Great. >> Finance committee meeting Tuesday, October 21st. It's 3:00. We'll walk through the agenda. First item, reorg the committee. Last time we agreed to wait until more members joined before JD
taking over. >> Second review and vote to approve any previous meeting minutes. Pete did circulate those. Yeah. Chen. >> Any motion? Any changes you'd like to see? I make a motion that we approve the minutes of the previous meeting
>> and I'll second them. >> Great. All those in favor? >> I unanimous. All special town meeting to review and discuss additional warrants items. >> So there's just one new article
in your draft. You'll see article two. It's a request to transfer free cash to for the reserve fund. This is to trans right now we have 20,000 appropriated to our reserve fund which is our standard
and what that's what was appropriated at annual town meeting. This is a request to transfer an additional 30,000 from free cash to that reserve fund. The reason for this is in is in anticipation for the winter
um maintenance requirements and due to the vehicle issues that we have because we're already in the fiscal year and we didn't appropriate capital funds for a replacement of a vehicle. The best and cheapest option right now is to do a rental of a plow sander vehicle. um as
well as to purchase a standard for the main superintendent's uh vehicle or truck. Um those costs will be about 31,000. So if we move 30,000 into that into that reserve fund when and if the highway department definitively needs
that, they can simply come to the finance committee and request a reserve fund transfer because it's an unanticipated expense because it's temporary. It's based on the weather. Um therefore we don't have to go to a town meeting for an additional capital request. It's just to go and tide us
over during the current fiscal year for that temporary which is the rental and the the sander element. >> Question they identify the equipment >> the the two items I just >> they know they available. >> Yep. >> So do we have to have another meeting for him to come over to us to get this stuff?
>> Yes. Yeah. >> This is first until this is done first. >> I'm confused. This is first asking you how many to fill the bucket. >> Yeah. >> To increase the bucket so that your reserve fund the the fund that you as
the finance committee have control over. >> Okay. >> To first fill that so that there's enough money in there and then when Garrett needs to, he can request and put in a uh reserve fund request to the finance committee to say here's an invoice. I need this in order to rent
that vehicle or to purchase that sander. Here's a dollar amount. Will you approve? >> Data on the vehicle. might break down. It is broken. >> Oh, it is broken. >> We know that it's not broken. >> It's not functional. >> And the same with the sander. >> It's just we want an additional sander and so the new pickup truck didn't have
one so as to get a sander for that. >> Makes complete sense to me. See? >> Yeah. >> So, we go to town meeting in mid November >> and then he'll turn right around and say, "Here you go." I just be worried about weather and lead time on getting equipped. He's already got a reserve.
>> Both of them are on hold. Yes. >> Both suppliers are aware that we do want them. >> So at the staff. >> Okay. Excellent. >> All right. Motion to approve. >> I make a motion to approve article two. Approve transfer of free cash to the
reserve fund in the summer $30,000. >> Second. >> Those in favor? >> I unanimous. I'm translating that to that you're recommending favorable action. >> Yes. >> Only town meeting approved. >> All right. I recommend favorable action. >> I second it. I'm going to write that
down. >> Thank you, Pete. >> All right. >> Next item to discuss and select a representative from this committee to the Frontier Fulltown meeting group to talk about
their potential no meeting group. >> Yeah. So, what this is is the the four town administrators of the frontier region. Um, we've been discussing that it might be helpful for the representatives from the select
board and the finance committee of each of the four towns to meet at least once, if not maybe making it an ongoing meeting where the the four towns can discuss shared services, bring those discussions back to their primary boards. Um, since it's only one rep from
each one of those boards, it doesn't require a meeting notice. It's essentially just a liaison, um, you can't make any decisions during those group meetings. It's simply to have a conversation about shared services, either existing shared services or new shared services you'd like to examine,
and then you bring them back to your finance committee or the select board um, and what those things might entail. But it's simply for those four towns to have the appropriate representatives there to kind of discuss those items.
>> Care services or the EMS? >> We have the EMS and the senior center. >> So when you say frontier, it's only meeting the four towns part of Frontier School District. This is not >> strictly for the the school. It's nothing to do with the school. >> So who are the towns? >> Thunderland, Weightley,
Conway, and Deerfield. So this isn't anything to do with the school. >> It's not necessarily to do with the school. It is a shared service. Obviously the frontier reachment is a shared service essentially. >> Um but it's for the four towns since we do essentially do a lot of different
work together just to have us starting to uh discuss some of those services >> how we could find other ways to um share additional services to reduce the cost for each of the different towns. It's a fantastic
>> one of those shared services that people want. Now, for example, >> George, for right now, like the highway departments, they share a little um used Verizon fleet truck for stuff we share with Deerfield and Sunland. >> It's a great way for the town. >> No, but I'm wondering if there are new
services that people are saying, you know, we really should do XY. That's so that's the purpose of this meeting is for each of those towns to discuss, hey, I've heard from my residents that they would like to see X. >> Do one of you three offer that. How can
we now make it a shared service? Right? >> That's the that's what you're kind of there for is to discuss ideas, requests, things we've heard, >> hear about from things from the other towns. >> Who has the right to bring an idea? Could I the blue say, "Oh, I think we
should, you know, have a shared basketball." >> It is a very informal meeting. So, sort of about rights or not. Okay. >> It's simply for the representatives of the town >> being one member of finance and one member of >> Exactly. Yeah. Just to have a informal
conversation. Again, it's not formal. You're not voting. You're not making decisions. You're just kind of playing those things out, having those discussions of is this something we should explore? and say one more time why it's not covered by the open meeting. >> Because there's no it's not an appointed
body and there's not a quorum of members from each of the boards. >> Okay. >> That said, I think sounds like a great idea relative to bundling services looking for ways to reduce operating costs. >> Are there any meeting minutes for that that we can see that comes out? >> It's not copy. >> So there's no waiting.
>> Okay. Oh, there's very many. >> So we'd have to rely on the liaison. Sure. >> Yeah. That's the responsibility of the liaison to bring that information back. >> Okay. >> Which would then fall under liazison updates. >> Y >> perfect. >> So then does this group already exist?
>> We're forming formulating >> that's literally why I'm trying to get >> it doesn't exist and we need somebody. >> That's why I was starting with saying that the four town administrators have discussed that we to do this. >> It does not happen. >> I've got a lot on my plate right now.
>> Yeah, I do too. from the energy committee and I'm looking into some of our >> Oh, I have that print out. Sorry. >> I think I >> Okay, >> there's some interesting >> I'm willing to do it yourself. Somebody's going to have to coach me because I know nothing. >> There's no coaching.
Remember, this doesn't exist. What you're going to do is >> I mean coaching in in an informal sense. You know, I come into your office and say, "What the hell is this kind of thing?" You're you're going to learn it by going to the meeting.
>> Yeah. During questions or concerns, you're more than welcome to bring them to PE and >> it's just like I get the sense it's just like a round table. >> Exactly. It's just a brainstorming. But the brainstorming is the necessary reason why we want a finance committee member and a select board member is because the select board member acts as
the executive body, right? So they do a lot of the decision making. The finance committee is supposed to be aware of what the town weightbe can and can't absorb financially where it has difficulty in its finances. Um, so
that's why if you have somebody with an executive power and somebody with a financial background from each of the towns, you can brainstorm how might be able to like share those services reduced. >> Well, the key thing there would be financial background which I have not. I
mean, you know, I'm not a expert on finances. I'm not familiar with the history of them. >> So, in that sense, I'm not sure I'd be the right person. >> Well, so I would say nobody is right.
Um, it's a brainstorming session. And so during that brainstorming, again, no decision-m is happening. the representative from the finance committee would then come back to the finance committee as well say, "Hey, we discussed this." There's an idea, there
was a request to add a new uh shared service of X. It could possibly cost us $10,000 a year. Do we think that that's something that we could absorb looking at last year's budget? Because that last year's budget is published on the town website. review that. But you as a body after the
representative heard back discusses it with the full committee because again >> that rep's not making any decisions. >> You're just a sponge. >> You might you might come back and say it's too much for me and I recommend someone else. You might say >> I think that's a great idea.
>> I make a motion to nominate. Oh, >> do you think it's right? If you end up not it not being a right fit, we just come back to the committee and we just do a swift around. >> No, my only feeling about it is how do we know what towns people would
like? >> That's what the select boards represent our responsibility is. They are elected by the towns people. So they're the ones that are bringing in to that's not the finance committees. your the finance committee could say, "Hey, we've noticed
our highway department costs have been going up every year and year. >> We as a finance committee would like to find a way to do a shared service." Exactly. Now, based on community members, that's select board. Let them worry about this. The community members
just share all this. Why don't we have four police departments? I mean, can I bring that question to the group or >> you I mean you could you probably should discuss that with the finance committee before there's >> I
lease departments. Yeah. But you it pro but again it's a brainstorming session. So there's no harm in you doing it. >> The other finance committees or select board reps would say oh well we've kind of thought about that 20 years ago and this is why. Perfect. Make a motion to appoint George Reynolds
to >> the four town frontier for town meeting room as our representative. You're overqualified. >> Go find that. >> I think so. >> George himself. >> I >> Yes.
>> Great. >> All right. Okay. >> So, can you send me like people I should be in contact with or >> Well, what's what happened is >> I'll have the person that's organizing it contact you. there. I'm giving them the names of our reps where they report
and if we have any ideas, >> we got the support of the committee. >> Go. All right. >> Next item to discuss the potential financial review process. I had a um I had asked for this to be
added. I did have the discussion with our new town accountant and our new town treasurer James Jennifer. Um, which I found to be very positive. Um, the conversation for me started with I really didn't understand how our free
cash which was set at 250 at town meeting burned down suddenly went to $830,000 three months later. And from that it I also identified um there was a significant amount of personal property tax and real estate
tax receivable which counts against that number. So I thought it'd be helpful to have conversations on a standing basis with them and then also um I like to reach out to the select board to see if they might want to also participate. um
they indicated a willingness to meet on a quarterly basis which I think would be very healthy and I think it certainly happened before or just as we're getting into the budget season so we go in but understanding where does everybody
stand. So for example on the town expense side they ended the year 430,000 below budget driven by a variety of factors across a variety of departments but we didn't know that we went in and went through the budget process this was
going to happen and so I' I'd like to have just a more um informed situation when we sit down to actually discuss budget moves >> and what's the goal >> so the goal is routine meeting to say Hey, what are you doing about your $115,000
worth of real estate and personal tax outstanding? We need to go get money. And hey, what are we doing about being over or under? Was that a timing issue or is that a real cost savings issue? Is that everybody comes in and level funds
from the prior year, but in actuality they're not spending as much. similar to your committee they agreed to join um 135 >> uh looking for ways to just to identify because I think we should be educated as a group.
>> Yeah. But my my gut question about that is that that all sounds great but isn't that their job? >> Whose job? >> People are you talking to? I mean aren't should aren't those questions things those people should be asking all the time?
>> I don't know. I don't understand why we have to ask that question. >> We're the my understanding was we're the finance committee that has to approve the operating budgets or recommend. >> We don't approve anything. That's what I just >> recommend for you action. >> We recommend Yeah.
>> Right. But I like to not do it in a vacuum as I did last year. I like to do it. >> Did we do it in a vacuum? >> No, we didn't do it in a vacuum last year. So, >> if I could step it back for a second. >> Sure. Our budget sheets always show what was actually expended in a year. Yep.
>> Versus what they're requesting. And you as a finance committee should be looking at those sheets to ask the question, hey, you only spent in FY24 450,000, but you're asking for 600,000. >> And that's in the sheets that you were
given. So you are actually shown those differences. And they did all the department did explain why they were doing increases. Um, >> so you are giving board level funding whatever it might be >> but it is given to you during the budget
uh submitt so you are getting those um to George's point those staff members are doing those things it's um there is a timing thing you can't guarantee that just because a tax bill is due that somebody is going to be able to pay it because guess what there are some that
are in uh foreclosure or in bankruptcy and that they their bills are going to go up for time And so we cannot force that after outside of court procedure. So there are things where there is going to be a delay or it gets carried over into the next fiscal year because unfortunately
we just don't have that right until they are finances. And that's that's just a reality of >> right on that point at the end of June the real estate tax receivable was $89,000. As of as of yesterday, it's now down to
27 >> because the treasur is sending out demand letters and she's making calls and she's pushing, >> right? >> But it would have been nice to have done that >> earlier. At least be aware of how how it built. >> I would I would be very cautious to say
that it wasn't done. >> It was done. Yeah, >> those things again if there were outstanding debts or bankruptcies they can't collect on there and it if it happened now that they could finally collect on it. It doesn't mean that it
wasn't done before. Correct. >> It just means that it's caught up based on the procedure. There are outstanding circumstances that we cannot control. >> Absolutely. But I quickly to to Jerry's point though, a finance committee should
be aware of where those things are. Should not color that a staff member is not doing something. I would caution about coloring, but I would say you should be aware. So I think it is good that you have quarterly meetings.
>> Caution where you're putting deficits or right cut reaction. >> Yeah. >> I had one more question over what you said. You said that something I forget the exact number something went from 200,000 to 800,000 >> round numbers
>> and but are those are the things that happened anything that you could have predicted earlier? >> Yes. The reason is because when we do our total budget sheet and I show you
>> somebody silent >> um >> I'll let the record show >> when we do the full budget sheet there is um a column that we do where we look at um expected or anticipated tax rate and we also put in there expected new
growth. Um, new growth includes like building permits and motor vehicle excise and all of those other things that are outside of the real estate and personal tax. Um, we always the town has always been very conservative in
estimating what was going to get in receipts in case there was a downturn. We continue to do the conservative estimation, meaning that we always expect to receive less. So we tax based on receiving less but then we end up receiving more
>> so >> and result in a larger free tax. >> So this has been an annual thing for a while. >> It has been a standard operating procedure on the financial basis for at least 15 years. Um it goes back a few town administrators
>> uh just as a way to safeguard the town in case there was that financial issue where if we had overestimate or we estimated based on the previous year and then suddenly there was a bad economic downturn. we essentially weren't taxing at the proper rate and now we didn't
collect enough on the residential property tax because and the the new growth was too small and then we didn't have enough to cover our budgets. >> So that's the one of the main drivers of why we end up seeing a lot in our
precache is because we do underestimate those dollars. >> Right? So out of the gap of call it 600,000 it looks like about 400k of it is this operation savings. I haven't been able to dig down enough yet to look
determine the other point where it might be but it's a conversation I'm having um in my head um I have spoken to a select board person who said we used to do reviews on a standing basis in the town um until co and then people went to zoom
and then it just sort of fell off. So over the last go on three or four years a structured financial review to say here's where we are and here's where we're going hasn't occurred but there is interest in it restarted which is why I brought it forth to the committee. >> Good idea.
>> So do you guys agree what I'd like to do is I'll reach out to the select board and see take that temperature and then we'll figure out how to >> so this would be a quarterly meeting >> I So, you know, >> I was just wondering whether we have this whole review process that starts
with January, right? >> Yeah. >> I mean, is that the time to do it or that's too late or >> sort of do it before that? So, >> should it be done before that? >> I I think you do it like now would be about the time to do it because the >> financials for September close were sent
out and then you'd have a meeting to talk to them >> and then you'd have another one in January for the second quarter >> and then you go into your budget season. So at least you knew what was going on, right? >> But we do start the budget season with a
financial outlook over the from the previous year. >> Um and what we see going forward, but and it kind of gives you like a very broad >> teaching of what it is, what the budget process is like. >> Put the schedule together. >> What's that?
>> When do you put the meeting schedule together? I already put it together, but I'll be presenting it to you guys at the first meeting in January, December, adjusting, but thankfully now we we are still going to begin the budget season while the departments I plan on getting
them their budget sheets next week. >> Okay. So that they still will submit by the end of December. We will still start and kick off our finance budget reviews in January. >> Yeah. >> Town meeting is no longer till June going forward. So, it does mean that we
have it in May. Thankfully, it gives us a little more breathing room. >> Um, but I'm using last year's schedule right by March. So, >> okay. >> That's why we did the funny schedule in March was because the March uh spring
vacation week is >> I the school vacation week. I take my >> third week of February. I take my kids to Florida. So, I'm not here for that. Last week has to meet. >> That's okay. We do the second and fourth. We'll do the first. We leave Valentine's Day for a week. >> Okay. Well, we'll we'll look at that
schedule in January and we can adjust it. >> It's not pretty fast. >> We can just go with you with >> Yeah. price. >> You can join us, Chris. >> Great. Next item. Leison updates.
>> Wait, sorry. When back to this financial review. Yes. Are you saying the whole finance committee is going to meet with those two department heads or one person? >> I think probably a representative from the select board, somebody from the finance committee.
>> I think that makes more sense just that we organ James our town accountant is a very part-time staff member. I would like to recommend fulltime but um it is a very part-time role 15 hours. So, I just
>> uh I don't want to overburden that. Thankfully, if it's only quarterly, that shouldn't be a problem. >> Yeah, he felt pretty comfortable with that. >> Yeah. If it was monthly, I'd be a little more nervous about the time of the patient on that, but yeah. >> Yeah. And he also um it's a good working room. I was very impressed. Um I learned that the town
software isn't a software. It's five different programs that don't talk with each other. And as a result, the treasurer has to input items and then give them to James to input because they're in different systems. >> So we talked a little bit about the need for consolidation, cloud-based
computing etc. >> But different let them get settled in positions first. >> They don't use Amazon web service. >> Unfortunately, what% of companies >> I think they got >> they got it fixed. Um but there's definitely some opportunities the other
channels that prior for you to talk about because like my FCC IP meetings they talked about how the permitting data comes through the assessors and accounting all that stuff and how they're integrating all that >> nothing's integrated. So I can't I asked him is it possible to run
a yeartoate monthby-month operating statement for the town? Can't be done. The system's not sophisticated enough. The only way to do it is to set up a Excel spreadsheet and dump the data, >> right? >> Which if he's willing to give it to me, I can do it because I'd like to see how
we're spending the money. By example, do how does the bill flow actually work? people wait and then jam it in at the end. Um or is it a routine smooth? He says usually it gets to being pretty frenetic at the end and that puts like
as you said he's a two day a week person that's a lot of pressure. So these are just questions that come to my mind how to make things more efficient. >> Well I I nominate you as the representative >> too late.
going to have other committee members soon. >> I'm an idea guy. >> Oh yeah, well [Music] send software. >> They should. >> They should. >> I know our representative to that working group will bring that out
>> there. There would be no savings. I'm just putting that out and letting you know there won't be any savings >> for bundling software >> because it's always based on license and the implementation is based on your particular setup in your system here. So the implementation cost has to be divested >> and then the it's always based on
license. >> Implementation could be tricky. It's hard to >> Yeah. Yeah. You got to move the data. You got to start it up. >> It's a process. >> I've been through that process. Not that we shouldn't. I I agree. >> We need a singular system. I've been trying to look at some. Unfortunately,
the big players are extremely expensive, but they have very solid systems, but >> trying to get something cheap is going to be difficult that does what we want. Um, >> but I I agree. We definitely >> because I don't even have insight to
>> makes no sense. >> I I have no sight. >> My point is a no way to find a report. So, >> we're online then. Yeah, that's good. Um, leazison updates JD. >> There's none. >> Um, the select board meeting is that
tomorrow. So hopefully they'll bring up the concept of the building working group. We talk about the three major pieces we talked about at the last meeting. >> Oh the building >> the town building or the municipal building. >> Yeah, correct.
>> That's the recommendation tomorrow is to create the group or at least establish it, but then we have to solicit um the way it's going to be is the way it's done for a lot of the other towns. You have residents that serve it, but then you have non- voting liaison from your
finance committee and your select board that attend those meetings. >> But the residents who re the recommendation is uh somebody in the construction field, somebody with an legal background, an architect, an engineer, and then there was a fifth one
that I'm suddenly forgetting. Um the residents act as a committee but liaison from finance and uh select board. >> Interesting. >> I'd like to be on that committee whether as a resident or as liazison it's a matter I'd rather have Jerry on the committee too but >> likewise yeah I think we both should be
>> we'll put out >> coming at it in a different direction. >> We'll be putting out once the select board agrees to it I'll put out a call volunteers for the middle of interest. >> Is there any interest for new finance committee members? I know there's some advertising for it as they got >> there is advert. I don't know. Um,
>> yeah, >> it's Nat, but I did put Did I put you or me as the people we contacted? >> I I I'm not sure. >> One of us, but nobody's >> They might have gone to Nat directly. Okay. >> We just don't want personal. >> You guys know anybody or
>> Well, I recommended someone to that and Oh, >> you did? >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Yeah. If you have any recommendations, please. >> Yeah. I reckon >> one >> he said he was waiting to hear all >> it was kind of a vague response from
>> one member that will likely be appointed is is Lynn Sly. >> Oh, that's we heard that before. >> Lynn can't serve currently because she is an employee >> and we have a rule that employees can't serve on the finance committee. Um but she will be stepping away from that
position at the end of the year and then be able to join the family. >> Is that rule uh statemandated because we could change that which might be reasonable as long as um you know that person could not vote on matters
affecting their budget. You could. Yeah. Apparently, it's in the finance committee bylaws, but [Music] >> but Lynn knows of it because she's been here for 20 plus years and so she knew
that that was a restriction, but we don't we can't find the document yet. >> That's so interesting. >> Let me back up just one second. So is the current sort of thinking direction for the police that the police department is going to move into this
building that a new building is going up for the the highway department and what's the third one >> is that sort of elementary school >> elementary school I mean well obviously the elementary school is got but is that sort of
is that momentum happening now is that where we're headed or that's all up for grabs >> the only momentum is the garage the wait garage that's the only momentum. >> So there's no sort of predetermined thing that the police department's going to >> No, because there's been no funding like
we put funding behind the study for the garage. We did not put any funding behind the moving of the police department. >> I had thought to move the transfer station the deo property on route five handcap accessible gets them out of the
highway refractor. the demand property room with the transfer station there. >> The only problem is >> the transfer station makes the most sense where it is currently because it has no dollar value due to the limited
access that's there. If you go >> hold on, >> the property itself, the lot itself has a much higher dollar value to us to see developed as opposed to just using it as a transfer. Okay, >> that transfer station would be the
lowest >> or parking lot would be the one of the worst lowest possible uses for such a prime piece of land. >> Right. I I joined the housing committee uh a couple meetings ago and I've been
doing some birding on that particular property to see if it could be developed into housing. um potentially helping the town out with its requirements, statemandated requirements for affordable housing or workforce housing. I am finding creative ways to deal with
the fact the site is fairly constrained >> and there's no septic. Um >> well, there is huge septic fields, but to support housing Yeah. >> you need much more. Um >> Oh, you mean there's no sewer?
>> There's no sewer, right? >> Right. Uh but the septic that you'd have to put in there um would be traditionally take up a lot of land and could be very expensive there. Now >> we already have a study done though for that property. >> I've read Yeah.
>> Um but they recommend leech fields under parking lots. >> Um I did identify a wastewater treatment plant. They're minis um that take about 400 square feet and you can potentially take the filtered water and it can be
drained under mass environmental EPA law right into the brooks because it's pure than what's coming out of many things and so they're up for a while they're also they use a lot of the lakes out of New York. >> Right. Right. Yeah. quite a bit and the town does as you're
pointing out. It has no money earned at the moment, but if you could get property tax for putting in 25 apartments on multiple levels that that could be substantial. >> Um, plus make it look better than it is.
>> But due to the problematic access to that the current property, it's best to just use it for public uses like the transfer station. You can improve the handicap accessibility at a current site. >> Yeah, they got to get rid of the hill. I think just think the the the new barn
should be to the be between the existing building and the police station where the dirt piles are and dump is. That's where the new building should be. That's it makes the most sense to put it there and put the dump on the other side on a level site. That's >> can't We can't though, isn't there?
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I don't think we can. it. >> Well, for one, we'd have to clean the site. >> No, wait. No, I'm saying right now if you put if you if you just move the D to the other side of the building. >> Yeah. >> And start the new building. We're at the end of the new east with the new one
right there. It's right across the street from the police station. It's a shorter walk. It's level. It's already pre-existing non-conforming for the setbacks in the back. >> Isn't there like It's not an easement, right? That's there. >> There is. Well, the in front of that >> makes >> no there's an easement through the
parking lot >> that between the transport station and the police department there's an easement there would be not in that way. >> Yeah. >> I don't think we can do it because we'd have to clean the lot of where the transportation is first environmental
cleaning of that property before you could build on the structure on it. >> Okay. Something for the new committee to >> Yeah. building and you can discuss that. >> We already know I mean the >> we have like 15 where the garage makes
the most sense for access. I wonder radius and whatnot >> and the other I have no we need the recreation space if we put on the other end of the building piles are down >> but you want to put the transfer station next to the recreation space >> put it right leave the transfer station
there and put the put the building next to the dump needs to be level the transfer station needs to be level >> well regardless it's not a fincom discussion point the municipal building committee can discuss that but with the engineers and whatnot can that can explain uh rationale and needs.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you for the lively discussion. I have no updates on the personnel committee side. >> Well, uh next item will be items not anticipated. Anybody have anything? >> Oh, yeah.
>> Who's capital? You. >> I'm capital. >> Okay. >> Which all you did was >> the uh >> we just did the thing for >> South. Yes. >> They came to us. They want to use retained earnings to fund a new ambulance and to buy the um the lift for the ambulance. There's two ambulances
actually. The new one will have that device in it. And then the one that's been on order for three years, they're going to put lift in that one too. >> Good. Good. >> To load the stretchers into the >> returns, please. >> Good.
>> All right, that's our agenda. Motion to move that we >> second. >> Second. >> Those in favor?