Okay, Tanya. Okay, thank you. Um, I am calling the Westport Board of Health April 28th, 2025 meeting to order. Um, thank you. Under Mass General Law, chapter 38, section 20, this meeting is being recorded and I'm going to turn it
over to Phil Weinberg, vice chair to lead us in the pledge of allegiance. Okay, everybody stand to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Um, and uh, just to make a note, I know that the election has already been a couple meetings ago and should be doing the um, reorganization,
but we're going to wait until all three of us can be present in the same room. So, I appreciate your tolerance on that. Um, and I'm going to turn over to the um, director of public health, Matt Hernando, and his report first, a
written report. Any uh, comments or questions from board members? I have none, madam chair. I'm fine. Okay. Um then we'll turn to uh Matt your updates and I know you have some. Sure. It's just um again the blood drive
schedule uh because blood drive it's important uh the board is in desperate need. So um the next blood drive is on May 15th at St. John the Baptist Church from 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. June 12th
St. John the Baptist Church 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. And then June 12th, uh they're also having one at Whites of Westport, 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. And then there's one on July 17th at Whites of Westport
from 9:00 a.m. to 3:30 p.m. And the August to December um schedule is to be we're still working on that. So, our universal waist shed at the transfer station is in poor condition.
It needs to be replaced. Um, I contacted Covent regarding that Covent Communities Grant and submitted an application. We were approved for um funding up to 5,000 to purchase a new universal waist shed
um which they they pay for and we're aiming to have the new new installed by June 30th or sooner. So, I put a picture on the director's report um of the shed uh that we were looking at. And the universal waste shed basically is a collection of all of our mercury like
light bulbs and uh such. [Applause] Uh just uh over the weekend um our transfer station foreman um we parted ways and uh so now we're
looking to repost a position which I'm hoping that uh will be taken up tonight at the select board meeting where they'll they review it and give us permission to repost a position. Okay. Thank you. Uh any questions? No. Um, okay. Then we're moving on to
director of food plans at um turn it over to Matt. Yeah. Locate that. Okay. So, we have um two-bedroom, new construction
um on a 13,698 ft lot at 88A Hillrest acres. Um for Jay Milky and C Martin, this one is going to be using a
singular and it's uh going to require a two-bedroom deed restriction. Okay. Um I had a question. Has it been Kong reviewed? It wasn't noted. So yeah. Um it's going it's I think I believe it's going over after the meeting. Okay.
Um this is this is a tear down, right? Yes. Any other questions from the board? No. Um I so I move that we endorse the director approved plan at 888A Hillrest
acres um with under the um condition of a two-bedroom deed restriction and concom review. Second motion made and seconded. All in favor? I that's unanimous. Thank you.
Um okay. Next are the April 14th minutes. Um, your absence of those, Donna. Any questions? Yeah, I didn't have any issues or problems with or changes to make with the amendment. So, I move that we approve the minutes for April 14th,
2025. I'll second that. Um, all in favor? I I abstension. Okay. So, that's two to nothing with one abstension. Great. Thank you. Um we want to talk through um under
other business the annual town meeting which is next on May 6th. Um and um I just want to review the articles that we are sponsoring and make sure that we all straight on that. And I have
a question that we need to probably post for help at the uh annual town meeting. only if you guys want to. Um, yeah, we'll post it. Post it just in case we need to discuss or deliberate
something something comes up last minute. Well, don't we usually just get together beforehand, too? So, we we have in the past. Yeah. I Let's Let's review the article, see if we think we need to. Um, we can
we can post it for like 6:45 or something. just in case. Um but then we do have to open it and officially have minutes. So um Donna, would you be willing to um take notes? Um uh because we won't have a um
somebody there to take absolutely as my job as secretary of this board. I would be happy to do that. Thank you. Um okay. Um uh I'm going to go in order of the uh
the warrant. Um so article two is I'm not sure we have copies of that is the um transfer of um funds from uh animal control to uh personnel to
animal control expenses and transportation expenses. and um personnel. Uh the total amount being transferred out of animal control is 19,000. Matt, do we as a result of personnel changes, do we have to modify
that or anything for town meeting? This is for next fiscal year. No, we're transferring out of animal control the remaining funds from this fiscal year. Okay. into um uh transfer station and um a little bit into animal
control expenses for the remainder of this year. But will we need more um just because we because um the foreman has left and will need to do what contracting for hauling?
Well, some of that uh do we need one? I don't think so. for the remainder of FY25 from what we got coming down from animal control u which I believe is 5,000 into transfer station um uh personnel should cover us for the rest
of this fiscal year with what we have remaining already in addition to what we have remaining. Okay. And then expenses we don't need to contract out or any more increased contracting. No, we're not going to use any more um unless unless highway department says they
won't run for us and you uh run our containers anymore, there's no need to use contractors. Okay. All right. Um so that's just um any questions on that? Um board members Matt will not be at the annual town meeting. So um we need to be
prepared to answer any questions. Um everybody clear on that one? Yes. All right. That's article two. Article 12 is um the revolving fund article and that's combined with um all of the
revolving funds. Um our portion of that is the 20,000 for vaccine. Um that's routine. I don't think there'll be any questions on the main floor about that. Um any any questions from board members
on that? No, Madam Chair. Sorry. Um, article 17 is the septic loan program. Yeah, it's listed out 17. Um, I did look at the warrant and the
wording of the actual motion is slightly different. I'm not sure if we'll be expected to make the motion or um not. So, we can figure out who will make motions as needed. Um, this is pretty standard. We've been doing it for years
and years and years and we've run out of money. So, we need to go to the um well, so to speak, and seek more um funds to continue to do the separate loan program. Any questions on that? No,
Madam Chair. No. Okay. Uh great. Um, article 18 is the household hazardous waste collection request for 15,000. Um, we have, I believe, uh, left over from the
last time we did this three or four years ago, I think about 8,000. So, we have enough money um, with this request um, to um, host another um, I think. I we'll have to look at the current pricing, but we'll be able to, you know,
we'll have to restrict it or add fees if there's some um way of if it gets to be an issue, but um we've done this before, at least in my tenure. Um so think this is pretty um popular and hopefully will
not be a source of issue. The funding source will be cash and it was unanimously endorsed by the finance committee. So I don't expect any problems on that one. But any questions on that? No. No. I think it's good that finance is supporting it this time, right?
Yeah. Um there is article 19, the receipts reserved for the transport station. Um that's $25,000 for purchasing a rolloff container and any other sort of
miscellaneous uh equipment or um anything to support the operation of the transfer station. So we know a little we have that. Any comments on that on that one? Pretty routine, right? Yeah, it's pretty
routine. So the the way that the container prices keep climbing uh 25,000 doesn't doesn't seem like enough suddenly, but we'll make it work. Okay. Um I think that's it for
um I did look at the um the budget request. I don't I'm assuming that's still correct. I haven't I couldn't I didn't have an old version to make sure that there hasn't been any changes we weren't aware of, but um I think it it will be fairly
um quiet for board of health stuff as far as I can tell. Um we do have um just maybe Matt you could run through um I think the um the animal control is the only one where the nuances are you know it's a
little bit different than just the standard 3% across the board. Uh what are you asking me to run through? Um the FY26 animal control budget um it does now
in it still includes the funding for a part-time animal control officer. Yes. We're were giving that up because we hadn't been able to hire, but we now have uh somebody on call and um could
could um fully staff the staff the department better if we get that funding, right? Yes. So that's in included in the budget request for the for annual town meeting. I believe it's uh 28,000. I think it's
28,000. And um and that will fund the part-time position for the year. Um and we do have somebody working in that role now, but um through a temp agency and it's being
paid out of FY25 expenses. So if this passes, the budget passes at town meeting for animal control, then that person will be July 1st will be switched to an employee of the town
that's a more long-term sustainable option. So and provides better coverage to the town. So and it's been working out well. The the person's been on call um you know on the off weekends now and a couple of days during the week. So, we've had roundthe-clock
everyday coverage now for a little over a week. Excellent. Okay. Any questions on that? Um, Madam Chair, just in case we're asked to um explain or justify the
budget. Sometimes people put holes on answers to questions. So, just want to make sure we're prepared on that. And I don't think there's nothing on the board of health and transportation is just um uh to reflect what we hope will be
the staffing pattern and work um expenses of the transfer stations. Okay. Um any other questions on the budget or town meeting? So, we'll go ahead and plan to um host a
meeting for 6:45 so we can just check in if this anything happens in the next week that we can discuss um and then we can go forward for a meeting. Okay, sounds great. All right. Um then
let's move on to um board member updates. Just we do have uh we do have an appointment at 4:20 today. Oh, 4:20. Oh, okay. Um it's 4:16. Uh anybody got a short
update? Um can we have the rest of them after the hearings? Um my short update is um May is mental health awareness month and there will be a list of events. There are three events. Um on May 7th, um there'll be an event at the
high school focusing on mental health issues and um the connection between mental health issues and substance use in in teens. And there'll be two other events which I'll have time to talk about at other meetings. But I just wanted people to be aware that at the um
middle high school there will be two meetings, excuse me, there'll be an event on May 7th between 4:30 and 6 pm. Great. And where is that um being like where can people find more information about that? Um well, I'm I'm going to
send something to um send something to Nancy to post on our um page, but I also there'll be a Shorelines article um that's been submitted already and um that will be in there. And then I'm posting flyers
around town and I'll be putting up the um uh the signs all around town announcing May is mental health awareness month so that people are aware that um that there are events happenings.
Thank you very much. Um okay. Um and then um Justin, then the opioid settlement fund um uh committee or advisory committee continues to work and we're really pushing for uh feedback from community members about how to best
utilize the funds. And so we're going to be doing some um emailing and um mailing um so that people can go to a uh use a QR code and go to a questionnaire that they can answer online. So we're going
to be hopefully rolling that out in the next three or four weeks. I think we don't probably I know Phil you have some stuff you want to talk about. Um but probably will take longer than a minute. So um why don't we hold off on that? Um let me just while
we're waiting till 4:20 um does anybody have any topics for the next regular meeting that they would like to put on the agenda? I think we were already putting on um Pine Ridge Estates uh comments first
before the next hearing. Um well I think probably Pine Ridge Estates um just as a general topic area will come up because you know we may be you know preparing comments and um so yep
yeah so we anticipate that for the agenda um we will be having a working meeting on May 20th where we'll be talking about um you know our longerterm projects Please remind me of that. Um okay. Um
well I see on my clock um it's 420 right back. So um I'm going to call the 420 variance here for 33 Benjamin Trip Drive. Um this is with regard to distance from the existing um
soil absorption system to the new structure to a new structure foundation. Um, and I don't think either representative please come to the table. Yeah. Have a seat. And um, you'll have to click on that microphone there. One of those little
I think that also works though. No, it doesn't. It's not working. Good afternoon. Please introduce yourself. Okay. I'm Paul Melo, homeowner of 33 Benjamin Fip Road,
Westport. And do I just I asked B do I keep going? The reason why we asked Mr. Melo to come in is um a building uh permit was issued for his addition to the garage. Yes. and the his foundation to
the garage is 15 feet away from the existing septic which it needs to be 20 feet away. So we asked them to come in to kind of just run through it with us but um I believe the board's going to have to issue a variance for that foundation to be that close to the
septic. Okay, Mr. Go ahead and um I know it's a little awkward having having me or your friend, but um you just go ahead and tell us what your um So, I'm building a like he just like I he just said, I'm building a
I'm adding a one stall to my existing two stall garage. Uh the foundation footprint will be within 15 ft of the existing leeching field. Uh which is I I guess against regulations. So, I'm
basically asking for a variance to uh because of this situation. Um I'm going to ask if board members have questions. I understand we have a um a new document that was distributed which I don't have a copy of in front of
me. Um I'll turn it over to Michelle and Don if you have any questions. So this is just a question for Matt which is um how um you know what category does this variance fall under? Is it you know
local upgrade approval? Is that how we're going to treat it? Okay. All right. Okay. So I I have no objection to that. I'm assuming you're okay with it. Yeah. I believe the foundation is already in. It's already in. That's why it wasn't just say can you move it back 5T. It's
already in. Okay. All right. And a question I have is this is just a garage and there's no intent on putting any kind of other um additional uh place for people to live. There'll be
storage above it, but that's it. Just storage. There's no living space. Okay. Okay. So, um Well, I'm prepared to move on it. Okay.
Um and I'm uh so uh I'm sorry. So do you have the citation because otherwise we should put that in the motion, right? Oh, the um the citation the statuto the regulatory citation. What's the citation? Oh
404. Oh, I was just going to refer to local local upgrade approval. Okay. because which is what we usually do. Approval by the way. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Great. All right. So, um I move to approve
um the variance request by uh along with a plan um from Paul Melo at 33 Benjamin Trip Road. Uh I guess it's uh we're going to call it a repair.
Uh and on a plan dated 122 2024, uh the local upgrade approval waiver is to allow a setback in the distance between the uh SAS and the um additional
garage structure from 20 ft to 15 ft and have a whole harmless agreement with that. I don't think we need concom or other approval. Uh well, Concom already looked at the building application. Okay. So, I think
we're okay with that. Okay. Okay. I second. Has been made and seconded to approve the project at 33 Benjamin Trip Road with the condition of a hold homeless clause. Um all in favor?
I thank you. Thank you, Mr. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay, we have a few minutes. I'm still going to next um hearing at 4:30. Um
uh so any other Let me go back to that just because I think that this session um Phil is it do you need more than five minutes or should we Yeah. No, I think we I I think we can do it in in five minutes because I think that um everyone's familiar with the background
of this and um and so coming out of the last uh ZBA hearing on the Pine Ridge Estates project um in which the applicant was requesting waiverss, some of those for our local regulations and
some uh for the conservation commission regula uh regulations and there was some overlap between our two bodies and our two local rules regarding stormwater um
stormwater management systems. And um and then at what came out of the ZBA meeting is further study on the stormwater side as to whether or not the results of the test pits that um the
applicant took would support or um the applicant's position about putting in a detention basin. Whereas the ZBA's consultant um thought that it compliance with the D stormwater regulations would
require an infiltration basin. And um and so that issue and a number of other issues leads me to propose that we be in
a position when the next uh set of waiver requests come and we are uh need to decide what we want to respond to in writing to the ZBA that it would it
would help us to have um some opinion on town councils on some of these questions because um I don't think any of us have really experience of exactly
um what it is that the ZBA is going to issue and whether or not there are things that based on our comments they would condition their um their uh permit for or whether they would just um you
know kind of deflect it to us when the matter came before us uh in the septic side and in the stormwater side and and then there were some other issues and I circulated to Matt like five possible
questions that we could ask town council and I think uh the reason I was asking or suggest recommending to the board is because we need to get approval from the town administrator and I thought that it would be helpful if the board voted to
support seeking town council and then I would also present to the conservation commission um what I where I thought it would be helpful to us because I think the conservation commission is in the same boat that we are as far as not really being familiar about what the
relationship was between what the ZBA's authority was and and how their permit would read and what we would do under our permitting regulations. And I thought rather than um you know just having Matt make the request that it
come you know with the additional weight of the board and hopefully the commission's um support of that and then we can decide um if we have that then we can decide based on what the applicant the waiver
requests the applicant actually files that then we can decide what it is that we want to comment on and and and then have that conversation with town council. So, that's my proposal. We just
be better off, I think, um uh framing our our our comments in light of um what town council may advise us. So, um Okay. Um, I think this is
probably going to be a little bit more discussion. Um, so let's hold that thought and um, I'm going to call the 4:30 p.m. hearing and um, we'll come back to that. Um so um at 4:30 p.m. hearing is for Len
Potter uh representing 206 cabinets neck road Susan Aron. This is a four bedroomedroom with a 34 on a 13,200 square foot lot. Good evening.
Potter here for Susan Aronowski at L. There several people that own the property are all related. And 206 Cadmas Neck Road is the last house on Cad's Neck Road. Lenny, could you put this on your shirt, please? You can't be heard
on Masses want to hear you. Everybody wants to hear me. There you go. Okay. All right. I don't say no. Thank Okay, thank God. Well, I stopped myself. So, anyway, um
the properties the last house on Cadmas Neck Road on the left and it's the river is directly to the south. They own the shoreline and there's a depression or a gut we call it coming down the back side of this property and uh the the mean
water comes up in here and there's a coastal bank and the coastal bank is shown on the plan. Anyway, uh the soil the soils are all sand the water table is deep. Uh so I came up with this u solution that this house now uses a
cesspool. So installing a 1500gallon tank into a leech field consisting of quick fours I can get um approximately not approximately I am getting 52 ft from
the owner's well and 54 ft from the well belonging to Dorothy Sang at 204. Uh so I'm 54t away from that. So I need variances for both wells and the system itself is
13 ft from the edge of the foundation wall. And what I need is uh code says 20 ft. So, we're going to install a PVC barrier right around that leech field um so that we have no infiltration into
that into the basement wall. So, I need two variances. 310 CMR 15.4052 B. That's the distance to foundation wall less than 20 feet and 310 CMR 154051G that's the distance between
wells being less than 100 ft. Um I have water testing be submitted to you also the water at both properties has a high bacteria count so they can get an accurate count on the color form but the
nitrates are low. Uh 206 has a nitrate level of 1.4. 4 ammonia is less than.5 nitrates is 06 much less than one. They did a special test on on on lead and that's no
problem. And then 204 has the same issue with the bacteria background bacteria nitrates is um 3.9 and ammonia is less than.5 again.
and nitrates is again 06 much less than the one minimum and that's where I am I think this I the problem with the the two shallow well they're not well point and the houses closed down in September and they took these tests in October I
guess it was so that you get bacteria still warm and get bacteria growing in the wells so you have two choices either um install ultraviolet light uh pump the wells, shock them with chlorine, chlorine, and pump them, pump
them, pump them, and go from there. But what's they're not interested in putting the system in until the fall. So my suggestion is once they're living there in the summer months, both parties test the well again before the perimeter is actually
issued. But that's that's the problem that I have. And that's it for me. Um I want to just ask uh do we have a better notification for um yes I have it I don't have it with me but I do have it from Mrs. Sang. Yes.
And I can't see the all the chairs but I'm assuming there are nobody there's no others present. No. Okay. Okay. Um uh we'll turn it over to Matt for his report. really constrained on design because
there's not a lot of room over there. Um but um for what is designed, there was no issues that I seen. So really nothing to add. Um I I want to just point out that
um the home at 204 the water is not suitable for drinking because of the background bacteria. Well, it said high levels of manganesees. High levels of what? Manganesees. Manganesees. Manganesees is a naturally occurring enemy. Yeah, but it said it's it was it
was high, but but that's in 204. So, I just um you know, I think it's important. I'm sure they were notified when when water testing is done. Is the homeowner that had the water testing done, did they receive the results?
She followed them to Mrs. S. Okay. I just want to make sure. Mrs. saying is very interesting. She wants to fix her septic system next. Yes, you do. Okay. But manganese is a naturally occurring metal just like iron. So, you need to install an iron removal filter. Okay.
Manganese and iron are naturally occurring metals in New England soils. I'm aware of that, but I just want to make sure that the homeowner I've never known it being dangerous, but that's all right. I'm not certainly too much of anything is not
good. So, I think that's the issue. That's why it's not votable. Y um so I just um just to clarify because in the in the does the there's a shed that's listed here and is it just that the shed
has no foundation or it's greater than 15. Okay. So that's one thing. And then when you were describing the um uh the last sentence you said as something like issuing the permit after the water tests are done in
the you mean issuing this permit or a permit occupancy permit kind of thing. No the permit to repair. Okay. So what I'm saying is what they should do is let them they move in the house and they start using the water. So now you
get a flow and then test it after a month or so and see what it is. Right. If you feel the maganese is an issue, then they're going to put a metal remove. No, I was just trying to figure out um but you're before us today that we
issue a permit and is it right or that you're just telling us that this is what you're intending to do? This is what I'm going to do. Okay. All right. I didn't understand that. I'm not asking for a permit. But I'm asking for an approved plan and then we have to deal evidently
with the water supply. Right. Right. Okay. I mean they have to we have to put not nitrate filter an iron removal filter. I do have that lead results and the lead is fine
that's attached at the end but evidently they send this out to Bonsible County Health Laboratory to get the lead. Let's see a certificate of analysis Boston County Health Laboratory. So I guess um Envir
Enviotech Lab doesn't do that. But in both cases the lead is fine. So okay. So I apologize for my my density here because I know that sometimes you you come and you request like conceptually this is what I want to do. Yeah. But now
you're asking for us to approve the plan, right? Um and but to but at some later point you'll file a construction application per a permit applica. I'm just trying to figure out
what I don't think I don't think you you can issue the permit to Areronowski until you have a good source of water. Right. Okay. So I'm not asking to pull a permit. All I'm asking is if the plan looks good to you, you can vote on the
variances and then subject to the water quality being checked. Ah, okay. So that's okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Okay. I think that's is different than So we're going to issue an approval with
that condition. That's right. Okay. Which in my Okay, that's fine. Okay. Madam Chair, since you're off to the side, I'll I'm gonna speak up to say that I know you were trying to say something. Oh, I didn't want to interrupt. Um, so I
think Phil has got clarification on on the intent there to um have a conditional approval. Um um but I wanted to raise the issue. Um I know the nitrates are low in the wells, but of course they were they're not active.
They were tested during their not active, you know, season. So, there were no occupants and no septic flow. Um, but it is it's right on the river. It's right above the river. You know,
it's very close to the coastal bank. Um, and I'd like you to discuss um why you don't think dite would be necessary. Well, the nitrate level is low, the ammonia is low, and the nitrates are
low, and the bacteria is background bacteria. So, I don't see that that's an issue. I mean, if you want another water test, we are going to do a water test once these wells get opened up and then let's see what the nitrates looks like
then when there is flow. They're going to move in probably after Memorial Day, if not sooner. So, all I all I can tell you is I I don't see where that there's a problem with nitrates. If there was nitrates in the well, it would be there even if the
well wasn't being used. Even when there's no septic flow, right? Um well that um I I take your point about the um wells not appearing not to be impacted but just um the
proximity to the river um still is a concern to me. Um so I I just want to flag that I I think the answer is when we do the next water test when these houses are opened up let's see where it takes us
from there. If the nitrates come back above five, then we got to do dite. But as of right now, we don't have to. But we have to clear up the background bacteria and the manganesees. Okay. Okay. Um, any other comments or
questions from the board? None for me, Madam Chair? No, I'm fine. Okay. Um so I think we want a motion that would be uh to approve the project contingent upon subsequent water testing um meeting acceptable standards and uh
otherwise I would ask Mr. monitor term with the proposed um solutions to that um you know whether it's just the depending on what the results are. We can't kind of condition all the eventualities at this point is my opinion.
So is there um you ready to make a motion? Um I can do it. Are you go ahead? Okay. So I would move to approve the plan for Susan Areronowski at all at 206 Cabinet Neck Road, fourbedroom repair on a plan
dated 32825 um subject to conservation commission review a fourbedroom deed restriction. um a local upgrade waiver. Um the distance from the SAS to the basement
wall from 20 ft to 13 ft. set back from the SAS to the well, the sight well um to be 52 feet, the abutter well at 204, Cadman neck to be 54t
um a u hold harmless agreement and conditional upon uh subsequent uh water testing uh showing acceptable levels of nitrate in uh and other contaminants.
bacterial in the well and provision of the ab butter notifications um to the board office. Do we also need three years of water testing? Oh, and three years are do. Okay. Yeah, three years of well testing. Sorry for that. Both both. Yes, for
both. Thanks. Okay. So, I second that. Motion made and seconded to approve the project at 20 cabinet rules with those conditions. All in favor? I I see. Thank you. If I can make one more comment. The
other thing, Tanya, these are both summer homes that get shut down after Labor Day. And a DNight system without that constant flow would not work as efficient. It won't work at all. It It needs to have food for the bacteria
continually. But someday I think there's Yeah, I think there are some new newer technologies that work better with seasonal systems. But I I I am not an expert. So um I I I take your point. Everybody's an expert when it comes to solid systems.
I would never claim to be an expert on that. I would never claim to be an expert. Neither would I. They all They all get one. Thank you very much. Thanks. All right. Thank you.
Have a bit of a microphone. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, we'll know all your secrets. Okay. Um I'm gonna call the um unanticipated um topic of an emergency repair variance
hearing for the plans for 541 Old Beard Road. Alex Gordetski property owner and engineer represented here from his wife I believe. I'm not an
engineer. Can you put that? Whatever. Yeah. I'm not an engineer. He had dental appointment today. So I know he submitted a project for septic system and uh it's in a process and um I just noticed water was accumulating. So I
called subjects uh pump service A&D last week and the guy came and he pumped it you know it's full and he said uh the wall is collapsing there like big sort of big stone he showed me it's on the
bottom it should be up the wall is and some area around little bit like you know lower level than the surrounding area he said don't step on it it's kind of collapsing sort of in a process So we said fix it as soon as possible and I I
told Alex before so we just kind I know he's doing project but I told him about that and he said okay I'll just you know pass it to the town of Westport and see if he can do he can start as soon as possible.
Okay. I'm going to have Matt um I'm going to have you um walk us through it. I I don't have the documents. I can get I'll go back and forth but um I don't have the documents in front of me. So yeah. So as stated the uh the cesspool walls
are collapsing and it falls under the emergency repair provision um in title five and um the um the other reason was there was an added variance. So, these plans were approved
previously for this property, but um recently uh earlier in the month, there was an added variance request that wasn't part of the original approval. So, that's why we're here as well to approve this added variance request to to approve fully approve
these plants. So the added variance request is um for the septic tank invert separation from the groundwater table uh to 2 in. That was not part of the original uh
plan approval request and um 2 in. What's the normal from 12 in down to 2 in? 12 to two. Okay. It's the ground. But and there's also one for the pump tank invert from
12 in to 1 in in the plan that but I think that one was previously approved. I see. Okay. This one was just this one was added on to that other um we already heard that one. Yeah. But I
So but we're going to approve this plan. We should go back over that. you want to do? I can I can Well, I don't I I You tell me what to do. I'm just looking at the plan that we're approving and it has these waiver requests in it. So, yeah, I think I do. We can frame it
the other way, but it just seems more straightforward to do it this way. And this cuz and then we have this plan is revised April 2nd, 2025. The other ones March 2022. Okay. So the original
plan uh this is the original plan there submitted these are the original variance requests. Yeah. Yeah. So this one that's added would have to be added to that list. Right. Yeah. So do we have a revised
plan with that additional variance on it? Yes we do. This one does. Yeah. Um yeah it's part of the package. Okay. So, uh, set back set back per test
12. I don't see anything. This actually has the Oh, it doesn't have the This has the um the 12 in to 1 in here. What it doesn't have is the 12 in to 2 in. That's what you're saying. Yeah. He wanted to go 12 in to 2 in. He changed it. But that's all here.
Okay. So, you did this all there. Yeah, that's all these days. All these are here of April 2nd, 2025. Set back. tape to let's see tape on my thing here. Oh, let's see.
Uh, okay. Oh, I see. So, some of this uh, right? So, it doesn't have the Okay. So, it's a So, it doesn't have the Well, set this plan. The April 2nd plan does not have the
um setbacks from the well um that is in the uh March plan. So uh so if you think that everything that is in this
plan then we could refer to this plan and just add the 2-in separation. Yes. Well um we just because otherwise this plan is incomplete.
So this is the plan that was approved. This one was from John Stanley. Okay. And then they added that other variance. So I would if you're going to go by what was approved recent more recently is this plan here. Okay.
Okay. All right. Well, so this plan Matt, right? This is Right. Okay. So this plan has the groundwater separation of 12 in to 2 in and the
groundwater separation of 12 in to 1 in. So that's both in this. This is the is that the doesn't have our approved stamp. Oh, that's con. Huh? That's con. Okay. So this matches
this and it's the Yeah. Right. So this is a paper version of this. Yes. Okay. But I'm just saying it doesn't have the setbacks that are in the March 2nd
plan and but it but this plan does have the 12 in to 2 in. So what? Um uh so um but I'm
uh let's see. Okay. I mean I don't know what's your pleasure that because you're gonna you're gonna have a final plan. Okay. See these are setbacks here. These are those are not listed up here.
This is this is the variances requested here. Right. So this plan here has a septic tank invert separation from 12 to one. I got that part. What I'm saying is it doesn't have this part. the distances,
the setback distances from the from the tank to the uh in the newest iteration of the plant. I don't know. I haven't looked for that. Well, that's right here. I know. No. Yeah, it doesn't have that in there. Okay. I think we should just approve
just do the approval and add this new variance in and just include all the variance requests in the newest iteration of the plan and that way we'll be covered. Fine. I I won't argue with you.
Okay. All right. So, just a question. So, all we're doing now is approving the plan um with the variances that are on the plan. We're not doing all the other conditions or are we doing the
conditions as well? You know what? Just to be safe, we should just probably just do it as we're approving it. Add the conditions and that way it's just like we're doing that way. you don't have to come back and say we forgot to do the condition. It seems to me to be just the best way to to to cover it all. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. [Music] Um Okay. Do we have the prior um approval? Yeah, it's sitting right here in front of us. It's just that I don't have that. So I
I mean the problem if I can say this succinctly is that this had this the March plan has all the uh waiver requests except for the 2-in separation
request. This plan, the April 2nd plan does not have the well setback requests that are in the March plan. It only has the groundwater separation waiverss and so and it's a
little hard. I'm assuming that the uh you know that that the same distances are set out here. So I think what you're saying is just do them all together. Yes. Okay. All right. And then Okay. So
I think I can do that. Right. I'm going to request that you as part of the motion you include a revised plan that has all of the you know has it has it consolidated everything together. Okay. Okay. So I think what I understand
what you're saying. So, um I move to approve the plan um for Alex Veski at 541 Old Bedford Road, which is a four bedroomedroom repair um
on uh on that will reflect um the plans u dated March 8th uh 2022 and um and April 2nd.
uh again in April 2nd, 2025. am subject to uh Concom approval, a fourbedroom deed restriction, a local upgrade waiverss, including a reduction
of the well setback system from the septic tank from 50 ft to 14 ft, a reduction of the well setback from the pump tank of 50 ft to 26 ft. um a groundwater separation table uh
separation reduction of the septic tank invert from 12 in to approximately 1 in and a separation of of from groundwater to the pump tank of 12 in uh to 1
in. Also approval of the civ analysis um a hold harmless agreement. I don't know if you want to say anything about the reduction of the bedroom or that's just in the plan. And it's just in the plan. Okay. So, uh
and that's it. Okay. I second that. I I have a question. You said a fourbedroom deed restriction. Oh, why is it not? I think it's a big lot. It's a 37 acre lot. So Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I have to take that back.
Okay. So, amend the motion to remove No, I didn't even have it in my notes. I don't know why I said it. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Okay. No, no de restriction. Let me just ask
um is that motion um complete? Matt, do we have everything we need? I think it's complete. Do we I just did we ask for just a set of updated plans to include everything? Uh yeah. Okay. So yeah. Okay.
I think it's good complete. Did you get that Bob? I'm not sure. Okay. So we need to be clear for Bob. So it just so that the plan will be in the form of a substitution of a revised plan that will
incorporate all the um waiverss that uh I referenced if you or do you have those? Should I go through it again? I can email them to you, Bob. It's not a big deal. Uh well, actually it is. Yeah,
it says he wants to reflect them in That's right. Basically, you have conditions from both sides of plans all the That's right. revis. Yes. Yes, he can send over the draft
minutes and then I can look at what he has or we can I can revise them as I understand it the same way he does that that that the new plan has to have all the variances that are recorded on the old plan and the new plan, right? On the old plan and and the added new variants
all have to be on one set of revised plans now. Yeah. Mhm. And then the conditions of concom approval and hold harmless and harmless. Yeah. And the civ analysis.
Okay. I think we're clear. Um any any further questions or comments? If not, I'll call the vote for um uh approval at 541 Old Bedford Road for Alex
Tardeski with the conditions as outlined and revised plan. All in favor? I I I That's unanimous. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any question? So, can he start building or is he doing anything else?
So, he's going to have to submit uh the revised plans and that way we can stamp them um once they come back from Kong approved and then he'll be able to start moving forward because he'll have approved plans. Obviously, I mean that doesn't take too long. You know, if he
gets the revised plans into us tomorrow, it only takes, you know, a day. So, I I should tell him to do revised plans, right? Yes. Okay. And he knows what is needed. Yeah. And if he has any questions, he can give me a call. Okay. Okay. Thank you.
Bob, what I was saying was it's not a big deal to email overview the the the list of variances so you can uh put them into the minutes, you know, correctly if you wanted to enumerate them in exactly the way they need to be. Okay. Um thank you everyone. Um all
right, we're going to go back to the um board member updates. Bill was requesting uh a premium um sign of authorization from the board
to access town council if needed for um submitting comments um to the EDA um for the next round of waiver requests coming from the Pidge Developer. Um I would
just note um I I think my understanding is that storm water is really not in our favorite way. It it's sort of superseded by planning board storm water regulations which deal with development
and that's what this is. We normally only deal with single family project, single family residential projects. Um, so I I think we may not um, you know, it's exceeding our um, reach a little bit to get too much into the weeds on
the storm water for a development um because we don't have regulations that govern developments is my understanding. Um, um, and it sounds to me it sounds like that the ZDA has a consultant who's
who's sort of digging into the weeds on this on behalf of the ZVA and board. Um um however, if there are um concerns, we will have a meeting on May 12th um which will be right after they have to submit the deadline for
them submitting the new waiver request. So um that's why I was saying we can put on the uh agenda then for discussion. So um you know if it if it's sort of administratively beneficial to have a
vote about potential for accessing town council. I would not pursue that until we get the labor request, right? Um I don't have any objection to um making, you know, putting our um uh requests, you know, formalizing
that potential request. Yeah, there are um I mean I agree with you about the stormwater part of it. I mean, our our last comment letter specifically requested the ZBA not to wave our local storeboard regulation.
And so it may be in light of um how this discussion comes out. We would not include that in our final letter assuming that you know that we wouldn't make an issue out of that. But there are some other
particular um board of health issues that um were the ones that I I thought would be helpful to get some answers to from you know town council because
um I have some concerns and I and I know that some of the abutters have expressed concerns about um what the impact of like all 38 homes drawing well water will have, you know,
where there's enough water quantity there. I'm not sure that we can do anything about it given the status of our regulations. So, I wanted to ask county council about that. Was that something we could address? Um, you know, ask
for the applicant to do something in anticipation of that issue. And um and then I know that Matt had commented on the uh on the perk test issue which I think is a kind of a live issue and uh
again just to see if when we look at it again that's just kind of a uh have the benefit of someone who's familiar with the ZBA process to see if there's more information to um that's
really necessary because the presump as I understand it the presumption is that the CBA will wave anything that the applicant wants unless we make this is my work kind of a compelling case that
there's a real concern there um and so kind of override the um presumption that the ZBA has you know that the the Z the ZBA statute has that um local rules will generally be waved
unless there's, you know, a significant reason why they're, you know, why they're not waved. So, um anyway, yep. I I think you're correct in that uh assessment. Um we can only deal with local regulations that we have on the
books. Um so that would be our local subject regulation which does cover the perk pest and our local storm water regulation which I don't think really um applies in this case um or is sort of superseded by um other regulations um
and more more expertise in that realm I don't know the overlap with Hong Kong that would be something you would be more um attuned to um so I I I think Um you know
I I think we can comment on anything we want. Um whether that is um uh uh legally sort of in the scope or not um you know even as private residents
you you can always comment. So I think we can make comments about what we see from our perspective irrespective we need to address specific waiver requests but we can make general comments saying and I think we did that already with regard to concerns about
um the proposed design of 38 individual IIA systems which would be um a tremendous burden to to oversee and manage for the poor health. Um, so I think we've already done that and I don't see any reason why we can't
continue to do that. Um, and the ZVA, it's up to the ZBA to take those comments or not take them. Um, as whether as to, you know, in scope of their review or not or sort of influence, but um so
um that's sort of my take on it. But I think we should anticipate spending some time on May 12th. assuming we have a uh revised way of request to formulate how we want to comment. Um and then um you know at that
meeting we can determine if we to pursue access to town council but we can make the motion now so that it's you know Matt can proceed expeditiously if needed. Okay.
Well, I my question is if it's not on the if it's not on the agenda, can we vote on it? Can we vote on um I mean you probably not. It's not explicitly. I mean updates are for to share
information, right? So um okay, thank you for that administrative, you know, for the procedural um thing. Um so let's anticipate putting on the agenda for May 12th. um we can turn them around right away from the 13th if necessary. Um so
uh um we'll put on the next on the May 12th meeting um in addition to um board reorganization, we'll put the Pine Ridge Estates potential and potential request for town council access um as part of
that discussion. Um anything uh else? Let me turn first back to Matt I mean Phil for any other um updates you want to share. Um well
just um just by way of information for anyone who might watch this over the next couple of days. The uh Westport River Wershed Alliance is holding their electronics recycling uh this Saturday. Um and you can go to their website for
details um on the timing and you know what kind of um you know uh electronics are acceptable and uh it's you it's usually located at the town hall.
Great. Thank you. Yes, that's a a much welcome um opportunity to get rid of all those old uh electronic devices and boards and all that kind of stuff that everybody seems to accumulate. So, excellent.
Thank you for supporting alliance. And I could also just mention it's not related um it's not a board of health um event but there is going to be an event at the middle high school um on
Saturday um called well it's it's about stroke buddies. It's an organization um that um has information about stroke and there's a very large um uh number of people that are members and I believe
South Coast Health is going to have some presence there. Um and I believe there's a a touch of truck or something that's happening as well for for kids, but it's an event that's happening through the day. And of course, um, heart disease, cardiovascular disease, um, and stroke
are something that as a, as a nurse and board of health member, I certainly am concerned about. So, if anybody has, um, time to go and spend, it's I think it's all day. It's from like 9 to 3:00 uh, to try to attend that.
Uh, great. Thank you for reminding us about that. Um certainly uh any important health events and opportunities are good for us to promote. Um okay.
Um so any other topics for the next regular meeting which will be May 12th. Again, a reminder, we have a for working meeting on May 20th where we can talk about ADU bedroom policy and well res and all sorts of
long-term longer term projects that we working on. Um I don't have any, Madam Chair. I can't think of anything. Okay. Uh we've covered unanticipated stuff. Um then I believe well if there's
no other further business I move that we adjourn this meeting at 512. Second motion made and seconded to adjourn. All in favor? I that's unanimous. Thank you everyone. I appreciate and I appreciate your