WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfL4eM2eKM NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: ZwfL4eM2eKM): - 00:00:05: Discussion: Check Signing Procedures and Board Oversight - 00:05:40: Motion: Executive Director and Board Member Check Signatures - 00:11:26: Side Conversation Regarding Chair Vote, Motion Passes - 00:13:28: Management Report: Site Assessment, Finances, Projects - 00:20:20: Management Report Continued: Vacancies and Signage - 00:22:48: Old and New Business; Meeting Adjournment Setup - 00:23:56: Tenant Comments: Cleaning, Backyards and Recycling - 00:26:10: Tenant Comments: Bathroom Vent Cleaning Issue - 00:27:45: Tenant Comments: Handicap Accessibility Inquiry - 00:31:02: Tenant Comments: First Floor Transfer Request Discussed Part: 1 1 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:20.720 come by, we'll have them come in and they can sit there in the community room and look at the checks. They have any questions, they ask. Normally, they don't because but they want to sign the checks because they feel that that's their their, you know, their oversight. 2 00:00:20.720 --> 00:00:37.280 Um, you know, I'm I'm flexible. You're the board. So, you have to you have to tell me what what you're comfortable. So to to be frank with you, there's there is checks and balances in here already as we go through this the year from the budget stuff and all that kind of stuff. 3 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:53.120 There's checks and balances, how much we got and how we're doing and we're not doing and we're doing this and we're doing that. And I I'm I'm good with that. But if you want to go to a system that he just recommended, two people sign. Now, can it be any two 4 00:00:53.120 --> 00:01:08.240 of the board or we can >> Yeah, you're I don't uh I got to check. I don't think Um, I I know Tim, Pauline, and Liz are are are authorized to sign on the Rocklin account. Paul, I don't think we put you on yet as an authorized signer. 5 00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:25.200 So that going to be done >> and then and then and then and then on the other hand um just for all of our sake for the board like you said the water bill is going to be paid until we're just going to make sure that the two will succumb within a 6 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:38.159 few days to get it back. I'm okay. >> I've been here for 25 years and that's how we did it. 7 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:57.520 the way you explain it. Not the way that >> how how was it done before? I I'm not >> This was done before if if checks need to be paid paid on time. Okay. They 8 00:01:57.520 --> 00:02:17.840 would be at a meeting and we would vote for two people to be deciders on the check. And when they do, >> why do you think we need that extra extra truly? Is there some reason for 9 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:35.680 that? >> Maybe what >> maybe you might want to talk about. I'm telling you how it was done. It wasn't done by me. It was done many, many, many years ago. 10 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:52.319 and that's what they kept doing. >> But the only difference for the discussion was the welcome respect is we need more than two because if I'm on vacation and I'm I'm I'm I'm gone and I'm one of 11 00:02:52.319 --> 00:03:08.239 the signers and you're a signer now. Where's the second sign? I'm away. I'm out of the country state or something. >> So you two signers where you are. >> So that's what I'm saying. What you got to do is have all of us be silenced. 12 00:03:08.239 --> 00:03:24.800 >> Well, that's up to you. If you want, you call it that way. Fine. I'm telling you how it has been done in the past. And there's never a problem. I asked about a question on this 13 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:40.959 register here and the next register and how how do you do this? Because I've never done a scale before. and no one's told me otherwise. So, um, do as you please. 14 00:03:40.959 --> 00:03:58.000 >> I think the previous administrator did that. She she used to just she was entitled, you know, she was entitled to do whatever she wanted. uh beside the point, she she would she would sign the checks for the normal bills that had to 15 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:14.319 be paid if if it was in between or something like that. Whatever you sign when you when you look at a at a warrant, if you will, this is keep in mind when when Attalboroough took over, we institute we we went with with PHA 16 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:32.000 web software. Um there was no there was no software being used here previously. So we we went over to a a very userfriendly software program. And I say user friendly because uh you know if I can figure it out it's very user 17 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:48.800 friendly. It's just about hide proof. So what what you get every month is you you get a list of of checks that have been paid out of our operating account. This I simply asked a question but this has 18 00:04:48.800 --> 00:05:05.840 gotten to be a little over the top. I asked a question answer the question and >> you're good with it. >> You should take a vote. >> Take a vote on what? What do you want to do? Take a vote on what? Do you make a recommendation? 19 00:05:05.840 --> 00:05:23.759 >> Why are you looking at me? Um because because well I have action for everybody but my point is this is I'm not sure what you want to vote on. That's why I'm asking you. >> I didn't say I was sure I wasn't going to vote on I wanted an explanation to 20 00:05:23.759 --> 00:05:40.800 the two registers. That's what I wanted. That's all I want. >> Let me ask you a question because you brought up that Facebook and a few more. Do are you okay with the way we have it now? No. >> Okay. So, now we need to decide how 21 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:55.680 we're going to go about it moving forward and take a vote. Correct. Okay. All right. Um, I I I say this if if if you want to go to 22 00:05:55.680 --> 00:06:10.720 like it used to be years ago the way you explained except versus two signatures, I think every board member should be a signature so that any two could come in and sign 23 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:28.000 because I just think that if it's if it's if it's him and and one of us is away, then we're right back to the same property. >> It's more convenient if I be one of the signers, if I be one of the two. I'm 24 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:44.720 already authorized anyway and I I've been signing all these checks for the past 2 years. So, um that would make it easier on folks. uh if you'd like to make it myself and one board member for the for the sake of oversight. 25 00:06:44.720 --> 00:07:04.400 Um I'm I'm I'm perfectly agreeable with that. But um All right. I I I I I I would so move that we uh authorize uh routine payments 26 00:07:04.400 --> 00:07:21.440 uh from the operating account to be paid by check signed by the executive director. One uh commissioner uh 27 00:07:21.440 --> 00:07:41.759 that um a a non-rine expense uh should should be brought to the whole board for a review before decision and um I I we can certainly 28 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:58.879 reconsider that uh you know in a couple of months depending on whether that seems to But for now, that's the way I system. >> Is that is that a form of a motion? >> It's a motion. >> All right. 29 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:13.199 >> Can Can you speak up? We can't be >> Oh, I'm sorry. What I'm s I'm moving that that that we we change the method for which by which the authority pays its bills. And right now the executive 30 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:30.400 director has been paying them by his on his own initiative by by him is authorized to sign each check in those that bill. What I'm proposing based on what I understand there may be a concern from Commissioner Collins that there 31 00:08:30.400 --> 00:08:48.080 needs to be additional board oversight about checks that are paid that we convert the system so that all checks must be signed both by the executive director and one of the board members. and um that we we try that system for at 32 00:08:48.080 --> 00:09:04.240 least a month or two before we decide whether we should advise it or visit it. But for the next month at least maybe begin to begin that process. I don't I'm not I'm not eager to be put on the list 33 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:19.680 of of prisoners who can sign to do that. That's fine. Uh but if it turns out to be a uh an issue of getting those signatures in a timely fashion to be sure we pay the the water bills and the 34 00:09:19.680 --> 00:09:35.600 and the the light bills and anything else that needs to be paid um then um you know we may have to revisit that. But right now >> I'm not anticipating that it's going to be a problem because because Pauline is 35 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:50.000 >> right here >> here. So if need be, if something is time sensitive, we can have Pauline come in. We have Pauline come in anyway >> if there's if there's a bill that um you know or or 36 00:09:50.000 --> 00:10:05.120 if anyone thinks needs to be held for the meeting that that could happen. But I'm looking at the the dozen checks or two dozen checks that seem to be written every month and most of them are pretty 37 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:23.760 straightforward and non-controversial. Uh the only the only it's hard to see how scrutiny of the of the of the payments uh to uh uh you know most of these 38 00:10:23.760 --> 00:10:39.920 vendors would benefit. We're not micromanaging the we're not managing the of the executive authority uh to provide the oversight. Um but um you know to some 39 00:10:39.920 --> 00:10:55.519 extent if you think that somebody like Troy landscaping is over being overpaid um you know maybe that could be wor but I think we should be sure that we are paying our bills in the ordinary 40 00:10:55.519 --> 00:11:10.959 course of business. Let's try this system and um if it turns out to be working then we can continue it. If it turns out I'm not going to be worthy, we'll revisit it. That's that's what I'm saying. I'm I'm I'm fine with that. All 41 00:11:10.959 --> 00:11:26.800 right. That's a form of a motion. Yes, it is. Is there any discussion on the motion? Is there a second? Is there a second on the motion? I I would second that. >> I I understand. >> Okay. I second the motion. All right. 42 00:11:26.800 --> 00:11:42.480 Any discussion? All in favor? I I >> you know let me let me say something here Paul all time you just went like this 43 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:58.720 >> you didn't go like that when the vote for the chair took place. >> Oh is this all about that? >> I'm making it half about that. I don't 44 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:16.560 believe I've never heard of anybody setting up for a chair. >> Anybody? What? Setting up for a chair. >> Setting up for a chair. >> Setting up. 45 00:12:16.560 --> 00:12:33.600 >> Setting up. I don't appreciate it. >> Setting up. Did you say setting up? >> I think you understand what I'm talking No, I don't. >> Okay. >> And it's not appropriate. I don't think that's on the agenda. I don't think it's 46 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:51.720 a matter on the floor. And I think we can >> That's fine. >> I I I'm happy to under to talk to you about it. It's something I go off the record, but uh I have my opinion on who I believe will be the best chair of this commission and I continue to maintain my 47 00:12:53.839 --> 00:13:11.920 >> So there's a motion. >> There is a motion. All in favor? >> I said. Yeah. Okay. >> Any opposed? One abstain. Right. >> So, just just for the sake of the 48 00:13:11.920 --> 00:13:28.320 minutes, there were there were three votes in the affirmative and none of the negative and one abstension. >> Okay. Yeah. Got it. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Moving on. Uh we do management report yet? 49 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:43.519 >> Uh management agent report. Uh yeah, I'll just uh just just go over a couple of things. Um your um not not in any particular order, but the work order report and the vacancy report. Um each month is in your um is in your board 50 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:58.959 packet for your review. Um again, if there's any if there's any questions regarding uh you know, specific work orders, um you can address that to me. outside of the meeting. Um that very first thing on the agenda uh there is 51 00:13:58.959 --> 00:14:15.760 EOHLC site assessment. Um the Executive Office of Housing has um has contracted with a company um to do site assessments of all 243 housing authorities in the state of Massachusetts. 52 00:14:15.760 --> 00:14:30.880 And um uh Westport was one of the first ones out of the gate. We had our our site assessment last Friday. uh the company came in, they walked through I think seven apartments um they they looked at our you know infrastructure at 53 00:14:30.880 --> 00:14:50.000 our um you know common areas and so forth. And uh uh this whole exercise is to is to come up with a dollar figure for the entire state of what it would cost to totally upgrade and modernize 54 00:14:50.000 --> 00:15:07.040 the public housing stock. that's available right now. Um, and that number, by the way, is going to be in the billions, obviously. >> Um, you know, we have here at Westport, and I and I say this all the time, when you drive in here, you look around, 55 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:22.320 you know, as far as as far as public housing goes, I I think our buildings and our grounds look really good. The inside of the apartments obviously are are very dated and they need upgrading. We know that. and that was part of what 56 00:15:22.320 --> 00:15:39.199 they they were evaluating. So that uh that occurred last Friday. Um so we'll have more to say on that. Um basically once all the housing authorities have have have been surveyed and have been looked at. I would imagine 57 00:15:39.199 --> 00:15:54.959 there's going to be a some sort of general report issue at some point down the road. When that happens, I can follow up with the board and let and let the board know what the school is. You're talking like lighting and LED lighting and retrofitting this and that. 58 00:15:54.959 --> 00:16:10.320 >> Yeah, there's a whole host of things probably some equipment, you know, change things out so it's more efficient, you know, bring your cost down with the electric bill and so on so forth. >> And again, a lot of it's apples and oranges. You know, Westport is not the same as local, >> right? 59 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:27.279 >> And you know, North Attleboroough is not the same as Boston. So everybody has their own needs and and uh but this is an attempt by the executive office of housing to say okay um if we want to maintain what we have how are we going 60 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:42.399 to do that so and how much is it going to cost so that um so that exercise happened last week. Okay. Um so uh also in your board packet are the financial reports through March. Um you can see 61 00:16:42.399 --> 00:17:00.720 that the uh we're actually doing very very well. We have um our let's see all of our line items all of our budgeted line items are well under 62 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:19.039 budget. um the exception of the uh gas and and and the electricity, but that's that's really out of our control to a certain degree. But we're standing very very healthy. We've got 67% reserves. Um with 63 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:34.720 one quarter to go, I'm not anticipating that there's going to be too much of a change in that. Um our siding project or our painting project is about to get underway. They um they uh you know, you wouldn't know it over the past couple of 64 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:50.720 days, but uh you know, the weather in you know, March and April was a little chilly, so they weren't able to start right when they they wanted to. I'm I have a conference call scheduled with the architect coming up, I believe, tomorrow. So, I should have an update as 65 00:17:50.720 --> 00:18:08.000 far as when um when that's going to be. Um, in fact, if you look at page, I included an email in your board pack and on page 26 from the architect. Um, 66 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:22.799 so waiting until the second week of May to assess conditions the closer we get to that date. So, we're we're almost we're almost ready to to start that project. That's our only state project right now 67 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:42.080 that's that uh that's in the pipeline. Um prior to that I mentioned the vacancy report. Um one thing that uh is also in your board packet actually that's I I don't have in your 68 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:58.000 board packet now however I'll mention it. Um, we we make every effort to mirror the ethical the the ethnical the ethnic composition of the statistical area that 69 00:18:58.000 --> 00:19:13.760 we live in, which is Fall River. Um and uh the Westport Housing Authority does a very good job of kind of marketing to folks through our CHAMP system if we're if we are are below a certain ethnic you 70 00:19:13.760 --> 00:19:29.919 know group in the composition. So um I just let everybody know that um we look at that on an annual basis. So if we whenever we get a vacancy for example, if we um if we are 71 00:19:29.919 --> 00:19:45.520 not in compliance with what the metropolitan statistical area says, we make an effort to to be in compliance by by marketing to those groups through the CHAMP system. Doesn't mean that we're going to get people from that ethnic 72 00:19:45.520 --> 00:20:02.799 group, okay? For example, Hispanics and African-Americans. Uh, but we try to fill with those ethnic groups to the best of our ability. So, we do that. Um, outside of that, I don't really have much else. I mentioned the vacancy 73 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:20.880 report. Um, and and the work order. David is on vacation this week. Uh, so he'll be back on Tuesday. Um, outside of that, that's all I have. >> The vacancy, you thought, could you go over that with me a little bit with us? >> Sure. 74 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:37.520 just says to what we got for vacancies here. >> I believe we have um we have one vacant two. No, that must be >> okay. So So there's one. >> There's none right now. Okay. All right. All right. That's all. 75 00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:56.000 >> So the uh I I I know I know Christina who's also on vacation. She um she had a list pulled on the champ system and she identified somebody. I I was not aware that it was uh that was good. 76 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:13.200 Well, okay. Hey, and well, well, just prove that just just for everybody, the public and everybody that I, you know, could kind of go off to a little way to stop that this meeting is being videotaped. I 77 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:38.080 just want to make sure. And then um one last thing uh which has has been brought up in the past uh signature signs has been out. We have our sign. Okay. We're just we're just we're just kind of trying to decide 78 00:21:38.080 --> 00:21:54.799 where where to place it so that it's most visible. the the place that I had originally wanted it, they were not able to put it there as they were on the as you're driving out on the right because there's there's too much stuff there. So, we went to the other side of the 79 00:21:54.799 --> 00:22:12.080 driveway on the left, which was good. However, if you put a sign in a certain place when you're pulling out of here, you you don't want to block anybody's vision coming on. But if you put the sign vertically, >> no one's going to see it. So they're 80 00:22:12.080 --> 00:22:28.720 they're sort of working out a way to, you know, kitty corner it so it can be back in further. >> Right. So I'm just I want to reassure I want I want to reassure Paul that uh we it is in the it is in the works and the 81 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:48.640 sign will be out shortly. Mr. Chair, >> I I unfortunately have another commitment that take so I may be excused. >> Yes, you may. Thank you. Thank you. Want to leave it for me? 82 00:22:48.640 --> 00:23:05.760 >> Oh, all right. And and uh and if you have any questions about anything, you can reach out to me. Thank you. Very good. Okay. Um um moving on. Old anything under old 83 00:23:05.760 --> 00:23:23.039 business hearing none. How about new business? >> Says next meeting to be determined. Are we looking at a April 15th meeting? >> Uh whatever the third Wednesday in June is. I believe that's the 17th. 84 00:23:23.039 --> 00:23:56.400 >> Yeah, I think you're right. >> Cuz that's a Monday. Yeah. June 7. Okay. Um, commissioners comments if there's any 85 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:15.120 any comments by the commissions hearing. None. How about um tenant comments? There we go. Go ahead. Paul, where were the cleaning ladies? >> I have to I have to follow up with them. 86 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:32.640 They had um they had an illness on their staff which which has sort of delayed them. Um so I will in fact I'll make a call today to get them down here. >> Okay. 87 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:49.679 >> Any anyone else? Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. Um, are we going to have our backyard clean this year? >> Backyard? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, I can I can double check with David on that. >> Well, 88 00:24:49.679 --> 00:25:06.320 last year we've been asking and it's still the same way. >> Okay. I will um I'll talk to Dave when he gets back next Tuesday. I'll make it a point and hopefully we can set something up. >> Yeah. This is getting pretty ridiculous 89 00:25:06.320 --> 00:25:23.120 now >> in the backyard. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Moving all the way towards the front. >> Okay. >> Is there anyone else with a question? Go ahead. >> Yeah. I was wondering the the recycle 90 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:38.960 bins. We have them like they're in the back of the ovens. If it can be lined up might make it easier because we can't get to the ones in the back. 91 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:53.679 >> The ones at least once a week David recycles so that the ones in the front move to the back ones that are full. The empty ones are moved in front. He does that. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah, I'll I'll talk to David on that, 92 00:25:53.679 --> 00:26:10.080 too. Okay. Anybody else? Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. It's been mentioned before in the past by several other ten a couple of other tenants not sever couple of the tenants about cleaning the vents above the the tub in the bathroom. 93 00:26:10.080 --> 00:26:25.840 >> Yeah. >> That hasn't been done and this has been now 2 years. >> That's typically not something that the housing authority gets involved with. >> Why not? It's part of housing. 94 00:26:25.840 --> 00:26:42.480 We we don't we don't go in and clean bathroom. >> So why lieutenant pay or somebody come in to do that when it's a problem of housing? >> What do you mean you I will I don't understand that. >> All right. Don't don't be disrespectful either. Okay. I'm answering 95 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:57.440 >> I'm asking your question. I don't understand. >> I'm answering your question. All right. I will I will look into it. In fact, when I have the cleaning company when I have the cleaners come in, I will see if they can do it. I don't think 96 00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:11.200 >> Excuse me. >> I don't I don't think they can do that. It has to be professionally done. >> Well, if you pull the cover down in past experience, it's just a vac back vacuum. 97 00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:29.360 >> Well, no. That way involves duct work. >> There's a duck. >> Oh, you want the whole duct work up here. >> It's full of It's all full of dust and everything else. I mean that be something that would be crazy at 12 bids. You just can't bring >> Well, let me let me start off by asking 98 00:27:29.360 --> 00:27:45.520 the initial question. >> Yeah. >> To see if that's something that can be done and then if it is, >> maybe I can get that incorporated into what the cleaning company charges. >> Okay. Okay. Um I like once a year or something. 99 00:27:45.520 --> 00:28:04.480 >> Yeah. Yeah. Um we'll get to that. >> Okay. All right. Anyone else question? >> I have a question with regards to your your site um your site assessments. What percentage 100 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:20.960 of that uh is earmarked for handicap accessibility? Just a general question. Uh the company that you're using, do you have the name of the company by chance? >> Bureau Veritas. And do you have a certain amount or a certain percentage that's earmarked 101 00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:36.399 specifically to handicap accessibility? I know beautifification is important, but I'm just curious to know what type of percentages because normally when you're getting government or state assistance, there's usually about 20% or more. Do you have an idea of that? 102 00:28:36.399 --> 00:28:51.679 >> I'm not familiar with what their scope was. I I don't know if that was something that they that they that they um um you know evaluated when they were here. I know they wanted to see based upon the size of the development 48 103 00:28:51.679 --> 00:29:08.320 units. They they wanted to go into seven units. So they they entered seven units. At least one of the seven was was was the vacant that we had at the time I believe. But I don't know if I don't think they asked any specific questions regarding um accessibility. I don't 104 00:29:08.320 --> 00:29:23.279 think so. >> I can follow up though and find out. >> Yeah, I'm just curious. Um because it would it's twofold, right? So accessibility as far as the complex goes and then of course accessibility, you know, to and 105 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:40.480 from apartments and any type of accessibility that might be needed. Although I know that some of your apartment you have a limited amount of apartments that are here for handicapp but as residents get older um you know they might need some added assistance 106 00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:56.159 even though they're not in a deemed accessibility apartment um that we might be able to address. >> I agree. Yeah, we take um you know uh sometimes what happens um and I can I can check the list. We have second floor 107 00:29:56.159 --> 00:30:11.840 residents, for example, that have difficulty with stairs and they they very often can be put on on a transfer list when a first floor unit becomes available to move down to the first floor, which would help them somewhat. Um, 108 00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:30.559 >> are there bars on the second level for people that have balance issues so that they can hold on to it in the hallways? >> Yes. >> Just out of curiosity. and the answers and then bedrooms back hallway. They do have the uh but I was one of the people that was on 109 00:30:30.559 --> 00:30:47.520 the second floor. I have a list that affects my mobility. So I when building when an apartment became available in my building I was able to move down to the first level. People don't want to leave their buildings. They get used to the the same tenants and company. 110 00:30:47.520 --> 00:31:02.480 I think it's a a safety and a comfort issue too knowing your neighbors and all that too. So that's >> I uh just question about that as far as uh I've only been here a little over a 111 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:18.880 year and I've had a lot of problems with my illness as far as walking. Um, I've had a two strokes and it's getting to a point where it's going to be it's a lot tougher. 112 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:34.399 The question to add is I love my apartment. I got beautiful my apartment's been all redone that type of future but is is it possible if it did come up downstairs? 113 00:31:34.399 --> 00:31:51.120 >> Yeah. Well, all you would need to do is let us know officially that you want to move. Just fill out a transfer form. We have that on file and then um I don't know how many people how many second floor people right now are on that list >> cuz I'm on disability too, 114 00:31:51.120 --> 00:32:07.679 >> you know, when I get all like I said right now I'm I'm getting by might get worse, >> right? And typically just and and I think Pauline, you might know this and Liz, you might know this as well, but the we 115 00:32:07.679 --> 00:32:25.600 we normally I think it's um it's four or five to one that we uh that we do a transfer as opposed to taking somebody off the list. Now, if we suddenly see that there's a lot of people that need transfers that are on the second floor, 116 00:32:25.600 --> 00:32:42.159 um we can override that. the state, you know, standard is you you house four people off the waiting list, then you do a transfer, then four and one, four and one. However, if if the transfer list is getting long where, hey, look, you know, 117 00:32:42.159 --> 00:32:58.720 there there's there's some issues here, folks that are on the second floor that need a first floor unit. Um, we can override that four to one thing and move people, you know, administratively. When when somebody when somebody somebody new applies here, is that one of the 118 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:14.960 questions that that gets to ask them if they need, you know, a bottom floor or or >> I was lucky cuz I when I went through all this system to get in, it took it 119 00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:30.880 would take like 6 months to a year. I got in within two months because the representative a lot of people helped me out because of the situation. But the thing is uh 120 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:47.519 I don't mind the cost I get thrown out. You know what I'm saying? But I I'd like to see what what would happen in this situation. >> Sure. Sure. No. And that's you know and that's you know that's fine. That's fine. But that's that's how we typically 121 00:33:47.519 --> 00:34:02.640 do it. >> Yeah. >> Um but >> you know, we've we know as people age, >> it it gets harder for folks, especially longer term. >> Um so we so we take that under advising 122 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:18.000 all the time. >> Okay. Anything else? All right. Motion to All right. Second. All in favor? I any opposed 123 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:22.159 hear and none. So move.