##VIDEO ID:ppzcU5-ZI_4## um Ashley I think it's your turn for minutes it is uh my first time so bear with me just how tough it is yeah just have them repeat things if you don't get it all all right um and that leads us to approval of the last meeting minutes so do I have them are there any questions I'm that we approve i y a second those are approved as submitted and I will get them up on the web I think we're the only Committee in town that actually puts its minutes in a timely Fashion on the town site I'd go looking for minutes for the Conservation Commission the Board of Health you know they're months behind well I just did the last two meetings for the CPC today and okay um sometimes you don't meet every month sometimes there are glitches like like when we got the wrong Zoom link you know sometimes things don't get approved as fast as they should but yeah I think if you look the accessors they haven't done them minutes for years oh gosh no anyway anyway um I have an item to interject if you if you want to start off that that I think is a good news thing okay not on our agenda but but it happened uh last night because I saw Mary Stewart at the talk yeah and I mentioned to her that we were looking for additional members to the commission and she seemed interested and said well you should invite me so if that sounds of interest to you guys I'm not sure how what what the protocol is to invite you know um but she certainly had experience with Town committees and so forth and I think would be a good addition yeah she's great great and she's also been involved with the Center School business so that would be useful as well yes we need a motion to invite her uh yes I moved to invite her Ashley do you know do you know her I don't know her no she's um she lives across from the library um I forgotten her profession she was outstanding healthare she's a health care administrator I think okay um she's she might be retired ired or she was I I approached her for the planning board and she said well she'd think about it um but she was retiring I think in June so she might oh okay I didn't know that uh those things have a that's what she said then those things have a habit of changing I know over time but she also said she wasn't sure she was a good fit for the planning board because she tended to think broadly and not and sometimes not focus as much on details which Nicholas confirmed but um I think for this committee that's an asset so yeah yeah I think she was great on this CER school committee and she's wonderful was on the Water Commission too right yeah yeah so she has plenty of experience no I think she'd be great and she lives in an old house okay which which is a sign of Interest actually you know I you know true you don't gravitate to those unless yeah the only down another unless you inherited it I didn't I bought it no I didn't mean you I mean that's the other way you end up in an old house is because it came your way yeah yeah I think she'd be fantastic all right so what do we do well what ises that c for your motion second and um all in favor I I will email her and see if she would like to join okay great yay well done Alisa yes well see Good Things Come of beaver talks um I told Bob Smith he did not need to come for the CPA application after he sent that um email about the expected life of the roof but he sent me his phone number in case we had questions so um I don't think we need to wait for him and maybe it was precipitate of me to do that but since he's willing to answer questions anyway I should we should open the discussion on the library app application for CPA funding Ashley do you understand the process now or I'm getting there okay I'm getting there there's a lot of detail the idea is that each there're the three buckets for the CPA historic preservation open space and housing include sorry low income housing community community housing they call it so that's like senior and low yeah yeah it's low income basically but it can be up to 100% of the area median income but yeah it's it's essentially low income um and when an application the applications go to the community preservation committee when they come in the community preservation committee looks to the relevant Town board for advice advice and consent basically I guess you would say that's in the news now um because if the historical commission doesn't approve it then that's a big black mark against right the CPC of approving it in addition the CPC the historical commission under the law that the state passed has to determine that the project the or the structure that's being preserved is eligible um in this case that's automatic because it's in a national registered District so if it weren't if there were like ququ silos then but no it's not no it's not okay it's not in the National register District right I don't think and we haven't done the North Street District yet so anyway um if you're were outside the district then we would have to find that it's it's historically significant to the town which we did for the silos and and for some other project the the blue school um which turned out not to need any money but we did find it significant um and then the other thing that the CPA can't do is fund maintenance we can fund preservation Rehabilitation but what they think call routine maintenance is not eligible for C like painting or fixing a roof that's just you know been there for 10 years or something patching a roof or um but full replacement counts yeah so so our job is to see if we approve of doing this if it's consistent with the secretary's standards for historic preservation and uh to aine on whether it's maintenance or not I think in that case it's it's really the cpc's determination but we have some input into that the other two the other two are uniquely hours um CPC doesn't get into whether it's secretary standards or not they leave that up to us hasn't this committee sometimes assisted the applicants in doing their application weren't we helping the library along with their application at one point trying to help them make it work yep I and I actually suggest money that's there Ashley you know it's it's money that the state in a pool and it and the town has agreed to be part of this it's not we get a match of our local revenues from the state and lately we've gotten 100% And we did again get 100% match of last year's revenues and there's um we we run down the historic preservation bucket pretty quickly um but there's every year you appropriate 10 % of the revenues to the to the various buckets so there will be money in the bucket so we haven't we haven't been swamped with applications though you wouldn't say right no and nor has nor have there been any big ones any place else like I mean I mean imagine another town Northampton for example Ashley you can imagine a situation where there's a dozen people applying funds right funds and and you have to uh evaluate them against against each other you know yeah right to then dish out C get it over you know this rail trail versus you know yeah um the town hall was refurbished with CPA money huge amount of it yeah and we actually the town borrowed against CPA revenues for that as well so um anyway so are there questions about about this application per se they want to re roof the what he calls the Rotunda but the hexagonal area I guess it is at the rear of the library it's a semi [Laughter] rotunda I thought a rotunda was well it's round for one thing okay yeah yeah close enough to round I always thought it was like the a dome anyway doesn't matter I don't know what I would call it but um so I was concerned about the the fact that it's basically a a rber roofing material and it's only has a hasn't been around very long um was it originally that when it was built I don't know what it was or yeah I imagine it really probably was probably um this particular this particular substance material is is I think only about 20 or 30 years old but but that's long enough to have some idea and Bob says it will last 50 years so I think that takes it out of the routine maintenance category and I don't think they have they certainly haven't come to the CPA for funding since I've been on it and I've been on it for the whole time that the library you mean what about the steps well I mean for the roof I'm sorry I I wasn't clear so we did just fund uh rehab of the steps at the library yeah that happened was it last year two years ago one or two years I like I remember yeah when that was going on okay so I look I've got the preservation brief about Roofing that I sent you and the way I read that is that if you can't if it's a flat roof and you can't see the roof from any place um and you have a good reason to a practical reason to pick another a more modern roofing material it's not a problem is is that the way you are that was my take yeah and I think in this case that that's that applies if especially if this has a life of 50 years yeah so I have no objections yeah I didn't see anything that gave me any concerns and I agree with your interpretation Judy in terms of what um they said about the flat roof although I haven't gone there physically to stand and see if I can actually see anything but well I if you look at those pictures there's a par ofit so the parit rises in in the form B the so you can't there's no Overlook to it oh I see oh you're right you're right there's there's you can't see the roof no you can't at all I'm surprised they discovered it needed work actually given its invisibility drones these days yeah well a drone could see it that's true yeah so do I have a motion to approve and to recommend yeah I move to approve and recommend second all in favor great that was easy um CPA plan has this changed at all from what we approved last time because I knew last time we tweaked the project priorities no it hasn't changed I mean we would the issue is whether we want to change it okay I didn't know if if anybody had changed it before that got it so this is what we had approved last year yeah and again Ashley this is every year the CPC reaches out to the relevant committees and say this is still what you want basically and so we established what's fairly generic well I shouldn't say generic but um we added some things last time that I thought were important yeah no I I was we anything else in the last year that we would want to add we we try to be meaningful and yet Broad in in these so they're not we're not recommending parities to specific buildings or or specific areas or things but we we do try and say what we think is important and I didn't have any changes I don't have any changes to the priorities but in you know somehow when you look at something that you haven't looked at for a while you see things and the section before that was the 2009 weightly Heritage landscape inventory report which first of all it's 2009 so should that be I I I guess my point is should that be Revisited because it's a long time since 2009 and what made me question that was to me missing from that is West weightly do we want to that there's a lot of you know historic houses and even the pound I don't think is covered by this I don't think we can change it for this that was a state that's a state generated report is it something we should I don't know I don't know the process for the way it worked was somebody from the state and they have a comes to the town um meets with all sorts of people for comment it doesn't it doesn't go through through the historical commission it goes through Town's people all the oh shoot I'll keep talking my battery is low I need to plug in the court yeah so that that doesn't change what we're voting on today of I'm fine with what we have in here for now but it raises the question of do we want to investigate how to go through the process again because it's been a long time um and maybe as you say it it's not us it's you know something that comes from the town well I can find out we can try and find out what the process is um I think it would depend on the state having funding for or maybe furog um having funding to do the project oh yeah um but that's a good question I just I don't with the language that says excuse me Heritage Landscapes most worthy of preservation and I don't like that we're not saying West we it sounds like West weightly isn't worth preserving I'm not looking didn't send anybody to meetings but um again these are Landscapes as much as they include structures but the focus was Landscapes so is that is that another word for view or is that no I character maybe as much as [Music] you sounds sounds tricky and vague well of [Laughter] course um maybe we should all go back and read the report and I'll try and find out the process okay yeah I'd be happy to look at it and I think it's up on the um whitly historical website as a town resource okay might might be on ours um and maybe there's nothing that would it's for cogress state but I know it was I just found ited you found it already you are amazing I'm really good at [Laughter] Google clearly if I can share it thank you you need permission to share well do you want me to just for us or just share the link actually I just found it too all right like do we have a chat feature on there why can't I like I can't figure out how to actually uh comment to share this link we can fall find the link I think okay I think it's very good point Susan I don't see that it affects this year's CPC plan though so right right and yeah this is and also the West Whitley is covered in the scenic roads and the national register District discussions or mounts yeah I'm I'm just looking at who did this Massachusetts Department of Conservation and Recreation and its Regional Partners fog and Pioneer Valley Planning Commission have collaborated to bring the Heritage landscape inventory program to 12 communities so maybe they're not even doing this again they I'm sure they had a grant but if that's the case do we have to be referencing this and problem for future R do we have to be referencing that doc doent if it limits us to beond you know smaller than we want to reference I think it was you when we originally wrote it as the other way that it was opening up areas and things that weren't included otherwise I mean I think it's written in such a way like the actual Community preservation document that it doesn't feel as Li it's limited just as that report because we're talking about other resources like the national and state registers of historic places which West wle is definitely part of um and it's like strip Road pop hill we Road are listed up above roads and sensitive cultural places reference to that yeah this all comes out of the fact that I'm now obsessed by the fact that there was an underground railroad station on grass hill how did that come up in your world so I'm trying to remember because I was reading something oh I know what it is I'm putting together a seminar for five College learning and retirement on the history of pioneer Valley and there are about I don't know go 20 25 suggested topics one of which it Underground Railroad but I wanted I was doing a quick search on each of the topics to make sure there would be stuff for people to find on this and when I did a quick search on that whenever I found referenced this guy AI I forget his last name now uh in weightly so then I started going down that rabbit hole oh interesting hold on that should be okay well maybe we can add that to I can find out the cycle of these um aie Monson and he left the area about 1858 I think [Music] 59 but his on the the 1857 county map his property is still shown at weight Ley the direct on the direct route the friends of the fugitives were Deacon John M Bardwell Deacon Dexter Morton Daniel F Morton aie Monson and Thomas Nash of these Mr Monson had been called the principal one he left oh he left in 1850 but it it he he had he isn't mentioned as people staying there and I'm trying to figure out where exactly his house was because we don't think it's there anymore holes up there and you can see them on the liar if and if you want to match up liar Imaging to that 1858 is it whatever that m match that up you'll see exactly where that is I know where that is if you go on foot you you see where it is okay okay thank you anyway I I digress but that got me wondering is this are we covering everything we want to cover well I don't think they'll get into that if they do another Heritage landscape survey but anyway um it's good to know that would be a good one for hidden histories yeah it would be great and I'm going to find that map right now while we talk keep talking the reference that I have was this is Underground Railroad in massachus it's 1935 American antiquarian society if I can figure out how to scan this I can send it to you so you don't have to reinv the wheel asley this doesn't need I got it right here oh everybody else is better with Google me I'll send you some stuff Susan we can carry on with our meeting but I'll send you some stuff okay yeah this is off topic Ashley we don't off no it's okay no I'm just I'm filling out things that I needed to fill out okay that's fine so are there any changes to the we want to make to the CPC plan no nothing I have good that's easy okay I don't think we need to vote that do we it's an absence of action the do bridge oh um other the Center School update the town did approve the matching grant for for the feasibility study for the center school so that will be going forward hopefully soon and I forgot to ask Pete Kane about it today but I will so we have this letter from the green International Affiliates um wanting our opinion on their proposed Bridge projects for [Music] i91 and I think you all have have a copy of that as far as I could see on the documents they're just proposing action to the to the bridge itself not not any or minimal amount to bridge yeah what the entrance ways you know access and immediate access and Bridge itself and so they disrupted everything when they put i91 in I don't think there can be any anything there but Alison they can't make more of them ready yeah that's I don't think they can I mean messed up any than it's been messed up is is stalking you know using the land on around it for materials I would think but I don't think they'd be digging it right so can I just write and say we don't see any any adverse impact I'm good with that um we solve the membership problem um hopefully you have any more on the 250 if Alison um I had brought up this subject of the maple sugar as it related to Colonial revolutionary history to the Historical Society at at one point or a sub meeting a sub Committee of the historical society that was thinking about exhibits what their next exhibit would be and they had a couple of ideas for what they wanted to do and I thought they when I left that meeting I had the impression that they wanted to go with idea a and that was fine with me um you know and uh since then Donna tells me that they're seemed to be maybe interested in that Maple idea either either instead of idea a or along with idea a the other idea um and and that I shouldn't stop thinking about it that's how we left it I don't know what that means um it's it's becoming a little bit urgent in my mind and it's it makes me a little anxious in that you know uh they want at the Historical Society they want to open whatever the next exhibit is you know sometime in the new year I guess could be March or April but you know and that sounds like a long way away but it's not really in terms of what would need to get done and organized and I don't know who it is that would be working on it besides me and I'm not sure I want to commit to it just I'm not sure but the other thing I did was I button hold Keith Bardwell at post office and asked him uh I I told him that this was a thing we were talking about about the history of maple sugaring and did he have artifacts or interest in that and he nodded yes and he some things he says and then he mentions somebody in Ashfield who I didn't recognize the name some some guy who apparently has a huge collection of historic Maple sugaring things and um which that was good news because because the Historical Society itself probably does not own own articles uh objects that we could use but so this would rely on borrowing which is fine I think it's actually a good thing to borrow other entities you know to do this um but that's as far as it's gotten so I don't know kind of where to take it from there or how this committee would coordinate with the Historical Society I guess I need you guys to help me think it think through a scheme how this how this could do people some good what's the point of doing this you know there needs to be a greater good in it all for any of us to spend many many hours working on it um I don't want to do it just because oh my goodness the exhibit we have now is coming down and there has to be something in there that's not a good enough reason for me and you know the greater good that I saw was you know to help promote the sugaring industry and and you know bring the community together to learn some history about the town and and there's natural history involved in this too of course so you know I'm all for that I don't think we can get beavers involved but you know maybe um but I noticed that the NOA project had a y wo woman talking about wo cooking oh did yeah and she gave a lecture last Saturday I think and I she wrote a cook she did a cookbook and it's B it's essentially W and Portuguese I gather because she's from the C W there's a fusion restaurant that no one has tried yet right well she says she says all of the the indigenous the indigenous and the Portuguese Community are so so intertwined on the cape that half their recipes are are wow are Fusion but so notton has a restaurant like that I looked on CW Mars to see if I could get a copy of the book and there's one copy in all of cwrs and it had three holds on it before me yeah so where are you going with that idea though I mean what would you like help me think help me help me understand and well what I was thinking commission wants to do if in addition to whatever is in an exhibit any place that another way we could take this is native cooking and traditions and Colonial cooking and traditions and the guides at Deerfield do the open Hearth cooking have a very good sense of that may have some recipes we could find some old recipes if we could do some demonstrations or get somebody like this woman to do a lecture it's a way to supplement I it was kind of thinking of it as a program a programming opportunity for people in town it could even be a programming opportunity that happens at one of the f one or both of the festivals yep because you know that that's a way to coordinate with the Historical Society because they're as knows that they're always looking for um things to do at those festivals and the festival is useful because it does people do come to you know there an audience sort of a a canned audience that's already coming people already know about it and we have a venue that we could use whether we can light a fire or not we'll have to find out well that's one way to bring the fire so it'll be fine could be an independent programming option it could be I don't know but it's just a I was thinking of it as a supplement or another way well I like that I I think that's so so that's something that the commission could how can the commission um help that happen yeah that's what I'm trying to figure out is the role of the commission what's our job this besides just being interested people sorry who to do we're used to it we get the equivalent all everybody's house gets the equivalent yeah that's how they show they wanted at real time especially picture she wanted to be dead that's what she was trying to tell me yeah yep that's exactly what this one's doing well I guess I just want to clarify it because I don't I don't maybe there's have maybe there's no precedent for that right I don't think it fits with our formal charge right but I think I suspect we'd be happy to pitch in does that make any sense yeah with money with time with Applause with what with time we have no money we have no money okay just being clear our2 we have money for stamps that's what we have what $200 okay right and post PO keeps going up well I mean anything we do needs to be uh publicized you know and we have the usual um you know weightly venue uh avenues for that but you know it's something we could do a mailing for that would be kind of fun to do an addition mailing that's not we could put a speaker up overnight probably I could do that I have a guest house yeah or pay a speaker you know there's that if a guide from Deerfield is someone you're going to need we should pay yeah and same with the wampo cooking person yeah that's you know that's hundreds of dollars there which they deserve but you know they're not coming free um and but maybe an invitation from a from a historic commission you know has more weight or has some kind of Gravitas that uh an invitation for me might not have yeah and and we could combine our Resources with the Historical Society probably or get them to help and they do have some money yep which they don't know how to spend we could help them with that is there um like any sort of maple syrup trail that exists in like Western Massachusetts no I thought I've heard of like cider days kind of thing yeah well I was thinking like uh in Vermont they have like a cheese Trail and an ice cream Trail and it's a publicized thing that takes you to yep all the places that make that do like cheese and all the places that or all the places that do um ice cream like through the state it's like a Statewide thing Massachusetts has an ice cream Trail has an ice cream Trail the problem with those trails and I can speak you know from like cider days kind of situation and if you've been to cider run into this you got people making stuff at their Farm Barn Shack house whatever that's all great and maybe they make great stuff but it doesn't mean they're set up to receive the public you know handle cars parking and you know dealing with a crowd I've been to many CER days things where clearly the place was overwhelmed and didn't know where to put cars and well we would have that problem here too you know they have CER days we're closed you know this is a problem so likewell you know he he can't have 50 people showing up in his Sugar Shack all at once but if we did there was something that existed I think I I think I am thinking of the ice cream Trail and it's more like a passport where it's like can you visit all of these different providers like can you sample all these different Maple syrups from these different places now maybe we could do it virtually without yeah I think actually I don't know about the passport but I think the mass maple sugar M Maple Association has a list in a map of we should find out what kind of horsepower that group has it didn't look like much on their website that's what I I imagine I think it's a bunch of people who make sugar and you know kind of they have a they're not public administrator right they have a history online but it doesn't it doesn't include the the British well we could you know we don't want to take on doing this for the state of Massachusetts but Ashley maybe we do a couple of towns maybe we could do Conway and get the boens you know Conway and Deerfield and weighty together well that's what I'm thinking in terms of you know what what do we do we talk about you know historical districts and buildings and that sort of thing and this might be something that kind of overlaps in a way and it gets people out in the community to see these different things and to visit these different providers and could loop back into um this kind of overarching theme that we might be focusing on I think we could possibly we somebody this maybe it's more the Historical Society somebody could get someone one of the maple sugar people to talk about technical changes in in sugar even even in their lifetime well I think that could be a physical part of the exhibit you know I can imagine an exhibit where we actually create a set of Tree Trunks right that are that with the apparatus that represents era one two three you know whatever through through time that would be kind of cool to see that' be very cool mini osmosis machine yeah well it be to see see how that technology changed with the Taps different Taps different buckets different devices even the indigenous technique of doing we fake it but that needs a physical space you know is that at the Historical Society I don't know you know but um that's how I would present how definite was was Donna's invitation or lack thereof or however you want to comment I guess well as I say they they you know they want to they want to make use of that exhibit space they have and it and it is um it has a definite set of limitations and parameters and it you know it it's good for some kinds of things and I feel like it's not so good for other kinds of things yeah but they have that space they want to put things on display um they don't want to just have it be a a a standing exhibit they want to rotate it every year the the problem is in this town it's of of many things in this town you know there's only so many people in this town that have the ability to help pull something like that together and you can't keep fogging those same people constantly you know to to do it we all know how that feels so and and you need you need an idea that again you need an idea that is gonna appeal to a 21st century you know audience and have and have some relevancy and some greater good to it so that's that's kind of hard to ring all those bells and so so I would just keep asking us this this is all great stuff we're talking about you know but why are we doing who are we helping you know and and what what's the most good we can do with with with this effort and how has it help the town we can think about it though you know yeah this commission does not have a website for example you know the Historical Society has a website yeah so that's good you know and we can use that and I will mention the library again you know who ought to be involved in something like this whether that's yes you shake your finger maybe you can make it right I me I did actually it they should be involved so it's a very natural connection for the 250th I did a timeline of the library's history they never commented on it they never asked to see it no that would be work transferring it from getting a copy asking me to print it out well we could insist that they help and we could tell them how to help you know and then see where they go there's some new blood on the uh trustees committee there would be very interested in this and maybe they can help make it happen and they have a friends group that's has funds for doing programming and maybe they can help make something happen and they have a venue and a big lawn yeah the EG commission has some perview too but they're and the gra here y the ey commission is not um vibrant commission right but they'd be on board you know for what that's worth and maybe we can help them show them how they can be helpful yep so why don't we so anyway about the the exhibition that has a timeline related to it in that they would like to have that installed and open at least in time for the spring festival you know next May our idea I'm not sure if we have a timeline except you know the this anniversary of the Revolutionary War if if if that's what we're tying this to and I that's that's why this came up right is we were trying to see how to piggy back on that event well I'm not quite sure what else we can give you Alison except I personally would be happy to help with the exhibit if that's but and I personally would would like to help with any of the programming particularly if it's like children's stuff because yeah I can make m there right and I can't think of anything this is a fabulous you know kids related you know yeah sugar and kids I think that's a good combo they go together well they kind of go together yeah um I mean I think it's a great idea and we as individuals as we said before can help you know each of us can help in whatever way we can I'm not sure commission comes in yeah I agree well the commission you know if that grant money was still in play the commission could apply for grant money that might pay for some we've missed that boat so I don't know if there's other I don't think that that was really tourist related it wasn't enrich your local community we wouldn't have and it was out of our league financially it was it was big books so that particular Grant that's not to say there aren't others but the porter felt Huntington house got money for a lecture series you know and Mara Miller's involved with that and I'm not sure that's super big league but any it doesn't matter because we missed that but there may be other opportunities that where as I said Mass humanities has grants but their Cycles it's an annual cycle it's they won't announce what the timing is till January okay so let me give it let me give it some we can all give it some more thought and I I'll ask some more questions of people and see especially the Historical Society people and and just see what where this could go there yep okay good other business um we had talked about having a meeting to go through the files the historical commission files and and I talked to Pete Kane today and said how do we post this I I don't think that's a zoom kind of thing and I said for one thing I mean it's it's not a zoom thing and even if it were I'm sure there's no Wi-Fi reception in the closet where the file cabinets is we grouped around the file cabinet it's I love posting for a meeting in a [Laughter] closet so so I asked if we could post it as a site visit and he said well he wasn't sure you needed to post a site visit and he finally saidwell couldn't people he saidwell couldn't people go and look at it individually and I said well I think we wanted to do it collectively I think it would be more more interesting and we probably all learn more that way and and he said oh well just go do it nobody will ever know basically um definitely don't put that in the minutes I won't put it like that this will be a site visit it which does not need to be posted at the town website um and then I said well you know maybe I should have a key or maybe the commission should have a key to the town office to the town hall Donna didn't need one because she could use a Neils key and he said oh no and then he said do you really want the files there shouldn't they be at Town Offices and I talked through the reason that they were there that this was a historic building it was preserved with historic preservation money um historical commission was much involved it seemed like the appropriate place and he said shouldn't they be here at Town off and it turns out that there's a lot more space there than there was because the they've moved some rooms around and built office space so there would be a lot of space there that wasn't there before when Brian and Donna worked out that they would be at Town Hall so I said I would discuss that with you guys because in fact it is kind of a pain to especially if we're if he's not going to give us a key um to get a key every time you want to go and I mean I have a key to town office Town Offices so we could meet there even on times when it's not open and it feels like these are official Town documents um every other commission would be a town offices I believe yeah I I can't make much of a case other than it's more convenient for all of us if it's except for Ashley if it's a town hall I think Town off well it isn't if unless you have to go down and get a key at Town Offices first and then take it back yeah which it sounds like we'll have to do I'm fine with Town Offices everybody else I think it makes sense just to have everything there I think so too also that way ask somebody there to go look something up if we need it that's true that's what I was going to say yeah okay yep Alison you look not no fine I couldn't care less where it is it's fine town office is fine okay do we have to vote or anything to have these moved or is it just a thumbs up from M juty move I move that we authorize the town to move them second okay good next meeting in December yeah what's the date I'm just checking what our date is because that can go in the minutes um month de [Music] we are scheduled for Monday December 16th does that work for everybody yes so believe so yes well thank you all have a Happy Thanksgiving thank you you too