Start the meeting with the pledge of >> allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
>> Okay, jump right into it. discussions because we have Michael here and we have Dana here. So, uh, >> is there a head lifeguard report? I might skip to that. >> Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I mean, there's really not much going on right
now, but I did have a meeting with um the AC public safety meeting with uh with Horseneck, um the Harbor Master, Westport Fire, Westport Police this uh this past Tuesday. And we just went over a few things kind of when they're starting up
and um different training um sessions coming up. Maybe we don't have a a definitive date, but we'd like to do a joint training session with every everyone meeting with uh the police department, the harve master, horsen, all that. Um >> and the guards.
>> Yeah. And obviously the guards. Yep. Uh and also uh another thing, actually a couple other things. I've made uh some amendments to the uh working on making some you know amendments to the EAP because we discussed about sadly the uh
possibilities of um what would happen during an active shooter or a bomb threat which that happened on a Bondi Beach last year. So I'm looking into that to see what protocols would be for that because honestly I'm not really too sure and I'm doing research on that. Um
and then let's see uh also too the uh the police department has been uh very kind and generous to offer us to or they would help us um they would fly they have a drone and they would fly a drone over our the cherry web for training purposes and we could look at rip tides
and the way the uh waves basically form and the different um patterns that the uh ocean takes. So that was pretty much that so far. Um besides that, um that's pretty much it. >> What do you need to do between now and
start up besides the uh orientation? >> Okay. Yeah, pre-ervice training. Um what else? Uh I'm going to meet with Chris uh Bole next week to discuss and go over the AP again. Um for this year, uh to
see if any changes need to be made. Um there, like I said, there is besides that pre our pre-ervice training, they do want to do a joint training. Again, there's no date for that definitively yet. So, I'm kind of we're just kind of discussing that. But besides that, I mean, that's really pretty much it. Just
the pre-ervice training, the joint training, and that's that's pretty much it. >> Well, you also pick up all the supplies. >> Oh, um yeah. So, I I sent you a list of the supplies. >> Yes. And I believe I shared that and I can order that whenever. I mean I but
probably order stuff now. >> Yeah, just I don't know how much what the dollar value is. Is it? >> I'd have to relook at it because it's been a while. >> Make sure we have there's a Google there's a Google doc of that if I'm saying >> I think I think we have the money but just make sure we have the money. >> Yeah.
>> Um I'm trying to think what else. >> You get the supplies from the storage and you make sure to bring that down with >> Oh yeah, that would be that would probably be the week before um we start guarding. >> Yeah, >> that's um let me ask you this. Where are the stands? Are they at the beach? Are they in the back of the DPW?
>> In the back of the >> Okay. Yeah. So, at some point that will just need to be brought down. Um I'd like to be there just to, you know, set up where the stand should be. >> Also, um whoever we decide to be the bird monitors, um might have to be there when the highway department brings the
stands and set them up. >> They went down today. >> Oh, well. >> And they're going down next week to finish it. I mean, it was a lot of sand has blown up. There was a big pile of sand. Yeah, >> the bench that was put in last year is more of a foot stool at this point in time, >> but there's a lot of sand in the path.
So, Chris was called me today. Chris Gonzalez called me today >> and he's going to go down and clean it out now preliminary just get it started because they have some time to do it and it's probably going to be need done again. >> It's unclear to me then like because Mass Ottabbon mentioned that I think in
part of their end of the year report was that they should be there when big's work stuff like that is being done. But uh I know we're looking at different people to possibly use which we are going to discuss today. Maybe um >> April 1st is the the date that you know
that they say the PO pulver start showing up. So anything after April 1st he do everything before April 1st. So Chris was thinking that if he did the majority of it now, >> okay, >> come whatever day you know usually he doesn't before Memorial Day. >> Okay, that'd be great. Yeah, >> that hopefully we haven't had any big
storms to fill it all back in again. >> Perfect. And I apologize, the bird monitors, they're from >> uh >> Mass Ottabon from the past, >> but I was tasked with looking at different at least three different options, and I have that today to talk about. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> All right.
>> Uh so, we're all good. We're all good with equipment. You're going to check into that. We have a truck. >> Okay. Awesome. >> Might as well bring that up. Cool. >> Uh it's it's we're trying to get the title all straightened up because it's coming from the school department. So, Paul working on that. Great. >> It's behind the garage right now. It
does not have a bed on it. >> Okay. >> So, the option Chris said and he was willing to work with us and everything was he'll he for $3,000 they can put aluminum bed on there that >> and that means you'll have a nice flatbed. You can put the whole world on top of that thing. >> That'd be great.
>> That'd be awesome. Yeah. >> But we had another truck, but it was only a two is only a two-seater, three-seater. And I didn't think that was going to work for us. So, this one. So, he's going to start getting it welded up and get ready for the deck to be put on, the aluminum deck. It's only
got 60,000 mi on it, so we'll probably get a couple years out of it. >> Absolutely. >> Hopefully. Uh, but the school department turns it in because the heat didn't work. And I think, well, I don't think we need the heat. I don't think that's going to be a problem. >> I don't think we need that either. >> I just had a question regarding the training. Yeah.
>> Will the um joint training and the pre >> service training? >> Service training be combined? No, one day it would be two different things because our pre-ervice training would be a little different than the joint training because the joint training would pretty much be with >> it would be all hands- on deck with horse next guards, our guards. Yeah.
>> Um police department, the harbor master, the fire department. We probably um uh practice like multiple victim rescues. >> So, how many hours are you projecting that we have full lifeguards for the training? >> What So, what um what was the how long did we have last year? >> Two hours, I believe. Or maybe it was
three. >> Three, I think it was three. Yeah, we want it. >> So, that would be good for that if we can keep that the same for the pre-ervice training. And then for the joint training again, I actually >> How many lifeguards are we talking? 12. >> 12. >> 12. >> Sorry, I don't have the list in front of
me. It was 12. I think did we have >> it was 13 last year, I think, and now it's 12, >> which is fine. >> Yeah, >> because all all the guards except the one coming back, but >> we're just going to check the money just to make sure we don't. >> Absolutely. And then like I said, the other the joint training, I I really
don't know how long that would take. Actually, I I'll ask Chris about that when I meet with him next week. >> Okay. >> Because it would make sense if we could combine the two if it's only two hours rather than having the lifeguards come >> come back. Yeah. Two hours. Come back. Go back.
>> Yeah. If we did the pre-ervice training, if we could since it's mostly returning guards, do a few hours. >> That's fine. >> And then meet up with the rest. I don't know if they'd need um a location here or somewhere else or just on the beach or >> are you talking about the the joint training session? Um the joint training
session would probably be on the beach. That's what I'm guessing. >> Yeah, so that would make sense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I heard that there's going to be a sort of a Coast Guard police department, fire department drill at Spindle Rock
sometime early in May. I can go if I you know they right there. So, but I that's all that's all I know. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah. They asked and it's I mean it's a pl good place because they've got a the dock is there and they park plenty
of cars. >> So, uh but I'm not sure >> but I I I don't know what the objective is. I can imagine but I don't know whether >> oil spill drill. I think you said >> it's what? >> Oil spill drill. I think >> Oh, okay. So that's that's not something
we should get into. >> And then I had a question about the um lifeguards. We're going from 13 to 12. >> Yep. >> And did we have anybody apply? >> We did. Um but it was determined by um
uh Mikey that we probably don't need any extra guards because some of the guards that were newer last year didn't get as many hours and so now they want more hours. Um, so you were saying that you think you'd be okay with the rest
because almost everyone wants more hours. >> However, we um do have um >> like resumes and applications on file for those that were interested for this year that if something changes between now and the start of the beach season, we can contact.
>> How many applications did we do we have? >> Um, we had probably like two or three. It's not a whole lot. It's not 20. >> No, no, no, no. >> Yeah. I would think it would make sense just to have a pool if it's two or three
to say, "Hey, you know, if something happens, you're >> Yeah. It's like a waiting list. >> We need to use them, you know, for a day here, a day there. >> We're We aren't officially putting them on the payroll or as a part-time staff, but if we had to do that, we probably could."
>> Absolutely. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Uh that it. Anything else? That's it. I actually have I just a couple questions. Um so my first question is when's our start date? >> It's same as always. It's second weekend
in June. I don't remember what that date that date. >> I just want to like make sure like I have that date down. >> Whatever date that is like usually like the 12th or 13th >> 13th >> Saturday. So yeah 13th. >> So the 13th that start. >> So 13th would be the start date. >> Okay. >> As of right now.
>> Okay. And last year it was the same thing last year, right? The >> Yeah, we we usually do it was always traditionally a second weekend. Yeah. >> Because it kind of coincided with school getting out and everybody being around and that kind of thing. >> Awesome. Okay, that's great. Thank you. And then I guess my other question would
be um because I I talking before the meeting with some of the um committee members, I actually didn't put down for equipment for like uniforms. Like do you think we'll have enough money for uniforms this year? I think we have money for uniforms. >> I just want to make sure
>> we we have just a little accounting issue where we're not sure where the funds are coming out of but because I know the uniforms we still had $500 from last year and it didn't make them I don't know where the originally >> and I think we approved some money and I don't know if it's because we should be all right. Perfect. >> $500 came out of the year before budget
and then that's why we have the $500 this year. >> I possibly >> um >> I'm a little confused because >> it is confusing because the start of the new fiscal year begins in July, right? And so if if we can't get people
anything needed in June, we could get it for July. >> I think we had the money in June though. I think it's available from last year and we used the money previous year for last year. So >> I think we'll be okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I think that's the answer. >> One extra fit in case. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Would it be possible, and I I know it'll add some additional work, but um could we get like a Treasury report, you know, just something we can >> I was going to get one today and I actually forgot to tell Nicole to print it out because I I was interested to see as of right now.
>> We definitely get it. We can definitely get it in April. You know, it's out of time. What do we have in each thing? So, we make sure we allocate. >> We were pretty good up until two months ago >> for the budget. we were in pretty good shape for starting on time, hours for
training and that kind of stuff. Uh >> it would be nice if we could do it every meeting just to say this is what we have, this is what we've allocated for supplies, >> suits, >> the repair budget for the truck that we didn't touch last year.
>> Uh I need to give some of that to Chris because he's doing all the work and buying to get the truck ready. So >> true. for July >> you know even though we we built up a couple thousand dollars for next year for another >> Yeah. >> It's not till July 1 it kicks in, but
he'll figure that out. So >> that's it. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Awesome. >> All right. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. We'll skip uh M. Well, I don't know if you want to be here the whole time, Dana, or >> Oh, yeah. I got >> Okay. All right. Well, let's do minutes
then. minutes of uh the 14th which was the budget one we'd had remotely. Uh the budget was accepted. Uh the first is a typo where the line 5242 was increased to 59 supposed to be 5,000
even. >> Supposed to be a T in budget. >> Yeah. >> It's funny how when you do a spell check it doesn't because it budges the word it doesn't catch it. But >> Mhm. >> Uh but having said all that, uh >> Mr. Long
>> is that >> Mr. Long. >> Mr. Long was it? >> S Long. >> Yeah, >> Mr. Long. >> Okay. Yep. >> That's what happens when you talk late at night. >> Well, you can fill in this. >> Oh, I didn't catch that one. The budget
I can understand. generated by >> so so we're approved but I think we're going to have a discussion about having to amend our budget I think >> with the discussion of the moy mat would that be included in the discussion on the matter if the expenses
>> well we know how much moi mat we need and I'm sure you have a price >> I I forwarded uh Martin Costa's response I think to you and we can chat about it >> yeah so we'll bring that up uh oh shoot I forgot the picnic table
thing. Anyway, uh so I'll entertain a motion on the corrected minutes. >> We got a motion. >> Second, second. >> Uh motion by. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay. Uh
>> when do you want them to spray? If we're going to start on the 13th. >> What's that? When do you want them to spray? >> Probably just sometime before Memorial Day. >> Okay. >> Which is two weeks before. So that's a good time to start. >> I'll give it to his discretion.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Just make sure he has a key and all that stuff regarding some mosquitoes. Uh I'll skip into a couple of thing. uh security camera discussion because I just got the pricing this week from the
police department and this is for replacement security camera and this is the models. If everybody's interested in looking at all the specs on it, I have a couple copies here. You're more than welcome to share.
>> Where's the camera go? In the parking lot. >> Yeah. So, two of them. >> Two of them. >> One in each parking lot. And the price is $17,550 >> for both. >> For both. >> So So that's the one price for both. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> The problem with that is it does not
include >> all the wiring. >> If you notice on the first page, it says excludes. >> How many bids have people put in bids for? That's the only Well, the police department
sets this up. They have a vendor that they work through and does the whole town. I guess they do does the playground at the north end and several other locations to be unnamed in town that they watch over what's going on. >> I don't think there's a security camera at the playground at the north end.
>> There used to be. >> I don't think so anymore. >> Must have taken that one down. Yeah. There's a couple places they put them which they don't want to mention where they put them, >> right? Uh but that's is the quote >> I believe for anything over 10,000 they have to get three quotes.
>> Yeah I I can talk to uh Lieutenant Vertent. He's the one that sent me that. It was a little higher than >> than what I expected and that's why I said we might have to amend if you want to do this. >> The wiring is >> it's there. You know everything. Yeah. The power was there and everything but you still got to hire an electrician to
do it. So >> seems a lot of money. >> I don't know if it's like $5,000 or $1,000. I mean, they must have totally solar powered remote cameras. >> Yeah. I don't know how reliable they were if you don't have >> sun.
>> And you can't tie in like a Nest camera or something. Simple. >> Well, this this will be internet. >> You can watch this on the internet. You watch everything what's going on. >> I just think I have like >> 10 of those on different properties and it
>> not 17,000. But >> I know government that's too much. That's way too much. I think it's definitely needed. >> I think it is too. >> Yeah, the need is there.
>> The price just seems exorbitant. >> It may be just going price cuz it's not like something >> I don't really know, but I'm in a state of shock, shall we say. So, I don't know how we feel about that because I can boost up our budget under
an expense item to include. We have the money in our revolving account. We just either have to put it as a warrant article, >> which may be too late, or we just add it to our budget, amend our budget, $18,000 worth of get it done. If everybody
>> I'm in favor of it. I just I guess it's tough because I don't know what do we have left over. um >> in our >> core expenses like this. Um >> we don't have a lot. We don't have 18,000. >> No. Yeah, >> I can tell you that. Uh and if we do, we
wouldn't have any money for anything else. But I think you need to either just build >> too late to put it on as a warrant. >> No, you could we could probably do it as a warrant, but we could amend on town meeting floor or we could just put an amendment before it goes up and I can go back to the finance commission.
>> We wouldn't have to worry about money if we did that. or we can have them get three quotes. But I >> have what you gave us last meeting. Is this helpful to look at? >> Yeah. Is that the budget? Is that the actual budget? >> Yeah, that's what you said to us talking about the budget, I think.
>> So, we have Yeah. Equipment replacement. We have $11,500. >> Take I remember that. >> I think we I think we could use that. or at least some of it. >> And this here
>> about it about the only big number we have >> where it says uh this number here. Is that available? No, that's is that the uh >> as of November
25 >> actually this is what's available. This is what we we're grabbing out of it. >> So we have60 we could we have $160,000 available in the enterprise fund. >> Okay. So, we could take it some money
out of that and we could use some money from this right here. >> You also have the additional equipment expense 9,200. >> Where's that? >> Right below the equipment replacement. >> Additional equipment. Oh, yeah.
But now we have the $500 for clothes. So, I mean, we can certainly use >> 17. So, that's 192. So, we could certainly use that money. >> I would I would say if you talk to
Nicole, if you still have those two funds for this fiscal year, you could afford the video equipment. >> Yeah. >> Um, from what you already have in your budget because that those amounts will come back to us for the new fiscal year. >> Right. >> So, like again, if we have to buy I mean
we can use the uniform account which is just 500. If we have to go over that, usually we would go to the additional equipment or something. So, um, but like if we do have to buy equipment though before the start of the season, that's the only thing. >> Well, we have equipment though. We have,
uh, computer software, the postage thing. I don't understand. We have $2,000 in that. We could we could move that around the figures around in our expenses. We just can't move expenses personnel
>> because it looks like you still have 2,000 in the miscellaneous charges and expenses, too. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, we could do we we have the money one way or the other. We have the money. The question is from the committee, do we want to spend $17,550
>> and it's undis undisclosed yet if what how much the wiring electrician stuff will be? >> I can't imagine there's a lot to do uh because it's right there on the pole. >> Yeah. >> And the old camera is right there on the pole. So, I can't imagine it's a major >> function. Yeah.
>> Uh but I don't You could if you got one camera that sort of >> Well, they're all the uh >> 360 >> 360 ones. >> Oh, >> so you can they can spin around, look at anything. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, if you
>> It's just that you can't see from one parking lot to the other way the parking lot staged. You can't see from the parking lot on the north side to the south and vice versa. >> Mhm. >> So, >> yeah. Okay. So, um, at $25 a bathing suit for 13 bathing suit, I have 325.
That's no shirts. That's no hats >> or windbreers. >> Oh, wind breakers. >> And did we do sweatpants last year? >> Yeah, >> I think we're considerably low on clothing. >> We'll find out. Do we need all new >> I don't think we What do you think?
>> I don't think we need like new sweatpants or anything like that. I mean, shirts. uh bathing suits, um hats, uh I mean, and maybe like a windbreaker sweatshirt. I mean, I think that should be pretty. >> And >> well, I don't know what that total be
yet. >> Could we get the bathing suits and the shirts and then once the new cycle starts get the additional items? >> I would think so. >> Wind breaker and the >> whatever else there may be. >> Do you think that'd be acceptable? >> I'm sorry. Say that one more time. if we
purchased the bathing suits and the t-shirts >> um and then waited for July 1st and then ordered the additional items. >> So last year we did two um um what do you call them? What shirts
are those again? They're um >> swim shirts. >> Yeah. Um >> the swim shirts. You know the >> ultraviolet protected. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So >> that's a good idea to have. had two uh obviously cuz they're out there every day. >> Rashards.
>> Rash guards. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um so that would be a one swimsuit and two shirts then. Okay. >> So is a shirt ultraviolet protected. At least one shirt. Okay. Great. Great. >> $12.99 for a lifeguard shirt with a
visor >> on Amazon. Seems >> matching visor if you want a visor. The visor is for men's. >> What about a men's ben? What do I >> see how far off I was?
>> Such a thing as a lifeguard beating. So >> yeah. Uh here um Tyr that's that's like >> Tyr. Yeah. The official like brand for like lifeguard. Would it make sense for us to know what
we spent last year on it and then sort of replicate that? At least then we know. >> We don't know what we spent last year on it because the line item that we taken out of it wasn't taken out of. So >> you know I >> we don't know what I mean. So when I
turn in any invoices Yeah. >> Well Nicole from accounting was doing the invoices or Joanne you know before. Yeah. Yeah, >> when I started doing them, she gave me the template to use and I just I process the any receipts that come across my desk. It doesn't
>> show me on that form which line item to put it on. >> So, I'm assuming accounting just puts it >> on I I I don't know. And we can refine that form, >> but then it's either Nicole or me deciding which line items. Sometimes we
might not know. She knows better, I think, because she has the most up-to-date budgets. Yeah, I think it would make sense this year just for us to keep a running total just so we can look back next year and say, "Well, we >> prices for lifeguard shorts."
>> Red. Do we get red? >> Yeah, of course. >> Oh, they have all different colors here. I can >> No. >> So, it runs anywhere on size between $19 and $39. >> The ballpark on that, huh? I don't know why there's such a disparity, but >> probably size
>> we have is still $20 doubling doubling the cost. >> If they're that big, they're not that healthy. >> So that's the ballpark. So I think we can cover everything that we need for up to the first of the year, including salaries, which is the important part.
>> Uh >> what's the number with that? 13 for the shirts and 25 came out to 494. So, we're in the >> 500. >> I didn't think so. >> Okay. Any other >> I stand corrected.
>> So, uh >> yeah, >> we're back to security camera. Uh any movement on the security camera? Anybody want to make a motion to accept the price? Do we should we get another price? Uh should we
>> What are we looking at for a time frame? >> Well, get we need to get if it's that >> Yeah. If we're going to get the two any the if it's over $10,000, we need two more prices. >> Well, you don't have to. As professional
services, you don't necessarily have to. But we can I can ask I can ask them though. That's the people they deal with, the police department. They're the ones that are in charge of the thing. So, >> I just take their word that this is >> what it is, >> you know. >> Yeah. I don't know. I would say if the
police department is suggesting that this is the camera that we go with, they're probably >> that's the one they sent me with the pricing. >> Uh, you know, that's probably the one they want us to go with. Um, does it make sense to see what else is out there? But that this system, if you
got another camera, does it >> I don't know if they have I know they have other cameras otherwhere in town. I don't know if they're these cameras and that's why they want us to use this so as everything's consistent or I don't Yeah, you sort of integrate >> because you don't know if they're going to talk. >> Yeah. >> I'm not sure. I can ask that question.
We don't have to act on it now. We can act on it. >> Uh well, actually, we should act on it now because if we want to take it out of the enterprise fund or a Warren article, we need to get it on there. >> Yeah. So, I think what the committee can do is empower Sean to make the final decision when he has those additional
questions from the police department and and the cost of the electrical component. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. I think that >> and if that fits within your budget, your current budget. >> Yeah. >> So, we wouldn't necessarily need to go for a warning. >> No, no, that's fine. Again, if that's
the way you want to go, but we have to make a motion and do that. >> All right. Let's make a motion. We have it. We're We're prepared to do it. >> Expenses. That's the >> Well, if we run into If Michael runs into the fact that, hey, what happened to all our rescue board? Somebody walked away with them. Then we're going to be
like, >> "Yeah, >> the eightball." >> I do have a one more question. I'm sorry. We are getting the trailer again this year, right? To store the equipment. >> Oh, yeah. Getting the same things. Everything's the same. >> I just want to make sure because that was that was very >> I am a little concerned too. I don't
know exactly from your original list how much that will be now. So like that stuff we have to order. >> It's pretty cheap. >> It's like $139 a month or something stupid like that. It's really >> No, no, no. Not the that the safety equipment list.
>> Well, yeah. We need to look at that because that takes number one. If we have to wait till after July to do the camera, >> be it. >> Uh safety equipment comes first, >> right? So that might be Let's make sure we have the money for that first. Seems like we would have
>> or maybe we should go with the warrant just approve just ask. >> I mean, it's not hard. It's not hard to throw $10,000 >> on and just that way that should cover us for sure. >> I guess what do we have available? Is it this 58985?
>> No, it's like 168,000 in the enterprise fund. >> So, we would be taking $17,000 out of that amount. >> Yeah. >> Watch. So we could just take $10,000 and this I mean because I don't want to just start encumbering all kinds of expenses from previous years. It's >> Yeah, >> you know, we just have these things
hanging around. >> I I would think if the police department is saying go with this camera, it's they public safety. It's something that they >> easy safety officer and that's what he sent me. >> All right. >> So that's all I can tell you. >> But no idea. >> Yeah.
>> Don't know enough about him to tell you. >> Questioning really. H I I mean I'm not opposed to you asking >> the police department. >> I can ask. >> Uh yeah, you know, does it does it matter if we use a different camera? Is there a price difference?
>> Well, the question is, do we only get one camera and cut it does it cut it in half? I imagine it does >> because we're going to have one camera at Cherry and Web and one camera uh >> at the Well, no. One camera at Cherry and Web and one across the street at Beach. Yeah, because you can't see
between Yeah. Mhm. Yeah. >> I mean, but we right now the only we have a chairing web is >> on the main parking lot. >> Yeah. >> Which maybe that's all we need. So I'll >> hopefully >> it's up to the
>> or maybe we can do So the 17,000 is for two cameras. >> Yep. That's the pricing included >> two cameras. >> Two cameras. Two everything. >> Yeah. Well, >> the electrical on top of it. Well, we could do one camera and then do
the next camera the next year and pull them, you know. >> But I would think if we have $160,000, $17,000 isn't going to break the bank. Although it's an enormous amount of money, um if the police department saying this is what we need in order to
provide surveillance of that area, they're in charge of public safety, not us. Right. Well, between So, >> I like your idea of the 10,000 for the warrant maybe and then utilizing the other funds that you still have. Is that what you're saying?
>> Yeah. Just just to make sure because I don't want to short >> safety equipment for the sake of a camera. >> And between now and like like next week, I can get a better idea of the safety equipment and and uniform numbers. >> That's fine.
>> So, >> so do you need a motion? >> We need a motion. some kind of motion on the camera >> that we will go to >> with the two with this price and vendor and >> and go to >> and 17,550
and go to the town meeting and ask for $10,000. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> That's my motion. >> Okay. A motion by Leon for 17550
>> and 10K at at town meeting. >> Okay. Second. >> Second from Woody. All in favor? >> I >> I Okay. All right. That case takes care of that. Uh town clerk report. We don't have a
town clerk report. I think everything is going okay. Anybody have their beach sticker? Uh, >> no. >> Uh, so the last two items on here may or may not. Uh, one is the incentive bonus
discussion. >> I did um I put something together after the last meeting in January just cuz um I was thinking about it. >> They get any suggestions. Yeah, I've been thinking about >> and uh and it's $300, correct?
>> I believe so. I can give you these, but this gives a breakdown of uh what um the state is doing in Rhode Island and at DCR down the road uh in terms of their incentive and their bonus on the
second page. So, it seems like they're getting a total of they get $500 for an early hire um a retention bonus of $750 if they stay through Labor Day. So, $1250. that's the state. They have more money
than us. So, I think that's, you know, understood. And other municipalities aren't doing anything. >> Um, so we're really competing against horsen um in terms of keeping our lifeguards. It seems like our lifeguards are happy um working here and they're
going to be getting more hours. So, um, as long as everybody's comfortable with the 300, I think it's, >> which reminds me, and it's not this life's fault. Labor Day is very late this year, the 7th. Is that going to be a problem for anybody returning to school for that whole week before? It's
probably when they go back to school. Oh, I'm sorry. >> I don't think I personally don't think so. Um, I'm going to have to reach out to the guys and ask about that, but I really don't think so. I because I know school's going to start the week before and then it's going to be like, you know, there's going to be we had this
problem a couple years ago. We had literally had three guards >> on the beach because everybody was gone. >> Yeah. >> I think for the uh bonus structure, I thought about that. Um and if it's $300, a full-time guard is 32 hours. Is that
correct? >> Um >> is it only 32 for a full time? Oh, okay. >> Um and how many weeks? 13 weeks. So that came to 416 total hours. Um a part-time guard, they're going to work
less than 32 hours. Um so let's say they work 24 hours during that 13 um week period. Um you would just calculate the totals. So basically if you had 32 hours per week, you multiply
that by 13 weeks and you come to the 416 total hours. Um, for a part-time guard, 24 hours, just using that as a number. For 13 weeks, it would be 24 hours a week times 13 weeks equals 312 total
hours work. So then you would just do simple math. 312 divided by 416, 75% of a full season. So 75, it would make sense that they would receive 75% of the bonus. you know, if
>> they only worked 75% of the season. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> And you would obviously, you know, depending on what they worked, you could it may be much less or it might be, you know, closer to the the 32 hours, but I don't know how else. Um, >> do you have a copy possibly to share
with the mic? >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, >> I have another one here too for Dana. >> I just want to make sure I have the same one, too. Yeah, I think I do. >> Actually, no. Can I do? >> Yeah, I have one. Yeah. Yeah. >> Sorry. >> Oh, no. Nope. All good.
>> Thank you. >> So, I don't know. I would I That's just I was just kind of trying to wrap my arms around it. Uh it seems like $300 is um considering other municipalities aren't doing anything. Um we're
competing with the state. Um but >> we have a challenging beach. How many Yeah. How many guards do we have? >> 12. So, it's $400 bonus >> 400 or 300.
>> We have $5,600 in our incentive item. >> Yeah. >> So, if you divide that by 12 >> that would be 400 >> $475. >> Yeah. >> So, four is $400 would be the incentive.
So >> we'll use I think we should drop that formula and use the $400 incentive >> and just not just 400 like every >> like right even if >> no use that formula for you know if you only work >> so rather part time you only get half
the incentive. >> Mhm. >> So you're upping the overall incentive but keeping the formula based on the number of hours worked. >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> What do you think? >> Okay. >> Because I was thinking because the of getting reertified. >> I think we bumped I think we bumped it
up. I think we bumped it up. >> 400 to get sir. That's fair. >> Definitely. >> No. >> Do you understand though the formula he used? >> You work 75% a fulltime um hourly base. You get 75% of the >> And there might be a better way to do
it. I just I a great way to do it. Um I do >> and then we have to decide what do we do if you know what if lifeguards aren't going to work to Labor Day. Um do they forfeit that bonus? Um or is there another
>> said something about >> you know are they penalized for leaving early? >> I I would >> you don't penalize >> I would like your opinion but I would think we'd be a little flexible if Labor Day is later in September this year. But what do you think? So, I think like I agree with what you're saying because
it's a little later. I kind of understand that. But I do like what you're saying, Perry, with this like you kind of >> you get what you put in. So, if you're working 75% of the season, but you don't want to work the other quarter of the season, you only get 75%. I think that makes that sense. >> And then if you work to a certain time,
like we would have to come up with like what the actual like say >> you have 416 gear. If you I mean say if you work to like a certain either a certain day or you worked a total of 400 hours that would equate to work to like September 1st or something like that
then you get the 100%. >> Because I would imagine a lot of the college students are going to have to return to school. >> Yeah. I think it's it's going to be tough because I think that last week you might want to really check on that because I don't want >> that's the only thing I would really want I want I would like to check to see. >> Well that that's all over the place. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It depends on what
school you go to. >> Everyone's different. >> Well, usually into August, huh? So, I'm going to make a motion to base the incentive on the 416 hours as a full quote unquote term of lifeguard >> and hours worked will be the percentage
of times the bonus then will be the sense of bonus >> of $400 >> of yeah $400. Sorry. >> Do I have a second? >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Perfect. That was easier,
>> Harry. Um, would you mind adjusting this to what changes and resend it to me and I'll make sure it's on file when I do the payroll? >> Absolutely. >> So, originally we had 5600 because we figured 14 >> was 13 lifeguards in Mike. So, that was >> so uh
>> and that puts us a little more in line. I mean, I know it's not comparable to the state, but I mean >> it is to Rhode Island. My thing was if it was just going to cover the reertification, which it would absolutely cover it because it's going around $400. >> That's fair. That is really
>> Yeah, we bump we bumped it up, I think, for that reason. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. Uh, >> thank you for your work on that, Perry. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> And I I don't I mean, there may be a better way. >> We'll give you a raise in pay. >> Thank you. >> Uh, so the last thing is left is Dana.
So, we'll let Dana roll now. >> Um, so, uh, I've had one email that I forward you, Sean, by printed out for your reference. Um, >> which email was that? >> It is, um, was sent on March 15th. Um,
here, I'll just send it. The highlighted portion is what she just sent, but she sent the thread that was sent last year where you approved a beach parking pass, I think, for her mother who doesn't own a car, but >> Oh, yeah. Something like that. >> Yeah, I saw this one. Okay, so uh let's
take action on this right now. Uh it got sent to Paula, right? So, this is the same woman who takes her mother, she lives on River Road. She takes her mother to the beach. Mother doesn't drive. She wants a beach pass. She want discussion. >> What is she?
>> No. >> Her mother Her mother's a resident in town, but she doesn't drive. But she takes her mother to the beach. So, >> and she's not >> Is it the daughter? >> The daughter resident. >> Yeah. >> Does the mother have a vehicle >> or no? >> I don't know that
>> because we could she would have to drive her mother's vehicle to >> do. >> It's not fair. >> Yeah. >> It's just my family and I. So I'm assuming not it would be her car. >> I guess what have we done in the past when
>> you've given it to him? >> Yeah. >> There's like a half a dozen of these past this make it simple and do it. >> I would make Well, I would make the motion that we declare a hardship. >> Yeah. Yeah. A finding >> like that word. >> Yeah.
Yeah. >> We believe there are no pre there are no precedents. So, who's making the motion? >> I I I made I made the motion contingent on hardship. >> I'll second. >> I'm going to get her name wrong. >> Inson
and I'll forward a email to the town clerk so she knows it's coming. So you'll tell town clerk. >> Yeah, I'll send an email to I I tell and sometimes I forget, but I tell Chris every time we take a vote on these things that she gets or she has a question on, she'll get an email
officially. So, uh, motion and seconded to grant Nina Henson a one beach pass to take her mother to the beach under hardship. >> All in favor? I >> All right. Uh, go ahead.
>> And then the second call I got was from a gentleman who wants to have a wedding at the Neville Beach. And I said, I am not sure what the beach committee's policy is on that, but I said or the what the town policy is. I said, but if you send me an email with all the
details of your request, I will forward it to the beach committee meeting. I have not yet seen an email. >> Okay? Because the issue is if it's on 4th of July, we hear and then 1:00 in the afternoon is probably not a good idea. But it we need to know number of cars. Number of cars if they're
residents or >> if they had to park their cars somewhere and bring in a bus. >> Well, that's a possibility, too. But if they're all res if it's if it's out of season, uh then anybody can park at Elephant Rock, >> right? But I mean I imagine Did they say
date? Do we have a date? I said, "Send me an email with all the details." And I never >> The issue would be, you know, if it's an evening wedding, it's probably easier than if it's during the day on a weekend. Imagine it's on a weekend. >> Uh, but we need to know number of cars, number of people, number all that other
good stuff. >> Yeah. So, I just want to let you know I received that call, but I've not yet gotten >> Didn't we start drafting a permit thing to send to people so they could fill it out so we'd have all this information? >> Did I do that? >> Didn't you do that? >> No. Okay. You didn't
>> I think that was for the yoga or workout. >> So, the landing commission has a uh application for use of the land like property. Um that is found on the website, the town website. You can look
at it. Um I actually was was >> talking with someone about this today. Um, so the landing commission I think h is there something in the bylaws where they have the ability to do something like this? >> Yeah, they do. They have we they have
strict control over the landings themselves. It's not the selectman. The selectman are actually the >> overseers of the town other town properties which includes >> but but it's but it's either going to be on on federal property or on land trust property.
Well, um, it specifically there applications for landing property owned by the town. >> I believe >> there's not a lot. >> Oh, no. But she's talking about the >> one tiny little beach. >> So, basically the one event I know about is the river day event that the
watershed does at the head. >> What? He's talking about the noble though. >> Oh, right. So, there's no, from my knowledge, um, policy form or procedure for events on the beaches. >> Yeah, we've talked about that a couple of times now. I'd be willing to look into other municipalities and see what
they do and come back next month. >> Sure. The uh the DCR has a fill them out before the DCR has when they use permits for parks. >> Sure. >> They, you know, ask all the there's a questionnaire right online you fill out and submit electronically. So, this is something I've spoken with the new town
administrator about too because it's come up in my department where, you know, I've received interest from community members of using town property or wanting to reserve it for events such as behind the annex or we're in the process of revitalizing the bsentennial
park um north of town. So, you know, there are different open recreation spaces that the community likes to use, but it's a matter of like using it casually versus holding an event there and the policies that need to be put in place and approved by the select board
or appropriate department, >> right? Because the land trust walks the beach every year. The watershed walks the beach every year. >> They have the dune walks they call them and all that stuff. So, we should have a form that just gets filled out so we have at least have all the information
>> and then we can make the recommendation based on that. With weddings, it's always tricky because you never know if there's going to be 200 people there or two people. >> Well, al alcohol. >> Yeah. No alcohol allowed. >> Yeah. No alcohol allowed. So, on town property, no alcohol, no smoking. So, uh
>> Yeah. So, we need to come up with a form, but if it gets back to you, I guess we can make a decision as when we had the actual information to >> Right. Um coming up with a form though could be a little intensive just because we would have to do that research about maybe what other beaches or towns do and
we might have to also get permission through the select board and you know >> I'll just >> well the select more the only have to issue the permission we just make a recommendation say yeah it's a great idea have a >> what right >> I would think we look at the state see what they're doing and then see what other
>> the DCR DCR whenever you have an event there because I've sold them out before has a very simple form of you know how many people what are you doing are you serving food they're out >> do they charge you know >> they do they charge >> they used to charge a nominal fee like $25 to process the form
>> uh but that was based on it's based on certain things like the number of people and all this other stuff uh you know if you're having uh I don't know what you would have down there fishing tournament let's say a for-profit fishing tournament >> they call you and they ask for insurance and they ask you for all kinds of things
>> you run into issues is if they're raising money and then liability if somebody wants get hurt >> whenever whenever it's like a >> parking right >> right >> uh but outside of that I mean we want people to use the parks use the beaches I would think >> right
>> especially if they're town residents I don't have a problem especially if they're town residents the people are getting married on the beach because usually >> 99% of the time they're evening ones and there's not a problem with parking or any of the other things that usually go along but usually there's some people who aren't don't have stickers so we have to know that
>> it's also a matter of like um making sure that the processes are similar, you know, for any outdoor space. Um >> I don't know, in my mind that only makes sense, but >> I agree. >> Because why should >> different departments do it differently.
Um but that's all being worked on, I think, or it's been discussed, but >> um the work has to be done to put things >> Well, the policies the policies should all be the same. No alcohol, no smoking, blah blah blah blah blah. Well, like you were saying like maximum number of
people um police detail depending on that like you know different things. >> That's what the DCR has all this on their form. I can download >> I mean it's nice that they requested it but let's just say for like um >> you know what would happen if a a a
small bus showed up and 30 people got out during a beach day, walked down the beach >> and got married >> and got married. How would you stop them from doing that? Yeah. >> You know, and what you know what I mean, who are they harming, >> you know? I mean, if the bus is taking
up >> bar DCR, if it's not an organized event, >> planned event, you >> there's nothing they can do. >> We just happen to get married, you know. >> Having driven many 24 passenger limos to the beach, it's about 1 hour and a half.
I would make sure I put a time in too >> so that it's not lingering. Well, the thing is at 8:00 if they're not out of they're going to stay there all night. So, >> if they I'm talking about for their parking coming in that's more or less >> it's usually usually they're not having
the reception down there. It's usually a quick ceremony on the beach and then you know the gathers they have the ceremony and everybody takes a couple pictures. >> It's yeah pictures there too. >> I've seen I don't know how many over the years. >> I got right to the side there. Uh
>> I the number of people I've seen married a >> very busy beach day. >> Well, they were going to have a wedding at the uh Charlton Dock and these people uh it's going to be like this coming
September and about August they they panicked. >> Yeah. >> I mean they just had a fit. We need an answer tomorrow. >> Yeah. And so we all got together and and they asked me,"Well, what is the capacity of the wararf?"
And so I did a so I did a calculation, you know, I got out the graphic standards book, you know, how many people, you know, if you seated in rows, can you fit per square foot or how many square foot each chair takes? And and I figured out that they were asking
for like 200 people. And I figured the capacity of the warf was like 500 >> seats. So it's not even going to be close. >> It's It's all Yeah. But it's always about parking. It's always about the parking issues. That's it's always
>> you know, like I said, I've seen I don't know how many times I >> in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, well, these people they they bought a house next Well, anyway, they've got a property they can park on. >> Oh, so >> they got pocket. So yeah. >> Okay. So that's not a problem. Next.
>> Okay. Um the last thing I have is about the bird monitoring. Um so um we got two quotes. Um and actually so I talked on the phone with someone um for a third
and they stated that they would be more than mass autumn and so he wasn't going to bother write up a quote officially but um he did tell me that they would be expensive. So the two quotes um one from Mass Audabon who we used last year and
we have their proposed contract here um would be 12,600. So comparably last summer we it was 12,000. Um, and then our second proposal that we got was from Lloyd Center of the
Environment and they're >> I just want to make sure to say the right figure here. Hold on. >> Um, their amount proposal was $9,86. >> Oh, that's better. >> Yeah. >> No, we we have to pay that.
>> Yes. >> To protect >> the biking pus >> endangered species. We've been we've been >> we understand they're endangered. It's >> it's Massachusetts law. >> Do we are we do we have apples and apples for a scope of work?
>> Um so I leave that up to the committee to review and let me know because I'm not an expert at this. >> No, it's real simple. Basically, as long as they're installing the nesting and monitoring on a regular basis. >> Well, just say that meets the requirements of the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts. M >> I was told um by um someone that I believe they oversee Baker's Beach and I believe they oversee um some beaches for Dartmouth. >> I I'm not certain which ones, but um
>> there's only one town beach in Dartmouth. >> Yeah. So I don't >> Is that part of one of these two? Uh >> the Lloyd Center the Lloyd Center does that. You're the cheaper of the two. The Lloyd Center was referred uh to me um through um uh one of the select board
members just to contact the Lloyd and I did and was given this um and both of these were forwarded to Sean. Yeah. Um, and then I also contacted the department of uh, wildlife and fisheries >> and she gave me a list of people to
contact and the top two were Audabon and Lloyd >> and then the last three were private companies which I reached out to. Um, one got back to me and told me the amount would be more than mass Audabon because they're a private company. >> Yeah. So, >> the other two didn't get back to me. I
think the other one, one of them actually did reach out to me through email this week and ask a ton of questions which I didn't know the answer to. So I'm like I don't know. >> We should probably had Yeah, probably should for that. >> We have the birds and do they enforce when we
>> if something was to happen who's the >> So they did communicate with the headguard and the guards last season. Do you want to let them know like what they did and when they went out there? Well, um, so when we had basically our meeting, they basically kind of just told us that we needed like a spotter
and we it was kind of like a training. It was like a half an hour. >> Sure. >> And they just told us what um basically what the protocol is to um >> safely be around. >> Yeah. >> During their nesting nesting area,
>> a spotter for the truck. >> A spot for the truck and spotter for the gator. >> So if you're driving, >> if you're driving down the beach, you got to have somebody in front of it. and trying to think >> seaweed. You couldn't break the seaweed into the birds. >> How to spot uh a nest, how to spot
clovers, uh what to do if you see like a dead clover, what things like that. >> Who comes down? Who's the enforcement arm of things though? >> Mass Audabon. They hire staff to do that work. >> That's the EPS, the environmental police. >> So the environmental police would their crews around
>> especially early in the season, they're around quite often. Mhm. >> It's stated in the Mass Audabon contract. Um the base fee for the services set forth in exhibit 8 to this agreement is $12,600. This assumes time on the site for a qualified monitor
build at the rate of $55 an hour to complete monitoring and protection requirements. Um which is also the hourly cost for additional monitoring needs that may arise. This also includes mileage reimbursement. Um and then
Let's see. >> It's got to be very similar, you know. It is um a little >> cheaper. >> We're fairly fortunate. We only had one one year. >> The the So, for the Lloyd Center, the project leader is $28 an hour. The field
intern is $18 an hour. >> And the other one is $55 an hour. >> Yeah. They cover overhead and stuff. more ranks than the >> so >> I would recommend to the committee we go with the Lloyd center this year since they're cheaper
>> a motion >> that make a motion >> the Lloyd center >> second it >> all in favor >> I >> I >> abstain you abstaining >> I don't you said I
>> no not pipe in >> 4 zero Oh, abstain. >> Okay. >> And then I'm happy to follow up and notify the two or Sean, did you want to do that? >> Uh, well, we can't sign the contract.
So, we're going to recommend that the selectman, i.e. town manager, >> okay, >> sign the contract. So, that's what basically the motion is. We recommend the Lloyd Center. >> Um, the only problem with that is, uh, I think it might be too late to put it on their next meeting, which is Monday the
23rd. They're not going to >> They start in April. >> So they they have two week. Yeah. Not I don't think it's a problem. >> Okay. >> Two weeks till April anyway. So they'll have a meeting before April 1st. >> No, but um there the selectmen meet on
March 23rd, Monday, and they don't meet again till April 6th. We have uh things that came up 48 hours claws and in >> um I can either myself or you can check with Chris Vitali.
Paul is out until Monday. >> If you would just call him in the morning just to see if Okay. >> because I'll forget and then I'll we'll definitely be >> I don't think it's a big deal. >> We would just have to forward the I think the contract to them >> to the select board if their reference, right? Okay. And do you want
>> We're making Yeah. Well, I Well, I thought Chris had a He didn't send an email about it today. He I think he saw one today from him. Did you see the >> Oh, sorry. Yes, I did bring that. He said, "As long as you requested three written quotes, I did request one
technically in my conversation, but he said >> right. >> It's going to be more I can tell you right now. So, um you can move forward with the Lloyd Center, the cheapest option, whenever you're ready. I will just need to sign off on the PO and completed W9. So maybe this is something >> maybe the selectman don't have to vote
on it. Maybe we just recommend Okay. >> Well, it's Lloyd center. It's obvious. So >> I'll talk to him tomorrow. Yeah. And see if um he can just approve it. >> That works. >> Okay. >> Anything else? >> Um
picnic table info. >> I have it on my computer, too, and I was going to forward to you and I completely forgot, but I'll get it to you. >> And then I'll just make sure because you wanted that to come out of additional equipment. >> Yes. So now that might affect things with >> it's going to be about 900 bucks and it cost like 400 to ship it.
>> Oh. >> So if you wanted to wait for that until July, we could >> see. >> It's a concrete picnic table, handicap picnic table. So like the ones that are on Baby Beach, it's $900 >> because it weighs a a slight >> $400 to ship it.
>> Yeah. >> Or it might be a little bit more or less depend now with gas and everything. I don't know. It might be a little bit more. >> What about the place next to Richie? Maybe they could pull one. >> Where do you get it from? Is it >> uh It's called uh patio Florida Pario furniture or something.
And they and you can get >> So it's coming from Florida. >> Someone has to match the color. I'm color blind so I can't do that. So we can you can get like 27,000 colors, you know. It's pebble finish. It's the same thing that's there. The one that's there is >> company in the world that makes this.
>> No. Well, it's the closest one and it's made in the USA. Yeah. There's like things in California you can, you know, and it's like that would shipping would be >> All right. All right. I got it. >> So would you recommend then we get that in July, the new fiscal year then?
>> Yeah, we can do that. >> Okay. So if you just get me the info, I can at least >> I'll forward it to you tomorrow morning when I get to it. >> Okay. And then the MOI mats. Um >> Okay. Yeah. So, I I consulted I got the measurements from you and I consulted with Martin Costa on the disability
commission about his thoughts about it. Um I sent you the email and I'm forgetting his exact words, but he thought that it would be challenging. Um especially with the weather and the sand. >> Well, the the issue isn't necessarily handicapped people, but people just have
a difficult time. But I figured this 350 ft >> from the port John to >> I'll say the >> the hard spot right next to the chair, whatever we want to call that, the end of the path, whatever it is. And the price on it was uh
>> 15 I think you said 15,000. >> Yeah. >> And he also mentioned the sand. I don't know if it's outside of the scope of what the lifeguards do, but could they each morning like >> some days are going to be worse than others. You may show up on a morning and
the thing could be buried. >> Yeah. I mean, they're going to >> Well, I question how I mean there there is >> some sort of paving on most of the path. >> Well, it's hard. It's gravel. It's hardened gravel, >> but it's pretty hard. >> But what happens is between people walking back up the beach, they track
sand with them and then the wind and everything, there's like three or four inches. If they track sand on the path, >> they're going to track sand on the mats, >> right? >> So, so if you put a mat on the hard if you get the hard surface or gravel swept
off. >> Yeah. Uh and put the mo What's the point in putting the moy mat over it? >> I think he's talking from that area of the portagon where it's hard to hard stuff. But but the hard >> Yeah. Yeah. It
>> But I think that hard gravel goes out pretty far. >> The hard gravel goes all the way back. There's one little dip in the middle for some reason, but >> there's a lot of them. >> It depends on how much sand blows in and various other factors, but >> but again, I if you got to sweep off >> the concern is there are
>> Yeah, you're going to have to sweep off the moy map. >> Yeah. The resident there are certain residents who want it >> not necessarily handicap. >> Yeah. >> I I mean I think I think it would cost it's a lot of money. >> Yeah. For the cost and the use.
>> Uh I'm not sure. And and one of the things that kind of bothers me is like we're lucky to we have >> access to >> sand on our beach basically. Uh and I don't know how we take care of having sand on the beach. >> Yeah. >> The whole point is to try to get to like
at low tide you get down to the water where you can walk easily. There are people who are >> I would think just getting sand, >> you know, like may I guess you got to determine whether or not it's for handicap purposes or is it just to make
life a little easier for everybody going down to the beach? >> I've had a discussion with Martin. It's like, yeah, you get down to the beach, but then what do you do if you're handicapped? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Cuz it's like you got to go right, left, and it's soft sand in either direction. >> I think they would can't run a half mile of Moby Mats down the beach.
>> Yeah. But I think even bringing it from the port of John to the entrance to the beach is going to provide a benefit to everybody. >> I agree because you can't you can't go I see moms going through and they're like uh it's like >> pulling their cars. >> Yeah. The end of the world but it's a
lot of money but if we have the money I'd rather see it >> no it'd be a good idea. I just don't know how functionality how well >> they have them work at a lot of beaches too. They travel >> they travel. >> I know Gooseberry has them uh for the
handicapped from the parking lot down to the beach >> and by the middle of summer it's buries. >> Is it for uh I mean if we put one in is it um for handicap purposes or is it just to make it easier to access the beach for everyone? >> Well, it's both.
>> Yeah. >> Both Yeah. Yeah. the the issue we had and I had this conversation with Martin and Lisa >> is you get down to the once you're down to the beach what do you do >> you know it's like you're handicapped you're kind of like >> it's going to be tough getting down the uh
>> well that's the biggest problem going up that hill the first one up and down the hill >> that I mean that's hard packed so it's not a sand issue >> no handicappedness is a spectrum >> maybe during the joint meeting you can see if the harbor master can take him in from the water There you go. Yeah.
>> Um I found the email from Martin and um one of the other things he brings up is if the if say the sand covers the MOI mats 6 in or more, would the highway department need to then come in and remove the sand off the MOI mats? And that could be challenging because the
front end loader could tear the moi mats. >> Oh, there's no doubt you couldn't do that. It would have to be something where you have to keep on it every day >> because because all it takes is one storm and that thing's going to be buried, >> right? He did say MOi mats are expensive. 100 feet length costs 5,000. So your 300 foot length would cost
15,000 on average. >> But I think if we're going to spend money, I mean, I know we have other expenses, but I would say hearing from people who go to the beach, that's one of the biggest concerns that people have that they can't get that last. I would
say that hundred that hundred is the the really the >> it's really not too bad from the reporter, John. But if you have >> I never have a problem and >> there's a 100 foot section at the end where it gets real soft. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And if the lifeguards were willing to to
you know remove the sand every day then it doesn't really become a problem. >> Buy you a broom and you can >> solid leaf blower in a bunny suit. >> Well yeah you can't be blowing but >> the leaf blower. >> Well you can't be running a leaf blower though with the birds and everything. Do they have to be like
>> I think they staked in they pin them. >> Is that possible in that area? >> Yeah, it's possible. I mean, it's possible. The the issue, like I said, you may have is is you can get covered with sand fairly quickly. >> Yeah. >> Could we consider just doing the 100 ft, you know, uh which would at least
alleviate some of the problem. Would that make sense? >> I don't know. Well, then either way, if we're going to spend 5,000 or 15, we still have to get money somewhere. So that would mean additional funds going back for additional funds. >> I'd rather see the match than the pipe
and poval money. >> Yeah. >> So I guess if we don't have the money, it's kind of a non-issue unless we want to go ask for more money. Um but I still can't make sense of the what we have available to >> know whether or not we have enough
>> Well, I have a question. Does the disability commission have any money? >> Not really. >> Uhuh. get some. >> Well, they've been looking actually for sponsors. >> Get a grant. Get a sponsor. >> Well, they're trying to get sponsors. They Lisa is pretty energetic in that
way. I had a conversation with Lisa and you know, the issue is, you know, it's every year and it's putting them down and picking them up and storing them >> at the end of the year. They'd pull it up. >> Well, they do it at the point. >> He does it for the other beaches where they're at.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Chris does it. >> They do it at the point. >> Perfect. But you got to start somewhere. If you don't start then you >> I'll entertain a motion from anybody here. >> I would make a motion. >> I make a motion that we um purchase 300
ft of >> But wouldn't we want >> to determine how much money we have available to us prior to making that decision? Um you know because it's tough >> if this is the third priority if we're doing
>> we're doing the these >> equipment. Yeah. What about the fence? >> The videos done. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> the videos. >> Video, >> the video camera and the MOI map. >> We need a warrant >> and the 3,000 for the truck bed, but
that >> we have a,000 this year that Chris, we're in the work and we have 5,000 next year. We built it in because we knew the truck would be available. I didn't think it was going to cost 3,000. >> Well, you had the capital improvement um was approved too, right? But out of the beach budget. >> Yes. So that's what I mean. Every time
that everybody goes, "Why don't you go to capital improvement?" Because it's not like we're getting it from another location. So why don't we just put it in our budget? >> Uh it's Yeah. I mean, we can add on basically these these figures. So it'll
be 15 10 is what we're adding on right now. >> Mhm. >> 25,000. Keeping it in mind. But the the 15,000 was just a estimate from Martin. >> I don't know once we look into actually purchasing that that price will go up.
>> I think it would make sense for us to go down and I I know we're all busy, but maybe I could go down and measure it to see how you did. Yeah. So >> last year when the Porter John was there, I dragged the tape down the beach. >> Would you say 350 or 300? >> 350 ft. >> And I say 350 ft.
>> So would that um >> depending on where you put the board at? 10 feet. >> Yeah. >> The Moby Mats might only come in 100 foot. >> Yeah. I don't >> think that's fine, too. You know, then then 300 is >> Right. >> Yeah. I mean, we I think we should look
into it. We still have time. >> Well, we can put 15 We can put the money into or ask for the money, I should say. Ask for the money. Put it on. If we don't use it, it's there for next year. >> Put it on a warrant. >> If it's a warrant article, it's there
forever. If it's a budget item, just adding budget, it's there. We can roll it over till next year, >> right? >> You know, it's not going to go away. We're not going to lose it, >> right? It's whatever the price is today, it's going to go up before, >> right, >> June. That's for sure. Everything else is going up.
>> Yeah. >> You know, so you can be guaranteed of that. >> So, >> I'll second your motion. >> His motion was 300 ft plus upput more or less >> up to 350. Let's go. Go four. >> You want to go four? >> No.
>> 350. Okay. 350. >> This is a start, you know. I mean, and it's not going to be perfect, but if you do nothing, then nothing gets done. >> So, >> one other question. Uh, obviously the vehicles, the gator and the truck will have to be going over the match. Does that damage them?
>> No, you can you can avoid them. Okay. >> If we put it on one side or down the middle, I think you can avoid them. >> Okay. >> Depending. I think they really need to go on one side, which would be the east side. If you look at what's happening to the beach dunes down there, it's getting eroded on the east side and
the dunes on the west side are spilling over into the road. And you can see there's where the gravel road is and where the east side is now there's three or four feet of just all fand >> and that's the highway department is going to fill some of that in and
reclaim some of the west side. Uh it does get a little narrow at that spot though where that big dune is. Uh I I you can drive over them. >> Okay. >> As long as you're not driving 100 miles an hour. So I don't think it's a problem. >> Would it make sense for us to come back the next meeting and and have an actual
dollar amount of what we have available? >> I think we have to act pretty quickly as far as getting on town meeting. So I don't like I said, we can put it on town meeting. >> Yeah. >> And if we don't use it, it's there next year. Or if we do use it, we it's there. >> Okay. Yeah. >> I just don't want to >> Sure. >> If we don't do anything, it's not
available. We can't do anything. I don't think you'll have any problem getting the math money out of a town. This >> it's out of our enterprise funds. So, >> it's coming from us. >> It's not costing it doesn't cost all our money comes in from each pass keeping in mind. >> So, we're just taking it from one pot
and moving it over to another which >> we got a lot in that pot. We've been moving that money all night. Well, >> just so you know, >> we have, you know, $16,000 plus or minus that comes out every year for the enterprise fund.
>> Yeah. >> It'll be interesting to see because we raised the beach passes this year, what the revenue is for this year. >> Yeah. >> Because we were only at 160 for all of last year. >> Yeah. >> And our budget is 1645
>> plus 16 is 180. >> Yeah. So we've been chewing into our little reserve fund and that reserve fund is not going to be available forever. So keep it in mind. It's nice to spend but then you know you may have a crisis where safety equipment which I always >> we will have a crisis at some point.
>> Yeah nature of money truck we have the gator. I mean the other I mean what it would be boards >> or a reel or something along those lines. So, um I we need six uh pairs of
fins and goggles because for deep um water actually because we don't have any fins or goggles >> and we don't have any reels, right? We we haven't had reels in two years. >> We do have a reel actually, but um I >> reel for the torpedo. >> So, this is what I have for the equipment. six fins and goggles, 10
torque leashes, um three pairs of binoculars, three heavy duty toes to keep our uh like a oxygen tank in, and then an ocean kayak uh back rest because that's really dilapidated. And besides that, really, um that's pretty much it.
I mean, >> well, we need a dollar figure. >> Yeah, I'll get that to you next week. We do have a dollar for you actually in the I have a dollar for you in um a document I have. Let me just see >> that may have changed though with prices going up.
>> We internally keep track of at least what we're spending this year on the lifeguard equipment then >> the accounting department is supposed to do that. >> I know but >> we're going to be better. We're going to be better this year. So >> we're going to be better this year. >> Yeah. I mean, >> but that's not us who like right because
Dana is saying she gives the requests into the >> I process the receipts to the county department and the caring department puts is supposed to put it on the appropriate line item. >> Now, that's because of the form they gave me doesn't have space to put a line item there, I don't think, or didn't
have it attached to the different receipts or and invoices we typically get. >> Yeah. I mean, I can I can look at the form with them and and allocate the different line items to that form. >> Um, maybe that'll help. Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, I mean, I just want to make sure everybody keeps in mind that even though we have this nice little >> reserve fund, >> Yeah. >> it's getting chipped away very quickly. So, it would be 17,000 plus 20,000
uh for 400 ft of mat, right? >> I think you got to end before you spend any more money. >> Yeah. 37. >> I I just get a little nervous here because like I said, if we have a crisis, then we're we're in trouble. >> Yeah. >> Because we I don't we can't really go back. We did last year because we had a
little small crisis, but still >> we have a major crisis, we're in trouble. >> Yeah. then truck catches fire on the beach, >> we're in trouble. Not that, you know, it's going to do that, but I'm just saying, you know, on the first week, you know, it gets down there and it blows up, it we're in trouble.
>> Don't let that happen. >> Yeah. I'm just I'm very conservative when it comes to these things and safety equipment to me >> trumps everything else. >> We should just continue the mats. See what >> You need the mats. We need a more accurate
>> see what's >> we need we need a dollar figure on the mats but I think we need just to get on town meetings in May >> see what's >> here we are in March we're a month and a half away from town meeting we have to get on we have to put it there >> we need to be on that we need to be >> so we can put the $25,000 that we're
>> to make sure we don't run out of >> so so you can probably move or on a motion about the mats at 15,000 >> um based on the figures that we come up could be adjusted accordingly. Like I
mean you could >> we need a better figure but we can just throw out 15,000 right now and if we can only buy 300 ft of Matt then we buy 300 ft of Matt. >> Yeah. >> It's only 200 feet. >> Yeah. >> It's 200 feet >> and we'll wait till next year. >> Right. And just keep building on it.
>> But >> but again I cautious about the amount of money that we're spending >> and that money is coming out of this number right >> 168. So, we have $168,000 >> give or take. >> And we're we would be spending 17 plus
uh 15. >> Yeah. >> Uh plus whatever it costs. >> No, you're actually out of the enterprise. Um you're just requesting the 10,000 >> and the 15. So 25. >> So 25. That's not in this budget. >> Okay.
>> We chewed up a lot with the fence and buying the piece of beach last year. It's in our budget just in a different pot. >> Well, we have to the only way we can spend out the enterprise fund is to go to town. Sure. You can't just into it. >> So, we have to put we have to have it approved at
>> tell me. >> I think >> either as a budget item or a warrant article. >> Anything beyond the set budget. >> I always like the budget item because we more flexibility if we put it under a capital expense. If we have a warrant article, we can only spend it on that.
If we have a $15,000 for Moby Mat, that's all we can spend it on. >> If it cost us 12 and we have $3,000, we got to buy more Moby Mats for no reason or something. >> So, I always like I always like the capital expense. >> It's a very long path. I mean, I would I would be in favor of actually keep
adding to them. I mean, you go to a a lot of beaches in this country, they have walkways, you know, pressuretreated walkways or moy mats. There's no place, not many places. >> I think the issue is that hill you >> Oh, yeah. There's no question about it.
>> Well, it's the hill and the storm. >> You need a rope toe, Perry. >> Yeah. Yeah. She lift. >> Uh I would second the motion um
to I guess go to the town for the 50. >> Well, the motion is to buy 350 ft of Moby Mat. Okay. which we go to the town for. Okay. >> So, if it costs $40,000 just throwing it out there. >> Yeah. >> Is that what we do?
>> No. >> Yeah. >> I think you're safe going to the town because I think a lot of people in town want it easier to go to the beach. >> Yeah. I think one simple thing we're like providing to >> I don't think you get beach. >> I don't disagree with any of that. I'm talking about dollar figures now because
we have to put a dollar figure at town meeting. So, if it's 350 ft, cost $40,000. I'm just throwing it out there as an exaggeration. >> I think it would be >> we do that. >> We'll go with the 20 with the the increase >> $20,000. >> $20,000. What do you think, Barry? >> It's a lot of money. Um,
>> go with 15. >> Well, you get what? You get $15,000 worth and then if you don't get enough, >> do it next year. All right. >> So, 350 ft or $15,000 worth. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then more, go. >> Sound good? Everybody's good with that?
Mhm. >> We have to wait for the vote. >> Second. >> There we go. >> Okay. Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I have zero. Here we go. >> All right. Is that it?
>> That is it for me. >> Okay. Okay. Woody, you're up. >> Uh, no report. Everything's >> good. >> Yeah, >> actually. Beach Avenue looked pretty good. I went down there last weekend. They looked pretty darn good. >> It wasn't bad. No, no, >> lot of water, but >> no big storms. >> Yeah.
>> No, >> I don't have anything. I think we covered it all. You know, >> all said, >> good. >> Nothing. >> Okay. >> Except for the pipe. >> I guess we're good then. I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion that we adjourn. Uh
>> Leon, you made that. You're seconding it. So second by Joel. All in favor those hearings. Um the next