everyone who's put their name on the list, there'll still be an opportunity for speaking. And we have uh probably two lists over there. One is board of health and one is the regular meeting. So if you want the regular public comment, please make a note of that.
Okay. I'm going to call to order this meeting of the board of health of West Windsor Township for November 10th, 2025. Allison, will you please call the role? >> Gawas >> here. >> Jivers >> here.
>> Here, >> here. >> Whitfield. >> And have we adequately noticed? Yes, we were ad noticed on January 17th, 2025 to the times in the Princeton packet posted in the municipal building and on the township website and filed with the township clerk. Please stand for salute
to the flag. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you. I'm now going to open public comment. Uh for those who are not aware, we have two agendas tonight. The first agenda is just for the board of health. So this would be public comment only for people who have um comment relevant to
the board of health. Um do we have anybody that wishes to make any first public comment for the board of health meeting at this time? If not, then I'm going to go ahead and close the board of health public
comment. And uh we have one action item, the minutes, I believe. >> Yes. >> Present snuck in here. >> Okay. Approval of minutes of board of health, August 11th, 2025. >> Can I have a motion to approve?
>> Salute. Second. >> Darwas, >> yes. Jvers, >> yes. Weiss, >> yes. >> Whitfield, >> yes. >> Mando, >> yes. Thank you. And now we're going to have um any kind of discussion for the board of health. Mayor or Molina, do you
have anything to say at this point? >> I don't. >> No. Mayor, no. Thank you. And now we're going to have Jill from the board of health um give a couple of presentations. Um, and at that point, we're going to
then after the president notications or during, I guess after each presentation, we'll see if anybody on the council has any questions or has any comments to make. >> Thank you. So, Jill, you can take it away. >> Um, good evening. Thank you for giving
us some time. We have um several members of staff here today that are responsible for all the hard work that you see in the quarterly report. I know we just distributed the third quarter and um those reports have a lot of statistics
in it and Ganjuli Jane is with us. She is our public health nurse and she's going to give you a little insight into the outbreak reports and what that involves in our department when you see a one or two under outbreaks, all the um hard work
that's going on behind the scenes. Hello, good evening everyone. Uh, Elisha said my name is Ganchi. Um, >> can you please speak directly into the mic? Can you move it a little closer otherwise it isn't >> can you hear? Okay. Good evening everyone. My name is Ganchi and I'm the
public health nurse for the department and thanks for allowing me to present today. I will be talking about the outbreak response that we do as a local health department. But before I start, I just wanted to uh bring uh um your
attention to the COVID 19 vaccine clinic that we are offering on November 13th between the hours of 10:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. Uh this will be in collaboration with the Bagins Pharmacy and the Mercer County Division of Health. Uh we will be
offering vaccines to everyone eligible six months and up. Um either insured or uninsured will have the opportunity to get the vaccine at this clinic. Um and also just wanted to um uh let you know
that we have successfully completed uh vaccinations that has been offered to the residents of the township and even the employees who work in our town. Um and with the um West Windsor uh uh
budget funding and the state funding, we have uh received some um flu vaccines and COVID vaccines which I am offering to the township residents specifically who are homebound or bedbound and uh cannot go out of their home to get the
vaccine. So, I did send out the flyers at the Facebook and other social medias and the township website and please help promote this. This is a wonderful opportunity for homebound residents to get the vaccine. Um, so now I'm going to talk a little
bit about the outbreak response that we do and trust me this will be the tip tip top tip of the iceberg that I'm going to talk about. Um so um can we next slide please. Um so what is an
outbreak? Uh any increase in the disease above its usual rate um which will have a common source or a cause in a specific population at a defined geographic area and in a
specific time that meets the definition of an outbreak. Um the common sources that are listed there on the screen are the sources that we deal with uh in our health department. It could be food born, waterborn,
vectorborn means anything that is carried by other species and is transferred to humans. Um and then there's blood bond pathogens um that can cause the outbreak. Next slide please. Um the graph that represents here is
basically a history from last five years for the outbreaks that we have uh worked on. Um the downward trends that we of course expect because of what we have experienced uh during the pandemic of
COVID 19. Um so uh in 2021 we dealt with um uh 100% of uh COVID 19 outbreaks. The 31 number represents 100% of the COVID 19. Uh the number 49 in 2022
has 94% of the COVID 19 outbreaks. Uh going down to um uh 20 uh the the 19 outbreaks that are 78% of them of COVID 19 and then 50% of COVID 19 outbreaks in
2024 and 40% in 2025. Uh the other outbreaks investigated during this time period has been the GI outbreaks. The GI means gastrointestinal illness outbreaks, the hen foot mouth disease, the conjunctivitis and other respiratory illnesses like influenza
like illness or flu outbreaks. Um the downward trend of course is expected and it in no means it does not reflect the individual cases that we investigate on a daily basis and those investigation
leads us to limit or prevent such outbreaks from even occurring. So this graph does not report those cases that we work on on a daily basis. Next slide please. Um so now that we know what an outbreak
is um let's talk about how we identify the outbreak. Um there are certain laws established by the state department of health uh that supports compulsory reporting from institutions and the congregate setting over there means like
assisted living where people live in group together. So like assisted living, daycare, schools, colleges, group homes. Uh those uh are required by the law to report any outbreak that happens at their facility. Then there can be individual reporting like a healthcare
provider or a family member of the residents that are staying there can call us and report us uh about the outbreak. uh even while investigating the cases during our surveillance sometimes we find a common linkage between certain cases and that leads us
to identify the outbreak. Um and then lastly there are certain toolkits established by the state health department as well um that um leads us to identify to the outbreak uh when we get those reports from those surveillance tools.
Uh next style next. Thank you. Um that that brings us to once we identify the outbreak it brings us to our phase two which is the outbreak response. Um upon the identification of the outbreak our primary the most important object
that we have is the mitigation to control its spread. Uh and for this there are some key steps that we take. Um these steps are not necessarily particularly in linear uh uh order or uh one after the other. They could be
simultaneously um at the same time. Um we determine who is at the risk. We identify the vulnerable population um to make sure that to keep them safe and um uh provide guidance so that the
uh mitigation can start. Um we determine the causes of the disease too. We det we try to find out what could be the source the transmission uh how it is spreading in that facility. Um and uh this is done mostly by the lab test the interviews
the follow-ups uh with the facility director or the administrative staff. Um and then we have open communication during the process uh with the continued uh we provide to we provide them the
continuous guidance the um the resources and the education uh during this time and the timely guidance is the key during this time because every um uh outbreak has to be um limited uh and every virus or a
bacteria has their lifespan and it has to be controlled. during that time period. Um along this process we also determine the effectiveness of all the control measures we are doing uh to make sure that they are effective and whatever
needs to be um evaluated and u changed during this course of uh process we do that. Um and uh while doing all this we are also collecting the data the information uh we are communicating with the state uh on a daily basis giving
them the data as well which goes to the CDC and the state uh data system. Um and this all helps us to even um u uh help us to for the for our future outbreaks to to learn from those whatever we are
doing. Um during the uh the response we also sometimes communicate with the subject matters expert at the state um in case if they have uh certain inputs for specific disease that we are working sometimes like like like had happened with the covid-19 which was a very novel
for all of us. So we did get the experts during that time. Um and then we also uh conduct some site inspections if needed um to visit the site and make sure that they are doing what is to be done. They're doing due diligence to uh to uh
mitigate the uh spread. Um next slide please. um for the surveillance and investigation we do use some tools and I don't want to go too much in detail of all the tools and the uh the steps for those uh responses but you can see like
there's an excel sheet which is just one example of the line list that we use which involves like signs and symptoms the onset date and all the details that the facility gives us um which actually gives us like a picture for the outbreak that's happening at the facility uh we
do the intake report then there is like the um um um during the the line list there is revisions and there is a long process that involves paper trail behind it. Um like I already mentioned the site
inspection and subject matters um involvement during this process as well. Next slide. Um so when there when there is no new case reported for two incubation period of that disease uh the outbreak is
considered concluded and this is determined in collaboration with the state epidemiologist. Uh outbreak closure report that we submit has to be submitted within 30 days of our um in um when it's concluded. Um and uh once uh that
happens we also uh evaluate the process and we uh gather the the data gathered we we share that with the state. So the epidemiologic curve is created and the um the information is shared with the facility and a survey is done also to
make sure that we all um would change something for future learning from whatever happened during the previous outbreak. Um at and the next slide please. Actually that's the end of my presentation.
Um if anyone has any question or comment I'm >> anybody on the council have any questions about the outbreak? Mayor um I'm curious like let's say you hear that
there's five cases of measles in the town. Okay. Um what I assume there would be some way of informing the public and giving them some direction and can you give a little idea what would h what would happen?
>> So um that is of course an outbreak right there. uh even with one case I don't even go to five cases even if we get one case it it it involves lot of contact tracing and
it involves uh partnership um like you know the the stakeholders other other people like if the person travel like say with plane we are reaching out the state is reaching out to the airport authorities if the person travels with a car the the Uber whatever
have you those uh contacts are identified throughout So the 21 days prior the exposure like from uh the the date the rash began 21 days prior to that the whole 21 day the list is there for each day where the
person went restaurant shopping grocery like whatever have you um the life story of that person for 21 days is collected and then all the individuals that are identified during those 21 days are notified. So there is a sample letter
that we have prepared that go that will go out uh to all those individuals. The state is always involved during this uh whole process. Um and then they also do the broadcast on the state website. There will be some broadcast on the township website as well. Um and we
individually call all the contacts during the process like to to let them know that they have been exposed and then guide them give them the guidelines whatever and then find out if they have been they uh need the quarantine because there are certain criterias they have to
meet to if they need to uh to quarantine if they are fully immunized and they don't need to to quarantine but if not then they will be asked to stay home for 21 days until they get the vaccine the PPEs it's called the prophylactic ex um
uh um treatment or exposure uh uh so based on that if they are 21 days quarantine then they'll stay home uh they're also guided and I can uh tell to everyone say everyone that if if if they get that information that
they're exposed not to go and see er or healthcare providers before they call them to have those places prepare prepare for their visit. So they don't just go and show up and expose more people there. So that is very important
in in the control of the spread. Uh misos is one of the highly contagious disease, the most contagious disease even more than covid or flu. So the the control measures and the um uh steps to
be taken are much more have to be much more aggressive. Um and um I think um >> um so to what level do we um backtrack exposure? To what level do we um track
the exposure? Is it is it the immediate um um people who were exposed or we go beyond that >> and are we talking about measles >> measles or any outbreak >> during covid I remember we used we had like this third tier fourth tier whatever so I don't we have that
>> so every every virus or every bacteria will have their own um way of spreading right so like with measles a person if is infected with measles is in this room walks about 2 hours even after within
those 2 hours this room is still has that virus uh with co there was like 6 ft distance so it depends on what kind of uh exposure it is >> okay >> yes >> and whether the virus lives a certain amount of time in the air and whether
it's food born airborne waterorn or what whatever so each one has its own set of criteria >> correct >> yes >> but but with something like measles without of course giving anybody's name out the public would get notified that measles was
>> correct >> in in the area. >> Yes. >> And to be careful. >> Yes. >> And the sample letter that we have is a general letter. We do not even during co we did not identify any IDs. It is a confidential letter which with no names
on it. It just says like okay you are you have been exposed on this date from this time to this time. That's about it. >> Okay. But everybody who the public that hasn't that you don't may not know has been exposed the general public would find out also correct by putting it
announcing it. >> Yeah the announce with the announcement. Yeah >> with measles there would be a public notification. >> And you work very closely with the school district. >> Yes I do. I work with closely with not
just close not just the school district even the long-term carees I mean the assisted livingings in our area the businesses yes >> okay thank you for your presentation very informative >> any other council anybody questions no okay thank you very much
>> you thank you >> um next would be um did you have anything else you want to go to the draft ordinance >> uh Yes. So, we also have a draft ordinance. Um, and Nikita Branado from the health department is our manager of
environmental health services and she's going to give a brief overview of the proposal and answer some questions. >> Hi, my name is Nikita. I'm from the health department. I just wanted to go over two things before we get started on the proposal as well. Um, the first is
that we just had our rabies clinic in West Windsor. We had roughly about 50 um dogs and cats come through on November 6th. Um and I also wanted to mention that we still have two more opportunities. Um one being December 4th um in Heightstown First Aid Building
from 4:30 to 6:30 and the next being on January 8th um in the coming year at Robinsville Public Works garage. So um West Windsor residents are invited to those two locations as well. So if you missed your opportunity, you have two more shots to come. and registration. We
have um flyers on our website on the township website. Um there's a QR code or clickable link on there. Um and then if you're not sure, you can always give us our office a call and we can help you register on there as um the second is an opportunity next week that we're having.
It's for a consumer products lead testing event. So um when we have children that are found with elevated blood lead levels, um there's multiple reasons. It's not only lead paint. Um, and in West Windsor, in our community,
we see it's usually not lead paint. Our homes are usually renovated, um, upgraded or or newer than when lead paint was around. So, um we have an opportunity for people to bring household items to um our office to get tested with the machine that we we use
um on November 19th from 1 to 3:00 p.m. And those items include things such as bowls, spices, pots, pans, and toys. Um we do have a preferred pre-registration if you can, just so we know how many people are going to be coming through. Um but if
not, that's okay. It's going to be at our office at the health department. Um, and like I said, that's going to be 1 to 3 p.m. If you have any questions on that as well, you can give our office a call. >> Thanks. Do you have any thoughts as to what's what you see most of the time is the issue? Is it like old pots or something or
>> So, we see pots, pans, we see a good amount of spices when it's not household paint. Um, and every now and again you see an item that can be bought in a store in in a store here. Sometimes m I would say majority it's when people
bring stuff from another country, but there are a good amount of stuff that make it through to stores here that people are not aware of that do have it. So, um it doesn't hurt to get it checked out if it's something that if you have young children that they have if they have a lot of mouth behavior um they
could be exposing or if you're cooking with it, it heats up in that >> um vessel. Um but yeah, that that's an opportunity for any resident that wants to come to get their stuff tested if they're not sure. All right. The um draft resolution that we're proposing
um to amend the township code section 82-12 um we had two primary objectives. Um the first was to increase annual fees for public bathing um place licenses for facilities that have more than one body of water. So, um, currently if they're
seasonal pool, they pay a $300 licensing fee. If they are an annual, they pay a $500. Um, that currently covers any amount of bodies of water they have. So, what we're asking is that if they have more than one swimming pool, they have a pool, a spa, a hot tub, um a slide, a
waiting pool, any extra on top of one swimming pool that um there would be an additional fee added on. Um the second would be to establish reinspection fees for those public recreational bathing places and retail food establishments um
who failed to correct um violations if they're in conditional or unsatisfactory standing upon reinspection. Um so just to go into that a bit um you guys have the draft. I also have Alice if you have a flowchart. Um, I kind of created a
little flowchart so it's easy to understand because if you're not an inspector, it kind of gets very confusing on what and when. Um, so for the reinspection fees, we notated, so if this is a recreational bathing facility that an inspector goes
out to, they will receive an initial inspection twice a year. Um, so that and upon that initial inspection, they could pass or fail. So if they pass, there's no further followup. they receive what's called a satisfactory rating, they don't
see us till their second inspection in the year. Um, if they fail, they they are required to get a reinspection and they would be issued a conditional rating, which means that we will be coming back. Um, upon that reinspection, that second visit, when they pass, we
they wouldn't see us again. Once again, satisfactory rating issued. We'll see you later in the year. If they do fail that second time, that's when the reinspection fee would be issued. Um, for recreational bathing facilities, we are proposing the $150
um, reinspection fee. And then just to show how it would progress, I added one more step. So when they would get reinspected again after that, it would be the same cycle again. So if they passed, they would have to pay that incurred $100.50 fee, $150 fee um,
before their next licensing period. If they fail, it tackles on 100 another 150 cuz we have to keep coming back due to violations that affect health and safety. So, it doesn't get to this point unless there is conditions that deem
health and safety concerns um in both categories in recreational bing and in the retail food. So, um, this also helps prevent us to get us to the point that we're having to question if we need to take court action. So, we're we're
hoping that this would help motivate um some some of the the pool companies to or or local pool locations to comply um when when asked upon on that two inspections.
Um, this one. So um the retail food basically mimics the same way though the fees are um a little different for the retail food. So from their initial food foods usually get one inspection a year if they're low risk risk one two we call them. If they're higher risk foods or
full restaurants um large grocery stores etc. Um they get two a year. So initial inspection be conducted. If they fail, they'll be issued what's called a conditional rating and then they would get a second visit. Upon that second
visit, if they still um did not pass, then they would be issued a reinspection fee based on square footage. So, currently in section 8212, the um annual licenses include an inspection fee in there, and that's based on their square footage of their entire facility. So,
um, that based off of what the square footage is of their facility would then kick in another reinspection fee of that manner. So, let me point out which section I'm looking at so I can tell you guys. Um, so if you look at 82-12
C 2 um C2 and then B2, not B2. Yeah 3A. So, those two sections are our um fees
that are are currently already in place. So, um for 3A, if let's say a a retail food place that's up to a,000 square foot failed that second reinspection, they would be issued $135 fee. Um and
then they would be getting another reinspection to hopefully pass on the next one. And that same thing like the recreational bathing prior to the next licensing period, we would want that fee to be paid. Okay. Um did I
think that's everything for the um for the recreational bathing. I think the only thing else we added was a late fee for licensing. Um, so just like we do for rec for retail food, if they don't license within I think 60 days
that we give out the application. So if they don't license by January 31st um for the new year, a $100 late fee kicks in for retail food licensing. For recreational bathing, we license um middle of the year. So if they don't renew their license by May 1st, um the
$100 fee would kick in for the recreational bathing. Yeah. Yeah. We give a 30-day grace period for both. Um for the pools, they tend to open close to Memorial Day, so we want
to get those licenses in before so we can do those inspections on time and um get everyone in before the Memorial Day weekend. If anyone has question, >> that's for the outdoor pools. What about the indoor? >> So indoor licenses for April 1st. Um,
and then outdoor day license, Memorial Day, weekends, what whatever day that falls on. So, um, it would be the 30-day grace period for both. >> Um, a little confused. Um, way I read this is that on the first reinspection
there was a charge. So, so after the first reinspection, so they would have an initial >> it fails. If the first >> if the first two fail, >> first reinsspection fails, there's a charge. >> So, they get one free reinspection. >> Yes, >> one free. Yeah, one free inspection. If
it fails, then there's a charge because there will be another inspection. >> Okay. Cuz like here it says a reinspection fee shall be assessed to a retail food establishment at the time of reinspection. Okay. when the reinspection results in the issuance. So it's
>> only that second reinspection. Okay. >> No, you see it's next to fail. >> It's next to fail, not if it's passed. >> No, I mean when I read this before to look >> Okay. All right. So basically, we're
saying you can't keep having us come and inspect for free. And we're also um not we're not charging somebody with 20 different pools and spas the same as somebody that's got one pool.
Um we're making it based on you on more of a use fee as far as inspections and also on um as far as the size and how how many different um items we have to inspect. >> Correct.
So tip, so what we're basing it on, each um pool within the the facility that has a separate filtration system is considered a separate pool. And so each of those facilities requires additional
work as far as inspections. So that's um what that additional fee is based on. >> So So it's mainly WAC and HOAs, right? There's no other facility. There's >> So there's hotels, um, homeowners
associations. Yeah. Yep. >> Well, there's >> the colleges >> in that home depot complex. There's a indoor pool facility, too, right? >> Yeah. The gold >> the gold fish. >> A swimming facility um to teach children
how to swim, >> right? So, we're trying to cover our costs >> basically. Yes. The inspector's time. Yep. >> Right. say go out that covers the first one then we reinspect should that be necessary but the third time >> then we're going to start to charge >> correct that's a lot of extra time from
the inspectors and running out >> correct and with the pools there's also an additional charge we're proposing an additional charge for lensure so for your initial licensing of the year so each of those facilities each of those
pools within a facility would there would be an additional charge in addition to the charge for duplicate reinspections. >> So this this isn't a profitm thing from the township they cover our costs.
>> Exactly. Yes. >> Okay. Oh, one other thing. Um the last on the very last page under F says reserved and then there's um strike and it's underlined which usually means that's something new. Uh, and then there's strikeouts there and there's no
new wording there. So, I wasn't um sure about that. >> It like the entire section F is being removed. >> It's >> right. File search. We were removing previous prior to Oprah and I forget
when that went into effect, but we had a clause where we could charge a file search fee for pulling files for organizations. Um, we obviously haven't been charging that fee since OPER's been enacted. So,
this is removing that whole section for file search and adding the word reserved under F. >> Reserve meaning what? >> I'm sorry. >> When you say reserved, >> what like how we
>> Well, I guess what does it mean? I get to say that word. It's a placeholder. It's a It's a placeholder. >> It's a placeholder. Um, oftentimes uh I think in some of the ordinances that have come to council and I want to say
the uh tree ordinance believe there was one or two sections set aside reserved. So if there's a need to elaborate in the future, there's a a mechanism to amend the ordinance and add further language
to clarify. >> We need at the end what it means. >> Um >> or it's something of a discretionary nature or something like like it just to have that word. I don't know what that >> So we can just
take it out. >> Yeah, we'll take it out. Yeah. Yeah. >> Maybe in the future, but here at the end the whole thing to avoid. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I would just stick it out. >> Yeah. And this was a draft for
discussion. So, >> we're not voting on anything tonight. Just just so everybody knows, we're just having a discussion with clarifying some of the questions we've had because we received this ahead of time. We had some questions. We're doing that now. We're making suggestions and that way
hopefully when we introduce this, it will be clean and we'll be happy with it. Is anyone on council have any questions? >> Quick question. Is there um are the initial inspections announced or scheduled? They're unannounced. No, they're they're always unannounced. Um
when the only time they're announced or if it's a new restaurant that needs a final inspection to open um or if there's a change of ownership, we do a scheduled inspection with the new owner to go over any past issues and kind of get them up to speed. >> And I imagine the reinspections are
scheduled. >> No, they are announced. We we do give them rough timelines of I'll be back in two weeks. I'll be back in a week. Um but they're not as per the code they're not supposed to be announced, >> right? >> But the reinspections have to happen in a certain time period. >> Yeah. Anyway, it's not written out ex an
exact day amount. Um but we typically do them within the same time periods. >> Fair. >> Yeah. And then same thing for pre-operationals. For pools, they're um typically scheduled because for seasonals, they're not open yet. So the pool we open them with the pool companies. Um, but then those
reinspections once they're open and running are typically unannounced. >> And the drafts are considered working documents. Are they public documents at this point or is it not until the introduction when the document becomes a >> So they were posted on the township
website. So they're out there. >> Okay. I just want to double check on that. Right. >> Do we have a timeline on when we will introduce this or target? soon as ready. >> We were hoping to intro go into the new year with um the ordinances in place.
So, um our hope was to introduce at the next meeting, but >> you have to introduce >> so everyone knows um you can't introduce one year and you can and then vote on it the following year. So, we have to introduce it where we have at least two
weeks between meetings. So the next meeting and I'm not absolutely sure do we have exact number of days if it was the meeting after >> um yeah I mean I think we can because we have two weeks apart so yeah which is unusual sometimes we only have one week so
>> we could but if we could do it uh this next meeting in case there are any changes or any questions then that would be the best way to do it. >> Yeah. >> Very good. Thank you. >> Okay. Andy I have a question. Uh so have we done this late testing before or this
first time we had to >> So we've done it um two times earlier this year but it was in a more of a school setting um and uh we have we had some feedback from a resident who was interested in testing some items so we thought why not make it >> maybe my concern is you are saying one
to three each house will have >> so it's it's discretionary that that was just in case we had a line out the door um so if we don't if people can bring more and if we have the time we will test. >> Yeah, because I mean house will have 30 spices and 20 pots. >> Just going to give everyone an opportunity that just in case we would
want to give everyone opportunity that comes to get something tested. >> Okay. >> And and for your household items, >> every Indian household will have 30 spices. >> Okay. >> And just one more thing, um the equipment that we use to do the testing, it's a very expensive piece of
equipment. So we don't have a large lead burden in West Windsor. So, we have not purchased that um piece of equipment. We do borrow it from another local health department. Um that's why we are offering it periodically through the year and not ongoing.
>> Um where where is this actually being held? >> At our office. At the health department. >> At the health department office. So, you just bring something in and I assume this is a non-destructive test or >> Okay. Yes. No. I mean, >> so you can bring your your favorite porcelain
dish and you're not going to take a piece of it. Okay? >> If they find lead, they keep it >> and give it back. Um, we don't do inspection for home pools >> for >> home homeowners owned pools. >> No, no, no. Just for any pool open to
public setting. >> Okay, great. Any other questions? Council administration, nobody. Okay. uh on anything for the health department at this point? >> No. Well, thank you very much, Jill. Did
you have anything to ask of us? I think >> Thank you very much. >> Thank Thank you. Thanks, Joe. Thank you, ladies. >> Thanks. >> Okay, at this time, we're going to have no closed session needed for the board of health and I'm going to open up the
second public comment. Again, this is on just board of health issues. Does anybody have any public comment for board of health issues? You do. Yes. Thank you. And if you can please, you have three minute limit. And if you can please state your name and address.
>> Hey, um Sammy Burgerer, 18 Park Hill Terrace. Um I wasn't planning on having a comment, but um it was just something that came to mind. Uh it feels like there should be some sort of minimum time length before reinspection. I mean, it it feels like a thing you could say, "Oh, I will reinspect you every single
day and charge you a fee every single time, which isn't a problem if you're not charging a fee." But once you start charging a fee, it feels like you're should have like some statute of limitations. I I just I don't need the time. I just felt like saying that. >> No, I mean, thank you. >> Generally, they will give you a
reasonable time. I mean, if they ask you to do something with the oven, they are not going to come next day. >> Yeah. I I totally understand like with all reasonable human beings involved that totally makes sense. Just you know if we're writing into law that there can be you know charging for things for no I
mean that I didn't want to say that but I'm certain people will complain to me that they're failing me because they want the fee. I mean I can see that uh happening. So I didn't say that but uh but they don't do that. I mean $150
doesn't move a needle on the budget. So thanks. >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Um at this point, if no one else wishes to speak at the board of health, I'm going to >> Sure.
>> Uh name and name and uh >> 5,000 CS because checking that the inspections were only for commercial purposes. I just wanted to check that the licenses are also only for commercial purposes
>> for the pools. >> Yeah. Yes. >> Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah. Thank you. >> So, your backyard is safe. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. Anybody else wish to make a comment for the board of health?
Nope. All right. Thank you. I will close the board of health comment. Thank you Jill. Thank you ladies. And at this point I'll ask for a motion to adjourn the board of health meeting. >> So moved. Second. >> Do I want to do roll call or just a just
regular? All in favor? >> I. Thank you. All right. Moving right along. Okay. I'm going to call to order the regular business meeting for West Windsor Township Township Council of November
10th. Uh Allison, can you call the role again? >> Garwas >> here. >> Jivers here. >> Mandel >> here. >> Weiss >> here. >> Whitfield >> here. >> And um we were adequately noticed. Yes, we were adequately noticed on January 17th, 2025 to the times in the Princeton
packet filed with the municipal clerk uh posted in the township website and at the township municipal building. Thank you. We have already done the salute to the flag. Um so now we're going to go into ceremonial matters and topics for priority consideration
and today we have an update from the Stonybrook Regional Sewage Authority. Um about a month or two ago, we got a um email from the sewage authority alerting us to um what's called PAS, Forever Chemicals,
uh new DP regulations that may be coming down for uh sewage treatment and some various lawsuits that are going on with various contributors to this pollution. And that raised some council concerns
and so I requested um Arun Bos Bosley who is our representative, the West Windsor representative on the uh Stony Brook Regional Sewage Authority uh to come up with a little um presentation giving us a little bit
background of what the sewage authority is and what possible ramifications this uh new D regulation uh might have particularly as far as the costs and uh availability and I believe you've also brought Miss
uh Dr. Gail Downey the chair to help you with the presentation and uh Arun is a professional engineer and uh has been on the um commission for probably like a couple of years now. So thank you. Take it away.
Evening just full disclosure I'm a professional engineer but in this case I'm not representing as a professional engineer this is just as a um resident of Westminster Township so my lensure should be kept under please
uh so lot of people have asked about Stony Brook can you speak directly lot of people have asked about Stony Brook regional search authority what we do so I am the west princ rep representative for the Stony Brook Regional Health Authority. Uh, next slide, please.
Okay, a brief. >> Can you um if you don't speak right in, it won't it won't record. So, uh, if you want, you can sit and talk. >> Yeah. >> Can everyone hear me? >> Yes.
>> Okay. So, brief history about uh Stony Brook Regional Sewage Authority. So in 1968 our regional storage authority um was initiated under the the physibility study was initiated with the consolidated municipal service act. Uh
the participating municipalities are um listed above. Um then in 1971 uh we the stony brook regional sewage authority was established in 1976 to 1984. Uh total three west uh wastewater
treatment plants were constructed. So the first one which we call as the river road especially during our meetings we call it as a downstream plant that was constructed in 1976 to 1978 and it serves Princeton Wester and South
Brunswick. Pennington and Hopewell plants also known as upstream plants were constructed later and they serve Pennington Perau and the Hopewell. uh long-term performance is like we we have been operating since 30 plus years and
uh we have been providing a reliable and cost-effective wastewater treatment plant um consistently meeting um or exceeding the discharge permit standards and if um any of your kids ask what do we do when we flush or when we wash
dishes then all that water comes to river water river treatment plant. Next slide please. So uh again as I discussed uh we were established in 1971 and we provide wastewater treatment
services to uh the six municipalities u west the river road is again Princeton South Brunswick West Windser Pennington and Hope Bell and what I do I I I sit at the board representing the West Windser
um township and we participate in the board governance and the committee oversight also represent Westminster's interest in system planning and budgeting and our meeting is held each month at the river road wastewater
treatment plant facility in Princeton. If you need additional information you can always visit us at sbrsa.org. Next slide please. So this is uh our treasure I always call
and today I am um um um Miss uh Dr. Gail Downey. She is the chairman of the SBRSA and she has joining me today with uh for this presentation. Um I would say thank you for her 33 and a half years of
service with the SBS board. um she has u I'm learning a lot through her and also the rest of the uh members of the SBRSA board. So we are appointed for a five-year term and serve without compensation.
Next slide please. So one of the questions people ask and actually um it was it came through our town council member that what happens when uh where are we like what happens because of the new development which we
are seeing right now what if we reach capacity we where are what are what are our you know guidelines for that so here is a brief answer um the available capacity the way it is calculated as it's on the next slide as well. But just
wanted to give you an heads up. It's a permit flow minus the 12-month average flow and minus the inoperative flow. That inoperative flow is basically calculated based on the approved future development which has been approved by
the township from the neighboring towns as well. So for River Road which services the three townships Princeton, West Windsor and South Prince Brunswick the latest data is that we are at a 29% available capacity.
So basically in back in December 2023 that the capacity was at 15% and the reason for that was for the rainfall um you know the rain intake. So October 2025 we are at 29% and again the reason
is we had a very low rainfall recorded last October. Next slide please. >> Um Arun just for what um whenever there is a new development our engineering department figures out how much sewage they're going to need and then they come
to the council and the council reserves sewer capacity. So, if somebody's going to need 100,000 gallons of sewer a year, um we we come we vote on it. We say we tell them, "Please reserve us that sewer capacity." And that's the numbers uh
that you see here for reserve sewer capacity. >> And uh this is the data again. It shows the river road capacity at 29% uh and changed. Then Hopewell is at 34 and Pennington is at 41%.
Next slide please. So what is the trigger? When can we know that we need expansion? So the brief expansion is that if we reach the 5% capacity available capacity that is the
trigger for us to think about expansion. Currently we are several years away from from full capacity and uh uh the interim capacity target which we are looking at an expansion planning has been already
initiated is at 6 MGD and then the final is at 19 MGD. uh internally the rerating uh option has been considered and we are trying to rerate our facility at 14 MGD uh without
adding additional capital cost. So basically it gives additional time for us for the expansion. Um next slide please. Oh, I forgot to say that it uh roughly takes about three years to complete in
any event uh there is a trigger for us to you know increase our capacity from design to uh construction. So another question that came to me was about what is the recommendation for our west township and uh based on like the
most important thing is the inflow and infiltration assessment and the reduction of it. So with west wind serve uh based on the data which I have been seeing we are among the best uh serving for like with the SBRSA municipality.
Um so we are doing good. uh however there are additional opportunities which we can u assess and uh the benefits of reducing that inflow and in I we call it INI is basically you can see up here on
the slide is that it's bas it reduces the wastewater flow that means that our treatment burden which we do at our facility is also reduced that impacts the operational and the capital cost so an example here shared through David
Smith. He is our um lead with the SBSA 15,000 GPD reduction means 62,000 per year reduction in our SBSA based charge. So what we are SBRS is doing is next steps is we they are trying to host a
January meeting with our sore engineers and the superintendent and try to come up with a shared INI strategy and see what we can do to improvise our system. >> So is this when you say we're doing a
good job are we pre-treating in some way filtering before you get it? What what are we actually doing here? >> Good job. In a sense, basically we are not having like lots of spills or like
Yeah. Uh you want to >> when we say you're doing a good job, that means the difference between a drought here and a very wet rain here, your difference is relatively small in the flows from the dry to the wet. By
contrast, the township I was representing in a very small system would have something on the order of 150% increase in flow between a drought year and wet year. And we just spent a
uh $1.2 million for a two 218 home collection system to reduce that down to a point where we have very little infiltration. So reducing the infiltration reduce your costs and it also will delay when we need to expand
cattle to expand. Princeton Council and their the work they did prior to this over a number of years took one about a million gallons ination out and they are just now starting a newation program
section street and 27. >> So the only way I can see that happening is if there's holes in the pipes that are bring taking water in pretty much. So, anything that stops it from being a closed system is going to allow
infiltration from some source. Okay. And like when we had a we had a um sewer pipe, a mainline sewer pipe that was bringing in some water at some point that we had to get fixed. At that point, we were probably paying to get clean
water uh go through this go through your sewage system. So uh basic basically some form of leakage into the system is the problem. Okay. Thank you. >> Question.
>> Thank thank you again. >> Okay. So next step slide please. Okay. So there is a lot of uh I don't know if everyone knows about it or not but uh about PAS contamination. Uh in
simple terms what is PAS? So PAS is basically per and poly fluoroalkky substances. What is pas? Where did we get that? It is basically a humanmade substance. There are there exist roughly
like around 15,000 plus humanmade substances which is basically the per and poly fluoroalkky. These are all contaminants. a common example and again Andrea did ask me who who gets this who
manufactures it other than the industrial the household items which you can see Pas uh in is basically in water and stain resistant materials that includes cosmetics uh anything stain resistant you are
doing the uh the fire you know the firefighter the uh the phones Uh then um anything regarding like uh stain resistant clothing I mentioned paint. So these are all the household items
pesticides whatever you use even your makeup uh comes through that from u household items right and regarding uh so there has been u 3M so 3M is the manufacturer
of PAS materials and for it's forever chemicals we call uh there uh there has was a a settlement done through the state and we as an authority SBRSA and other authorities have also joined us.
Uh we we are uh we are pointing out things which we don't agree with the settlement. It is a huge settlement done with the uh state about roughly like $450 million. So here is a brief description about the PAS contamination
and the letter which the township was also sent through our SBSA board. So Dupont and these other companies uh have been manufacturing and using this beef uh and major contamination site locations are chambers work uh also
known as Pensville or Carnese Point and the Parland facility. This was occurred the majority of the PA first contamination was occurred due to the industrial discharges and um also the consumer products which I had already mentioned and then the firefighting
foam. Next slide please. So D had enforced back in 2019. There was lawsuits filed against this 3M due point and related parties to uh seek remediation and compensation for the chambers work and the parling sites. uh
there was a statewide directive requiring these companies to investigate and address the PAS contamination and there were additional uh lawsuits against this uh you know the firefighting AFF manufacturers and the component suppliers.
Next slide please. So in lie of that uh PM came up with a settlement uh to the state saying that we will offer you $450 million in order to compensate for the natural resources
then also support the PAS cleanup which we have costs until now and then also reimburse the D and state agencies for all this additional investigation and the litigation cost also address the
consumer part of it and uh cover all the penalties and the punitive damages. Um the public notice was scheduled in um July 2025. Next slide please. So the state here they are saying that
oh good we are we are going to accept pretty much your um offer and uh they are stating that the PAS contamination damaged the water supplies harm natural resources and has also posed a public
health risk. So the settlement also represents based on the state position a major step in holding polluttors accountable and funding cleanup. So the funds will also support for the PAS abetment and remediation projects
and also improve the drinking water quality particularly in Salen County and statewide. So this is the state's stand with regards to the settlement. Next slide please. So uh the next the following slides are
basically I'm taking those slides from our attorney who represents us at the SBSA. Her name is Diane Alexander and she works with Marazitive Falcon LLP. She's the attorney at law. uh I'm using
her slides and but I have accepted uh you know taken out some information and um tried to do a bullet point uh but the reference is with ref regards to her site and uh slides and what we are going to go forward with with regards to this
lawsuit. Next slide please. So here is the uh here are the key terms of the proposed settlement which again I'm reiterating. So 3M is released if we accept the settlement. 3M is released
from the state liability basically from anything related to sales, marketing, distribution, use and manufacturer of P PA pas in New Jersey and then of course they are also going to continue with the remediation and cleanup of the sites and
the currently whatever are affected due to the PAS contamination. Uh next slide please. So covenant not to sue. So why this matters for us as municipalities and
rate payers that the settlement um is very broadly written and then what it is doing it it is preventing all our public uh utilities for seeking any re reimbursement for the PAS treatment
cost. So we as a utility we did we are not the polluters. We did not um include the pas into our system. This was basically an industrial waste which comes through uh through the manufacturers and then we as a
municipalities we have to the utility company have to treat and make sure that the water is in a to the current standards to discharge to the rivers. So basically we are against this settlement is
because then we have to clean up the cost and which will also add additional the financial burden to the if we cannot cover the cleanup cost because you know there is a huge contaminants being come uh um dropped into this wastewater
treatment plants and then the cost rises based on how much contaminants we have to clean and that is basically if we we as and SBSA or other authorities we cannot cover that then the whole financial burden will now shift to our
towns and the rate payers. So this is why we are um trying to come up with this uh settlement options and yes >> in addition they have settled with other states and not put in the covenant not to stew. So the settlement that the
state of New Jersey has proposed is unique relative to how 3M and uh DuPont are settling with other states. So that that is a concern is that for some reason they're forgetting about us and it's going to cost the sewer authorities
millions of dollars which will then be paid by your rate users. >> That constitutional? >> Don't ask me. So, um, at this point, if I remember correctly, DP is setting some standards
for what you're allowed for your effluent. And if they set the standard at a certain, depending on what they set the standards at, you might have to do extraordinary investment in in capital to make that happen. Is that is that
where we're going? And just for the audience here, since we have got some people, if you have sewers, uh you pay a sewer tax based on uh it's really based on your water usage, but the assumption is that you're using more so sewer.
And um that means that eventually you're going to wind up having to to pay for for whatever this is because they're they're not set to take a loss. They're we we basically um have to pay them by the gallon for
for the sewage. Okay. Um >> difficult here is that they're setting a standard but they haven't set what is going to be required for treatment. So right now you have water companies using
carbon to remove the POS. Um but then what happens to the carbon with POAS and one of the proposals for the water company is that they send it back out to the rivers and to your W and it eventually comes back in again and then we will have to invest in carbon to
treat the water etc. There isn't what I call a cradle to grave solution for POS yet. So the only thing that's out there is to put it on carbon. You don't want to go and send the carbon with the POS on it to a very high temperature incinerator because you're sending all
kinds of CO2 out and you're aggravating our climate problem. So it this is this is an area where research is needed for what I call our real ways to destroy the PAS that are not just move it from one medium to another. One of the biggest
sources of uh POS is actually landfills. The leech from the landfill contains an enormous amount of POS, one of the largest sources and that's getting put into your rivers. Again, this is a very complex problem where they set a standard but they have haven't set the
regulations. They don't have really a recommended treatment area and it's, you know, the potential costs are phenomenal depending on what they require us to do with it. And this could go beyond the sewage treatment because our MS4 permits
are now predicated on us improving the water quality in the wershed and we're going to each town is going to have to pay money to go figure out how to improve that water quality and that's a separate it's going to be a separate uh
capital and ongoing expense. So, >> no question. Okay. And do you have any more or should we open to questions here from the council? >> I think that I'll just go quickly about that. So,
next slide, please. So, this is what we were talking about the anticipate new fea standards. This is for freshwater. I'm not going to go over it. Next slide, please. And this is for the salin water. Next
slide, please. So basically the if we com the anticipated cost of compliance if uh for this could run into tens and hundreds of millions of dollars with additional you know terms for like land and uh disposal cost. Next slide please.
Again this is also the release of liability and key request. This is what we are trying to uh tell uh tell them tell them that you know that ensure treatment authorities retain the legal ability to assert claims against any responsible parties for PAS
contamination now and in the future and then other things with the governor not to sue and next slide please. And this is just the scheduling order. If anyone is interested, you guys can look up. Uh and I think the court will be there
January 7, 2026 at 9:00 a.m. um the hearing is scheduled. Next slide, please. Okay, that's it. So, thank you very much and with Gail Towny and um uh Baby Smith, Dian Alexander and the rest of our team, thank you for hearing us
and thank you for your time. >> Thank you very much. Um, we'll open it up. Uh, do you plan a leg I assume you've got a lawyer here. So, you are you're planning a um legal brief opposing this is at this point
>> have already filed um a letter with this D objecting to the settlement. There are other sewage authorities that have also filed letters with the D objecting to the settlement. The board has authorized Diane if it seems appropriate with the
AEA to file possibly file a suit and this but we again she is working with a number of other lawyers for other sewer authorities and we're trying to put together a common strategy because this is a very big issue for us.
>> So idea what we are we talking about 10% increase on our sewer bills 20 40 I mean very some we're talking somewhere on the order of an additional 50 to 100 million
capital costs and more a million or more in treatment cost. So it's this is a very big cost item for us if we end up having extreme methods to treat us. And you have to realize that there there is
only one compound in nature that has three florine atoms on it and that's the florine equivalent of acetic acid. So anytime you find a carbon bound to a florine atom in nature, it came from one of these POS compounds and there they're
actually 24 million of them. Uh it's a phenomenal number and society has just barely started to scratch the surface of what's important and what's not important in this area. So it's going to be a big cost down the road. >> Yeah. Can I go down to Mayor? Do you
have any thing to say? >> Yeah. I just have a question just out. Is the suit in the federal court or the state court? Um >> because >> I don't think it's the same court because it's a state settlement.
>> Okay. Because it's US state US court. So yeah. No, I mean I I just want to thank Arun and Mr. Honey for coming and making a great presentation. I mean she's only the third person to serve in this capacity in the history of Westminster. Uh serving on sewer capacity is not
sewer uh is not a heavy a very sought out job. very sought out job. So I really appreciate she doing and with engineering background she's perfect. I just want to clarify something about the sewer bill. Andrea did say that uh we
don't we don't measure how much sewer you produce for every house. So your sewer bill is based on your water usage during the winter months. So four four month winter months. So if you use water for uh your lawn or you use water for
your swimming pool, you don't get charged for sewer bill. So your sewer bill is based on the water usage during winter month. Now there's a quirk in that and couple of people have been uh bitten by that. We do have a minimum sewer bill and that minimum sewer bill
is higher than if you used a little water in winter. So if you're going away for 3 4 5 months, ask your neighbor to run your tap for few few minutes because otherwise you will pay more sewer for using zero sewer. I mean it's a it's a
weird thing and will take me 10 minutes to explain. So if you ever go away in winter for four or five months, ask your neighbor to run your tab for 10 minutes every week. >> Okay. So that's okay. That's not >> some other time. It's there are people
waiting here to make public comment. So I really feel that is there anybody that up but this is the only opportunity. >> Okay. Is there any other questions for um the solar authority at this point? >> Can curious from a procedural perspective is there value for council
>> to pass a resolution in support of your letter to the NJ? >> Yes, we would. We purposely put all the mayors on our list, all the legislators, etc. And we would appreciate any support
for the what we have filed with the uh EPA. And I can get you a copy of the letter I sent if you'd want. >> Um I believe you did send all of us that letter. Um so the question is, do you have some form of a template >> for what you're what you're looking for?
I can get you one >> because if we are we're doing a resolution, we we need that kind of layout for the facts and stuff and then we can massage it. >> Yeah. So, if you can get that that would make it uh a lot easier than just a letter type of thing.
>> I'll get a template for you. >> Thank you. >> We should appreciate that. >> I was going to get done so before end of a year. >> Yeah. Well, and it's a resolution so it you know it doesn't have the uh what was the date you said that they were doing this next review? >> J. It was a December date.
>> No, we want to move on this quickly. >> Yeah. So, just um get it to us within the if you have it within if you have one and can get it within the next few days, we can try to take a look at it and get it on the next agenda. >> 12th is the date, right? >> Yeah. Well, >> so if we get we have another meeting uh
before Thanksgiving, >> we will get it to you this week. >> Okay. That would be great. And who should I send copies? you the mayor. >> Dallas and she'll get it to us. >> All right. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Yes.
>> Okay. Um that was that was interesting and a little bit concerning. Um next will be public comment. So the same rules applied as for board
of health 3minut limit please give us your name and address uh 30 minute limit for the group of it. Um Allison has a list of people who have asked to speak first. So that's we'll we'll go by that list and then we'll open it up to everybody else.
>> Okay. First on the list is Mr. John Church. >> Good evening John Church 11 Princeton Place. Uh good evening to council members and administration and uh glad to see you at this time. I'm glad everyone I think everyone's glad that
the election is over with all the attention and so forth. Uh I won't name any names, but I think we all know who the apparent winners are, but it hasn't been certified yet and there still provisional ballots and few mailins to be count. But anyway, congratulations and best wishes to everyone who
participated in the election. I know it's a real strain for those for the candidates and even for the public at times the discussion. So all the best wishes for uh the uh for the future for the uh the winners and uh and those who
did not win but may run again someday. Uh in the spirit of nonpartisanship I want to congratulate everyone who takes part in these elections. Um, I I would like to s suggest uh that anyone who wants to run for mayor in the future should uh probably run for council
first. That's the way you really learn how the system works. So, two years from now, there'll be another council election. So, those people who aspire to be a mayor, I think, would do well to run for council and see if they can get elected. Then they would know how the system works.
Uh now I want to uh address uh the thing that really was the big issue in the election and that is the uh warehouses on Clarksville Road. In my opinion, these warehouses are actually never going to happen for many reasons. Um we can talk about some of these. Uh first
of all, it's a bad location for warehouses. Uh the the warehouses have been being constructed in East Windsor. They were constructed in Cranberry. This is not a good location. So, I'm I'm anticipating that at some point Bridgepoint will uh actually withdraw their application. Uh uh for example, uh
they would have to get through the Mercer County Planning Board, which is a tough hurdle to to overcome. And you know that that the Mercer County Board will certainly talk about uh uh the effects on Clarksville Road and Werridge Road. Uh there's also the uh the
Bridgepoint flood hazard uh area permit was revoked uh last December and that that's another hurdle that the applicant would have to overcome. Uh there's no connection approved by DOT for route one access. So they would have to have that and uh also there's the Delaware and
Ritan Canal Commission who would have to approve it and they might be worried about overflow in the duck pond run which gets into the canal which is our source of drinking water and there's our own planning board and all the conditions that they impose. So in in uh in summary I don't think this thing is
ever going to happen on Clawill Road. There are many other uses that are possible there. Some of those should still be investigated and some of them may come to pass, others may not. But uh whatever is going to happen will happen and we'll see what happens in the future. In the meantime, thank you very
much for your attention this evening. >> Thank you, John. Who's next? >> Okay, Elizabeth Warner. >> Hi, my name is Allison Simmy. It's a It's We're together. We came. It's the same project. I live at Apollo Road. Uh
I just first want to ask for forgiveness for reading from my phone. It's just the sign of the times. Um and I don't want to forget what I wanted to say cuz it's important to me. Um so I I came with my sister-in-law, Elizabeth Wagner, and her family. Uh we first want to thank you for your support
for our families in the district. And second, want to ask for your help in amplifying our efforts uh to make sure they have the food they need to thrive. We're partnering with Send Hunter Packing, Send Hunger Packing, a program at Mercer Street Friends to provide families in need with extra access to
food during the long school breaks that are coming up in November and December. You might know uh in our district 2% of families are eligible for SNAP benefits. 4.5% of WWP students are eligible for free and reduced price lunch. We have
just over 9,000 total students. So that means a little more than 400 kids are eligible for free and reduced price lunch. We've seen a lot in the news lately all the way up to today about the government shutdown. Uh and that's been a big driver for our fundraising efforts. Besides the students who were
already eligible for free and reduced price lunch at the beginning of the school year, now we know some families have been affected by the shutdown and lost income even while the parents are still required to work. I see a lot of nodding heads. So, I just want to take a step back from the news cycle for a
second and just think about what that's like for these families who are our neighbors. Families of four that are eligible for freedom reduced price lunch are earning 72 $72,000 or less uh in annual house come household income. Uh could be a lot
less. Meanwhile, we probably can all agree trips to the grocery store just keep getting more expensive, which leaves these families with household incomes half of the median in West Windsor regularly making impossible
choices. We know that families who aren't sure they will have access to all their meals every day are among our neighbors here. So, if you do the math, Elizabeth did the math. Thanks, Elizabeth. The data works out to an average of one student per Westminster Plainsboro classroom
who's eligible for free and reduced price lunch and whose family is making those impossible choices trying to put trying to put food on the table. So, if you have kids that have ever been in the school system, that means at the rates we're talking about with this math, um,
your child has had at least one friend who was food insecure every year. Elizabeth and I are both WWP graduates. So, I imagine I I knew some of those kids, too. And now we're raising kids of our own in West Windsor. Between our families, we have kids from preschool to
8th grade. And now, as parents, we can't stand by while the other food insecure families that we probably know and whose kids are friends with our kids don't have reliable access to food. For the 400 kids, our goal is $100 per kid in the form of a grocery store gift card
distributed with the help of send hunger send hunger packing. Thanks for listening. >> Thank you. Uh for those who thank Thank you. For those who aren't uh familiar, um we are going to we let everybody come up and do their public comment and then
if there's any response from the mayor, anybody up here, we'll we do that at the end so that everybody gets a fair shot. Uh, who's next on the um list? Did Elizabeth want to come up? >> Thank you. I'm Elizabeth Wagner, 34 Nassau Place. I want to tell you about
Send Hunger Packing. With Melissa Hager's very local leadership, it's been a huge help to our local lowincome families. For Wester Plains kids in grades K through six, send Hunger Packing provides a discrete package of food slipped into their backpacks on Friday that gives them breakfast and
lunch for Saturday and Sunday. Unfortunately, kids past sixth grade don't get this benefit. Uh my 14-year-old, one of the two incredibly well- behaved and quiet kids in this room, eats like a herd of horses. I can't imagine how low-income families with teenagers are facing this today.
Our neighbors are always surprised that Westwinds Plainsboro students um count so many who are food insecure. With this effort, we hope to raise enough to give every single one of those students, including the older ones, a $100 grocery store gift card so their families can buy food over the very long holiday
breaks that we have in November and December. We also hope to educate our community about the scope of the need right here among our neighbors. Originally, we were moved by the government shutdown, but as we've heard more stories from our community, we've realized that our lowincome neighbors
needed this help even before the shutdown. Food is so much more expensive than it was a half decade ago. And parents depend on school breakfast and lunches, plus programs like scent hunger packing to provide essential nutrition so their kids can learn and grow. We pride ourselves on being a great town
for families. That's why Allison and I both came back to raise our families here. We started this effort to provide a dignified way for hardworking lowincome parents to feed their kids, letting them make their own choices about the foods that best suit their family's dietary requirements and
cultural traditions. In my work life, I lead the foundation endowment and charitable practice of a wealth management firm. So, I have hundreds of nonprofit clients. I am watching them in real time scramble to meet everinccreasing need for food right now. As a parent, I'm really grateful for the
resources that we have in this community. You probably saw what the district sent out recently um with food resources for families, but it's not enough. We felt we had to do something. So, with thanks to Send Hunger Packing and Melissa Hager for their partnership,
we're trying to raise $40,000 this season so low-income families in our school district will have an extra $100 to spend on those long days at home when they're not in school. Please join us. Mr. Mayor, council members, we're asking you to please amplify this project when
you talk to local residents and when you're active on social media. Thanks so much to those of you who have helped us share this message thus far, especially Councilman Dan Weiss. There are 200 there 20,000 households in Westminster alone. That's $2 a household. Donations
should be made to send hunger packing. It's imperative that they say wwpshuff/ittlefree pantry in the memo line or comment field. Send Hunger Packing will leverage Mercer Street Friends purchasing power to buy the gift cards. Then they will purchase and distribute them working
with the school district. Thank you for your support for our kids. >> Thank you, Alison. Who's next? >> Lyn Jin Ling. >> Hi guys. Uh my name is Kamal Dugar and I'm a small business owner here in uh
Clarksville Plaza Global Grill in Hal. My name is Kamal. So my colleagues, my fellows who are with me, they asked me to talk. >> Can you speak a little bit closer to the mic? >> Yeah. Thank you. >> So they asked me to speak on their behalf as well. U very small little
business here. I have uh from last Sunday to this Sunday I have lost almost 50% due to the clear of this road. Uh it has a immediate impact and it has a long-term impact on my business. The
immediate impact is I closed my shop today. I didn't open so I wasn't feeling absolutely well listening to all this. But great information. Thank you for sharing that. It was a public information. So it was great. But my heart was beeping because this time was the time I used to actually work. So I
didn't open my shop today. And I don't know what else people have in their mind. I have a small family. Long-term impact. The people who would not start coming to me, they will go somewhere else and that's become their habit and they will never come back again. So I really really want to
request you all please um help us out. I need we need help. There are two kind of businesses taking place there. One is subscription based model. You can imagine martial arts. People have already paid the money for the full month. So they're going to weigh the f
they're going to find the way to drop their kids. But for us if they have a two miles option available versus 8 month detour, nobody's coming to me. So you know my hands are here and I really need your help. I really wanted to see
some my own honors here to see why we are here because all who were impacted they are all sitting here with us. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Can I have you sign in on the sign in sheet too? Yeah, >> it's under the iswhat kamalar global
grill >> and Alison we need the um timer going for the >> okay that >> okay all right next >> and as I said we answer at after everybody's gotten a chance to speak >> thanks
>> list is Sammy >> Burgerer >> Hey there um I'm Sammy Ber back uh from 18 Park Hill Terrace. Um so I was uh interested in the election. Um and I think I actually talked to Linda over the phone. Um and something which I
noticed sort of in both campaigns uh there were a couple of major issues. The warehouses traffic roads sidewalks and kind of a lot of the running theme in all these things is uh people moving in and whether or not we should be encouraging that, how much of that uh we
want. For example, the warehouses were kind of built in part because they weren't a new housing development. Um, so something which struck me on this is um, nobody I don't think hates seeing other people around. The problem is the logistical issues which are imposed by
having more people in our community. But as long as we're not like destroying apartment buildings, rather kind of slowing down the building or building new apartment buildings, so we're only getting more and more people into the community unless we are taking away housing. Um, and in terms of traffic,
right, >> focus on, um, as long as everybody is using their cars just as much as they always have been and the number of people is staying the same or going up, traffic is only going to stay the same or get worse. Uh, and unless we start
fix that long term is to get more people to stop using cars. Now, I'm not an urban developer. I'm not an urban planner missing a lot of because I haven't been super involved in government long time. Um, so I'm not saying I have all the answers. In fact, if you take my answer, I would be a
little bit skeptical. Um, but what I would like to push all of you to do because the election was so close and matters to so many people is to kind of start the process, get the ball rolling. You know, get the right people in the room, start surveys, collecting data,
figuring out where, for examp, you know, where the cars are going, where they're coming from. get some people that can think of solutions who aren't me um to start thinking of solutions which are more systemic than just a new road here you know or a stop
sign there you know um because if we are doing it right when it becomes absolutely critical it's going to be uh a mess kind of and it's going to be over budget if we start planning out now a 5 10 year plan you know we give ourselves room we give ourselves it out over a
long period of time if we just start the process early. Um, it will be probably more affordable, uh, better run, better planned, and so on. So, I just kind of hope that we can, uh, get off on the right foot. You know, measure twice, cut
once, that sort of idea. Um, yeah, that's that's what I'm here for. Thanks all for listening. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um, Morali
Alison is that >> Oh, you came from >> Okay. No comment then. >> So, you're basically talking about the same local businesses. Same comment. Okay. Very good. >> Okay. And you're from the gateway
business, the Yummy. Okay. Yeah. >> All right, that's it for my list. Um, anyone else like to come up your public comment? >> Yeah, just jump in just because there was a discussion about Sorry, Paul Five.
>> Um, I I just wanted to say that um I mean this chemical thing, yeah, it could escalate into a quite big bill. Uh I was just uh thinking um you know you have those citizens residents that have sewer
and those that have uh septic and hopefully those that are on septic they don't get the bill for that huge bill that may come and so that's what I'm asking. >> Okay. >> Okay.
You need the presentation. >> You were taking pictures. If you need, you can have the whole I saw you. >> Alison, are we putting that presentation on the website, Township website, in case anyone wants to look at it? >> We can put that on the website and if anyone would like a copy, they can
always email me. >> Um, is anybody else wish to um give any kind of public comment at this point? If not, then I will close the first public comment.
And um would you like a first shot at answering anything? >> Yeah, I'm going to go first today. Um I see a lot of new people here for the first time to make public comment. Trust me, usually you don't have to wait this long. Usually it starts at Usually it
starts at 7:35. This is very unusual that we have two presentations and both presentation went very long. So apologies health meeting. >> Yeah. Apologies for uh making you wait so long that other generally she goes first but I'm going to go first. So um
quickly first uh thanks to everybody uh for their support uh for reelecting me for 4 years. Some are happy, some are unhappy but that's the time of the deal. But I really want to thank everyone from bottom of my heart for the trust that they have shown in me. I'm honored to be
the mayor and uh I do it because I love what I'm doing. Um the second thing a lot of people have congratulated me. I became a grandfather the day after the election. So that's a bigger win than winning the election. So I'm very happy about that. I have I had jokingly told
people that if you want to defeat me don't worry about election convince one of my daughters to get married and have a kid and I'm out of here. The kid was very smart. The kid waited till after the election. So I didn't have to I didn't have to break my promise. Um so I
will talk about the bridge that's a little longer conversation. Uh thanks for coming and working with uh uh Send Hanger Packing. Uh Melissa is great. She started right after I became mayor and I'm happy because she was asking township to open a pantry. We don't have
the facility bandwidth. So I really appreciate uh appreciate what she is doing. I will give you additional ammunition. Uh when we did our uh affordable housing plan um if you look at our affordable housing report you
will find that uh 40% of people in West Windsor earn less than $150,000. and uh 28% of people earn less than $100,000. Now, people may think that's a lot of money. That may be a lot of money in Mississippi. Doesn't go a long way in
West Windsor. Um CNBC just did a report maybe 3 weeks ago or how much income you need in various states uh to live. For New Jersey, just average New Jersey or overall New
Jersey, for a single person family, the amount was 108,992. For a 4erson family, the amount was 282,714. Now, that's average New Jersey. West Windsor is much more expensive than
that. So add at least 10% if not more to that amount. So people generally assume that Wester is rich and everybody can afford it. That's not true. I mean there are a lot of families um that are a lot of families uh who are struggling and
who need help and I really appreciate whatever you're doing. We try to promote uh St. Anger packing as much as possible. We have a uh we have a food collection at the senior center and again I try to put it on as much as
possible. So that brings me to this issue of affordable housing and that's being forcemandated on by the state. Um it's a very complex issue. It's not it's not solved by simply building 2,000 more homes or thousand more homes. And the
state need to um worry about um how we make it really affordable for everybody who is here. not just people who technically qualify for affordable housing because of um because of their income limit at this particular level
and I will take that opportunity and digress and you talked about election and this um the problem is not the election was closed the problem is that rest of the elections were not closed uh that's the sad thing the state doesn't
care the state feels you will beat up the local mayor in the council. Um, the state has the ability to solve this problem, not the local. The state forced us to build 2,000 homes in last round. I have a close session with the council
for this round. They are going to force us to build as many homes in next round, some homes when we settle. Now, if they ask me to build let's say thousand homes, I have to put it somewhere. You can bring Einstein here in this room
but thousand homes have to go somewhere. I mean I it's not relative. I mean you can't build in the house and if you build thousand homes those thousand people have to get wherever they are going to get and that's a problem and that has to be solved at a much higher
level than each township fighting to just manage that. Um maybe year ago I met somebody who doesn't live in town but he's a traffic engineer. I was explaining to him uh how the township grew in 31 years since I
moved here. And then he asked me a simple question. How many roads did you build new roads? And answer is sadly nothing. Other than that little old village road I mean village road and little reorganization of village road.
Nothing has been built and nobody will let you build a road. Nobody would let you connect two culdeacs who are back to back. Forget about building new home. So that problem is not going to be solved by six people here. That problem is going to be solved by change in policy
by the state government. People can beat me up. People can say whatever they want. They can elect five nine new mayors. Every mayor has cesan ties. When the state court tells you you have to build x number of homes, you have to build x number of homes otherwise the builder will go to the
state court and say hey my site is the most beautiful site in the world. Let me build I'll help West Windsor solve the problem. That is what the problem is. It's very complex. I can talk to you for 3 hours. So more important problem the bridge. Um it's unfortunate it happened
at this time. Uh the bridge is slated to be we knew the bridge was in a very bad condition. The bridge is slated to be permanently replaced in four five uh years time. What they did find last Friday was when they inspected that
there's a lot of corrosion and lot of things underneath the bridge is completely corroded. So they asked us whether we want to put a weight limit and take a chance and I don't want to take a chance. I don't want the bridge to fall when uh a big truck goes there.
So I told them close the bridge. Now the good news is everybody is taking it very seriously. We have had two meetings, one last week, one just this morning between the county, the state DOT and township. There were 26 people on today's Zoom
call. So everybody is taking it very seriously. Um they we did discuss lot of options. They have narrowed it down to two options. They are going to go and study this this week. We will again meet next week. We are going to reach to
Amtrak 2 because we need the bridge goes over Amtrak aligns. So we need Amtrak's permission to permission to um fix that bridge because they need to close some tracks for some period of time when we are doing when
they are doing the work on the bridge. My ask of them is to keep the closure as small as possible. Even if it's opened temporarily or with limited capacity, we will open it with limited capacity. But
I can't give you a timeline today as to how long it will take. I can tell you it's not going to be one week. It's going to be longer than that. But once they come up with a they discussed various options between engineers NJ transit uh I mean sorry a DOT engineers
uh the county engineer and our engineer they have narrowed it down between two choices they're going to go and study two choices and I have told them our ask is to use the choice whichever gets the bridge in operation the fastest even if
it means limited capacity. um and then we will worry about how to prevent uh bigger vehicles from going on there. So probably next week or a week after I will give you a much better um estimate but there's every effort made
to reopen the bridge as fast as possible in as safe a condition as possible. In the meantime, we did remove all the barricades. Originally uh the police had closed the road right here. We have put we have a we have a message board
outside owned by the township. We have put there and we have asked the county to put a message that uh road is not closed. It says now bridge out. It doesn't say road closed. Originally it said road closed. We have changed that. If you would think that another message
would help you let me know. We will put that message. I've also talked to the gentleman told him give me the names of businesses. I will put the names of businesses. I mean subscription business I don't have to worry about his right. I mean if I have paid for child care I'm
going there. Even if I have to climb a mountain I'm going there my kid. So uh all nonsubscription businesses uh just give me your names we will put it on. We try to promote it through social media. We try to do everything possible we can
and we will continue to keep promoting it. I mean you are part of our family. We don't want any business to fail. So, um uh that's that's the that's the update right now. But we will we will keep at it and we keep talking and I have to give both the county and the
state credit. They have been very serious. They have worked with us. They have been on the call and they have been active participants trying to find a solution that will work for everybody. So, >> okay. Mayor, can we look at like rewarding that detour sign so it's clear
that if you're on the road, you don't have to make that turn where it says detour because I >> I mean it it we originally the the sign said road closed. We changed that to bridge out. Um >> when you're driving on the road cuz I was there last night going going there,
there's a sign right at Emmens Drive says detour. So it's not really clear if you're on that road if you're supposed to turn off there. There should be something under it saying >> please keep you know saying stores this way and maybe a list of the names of
something that's clear. >> I I will tell you the same thing I told the gentleman. When you go home stand at that sign we have put signs there saying business is open and stuff. Read that sign. Give your suggestions. We will do
whatever suggestions make sense. Right? If you look at the uh if you look at our uh electronic display board, message board, we have clearly put signs that business is open. Uh that road whatever whatever uh signs make sense, whatever
tell people that the businesses are open, the road is closed. Uh we will do that. I will >> I I did see that there is um I think the uh we have another um sign by the fire station. Um, I think that's where we
need to clarify a little more because a lot of people are >> U-turning there instead of going forward to the businesses. They're thinking the roads are closed, they can't go. So, I think that's where if we can clarify that the business people will go for the businesses, I think that would help
quite a bit. >> We will do that tomorrow morning. >> And I think the police have those electronic billboards. They're, you know, there. Maybe we can put one of those up because the the billboard here, the permanent one. No, no, >> they did put they did put the temporary bill votes too.
>> Again, I mean whatever suggestions you have, just email us >> and we will implement whatever we can implement, whatever makes sense. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I think if the detour sign said bridge detour, that might make it more explanatory. or make it clear that you
keep going straight if you want to get to um these restaurants that I mean most people locally know the restaurants there, >> right? Because a lot of business are losing and we don't we don't want you to lose any business. So if we need to
change the signage or whatever we need to do, we'll get that done >> because we all like to eat there too. So, >> just a reminder to also update your websites as well. >> If you do have websites and use social
media, you may want to get the message out. You're open for business and you know, so on and so forth. Even though the bridge is out, we're open for business. >> Maybe Allison, we can get their contacts
and we can work with them. Yeah. >> Okay. Uh I think there was one other question from Paul. He wanted asurances we weren't going to raise uh charge him for um if he has septic or for if the
sewer rates go up and um you don't pay a sewer tax right now. >> You don't have sewer, >> right? So he doesn't have >> he doesn't have a sewer tax. >> I can't charge you for that. So you're not paying for it. >> Yeah.
>> You Yeah. No, you don't. This would come in the sewer tax, correct? So you don't have a sewer tax. You don't pay one. >> It's a Yeah, >> it's a long I I will talk to you. It's a long discussion. >> Well, if you don't pay sewer tax, I think you're >> you're not being charged.
>> And if this whatever they say were to happen, you will be thankful. And I'm glad I don't Yeah, we're just going we're just answering some of the questions from the audience. Yeah. Um I I think we've touched on everything during public
comment. I mean uh or during council comment I think every Yeah, >> she hasn't come. I I went first this time. >> Oh, okay. No, I'm just answering here that during council comment uh I think everybody here has probably done a lot with send hunger packing. I know I have.
I'm on the committee and everything. So, um, everybody will have a chance to to up it and to, um, you know, say different things that we can do. Thanks. >> Our township websites, the information about send hunger, packing, it's everything's still there and continue.
>> Yeah. And we've been >> there's actually several different programs. Um, >> okay. We can doing right later on. >> Um, Marina, >> yeah, I have two brief announcements. The first is um public works has
completed uh zone one. So we ask residents in zone one not to put anything out. Um and the crews began collecting in zone two um today. The second announcement I have is the
West Windsor Senior Center is sponsoring a food drive and it we're asking residents to donate non-p perishable canned foods and unexpired goods to feed local families that are experiencing um
food insecurity. Um, the acceptable items are non-p perishable foods, protein like chicken, tuna, canned vegetables, cereal, ravioli, beef stews, soup, shelf stable milk, etc. No glass
items, please. The drop off location is at the West Windsor Senior Center, 271 Clarksville Road, West Windsor, New Jersey. Um the collection period will be uh will begin November 12th and end on
November 21st. And all donations um that are collected will go to send hunger packing and the little free pantry. For more information, you can call the senior center at 609799068.
What I just announced is also on the township's website as well as um the senior citizens um web page. That's all I have. >> Thank you, Marina. Um I guess we'll go right into council
member comments. Linda, >> um yeah, this hunger packing is a wonderful organization. I I think that you're going to reach your goal without any problem of raising I think she said $40,000. So, um, West Windsor is is very
very generous. Um, and and even all like I belong to St. David's, there's, um, Beth Cayam, there's, you know, there's the mosque, there's there's just like so many, you know, religious organizations also. So, there there there shouldn't be
any problem there. And I think that um, as generous and wealthy as people are that they're always looking out for others and to help others because this is very serious. So thanks thanks you know for coming out and uh letting letting everybody know to be even more
generous because it's it's hard times for many people right now. Um the businesses will we we just discuss that so I'm not going to make any any further comments on that. Um but just keep us posted. Let us know are the cars getting
to the businesses or not? Do you need improved signage, social media presence, anything we can do to help you? um just continue to let us know because bridge pro projects whether it's major repairs or replacements take usually take um a
lot of time. So hopefully there'll be some solution to get that bridge at least partially um up and running again. Um okay, just regular comments. Uh on the 29th um I met with some high school students in an AP US government class.
It's Mr. Garzio's class uh from High School South. So I don't know if you guys went out but if you did you might have had his class. So it was great uh going before the students there and um you know making some comments and answering their questions. So that that
was that was very good. It's always an informative gathering with the students. Um on the Friday the 31st October uh visited the senior center to celebrate um the birthdays. They have a birthday club. So each month they get together and they have uh some food and there's
always singing. Even Sonia has some there um dancing Andrea has done that and heartfelt reflection. So it's it's it's a nice um uh nice event that they have each month most months I should say. Uh I went to two Diwali
celebrations Grover Middle School. So that was also a lot of fun to attend. And um let's see as we await the final certified results of the municipal um election. Uh I just want to thank everybody who voted for me and uh I look
forward to working with everyone uh for the next four years and uh the election's over. So I represent everybody and uh always whatever input you have any ideas please please let me know. Uh congratulations mayor and your
wife Punit for becoming a grandfather. Um he doesn't but uh yeah I became a grandmother in September and at the tail end of the election season became a grandfather so you know and we had also someone else uh >> little behind her.
>> Yeah. A parking authority chair had a sixth grandchild. So I don't know what happened with this election but uh but uh it was fun. It was it was interesting at the very least. Um, so tomorrow, November 11th, is uh Veterans Day. So I hope many people will come out um and
support the veterans uh especially at the 11:00 a.m. ceremony in the municipal complex. So I I I hear um the remarks and singing and different things u related to that ceremony. We'll be inside uh because it's supposed to be like very very cold tomorrow. Um so
we'll be here. So everybody, please please come out and support our veterans. And we thank our veterans for their um service and their bravery uh and preserving our freedoms of our nature that we certainly cherish. That's it.
>> Thank you, Linda. Dan, >> thank you. Um just to make a comment about the election, 10,000 West Windsor residents voted this year, which is really quite remarkable. So, thank you West Windsor for coming out to vote.
um compared to the last gubernatorial election that was nearly a 25% increase in in voter turnout. Not quite as high as presidential elections, but um it's wonderful to see people engaged and having conversations and talking about
what's important to them because that's how we learn to represent everybody and that's the formation and what drives good government. Um, thank you for Allison and and Elizabeth for stepping
up to promote Senduger Packing and specifically for this um, one project. It's people like you in our community that make this community so wonderful and why people want to live here. Uh,
and it is it's scary when you really think about how many people truly um are suffering and and in need. And that need didn't just happen because of the shutdown. That happens. That's a year-long thing. And um I think we can
all start looking at this much more seriously and continue um to be generous and help help our neighbors. There's actually numerous programs in addition to the the fund drive for the gift cards. That's a very specific cash
donation. Um, as Marina pointed out, there's actually a food drive donation at the senior center sort of related because shop is is managing that as well. Um, the farmers market is also um available for contributions. They
actually again year round provide assistance to shoppers there who are using SNAP and and um the the associated debit cards. So that's another place that you can make in addition to the contributions that you're making today.
Um so again, thank you for stepping up to doing that. Um I think um you're really setting an example for everybody in West Windsor to start paying attention to these issues. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Dan. Sonia,
>> thank you. Um, I don't want to go into detail and because I think pretty much everybody has covered everything. Congratulations, mayor, on becoming um, first- time grandparent. Um, I think that's an exciting time. So, enjoy the baby time as much as you can when you do
get some time and to do that. Um, thank you Elizabeth and um, forget the dogs. Allison for bringing up Shupe. Um I do work with Shupe U and Melissa quite a bit. So thanks for bringing that up. Um I know there's um in addition to the
farmers market and senior center, there are many other uh food drives that are happening. I know in my neighborhood we are collecting for homeront and Trenton Children's Society. So we there there is um I don't see an issue um getting to
your goal. So I think that would be great. And I know in schools we do do collections through the nurses in various schools. Um I have kids in the schools right now. So and I'm also involved with PTSA. So one thing we could do is um I do have a PTSA board
meeting coming up. Actually tomorrow I am uh in a meeting with the superintendent in the morning. That's why I won't be able to attend the veterans um day ceremony. I can bring that up there as well and maybe we can um send out a message through the um weekly newsletters. um because that goes
to every household um in the school. So I think that might be a great way of getting the word out. So I can certainly talk to the superintendent and we see what we can do there. >> Okay. Um I don't have much to say. Um I think we're good. I think everything is
covered. Um businesses I think mayor has already talked about. Um, so we will do anything and everything we can um to help promote the businesses and if you can just connect with Allison, our town clerk, and we can figure out how we can
help. >> Martin, >> sure. Thank you, Madam President. Uh, to the businesses um that have been suffering obviously due to the bridge. Um, I have felt some of your type of pain before in terms of trying to market
and promote to the local township. Uh, as I've said many, many times before, I ran the Windsor Athletic Club for 8 years, which is on Clarks for Clarksville Road. So, I know how difficult and hard it is traffic-wise to get people to come to your business. So, if there's anything that we can do, uh,
this council has obviously been very, very supportive of local businesses for many years. And as someone who ran a local business, I understand the challenges that exist, bridge being uh, reconstructed or not, bridge repair or not. So, I understand what you are going through. So, we're in full support. Um
to those who came here this evening regarding SNAP and food insecurity. Uh I've never hide or fearful of mentioning my personal uh family situation here in town. I'm one of the few obviously up here who moved
to West Windsor due to affordable housing. Have lived in affordable housing majority of uh my 19 years here. Um we've been on SNAP before. My family, I have five kids, my wife and I, we have five children. We've been on SNAP before. Um, so much so I remember many,
many years ago, I believe one of my children, kindergarten or first grade, wrote a journal about why mommy and daddy had a full basket of groceries and had to put it back because we had a card issue. So, I have felt the pain uh for
many, many years. Um, and not just something that's going on now. Obviously, as Councilman Dan Weiss mentioned, these are long-term issues that exist in this nation and in this state and in this community to many. Although we do have a very middle class
to affluent community, there are many individuals um within the fabric of this township who do suffer financially and foodwise. Uh one of many reasons I have never played victim. I've always been out here helping people because I also grew up in
a very poor urban community in North Jersey. So I know what it is to be on the have not side of things. And I think sometimes we're missed by the beauty and the fabric of this community which is incredible and great and not realizing that there are those who are suffering.
So I do charge this township and many people in this community uh do have resources uh either either financial or connection to businesses to obviously contribute and help for this cause. And let us not just look at the cause of
right now. Let us look at the cause in the future because as someone who has had many financial difficulties, food bills, things of that nature over the 19 years living here, um they just don't always disappear. And we should never
look down upon somebody. If you look down upon somebody is for you to put your hand out and help them get up. Uh that is what we should do intellectually academically financially secure as many in this community are. We should be about our neighbor. We should be about being a
blessing to the next person. And and um as we do more of that, we will be a better community. So I'm in full support. Uh I did want to write something. I did write a little something. So I'm being long-winded tonight. I apologize, Madam President. I'm usually say I'm brief and when I do
that, that means I'm going to talk a long time. So, tonight I just wanted to say um I wanted to commend uh all of the mayoral and council candidates for putting their names in a race to run for local government in this election. Uh I've run in four elections, two school
board, two for town council. Um congratulations to projected winners of the mayor race, Morate and projected council winners, uh Linda Jas and newly elected Joel Charles. This election, like most of the recent elections, to put it lightly, was very contentious and a close race and displayed differing
opinions and ideas on the state of West Windsor moving forward. Many voices were heard from both election teams, but West Windsor spoke and the results have uh will be clear, evident, and fair. From my involvement throughout the years and living here for 19 years, I've personally known of pretty much every
Wester Town council member and of course Mayor Shen and Mayor Morate who have been the mayors uh my 19 years living here. Um understanding the dynamic and intricacies of local government. It is underestimate understatement to say that I have absolute respect and admiration
for both them, Mayor Shang Meat, and for all council members before us on this day. Uh, with that said, I've said this before, but I will repeat it because sometimes it gets forgotten. Um, I do ser senly believe we have one of the most engaged town council administrations we have ever had since
I've lived here. And that is not any criticism of past township members or administrations. We have also had we also have the most diverse ethnically and politically council group. Um, as the first black man elected to council
in our 220 year 228 year history. As you look at us, we have two Jewish Americans, one Indian-American, one Polish American, three Democrats, one independent, one Republican. West Windsor, this is true democracy, transparency, and the majority of the ethnic and political makeup of the
almost 30,000 residents is represented right here on the STS. As a community, we should all be proud of having this diverse township town council West Windsor has ever had in terms of ethnicity, race, business background, educational background, sports, political affiliation, cultural and
social connectivity, and overall life experience. This is what true political involvement on the local election should look like. And collectively, as a township, we have done great things to get to this point. Uh there are a few that may disagree, but many who fully agree. So let it be known West Windsor
is definitely not failing the grade at all. Of course there is a lot of work that remains but we are on the right path and have been on the right path. For example, as township, our township has been voted one of the top 25 to 30 townships to live in in the country. One
of the top townships in the state. Uh we do have one of the top school districts in the state. Two top high schools on top five AAA rating, long-term AAA rating. And of course, our residents, as you are sitting right here, are beyond incredible. In addition, since the pandemic, the
state of New Jersey has seen a huge decline in retail businesses, and we just spoke about and our support for businesses. But in the last four years, we've had large large growth of businesses come to town, too many to name in the last four years when a third of district uh businesses in New Jersey
due to the pandemic did close down. With the aforementioned and many other important factors to make up in this beautiful vibrant community, uh there's no evident and clear indications that overall this township has not been on the true progression and of excellence. Is there a lot of work to do, a lot of planning to do and strategic and
dedicated work to continue in the efforts of having an inviting, safe, inclusive social and cultural environment that is important to most in this community and astounding. Yes, too much is going on in this world right now for sides and division to take precedence in this town. If we disagree
disagree on something that is fair, but the hard work, knowledge, experience, dedication, commitment, sacrifice from our families, we as council, mayor, and administration continually exercise should never be taken lightly or disrespected because you may disagree on one topic or another. Let's show moving
forward some civility and humanity across the board. For the most part, we absolutely do just that. But for some reason, during election season, September and October, divisional con divisional comments and interactions build up exponentially. The nation is very divided right now. We see this
politically. We see this on news. You see this on social media, on so many different topics and fronts. We can all agree on just that. But collectively right here in West Windsor, there's actually so much for us to be thankful and grateful for. Our family, our
health, our careers, our educational system, our neighbors, our police, our local government, and our residents. We have a beautiful community and we are supremely blessed. Trust me, we are supremely blessed to live in West Windsor. Let's maintain that true fabric
and essence of communal togetherness and keep building upon that foundation that was built well before many of us came here. Thank you. >> Thank you, Martin. That was fair loot. Okay, my turn. Um, I guess we've we've talked about the
um the bridge and we've talked about the businesses and I think we're going to do everything we can um to to try to promote because we want these businesses to succeed. Uh, as far as Shupe, I've been part of SHU for oh, I don't know,
probably before I was on council. Um, I'm out there at the DPW collections. I've probably done them 10 times out there collecting the food to and and we get cash. So the people here are very generous. You know, we go out there, we stop the cars and they say, "Oh, I didn't bring any food." And they'll hand
you a $10 bill or $20 bill. Sometimes I've gotten sometime once it was 75 cents, but that's what they had. So, um, so I I think this will this will be successful. I'm I'm proud that our senior center is is part of this
collection. Um uh I've been with Girl Scouts as they've built some of these little free pantries. Um and I've been um I've been at the at the uh Zoom meetings of Shupe and the in-person meetings of Shupe. I've sat there sticking the little stickers on as we
gave the uh we set up the things to give to the um to the schools. Um so I'm I'm all in on it. Uh whatever I can possibly do to get either and and we've been doing this for years. the the SNAP thing has just made it more of an emergency,
but this has been something we've been doing for years. Um, where usually around this time of year, we go for the gift cards and I know in the past years it's been like, well, maybe we can get $25 gift cards and 15. If we can do more this year, that would be a really great
thing. Uh, we did um back at the whack. I remember um Martin would help us when he worked there. We did our collections at the whack. Even during COVID, we put our masks on and people drove up and we unloaded their cars. So, uh I think this
this town will be very very uh generous when it comes to this. Uh I want to congratulate I guess um unofficially uh Mayor Morathy, Council VP Linder Jvers, and uh Council candidate Joe Charles on winning this hard fort West Windsor
Township election. And I want to thank all candidates at all levels for putting yourself out there. Only those of us who have run for public office know how hard it can be. Uh I also wish to invite everyone to our Veterans Day ceremonies tomorrow. My father, father-in-law, and
several uncles were World War II veterans. So this is always a very special day to me. Veterans Day comes around the anniversary of Crystal Knocked, which for those who don't know means night of broken glass. when in 1938 the Nazi hooligans in Germany went
around breaking windows and destroying Jewish stores and property. Today we're seeing the same thing happening in Europe and even the United States. And I know my relatives who served our country would want everyone to stop and think what that kind of behavior leads to.
Thank you to all who voted, including the 3,383 West Windsor residents. That's about a third who voted early. Mayor Morathi, Council VP Jas, and I worked hard advocating for the early voting location in the middle of West Windsor. And of
course, want to thank the county for doing this for us. Sometimes you can do something in this job you feel really good about, and that's one of those times. Tonight, council will vote on resolution 2025-R232, which accepts our grant application to
Sustainable Jersey for the residential energy efficiency outreach campaign as part of the sustainable Jersey PSEG energy efficiency partnership program. Congratulations to West Windsor for applying for and receiving this grant.
It'll provide us $2,500 in additional resources such as a website and mailings to promote the PSEG cost savings programs that are available to West Windsor residents. It's good for the environment and good for the residents. All residents are eligible and the lower
income residents will learn of opportunities to save on some or all of the costs of these energy savings projects. The ability to receive this grant money is one of the benefits of being a sustainable Jersey municipality. We just received our reertification at the
highest silver level and I look forward to having West Windsor Arnold, excuse me, honored at the sustainable Jersey lunchon at the League of Municipalities the week after next. In the past couple of weeks, I've been to several community events. The wonderful West Windsor Dwali
celebration was run with the West Windsor Recck Department and a group of community volunteers. The fire safety event was held by our volunteer and the paid fire departments 43 44 and 45 at the Carnegie office complex. And then
the Dutch neck cemetery sitting in my mouth was held by the West Windsor Historical Society. Thank you for everyone involved for organizing and volunteering for these events. I've also attended meetings represented West
Windsor with several committees. Uh the Mercer County EV steering committee, which is made up of Mercer County towns, um met Tuesday 10:28 and is working on switching the county fleet to EVs and improving charging capabilities in
Mercer County. West Windsor is of course in the forefront and we will be voting on our third EV for our fleet tonight. The Asen Pink Watershed Committee of the Watershed Institute which has been meeting for several years also had its meeting on 1028.
Most towns in this watershed are involved. I'm thrilled to announce that we found out on October 30th that the CR grant application to the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection to fund a regional watershed management plan has been approved. This is, I
believe, the first of its kind in the state. Thank you to Mayor Morathy for his letter of support to the D. And the Upper Milstone Watershed Committee of the Watershed Institute had its second meeting on Tuesday 10:30. We're in two waterersheds if anyone's curious and we
will be looking to do a similar joint project for water quality and for flooding related to the MS4 permit. Uh they also have many members from the Upper Milstone watershed. And that's all I had to say. And Allison, do you have any announcements? >> Um I just have a little more specifics
about tomorrow's Veterans Day ceremony >> include include the sandwiches in it that >> beginning at 10:00 a.m. at the Dutch Neck World War II monument. There'll be a short ceremony there following uh 10:30 at the All Wars Memorial here at
the Westminster Municipal Complex and ending at 11:00 a.m. or I should say beginning again at 11:00 a.m. at the American Legion Centennial Memorial. Um and a Veterans Day ceremony here in room A. Okay. Thank you. So I hope anybody who
is available during the day will will attend. Um go to the public hearing now. All right. 2025-14, an ordinance establishing chapter 166 entitled towing and storage of vehicles of the code of the township of West
Windsor 1999. >> Okay. I'm going to open the public hearing which is a public comment just on this ordinance uh the towing ordinance. So if anybody would like to speak on this ordinance, can you please come to the podium now?
Seeing none, um I'm going to ask for a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Gwas, >> yes. Gvers, >> yes. We >> Yes. >> Whitfield, >> yes. >> Mando, >> yes.
>> Okay. All right. And can I get a motion to adopt? >> Salute. >> Second. >> Is there any discussion on council on this ordinance? Nope. >> No. It came from the police department and it's been reviewed by the
administration. It's been have a big legal review. So, >> and then council. So, >> thank you. Now, can we get a roll call vote please? >> Garwas, >> yes. >> Jivers, >> yes. Weiss, >> yes. >> Whitfield, >> yes. >> Mandel, >> yes. >> Okay. Consent agenda.
>> Okay. Minutes. June 16th, 2025, close session. August 11th, 2025 business session. Bills incl. >> All right. Do we have Well, there's nothing to pull. Um, can I get a motion
to approve? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Garwas, >> yes. >> Chvers, >> yes. >> Weiss, >> I think I have to abstain from the June 16th. >> Whitfield, >> yes. >> Mandel, >> yes.
>> Thank you. >> Okay. and um recommendations from administration and council clerk. 2025-R232 authorizing the insertion of a special item of revenue into the 2025 municipal budget from the Sustainable Jersey PSEG
Energy Efficiency Partnership Program, $2,500. 2025-R233 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute the electronic grant extension request through the PMRS system for the
project known as LA 2023 SST Alexander Road pedestrian safety improvements 2025-R234 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute the electronic grant extension request through the PMRS system for the
project known as LA 2023 3 bike west Windsor Township Conover Road connection to Southpost Road 2025-R235 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute the electronic grant extension request through the PMRS system for the
project known as LA 2022 bike North Post Road connection to South Post Road 2025-R2336 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute the electronic grant extension request through the PMRS system for the project known as MA2024
Woodmir Way Improvements 2025-R237 authorizing the release of escrow balance for tax map revisions for the project known as Princeton University's Lake Campus EN19-10 2025-R238
authorizing the business administrator to purchase HP toner from SHI International Corp. under the New Jersey Cooperative Purchasing Alliance contract number CK04. So contract 24-38 with the county of Bergen $5,000.
2025-R239 authorizing the business administrator to purchase one 2026 Polaris Ranger Crew 1000 Northstar SSXs utility task vehicle UTV for the police division from
Atlantic City Cycle Center through Sourcewell Cooperative Purchasing Contract number 091024- PSI $33,79 2020 25-R240 authorizing the business administrator
to purchase one 2025 Chevrolet Blazer EVLT AWD including factory options for the Division of Health from Mark Anthony Chevrolet Incorporated doing business as Pelgro Chevrolet through Educational
Services Commission of New Jersey ESCJ Cooperative Pricing System number 65 MCEESCCPS PS contract number ESCJ23/24-11 $50,410 2025-R241 authorizing the mayor and clerk to
execute a 120 hour service retainer for the municipal network from Staret Solutions Inc. $14,400 2025-R242 authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute a professional services
agreement with center state engineering for construction administration and observation services for the project known as 2025 sidewalk repair program project $29,000 2025-R243
authorizing the mayor and clerk to execute a contract with T. Fiotakis Construction LLC for the 2025 sidewalk repair program $145,866 in 2025-R244 authorizing the mayor and clerk to
execute an agreement for renewal of membership in the mid Jersey Municipal Joint Insurance Fund for a period of three years to expire January 1, 2029. Does anybody wish anything pulled?
>> Seeing none, can I get a motion to approve? >> So moved. >> Second. >> Darw. >> Yes. >> Gvers. >> Yes. Weiss. >> Yes. >> Whitfield. >> Yes. >> Mandar. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. There is an additional um
there's no introduction of ordinances. So we do have one additional 15minute public comment period. Three minute limit. Does anybody wish to make a public comment? No. If there's nobody, I still have to >> as all right.
>> Oh, so how long do these normally go? >> Done by now. >> Usually usually done. We did >> There's some meetings that have gone >> some have gone very long, but this has a board of health meeting. So you have a separate meeting with and it we did have a discussion on on a uh ordinance which
is unusual addition to that we did have a presentation on something that went for a while which is important and uh there were a number of people here to give public comments and and what no it's good >> and you're making the meeting longer. >> All right I'm making it long. So now you
now I've gone on pass. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, that's it. >> Oh, okay. Well, now you know for next time. Thank >> Thank you. Okay. All right. And that doesn't even
include that we're have the >> committee reports. >> Yes. Oh, and and that we do have a close session at the end. Yes. All right. Committee reports. Martin, we'll start with you. Uh don't have a committee report tonight. Planning board will meet um next Wednesday, November 19th, here
at 6:30 p.m. >> Thank you. Um Sonia, >> portable housing meeting was cancelled for November. They meet next on December 4th. Parking authority meets this uh this week on November 12th.
>> Thank you, Dan. >> Uh board of ed met um last week. Two interesting presentations. won um their annual HIP review which um was very encouraging as they are showing trends of um incidents going down. Um part of
it has to do with um now this is the second year in a row where they have some um ability to predefine or or prevent um the the the HIP actually moving forward because they determine before it even gets reported that it's not really in um an an issue or
incident. Um but generally trending is going down so that's good. >> Okay. >> Meaning that a lot of times people would report a hip and it would immediately be reported in their stats and now they sort of do a triage because many of them are not really qualified as a a real hip
issue. So they've been given that discretion. This is second year in >> Is that it? >> I'm just curious why you find that humor. >> Oh no. I it's just like you're counting something but you're sort of changing the way of counting it. So it makes it a
little hard to do apples to apples. It's all >> Well, this is two years in a row now. So now we have a trend that shows good trend is good. >> It's all good. >> Um they also had a good >> They also did a report on the uh sort of their scholastic um detail. also a very
detailed. It was nearly an hour worth of statistics and data on every grade level going back five years to show how the various co cohorts um testing changes and improves um some little blips here
and there analysis that also breaks it down by gender by ethnicity. Um so you know the school I mean I'm preaching to the choir here is really on top of looking at um outcomes and making you know data
informed decisions based on on actual um an actual data and student performance. So very positive there. Um rec recreation commission also met and I just want to highlight a bunch of capital projects that they talked about. I know last time I talked about
everybody's very happy about they're planning to remodel all the bathrooms at the pool that's still um including the floor um and but some other things that uh capital projects for the in this sort of period before the summer new picnic
tables at community park and at the pool um after they do the repaving in the skate park. There's also new skate panels that are going to be put in and fixed there. Um, tennis court flood lights are being upgraded at the
Hendrickson um, facility. New lifeguard chairs at the pool. New uh, the big giant umbrellas, which they call fun umbrellas. Um, those are going in for the pool for next summer. >> Um, and then the last um, item is the
the drone fundraiser which is underway. We have don't we have I don't believe we have any commitments. I didn't talk I haven't spoken to Ken for a week. I'm not aware >> big >> and I'm not aware yet of any corporate donors. I'm working on a few but nobody has made a commitment yet
>> and I also don't have visibility yet into what the um the individual fundraising process has raised. I think Jersey Mike fundraiser got about 300 bucks out of that. I think all total they may have had about 500, but I'm hoping that as time goes by we will be
able to increase that. Are we seeing any resident donations? >> I don't have the visibility to that. >> Um, >> that was actually the shoot donate the shootute jersey mic one did really well. >> The problem now is that we have all
these conflicting asks for donations. Um so >> I have a possible donor that I'm working on. So I'll keep you posted on that. >> And that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Linda. Yeah, the November 26 Shade Tree Commission meeting has been
cancelled. Um, that would have been the day before Thanksgiving. Okay. Uh, however, there will be a special Shade Tree Commission meeting on Wednesday, November 19th, 6:30 p.m. in conference room B in the municipal building. Uh, for that meeting, I'll be down Atlantic
City with u with the rest of you guys. Yeah. Um the the Shade Tree Commission had had sent the mayor um amendments to the current Shade Tree Commission ordinance. It's mostly about their responsibilities and things like that. So, um I need to if you can review it
and talk to the mayor about it because I'd like to get that introduced if possible this this year. Um it's not a heavy lift on on these things, but um I want to get that one. >> It's in Q. >> Yeah, it's in it's in Q. Allison and I
had system. >> Yeah. Right. Well, I want to get this one out of the queue if we can because there's another one coming early next year of the bamboo they've been discussing. So, they're going to finalize that on the uh >> November 19th. We'll see that on the
agenda once it's posted. >> And that's it for me. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. And um the uh EC the environmental commission is going to meet on Thursday. So report next
time. >> Okay. Best uh discussion on best practices submission. Everybody should have gotten a copy of that. I believe um we got a something like a 43 score and I
think you needed what a 32 33 to get. actually um I'll give a brief overview because part of the requirement um of the division of local government services is
that I give a brief overview. Um the division of local service division of local government services annually issues a municipal best practices inventory which you have a copy of. that inventory is difficult to compare from
year to year because the questions change. Um, getting to the questions, there are a total of 50 scored questions, 37 dealing with core competencies which address statutory and regulatory
compliance obligations and other issues critical to sound municipal finance and operations. The best practices questions total 13 and that involves fiscal and operational
practices that are of significant benefit to municipalities but are not foundational in nature or uniformly applicable to all municipalities. In our instance, most of the uh best practices, I think all of
the best practices questions, total of 13, do apply to West Windsor Township. And then there are 20 unscored questions. Those questions are scattered throughout the inventory and the aim is
to provide information that the Division of Local Government Services wants to aggregate. Um some of the questions um there was a concentration of questions dealing with
the lead testing program. Um so they're gathering information as to I guess how towns are administering the program. Uh in some instances construction code offices are handling it. ours in particular
has has contracted that work out um because it does require a skill set that we don't have without having to hire another full-time person. Um so there in all there are a total of 70 questions.
Um the score for those questions that the town answered out of 43.5 the township scored 43. What this means is that the township
will get its final quarter or final aid payment uh in full. municipalities. Uh it's a sliding scale. For those that don't um score or score between zero and 23, 100% of their final
aid payment is withheld. I believe this is the highest score that the township has achieved. Um, I want to commend um all of the departments and the divisions of the township for um following best
practices and uh com having in place checks and balances. So with that said, um what happens is this survey was due to DLGS October 24th. This survey um gets submitted
through an online portal. It requires the certification of John M who is the chief financial officer. Uh it requires my certification as the business administrator or the chief administrative officer as well as
Allison Sheen, the municipal clerk. Um, the discussion appears on the agenda this evening because the municipal clerk must also certify that the inventory and the results thereof were discussed at a
public meeting. And she must insert the date on which the meeting was or will be held with the inventory results and the certification of same by the clerk, chief administrative officer and financial officer referenced in the
meeting minutes. Um we have not heard back from the division of local government services which is a good thing um because if there were technical or substantive issues
um we would have heard from them by now. So I do congratulate again um the work of mayor council and uh the department and division managers. It's certainly a team effort. I don't know if you have
any questions um that I can answer for you. Um just a quick a few a few things. Um 007A uh it's it's not for points, but it it says if your municipality permits one or
more classes of cannabis businesses, does your m municipality impose a local cannabis tax pursuant to NJSA 4048-1? So we we said no, but I was thinking maybe that's NA is not applicable. Is that what NA means?
>> They they require us to answer a certain way. >> I we we had to answer no. You either allow it or you don't. >> Okay. and the township um there was a township council and I think most most
members are that sit here tonight um introduced and adopted an ordinance whereby we have chosen >> Oh yeah yeah yeah no I know yeah the way they frame >> honestly this this information is submitted it can not cannot be changed
and it was answered in the format it it's preset you select yes No. Yeah. And in some instances non-applicable. For instance, non-applicable applies to um the um issue dealing with um
I think it's business opportunity zones or enterprise. >> Yeah. Number nine is not applicable. >> Yeah. Just weird because 7B is an if statement and if the if statement is not applicable then the answer is not applicable. >> But in 7A it's also an if question. But
but >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> And and part of the reason for some the points there are some points associated with unscored questions because it's basically extra credit so to speak that
>> adds towards the 43.5 >> and all of this is discussed in excruciating detail in the local finance study. >> I bet yes. So I tried to summarize it as best I can. >> Thank you. >> In um in 50 050 it's unscored again. I I
don't see an answer next to it >> again. Uh 050. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> There's no answer. >> Oh no. I think that one is is a >> there's a yes redevelopment. >> Yeah. No, that one is a weird question
because it asks this and then I think it talks and then it says select or something underneath. >> Well, I I think it means it means unlicensed like municipal clerk and >> but then I thought supposed to write down. Yeah.
>> Really really that question should have been a title for the questions below it because I looked at that last night >> and it again Yeah. That's the way they >> It's not designed by the township. It's de given to you. >> It is designed by a state agency and they had to give it through a rigorous
review process, believe it or not, before it's released. >> No, they they gave it a line number, but they didn't give it a yes, no, or anything to answer because everything underneath it were the answers. So, that's how they had to they couldn't they I don't even think it's a typo. I think they had to give it a line number
because that's the way they set this up. >> That's how it's set up for profession. So there is no way to do there is no way to answer. >> Well, it's well they're asking about unlicensed. >> Yeah. But then look underneath the next questions are service.
>> Yeah. The next questions then listed specifically. >> It's it's just a way of it's just >> you can say discussion ensued Allison in the meeting minutes. >> Discussion discussion on how the DCA designed the form and sued. Yes. >> Don't don't put that to the DCA though.
Um, now it was very specific. It was just unlicensed individual. We have our professionals are licensed, so I'm not like worried about it, but it's just I didn't I didn't see >> Yeah, >> I didn't see an answer to that. That's all saying. >> Um, that's
>> Yeah, I know. It looks It looks weird. >> Should we see this before it goes out? >> We have an answer. Do you think you >> We have to respond to it. We wind up gathering the information >> and honestly this is not a function of
this body. It It's not a function. >> That's just an information. >> That's right. The fact that we're getting our last full amount of aid payment is what you need to know. >> Right. >> But the administration must answer this. >> Oh yeah. No, you guys did a very very
good job. No, I think >> the only question is because like we're supposed to look at this publicly, review it, and >> well, we're discussing it and that's what we did. We reviewed it and discussed it. >> If we saw something specific,
>> I just want to say thank you. Great. 43 out of 43.5. >> Great job, everyone. >> Thank you. It's a lot of work. >> Good job. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> And you pass too. You know, right? >> They'll hire us again.
>> All right. >> I'm gonna send two down. So, >> she don't put that in. >> Okay. We've discuss Okay. So, we have discussed the best practices submission. We've
>> done what's legally required. >> Uh any additional administration updates or anything else? >> I have none. >> None. None. Allison. Good. Um, >> I do have one. Um, >> if any or all of you are attending the
league, please make sure you attend the session offered by the MEL, the Municipal Excess Liability Fund. The township gets $250 credit for each governing body member and I too go through the train.
>> I thought it was 100. >> No, it's 250 >> bucks. Yeah. >> So, if you're unable to attend it live, it's offered online, but really encourage you to do that. >> That's for the
>> you have to stand on everybody. >> So, that's that's my >> It's usually Wednesday afternoon, late afternoon. >> And I'd like I'd like a report from each member of council. is the biggest. >> All I know is they ask the same questions at the end each year to guess
what the what the judge is going to say and nobody ever gets >> it's 50/50. So you get about 5050 is the final. >> Interesting. >> Um >> okay, we're going to go into um so I
guess I should do a motion to go into close. Yes. Uh motion to go into close session please. >> Motion to go in close session. Yes. Yeah, >> I I second. >> All in favor? >> Now I have to do my reading.
>> Whereas NJSA 10 colon 4-12 allows for a public body to go into close session during a public meeting. And whereas the township council of the West Windsor Township has deemed it necessary to go into close session to discuss certain matters which are exempted from the public. And whereas the regular meeting of this township council will reconvene
and whereas the below stated subject matter shall be made available at such time as the issues discussed therein are resolved and its disclosure would not subvert any particular exemption for convening a close session. Now therefore be resolved at the township council. Will the township of West Windsor will go into a close session for the
following reasons without discussion of there'll be no action taken when we You can Yeah.