WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=dXqhVpN7IVg NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: dXqhVpN7IVg): - 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order, Agenda and Minutes Approval - 00:02:53: Rebecca Haney from CZM presents the MyCoast Program - 00:15:24: Committee Discussion about MyCoast Integration into Report - 00:15:57: Public Comment: Jim asks about tide chart data sources - 00:16:47: Public Comment: Question about king tides definition - 00:18:08: Public Comment: Alert system for higher than expected tides - 00:19:15: Public Comment: Support for citizen science and data collection - 00:23:25: Public Comment: Drone Operators' Potential Contribution - 00:24:30: Introductory Letter Review and Report Template Update - 00:30:16: Risk Assessment and Ranking Methodology Discussion - 00:32:09: Template Review and Clarifications on Report Content - 00:35:23: Recommendations, Action Items and Resilient Stories Inclusion - 00:37:57: Public Comment: Report Format (Digital and Printed) Discussions - 00:41:45: River Days Presentation and Report Collaboration - 00:48:58: Motion to Adjourn the Meeting Part: 1 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:16.560 then we can get on the way. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:16.560 --> 00:00:32.800 >> All right, we are meeting as the Westport Climate Resilience Committee. Um and thank you Dia for sending out uh an agenda, minutes and a lot of other 3 00:00:32.800 --> 00:00:52.640 materials. Um and uh the agenda has a uh presentation by Rebecca Haney from CZM. um after we uh approve the minutes which should be interesting and relevant to 4 00:00:52.640 --> 00:01:10.799 our discussions. Um and then other items as this report uh continues uh to make its way to the um uh submission line. I won't say finish line cuz work's never finished, but 5 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:26.960 submission line. and we're getting closer and closer all the time. And so we're going to review a a few pieces of that. But is this agenda okay with people? Does anyone want to add anything to it or move anything 6 00:01:26.960 --> 00:01:45.840 around because of time constraints? I think when we get into the um chapter 7 templates, I'll go to historic resources first, Wendy, because you said you have you want to leave for another obligation. 7 00:01:45.840 --> 00:02:03.119 Uh but other than that, uh I'll uh deem this agenda as approved. And we do have a quorum. Uh we have 19 official members, quorums 10 and we have 10 here. So thank you all 8 00:02:03.119 --> 00:02:20.160 for making the effort to to get here. Um uh DIA also sent out minutes from both u uh February 12th and March 12th. Uh we weren't able to approve minutes at the last meeting because we didn't have a 9 00:02:20.160 --> 00:02:37.360 quorum, but um I've read both of them and I I as far as I can tell they're accurate and and complete. Does anyone have any errors or omissions or could I get a motion to approve? >> Move to accept. >> Second. 10 00:02:37.360 --> 00:02:53.120 >> And was that to accept both of them? Okay. Uh moved by Jim White and second by Shauna. Any discussion? Uh all in favor say I. Opposed. I >> the uh minutes are approved. Uh thank you. 11 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:11.440 Uh now uh next we're going to have Rebecca Haney from uh CZM. Uh thank you for being with us and uh would you explain the my coast uh uh 12 00:03:11.440 --> 00:03:27.200 program? >> Sure, I can do that. Is it possible for me to share my screen? Is everybody going to be able to see that? >> Yes, >> we were hoping so. >> Okay, just check to turn off the lights. >> Okay, maybe. 13 00:03:27.200 --> 00:03:45.760 >> Yeah. Yeah, we'll turn the lights off so we get a little better contrast up on the screen. If if you want to turn your lights off at home, uh use your own judgment on that. >> You can play along with us if you want. 14 00:03:45.760 --> 00:04:09.319 >> Me is a little different. >> It's the little box on the bottom with the arrow in the middle. It just see it's not giving me the option. >> D might have to let you. >> Okay. 15 00:04:10.640 --> 00:04:25.360 Usually have to let somebody be a >> Yeah, usually it just allows you to >> I don't usually have to make people >> Are you sure, Rebecca? Um, it's next to >> It's the one in the middle right there. It just passed it. There we go. Sorry. 16 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:46.560 >> Is there an off this will work? >> Yes. Perfect. Thank you. >> You You got it now. Can we get it full screen? >> There you go. >> Perfect. >> We can all see that. 17 00:04:46.560 --> 00:05:02.479 So my coast is something that um we originally started to help um with a number of different efforts and it's expanded quite a bit. Um we started initially trying to help inform 18 00:05:02.479 --> 00:05:18.240 emergency response. Um but this has morphed into an app as well as an online database. And we have three different tools in my host. One is focused on storm reporting, one is focused on 19 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:35.919 documenting the effects of the higher than normal tide, king tides, and another is monitoring uh restoration projects along shoreline restoration projects. So, initially it was developed to help with response and recovery. We 20 00:05:35.919 --> 00:05:51.120 created it um to help standardize some of the real-time reporting of coastal storm damages. Um and that was used by the MIMA data emergency operations center to get a sense of what the damages were on the ground. Um it was a 21 00:05:51.120 --> 00:06:08.479 lot lot more efficient um than people calling in reports which you can imagine. Um so that was the original um basis but we have expanded this and the online database is now used to help with um some of our coastal resilience 22 00:06:08.479 --> 00:06:24.240 projects as well as communities use this for planning purposes um to help document what are the the effects of pink tides and storms. Where is the flooding occurring? Because it all goes into this online database. anybody can 23 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:41.280 access the information and use it for planning, education, outreach purposes. So, the some of the things that are important to think about, I'm going to show you what the app looks like and how to enter a report, but you want to make sure that you know you're only going out 24 00:06:41.280 --> 00:06:58.160 when it's safe. We don't want people um getting themselves or their their vehicles damaged in the process. Um it is important to have, you know, some some landmarks that you can identify in the photo. Um there's been a few photos 25 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:13.440 that have come in that it's very hard to tell where it is. And so it's always good to be able to to get some um something in there that you can um identify. And having something for scale is also helpful. 26 00:07:13.440 --> 00:07:28.319 So the the once you sign up for an account online, you can download the My Coast app. Um and this is what the screen looks like on your phone. Um it provides the um the tide uh chart of the 27 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:45.759 closest tide gauge. And then you simply click on add a report. And there's a a menu up here in the upper left um that does give you some options in terms of the settings um tie tides and other 28 00:07:45.759 --> 00:08:03.120 tools. Um but if you want to just go um you can also set up a reminder to know when the next high tide's going to be so that you can get out there and get those pictures. Um but you can also just click on add a report. Um down near the bottom 29 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:18.560 there are three tools um that you're going to see primarily which is storm reporter. That's our um tool for reporting storm impacts, the king tides tool for reporting the highest tides and the effect of those and the coaster 30 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:34.080 resilience tool. So you would just select um if you're trying to document the king tide, select that tool and then it takes you to a screen where you either take a photo or upload one from your phone. Um there is also a video 31 00:08:34.080 --> 00:08:51.120 option for limited size. Um and once you take that photo um it will take the information from your phone for the date and the time and then it will ask you to set the location. And so it's a matter of um 32 00:08:51.120 --> 00:09:07.680 zooming in on the screen to make sure location is correct. Depends on your cell reception as to how well that does at picking the location. Um sometimes it needs a little refinement. So you can scroll around there um to modify that. 33 00:09:07.680 --> 00:09:24.959 Move the pin and then you just hit submit. Um, if you are in an area with weak cell reception, you may have to leave the app open um, till you get some good reception or reopen it once you do to get it to completely upload the report. 34 00:09:24.959 --> 00:09:42.480 So, we also have a storm reporter tool that I mentioned that has a little bit more to it than just taking a photo. You can enter different types of impacts um that have to do with either roads, marinas, harbors, natural resource 35 00:09:42.480 --> 00:09:56.720 impacts. There's a lot of different categories of impacts. Um and I can send you a link to some more detailed training on that if you're interested. Um, I did want to give you a quick demo 36 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:18.680 of the uh the online tool itself so that you can see. So, I think I need to stop sharing and switch screens here and I'm less familiar with sorry 37 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:47.880 switching here. Sorry, Google Meet is not my usual. >> No, I know it is. >> All right. How do I switch this? All right. 38 00:10:51.600 --> 00:11:08.800 I just share screen and switch windows. Can you see the website? >> Yes, we can. >> Great. So, you don't have to have an account um to go to the website. It's myost.org. Massachusetts 39 00:11:08.800 --> 00:11:25.760 has a number of tools set up on the myost site. Um and you can go search reports. Um, so there's a tab up here at the top where you can search and it will pull up all of the reports that have 40 00:11:25.760 --> 00:11:44.160 been submitted uh for Massachusetts. And I'll show you how you can sort those. It's just taking a minute to load. That's what happens with real time demos as we get to see how the system functions. So this is pulling up all the Massachusetts reports and you can scroll 41 00:11:44.160 --> 00:11:59.680 down here and filter these reports. So, if we wanted to just look at reports submitted for Westport, for example, there's been 113 reports submitted for Westport. 42 00:11:59.680 --> 00:12:17.360 Um, you can filter by report type. So, we have storm reports or king tide reports. So, you can um if I just select the king tide reports, it's going to bring up basically a list of these reports. the map will show where they've been 43 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:32.639 submitted um locations and you can either click on those um icons on the map or this has thumbnails with the date, time um and the type of report. So if we look at this first one for 44 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:49.760 example, it when it pulls up the report, it shows the photos. This is from East Beach. It shows you the tide and the actual versus the predicted tide. Um, gives you the time 45 00:12:49.760 --> 00:13:08.959 it was taken. And so you can see how far the water had gotten up at the most recent tide. Um, and this was pretty close to the top of the tide. So this there's you can and these information as part of submitting um the the report 46 00:13:08.959 --> 00:13:27.120 people sign off on everybody else being able to use these for educational purposes, planning purposes and so these resources are available. You can also once you've searched um you can download the reports um so that's also an option. 47 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:43.040 So there's a lot of information available. You can search by dates. Um so if you wanted to narrow your your um search um you can narrow it by date. So there's a lot of information on the website. We are um very interested in 48 00:13:43.040 --> 00:14:00.880 getting more people to help um submit reports and document the effects of increasing high tides. It helps if you're documenting a local landmark. Um, this can be very helpful for local education on what the the 49 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:17.600 effects of increasing tides are over time. And you can also so once you download that onto your phone, then you can also turn on notifications so that when we're we sometimes will send out requests specifically telling people there's 50 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:34.399 going to be a king tide coming up. Please please um go out if you can, but you can always keep an eye on the local tide chart. Um, some of the the highest tides of the month are coming up the middle of May, the week of the 17th, 18th, and 19th. There are some really 51 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:50.720 high tides coming up. Um, so you can look at your tide chart, figure out when those tides are forecasted to be and and trying to document at the time of high tide or even capturing in these photos, you could see how how high the tide had 52 00:14:50.720 --> 00:15:07.360 gotten based on just the wet dry line. Um, so there's a lot of um a lot of versatility there and and I'm happy to to take questions and it was a quick overview. I can also send you a link to 53 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:24.320 a more detailed training if you want to read um listen to more on the different tools. >> Uh thank you uh very much Rebecca that was uh concise and and very helpful. And before I just turn to the committee for 54 00:15:24.320 --> 00:15:41.680 questions, uh Jeff and Dia, is this tool something that you know we can devote a page to in the report so people get uh a brief explanation of what it offers and then links that they can then start to 55 00:15:41.680 --> 00:15:57.440 play around and and then start to input reports. Um, I'll answer. I I think uh, you know, we could have an appendix with tools like this, including this um, >> and explanation example. I think that would be a great idea. 56 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:14.480 >> Okay. All right. Uh, any questions? Yeah, Jim. >> Yeah. Uh, Rebecca, you had uh said when you're showing the tide chart at first that it shows uh, the expected tide and the real tides. 57 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:31.440 How do you get that information? >> That's that is being pulled directly from the closest tide gauge. >> So that is is real time data that the um my post is pulling from in that case for 58 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:47.759 the Westport reports. Um the closest tide gauge was in Bedford and so it is pulling the water levels the predicted as well as the observed straight from the um 59 00:16:47.759 --> 00:17:05.039 page. >> Thank you. This looks great. >> Um I have a question that I think I now know the answer to but I didn't for a long time and maybe others don't as well. What is a king tide? Is that something that can be predicted or is that something that is just designated 60 00:17:05.039 --> 00:17:20.319 after the fact? >> So the um I I did keep the the presentation pretty short, but you have a range of tides over a month and the height of the tides has to do with the 61 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:35.600 um how close we are the alignment between the sun and the moon. And so at certain times of the month towards the new moon um we usually have higher than normal tides and lower than normal tides. And so the tide range is more and 62 00:17:35.600 --> 00:17:52.640 so the king tides are are some of the highest tides of the year um that you're going to see um the effects of sea level rise for example you're going to start to see those more in the king tides. You'll start to see tides getting further landward than you've seen over 63 00:17:52.640 --> 00:18:08.559 time. That's one way of documenting the effects of sea level rise is just documenting those summer um not summer the sunny day flooding um it's also referring to that is just the effect of higher than normal high tides 64 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:23.039 >> and you might have said this but I missed it if so is there a way of getting an alert that uh higher than expected tide is coming >> so you you can um and in the app there 65 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:40.799 is a way of setting up a an alert. Um we don't specifically flag all the the king tides, but occasionally what we will do is um for some of the higher king tides, we will send out an alert to our members 66 00:18:40.799 --> 00:18:57.840 and ask for reports. But it is this it's something that you can look at your your tide gauge and look at what your normal um average is and see what your um when they're predicted to be higher than normal high 67 00:18:57.840 --> 00:19:15.600 tides. And so you know when I look at a a tide chart um it's showing me the range of tides and it's it says what the height of the tide's going to be. And so sometimes it's only getting to, if I'm looking at the Boston one for example, a 68 00:19:15.600 --> 00:19:30.960 lot of times it's only getting to 10 ft. When it gets to 12, those are usually king tides. >> So just more than yours down there. I I would just in Westport an easy way to do that is to get one of the Westport River 69 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:47.679 Watershed Association calendars which not only has beautiful photographs but you see this uh sign curve that goes through every day and you can see by the height and depth of the sign curve uh 70 00:19:47.679 --> 00:20:04.640 which are the king the predicted king tides and as Rebecca said they line up with new moons and full moons cuz that's what causes the tides. Um, and I I I really think Rebecca, this is fantastic 71 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:22.000 because I am a believer in in citizen science and a predicted, you know, the calendar's put together a a year in advance and the predicted king tide is based on neutral wind, but if you have a 72 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:39.280 lot of onshore wind, it's going to push a lot of water into the river and then you're going to get departures from what's predicted. And so if if this app is as fun as it looks to be, then people 73 00:20:39.280 --> 00:20:54.320 are going to be out there at King Tides taking pictures and entering reports and uh they're going to start to get uh fuller and fuller data set with 74 00:20:54.320 --> 00:21:10.640 photographs of what King's Tides look like on East Beach Road or River Road or the other roads that flood and you know I worked for Noah for a long time and Kathy Sullivan my boss said Noah is the 75 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:27.120 environmental information agency that is Noah gives you information what you do with it it's up to you you know you decide whether to take an umbrella to work uh Noah doesn't tell you that but what this is going to do is give people 76 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:44.400 information so that in some cases it affects private decision making if if you're in a place where your house uh is subject to uh uh sunny day flooding. Uh in other cases, it's the town that 77 00:21:44.400 --> 00:22:00.559 starts to look at at infrastructure the town has like the docks at Westport Point which flood uh frequently and uh make decisions based on that. So, but but the key is if this is fun and easy to use, then people are going to be 78 00:22:00.559 --> 00:22:19.039 using this app every month and filling out more and more documentation, which is really uh useful to look at as people have to make decisions whether they're uh on the select board or whether they're just an individual 79 00:22:19.039 --> 00:22:34.960 homeowner or someone who likes using a beach. >> Right. And this is something that the committee and town officials can consider using when you're trying to help with outreach and and helping residents understand what the effects of 80 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:51.600 sea level rise are climate change. >> Being able to document what those tide changes are over time for known landmarks that they're used to seeing. Oh, this this road didn't used to flood or this area didn't used to get inundated. and they're seeing that 81 00:22:51.600 --> 00:23:08.400 that's happening more frequently. If you're doing that for those known landmarks, that can really help with your public education. I I think that's a really good point, Rebecca, that it's one thing to read about King Tides, you know, by the Boston Aquarium or in Maine 82 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:25.200 or what it's doing in in Nantucket, but if you see what it's doing in Westport, then it's it's uh much more relevant and much more real and it may uh be a much better educational tool. 83 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:41.840 >> Any other questions of Rebecca? I was just thinking too, we probably have some drone operators in Westport and if we could reach out to them and get them on board with this and send them an alert that, hey, there's going to be a high tide on this particular day. Would you mind >> doing a flight and >> documenting some of this stuff? 84 00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:56.799 >> I'm sure there I'm sure there are drone operators who are using this tool, Rebecca, >> not so much drone operators uh because we we have mostly photos that are being uploaded, not so much videos. Um but 85 00:23:56.799 --> 00:24:14.400 this is capturing those reports in different areas over time. >> And so it does help to have um you know the same picture taken over time at at that location and see how much water is rising at you know as as John said and 86 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:30.640 and the other gentlemen on some a landmark that you know and see what difference that is making over time. It makes climate change and sea level rise real for people when they can see it relative to something they know. >> Well, Rebecca, thank you. And I think 87 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:49.120 what we will do is uh my coast will find a a place uh in the report we're preparing uh as one way not the only way of course of uh publicizing this app because it does look pretty user 88 00:24:49.120 --> 00:25:07.039 friendly and um and I think it's going to be uh catch on with a lot of people. >> Great. I'm glad it was helpful. Thank you very much, Rebecca. >> Thank you. You're welcome. >> All right. Um, next item on the agenda, 89 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:23.919 um, is review introductory letter by John Bullard. Um I uh had written an introduction I don't know a year ago two years ago and um I decided based on some comments 90 00:25:23.919 --> 00:25:40.400 from people to take another stab at it putting the emphasis as Jeff has advised much more on resiliency. It's just one page. Half of it is thanking a lot of people. the the other half is just kind 91 00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:56.080 of why are we doing a report? What is resilience anyway? Um and so um and and Jeff took my report and then uh uh put it into an AI machine and said, "Can you 92 00:25:56.080 --> 00:26:13.039 clean this up a little bit?" Cuz you know, bullard. And so we have uh something that's been uh improved both in in words and layout, you know, bolding this or that um uh by 93 00:26:13.039 --> 00:26:31.600 who who do you use, Claude or Chad or >> GPT? >> GPT. Uh so uh Diah sent it out. She sent out an earlier one several days ago or yesterday and and then uh I made two 94 00:26:31.600 --> 00:26:50.080 minor suggestions. She incorporated those. Um one was in thanking Bay Coast to say Bay Coast Bank instead of just Bay Coast. And the other was in the um uh section on uh weather. It 95 00:26:50.080 --> 00:27:08.240 said uh um uh more rain causes drought, which is kind of uh not really true. Uh I had used the phrase hydraological cycle and uh AI 96 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:23.279 said no no no that's no one knows what that is. So, uh, we got we got to get a different phrase. So, what we're going with on that is a warmer atmosphere causes both drought and and flooding. 97 00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:41.520 But, if you've had time to look at that, um, uh, while it's the chairman's letter, I certainly want it to reflect uh, the the committee. Uh if you have any comments on it uh either now or later, please get 98 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:59.360 them to Dia and Jeff and uh that'll be another section that we can check off. It's done. >> Any questions on that? >> I like it. It's nicely done. >> Thank you, Shauna. >> I'm going home with that one. All right. 99 00:27:59.360 --> 00:28:15.679 >> Well, you just said you had help. >> I Yes, I did. Yeah, you should have seen what uh what Chad GPT had to start with, you know. Uh okay. Uh so we've uh re we've addressed that. But again, if 100 00:28:15.679 --> 00:28:32.320 people have com if they haven't had a chance to read it and you do read it and you have some comments, uh get them to Jeff and Dia. Now, fourth item on the agenda, idea again sent out 101 00:28:32.320 --> 00:28:47.679 um a couple of things. It's not on the agenda, but there is a um a kind of table that shows our progress um uh what sections of the report have 102 00:28:47.679 --> 00:29:03.279 been written uh and what sections remain to be written. and and you can see from that report we are really getting close to having a a complete report which is very encouraging. But what we wanted to 103 00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:20.000 do is um uh this effort to take uh subcommittee reports written by different subcommittees in different styles with different layouts, different font size, all of that and get it down into a 104 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:40.000 standard template. And so DIA has sent out uh the uh drafts on historic sites on uh uh infrastructure and public safety on uh health and water and I 105 00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:57.440 think you also sent out agriculture, right? >> So um water and agriculture aren't populated. So we kind of just have um historic sites, infrastructure and people at home. >> Okay. So, do you and Jeff want to go over um where we stand on that or what 106 00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:16.640 you're looking uh to the committee for on on those reports? >> Yeah. So, I think uh probably in the last two meetings we spent a fair bit of time on um the methodology and approach to evaluating these risks and ranking 107 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:32.720 them and we we got through all of that. we have all the rankings now. It's just a bunch of >> risks and and the rankings. Um but you know the next step was to develop an narrative to talk through what these risks are, why they were ranked high, medium and low, whatever. 108 00:30:32.720 --> 00:30:49.039 >> Um so that was uh done with the help of a template that we sent out. >> Uh and the ones we've got back look pretty good. So we're happy with how people have used those templates and it looks like we have two more to go. So >> So what are the two to go? It's going to 109 00:30:49.039 --> 00:31:05.520 be the water chapter and the agriculture chapter and folks are definitely welcome to reach out to me to workshop that together. Um I did that with Wendy today and we had a good time. So, >> so I know that uh that water had a meeting >> and that Mike Sullivan, who's giving a 110 00:31:05.520 --> 00:31:22.720 talk uh in in a bit and can't be at today's meeting with us, um had submitted uh something now, but it it's not what you wanted or what? >> No, they had so they actually had to um finalize their rankings. So, they 111 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:38.960 managed to do that in their meeting, but they might not have gone to the template. So, that's just for them. >> All right. So, we know they've done a lot of thought on it. It just hasn't gotten in the papers. So, that's pretty close. >> It's close. >> And what about with Joseph and Ray on 112 00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:53.279 agriculture? >> I'll have I'll have to connect with them personally. We don't reach out to them. >> Okay. >> Haven't had any. >> We could send them a couple of these ones that are already done as >> I think that's a great idea. >> They're relatively short. Three three four pages max. >> Yeah. >> And you know, Wendy and I were drawing 113 00:31:53.279 --> 00:32:09.760 from past writings that we've developed for the report. past sections, past matrices. So, um there's definitely that the content's already there. It's just piecing it together. >> Okay. >> Yep. >> Any uh comments on where we are so far? 114 00:32:09.760 --> 00:32:24.960 >> Only comment I have is that this um I haven't had a chance to read the ones you said today. They came late in the day and was busy. So, I order people to read. >> No, I'm I'm guilty too, Wendy. So my suggestion to people if you haven't had 115 00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:41.760 a chance to read it is uh make any comments on on it either track change or the way I do it which is handwrite on a hard copy because uh >> anything whatever works for you but get the comments 116 00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:58.000 >> and then get get those comments to Dia and Jeff. I I think uh you know it may be adjusting a uh a risk from medium to high or or whatnot. In your opinion, you think it it would be better at a 117 00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:15.200 different level. So, put that down. Um and cuz in the end I think all those levels need to be um reflect the entire committee not just the subcommittee that's dealing with it. 118 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:30.880 So if you want to elevate or deelevate one of those, put that down, get it to Jeff and and Dia and then they can figure out, oh god, what do we do now? If we have disagreement on this, how are we going to resolve that? But we hope 119 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:46.640 that the areas of disagreement might be a few, not a lot, and we can deal with that at a full committee meeting and say, "Hey, we've got an argument between medium high on this one. What do we think?" If we have to take a vote, we'll take a vote. 120 00:33:46.640 --> 00:34:02.480 >> John, the struggle that I had in in doing this, and I'm very deadline motivated. So, what noon? >> Yeah. >> We did this report, but I had quite a bit in that report that I wrote and submitted 121 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:19.599 >> July 2024 >> that doesn't fit in this format. I mean, there's not a place for it, I don't think, but I hate to lose Yeah, good point. >> content. So, how you know, and it'll get >> what's the nature of that material? 122 00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:33.440 >> Um, >> it's like goals and actions, so it's not going to get lost. Well, no, no, but um the thing I was thinking about specifically, and this is not town government necessarily, although there could be a place for town government, but 123 00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:50.879 >> in terms of um helping people who own historic properties in say flood zones or in the point where already pe somebody anyway, at least one person has has elevated their 124 00:34:50.879 --> 00:35:08.480 house and put it on a higher foundation because of the volume. But at any rate, um I got a whole bunch of information about what kinds of help uh or advice people should have. Um you know, things 125 00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:23.520 things to do or things things that property owners >> can think about um as they kind of get their property in resilient shape. >> Right. So what we're talking about now is, you know, the risks were ranked and 126 00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:40.240 here's here are the ones that were ranked high and here's some explanation of why. We next need to bring forward our recommendations, right? What are what are the actions that are available that we recommend to address these risks? So that's where I think we're going to pull some of that stuff. And some of the 127 00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:57.839 subcommittee reports did a good job of talking about actions. others kind of left it left it there and still need to be populated. So, one thing that we we have we did send out once I think is I went through and got all of the risks 128 00:35:57.839 --> 00:36:15.119 and then pulled the actions that were available from the subcommittee reports as well as went to a couple of clearing houses on climate resilience actions that are out there and pulled those in. So there is a a long list of actions 129 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:31.040 that we've identified and that others have identified elsewhere that could be candidates for inclusion in the recommended actions chapter which is kind of the next one we need to tee up. >> But they it it may be uh these templates 130 00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:48.960 are designed as I see it to be uh conform to each other in terms of layout length. They're all about three pages. Uh but the explanatory uh text that sets the table on each of 131 00:36:48.960 --> 00:37:06.480 these issues. Uh I agree with you Wendy that we don't want to lose that. And so the question is where does it appear? Does it appear in front of this section? I think of, you know, Joseph's report that he 132 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:21.839 described at the Graange, which is like 30 pages. >> All of it good. You You don't want to lose that. >> Yeah. >> But it's kind of different than the other ones. So, it's it's where do you 133 00:37:21.839 --> 00:37:39.359 put it so we don't lose it? It's still in the report. >> Yeah. And I think the stuff that I don't want to lose that isn't in what is circulated does go at the end in some kind of >> Yeah. >> to the extent you have a resilient story 134 00:37:39.359 --> 00:37:57.359 like somebody elevated their house or something that would make a great candidate for like a text box, you know, in the in the report somewhere. >> Yeah. >> And photographs if you've got them. >> Yeah. Well, I know the architect who did that project. Is that yet or what? Yeah, 135 00:37:57.359 --> 00:38:12.240 I think that >> can I ask a question? >> Yes. Uh, Mr. Chair, >> Mr. Chair. Yes. So, if the major output of this is going to be digital or is it going to be printed? 136 00:38:12.240 --> 00:38:27.520 And if it's digital, I don't see why in every chapter, click here for a deeper dive into how we got to where we are and other information. >> Yeah, I mean it could be um I don't know 137 00:38:27.520 --> 00:38:44.800 if we want to have kind of not >> it could happen in every >> unstructured material that's just kind of dumped somewhere that we point people to, but um yeah, there's certainly ways to point to other things. I mean, my guess, Jim, is that it'll be 138 00:38:44.800 --> 00:39:01.760 both that that we'll have a written report that gets submitted, but it it'll also be in a digital format. And one of the many advantages of digital is all the linking you can do, the hyperlinking you can do. And I I would suggest that 139 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:18.400 you make the written report the short one >> and and reference in the written report. If you want to have a deeper dive into all these different things, >> go on the website and go to the digital version. It has links. >> Yeah, 140 00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:35.040 >> good thought. All right. Uh what else do you want to um get out of us? I think that covers items four and five probably. >> Okay. >> So, >> what would be the next step for 141 00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:51.359 subcommittee heads? Are they going to use your action table to kind of um uh refine recommendations and action items? Um so I I think you know for each of the 142 00:39:51.359 --> 00:40:07.200 five categories we have fairly long list of action items because we did access those outside resources. So I would really like the subcommittees to take a look at those and decide which actions either 143 00:40:07.200 --> 00:40:23.359 that are on that list or that they come up with on their own. um we ought to spend some time describing as priority feasible action items for Westport. And you know, importantly, I think there should be a combination of things that we as a town do and things that 144 00:40:23.359 --> 00:40:39.599 individuals can do >> because if we make this report um you know, directed both at the town and individuals, I think there's probably going to be more interest in it and and more participation. >> You know, what can you do? How can this help you? 145 00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:56.319 Okay. Thank you. >> And Jeff, are you thinking about Did I hear you say that there'll be um a chapter or something to resources, links to resources like the M codes? >> Sure. Or an appendix or something like that. Yeah. >> Or what? 146 00:40:56.319 --> 00:41:12.000 >> Or an appendix. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that would be really good. >> This would be an awesome report. Well, I urge everyone to uh read the ones that Dia has sent out and if you have 147 00:41:12.000 --> 00:41:26.880 suggested changes, uh get them to Dia and Jeff. Um our next meeting is, I hope, going to be June 11th if that's okay with people. So, a little more than a month from now. If if 148 00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:45.920 you can get uh uh when do you like deadlines? if you can uh uh uh get your comments in by the end of the week. No, no, I'm just uh kidding. Uh end of next week, maybe that that gives uh uh Jeff 149 00:41:45.920 --> 00:42:02.720 and Dia some time to incorporate all those comments. Now, uh uh I think the other uh item we want to talk about is uh river days. Um, and this committee 150 00:42:02.720 --> 00:42:19.680 has been at River Days uh, many years. Um, two years, that's a lot. >> And we haven't had much to say. >> So, but we have more to say. And there's 151 00:42:19.680 --> 00:42:34.400 a lot of people at River Days. Yeah. >> And they're all interested in the river. So, it tells you something about them. Um and so the question is uh should what should we take to river days in in terms 152 00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:50.240 of we don't have a finished report but we have a lot we have more than last year so what should we take do you got some thoughts on this? Yeah, definitely. Well, after the my coast demonstration, I definitely think that we should be having a little workshop to get people 153 00:42:50.240 --> 00:43:05.680 logged into my coast with the and like leaving with the education, you know, after a big storm event, you can always go out and help us document and help us um collect information on Westports beaches. I think part of that is we can also do a plug for photos for the report because I don't have too many. So, it's 154 00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:22.880 like send your photos in, you know, we can make it make it look nice with QR codes and flyers and stuff. Make it fun. you know, this is how you can be involved in climate resilience right now. You can take pictures, you can send it in. It's a easy, you know, a lot of people have smartphone access. >> Well, I I think besides that, I mean, my 155 00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:40.720 coast is great, but it's about sea level rise. >> Um, and that anyone who reads our report realizes there's a lot more to this issue than sea level rise. So, uh, you don't want people starting to think that 156 00:43:40.720 --> 00:43:56.240 this is about one thing, >> uh, when it's about a lot of things. >> Um, and so I think, uh, I think the idea of getting people on my coast so they can go out and use it because it looks pretty user friendly, 157 00:43:56.240 --> 00:44:13.839 >> like even I could do it. And uh uh but if we had a a one or a two-sided one pager >> Yeah. >> on what the report what's in the report and when they can expect to see it 158 00:44:13.839 --> 00:44:31.200 >> and if they want to read the whole thing. I don't know if there's a a planning department link to get the everything we've got so far. Is there? Well, we can definitely put it on the website, but I don't we don't have like a draft document now that I think is 159 00:44:31.200 --> 00:44:46.560 kind of a polished thing that we can share with like for review. >> Yeah. I mean, we're talking about June 20th on the outside chance we've got something by then we could share the report, but I think uh >> absent that a two-pager that discusses, you know, this committee, what they're doing 160 00:44:46.560 --> 00:45:02.319 >> and uh pulling from some of the information we have in the introductory chapters these five sectors, how can they be affected? I think that is enough to set the groundwork for this report and generating interest in it sometime. >> I'd rather see a teaser than a draft. >> Okay. 161 00:45:02.319 --> 00:45:17.599 >> Okay. >> And and so the next thing would be uh sending out to members of the committee. >> How many days is River Days? Two days. >> This is one. >> One day. >> River day. >> River day. >> River day. >> I thought it was rain. 162 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:32.800 >> I thought it was D A Z E. No, >> cuz that's always what I seem to be in when I go there. Uh, >> that's what people on the back end of you have problems. >> Is that why >> is that why you saw a mermaid there? >> That's right. 163 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:50.960 >> Didn't know we had the mermaid west river. >> So, John, I don't know whether it's that's this is actually a king tie, but on on um on the 20th, the high tide will be a 3.08 08 tide at 246 and at 164 00:45:50.960 --> 00:46:06.640 Hicksbridge so it'll be different up and then the day before it's 3.16 so it's a little higher but I wonder whether afternoon during river days the water will rise and flood the you know I don't think that's time 165 00:46:06.640 --> 00:46:23.119 >> all right so I think what you could do though is send out to the committee we're going to have a table >> and can you be here for an hour or two and if so, what hour or two can you be there so we can >> make sure the table is uh 166 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:40.160 >> so I Yeah, I think we have a banner. >> Yeah, >> we have a >> we have a table. >> Um we'll pull together the two-pager. I'll volunteered to do that. >> And then I think uh if we had a you know short list of tools showing people how to get on them and you know if somebody 167 00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:56.319 there is technical and can help people download the thing and demonstrate it at >> live >> that would be great. >> Yeah. >> Maybe I'll ask the watershed alliance to locate you near the river so when it floods at 246 you the table will be underwater and you 168 00:46:56.319 --> 00:47:11.920 can demonstrate. >> So I Oh, I'm sorry to interrupt. I'll apply to be a vendor then. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Sure. >> All right. Anything else? >> We need to give away ice cream. >> Give away ice cream. >> Stickers from Westport ready. So, I was like, you can bring those. That's 169 00:47:11.920 --> 00:47:29.680 climate related. Yeah, I do want to bring people in at something. >> We've gotten rid of all like resilience kits, right? >> There are some left, but um I'm holding them for an event at the Graange that got postponed. >> Ah, okay. And I did want to ask um Julia, is UMass 170 00:47:29.680 --> 00:47:45.280 still thinking of doing mapping for this project or are you guys set with just um like the chapter 4 you had drafted? Um, so I included some if you're talking about the coastal 171 00:47:45.280 --> 00:48:07.839 flooding method, I included those within like the climate projection chapters for um coastal storm surge. >> Okay. I was just going to say I can share the the data with you that I filed from um and also 172 00:48:07.839 --> 00:48:23.760 n.gov of in case you need more like those future products and also the GIS file so that you can have it yourself. >> That would actually be super helpful. Thank you. Um, okay. So, you guys don't think you'd be providing that for any other section of the report, just the 173 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:40.960 one you had drafted. >> Yeah. Um, and I haven't discussed any other mandate other for then climate projections. uh >> if you would like >> to talk about any other memory for any 174 00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:57.960 other um >> chapter I would I would be interesting in helping you as long as we like to talk about it um and then I can ask you know the body that's within the scope of work just for my thesis work. >> Okay, understood. Thank you. 175 00:48:58.319 --> 00:49:14.400 >> All right, any other comments, questions? Uh, is there a motion to adjurnn? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All right. Made by Shauna, second by Jim. >> Um, any discussion? All in favor say I. 176 00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:17.440 We are returned.