev uh there's if you want to react to them sure the the uh developers agreement as you
indicated um uh title 39 enforcement for traffic uh the updated sewer Wastewater discharge rate um determination and the potential allocation of additional flow
from Council which would also then trigger a possible reimbursement for flow uh improvements at the South Post Pump Station um the other waste water ones uh Mr Cohen talked about and said he was
okay with and that was it yeah I mean I yeah safing forward only if I may for moment just following up on what Francis said and Francis qu
me for the conditions are in 1.02 um by a CFO um and correcting the existing side amenities um 2.04 title 39 enforcement
you talked about that correct the utility is 4.01 correct um 4.03 03 which is a dog wash grooming station do we want to put that in oh they they're proposing one so yeah so that would
be at the swimming pool we talked about um the lighting we talked about that that's 5.01 and 5.02 well 501 and 5.02 are not applicable anymore they they've satisfied those okay I'm sorry and
5.03 um they indicated that the hours of Illumination waiver that they previously obtained will be abided by so there's no further change proposed for the hours of Illumination that's great thank you very
much you're welcome thank okay okay and then and then um you know other conditions were you're GNA make the the charging ready the garages uh surface
garages well I I thought they change that a bit um they'll identify locations Make Ready spaces of fire change well approv appr relocation and then on once approved they'll you know put make
ready to be installed if needed yeah and they indicated no not on the ground this is above above grade garages yeah they had indicat that they were going to science faes right yeah I could go through the
ones yeah and also I recommend minimum yep I have that also I could go for yeah go over your on the same page the underground spaces will be assigned
sorry okay he's gonna get there I'm gonna get there yep first underground spaces will be assigned they'll be bike racks in the front area what more do we want to say about that I'm sorry hold on number and
location subject to francis's approval hold on that variance with respect to the distance from the internal driveway that's still in effect we talked about the pool water um minimum Lighting in the garage5 foot
candles the Make Ready stations we talked about the old conditions will continue to apply and the ones in the various um reports you could put in there that there will be no uh EV charging stations in the uh sure
underground garage or the fire CH yep okay um okay so Fran you're good yeah I just wanted to say a couple other notes I had was the um they'll provide a decorative screen of any rooftop unit if it proves
to be visible color to match the building color okay and that the building amenities will be uh will not be open to the general public will serve the residents only no the
Y not the general public okay I do have a question what is a demonstration kitchen I saw that on there somebody might do a cooking class uh you know something like that you know the residents may want somebody to come in
and do baking and things yeah is that in the Pavilion no no it's off of the main dining area in the central part of the building that's fine near the near the future indoor
pickle ball U okay any anything else from the professionals nothing uh plenty board members any questions okay at this time I like to open it up to the public any questions from the public on this application
please step up to the microphone said your name and address for the record you'll be sworn in don't all Rush up um okay hearing none I'll move the uh public uh move to
close Okay well in favor say I I okay you had your chair car um any any other comments any questions comments from my board members let me just let me just ask David David are
there any there's no variances are there any waivers that they need I there's no sorry there's no new variances that are required the two waivers that they are requesting would for the tandem parking spaces as well as the excess parking spaces any
okay I'll entertain a motion to approve pb1 19-13 Second Amendment I'll make that motion to approve with the conditions as outlined by our attorney and wavers okay moov by Allan second by
Annis please call the role Mr Patel yes Mr shakow yes Mr panco yes Mr B yes M yes mayor Marte yes chairman
Clark yes motion carries congratulations okay make sure Curtis gets his okay um meeting Jour this project along with the village and the assistant living can work out this plan that I think is
open I hope that conru thank you