Okay. Uh, good afternoon everyone. Welcome to the Westport Board of Health August 18th, 2025 meeting which I am calling to order under Mass General Law Chapter 3A section 20F. This meeting is being recorded. And please join me for
I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all for all.
I'll try not to sneeze on the mic at this time. Okay. Um, so first item on the agenda. Oh, okay. Any comments or questions from? No, Madam Chair. All right. How do you do your update,
Matt? Okay. Um, I'm just going to run through mine real quick and then I'm going to turn them over to Olive. So, the new universal waste shed has been installed at the transfer station as you can see from the picture. Uh, this is where we take the
bulbs and mercury devices. So, fits in nicely down there. And thank you again to Coanta for uh funding this. The fire chief and I attended a meeting with representatives from the from code red which is an emergency notification system designed to help the public
safety and health agencies quickly send targeted alerts to the community. The platforms mo supports multiple channels including voice calls, SMS, text messages and email and a mobile app and it you know this it ensures timely and
reliable communication um through this system. The system would be especially valuable during extreme weather events, shelter openings, infectious disease outbreaks and other public health and safety situations. Matt, is this
equivalent to a reverse 9119 or is it different? It's a little bit different. I think it's does a lot of the same things, but I think um for different broader type things rather than just 911 type of things.
Can you say our cost map for that? Yep. The yearly cost is I think $7,000. Not too Not too bad considering the um positive impacts it will have for the community. Okay, thank you.
The animal control van AC quit, but we had that fixed. Um, wasn't too too bad of a price. So, that's uh the AC is up and running again. The transfer station rolloff truck top had to be replaced and there was several fluid leaks that had
to be repaired. The cost of the repairs was around 6,100, which was 68% of the vehicle repair budget for FY26. Since then, we've spent another 1,400 in repairs. The solenoid uh for the PTO um
seized on Saturday morning, so we had to get that up and get that repaired this morning and we got the truck back uh later on this afternoon. So, uh we're eating up quite a bit of the budget early for truck repairs at the transfer station, but hopefully, you know, we'll
be good for the rest of the year. On uh August 12th, I attended a MIMA tabletop exercise and thanks to the Chief Baldwin for organizing the training. It was very valuable. It was highly informative and reinforced the importance of clear communication and
collaboration amongst all town agencies to effectively promote those affected by extreme weather events. I think the takeaway from that meeting was we have a lot of work to do to be able to respond as you know um to just
respond appropriately. I mean the communication is it's broken. We need to come up with Yeah. So we need to come up with a way to communicate effectively for these types of events. And when you say communication, is it just with between between um between the
departments or with our community as well? I think both really that there should be a emergency management team, right, that meets before these events and comes up with a plan of action and then during those meetings, we would come up with a
plan to effectively communicate out to the public. Um so we all know that needs to be done. We just really need to come together and come up with a a good plan to achieve all of that. Does any did you go to the meeting or
Okay. Um and then on August 13th, I met with the electronic software company permitiz and we only had a 1 hour time limit they set for the meeting. So we were unable to cover everything as planned.
But I've since emailed all our revised permits applications to them and uh once their team has completed their review, they will reschedule a follow-up meeting in the coming weeks. So, um we're still, you know, trying to plug through this
electronic permitting stuff, but we're making progress finally with that. Um and with that I will turn it over to Olive for the uh collaborative monthly report which is the first one um
the inaugural report. Yes. Hi everybody. Um to the folks who might be watching my name is Olive Wurski and I'm the shared services coordinator for the South Coast Public Health Collaborative. Um this is the monthly
report for kind of July August. since we're still kind of in the middle of August. Um, so this is not a complete overview. I'm sure there's something missing, but I tried to get as much as I possibly could included in here. Um, so
in the last month, we have started the fall vaccination campaign. Um, and we've added vaccine education materials to our collaborative website as well as made printouts that people can take home or things that they can print themselves
with the current guidance because the rules are always changing um with the current administration. So, it can be kind of confusing. We want to try to encourage as many people as possible to get their vaccines and make it as clear as they possibly can. Um, I created Yes.
intro. Can you remind people of the website? Oh, yes. The website is sc.org and there is a special vaccination guidance section under the resources library tab. Thank you. Yeah. Um I created harm reduction fact
sheets for the collaborative. Those are also available on the website. Um, it's just basic information about what harm reduction is to kind of answer people's, you know, basic questions. I also want to print them out and have them available at all of our events, um,
along with Narcan just because it's important to get that information out there. Um, similarly, we ordered 48 boxes of Narcan in anticipation of the federal funding ending for that program. Um, and
we also got four Nlloxx boxes that we're planning on putting around town in addition to the three that I worked with STAR to install earlier in the year. Can you again just for the general audience remind people what um, Narcan and
Oh, yes. I'm sorry. Um, Narcan is a nasal spray medication that reverses opioid overdoses. Um, and it's safe and there are no dangerous side effects and everybody should carry it with them. Um,
I have been assisting with the Westport planning department for their emergency preparedness event. Um, they're working on MVP 2.0 and so we've been meeting often and trying to figure out ways to engage kind
of like what Matt was discussing earlier. How do we get people talking about emergency preparedness in the town and what can we offer folks? So, we've put together a bunch of I think there's 500 bags of emergency. It's like a
little kit for all kinds of emergencies. Um there's like a blanket, one of those blankets that you use when it's really cold. It's like aluminum. Yeah. Um cold and hot packs, whistles. Um I'm missing a lot of different
things, but and then we've also made printed materials. Um DIA in the planning department came up with a campaign called Westport Ready. And so we've created a checklist of things that people should have with them and we're trying to come up with like games and
kind of uh interactive activities for the event that's on the 23rd here in Westport. Yes, I believe it's on 23rd of this month. Uh is it at uh Lady of Grace Church on Sanford Road? Yes. Oh, okay. Yep. Um there is a health fair in
Freetown on the 18th of September and we purchased many many many items for that event and delivered them to Freetown. Um some of them were similar to kind of what we're working on here with MVP, but then a lot
of it was just like basic health stuff. We got them tick education, tick repellent. We got them electrolyte stuff to put in their water, um cooling packs, heating packs, all kinds of things so that people can,
you know, take advantage of that health fair over there. Um during the wildfire smoky days here, we were monitoring the air quality pretty closely. I was checking three times a day and keeping track um looking at all of our purple
air sensors. Uh the highest during those during that week was 134 on August 5th at the fire station down here and the lowest was at the watershed on the 8th and that was just 11. So it went
really bad and then really good. Um the worst day was the 5th and the best day was the eth during that week. Um I have created materials for Marian for their emergency preparedness presentations that they're doing. They're doing a series at COA and a
couple other community um buildings. Um and then also for tick education, I have made kind of packets that do that educate people on the ticks that are in our area, the most prevalent ticks in our area and then just general tick
education. Um which I spoke about last time I spoke to you all. Um we posted our shared services health specialist position. Um we are still waiting to find people to interview for that. We are working with UMass the they have a
public health internship program and we would love to get an intern here in Westport. So we're working with them to try to make that happen. Um we have updated all the Westport applications and complaint forms so that they will work with electronic editing
software trying to keep us updated. Um, moving with the times. Um, we have conducted 16 plus inspections in Freetown, Rochester, and Lakeville. So, towns across the collaborative.
Um, what else? We hired Katherine Cabraw for the shared services health specialist role. Um, she started on the 11th and she's going to be taking the CPO training, which is the pool certified pool operator training on
October 2nd and 3rd and SERB safe on August 26th and then hopefully the SE and SI classes in the spring. Um, we're going to have vaccine clinics for flu and RSV across the collaborative. We are going to try to plan a MIMA full
day disaster training inspired by the um event that Matt went to. We're preparing for two other fall trainings, one for food truck inspections and another um harm reduction and stigma training similar to the one that we hosted in
November. So, we're working with STAR and UMass again for that one. And it's going to be at UMass this this time around. Um, and then I have updated the website again, sc.org with our FY25 report, the full report
for the collaborative fall vaccine guidance and um, immigrants rights information so that they have access to that in several different languages. Um, those are the big ones. Oh, one more
that I forgot. Um we are completing and submitting the reporting for the D mini grant. So the the bicycle grant um in October. So we have to make sure that all of those things are completed over at the transfer station by then.
And that's it. Great. Any questions? No. But you omitted the fact that you helped speak the opioid settlement fund advisory committee. Um meet some of their goals and participate in uh disseminating information to the public for our police
night out. Thank you. You're giving me a little too much credit for that, but No, no, no. I mean, you've been available to help with education and community um and especially with uh the committee that I'm chair of. It's been uh really helpful. Thank you.
You're welcome. Well, it it really just demonstrates the the worth of the public health excellence grant that Westport received. Um um and it allows us to collaborate with those other communities to really do a lot more outreach and resource
support. So appreciate all that you pretty broad spectrum of things. So that's especially around the emergency planning and preparedness. I think that's not a strength of this town currently. So, um, working on that, focusing on
that is really helpful. Yeah, we're trying to improve. All right, great. Thank you. Thanks very much. Have a great evening. Is this going to be done every month or is this how is this going to work with the report? We haven't decided if it's going to be
once a month or once once a quarter, but uh we'll we'll we'll see. I mean, if we have a busy month, we may want to report it in the month. If not, it'll be once a quarter. And I I again think it's really important that the community knows the benefit that's happening occurring
because of this grant. Um that that this is how this is put into that put into action in our town as well as in other towns. But I I really think it's important that people know what's happening. So thank you Olive for all you're doing.
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Um moving on to minutes. Um, we had August 11th special. We just have one, right? Well, we have the regular minutes from August 4th in our packet, but the agenda
is Oh, yes. What do we do about that? You can only approve the ones that Do you have the ones in your packet from August 11th? We don't have the We So, we'll have to skip that. Yeah, skip it. Yeah. Do them. Okay, we'll pass over. So, August 11th is not in packet,
right? We have the August 8th minutes. Just we won't vote on them. We'll have to wait until they're on the agenda. But did anybody have any problems with the August 8th minutes because they were in our packet, just so we can clean them up if we need to. I'm sorry, August 4th. Sorry, my
August 4th, the last regular meeting. I have no um changes or to add to that. Okay. So, we'll we'll just hold those until we get them on the agenda for the next meeting. Okay. Um, moving on to other business
before appointments. Um, so first request is appoint Katherine Cabaral as an agent of the board of health. Her last vote was to recommend hiring her and now she needs to form an appointment as agent of the board of health. And
Matt, any you want to add to that? Um she's been training a lot um doing a lot of the required trainings that we that you know is prescribed by DPH and myself. So she's been working hard at that. She's got a couple of uh trainings coming up. One in the 26th uh
for her um serve safe and then again for her CPO the um SE soil elevator class. I mean, it opened up on one day and filled up in the same day. And I've kind of sent an email off to the state saying, "You got to, you know, this happens all the
time." And there's just not enough um they don't have enough availability. They need to put, you know, put another training together to, you know, allow more people to attend. It happens all the time. So, we we were right on top of it. We still
didn't she still didn't get in. So, um but that's a requirement. She needs, you know, we need to get, she needs to have that in order to go do perks and on her own and and inspections. But for now, she's just going to shadow John. Tomorrow, she's going to shadow Ed out
in Lakeville on some stuff, and we'll just keep her going that way with Title 5 until she's able to get through these uh trainings and certifications. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, so I would take a motion to appoint Katherine Cabal as agent of the board.
So moved. Second. Motion made and seconded to approve Katherine Cabral as agent of the board of health. All in favor? I I unanimous. Thank you. Um next I think we had tenatively suggested a reschedule date already for
um this September 1st which would be Labor Day meeting. Um and I just wanted to make sure that we are all I think you people had to check their calendar. So, we had proposed August I mean, excuse me, September 3rd at 4 p.m. So, moving
it from Monday to Wednesday. Is that for me? Okay. I think that's okay. Okay. Well, we'll go ahead and um uh take a motion to reschedule the September 1st meeting to September 3rd
at the same time, 4 p.m. So moved. Second. All in favor? I unanimous. Thank you. Um, moving on to board member updates. Just to say sometimes there's Wednesday night meetings. I'm going to have to check the calendar to make sure this room's not booked and make sure there's
no other meeting going on. Okay. Well, yeah. If there's a problem, I'll get back to you. If there's no problem, then you won't hear from me. Okay. Okay. Usually later in the day, though, right? Yeah. Usually 6:30. Okay. Board member updates. Anybody want
to go first? Um, I think that's you can report on police out. Yes, it was. Um, I thought it went really well. First of all, kudos to the police department for pulling that together and there was a really good
turnout. Um, as far as the opioid settlement fund advisory committee survey, we were able to get 40 people at the event to complete the survey. Um, my understanding is that there were some that were going to turn them in. And I don't know if we received any in the
board of health. They said they were going to drop them off to the board of health. There was some that were left in the cubby down here that I had given to Nancy to put in an envelope for you. So, she might have those upstairs. So, maybe a little over 40 um surveys were completed which is very helpful and
we were very I think the incentive was um uh was helpful but uh some people opted to not take it and just fill out a survey which I thought was great. So, so it was successful and we were able to hand out NRCAM and do some education. We
did a lot of education about what um the advisory committee is about um and about the funds because I had a spreadsheet of how much money we have and people looked at that and said we have that much money to spend. I says and we're getting more. Um, and now we have I received a new um
announcement um about the uh Sackler um family. Um they their suit the settlement and we're getting more too almost $100,000 more into the pot. Um I'm not sure how that's going to come in and when that's going to come in, but we'll have over a million dollars by
2038. So we can do some good stuff. and and I'm happy that um we do have the superintendent of schools who's going to be on the committee. So, I'm hoping to get some of the funds um um for the the students at uh the middle high school
and even the elementary school. So, great. Thank you very much. Well, I guess the only thing I can think of is that the Pine Ridge State Saga should be closing tomorrow when the ZVA is
meeting. Um and uh some of the most recent um draft of the comprehensive permit included the language
uh related to the conditions for uh the the perk test of um uh which I think will if not get this applicant get a subsequent applicant to either achieve
30 or get as close to um 30 minutes per um you know as as feasible. Um and then when I read the this most recent draft, it had provisions for
um operation and responsibility for operation and maintenance of the storm water system by the applicant and the homeowners association, but they didn't say anything about uh
the shared septic system. So I got them to amend the permit to include that which will be helpful when an application actually comes in because the regulations require a financial
assurance mechanism uh for shared systems and so this kind of creates a framework for that. So, uh, I'm expecting that the permit will be approved. Um, but we'll see what
happens. So, I'm going to go there. Okay. Um, so I have a couple of updates. Um, first off, uh, as you know, we voted at town meeting to support to provide or town meeting voted to support funding
for a household hazardous waste day. and I have a tentative date of March 28th, 2026 um for that. Um and I have a verbal okay to do it at the behind the old high
school as we did um a few years ago. Um so there'll be lots of planning associated with that, but um we're we're just trying to lock in the date. I know that there um Saturdays I don't want to do. He offered me Wednesdays. Too many
people are working. They can't come. Um so Saturdays are very limited. So that's why I was like trying to get on the docket early. Um so there's that. Um I uh know or I looked up um I know the
Cape is in um moderate drought status. Not the rest the rest of the state is not yet, but the drought advisory committee doesn't meet again until September. But if my yard is any indication, it's getting pretty dry out there. So, um I think we should remind
people about limiting watering and you know, we don't have the legal basis to do that yet. There's no drought declaration, but people should be proactive around that because um I don't know if we had any reports of wells running dry yet. Well, that's good. Um
so, that's just a um I'll the next drought committee meeting is not till September. So I didn't see a whole lot of rain in the forecast. So people should just be mindful um because we don't want wells running dry. Um
um started so follow up from our working meeting. Um, I started um putting together the list based on our priority areas for um outreach to homeowners about um we don't know your septic status and if it's an old home
could be accessessible. Um so I think I've done about 40 or 50. Um Katherine is actually um just going back to the files to verify that we still don't have any information. So that's sort of a pi going to be a pilot group and um she'll
help me with continuing to work on that. Um also we talked about um two amendments to the septic regulation. One around um um the total nitrogen testing requirement just having the first two
years and and um the default being no further testing unless um something comes up. Um, where's the other one? Oh, the ADU um um accessory dwelling unit, the definition. So, I've drafted some
proposed changes wording to the rig, but I haven't had a chance to go over that with Matt. So, probably sometime in September, we'll do a hearing around that. I'll share it with you obviously beforehand. Um, and the last thing I wanted to mention, um, in case you're not aware, um, Corin Peterson, who was
the, um, vice president of advocacy at the Buzz Bay Coalition 20 years or so, um, has just left her position. She left on Friday. I was there at a leadership meeting. Um and she has been a real
great support to the board of health um around the reg development around mapping cess poolools um just around trying to get support for funding or strategies for funding um septic
upgrades. They worked hard on the um sewer line extension trying to make the case for that. So it'll be a real loss. Um but I just let folks know that she has moved on um and hopefully they'll find a equally um
strong person to take on that role um going forward because they have been a real resource and support for us. Okay. Um, you're also reminding me about one of the things that was on the agenda for me to do, which I've already pulled the dog
um pulled the policy to take a look at it. I'm going to meet with try to schedule a time with Matt to meet and look at it. Okay, great. Um um actually um since we have a minute or two before the meeting before our 4:30
hearing and the chair or a member at least of the beach committee is here so we can ask can we ask him about how dogs on the beach have been this year because I know we haven't haven't had that animal control. I can give you I can give you an answer. Uh there's been a certain problem at
certain times. It's mostly the morning and there's still the perception that long as lifeguards out there, you can bring you're okay to bring a dog, right? The fortunate or best thing is there hasn't been a lot of
nesting this year. So there's not a lot of disruption in that area. Actually, most of the testing is actually on private beaches. Uh but there are there were two pair I think one that's failed I think that's the last report from but they're still seeing people in the morning particularly
it seems to be people in the area more than anything else uh cuz they don't seem to be parking there because I'm opening the gates and there's no cars there. So my guess is it's neighborhood where they found a good place to park. Okay.
Um, just we're we're looking at our um s called the sanitary dog regulation which is very old in town and trying to clean that up. So just was wondering how that was going in the beach. Yeah, I mean it surprisingly that part of it picking up
back to themselves. People have been very good uh this year. Better than usual, but uh I I don't know if that's lack of number or lack of, you know, people. All right. All right. Great. Thank you for that update. I'm sorry impromptu. No problem.
Take advantage of your presence. Uh okay. Um we're uh I'm going to call a 4:30m variance hearing uh which was continued from two weeks ago. Um, NEC Engineering, Sean Leech representing
for 147E Cadmin's Neck. You can stay um seated. Um Roland Sullivan L two bedroom repair with Elgen on a 345t lot which actually we are going to propose a continuous for
um because the the plan didn't come in until late Thursday afternoon and we have received no written guidance as to what exactly changed on that. So it's really hard to evaluate. Okay. So you'd like to give a a overview um but we will need to
continue since we haven't really been able to fully evaluate. Well, the only thing that was required was some uh wording on the varianage required uh requirement of site meet required for setback septic and leech fields required
as well due to property setbacks and due to the fact that this is a very small lot essentially and I think that was requested at the previous uh uh for this particular well because small lot obviously we were fortunate to
be able to fit a septic system with demite and everything as as requested. Uh but we have to move the well otherwise the well which was 15 ft from it existing cess poolool not a good not a good idea for obvious reasons. So we're moving the well and
we're getting being cabinet me being cabinet neck uh because it's a very tight area you can't get 100 ft from everybody else's well it's just physically impossible. Has the well location moved from the last plan? It was shown on the original on this
plan, but I think there was a request for the note, my understanding. Yeah, I think we haven't had a chance to fully review it because we didn't get an updated cover sheet with I think there are fewer variances, but it it's it's
not clear. Um, so um I think we will need to vote on it in two weeks. Um but I what I un um um so what I would appreciate is a description of what has changed. So you
you can give us a variable description but we don't follow. Yeah. So basically we shifted over the um proposed well maybe couple feet just to show that um requirement of 10 feet off the property line. Um and then we
also took out some LUA requirements um based off of our last hearing of the 75 versus 50 and that was the only thing that has changed other than the verbiage of the variance required section that we added. Okay. So so the well has been moved um
from um the prior loc from what just to show the uh the setbacks um yeah to meet to meet the 10 foot setback. Correct. Okay. Yep. Um what was the abs concern? I remember I believe uh one of the abusers is here.
Yeah, that was my concern. Yeah. So the concern is his well is inside his house and the concern is I guess you can speak to the concern. I all I brought up was is that there was a requirement for 10 ft from the property line.
Therefore preventing or helping minimize Okay. So, it is now 10 ft from the property line and that that request has been dropped from the list. Okay. Um uh let me just we because we didn't get
a an updated a narrative explaining what had changed. It's really hard to evaluate. Uh there's a lot of information on one sheet with no um description. I mean the narrative description for the variance request is the generic language. So it wasn't clear
which one's been dropped from like you know your cover letter outlines exactly which what requests are making. So it's hard for us to make a motion because we don't know which ones uh have have changed.
Yeah. I don't have a list of like like the original cover list like this showing what you need and but what we what we were question just a narrative explaining the ch change because I didn't quite understand the
change um but now I do but I didn't understand it because I didn't there was nothing for me to to review it with so okay so there's nothing we can do tonight is what you're saying well let me um let me see What other board members um are you comfortable
with the verbal explanation? Um I just I am but with we could approve with the condition that they present the cover letter and map. So I'd be okay if you guys voted and if
you guys all voted to approve it tonight condition that you just send me the list I can review it just to be the final. Yeah, this looks good and then and then just move it on from that way. Okay. Yeah, I'm fine because two of them
really dropped off the waiver list and then just the only thing substantively is adjusting the distance from the property line and so yeah, I think we could do it. Well, is somebody able to make that motion with all the condition all the
leas and oh conditions? I'm not ready. Would this help? I think this might be the most updated one, but you'd have to minus the two off that they dropped off. [Music]
You can indicate which ones what has changed. Okay. Uh but n eight n ones haven't changed. So we request all. Okay. So uh that be simpler or
there might be something on the back too. Yes. You marked um NA for the 8 and9 not applicable 8 and N and uh 13 and 14 I guess are the are the minimum setback
requirements from property and those are eliminated. Yes. So not applicable. So we have uh instead of 14 we would have 10. Is that correct? Yes.
Um because I think the plan stage I thought I can weather so there's no wet weather issues here. This is a center center. All the setbacks are basically well
setbacks too. And regarding uh above site, well uh basically what it all looks like. So it um because all of these are um the
uncorrected ones are in the existing plan. Would you submit uh a plan that has all these corrected in it? Because this plan is corrected. Okay. Okay. All right. The new plan is the corrected plan.
But that so we don't have the full All we have is what you emailed us, right? Right. Cuz I don't think you need to drop off new plans. Nancy asked us to to email it for to put in your packet for the review and then bring the five copies of the existing plan tonight.
Okay. All right. To the vote. Okay. So, just check your stamped revised plans. Yeah. The latest date on this plan is uh 8th
of August, 2025. 66. The variances are 46. So the one on the Let me just So
this one on my screen has an April 1st date and a June 10th date. It doesn't have a August date. You should have a variance comments number three. Would this help, Phil? Oh, I'm not on this plan. I'm just saying what's on the Oh, yeah.
It's on. Okay. So, so we have a revised plan so we could act on the plan. I was just Okay. That should be the one that should be in your tablet. That's the one that Nancy uploaded from their email. Okay. Yeah, it should be. It should be. Okay. Well, it's not the August 8th date
is not in is is what is not in the Okay. What was here, but my comment was is what you're saying is that these are the are the corrected. Yes. Okay. So, and in the past all we've done
is say that that we approve the when we have had these many um waivers that we have just say that we approve the waivers as set out in the plan.
Well, I'm trying to verify. So, let me just So, but it's not going to be easier. It's not there because if we're looking at the same plan, it isn't it isn't August update. There should be a revision three above
the title block that says August. I know, but it's not there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not there. Yeah, it's in the hard copy here, but on the hard plan, but it's not here on the pages. separations. Okay.
Okay. Property line the 147E cabinets neck is still on the list in your plan, but you were just telling me it was not applicable. So, oh, on the leech field. So, that one's fine. Yeah.
Yeah, that one's fine. The You only get moved the leech field is always hasn't moved yet. It's always had a request for less than 5 ft. Right. Only the well has moved to meet the requirement of the 10 foot. Okay. So the leech field is still the 4.36. Correct.
Okay. So that's not that is applicable. And then 1.63 the leech field. Okay. Property line to septic tank. Leech field. Leech septic. Okay. Okay. And then um the other I mean I
don't know. Do you want to I'm comfortable just referencing the ones on the on the um plan at this point because there's so many and it's not productive I think to list them all. Yeah. It was just referenced the revised
August 8th plans. Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's revised August 8th but stamped 812. Okay. Yes. It's stamp. You signed 812.
Yeah. But when we refer to the plan date, we refer to the date that the plan was prepared. Okay. Okay. Is somebody prepared to make a motion? Um so I'm just um so um so it needs
concom review. It needs the local waiverss that are set out in the plan. It needs a hold harmless agreement. It needs well testing at the well and done at the No, but the three years of
three years of well testing and I'm not going to Okay. And uh Okay. I can I can Okay. So, all right. So, I will try and then I know people will correct me. All right. So I will move to approve the
plan at for Roland Sullivan LE at 147E Cabinet's Neck Road subject to a conservation commission approval. Uh a um how many bedrooms? Two
a twobedroom deed restriction. uh local upgrade waiverss as set out in the plan dated August 8th uh 2025. uh uh 3 years of well testing
for the properties at uh 147E, 147G, 161 Cadmin's Neck, 147D Cadmin's Neck, and 147 F Cadman's
Neck and a hold harmless agreement. Okay. Second. Motion made and seconded to approve the project for 137 ecat with those conditions. Is it is it other condition a letter
that has all that written on it for Matt or not? It's there right there. Um I I think we have it on the plan for you. Okay. I I have it outlined here. I think that's Well, that's an older list, but um I'm fine with it. It's all on the plan.
That's fine. Okay. Um motion made and seconded to approve the project at 147e cabin neck road with those conditions. All in favor? That's unanimous and you got them all. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Is this ours? This is ours. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Thanks. All right. Uh 4:40 p.m. temporary tight tank. Um this is for the 446 Union app. Um which was continued from August 4th
um meeting about installing a temporary tank bank tank until the existing failed septic system is replaced. Matt, give you Yeah. So, we spoke with D or I spoke with D and um we sent the engineer and the property owner an email saying that
this can't that just can't be done that they need to submit a plan um for us to review for a uh conventional or an IIA septic system um for the board to review. So, you said this could not happen. Yeah. So, the the appointment we did
send the engineer and the owner telling him that the um appointment tonight was canceled and we did that la earlier last week. Okay. All right. So, um we don't have to take a vote on anything. So,
no. And there's um nothing to really continue and we haven't received anything yet from any feedback or correspondence or any acknowledgement from our emails to them. Should we do a formal vote to deny the titan based on guidance from D?
Do we need to do that? There was never really a a plan in front of it, but that is the core part of it was it was the plan was based on the ability to install a tight tank and then subsequently at some future date to
install a septic system and title 5 is very restrictive on when tight tanks can be used and Matt reviewed what would have been proposed and the EP said that that was not permittable under title five. Right. when they were there the here the last time it was a discussion we asked
them to submit formal plans with you know actual figures and everything and they did but it never made it back to the board to vote on because between now and then it would just just can't be done so that way okay um
okay then we can yeah so I think we just have to wait for a you know a septic system to talk to. Sorry. Um, okay. Um, I think we can probably proceed a few minutes early with the
4:50 p.m. hearing because I'm sure there's nobody notification on this one. Um, um, so I'll call the hearing for uh, 33 Newton Street, Raymond and Rosemary, Korea. represented by Zenith Engineering. Nile Zler is that Zer
Zer typo for our titles. Um three-bedroom repair with a Presby um soil absorption system on a 19,960 foot lot. Um we did not get this on our
tablet, so I have to look at it. Just for clarity, um Zenith could not be here, but they they gave I was going to explain. Okay. Were you okay? So, I'm not Niles. I'm James Agricoff. I'm the lead uh
consultant. Correct. Okay. Um I'm not here to try to replace Niles or anyone from Zenith, but they all had other obligations. Niles asked me if I would please come and so I'm here. It's a pretty straightforward plan. Uh the design was chosen for several reasons. Uh the backyard is very
maturely treed and the new owners were beating against a mounding system. So we tried to work this very and uh fortunately the soils were pretty favorable there. Water table wasn't as we expected. But with a uh presby we
still need a pump but with a presby we can reduce the mounting significantly and save the mature trees. So, it would be really it would fit the property. It would fit the neighborhood. We don't need any well setback waiverss or anything. So, um it's a pretty it's a
pretty good design. And the only LUA is the um freshman. Yeah. distance between the inlets and the right high ground a little bit and even at that we might make it but it's so close that we didn't want to get the the waiver and then not you know not
meet that on the as built okay so just one point of clarification but maybe it's there is so when I was looking um on the plan because it's there's a lot of information on that one sheet
a very yeah densely packed plan saving trees. Uh, no, I I didn't see anywhere um as to what the um numerical,
you know, what's the number that you wanted the waiver from? Uh 12 to 10 in or 1 in or Yeah. I uh and because usually we would it would either either be in the plan or that we would say you know that the
there you know there should be a 12-in situation but in this case it's going to be something less and I just couldn't find that on the plan. I don't know. So I I had a discussion with Niles. I think the number is dimminimous. It's very very small. Okay. However um we did not perk in that area for obvious reasons because the tanks
were there. The existing system was there. Okay. So Nile as as a as a precautionary measure feels that the modeling may run with the topo. So it may get shallower there and that's why he was looking for the waiver. Okay. Okay. So do we want to say up to how much?
Yeah. Um well I think the waiver is because we can't meet the 12 in requirement. So um I think we'll probably I think we're going to meet that but if we don't we might be within a few inches maybe six inches. So let's say six. Yeah, we use six.
Well, the the regulation sets a sets a maximum, right? I mean minimum. A minimum. Must have been reading something different. I thought it was much closer than that. You could go I think you can go to zero. Yeah, you can go to zero.
You can go to zero as long as you go to zero. Okay. As long as it's a watertight connection. Y Okay. All right. So, so then it's not a I'm raising a concern that's not really a concern. Okay. Not, but as long as you meet the buoyancy calculations and the uh it's a
watertight connection, it can be submerged. Mhm. Right. Okay. All right. Since I don't have the plan in front of me, Matt, am I wrong to say that there's only one that has an it's an inch separation and then there's others that are less than an inch? We've had ones that are an inch.
Oh, inch. We have had ones at a zero. Yes. side. Okay. From the tank, I think I had.77 and then one was one uh 002 in and then the pump was 73 and the other one was 48. Mhm.
I hope the asbuilt will show that it exceeds the 12 in. And I I feel confident it will. We just we don't want to get into it and then submit an asbuilt and then we have to come back after the fact. Okay. Okay. Um I have one request, Mr. Agier, if you could pass on to Zena. um if they
could update their um statement about complying with the title 5, they're still referencing 2016. Okay. And they could just take the date out. Current just say current title five would be fine. So noted. Thank you. And they can just annotate.
Okay. Just one other request. Since there is a signature line under that statement, they have them sign and date it. Otherwise, just take out the signature line and date. Okay. Um, so I believe we're ready to proceed to a motion.
Okay. So, I move that we approve the plans um for 33 dated 795. That's the revision for three-bedroom repair. um with the variance of a reduction in
separation between the inlet and outlet T's from the high ground water. Um and I know it's going to be less than 12, but you're hoping six say six. Um uh and then with about additional
harmless and a three-bedroom deep restriction, I believe it had a concom stamp on it. Yeah. Okay. Second motion made and seconded to approve the project at 33 Newton Street with those conditions. All in favor?
Thank you very much. Thank you tomorrow. Is that possible? Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Um so um topics or anything unanticipated or anything for the next regular meeting?
No. No further business. I move that we adjourn this meeting at 4:56 p.m. Second. All in favor? That's unanimous. Everyone, happy night.