Building There. Good evening. It is seven o'clock and we are calling, uh, the Tuesday, January 20th, 2026 meeting to order. First on the agenda is public participation since nobody's here. Um, next on the agenda is review and approval of previous meeting minutes. I, I'll make a motion to accept the minutes of January 6th. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Anybody opposed? So, uh, we have no, um, we have no, we have one public hearing, uh, PR corp
for special permit per zoning ordinance section three dash 103 6 to construct a commercial building exceeding 1500 square feet at 2 88 Elm Street zoned core. Uh, we are in, of a request for continuance to February 17th. Do I hear a motion on that continuance Move and continue to February 17th. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. We are onto other business. We have cannabis control commission, social consumption regulations.
You want to start or you want Me to, um, Throw my 2 cents? Yeah, go Ahead and start. Um, everybody Knows how We feel. So the state is going to, and this is just my understanding of it, the state, correct me if I'm wrong, the state is going to allow, uh, public consumption of marijuana being cities that want to do it. Uh, city council has to pass. It has to be in certain places, has to have certain regulations. I I don't see anybody on the city council approving this.
So I'm, I'm not all that concerned about it, but I, if it comes anywhere near, um, getting approved somewhere, I think we have to put in some really big, uh, you know, guardrails. So there's not a problem. I, I can't imagine anywhere in the city I'd like to see have it happen. I have to agree with John. I think it's probably one of the more ridiculous things that the state is putting out. You're just asking for trouble, especially in a college town. I don't know if there's any way that we can do anything we can do to stop it. But especially with the, the strength of the,
the marijuana now is so much stronger than it used to be. And you're gonna have people leave there, get in the car and drive. So, in, in the, I guess unlikely instance, the city were to allow it anytime soon, um, under our zoning, it would still be regulated. And right now I think it would fall under the definition of marijuana shop. So it would go anywhere those could go, which is basically industrial a districts, Which is typically not set up for the public. Well, I mean, that's where the retail shops are. I get it.
So it be that kind of thing. But you made the statement that they have, the city has to hop in. Yeah. I mean it's, that Is, is that the city council's got to opt in or does it have to go before the public? I think it'd be by ordinance or referendum. I'm, I may might be an option, I'm not sure. But, um, Okay, good. If, if it gets to the point where they start talking about it, I think as I think as a planning board, we might want to consider looking at it as, do we want to go against this opt-in and do an do and just not,
and suggest recommend we don't opt in at all, you know, use our board. And again, this is my opinion, if we've got your own opinion on it, that's true, you can use it. But my opinion would be we just, we'd opt in and we would don't want them to make this option available in the city. I I think they city council would've to ask us our opinion before we No, they don't have, we can give 'em our opinion without asking us. We can, can't we, can't we tell 'em we we're against the opt in thing? I, I would think we, I I'm assuming we could, but I would think we'd wanna wait for them
to ask us our opinion. They, I mean they, Well, no, no, no, no. If they, if it doesn't happen, we won't do anything. But if they start looking at it to consider, I think we ought to take, go, go over there. Once it's, if it becomes active, then I think we should take it, take the initiative to tell him that I I, I think this meeting alone is going to bring, um, bring it to their attention. And the mere fact that right out of the shoot, two or three of us sitting up on the board immediately are against it. So I I, I don't think we have
to actually formally send them anything. I, I think they're gonna get the message that planning board is, is high on their list. And from go from there. I don't know. Jay, can we give it to them? If, if they don't ask us, Yeah, you can send them a communication. Yeah. We're probably more salient when it, if, if and when it becomes a topic of discussion, which again, I really don't anticipate. I have gotten a few phone calls from people asking if Westfield might be interested. Mm-hmm. Um, What kind of people are we talking big restaurants? We talking, um, boutique restaurants.
What are we talking, are we talking small, small Cafe? I mean, not necessarily restaurants, but they would be, you know, cannabis companies or someone looking to start something new. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's pretty new now. Again, I, I don't see Westfield at the forefront of, of this anytime soon. Mm-hmm. So Jay, we have the third licensed, uh, distributor coming in whenever it's ready. There's, there's four approved licenses for Westfield, right? Mm-hmm. Available, Well, one available. So if somebody wanted to come in
and be a marijuana store, but also with the foresight to see they wanted to do some kind of, uh, outdoor or some kind of public consumption, um, that could happen right? Then it, then it is on us. 'cause it comes to us first. No, I mean, first the city would need to just opt in to allow them to even pursue this. Um, and then it would come to you through regular site plan or special firm, whatever, whatever trigger it was. Um, it, it's not like they would, I don't think it's a case by case type of thing.
I think the city would need to opt in generally to allow these, and then anyone could even the existing facilities could pursue it if it, if the city allowed it. I kind of see it set up like, um, you go into a cigar shop, you know, and they have the HEOR that they can add on and you can, you can go into that room and, and, and, um, try some of the marijuana. They also have, what do they call 'em? I went down in Florida. When I go visit my family, they have um, they call hookah lounges.
Mm-hmm. Um, yeah. So, um, I don't know what they're smoking, but I go in there and with my niece and, and just check it out and I walk back out. But I don't know what they're actually doing, but I think that's what they call it, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. So I can see where they can add on, um, to be able to do this. And this is probably the kind of use that would be suited to downtown type of district if that were something Westfield or More of a social Establishment. Yeah. More of a, you know, Right. Like
I, you know, HETA is probably a good facility for that 'cause it's giant, but who's gonna go want to smoke pot behind the state police station? Yeah. Yeah. Again, it's probably, these are probably crafted with urban situations in mind, type thing Thing. Why wouldn't you? You Know, It's allowed, It's still legal to be intoxicated though, so it's, it's, Well, you can't, you know, so let's just legalize everything. Not true, but I don't have as strong you guys do about,
Honestly, You Don't, from what I can see, the state is, is one of the first to really kind of get on board with this, uh, in the eastern on the East Coast. Uh, I think there, from what I read, there's about a dozen states that do this. And I did a little research and, uh, big out in California. I, I, my personal opinion to see what's involved, I don't ever see, I shouldn't say I can't see in the next four or five years. Uh, one of these opening up in little Westfield, Massachusetts. I just can't see it. It's different than the retail shop. People are more about, uh, going in there, getting what they need. If you stand outside of Canada shop,
you'd be surprised at the average age of these people that are going in, they're not 2030s for the most part. They're 40, 56-year-old that are, are going there. And one of the things, um, and I'll just share a story that, um, we talked, Jamie Point pointed out the, uh, uh, what is made of today, what cannabis is all about today. Cannabis said, yeah, there are super strengths. They are medical grade strengths of cannabis. So I doubt very much that they'll have medical rates, strength. One of the things that, that I would love to see someday I don't drink. I did drink, but I don't drink anymore, is I would love
to be able to go into the tavern when my wife is having a glass of wine and have a seltzer, a cannabis infused seltzer, five milligrams. I can drink. I I've had that. I could drink five of those no problem. Whereas if I was drinking beer, I couldn't drink five beers with no problem. Mm. So I, I I, I think if you've kind of lived on both sides, I'm not a proponent of the smoke. I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm not talking about that. I just don't want to see a ski too far ahead of everything and shut down everything. 'cause you have to remember, we have the two cannabis stores
that are open now are owned by two guys that grew up in Westfield, that worked for the city of Westfield and have come in front of us and have done a fantastic job, have made some money, and both of these guys, um, have moved to different locations. One has opened up a location in Southwick and the other opened up a location in West Springfield. And one is going, maybe both are going to start growing. They're gonna start growing, growing on cannabis. So I don't think if there comes a time where, um, they want to have like a vendor event and not saying everybody's gonna light up joints on the
parking lot next to the Hampton Inn there. But if they want to have a, a, a vendor that's got seltzer and want, you want to come in and try a seltzer. I don't, I don't see a problem with that. You know, that's just me. We all, we all come from different walks. I've walked down the alcohol side and I've walked a little bit on the cannabis side. So Are you talking about the CBD drugs? No, no. They're cannabis. Cannabis infuse. Okay. So is that prohibited right now? What's that? Is that prohibited right now? It's not prohibited in my garage. No. It's, uh, no, it's not prohibited. You can go and get a five milligram THC, uh,
seltzer at over at, uh, um, any of these, uh, locations. Or if You go, so you have to buy it at a cannabis store. You can't get it at a bar. Yeah. But you can't get it at a bar right now, a convenience store, I assume social consumption would cover that type of thing. So maybe, you know, I haven't dug into the regulations, but, You Know, would they have to get a separate license for that? Like if the tavern or, um, Westwood if they wanted to serve those type of Drugs? Oh yeah. The state is pretty regulates this
pretty tightly. Yeah. Uh, Dylan, you said, I don't have a strong opinion on it anyway. I, I, I'll, I'll be, I, I would like to hear, I'd like to have you elaborate. The only thing that is a problem is, uh, that potency's not regulated. I feel like if we had an easy way to, like, if there was an easy way to regulate potency, like it got mentioned if it was like alcohol. 'cause I mean, obviously when alcohol was just rampant, I mean, every version of potency there is, it was also not like, not advisable, but now that it's, you know, regulated 5%, 8%,
we don't have a problem with alcohol. So it's, if it gets to a point where everyone has the same control, which I, I, I guess now it's problem doesn't have it, but I, I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was easy regular potency, or do I have a problem with it with anybody of my friends that do it now? It's a lot less detrimental to alcohol. I, I I'm kind of glad you brought Oh, of course. In my opinion. Yeah, absolutely. You'll Be surprised to hear this from me, but I have several friends that are very regular users and they tell me from just the past 10 years, I don't know where they get it.
I don't ask them. The potency is much, much greater. I don't know Bernie, where they get it, I don't know if they get it. Well, I dont understand, is you can go to, you can go to South Hampton, right? South Hampton Road, and you can get something with a 17% potency. Right. Or you can get something with A 35% potency. Right? So It's up to the adult, right. To choose what potency they Want. And it's, it's kind of like be, you know, with the, um, absolutely. You know, the, the, the, the volume of alcohol per beer. And I have a lot of friends that will go
and they don't want that beer because it's, it's, the alcohol volume is too big, too high. But I just think, you know, there's no way to tell if a policeman stops somebody, there's no test like there is for alcohol. Uh, you could smell it on somebody, but they could just say, well, it's just sitting there. I wasn't, you know, smoking. If there was a better way to regulate or for police to judge who's driving under the influence, um, as far as I'm concerned, one accident, well, one person dying from that accident and one too many when we have, you know, like you said,
alcohol, can't put that. We tried that with, with prohibition. Can't put that one back in the box. So it just keeps going, you know, after this it'll be, well, cocaine, we can't, we, you know, have a little consumption place for cocaine. Sure. I don't think Far that's a real reach. That, that's what I thought. With, with marijuana, that's not a real reach. Yeah. Yeah. I think It's, well, we'll see when we die, who's right? You could, but you did make a fair point about, um, uh, the police not having enough currently to,
to judge exactly their intoxication if they pull 'em over. Right. So I I agree with that. Right. And I wish there was something that they could do. You know, like I said, they, you say, well, you smell like an hour, was sitting there with some friends, but even if you're sitting there, you're still getting the second hand, uh, smoke from it. Anyways, that's all I'm gonna say. Cheryl, you were gonna say something? Um, yeah, I'm probably gonna throw a monkey wrench, but I'm struggling with this. Only for the fact that you can go into a bar and drink a hundred proof and walk right out the door
and get in the vehicle and drive. And most of those people that are drink hard or whatever, you're gonna have accidents, fatalities, if they regulate the marijuana, which I can kind of kind of see that happening. If you set these facilities up or you have social consumption, I can't see them with the state allowing such a high content of GHC knowing that they're doing the same thing as somebody who's in a bar to walk out and drive wherever they're going. So I'm kind of struggling with this
because it's kind of like saying that alcohol is okay, you can go in and get smashed, walk back out. But again, being an adult, you have to be responsible. But not everybody does that. But then we're saying marijuana is not gonna be acceptable. I personally don't like the smell of marijuana, but I'm not against it. But I'm just saying that it almost seems like, um, if you do for one and then you have this new one out, I, I don't understand how we can say marijuana. Having a social consumption is not any different than having
social consumption of alcohol in the bar. That's my take. I'm just throwing a monkey wrench. That's fair. I I can state this right out front. I don't want to be the first town in Massachusetts to do this. There's no doubt at my mind on that. I, I, I want to see somebody else kind of blaze a little bit of a trail. Um, I'm looking at, and Bernie, I give you credit. I wasn't thinking about it in those terms of, you know, uh, cannabis infused seltzer. Okay. But I watch my kids drink all this other infused
seltzers with, you know, alcohol infused seltzers. So why wouldn't it be the same thing? Um, and if you're at the tavern drinking a cannabis infused seltzer, I would assume that if you have five of them, it's gonna put you in the same issue if you have five beers. Um, it, my, I I was thinking about it in terms of you go to the restaurant, okay, you know, I'll have the, um, I'll have a piece
of cheesecake at the end, or I'll have, um, cannabis infused brownie. Okay. One of them is just gonna clog my arteries and across 25 years, and the other one will have a delay, and then I get behind the wheel of a car. That was a concern of mine, but I didn't think about it your way. And that's an interesting take. But I, one of the things I was thinking about is, would it help our businesses, would it help our restaurants? And how do our restaurants feel about it? You know, do you know
the goal is to attract business downtown? And, um, there is a social goal here as well, and I'm not, I don't know if they're at working at opposite ends of each other, or they can be merged together. I don't know. But I do know I don't wanna be the first town to do this. Um, Well, my question is, right now, if a bartender over serves somebody and they get outta your car and they have an accident and kill somebody, the bartender can be sued too. Mm-hmm. Would that be the same case? And at what level?
And how do you know? No different than alcohol. What was that? No, no different than alcohol. Uh, I would assume Jane, that is, that that is not state law. That is more civil law. Civil, civil tort. Right. And so I'm assuming if, you know, the liability is probably the same. Yeah. So if the, if It would be the same, but I think it's harder to prove of that, then. Yeah. Unless they get 'em right to a hospital, get a blood test anyways. Yeah. But what we don't know is what's the,
you know, in a, in a homemade product Okay. Which a lot of boutique restaurants do. Yeah. Okay. You don't know the difference between, um, a low dose of cannabis or a high dose of cannabis, you know, using Bernie 17 or 35%. You don't know. You don't know the impact on the person sitting there. Um, so, uh, you know, there's a lot of pitfalls here. Um, there is some positive in the fact
that it might help some of our businesses, uh, some of our restaurants. Okay. I I do think we need to tread very, very likely. Um, but, um, yeah, I'm not, I'm not totally on board. I don't Think there yet, though. I, I'm intrigued by that, to be honest. I am too. I Think I really am. It's actually a pretty cool idea. Un unfortunately, when all this first came around, and this came around five years ago when we were talking about the cannabis stores mm-hmm. Some of the city council wanted it to have it downtown.
And all I'm thinking about is these patios and these rooms filled with Cheech and Chong that open the door and a big puff of smoke comes out and the whole city stone, that, that's the picture I don't want, but That's it. But that picture can't happen because you can't legally smoke. So what you're talking about is you Can, in a, in a, in a, what we're propo what the proposal is, if we allowed it, that's what this is all about. So, so right now you can go into the taver. You can't go into the tavern and light up cigarette.
Correct. You can't go into rallies and light up a cigarette. You can't go, you know, you can't go down to the lov alcohol and light up a cigarette. So what makes you, what makes me me think that I would be able to go to either one of those establishments and light up a joint If the cannabis connection wanted to put a hookah room in the back where you could buy some stuff in the front and then go in the back and smoke it with your friends. That's what we're talking about. Because that's an industrial a mm-hmm. So it's allowed. Um, but That's what I Was talking about.
Those things don't line up for me, the industrial and entertaining That makes sense. It doesn't make, you know, It doesn't, that makes sense. Okay. I get that. That makes sense. I would guess, bill, we're not talking about restaurants or bars. They're just gonna have this as an option. I would think the amount of red tape and licensing and state oversight, you would need that. These would just be standalone, uh, cannabis only type of facilities. That's my, at least initially, uh, No. Can I see anybody like smoking it out in public
or outside in restaurants when you cannot smoke a cigarette? I can see this would be a problem. If you can't, if you don't allow somebody to have a cigarette, then you can't allow somebody to smoke marijuana outside in an establishment. Mm-hmm. Or an event. Well, they, they do Smoke cigarettes outside the establishment. If they want a cigarette, they go outside and smoke. Correct. Right, right. But, but I could see somehow down the road them allowing, uh, marijuana infused seltzer or a marijuana infused brownie bill's got me
thinking about brownies now. I mean, I think that could happen. I think states very Do. I don't think we're gonna see this for a long time. If we ever do. Honestly, from what I read and what's involved in Massachusetts, like I said just a second ago, they don't even have the applications ready to fill out yet. And, uh, I I, my thing is, we have a smoking and you could walk outside on our way home, and everybody in this neighborhood would be light up a newbie Go to go to New York City. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Go to New York City. Well, you Smell it everywhere. Yeah. Smell When we play pickleball ball over there. Oh, cow. We know it. Yeah. First they got the bacon going on Sunday
morning, then they got the week going at 10. So, um, yeah, it's, it's everywhere. But Jay, you just said that. I don't, how did you phrase it? I don't see, I see it, I see it being, um, specific, uh, establishments designed for this. Okay. Right now. And, and I agree with you. I think you're right. I think John's right. Okay. I don't think Bernie's far off. Okay. But when we first started down the cannabis road, I was like, there's no way I want, um,
a cannabis store in downtown Westfield. But I also recognized it'd be no different than a liquor store. You're selling basically the same thing as a liquor store. But now I sit here and think to myself, well, could I put a cannabis store in business BI mean, there are a whole bunch of places right along, um, east Main Street now, right in the shopping plaza. I'm like, okay, perfect location for cannabis store. So I don't think we're as far off as we all perceive,
and I don't think we're as far off somebody turning around saying, Hey young, here's your MOCA latte, and by the way, here's, you know, uh, you know, a half inch by half inch cannabis infused brownie. Uh, I don't think we're that far away. No, they do. So there are three license types they would offer. One is supplemental, which would be for an existing, which marijuana place like Cannabis Connection. One is hospitality for new or, or established non-cannabis business, conceivably
that could be a restaurant or a bar. And third is an event organizer for like a temporary, temporary type of event. Yeah. But I, I do agree with everybody. I think we need to take it very slow. Very slow. Yeah. Um, I think we need to see who succeeds, how they succeed, why they're succeeding, and who failed and why they failed. And I don't think we should be first, There are states that already have some of this in place, and it might be wise to, uh, reach, go out
and fight, reach out, reach out to, um, law enforcement that have already regulated some of these locations. They doubt it'd be out state. It'd be like reaching out to somebody in Colorado or Washington and we could get ahead of it just to do our own education because they already have some data. Are are you suggesting a junket? I A field trip? Yeah. I mean, field trip. Field trip. I'm just saying it is weird you we're talking as if there's nothing out there right now, and there's plenty. So we could, we could educate ourselves about what already law enforcement are dealing with, with
where it's already legal. Um, but you're right. I don't think it's gonna be around, but we could at least get ahead of it so we know what's coming. We're really starting to get a nice burgeoning little restaurant row downtown. Mm-hmm. Okay. It, it's really nice. It's nice to see. Okay. And they, they're succeeding. Okay. Um, you know, I heard somebody's coming in, uh, from Chrissy G's place, so they're gonna reopen that as well. So it's a nice, Somebody's going into EY g's That was place Where she left Chrissy
G's Oh, yeah. In The big, you know, so there's a nice little, it's really starting to grow. So I think, you know, we should do what we can to help them, but we need to be cautious. Anybody else got anything else on this? We good, Jane, I don't disagree with you. It's It, and it's, it's a slippery slope. First it was medical marijuana, and then it was, you know mm-hmm. Legalized as lion. You're not doing in public. And then we get the grow places, then we get the consumption places. Now they want, you know, the establishments. What's next?
There's every, there's always people willing to push that boundary. And the next thing, the next thing, next thing. I, and I think that is probably my main argument against it. I, I think there's enough going on in society that, that we need to put up a firewall somewhere, you know, between the alcohol and kids, you know? I don't know. I'm not expressing it very well, but I just think it that that'll be the next thing.
Can I tell you what I told my kids? Sure. I'd love to hear what you told Your kids. Took them 70 years to go from legalizing alcohol to legalizing marijuana. Okay. So if you use that simple data, the next step is 70 years legalizing heroin. Well, It's, it's, it's, it's, your slippery slope is not wrong. The question is, is when will it Occur? It won't be 70 years. It'll be a lot quicker. And be, I hope not. I hope it's never, never, I hope it's never true. But it'll be cocaine then It's heroin when,
and then we'll give the, you know, the paraphernalia to do it. That's Is dangerous. Thoughts. You, you got clear death data for the things you were just talking about. I, Not the same. I I don't disagree with you, but It's dangerous thought. We haven't had any problems in the, what? Seven years that marijuana's been legal. Really hurt a lot of problems. And people worried about the trucks that were making delivery people gonna be robbing the trucks. One of the things that we've seen is there's a lot of competition out there. Cannabis is coming down and pricing that you've never seen Leveling Out. And they, they're failing because of the pricing drop. Yeah. But the two in Westford are doing very well. Yeah.
And, And they're growing. Yeah. I would love to, to talk to either of those two guys and see what they think and what their plans would be. I really don't think that you'd have a little downtown, uh, restaurant that would even want to spend that kind of money to get involved in something that probably won't work. People aren't gonna go in a restaurant in downtown Westfield, or even at the tab here. It's an established place in light of business. I just Can't. No, but I, I think they would want to have a cannabis injected seltzer or cannabis brownie. I, I have no objection to that. Um, Yeah, Bernie, I still have friends that teach
and there are teachers that go out and greet the kids that come to school in the cars. And she says, those kids, kids, not all of them at eight 30 in the morning are wreaking because the parent has been smoking on the way to drop 'em off at school. That should be illegal. Well, they're still doing it. I think it is. Well, That's, that's another problem. But, right. That is illegal. If They, if they smell it, I don't care. You Smell of cigarettes. No, I, I think, uh, capitalism is keeping the, uh, stores down in Westfield.
We could have four. Yeah. We only really have two. One opened and closed. So. Well, it can get oversaturated. You don't want to have, you know, Well, initially they were making tons of money when they're standing in line for an hour and a half. Right. Everybody wanted to get in on it. And now it's settled down. I wonder how much has taken away from the, um, the dealers on the street. But I think Westfield has done a pretty good job of this. I really do. I think we have done a pretty good job of it. Um, so all right, next on the agenda, annual election designation of officers.
Representatives effective next meeting. Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Um, you Want us to I accept, Did You hear me? I did. I accepted. That's, I except them on behalf of Phil. I accept. Wait, did somebody just make a Nomination? No, John, John jokingly said, should I nominate Phil because he's not here. Can't do that So well. So I, my opinion, the past, this past year has run very well.
It's, everything's moved smoothly and I'm of the opinion something's not broke. You don't fix it. So I think we just should continue with the existing plan the way it is with everybody. Uh, unless there's somebody who really wants to move into a different position, I think the guys that are doing it are doing a wonderful job and need to stay there. The only exception I'll make to that is for the Pioneer Valley Planning Commission, which is currently me. If someone else wants that, I would step back.
But that's, I will take it if nobody else wants it. So that's my opinion. I agree with you. Bill and Cheryl make things run very well. They very proactive and on top of everything, anytime there's an issue or they feel there may be an issue, they're right on top of it. I know a lot of time that you guys put into it. Do you Want to sit here? Who? Not this. Here. Excuse me. Okay. Alright. Um, just wanna make sure I'm asking. Thank you. So, So that sounded like a motion and a second for the current slate. Yes. Second, whatever.
Oh, somebody made the motion. I thought, oh, Rich kind of did. Oh, okay. Lemme get a motion. Do we maintain the officers the way they are And I'll second it from The current year going Forward. Just 2 20, 26. I'll second that. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Thank you guys very much. I appreciate the Thank you. And Cheryl, thank you. Next on the agenda is Name plate, Our member name plates. So I just forward you an email from, uh, the school. I guess the question is, do you like them hollowed out
or would you want a solid Look? That's, I I like the one that you have right here. There's a new one. It, it, it, it's nice. And it stands out. The outline version. Yeah, I do like that one. But that's up the rest of the board. One. Oh yeah, I saw, did you send us one? Sure. Thank you. Just one, right? Just one photo. Yeah. Yeah. That works. Now are they gonna, how are they gonna mount that? Talk about putting it on A, yeah, putting it on a wood. Uh, As opposed to solid like that.
Uh, what do you say here? That would be solid. Yes. I guess it would be easier to, which would be at least Expensive mounted on wood. Somebody donating these. Somebody donating these or would It be Tech academy Tech Is gonna do it. So we have to pay for materials or time or anything. Yeah. I mean it's, this Would be least expensive. It's not terribly expensive. No, I think we just make a difference so that we can identify the two. So it's easy to put out. I want send tax dollars. The picture in here is not solid. It, Yeah. That's outlined. So thanks. Do outline, Is it the same
as the um, the city council? No, these are on a, on a, Okay. So they're a little bit different. They're are different. Kind of what? They're more like this? Yeah, more like that. And I think they're gonna like this. They'll mount them on of wooden, uh, wood is Uh, is that rich? What do you got? It's like, it's carved out like plastic. Yeah. Know that. So people like the outline. I can do the outline. Sure. Yeah. Spell my name right. Easy enough. Okay. Anything, anything new.
You wanna update 'em on the positive lights? Go ahead. Uh, Dr. Peter Miller last Thursday. And so right now, um, everything's been set up and the lights should be up and running from Elm, the Plaza and School Street. By least looking at February 14th, the street lights, the school string lights, I here at the beginning. You talking about School Street Or, um, Elm Street. Elm Street. Elm Plaza and School Street. The LED string lights.
Wow. Yeah. And we pushed a little hard, actually I have to thank um, bill. He's the one that came up with this bright idea. And then, um, uh, Ray Aire helped me do lot measurements accounting as well as my husband. And then Peter Miller finished it off and it ended up being a cost of 3,500. Instead of like the 5,000, I projected 5,000 and thought it was crazy, but it ended up being like around 3,500. So we did very, very well. So that's what we projected of him up. That's cool. And it's under the planning book.
'cause this is where it started. Well now we're gonna get the blame I complaints. It will, it will change the downtown. It will change the downtown. Mm-hmm. And again, like I said, we have a nice buring little, um, restaurant thing going on. Yep. I think it will really help them out. Yep. Businesses are excited. Good. Thanks for all your work on that. Cheryl's teamwork, my dear. I Think it's gonna be a nice addition. No, it is just gonna go. He is gonna go Right across the street or are they just on the Sides? Well, How it works is because of the, the, the, um, gaslights ones that run down Elm Street.
I can't put 'em above, you know, you have the arm that comes down to the two lights. So it's gonna wrap from the, the double arm straight down because there's one electrical outlet there. I can't run 'em. We can't run 'em up because they need the electrical power up above for the Crispus lights. 'cause these lights are staying up the poles on School Street and the Plaza, they will be wrapped all the way up to the top of the pole and plugged in. So, um, if that's answering, so it starts with Franklin all the way down. Um, the school street, school street and the Plaza.
Okay. But it's, they're just on the pole itself. They're not strung between the Poles. No, we can't string them string. So they're strictly the poles themselves. They're Limited. Correct. After three tries, bill knows that we would, this is our third attempt. Yeah. Yep. Sounds very nice. Answer your question. That answers my question. Okay. Good. Any, anything else new? No, we good? Alright. Our next meeting is, Do we have one the second February 3rd. Third, yep. Um, we'll have the public hearing on the best moratory.
Okay. On the best. On the best moratorium. Good, good. We made a newspaper on that. So all declare this meeting adjourned. Do you need a motion? No, he can declare. He can. I.