One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Put my microphone back on. Okay. So, first thing we have tonight, soil permit for George Brown, 1109 Main
Road, soil permit number 488. Mr. Chairman, this is renewal season. So, this is a renewal of George Brown's soil permit 11:09 Main Road soil permit number 488. Uh site says it was on July 17th, 2025.
Description of the work. The owner has filed the request for a renewal of their stockpile transfer site permit number 488 at the location of 11:09 Main Road. The site is used for storing earth minerals to the owner's business. Site was in good working order.
Recommendations. The Westport Conservation Commission Soil Conservation Board should approve the one-year permit renewal number 488 with George Brown, 11:09 Main Road. Any discussion? If not, a motion. Motion to approve. Second. All in favor? I.
Okay. That's unanimously on that was Jake and Kevin. No. Welcome. All right. Next we have septic repair uh Westport or WPT Properties LLC 790 Main Road.
Is that Westbor design representing WT profits? This is the old bank building on the north side of lees. Um, that building sits right here. Normally has a subject tank and a beach deck somewhere in this
area and it's it's failed. So, we need to do something with it. So, we got to build a new leech field at the bottom of the hill. This hill is very steep. Uh, and we need to build this leeching field to receive the this DF line. The
wetlands line is flagged 100 to 101. It sends off to the northeast here and to the southeast here. The system proposed is 85 ft away from the wetlands and the sloping that we need to meet the slope
requirements is 60 ft. U so that's the best I can do with it. And from the back side of the drive-thru parking area, it just goes right straight down. It drops almost probably close to somewhere around 20 ft.
Where's the existing system now that we've just It's either on we believe it's under the drivethru under that section of pavement. Yeah, it's going it's going to be pumped up and filled in. Members, Mr. Chair, members, uh this is
WT Properties LLC, 790 Main Road. This is a request for determination of applicability filed by Westport Environmental Design. The report date is July 17th, 2025. Site visit was also on July 17th, 2025.
Description of the work. The applicants filed a request for determination to repair the septic system on the property. Site is located within the front section of the lease parking lot. The proposed septic repair will be within the buffer zone to wetlands that exist below a steep slope in the rear of
the site. Wetland flags 100 to 101 were placed accurately. Septic system leech field will be constructed 85 ft from the edge of the wetland and the grading will bring it within 60 ft. Uh this is a buffer zone activity. Recommendations for the board. The Westole Conservation
should approve the proposed septic system repair with a negative box 3 determination for 790 Main Road WPT properties. All right. Any questions on No. Any questions for the table? Not a motion.
Motion to approve. Second. All right. That was Jacob Hill. All in favor? Opposed. All right. That's unanimous. Have a good night. Ron Alivera, Vasro Realy Trust, Francis
Estate, Charlotte White Road, construct storm water infrastructure grading in the buffer zone grounding your microphone tonight. Yeah, we consume. I told you. My Do we have a butterc?
My wife says less I say better. So, I'm good. All right. You can stop anytime you like to. All right. Good evening. Uh Tom Morris with Zenith Consulting Engineers representing Ron Ala. Um so this site on Charlotte White Road near the
intersection of Main Road. Um had a previous subdivision done um I believe in the 201s and Ron has since bought it and is going to a conventional layout. Um
we are using the same wetland line from the previous um delineation all highlighted in green here. Um this one here on the left side of the page is upgrading of all the work. So there's
there's zero impact to that at all. This is these are the wetland systems that we are um trying to protect with our erosion control plan which you'll see on the next sheet. But you can see here the pink is the 100 foot buffer. We
have the basin here, the outside of the burm, and then a constructed storm water wetland basin here on the low side. We have some grading for this house, but that's going to be in a separate NOI in the future when that site plan is done.
So, we're just looking for the storm water controls to be approved. And we are proposing a silt sock around downs slope limit of work uh highlighted in blue.
It basically surrounds everything on the downs slope side. We've got a anti-tracking pad. We're doing sil uh silt sacks and all the catch basins. Um we've held 25 ft buffer with no
disturbance. And this has gone through the review and planning board. All the storm water design, everything has been checked out and approved. That's essentially it. Do we have a DP followers?
We do not, Mr. Chairman. So, this motion will be contingent on that file number. All right, Mr. Chairman, members, this is Dazro Realy Trust or what has still been called Francis Estates. Uh it's a pre-existing property that's been
through numerous reviews. Um and new owner now as Tom mentioned is Ron Alivera. Uh location is Shallow Road main road the Senos intent filed by Zenith Consulting with Tom Morris representing. The date of the report is
May uh July 8th 2025. Also the site visit was on July July 8th 2025. The file number is pending. Uh this is planning board approved. They're waiting for the final endorsement documents from the owner. Detailed
description of the work. The app has filed to construct the subdivision roadway called Francis Estates. The site has been previously permitted. The new owner has redesigned the subdivision to eliminate the combined septic system component. The roadway location is out of the 100 foot buffer zone and only
storm water basins are within the buffer zone jurisdiction. wetland line is actually represented and previously approved on an order of resource area delineation. The two storm water basins, one with an infiltration and one pocket wetland designed within
the buffer. An infiltration basin is located along Charlotteway Road. It will divert flows into the pocket wetland uh located within the buffer zone area between the two wetland systems. The pond design will utilize wetland
plantings to remove contaminants before discharge into the bordering vegetated wetland. Wetland plants are designed within pockets separated by gravel burns ending at a permanent pool. Um again to allow natural processes to occur within
that basin. The other basin will be located to the south section of the site. This basin will be designed as an infilt bas infiltration basin to provide mass to provide for mass storm water standard requirements. The basin is designed to provide a twoft separation
from the estimated high water table. The pond will overflow into an adjacent wetland. The storm water design will achieve the 80% total suspended solid removal. The utilation basin must be provided in accordance with the planning board regulations. the planning board
actually has a requirement in their specifics of certain size developments to infiltrate as much uh runoff as possible. So um although I don't agree with infiltration basins in our vicinity because of the high water table um this
is something that the designer was kind of pushed in the direction to uh provide that is why the pocket wetland became created from my concerns and they cooperated and allowed uh that design to I think be more specialized for our area
uh in accordance with the high water table uh operation and maintenance plan has provided uh and it should be as a condition on this order. Um the only other thing the applicant would be required to do is an MPDES permit um before they start construction.
So recommendations rather than alternatives the Westport conservation should approve this proposed project with standard conditions with the proposed storm water basins and grading in the buffer zone for Francis Estates. This motion should be contingent pending
file number um and also that the applicant is responsible for applying for MPDES permit. That is all, Mr. Chairman. All right. Do you have any questions? All right. Any questions from the table? Not a motion. I have a question, but it's not a storm
water question. It's just satisfying my curiosity going forward. So, I know the old design um you know had a centralized wastewater treatment system. Yeah. and and uh with individual septic tanks on the lots and is now that each home is
going to have its own each each home is going to have its own leech field as well. Correct. Both. Okay. All right. Great. I mean great, but that's good. Yeah. I think part of the reason for switching was the cost of the shared system was huge. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's another
project out there where everyone has their own septic system, but they have uh you know a um a community leech fields, not one in each individual lot. And I was just curious what option you had. So that's completely private on each
block. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Any other questions? Motion. I move to approve the plan for um Vizaro Realy Trust um on Charlotte
White Road um subject to uh the uh DP file number. Mhm. Yes. And the and the nifties permit they have to file as a part of the motion as well. All right. Great. We have a second. Second. All right. Have a second from Jason. All
in favor? Opposed? All right, that's unanimously all. Thank you. Just send that back down so I'm not going to bother passing this thing down. Have a good night. Thank you, sir. Thanks, Tom. Have a good night. All right.
So, let's go through the poll. I see that we have This is 418 G prime engineer. That's one of my things. Mr. Chairman, we had an active notice of intent filed for Jonathan Levy uh 418G
Drift Road. Mr. Levy had 5 years ago constructed a home within the property. uh in the same vicinity. He conducted activity that was subject to mitigation for over uh a disturbance
in the riverfront area. He is proposing more work on the property, but he has not correctly paid for certain fees that he is associated with this application. In addition to that, he has an outstanding order of conditions with the
mitigation that he was supposed to do for the house construction still not being signed off and satisfied to prove he got the 2 years growing season and established vegetation. So, um I have a
letter in the file for us to send to the uh the engineer prime engineering to notify them of the information that's lacking. Um so basically they filed for about five activities. Um two of them are associated with the dock
construction. Um a seaw wall in front of the dock. the dock uh extending approximately 70 to 85 feet out into the river which in my opinion the location is within its
navigational channel of the headwater access to the head of Westport. Um but that would be a determination made by the harbor master marine services director. The application is also requesting to do numerous other things
which they only paid for a category one one activity and they're proposing four other activities. They want to put a gazebo. They want to put fencing down the property line. They want to put a boardwalk over the wetland uh this
mitigation area to access the gazebo. They also want to put uh remove invasive species within the riverfront area uh in addition to what Mr. Levy has already applied for and also a trash curtain
which I'm somewhat concerned about because now that all the vegetation and fragmitees has been removed, his property is seeing a lot of trash from high events in flooding or in a moon tide and apparently it's becoming
cumbersome. in order to clean it up. He wants to install some sort of trash rack under the boardwalk to collect it because he in their explanation doesn't want to trample the marsh in order to pick it up or this would make it again
my opinion I think it's impeding the access of wildlife underneath and the mesh could impede animals getting entrapped in it. So I'm not necessarily in favor of what they're proposing. I'm just trying to reiterate that they are missing some things that we need to do
before we can proceed. Um, we can discuss the lacking of this and what he's proposing once they get the actual fees corrected. So, that letter is just to let them know in writing of what I'm expecting from them. So, first of all, they need a certificate compliance
before we can move forward to prove the mitigation that he did in the prior application was satisfactory. Um and then he could propose the boardwalk is a benefit to not walk across this area. Now they kind of if anybody remembers it kind of infringed on the front portion
of the property because the amount of activity was exceeding what was permitted on a 30,000t lot. So long story short, I'd like the commission to send that to the applicant. Um and then we'll schedule a hearing once they satisfy the deficiencies.
All right. Good motif. motion. Yes. Okay. We need a motion to send a letter to the applicant at Department of Engineering uh regarding the deficiencies in their application. Motion to send a strongly worded letter. All right. You have a second.
I second it. There's Jake and B. All in favor? All right. That's unanimous. All right. Next, we have East Bay Media Advertising $61.50. Need a motion to pay. Motion to pay. Second. It's Jake and Jason. All in favor?
Opposed? All right. Uh, peace of the blessed sacrament. Chris, peace of the blessed sacrament. Um, every year, um, ordains their statues within this blessed sacrament,
um, adornment that they hold for the week of, and I guess it's coming towards the end of early August in New Bedford. They removed Bayerry from Gooseberry Island with support from the state. Um, and they just notify us through the
process. We will just follow up with a letter, Mr. Chairman, letting them know that it as long as they got their approvals through the state, we allow them to proceed. All right. You need a motion for that or that's justformational. It'sformational because I think it's the
state's jurisdiction for more than anything. All right. Um, I remember a bill from WBM Masons for $379.99 for office supplies. Motion to pay. Motion from Kevin. Do you have a second? Second. Second from Jake. All in favor? All right. That's unanimously.
We have another bill from Woods Hole Group for $16,6841. This is already signed. Oh, I signed this. Ratifying. Yeah, we don't need to ratify this though. That's all right. That's correct. We sent this in because it was a fiscal and the fiscal uh a year
responsibilities uh for June already in July. So we proceeded with the chairman's signature. This is the spending of funds from the wetlands protection or the wetlands account that we have from applications under the wetlands protection act. The
funding is being utilized to pay for our uh assisted fee for the um beach management plans that we have formulated um on East Beach um Atlantic A and Beach A. This is the first phase of the
project. uh total uh allocation we thought was going to be 30,000 but uh with Michael and Mai's contrib contribution of time I think we whittleled it down to 16 $16,6841
correct so that is our cost share for the grant application that we received for this project a motion to pay motion to pay and I will reiterate sorry Mr. J that those are still pending review and not
fully. We're working towards bringing these to the public now. So we have a meeting scheduled for tomorrow night for East Beach residents. We're going to be at the Graange from 6:00 to 8. um design company uh Connor Hson with his uh Woods
Hole Group is going to be there giving the presentation and what direction that and choices that the community has to potentially consider for that area if anybody's interested in that. Um Atlantic A and BF discussions will be
coming up uh further towards the uh next couple weeks. Um, but as we all know, East Beach is is one of the bigger concerns for residents and the town. So, if anybody's interested, I ask that you attend. All right. Thank you. So, we have a
motion from Jake, second from Jason. All in favor? I is that going to be taped? Yes. Good. Yes. And I will forward a copy of what we have come to date so you guys can look over. That's good.
All right. So last we have a chapter 61A release form for Dudley L. Milikin III and Dora Atwater Milikin. They've withdrawn this Mr. Chairman. Oh. All right. They withdraw it. He's keeping it in 61A.
Beautiful. The new owner. So they know we need to release it. All right. Other than that, we have uh this letter from Foley Hag and Elliot you want to discuss? Well, for the record, Mrip is selling his property, but he's very ecstatic. He's selling it
to a local person from Horsene Neck Road that have entered into agreement to purchase it for that rather steep price, but uh the property is beautiful. He came in just recently and discussed the whole process. So, he's actually excited
that someone is uh taking the property and hopefully they carry on it like him. They actually have a dog training uh facility that they train young dogs with veterans and such and uh this land is perfect for them because they have a lot
of air space for them to run. So all right. So we have and Hogue is a letter that BBC does it coalition has written without the commission's uh attachment to it. I just put it out to a
few members and they uh unanimously didn't like the fact that they were speaking for ourselves and I asked Kathleen to that that most likely was going to happen tonight at this meeting and she took it upon herself to to pull us and send the
letter. So the letter you have is what they've sent uh to the water uh drinking supply division of DED for consideration allowing a little more time for review of the recent pump tests that were done. Um well this was sent but not with us not
included. Correct. Okay. Right. The Phil again has been corresponding uh with George Campbell. George Campbell has come to minor conclusions, but he's not ready to put his hat on it or write it in pen yet.
The hydrogeeologist for Bel came up with similar what George mentioned about there being impacts to the brook, but he didn't make the statement as George did that they seem very minor. So, um, we'll see how it falls into place here. But
again, the coalition has a bigger concern and which we all are concerned and that's the cold water fishery aspect which as Phil has reiterated many times isn't really part of the regulations. It's a separate review process. So
hopefully with our support and the coartic fisheries review is uh something solid will come of this for us to uh eventually rule or not rule for the project. So we what did George say on our behalf?
He'll have it by the end of August. Yeah, George said 8 to 10 weeks. He just started reviewing it. He had some follow-up questions for Peter Dylan who wrote the the report. he was sending him an email uh picking out a few areas that he had concerns for. So, we should see
something from George probably within the end of the week or so, I would guess. Okay. So, all right. So, that's good. So, we're This is good. By the time we get our letter out, it'll probably be the end of August, sometime early September, mid September. All right. The last thing I got for you, Mr. Jim, is kind of
Oh, Phil. I just want Oh, go ahead, Phil. Um, yeah. I mean it um so there was two things. One is that in the letter that um the email that accompanied
um Dylan sending all the information out, he's he's away now. I said when he when he wanted to come back he wanted to have a meeting of all the parties and so which I think might be productive um to
get to some of the other issues that are there and to my thinking the big you know the kind of the big one is that I think it's clear from the letter that um Buzzards Bay wants to have the impact on
the cold water fisheries made part of the public water supply permit review to get DP and us involved in that. Whereas DP I think has made it clear from the outset that they don't
think that for this because of the relatively small level of withdrawal that they have any jurisdiction over cold water fisheries. And so, um, I think at some point we need to decide
whether or not we're going to kind of go down that path with them or uh because that issue is definitely part of our responsibility at the point that the applicant files a notice of
intent to operate the wells. And there's really interesting criteria as to how you actually apply that here. Um because a cold water fishery is not a resource area, but it's an interest under the act and the regulation treats
those two things differently. Um so uh so just to say one I don't know if we want to um in uh what's the right word convene or
participate in this a meeting with everybody made me think of what uh we did on Pine Ridge where the chair called a meeting which was not a public meeting because there wasn't a quorum there and just had
the technical people and the regulatory people all together in one room and just kind of hash things out which I think generally I like I support that idea. I don't know how it fits into the schedule or not. I don't know why Buzzard's Bay
needs two months to look over this report uh because they just asked D not to do anything. I don't hydrogeeologist is away as well. Okay. Yeah. does its phase. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean there's August and se I mean it's kind of like
he's not gone all of August and all of September, right? You know what I mean? It's kind of like I guess in just saying so you have a I think it's unusual for uh you know unless the applicant goes along with it you know an opposing party
comes in and says please delay it you know for 60 days that the I don't but it's not our I don't really think it's in our wheelhouse. I mean, we have to see what they do, but uh it may be more productive because I
think there are some other issues here like D has two outstanding SOC's. Correct. And uh then there's the fact that there's been no the whole status of the mitigation that has not been completed.
Yep. you know, and so there's a bunch of things like that I think it would be worthwhile going through a meeting because maybe we're going to say, you know, don't bother to file your NOI until you get this mitigation going and uh contact D and say, what do you do with these SSCs because this thing has
life again in it and Yep. you know, so there's a bunch of things that I think should happen, but um and I think we'll eventually I guess the other thing in the letter it
also says there they say they have no long-term plan. They don't know what they're going to do with the property at this point. So, which also I think could affect our decision- making because it might be really different if they decide, you know, to
build a commercial building versus a a residential building in terms of, you know, what the water use will be and what the impact will be. So, it's just a, you know, so anyway that I'm just kind of supporting the meeting and I
don't think we should get it. just off the top of my head, I don't think we should get involved in the water supply uh side of it, you know, unless D says that they're willing to do it. And if Buds Bay wants to go ahead and then appeal the permit, that's
that's, you know, that's okay. Agreed. But that's just my opinion. All right. Well, Chris, are we are we going to have a meeting with them or not? Yeah, I would expect I would be willing to meet with them and as mentioned, usually it works pretty well
and they everybody airs out their concerns. I just uh want to bring to the fact that we had a fire today at Excel Recycling on Shallow Road and through conversation with Andrew Cooney from the Mass D
Emergency Response, the wetlands have been impacted from this fire. There was over 10,000 gallons of water uh utilized today and there were forever chemicals I think administered in order to suppress
the fire and that has gone into those wetland system. So it's in the foam. They are now looking at an LSP form Excel initiating emergency response requirements for that release. So, just to give the commission
and select board member some insight in what occurred today. So, um that's at least that's all I've heard to date. I'm not sure. Um he was on his in route to the site. So, he was just a few minutes away. They were actually looking from me
to give him contact information. And I I drew a blank when the owner that was asked who the owner is, so I couldn't help him. But where was that again? Where was it? Excellers on Shaway Road just up from Main Road. Used to be Thad's garage. Uh
Thad's junkyard rather. Tires. Was it tires? No, this was not tires. I don't believe so. I think this was within the recycling materials. I don't know if they were cutting or what happened, but it was further. Wasn't near any homes. It was way in the rear. Not way in the
rear, but in the middle portion. But they installed those large storm water basins. And luckily they were there, but the fire chief said that they literally were full and that the impact was occurring cuz the water had no place to go but overflow uh into that wetland
system that was on the main road. So, uh just information wise, we may see some further action from that. So, were they full before the fire or were they just or they they full from the fire? They were bone dry. You know the fire.
Yeah. They had Rochester Domton. Yeah. They were going to the pond on 177 cuz they knew they were going to run out of water picking it up all day. Yep. So all right. All right. Anything else, Chris? No, that's all I have. Does anybody else have anything they
want to discuss? They'll probably be testing the wheel soon. Yeah, they should be right on the neighbors. Yeah. Anybody else have anything else? Just like to thank Mr. Gillette for such a great job with the uh camera work tonight. Are you doing homework over
there? You're busy. Uh I'm uh drawing a rainbow. Oh, okay. All right. It's time to return. I just knew I knew you weren't focused on us. I knew you were focused on something else. This is why this is why we don't give Jason a microphone. See, they take my mic away.
Can I get a motion to please? Second. Second. All in favor? Oppos. calling. Thank