family photos market as well. We can do something for them >> in the building. How you doing this sir? >> Very good yourself. >> You feeling better? >> Yeah. You still sound congested?
there. >> South. Okay, I can follow right everybody. We have shared. >> I'm calling to order the business session meeting of the township council of West Windsor Township for December 8th, 2025.
Allison, can you please call the role? >> Gawas here. Gvers >> here. Mandel >> here. >> Weiss >> here. Whitfield >> here. >> And have we adequately noticed? Yes, we were adequately noticed on January 17th, 2025 to the times in the Princeton packet filed with the municipal clerk,
posted here at the township municipal building and on the township website. Please stand for the salute to the flag, individual with liberty for all. Thank you. We don't have any ceremonial matters this uh meeting. So, I'm going
to go right into public comment. Public comment is a three minute limit, 30 minutes. Uh I'm going to open public comment. Allison, has anybody signed up? >> Yes, I have uh Mr. John Church. >> Good evening, everyone. John Church, 11
Princeton Place. Madame President, as you know, I recently resigned from the zoning board after much thought, but I decided it was time and I want to give some new people uh uh the opportunity to work on this board. It's it's a lot of fun and challenging at times, but it's a great thing to do, and I really want
some new people to apply for the positions. Uh my term was to end anyway on January 14th, and I reluctantly decided not to apply for another four-year term. So anyway, this evening you're scheduled to advance first alternate Mike Garzio to full member in
order to fill the balance of Hank Jacobson's unexpired turn. Now with my departure, there are now two open positions. When new people join the board, they usually start a second alternate and work their way up as openings occur. I joined this way in
July 2015 when Himmont resigned from the board to take Christina Samante's place on council as she was moving out of town. So I do want to encourage residents to come forward and please apply to work on this board. You learn a lot about how the town works and it's
besides that it's actually fun at times and so please please people apply for this. uh alternate members uh take part in the discussions and can vote when full members are absent or have a conflict of interest. In fact, this happened several times when I was an
alternate. On the topic of zoning, I want to ask council to consider making some changes to our land use code. We've been getting many applications from people in single family dwellings who want to enlarge their houses above the usually prevailing 13% F, which means
floor area ratio ratio. This means that your usable floor area can't be more than 13% of your total properties area. But with housing prices the way they are and the growing need for people to accommodate relatives, I believe you should provide some relief here.
The issue, however, is that each particular zone comes under a separate code section and therefore each zone might need a separate ordinance. Ideally, it would be desirable to make more than one change at a time. I'll leave it to the creative powers of our attorney and our land use professionals
to determine if this is possible. I do think it would be desirable and I'll have a little more to say about this at the second public comment period. Thank you. >> Thank you, John. Is anyone else signed up? >> Yes. Uh Sammy. >> Uh hello. I'm Sammy. I'm from 18 Park
Hill Terrace. >> Excuse me. Um can we get your full name, please? Oh, sorry. Sammy Burgerer, uh, 18 Park Hill Terrace. I was here last month to, uh, talk a little bit about, you know, uh, transit and transport and such. Um, and, uh, I guess I'm here back
again cuz I like, you know, prostitizing. So, um, I just want to talk a little bit about it. I am drawing up a full sort of presentation and PowerPoint slides and all that stuff, but it's not ready yet. So, I'll keep coming back until it is. Um, I guess
where I just want to get started is in terms of actionable kind of things, you know, to start the process. Um, we have a problem with traffic on 571. And what my big point last time was was that it's not getting better on its own and it won't get better unless we do something.
Um, and I think that the first step before anything else, before any solution I can come up with or anybody else comes up with, the first step is diagnosing the problem. Um, and I don't think we have to do anything crazy here. Uh, I think if I saw something on an
agenda at some point now or in the future, which is like paying X amount of dollars for some outside consultant to come in and just look at our data or get data or to look at the basics. I think just a preliminary sort of investigation
by one person or a small team or whatever it is. I don't know the full process uh would be a great way to start. Uh because before we can start thinking about what is the best way to get people where they need to go without causing more traffic without um making
it more dangerous with more cars on the road or higher speeds or whatever. Before doing any of that, the question is where are the people trying to go? Who is trying to go where? Are the cars coming outside trying to get from Route 1 to you know 33 or something or the turnpike and they just happen to like
Princeton Heightstown Road for that purpose? That would be a little weird. Maybe that's what's happening. Um is the problem that a lot of people are trying to go to specifically Carnegie Center from inside of our own communities. Are there people from outside trying to go into the Carnegie Center area? Um and so there are all number of possibilities
about where cars are coming where they're going and fixing those problems could be an entirely different solution which could be in our hands or could end up being out of our hands depending on what the actual breakdown is. Um, and I don't want to suggest anything before we
know that because there's nothing worse than like spending however much money, millions of dollars on some bus project you're sure is going to make things better, but then it turns out the buses weren't actually the reason the cars were on the road in the first place. And so you spend a lot of money and it doesn't help anything. And nobody wants that. Um, we don't want to spend money
for nothing. We want things to be effective. And I totally understand that, which is why I'm saying we start with some preliminary sort of investigation stuff. Get the data so that we know how to get started. Um, thank you all very much. >> Thank you. Does anybody else signed up to speak?
>> I have no one else on the list. Would anybody else like to speak? >> Seeing none, I will close the first public comment. And at this point, I'll move to Marina. >> Yes. Um,
today DPW began collecting leaves in zone 2. Brussian leaves must be in separate piles for collection. The 2025 holiday house decorating contest is going on as we speak. West
Windsor residents are encouraged to decorate their homes and enter the contest. It's a great opportunity for families to work together. Registration deadline. Actually, it passed. So, um
I guess winners will be announced at the township council meeting on Monday, December 22nd. And then, um the Murphy administration has issued a statewide drought warning.
Um it ha uh the department of environmental protection is closely monitoring drought indicators and water supply to ensure we have enough water across the state. While there are currently no mandatory restrictions in
place, it is up to each of us to take precautions now and do our part by conserving water use in and around our homes and businesses. Remember to use water wisely. The goal of a drought warning is to preserve and balance
available water supplies to avert more serious water shortages in the future. Those are my announcements. >> Thank you. Mayor, did you want to make any comments on the public comments to start with? >> Yeah. Yeah. I will answer every public
comment and you pushed the button so I'll go last because I'll talk for a length. So first I want to thank start by thanking Mr. Church for his service on zoning board. He's been a long time attending council meetings keeping us
honest and giving his uh opinions whether I like it or not and I appreciate that very much and we have had lot of uh discussions outside the meeting um with his thoughts. So thank you very much and I'm glad to hear you will keep coming and you're only
quitting the zoning board. So I hope to see you here with budget coming up in few months. Um um I have two bridge updates. One uh uh okay and one good. Uh Clarkville road bridge u the um NJ dot
county west did meet with Amtrak. We had a meeting last week. Uh next meeting is being scheduled. They did give uh some homework to NJ uh DOT to come up with a plan. Uh the biggest sticking point is
going to be how much outage Amtrak can give NJ DOT to work on that bridge. Uh that's the biggest challenge since uh the uh power lines have to be deenergized uh before they can safely work on the
bridge and NJOT needs time to um I'm told that they have examined both ends of the bridge. They have not actually looked at very carefully at the middle of the bridge at the bridge deck. um they're only going by picture so far and
they need outage of Amtrak lines to um to actually look at the look at the uh bridge deck. Um uh it takes an hour to deenergize, an hour to energize. So if Amtrak gives us overnight say 5 hours, then actual working time is only 3 hours
since you lose 1 hour on both ends. We're trying to put as much pressure on Amtrak as we possibly can. um trying to come up with a solution. Anybody who has dealt with Amtrak knows it's not easy. Um
so again uh unfortunately I don't have any firm timeline or any firm plan as as of this time. NJOT is taking the lead. The county is pushing them. uh county engineer has been uh very nice and kind
and talked to me um offline all the time. I did have a conversation with him on Friday and he's going to do as much as he can to push NJOT. He did tell me a few things we can do. So we are working on it but at at this point I don't have
a firm date or plan uh other than to say Amtrak and NJOT is working on on that bridge. Um some people had given suggestions last time to check the timing at village road and quaker bridge since the traffic pattern had changed. I
did talk to the chief and he told me that they had already done that even before last meeting they had tried to do that but um again as I've learned uh during seven years as mayor when an intersection is failing when you try to fix one direction the other direction
gets worse. So that didn't have they didn't have too much luck because um it was just piling up on village road when they increase time on Quaker bridge. But I have encouraged them to keep taking a look at it, keep uh keep looking at it
and if possibly um one day they did have a uh police officer station there manually controlling the bridge. So I will encourage them to do that too. Uh the second suggestion was to change timing on Clarksville and North Post and that that can be done and I have passed
that suggestion to the county since there's not that much traffic on Clarksville. I think the Clarksville um green signal can be very minimal and most of the time it can be green on green on North Post Road. That suggestion has been passed to uh county
engineer and I will check with him um if uh that has been done or not done. So that's about Clarksville Road Bridge. Um on the good note, Milstone Road Bridge will finally open on Friday. Uh they may
not be able to the county did confirm they will open it on Friday. The deck may not be paved. uh since the temperature is not right and they will come back in spring and do it but it will be fully operational and fully safe and after Friday um we should see all
the issues uh with Cranberry and uh the other traffic light hopefully dissipate. So that will that should be uh that issue should be solved. Um, sir Ronaldo asked a lot questions uh uh last uh at
the last council meeting. We did replace this uh uh uh speed sign 25 mph. Um um as soon as you turn on um as soon as you turn on uh Alexander Road from 571
um the uh the sidewalk repair on Alexander Road hopefully hopefully will happen next week. It involves concrete. It involves concrete. And one of the things I have learned is uh uh concrete needs certain temperature before that
that can be poured. So we are hoping next week the temperatures are going to be a little bit better. So they're hoping to uh pour concrete on Wednesday and um if not as soon as possible. Um those are the two updates out of the
questions that he had. Um repaving of Harris Road. As I said, I did talk to I did talk to Francis about the options we have and uh we will make a decision within next week or so as to which way we want to go, which direction we want
to go. Uh that was that. Um, one of the things I do want to point out that as um, some of you may know uh, the federal tax benefit for solar panels are expiring at the end of this year 31st.
So, we did get and process a lot of permits for solar solar panels. But unfortunately there are some that are not going to be done in time because after we give them the permit they have to actually install the uh install the panel get it inspected and I believe
they still need a okay from PSNG before uh December 31st. So we are going to reach out to those people and give them an option if they want to proceed. We will we will process the permit as expediously as possible. But um anything
that has not been processed yet is very unlikely to be finished before December 31st. The state law doesn't allow us to do uh to move per salamand salam. It's strictly first come first serve and it's
a little crazy uh because the Princeton University permit which was like millions of dollar is treated the same as if I'm doing the deck. If I'm stick uh if my deck is stuck behind Princeton University permit, I'm just
out of luck. Um and as of yesterday when I spoke to Jason there were 63 permits ahead of that that were still being uh still pending. I did authorize all the old time that they they could possibly
do and they have been doing that. That's why so many solar permits. He did give me the number. I forgot to bring the number with me, but we did improve approve a lot of solar permits, but still um I think about 12 of them are still left and they're probably not
going to be done. Um and then before I go answer your question, I just want to thank uh rec department for the drone show yesterday. Majority of people liked it. Some people had uh some criticism um about the
content. Some had just don't like the drone show, they want the fireworks back. Uh given that Marina just read the um drought warning. Uh it would not been appropriate to go back to fireworks. So again, uh this is entirely financed
through the rec department trust fund. Um and they didn't raise as much money they had hoped to. They were hoping to raise 10,000. They only raised about 2500. So we will have to figure out next year or they will have to figure out
next year what way they want to go. Uh but they did fund it completely out of their trust fund. Um regarding your question about 571 traffic a lot of people have uh said that people drive like crazy. I mean I have heard that complaint again and
again and again. And um you suggest doing a study. I I remember maybe four years ago, Middle Sex County did a study countywide of all the traffic network and Andrea had suggested to the county that Mercer County do the same and we
didn't get anywhere. They don't have the money. Mercer County told us that unless somebody else funds it, they won't do it. So, it's not solving a problem on one one road. road. I mean 571 is a 571 is a county road. So they have the
jurisdiction but it's not just solving u problem on 571. When the uh cranberry road had a problem the traffic ended up on 571. So you have to uh you have to take a comprehensive look and I always
tell a story about 2 years ago I met somebody um who who was in New Jersey went to Middle East came back New Jersey I was explaining to him um how the town has grown since I moved here in '94 and a question he asked stopped me uh flat
out he asked me how many new roads have you built and the answer is unfortunately nothing other than village road that little bit there's no new road I mean we drove we just connected one drive extension the state is putting more and more pressure to build housing
all the time when you build housing the people have to go somewhere somehow and next round is I mean we haven't concluded um round four obligation but the attorney will tell you they're going crazier than third round uh they want
higher density more density housing. If you put a dense housing, people have to drive somewhere and if you don't build new roads, um there's not much you can do other than drive carefully. Now, police have taken initiative. If you are
on Nixel, uh you did get the police uh report. Uh the chief has put out a report. They are trying to do a goal zero initiative. They did put out a report as to how many tickets they wrote um during the last week and what type of
tickets they wrote but again they will tell you 70% of tickets are written to Wester resident. So it's us and our neighbors and our friends who are getting the tickets and driving like crazy. So people need to people need to internalize that. I mean yesterday I was
at the Girl Scout um gold ceremony and one of the kid did a project on traffic safety and she presented it to high school north kids and I told her she should come and present it to the adults. Adults needed more than the kids and I partly joking partly serious that
she should come and present it to the adults or make it available to the adults. So again we uh we do have our police who keep record of all the tickets they write, all the accidents they ride. So they can focus on problem area, most problem areas. I will go
back, we have our own traffic sergeant who is expert in traffic. Ask him what else we can do. Um but essentially we have four or five police officers on the road 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. They write their share of tickets. Um
and you can easily tell by looking at the um revenue in the budget, the ticket revenue in the budget. You can see that they do write their own share of tickets. Um [clears throat] but uh there's no easy solution here. I mean we
have more cars, more people state is putting more pressure on us to build and uh East Windsor builds it, we are going to get it. I mean somebody from Plansburg going to Costco is going to pass through West Windsor. I mean I can't say no can't close at my border.
So we will continue to work. We will continue to work with the with the police but the solution has to be more comprehensive countywide to look at uh the county is looking at entire old Trenton road from Hamilton border to east border they need to do something
like that countywide for all the major roads route one 571 Cranberry road and then come up with a solution that's not going to solve the problem completely I mean as I mentioned before several intersections in town are
failing and traffic engineer will tell you when they fail they fail. I mean there's nothing you can do. No magic bullet other than reducing the number of people getting out in the car. So sorry about being on soap box but that's
frustration for me as well. So I think that's it unless I forgot something. >> Thank you mayor. Um just to remind everyone there is a 571 project that um is between um Clarksville not
Clarksville uh yeah between Clarksville Road and um >> Cranberry Cranberry and Wallace Road intersection that does involve a bit of traffic calming and adding some lanes but that's only uh going to be for that
section of road and even that particular project is a phase one phase two that was supposed to have started already. The county ran into some issues with um uh some prior approvals that had not been done by one of the state
organizations. So, it's been held up a little bit. So, there are some plans and just if I can point out to um uh to Mr. Burer, the county held a meeting uh I think it was in March uh just to discuss
um transit within the area. It was an overall meeting. It wasn't a study. It was more uh start a discussion. Um and this this particular road, for instance, is part of not only the whole county, but is a conduit from all over the
place, uh as are a number of West Windsor's roads in addition to it just being a county road. So, you might want to think about going to talk to the county um and see where they are and what um uh you know what their next plan
is. I don't know if they're going to hold another one of these meetings. Uh I think Linda, you were at that one also, right? The county meeting, you were part of that. Um but it might be something you'd want to look at to, you know, get an invite to it uh if they if they do hold it next year. Was it was rather
interesting uh dayong meeting. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Um, moving along to administration. We'll go into council comments. Uh, Martin, >> uh, be very brief today. No, it's not the norm. Just, uh,
everyone laughs, but I will be brief. Uh, just, uh, we had a great time this weekend. There were many, uh, activities and community events. I want to thank everyone who put those together. I know majority of my council colleagues will probably elaborate on specifics of each event. So, I just want to say thank you for the to the community because it's
wonderful to see everyone come out and just also wanted to wish a happy Hanukkah to those who uh celebrate Hanukkah coming up. Thank you. Brief. Told you >> that was brief. >> Thank you. >> So, yeah, >> thank you. Um again, um this past
weekend, um um Westminster Volunteer Fire Company held its annual Breakfast with Santa event. Um it was it's a very popular event. The members were very busy um since Friday um prepping for the
event and uh we had a record of 1,200 plus um people in attendance and that does not include all the volunteers and members um who were working for last 3 days. So we probably um crossed close to
1300 people who ate um at the event. Um um this this year um there were many um um other volunteers who attended that event uh who worked uh with the um
volunteer members of the fire station very closely were the boy scouts. We had um the choir from um the apical um group from High School North who came and sang. The there was a band from Growers
Middle School who came um and had their um share of um entertainment for all who attended the event. Um um kids of all ages and I won't kids can
be any age. They enjoyed touring the fire station um getting into the trucks and so it it was a very very popular event. Um I'm still recovering from that event. Um but we also had the um mayor already mentioned about the tree
lighting and drone show. It was very popular. I did get some feedback from many residents and again it's a mixed feeling. Um but it was a nice show. every everything this year. The music was really nice, the singing and the everything that was really good.
>> Um I do want to remind people the next um event um that our volunteer fire companies would be um doing is the operation Santa that everybody um looks forward to. December 13th and 14th um station 44 would be going around. Um
December 17th, 18th and 19th, station 43 would be going around. So if you follow them, you should be able to see the um list of streets on those dates um to see when your neighborhood would be covered. Um they are volunteers, so any donations
to them is appreciated. During the uh operation Santa, many of the volunteer members um or their elves would be walking around um if there is um giving out um candy uh canes but also collecting
donations. So if you can please do so. >> That's it. Thank you. >> Okay, Dan. >> Thank you. Um don't have any prepared comments, but I think I was I'd like just address some of the public comments
today. So um to Mr. church. Your comment about increasing the FAR was very timely because I literally just got a phone call from a a resident the other day that the exact same issue that you um mentioned about people wanting to expand their home and they're running into
these issues where they're out of that range just by a small amount. But that, you know, triggers a whole process which is very expensive um for a home home owner to to undertake. And it's more relevant these days now because of the
the the the whole housing challenges that we have where pe people are deciding to stay put and make investments into their homes here as opposed to maybe 20 years ago if you wanted a bigger house you would just move into a bigger house because there was ample opportunities. Those
opportunities don't exist these days. And so people are willing to make investments in their own homes, which is actually a good thing for the community, but they run into this roadblock um because of the FAR. So I think it's something that we should dig into a little bit more and see how we might
consider um making that change. Um regarding traffic, I'd be interested in having a more detailed conversation with you to understand sort of more the nuances of what you're observing and what your sort of high level ideas are. But as uh Andrea mentioned, I think it's
also an opportunity to have that same conversation with our county commissioners. They have public meetings on a regular basis similar to this that you can um talk to them about and happy to to chat with you about those opportunities as well.
That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Dan. Sammy, I don't have much to add on on the traffic issues you raised, but we did we did talk u early November and you know about all that, but I I do think you know mayor and and everyone else is
probably saying that the county needs to do a comprehensive study. That's probably the best best way to go. I mean applications come in and there are traffic studies that are related to the application but if you want a big comprehensive study done on all the major arteries
going through West Windsor that that's that's a major undertaking and a big cost. So just I think we're all being honest about about that but we appreciate you coming and bringing that up. Um, and to John Church, our dear our
dear friend there. We I can get over here. >> Thank you. Thank you for your your long dedicated service on the zoning board. You you did a a great job. We always count on you to read all the materials and and ask the ask the questions um
that need to be asked. So that that's um tremendous service to the uh residents of the township. So, um, we appreciate all all that you've you've been done and you you could probably mentor many people coming in and, you know, what to
look out for or question or or what what might need to be changed in your opinion. You know, once you once you come off, you you've seen a lot many years and a lot of different applications and heard from our residents. So, um, just a a big a big thank you for for all that work. That's
good. Uh, what else? um breakfast with Santa. I'm not going to say much more. Um the firehouse it was big big success. Uh Sonia and I were there. Um must have taken at least 50 75 people to do all the work that it does. I mean you have
to we were cleaning kitchens at least I was and mopping floors last Wednesday and the health department has to certify the event the next day because you're serving food. So everything has to be spotless and it's a lot of work but >> Yeah. Yeah. But we pulled it off.
Everybody knows the drill. Everybody know knows what they have to do, their assignments. And then they come back another day or two and then we got to decorate the uh the Christmas tree or the holiday tree and uh mop up the floors and set up the tables and fire
police are putting out the cones outside. So, it's a tremendous um effort, but everybody really enjoys this tradition. And I think the residents also enjoy coming coming in having a bite to eat and getting that family photo or with your kids uh with Santa.
Speaking we even have it doesn't matter the age you mentioned doesn't matter how old or young you are. Right. So we have a great we get this great annual um picture with Santa each year and that that's really nice. >> Oh we we have to give this to you so you could send it out. Yeah.
>> And uh yeah the drone show that that went off was actually nice weather. little chilly but but no big win. So that that went off. So if you have any any comments or suggestions, just um send it in to the rec commission, right? That's guess would be the best avenue.
Let them know what you think. Um high school kids did a great job. Uh first edition um ac cappella. So they that was that was very very nice. Um I guess Macaffries had was it hot chocolate? >> Hot chocolate and cookies. >> Hot chocolate and cookies. So um we
thank them for that and and all the uh sponsors who also donated um towards that. So that that was delightful uh evening and all those celebrating happy Hanukkah to uh to everybody. Okay. Thanks.
>> All right. Thank you, Linder. And thank you for all your um all your work. And uh when we were looking we were looking all over for Linda for the picture and we hadn't heard from her and she was out there in her green outfit directing the cars and freezing and stuff like that
and she finally came in. We were able to do the picture. >> She was busy doing her fire police job then that a couple years it was like pouring rain constantly. People were getting stuck. We had to put out boards so they weren't you know they were >> working in the field. So >> I'll take >> Yeah. You you came in. You weren't
icicles weren't hanging from you. So, it was a good day. Sometimes that happened. >> It was nice. It was >> And then and then Sonia was the one manning this booth, taking pictures for I don't know how many hours, six hours, 5 hours, whatever it was. So, um I think uh you you guys probably got pretty
exhausted by the by the end of that one, but well worth it. Um, the fire department makes a few bucks on this and uh something like,300 people and I think they were all in there at one time because it was it was a very organized
zoo. So, shall we say it was really uh and the food was great and and Sonia's husband is in there cooking from god knows how early in the morning. So, uh it's a it's a really great uh volunteer effort. >> It's it's a wonderful community event. I
think um you know the while the the fire company does make some bucks over on it but for most parts it's a great community event to bring community together and celebrating. >> Yeah. >> I want to wish everyone a happy Hanukkah
which starts on December 14th this year. Um and I also want to remind everybody to shop local and shop West Windsor now more than ever. Um, we're going to, um, we're still having a problem over at the
on Clarksville with the businesses there. It's not getting, uh, much better for them. Uh, the people on this side of Clarksville can get to those businesses relatively easy. So, I think we've we've um gone through both social media and
through the website, and I think we've shown that uh that it's not difficult to get there from this side, but they're still losing business from the other side. So, um we probably need to make that up a little bit. Uh Sonia and I are going to be meeting with some of the
local businesses next Wednesday in the area affected by the Clarksville Bridge closing. We're going to be meeting with Kathy Kathy Guzman who's the small business liaison from New Jersey Economic Development Authority and with some of
the business owners. Uh the two of us got to meet with the NJA when we were at the League of Municipalities conference. We told them the story of what's going on over there where there's a bridge closing that looks like it's going to be long term and it's hurting some of the
businesses. and um somebody got in contact with us very quickly and said they'd be like like to come out and talk to our people, see how they can help. So, we're excited to be able to offer this and um if that works out, we can offer opportunities to
other local businesses in the new year. Uh also, between 1 and 2 p.m. before the business meeting, you can join Sonia and me for one of our famous local chitchats. Uh we'll be having lunch in Compuanos. be invited to stop by and we
are encouraging everybody while in Village Square Shopping Center to please plan on stopping at the stores today and doing some business. Um I was also speaking to Kelly today who manages that particular shopping center and she said
they that people are struggling. They do need some help there. Uh so everybody can still use your help. Some environmental things coming up. Uh tomorrow I'm going to be meeting with the watershed and other towns in the Asen pink watershed about the regional
MS4 plans to improve the water quality. Um we have an exciting opportunity there which we're going to take to work on a regional solution uh to that issue. We've even gotten some money from the um New Jersey D to um pay for a study that
usually the towns have to pay for on their own. But because we're being very innovative and trying to work as a regional group, D decided we're worth investing in and they're going to help uh they've given a grant to about
$200,000 to the watershed to do a joint study. So we're going to be looking to um join that and then on Thursday I'm going to have a separate meeting with the upper Millstone watershed which is just starting on that journey right now.
So, uh, hopefully the acupank group can be a good, um, segue into going into the upper milestone also. And, uh, we'll also be doing our kickoff meeting for the sustainable Jersey PSEG grant that
West Windsor got, uh, next week, um, on virtual meeting. Also, uh, events I attended, of course, station 43, the breakfast, and our tree lighting with the drone show. and up and coming. There's going to be a grand opening on
Saturday at 1:00 at uh with a new Rihanna Saloon at 43 Princeton Heightstown Road, which uh of Yeah, >> makes sense. Yeah, it's right in that little area there. So, um we'll probably
go to that. Moving along. Uh Allison, do you have any announcements? >> Um I do not. Oh, okay. All right. Then we can go right into the public hearing.
>> Okay. 2025-18, an ordinance amending and supplementing chapter 82 fees section 82-12 health of the township code of the township of West Windsor 1999. >> Okay. I'm going to open the public
hearing on this ordinance. This is one that was introduced at the last meeting and that was discussed at the board of health meeting uh before that. Does anybody wish to speak on this ordinance? Okay. Seeing none, can I have a motion
to close the hearing? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Gowas. >> Yes. Chvers. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Whitfield? >> Yes. >> Mandel? >> Yes. And can I get a motion to adopt ordinance 2025-18?
>> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Gawas. >> Yes. >> Chavers. >> Yes. >> Weiss. >> Yes. >> Whitfield. >> Yes. >> And >> yes. All right. Consent agenda. Resolution 2025-R254
establishing January 1st, 2026, New Year's Day and January 19th, 2026 Martin Luther King Jr. Day as official township holidays minutes September 8th, 2025 business session. September 8th, 2025
close session bills and claims. >> Does anyone wish to pull anything? Seeing none, can I get a motion to approve? >> Salute. Second >> vocal >> gawas. >> Yes. >> Javers, >> yes. We >> Yes. >> Woodfield, >> yes.
>> Mandel, >> yes. And recommendations from administration and council clerk. >> 2025-R255 authorizing the appointment of Michael Garzio to fill the unexpired term as member of the zoning board of adjustment
to expire January 14th, 2028. 2025-R256 authorizing the refund of property tax overpayments. 2025-R257 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute the reimbursement agreement with Avlyn Watch Communities, Inc. for solid
waste collection costs for calendar year 2024. 2025-R258 authorizing the business administrator to purchase HP printer and toner for the tax assessor office from SHI International Corp. Under the New Jersey
Cooperative Purchasing Alliance, contract number CK04, subcontract 24-38 with the County of Bergen, $3,65,96 2025-R259, authorizing the business administrator to purchase technology supplies and
services from CDW government under the Educational Services Commission Cooperative Pricing System, ESCJ, number 65, MCESCC. CES bid number ESCJ AA226
technology supplies and services for $35,74263 2025-R260 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute a professional services agreement with Speasel Architectural Group Inc. for professional architectural services for upgrades to
the locker rooms and concession facilities at the waterworks pool facility. $31,250 2025-R261 authorizing the business administrator to purchase 16 picnic tables for
community park and waterworks under the Educational Services Commission Cooperative Pricing System ESCJ number 65 MCESCCPS bid number ESCJ2425-01 for 25,681630
30 cents. 2025-R262, authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute an easement modification agreement for 43 Benford Drive. 2025-R263 authorizing release of partial reimbursement of funds to Avalon Bay
Communities, Inc. for the project known as Princeton Junction Train Station Redevelopment PB20-15 Route 571. 2025-R264 authorizing the chief financial officer to increase the professional services
agreement with ACT Engineers, Inc. for miscellaneous engineering services in the amount of $1,200 for a total not to exceed $3,700. 2025-R265 authorizing the chief financial officer
to increase the professional services agreement with Aurora and Associates for miscellaneous engineering services in the amount of $500 for a total not to exceed $3,800 2025-R266 authorizing the mayor and clerk to
execute a professional services agreement with Geotrek Environmental and Surveying LLC for professional lands Surveying services for the next phase of digital map tax map creation $120,000
2025-R267 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute a developer agreement between West Windsor Township and Chick-fil-A Inc. PB24-10 block 7 lot 59.02 02 2025-R268
authorizing the mayor to execute amended green acres project agreement number 17 with the state of New Jersey DP to increase green acres funding by $1 million for a total of 10,225,000
in funding 2025-R269 authorizing the business administrator to purchase one 2025 Ford Bronco 4x4 vehicle for the division of code enforcement from Pamis Ford, Inc. under Bergen County Co-op number CK04,
bid number BC B24-23 for 31,59.50 2025-R270 authorizing the business administrator to purchase four 2026 Ford utility interceptor vehicles and selected
options for the police department from Charles S. Winner Inc. DBA winner Ford under New Jersey state contract number 20 fleet-01189 for $178,76620-R271 authorizing said I just saw that now.
Sorry, that's 2025. We'll correct that. -271 authorizing the business administrator to purchase emergency equipment including installation for four police department vehicles from emergency accessories and installations EAI under the New Jersey state contracts
number 17 fleet-0000761 17 fleet-719 17 fleet-00768 and 17 fleet-748 were 64,87 $72.64
and an additional amount of $5,369 for an amount not to exceed $7,178.73. >> We're getting a few things done at the end of the year. Um, does anybody wish to um pull anything from here? Seeing none, can I get a motion to
approve 2025R255 through 2025-R271? >> So moved. Second. >> Gawas, >> yes. Gvers, >> yes. >> Weiss, >> yes. >> Woodfield, >> yes. >> Mandal, >> yes. Thank you. There's no introduction
of ordinances, so I'm going to open up the second public comment of three minute limit per person. Does anybody wish to go up for the second public comment? >> Uh yes. Thank you, Madam President. Again, John Church, 11 Princeton Place.
I'm going to switch gears a little bit. Uh talk about inflation. It's on everybody's mind. Okay. I'm a chemist. I'm not an economist. Uh so I'm way out of my depth here, but I did take an introductory course in economics in graduate school. One of the things we
discussed was the law of supply and demand. Now, if this is obvious, but if demand outpaces supply, then prices naturally have to rise. In the opposite case, of course, prices fall. So, we're in a situation these days where our
population has increased substantially and we have tremendous demand on goods and services for food, housing, everything, you name it. So in this situation like this uh prices are bound to rise. Uh and we got we got to do all
these things and how are we going to do it? Um hopefully domestic production can rise enough to offset this trend which is especially harmful to those of us seniors who are on fixed incomes mostly. These same factors are operating to
increase the demand in housing everywhere with prices rising to unprecedented levels here in West Windsor. This is one reason that I believe we should adjust our housing codes as I mentioned earlier. This would permit single family homeowners to more
easily enlarge their houses without having to come to the zoning board for variances which is expensive and timeconuming. At the same time, Madame President, we should firmly resist proposals to allow more than one principal residence on a
single property as has been proposed in our legislature. If put into effect, this would cause very serious strain on all of our resources, sewers, you name it, everything. So, I think we should try to continue to uh oppose this trend.
I don't know where it is in the legislature right now, but this is not going to be good for for West Winds or in fact for everybody. So, whatever you can do to help oppose this trend, I'd be much appreciated. Uh, one more thing about the Clarkville Road bridge. Okay,
now many, many years ago, the bridge was replaced. Uh, it used to be, some of you who've been here a while might remember that it was a wooden plank bridge for a while. And my kids even used to call it the rickety sticky railroad bridge. Rickity click click click. So the bridge
was replaced and at that time they they must also have had to cut the Amtrak power lines down to allow the bridge to be replaced. So if we could look back in history and find out what Amtrak did at that time and how it was handled, that might help with the current situation,
which is indeed very very bad for everyone. And we're hoping that the the bridge can be fixed without too much delay and we can get that road open again. So thank you very much for your attention. Thank you, John.
Hey, >> um, >> can you wait until No, you could you come up. I was just going to say you want to wait >> if you can wait number two, right? >> Let him finish public comment. >> Yeah. Um, I just wanted to say thanks to everybody. I mean, as I >> just give your name and
>> Oh, sorry. 18 Park Hillary. >> You have to say it every time. He has he has been coming for 30 years and he still has to repeat it. >> Well, yeah. Yeah. Well, this is my second time. I'm still getting it in the head. Um, so I just wanted to say thank you. I mean, uh, this is like my second
time coming to one of these meetings, so I'm still learning a lot about what's county, what's local. Um, so thank you all. I'm glad to see you all care about it. Um, uh, it's encouraging to see. I know it's a hard problem. I don't want to ask you all to make miracles happen out of nothing when it's not even your
jurisdiction. I just think it is important to you know think it would be great if the county could help us but if they can't help us it is us who may have to deal with the consequences so what is there in our purview that we can do and that's just kind of um all that I really want to you know push for you know just
what can we do if we need to um but yeah thank you all um for letting me know and I'll keep thinking about it >> thank you and um we're you know we this is our public comment but mo the council people are always available. Uh email if
you wanted to meet with people, you know, we're always available to talk. Cheers. All right. Now, we um going to have any other public comment at this point? No, no more public comment. I will close the second public comment. Mayor, did
you have some comments? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, first, uh I forgot one of the important things in my report earlier. Thanks, Marina, for reminding me. Our new website is going to go live on Friday. It will not be perfect. The first step was just copying what was on
the existing website. But the new website is lot more um lot easier to manage to modify. So again once it goes online whatever your suggestions are just please send it to us. We will first
fix any errors any mistakes and then implement new features as we go along. So again this Friday we hope to um we hope to get um the website up and again John tangentially mentioned something um
you are referring to ADU I assume that the state is talking about um forcing all township to allow ADU right now no townships can allow ADU and coming back to your issue ADU is uh additional unit you can build on your
own home allow allows that in some extent. Um current law says each township has their own options. The state is working on a legislation to force every township that they don't have a choice. If you want to go and build a second ADO on your home uh on
your lot, you can go and do that. Um now again if such a legislature if we request you please call and tell the state where are all the double the number of cars are going to go because essentially you're building I mean not everybody will build but even if 10%
people decide to build where the 10% additional cars are going to go those are the kind of things that happen at the state that we don't have any control over people don't pay attention to and they then they come and say hey mayor why are you not doing anything about traffic I mean if you give me 10% more
people I can't tell them you can't get out of the house but you can go on Tuesday she can go on Wednesday I mean India does that even number license plate odd number license plate if you do here there will be a riot so uh but
those are the kinds of policies that the state pursues that have effect on you but you don't even know that's happening and because John mentioned about edu that's what triggered my thought that you're talking about traffic that will definitely add at least 10%. And over
time, I mean, if you see your neighbor building and making half a million dollar on small unit, you'll be tempted to do that too. So eventually everybody will do that and state is going to force everybody to do that unless people call their legislator and say this is crazy.
We can't handle traffic right now where additional 10% traffic going to go. So thanks. >> Thank you. Um going into council reports um Linda uh the shade tree commission's normal
meeting for December that which would be the 4th uh Wednesday was cancelled because that's December 24th. So they having a special meeting um on Wednesday December 10th 6:30 p.m. in uh conference
room B here municipal government. >> Thank you Dan. So, the recreation commission met last week. A lot of the conversation was the planning for the drone show and tree lighting. Uh there was some discussion
about uh fundraising and how we can do a better job going forward in raising funds. I made a recommendation that um that they create a subcommittee within the recreation um commission that focuses on fundraising that it shouldn't be just like a one-off thing. One of the
things that they quickly came to the conclusion in this specific event was that they they waited too long to start advertising it and trying to commit and and I pointed out that this really should be a a year-long effort. It's not really event driven.
>> I think fall probably is a bad time to have a fundraising event when there are a lot of other fundraising happening everywhere >> and in general. This fall was particularly bad because we had all the food fundraising events occurring. >> It's really hard to get people to want
to give a lot of money for a drone show when they're trying to give money for somebody to eat. >> Exactly. So again, the point being is that they need to think a little bit more programmatically over the course of the year. How are they going to do this and sort of institutionalize that process? And they were actually incredibly receptive of that. And
coincidentally, um there has been a um a pool subcommittee that really doesn't really meet anymore. And um Ron comes to every single commission meeting now. And so there was no real need to have a separate committee for the pool since or
subcommittee for the pool since he's available during all the standing meetings. So he's probably going to, you know, just flip his role a little bit and um focus on that. So, I think that we'll we'll see them make plans to do that over the next year. Uh, also
they're, you know, excited that, as you may have seen, we passed two resolutions for spending today on new picnic tables and the bathroom renovation. Um, they're still working. >> I'm the bathroom renovation. >> So, we're the bathroom renovation person. >> Yeah.
>> Sure. That hot water is ready. >> I've been waiting since for 20 years >> since the pool opened. They're very excited too. Um, and there's more work on the skate park that's um coming up to some spending resolution
in the coming year. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Dan. Sonia, >> um, the affordable housing committee met on December 4th. uh much of the discussion was on um fourth round and we
are still waiting on a final number. So we didn't have much to talk about on further on that but the main discussion was um on um the new rules that are going to come up um next week. I think
December 15th is um when the new rules for affordable housing is going to be um released cuz the current um rules um expire I believe end of this year. So the new rules have to be effective
December 29th. So we are all waiting on that. some um some of the things um in that is going to be a little more um uh explanation about what dispersed versus indispersed
that language is going to be a little more um well written is what I've been told. So I'm looking forward to that and seeing what that language is. >> So that's supposed to come out next week. >> You're talking about the state rules. >> State rules.
>> Oh, they'll define that. December 15th is the date that that should be coming out. Um, parking authority meets this Wednesday on December 10th. >> And I assume those state rules are going to wind up applying to the round four
>> round four affordable housing, >> right? >> Yeah. Which Yeah. And some of them I think go way beyond that if I remember. >> Yep. Um, happy Hanukkah to everybody who's celebrating this coming weekend and thank you Mr. church for everything
and you all your volunteering. >> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Church. >> Thank you, Mr. Church. >> Thank you, Mr. Church. >> Thank you, >> Martin. >> Uh yes, uh uh human relations met last Tuesday, December 2nd. Obviously,
they're putting together their itinerary agenda and all the activities and planning for MLK day, uh, which will be Monday, January 19th. As we get closer, there will be more details and information. And the planning board will meet next Wednesday right here at 6:30 on December 17th. Thank you.
>> We do. We have timing for the Martin Mel day. >> That That's what they're confirming now. >> Okay. So, we don't have the hours yet. >> Okay. Thank you. Um the EC environmental commission did not meet since the last meeting. We will
be meeting uh December 11th this week. So it's that are there any other administration updates from anywhere? Mayor Mayor, did you have any more? No. Allison,
>> I more than three, four meetings combined. >> You did you you commented on everything. That's >> unless somebody pushes another button. [laughter] >> You want Is that a challenge? >> No, that's it.
>> Good. Um Allison, did you have anything at all? Nope. Okay. Um there's no more administration updates. We have no closed session. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> Thank you. Thank you everybody. We're adjourned at 802.