this meeting of the West Court Historical Commission is now open Uh voting members present Caroline Wolter Timothy Bryant William Kendall Garrett Stuck Deborah Chi Ward Mooney and Katrina Stroszik First item of business is
minutes of the meeting of March 3rd which have been distributed to you Deborah and I have already gone through and given our comments So should we mention the continuence as one of the attachments or you could mention that
okay Right So there's there's there's one item missing from the list of attachments which is um continuation that was received after the February 3rd meeting and should should have been on the March meeting on 1954 Main Road which was a CA
application and we continued it to March 3rd So the continuence is part of the attachment So I'll make that Okay I'm having trouble if I'm having trouble Caroline's having trouble Okay So we had a continuence on that
So I forgot pointing out I forgot to put in the attachments I'll add it the attachment We will speak Uh any other comments a motion i move that we so approve it Second Uh all in favor i All
opposed Passes unanimously Okay Next item is the treasures report Uh I'm the treasurer Uh and so um our account balances uh as of April 3rd 2025 general expense account
$660 Um town farm expense account $950 Uh that's after a um a charge to remove some squirtles from the building back in January I think
uh trust funds Uh the WHC trust fund has $19,673 The Town Farm Trust Fund has $28,880 and the Wolfpit School Trust has $8,451 Do I hear a motion to approve the treasures report so to
approve by Ward seconded by Bill Uh all in favor i I opposed Motion passes And I'll send you a copy of this by email Okay Next item is um applications for
certificate of appropriateness Um first 2048 Main Road Dorothy Paul Um application to raise an out building Want us to come um you could come here or maybe the podium is better Podium
There's a mic on the podium Good evening I'm Dorothy Paul uh 2048 Main Road Um the reason for this application is we have got to raise our boat shed Uh it floods consistently Um it's even starting to flood now just on
high tides when it's not storming So we have gone through conservation and we're um just about done with our chapter 91 revision license to raise the grade the wall to feed our seaw wall And we need to we will be bringing up the grade as
well And our plan is to simply move the shed up uh so it the appearance is actually not going to change other than the higher visa v the the um
the neighboring fences and um neither of my neighbors have expressed any concern on it Um so there really isn't going to be they it sits on peers now Um it will be sills sitting on peers somewhat
visible but not more visible because the grade's coming up the same Um and hopefully will sit better because they're not some of them are not exactly uh bearing weight at the moment Not the ones you can see by the way It's the ones under the under the structure Um
this is my son Philip tongue So he's more involved in the um design of what we're going to be doing Okay So just to be clear it it won't I mean relative to the grade it won't look any different It's not going to look any different The only difference everything including the grade will just Yeah
Because the wall itself is going to be higher The grade is going to be higher So the perspective from the water and really pretty much from the land is going to be the same Um just higher and hopefully not flooding at all or often Do we have
pictures of We do Here we can use these sent these around in case you Dorothy the um right now it looks like it's right at grade So is that when you lift it isn't there going to be like a a wall around the the No because the grade's going up That's It looks like
it's right on the ground Uh it is in part because it was ra it was raised several a number of years ago when the septic was done We are in title five compliance and um Len Potter did that work then and I wish we' gone up higher but didn't have a crystal ball Um so the
front of the shed is actually there's steps going in and it's into a it's almost in a hill and there's wood um touching dirt there So we kind of will have to get better air flow there But in the back um it's upgraded just a little
bit and it's you said the back the back the when I say the back the water side because I'm thinking from my house and Right Right It's water It's in the backyard Um it's not a garage So boat ship It's not
a garage You um maybe if you had a model 2 you could get in there but you'd have a tough time getting a car in there I'm It actually family lore anyway has that it came down I think the 38 hurricane down the river So Oh wow Yeah
So like to open a public hearing on this matter So this is formally the part of the meeting where the public is invited to to to comment Um and let me start by reading a letter from a from an abuter um from Lynn Carter Dear historical
commission I'm a longtime abutter of Dorothy Paul We have owned a house across the street since my parents bought it around 1955 I support her request to raise the boat shed The backyard where the shed is located often floods during especially high tides and in all manner of storms The water level
can easily rise high enough to flood the shed as it stands now Raising the shed would not be noticed from any distance away It would not materially affect the view of the point from the bridge as other buildings on the point previously approved by the historical commission
certainly do Sincerely Lynn Carter II Other comments from the public okay there being none I hereby close the public hearing Uh discussion
by the commissioners Any questions no I have no question Looks good to me Motion to approve There's a motion to approve A second I seconded by Deborah Um let's do a voice vote All in favor hi Katrina Oh
you want to roll i I made a roll call Yes sir Katrina Stros I Ward Mooney I Deborah Chel I Garrett Stuck I William Kendall I Timothy Bryant I Caroline Boulder I Okay approved Thank you There will there will be somebody um I'm sorry
what you I forgot what you call the person that comes and checks A monitor Monitor Yes Yes Have to sign monitors and um sign off on the plans too Who would like to be a monitor i'll be a monitor Okay I'll be one with you
Caroline And so um so you just need to let them know when the when the uh work starts Very well Very well We don't have a definite start date soon I hope Not yet So why don't we use one of these copies and we'll sign off on you okay Okay So
Dorothy I'll I'll issue the certificate this week and it'll be there'll be a copy at the building department and I'll send you one Very good Thank you Thank you very much Thank you Okay Next item
Yeah Next item 1967 Main Road Dennis Rob gutter Uh this matter was continued from an earlier meeting indefinitely and so new notice was sent for this meeting I'll let you know
that I think that's best for for everybody to hear printed one Okay let me see what I've got in my file I know I got on my computer cut sheets Great Okay please This is John Catrell
Good evening Person in charge of doing the work Okay great Woohoo So we're wanting to uh replace to remove and replace the rotted gutters all the cutters all the wooden
gutters and replace them with fiberglass And then to have down spouts that are aluminum and all the and all the rotted and to repair all the rotted uh wood that's around the gutters as well
So the gutters are going to be aluminum not fiberglass They're aluminum The new gutters right now the house has a mix of wood and aluminum for the gutters They have um a corrugated
2x3 aluminum down spout Gutters carry the water off the roof Down spouts carry the water out of the gutters Uh there is one area in the back that has aluminum now for a gutter
Looks like a later addition to the house but the house currently due to the wooden gutters due to the age of the wooden gutters and due to how they were installed which is a split um fascia
gutter system attached to rafted tails with small sockets underneath propensity is that the lead outlets deteriorate the end grain of the wood absorbs it it rolls into the house instead of out of the house the way it's designed And that's just a a maintenance
type issue Our proposal to Dennis is to completely remove all the gutters completely remove all of the fascia install new solid pre- primed wood fascia with fiberglass gutter in
3-in round spout which is aluminum Do do you have cut sheets for the the gutter profile uh yes I brought a section of the gutter here with me
just to show you And if you've had an opportunity at all to ever look at a wooden gutter you'll know that this trough size is double the size of wood trough with all the strength better than wood It's
fiberglass Um and we can shape it miter it do any kind of hanging on it we want Tennis's home has what's known as a double return The trade we call them pigeon breeders Maybe you've seen birds hanging
out those little shells So we're going to bring the gutter all the way around and we'll go down the full length of the fasia and then do its returns to mirror what Dennis has on his house now So it will be
returned It'll come along the fascia go under the rake board and this detail here is where it's going to be mitered there as well Correct That will return back into the house Right Okay
And we do have several projects um that have been approved here in Westport for the same system There's quite a few right in that area of main road But this if anyone wants to grab a hold
of what it was before that just happens to be the profile on Dennis's house There are other profiles that they do make Mhm Um part of the beauty of this product is it can be made to replicate any kind of gutter that's out there So if we have uh project say they want to
do a historic home up in Boston it can be made to meet the exact profile of what's there Mhm Um I know they did uh I forget the house It's in
uh just south of Boston but it was uh John Adams Mhm when they redid his house they used a form fiber glass gutter to meet exact for the federal historic standards So interesting Was that was that a custom gutter uh it was custom
shape We just replaced um over at the uh Lynen place in Bristol Mhm They had half round wooden gutters we had to replace So we made them out of fiberglass We did the entire project They had three styles of gutter They had
to keep the style but it had to be um we had to do it fiberglass cuz metal was not allowed in wood Just wouldn't you know be sufficient Okay And do you know who makes that
sorry Who makes that um this is made by Fiber Gutter the company Fiber Gutter Fiber Gutter That's a nice profile Uh they do a great job and you can get it with a molding I mean depending on what you have
Are the down spouts round or corrugated or round smooth Smooth 3-in round Smooth Thank you Um these are the details that we've been looking for We've approved um fiberglass gutters before but we're
we're always very concerned about the returns especially on um federal houses and Greek rev fiber houses So I think what you've presented here is perfect for the historic district Y absolutely And the round gutters These are all the
things that we have requested Yep No it it certainly fits the bill It replaces wood in a in a better manner in that it has larger capacity Uh late in the last 10 years the rain has been very overwhelming inundating a lot of the
older systems So it keeps water off the building rotting it from the bottom up and the top down So it's worked well for us Okay let's uh open a public hearing Any comments from the public hearing none I close the public
hearing Uh discussion by the commissioners I have one question Uh you said you were using a treated um wood fascia board I am Why wouldn't you use the PVC
um PVC expands and contracts Uh a little more than I care for I'm also uh I'm a snob when it comes to PVC as far as trim boards
I'm a wood guy That's where I'm from This is kind of an anomaly for me but I I believe in this fiberglass product I also believe in this product which is called New Zealand Solid Gold It's an engineer It's a genetically engineered
wood product and it is grown to be insect resistant and it's solid I keep stressing the word solid because I don't believe in finger jointed or laminated
trim It falls apart Look at your back door that got installed primed and now it's all popped and falling apart And if it's not your back door it's your neighbors It's just a propensity Oh we've got this great product And I fully understand we're trying to be thrifty
with what wood we have available but this is specifically grown and engineered for this type of use Is Literally no expansion and contraction It takes paint and it will be on there long after we've gone Is Is this a koa a
koa Is it no it's it's a uh it's a fur product It's a pine fur product It's fast growing Mhm Um and it's been on the market for over 10 years now It's a wellproven product We use it in all of these applications
the uh the PVC boards the the uh AACS and they've got all different kinds of name in it you know closed cell Um it's just it moves too much And when we're putting that onto a house with
this which is stable you're going to have potential issues I found that the projects we have had approved here in Westport We do use the new uh New Zealand solid gold product I buy it right at
Humphre I believe in the product and it does the job Uh is this is that um product the solid wood i'm I'm familiar with the product but um that is radiata pine right that's been treated The radiated up pine has got the bad
reputation for rotting Are you talking uh about pressuret treated no No Um trim boards or what you buy at Home Depot they call pine is radiata pine which they grow in
New Zealand And if you use that wood that you think it's pine and you put that on the exterior of your house and any water that penetrates it it just the fungus gets in and rots it right out I have never experienced that I don't know if
this Home Depot product is the same product No it isn't It's just uh unprimed pine that you would use for trim inside the house or outside And people aren't aware of that and so they buy that thinking they can use it on the
outside and it rots right out They use it on corner boards and um it really bad bad stuff So it's but I think what and this is grown your wood is grown that solid gold is grown in New
Zealand as well That's why I've asked the question Uh it is um I can't talk much about the company I don't know a lot about the company I just know that the success we've had the warranties that come with it the fact
that it's grown to be insect resilient and it's solid and it's pre primed So it gives us it's back primed edge primed So it's 4S primed We put a finish coat on it You won't have to touch it for 15
years Uh and a koa is is is treated with um somehow they've taken the wood and modify the wood chemically by pressure treating or some elaborate process uh
that the Humphre also has that um and uh I haven't seen a piece of it yet but this may be the same thing just with a with a trade name No it's not the same It's not chemically treated This is It's not chemically treated genetically engineered
to be insect resistant but it's an allwood product It's just engineered to have these two different kinds of wood as a composite Is that Or is actually saw yes it is actually saw It It's It's a
tree It just I thought you said GMO Um there was a question on the the AAC or the PVC I call it plastic wood And I mean as a carpenter who had to run a
business my start was in all these old farms and barns and wood siding and wood roofing and wood trim And I've seen them come out with oh this is great finger jointed and this is great laminated and then customer calls and it's popping apart because either the paint didn't
hold or someone hit it and it started to rot And I'm not about the plastic products I'm not about vinyl I'm not about PVC Um I can see it a mile away I think it looks cheap and it's not something
that I like to use So when this New Zealand Gold came out I was like "Hey this is great." Now that doesn't mean that I won't do one of those projects but I will do my best to try to put some in a natural finish versus a synthetic
finish The point is not synthetic From my standard the reason I another reason I mentioned koa is that it came up here Uh we've been doing research into uh windows uh restoration windows
windows that replicate exactly the windows that we have on the point True divided light that type of sash right but they're making they're making them out of a koa because it's a stable wood and it holds paint very well and um it
will never rot And that's and they have told us that this this wood is remarkable That's why I bring it up We I we haven't seen any Aoya trim boards or anything here You know I may have some of uh the
carpenters that work on the cruise use the product but I don't have any knowledge of a koi what it does how it's made Most of what I do and what I spec But they are coming out with so
much new stuff And wood is not based on any type of recycling of plastic or oil product It is grown more versatile in my opinion Thank you Because that that helps I think that's
very informative You're welcome Yeah Yeah So I'm I'm just looking up solid gold on on the uh internet and it does talk about um says solid gold utilizes the patented true core treatment process resulting in 100%
penetration Um so it sounds like there is some treatment I mean I don't I I mean I think we we tr we probably trust you um in your judgment and I'm glad that you're using a wood product instead of a plastic based product Um but we'll
we'll do a little research ourselves and find out what um this product is because people are always asking us for They're always asking us for suggestions Yes So I appreciate that Um motion to approve
Second Okay The motion has been um made and seconded Let's have a roll call vote Katrina Katrina Strosai Ward Mooney I Deborah Chowi I Jared Stuck I William Kendall I Timothy Bryant I
Caroline Boulder I Your certificate is approved The eyes have Thank you The eyes have it All right So we'll uh sign monitors and then Dennis you can call me when you're underway You'd like me to call you when yes When
it's underway So we can monitor We can monitor it Yeah Absolutely Okay Great All right Who else we'll be scheduling monitor with you Okay Good So Katrina and I will monitor Thank you Thank you Thank you Something for us to sign I have the um sign
Okay Next item applications for certificate of non-applicability Uh the first one uh 1954 Main Road that was the um house that had a solar panel project that was approved at the last meeting and uh they
realized afterwards they needed uh a certificate to reshingle their garage roof and that uh certificate was approved by the chair and the clerk using our authority Um so next is 1913 Main Road
That should be Drift Road Sorry 1913 Drift Road Russell Baker a new window and HVAC condenser Is Russell Baker here i don't know Um not sure he needs to be here Well we can discuss it with them Did he
give us enough materials i think he did He gave us cut sheets to to bring here So he's not here to bring me I don't know what he's installing Well I think I mean he he sent a he sent a sketch Yep
Um so I think the window is actually not visible from a public way Yeah exactly It's um and the other item was a was a condenser location of an HVAC condenser which I think here's what you submitted It's got um
that's not the picture Yeah So that that's where it is That's where the condenser would be Okay What is visible window there's there's a there's a there's a sketch Um I want this condenser to put I can I can pull it up
I don't have any window information Isn't there a sketch of the the property god bless you Yeah Garage install location Let's see Okay So yeah there there was not there was not a sketch but this is on Drift
Road You can see Drift Road is is is down the hill Oh yeah Yeah Um and so they they had an extra window left from a renovation that came before us sometime within the last few years And so they want to put that window in the
gable of the garage which I don't think is visible from main road It's certainly not visible from drift road Um probably not visible from main road Okay Um and then they're also going to put some HVAC in this
unit Um so I don't know if you can see it at that So so drift road is down here Let's see Yep I'm sorry So this is a certificate for non-applicability Exactly
Okay So uh we don't have to vote on it You can just um he says what it is He's once installed It's on the application cut sheet but it's a Pella reserve window This the same that we've already approved for the main house
facing the rear of the property not visible from any public way and then the mini split installed in that location Right So the window is a window we've already approved So I think we're okay with not seeing the cut sheet Well if you can't see it yeah we can't
see window anyway Um and the uh in the mini splits um they would be fine I think in that location would be fine in that location too Those are the comments Okay So um we don't have to vote You and
I can approve it But as long as we're here let's as long as we're here let's let's vote Um so need a motion Motion to approve I second Here we go Um roll call vote
Katrina Katrina Strozic I Ward Rooney I Deborah Chel I Garrett Stark I William Kendall I Timothy Prime I Caroline Boer I So this will be for a certificate of nonapplicability and we'll just file it at the building Right No monitors
required No monitors required Okay Um so the next item is is a um um preliminary review although it's I mean it sounds more informal than that because we've just been asked basically
to discuss uh windows uh for a renovation of 23 Main Road So um are you Dennis Hammond dennis Hammond Okay Dennis Hammond
I did not Nope So um Dennis Hammond H A M O N D Sorry I have a little frog on my throat Uh 2032 Main U main road in Westport And
we'd like uh your approval to replace the windows in the home Uh we've gotten um estimates from three companies This company here Harvey Company they're made I believe in Dartmouth Um seems to have the best
pricing and describe the windows very well and they have the exact same windows that we have on the house now So we Okay this is my daughter Melissa Hammond So is this a preliminary review or is it
um because no application has been filed So we can't approve anything until you have an application You understand that yes Yeah Mhm So it's just to discuss whether you should go down this road Yes ma'am Okay Um so what are the what are the windows like in the house are they
um are they two over two or or they're exactly like that yes sir Exactly like that Yeah Okay Um how old is this house uh 1780 Wow What What's the address again 2032 Thank
you Main room Thank you A significant number of the windows were replaced during a renovation that took place in we believe 2005 2006 Mhm Uh it was Shane Shannon Connors who owned the home Sharon Connor Oh Sharon Connor Sure
So when she and her husband moved in they did a pretty extensive renovation and of the 36 windows 36 windows 36 windows total Wow Yeah So the majority of them were replaced then So
um a house of that period would have a if I could I see the picture of the house sure Oh okay So it's a cape with the um with the um added adormers on top Okay Um
it's a bigger bigger chair Yeah Yeah And is it the which windows is it that would you'd be replacing you want to replace all of them if you can All 36 All 36 If you notice the windows that
are on the point are have divided lights and they have six over six lights Mhm Um that would be the correct window to put in the house Okay Um what has been done there is not the correct window because
that window wasn't used in that period That would be a Victorian window that has solid pane of glass So it was changed at some point My my guess is when the dormas were added they changed the windows out Yeah So how' they get
permission to do that you were Well it could have been I don't know that that was that was not predated That was that was done before the commission I'm sure if that was Victorian or the that style of window 1880s type of house So that's the
question is uh you're going to use the simulator divided lights right yes Okay And the question then becomes do you reverse history and put what was appropriate for it when it was a cape or was it that the history of the house
with the dorm was added um for instance Hicks Farm um the windows were replaced um with with six over sixes They should have been 12 over 12s So someone replaced them but they didn't put the right window units in So it's a question
um the windows that are that I I can't see the detail of the of the actual framing of the window but those may be the original I think they are from what I see here these are
the original window frames so in that case the commission would you would be replacing in those original frames you wouldn't be taking those frames off and putting new windows No you'd be putting windows inside those
frames Yes And that would be an insert window Mhm An insert window is not allowed in the district because it reduces the size of the glass The Harvey window there is an insert window Right And so what you would be doing what the right thing to do and what we're going
to recommend is that you would be replacing the sash Okay This is a preliminary review So um all these things are are very important So I'm I'm not sure may I'm not sure that that was understood Well somewhat
not Yeah Well the two pieces So please sash There's an upper sash and a lower sash Okay So that's what you would be replacing And the big frame around it that is made out of a piece of 2 and 1/2 in by 2 in uh wood is going to remain
Okay It it it would be helpful to see what their insert is on an existing condition So I I understand what you're saying I don't if possible Yeah it would be helpful to see what that looks like Well we have gone through this with
Anderson renewal We've gone through it with the insert windows by Pella We've had samples brought in It's not been something that it's been actually a waste of time Um they just add that much less glass
Yeah To that window Yeah We were told that we we were aware that the window size would shrink by I think is that half an inch on each side half an inch total Total just half an inch And there's one other problem is that the the thickness of the styles and rails
are different the sides So you have a meeting rail that is you know about two inches thick whereas in the district the windows are very slight and they're actually around an inch and a half thick the the width of it right and so all
these details are really important uh to that district to have harmony in the windows Mhm Um so what you'll be looking into is a replacement of the
sash And there are people that do make just the sash alone Mhm And they do make it with the insulated glass Oh they do yes Okay That would be good That's our main concern is to Right They even make it with the new insulated glass which is
the thermal glass Yes which is even better because that glass is only that thick and it has the same R value as the Anderson glass Anderson insulator glass is 3/4 of an inch thick This is about a
little over a quarter Do you have any names or I do I do there's um um well Boston Sash Boston Sash Yeah that's one company you want to
I I didn't I wasn't prepared with my window uh your window list here today Uh but um could you email that to us uh commission or Yeah I can get it to Yeah Right Um
uh Green Mountain window is probably your best choice I'm not saying that Boston Sash is very good too but um Okay They all have great reputations There's one a company in Stonington Connecticut And there's one
in the Midwest that is making it out of the Aoya wood Yeah Interesting And also using that particular glass So it makes it it's a really good window And we have even gotten prices on it and they're um there each of the window it's about
um well it was $1,500 per window with the two sashes Little Harbor Windows in Maine might be worth looking at too Yes Any of these companies that make reproduction windows All you have to do is go online Okay And
just put in historic reproduction windows How about the rest of the house i I know this is we're talking about the front I assume right that can be seen from the the main road right oh how about the rest of the house do we have Well if we can't if we can if we can't see the
window from a from a public view I think you can see pretty much all the windows in the house All the windows sides What about the back of the house what's visible from the water you can see Oh then that's a public way as well So you've got all four sides are considered We have replacement windows
already from 2006 And you're going to re be replacing them yeah Well then what I would do is um if they've been replaced and they're not in the original house then I would replace them with windows that have been
approved by the district which would be the um the pillow window Okay Which is the common window being used Uh and also the Anderson Woodright window And is that an insert bill uh no no no um their
window the units right so we can't do replacement windows at all Is that what we can't use replacement windows is what you're saying Where we can see them you can Right So we're asking specifically about
the 2006 windows that were replaced Some of them actively leaking It was an addition added to the house in 2006 They're visible from the waterway and some are visible from the main room Then you would be using a complete window unit Okay
We were trying not to disturb the trim Yeah I know The other I just looked up notes from November and the other window manufacturer we mentioned then was Cooper Yeah Cooper is the windows They make a window in Stonington Connecticut
this Cooper window and then a heritage window which is in the Midwest I think it's Ohio very very good and al also the one that I have been talking to have been uh the
um window what's it one I just mentioned in Vermont Green Mountain window Green Mountain window yeah I think the best price Best price may be from windows or um are Harvey windows out if they're not
replacement windows right harvey doesn't just make replacement windows They make Yeah aluminum They're made out of PVC No no these are wood and aluminum plat Yeah but you would have to bring in a cut sheet on that because I believe that they don't match the proportions
They're very heavily heavily made from what I can see there We'd have to see that Uh there it's wood on the inside and then it has a um Yeah it's solid wood with the aluminum clad on the outside Yeah we have allowed aluminum
clad Aluminum clad and fiberglass clad Um the Marvin um integrity window Marvin Elevate Elevate is what it's called now Yeah elevate And I think Marvin ultimate too We
proved that at the end of the point ultimate trainers pretty sure they I don't remember ever improving the ultimate because that's a very heavy window It's very it's not a historical window And I I think also that you know the I
mean the most important windows are the ones that are that are right on the street Mhm Um and and we we we tend to be a little less fussy about windows that are further back you know maybe you know partially obscured things like that So
um it sounds like you're not going to do the same thing everywhere anyway because you if we could but it sounds like we can't So we have to go to plan B But the thing that gets me is I walk up and down the street and I see all these houses
with aluminum stone windows which I I don't think are of the period and they really look ugly I think you know I think it spoils the whole look of them Yeah of historical home You're right And if you if you do put these reproduction
sash in the front of the house in the main house you're going to be very happy with those windows But I must say the price of windows has gone so high it's hard to believe uh you know what was it someone was
telling me what remember a kid said price of the pillow window was like $2,000 a window Yeah So look at the prices and Oh we have we have estimates $122,000
for windows Yeah Um I I wasn't clear I know there was some conversation about the um the number of pains and we we talked about how you know I think um 12 over 12 was
appropriate and what's there is not but are we saying there's room for how many pains or we're saying that if you're going to do this it would you know we would like you to do like we weren't very prescriptive fine too So what are they
supposed to be can they can they replace what they have with what two over two No I think Bill said no on that Right The two over two is not appropriate So they can do 6 over 6 or 12 over 12 or what's what's our guidance around that well I I
would I would argue if that if those were the windows that were installed when the house was renovated all that time back then that's the appropriate window for it So the question is whether you want to re revisionist historicism That's the
debate right when you go into this um the whole debate is is it the history of it or is it making history reversing history so do do we have pictures of the house back then we might I can look in the archive and
see what we have We do have a collection of photos of these homes I mean that would be helpful to see what it was My guess is it was a two over two back then I believe I'll look it up Yeah there's a picture I didn't see this There's probably a picture around But on
the other hand the appropriate window would be either a 12 over 12 or 6 over six Yeah No I agree with that Um I learned my lesson from Pete Pete Baker right her voices in my head when these kinds of things come up
Okay So what's the ruling then we have to look for a 12 over 12 Is that Well 6 or 6 over six Yeah I don't I don't I don't think that's quite quite the full story because I mean as as Timothy said I mean what you you have two over two
windows there now And and and so they look really nice Yeah And and so even though they may I mean they they almost surely weren't what was there when the house was built they have been there for a long time those dormers and you're and you're talking about replacing them So
if you replace them with something that's similar to what's there um we'd have a tough time saying no to that Okay Yeah So maybe that helps influence your pricing It does Plus I think it looks better I'll try to dig up some pictures
then Do you did you send us anything on the email is that where we got this from is it email yes just an email Yeah Okay So we'll get your email and I can send you some scans of what we've got in the history Great Thank you very much Sure
Thank you And welcome to the neighborhood So that was Sharon's house That was Sharon's house Yeah Was she on the commission she was on the commission I don't know if she was on the commission at the time Well to your point Deb if
the pictures that you see are like that in 2006 then they were replacing you know like for like so to speak right so but wow 37 37 windows Is that what they said at 2,000 bucks each Holy crap
A lot of windows You can get them for less than 2,000 That was a figure that was thrown out Yeah but a window it would probably cost you about 1,500 for the pillow window I think But I haven't priced it or the
Anderson It used to be 300 right well 20 years ago Okay Well now with all the tariffs who knows what they're going to be another whole level of cost
Um so I think I'll I'll send them an email with with maybe a list of window manufacturers and um and also maybe invite them to come for a prelim preliminary review with a you know more substantial plan because it's
hard for us to I think some photographs of the existing conditions We have to have more preliminary here with this Any any pictures that you might be able to find would be helpful and then probably an inspection of the house right we want to see whether it's looks like the actual original
um from that period Yeah Okay Yeah I think that's a huge investment for them and so if we can help guide them you know through the process I think they'd probably really appreciate that Okay
Um next item general business monitors reports I don't have anything new No one's calling me to tell me they're doing their projects So I have to now reach out because I know people are working on things but yeah So no no one
called me but uh the work has started at the house next door Eric Hilt's house Oh the chimney So the chimneys are now gone Wow Yep The scaffolding is very impressive Scaffolding Holy is there Uh
and um yeah that's what number is that is uh I think it's 2002 Yeah I think that's right Yeah it's 2002 I can look on my list Are they building them all the way down they're I don't think they're taking the
brick all the way down but they're they're doing a lot of interior work They're putting in new fireboxes and and um and everything above the roof will be doing I've actually not not not sure about uh you know exactly how far we take it
Okay Any other monitors reports no Okay Um topics not reasonably anticipated 48 48 hours in advance of the meeting So I'm sorry to say that um we received a letter from Beverly
Shook and I'll read it For the past nine years it has been my pleasure and privilege to serve on the historical commission During that time the commission has grown and changed along with the town but the mandate remains the same to preserve and protect the distinctive characteristics and settings
of buildings and structures at Westport Point And while that is often a daunting task I leave confident in and grateful for the qualified and knowledgeable group of dedicated volunteers you are My resignation from the commission shall be effective as of the date of this letter
which is April 7th 2025 Respectfully Beverly Shuk So um I just want to say Beverly has been a as she says a member of the commission for nine years Um she's been an ardent Oh that's impressive Yeah
Ardent supporter of of its mission Um and a valued member of the commission And I think we're going to miss her We will sil she's fabulous Very well We certainly will I mean she's been so um vocal and passionate Passionate about
the Exactly point and the history Oh I will miss her Yeah I know And she's been here a long time so she's have she has a lot of perspective She does Yeah Yeah So okay Well of course we're always
looking for new members So um if anybody has any ideas um it's great to have you Tim Thank you Nice Yeah we should be recruiting Yes
And what what we have uh we have six here We have six members now right well Cat too is she an alternate or Cat's an alternate katrina's an alternate right yep So um so somebody So Katrina would you like to join now as a as a full
member because Sure Okay I think Cat Cat is actually a full me Oh no no no It was She's an alternate It was at a meeting You You guys decided which one was going to be the Y And I stepped aside so that you could be full but now that there's a spot I'm happy to come back Great Okay
So let's just um What do Yeah let's let's do a vote on that So do I hear a motion i move to install Katrina Stroik as a full member of the commission I second All in favor i I All oppose
Motion passes Welcome Welcome back as a full member Okay Um the uh anything else any any other new visits no Um so I just wanted to mention that the next meeting is not
on the first Monday of the month It's May 12th and it is not here It is in the town hall basement I almost for the town The town basically just has two meeting rooms It has the select
board meeting room and it has this meeting room And those are both used I think the uh playground commission has a meeting here the night of maybe we can do at the west border I don't think I don't think there's film
there Yeah Anyway what was the date of that there it's May 12th Yeah we we agreed on this um back in 2024 but um probably don't remember Uh and it's town hall basement
It's so nice having this room It is very nice Yeah With all the cameras and everything And we used to have the equipment and everything in in the basement but it was all taken out because it wasn't Is that Yeah Does that mean that the next meeting wouldn't be televised mine come with one one camera
Okay Well thank you Great Thanks Okay Do I hear a motion to adjurnn motion to adjurnn Do you want to second seconded Second All in favor i opposed Motion passes We
are journ Thank you