to the for it stands one nation God indivisible roll call Mr shf here Mr Franco I'm here and Mr Cabrera I am here in comp in compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 Public Law 1975 the notice requirements have
been satisfied as to the time place and date of holding said meeting by posting notice on the bulon board here in burough Hall and by mailing and emailing same to the herald of Kate May County and the Press of Atlantic City on October 15th 2024 in the event of an emergency your
uh emergency exit is the door you came in our front left your back right or the door just by the uh American flag uh a couple quick reminders uh you want to do a sound check Mr kenif how we doing we good to go all right so this meeting is being shown live here today on the
Burrow's uh Facebook page and also the YouTube channel uh in the event uh you're watching the recorded version and you have a public comment that you would like to make uh we have a conference line right here on the Das you can use the phone number 888 363
4734 and then when prompted you're going to enter the access code 969 9020 filed by the pound or the hashtag if you watch the recorded version of this meeting you're more than welcome to
email our clerk at Clerk wildc crest.org Andor phone her at 69729 804 in the event you have any further questions or public comment I just heard myself back up was
okay all right uh Madame clerk we have some ordinances uh one to adopt two three to introduce correct the first is regarding the cap Bank motion at ordinance number 1448 be placed on second reading and final passage by title only
second is been moved and seconded that ordinance number 1448 be placed on second and final reading by title only roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Cabrera yes ordinance 1448 reads as follows an ordinance to establish cap
bank for calendar year 2025 pursuant to njsa 40a colon 4- 4514 motion that a public hearing now be held on ordinance number 1448 a second has been moved and saned that a
public hearing on ordinance number 1448 now will be held roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes motion a public hearing of ordinance number 1448 we have to do the public hearings EXC I'm sorry all right floor is open for uh
public comments on ordinance number 1448 we'll start with anybody here in the audience today hearing none we'll move to the conference line any public comments on ordinance number 1448 hearing none motion at a public hearing on ordinance number 1448 now be
closed and I'll second that it has been moved and seconded that the public hearing on ordance number 1448 now be closed roll call Mr shf yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes motion at ordinance number 1448 be passed on second and final reading and advertised according
to law second that is been moved and seconded that ordinance number 1448 be passed on second and final reading at advertised according to law roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes okay next we have ordinance 1449 and it
reads as follows an ordinance of the Bureau of Wildwood Crest amending and supplementing Article 1 of chapter 37 garbage rubbish Solid Waste Management of the code of the burrow of Wildwood Crest regulating section 4 containers
receptacles placement for collection motion that an order number 1449 be passed on second on first reading advertised according to law we brought up for second and final reading public hearing on March 26 2025 at 5:00 p.m. I'll second it it has been moved and
seconded that ordinance number 1449 be passed on first reading advertised according to all be brought up for second and final reading in public hearing on March 26th at 2025 at 5 p.m. roll call Mr Shi yes Mr Franco yes Mr
cabara yes next next we have Bond ordinance 1450 and it reads as follows a bond ordinance appropriating 4,500,000 and authorizing the issuance of 4,275 th000 bonds or notes of the burrow
for various improvements or purposes authorized to be undertaken by the buau of Wildwood Crest in the county of Cape May New Jersey motion that ordinance number 1450 be passed on first reading advertised according to law we brought up for second and final read reading a
public hearing on April 9th 2025 at 9:30 a.m. I'll second that has been moved and seconded at ordinance number 1450 be passed on first reading advertised according to law be brought up for second and final reading and public hearing on April the 9th 2025 at 9:30
a.m. roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next we have ordinance 1451 and it reads as follows a bond ordinance providing for the Improvement of the sanitary sewage system in and by
the burrow of Wildwood Crest in the county of Cape May New Jersey appropriating 4 million therefore and authorizing the issuance of 4 million bonds or notes of the burrow for financing such appropriation motion at ordinance number 1451 be passed on first
reading advertised according to law for brought up per second final reading and public hearing on April 9th 2025 at 9:30 a.m. second it's been moved in seconded that ordinance number 1451 he passed on first reading advertised according to
law be brought up for second and final reading and public hearing on April the 9th 2025 at 9:30 a.m. roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes next we have the resolutions the first is
authorizing waiver of the fee required for special event application by the Wildwood Crest School District to host a graduation ceremony at Centennial Park on June 12th 2025 from 5: to 7:00 p.m. motion I will second it has been moved
and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes next is authorizing special events permit to jld event management and timing LLC and co-sponsoring the official Wildwood Crest run event taking
place on October 3rd and 4th 2025 and granting a non-exclusive limited license to use service marks motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr
Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabara yes next is authorizing Award of the lease of a portion of the Nesbit Center building pursuant to njsa 40a colon 12-4a of the local lands and Building
Law burrow lease agreement number 2025 5- 001 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is canceling
aronia 2025 sewer rents in the amount of $124 for property located at 7201 Ocean Avenue motion I will second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr
Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes next is designating locations for portable vending units motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco Mr Cabrera yes next
is granting Street opening permit due to hardship to create a depressed curb and install an apron at 218 East Syracuse Avenue a motion it second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff
yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing a Board of Professional Services contract to the LX Consulting Group for specialized engineering and environmental consulting services in conjunction with Beach Patrol storage yard Dune restoration part two Dune
restoration construction oversight at the not to exceed sum of 9800 motion I'll second it's been mooved moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes
next is authorizing a memorandum of agreement between the burrow of Wildwood Crest and the city of North Wildwood city of Wildwood and the greater Wildwood tourism Improvement Development Authority for Jitney transportation services motion I will second it has
been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes next is accepting work performed and authorizing release of performance bond and accepting maintenance bond for the Beach Street end Public Access
improvements phase 3 contract motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is amending Green Team resolution number 22- 364 adopted on
December 28th 2022 to allow for the composition of five to seven members and authorizing reappointment of James McGinty with term expiring December 31st 2026 motion second it has been moved and
seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco Mr Caba yes next is cancelling erroneous 2024 and 2025 sewer rents in the amount of $248 for property located at 110 West
Wisteria Road motion second it has been moved moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes next is authorizing Award of contract for landscaping services burrow contract number
202-20 burrow engineer work order for 2025 Road resurfacing program at the not to exceed sum of 20,000 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes
next is opposing Atlantic City Electric's 17.23% electricity rate increase calling on AC electric to withdraw their application to the New Jersey BPU for additional 8% increase up for
consideration in April 2025 and calling on members of the njbpu to resign immediately due to their failure to uphold their fiduciary duty as board members that would be wonderful all motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution
be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes 100% and Mr Caba yes next is authorizing Award of proprietary purchase of goods or services with Grand Turk for repair of street sweeper at the not to exceed sum of $
32,700 one 56 cents motion it second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing Award of Professional Services contract for specialized legal services to
Christopher Orlando and the law firm of Parker McKay PA at the not to exceed sum of 5,000 motion it second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes yes Mr Caba yes lle is
authorizing the Chief Financial Officer to pay the prescribed flat rate per hour to law enforcement pursuant to the 2025 distracted driving Crackdown Grant motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be
adopted roll call Mr Chef thank you yes sorry Mr Franco yes and Mr Caba yes motion that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid I'll second it it is has been moved and seconded that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid Mr Chef
roll call Mr Franco yes Mr cab yes thanks TR you're welcome thanks TR okay that brings us to correspondents uh Madam clerk I believe we have an email from uh Schwarz I would you want to read that sir to the record he said although excuse me although I am unable to attend
the morning meeting on 3:12 due to work obligations I ask that you please share this as part of the public comment in quotes I provide my full support for a resolution that withdraws Wildwood Crest from the D Dune project the beach mark up on Heather Road confirmed by the
mayor concerns about the detrimental effects this project would have on Wildwood Crest beaches we cannot allow our beautiful beaches to be destroyed sand for North Wildwood can be sourced from offshore areas as it was last spring and we already have healthy Dunes
in Wildwood Crest end of quote okay thank you yep okay next on the the and on our correspondence we have uh our Wellness coordinator Laura farell floor is yours thank you good morning my name is Laura barell and I'm the wellness
coordinator for the Bureau of Wildwood Crest the mayor's Wellness committee is an Advisory Board and think tank for the mayor's Wellness campaign we have a total of 25 or more projected initiatives for the year the wellness
monthly calendar of events is featured on on Wildwood crest.org these are our mayor's wellness events from the fall of 2024 to the spring of 20125 Crest Memorial mayor's Wellness art contest this year children are
designing a personal deck of affirmation cards with a gift box under the direction of the art teacher Linda Enis the winners will be chosen in June adult Fitness this is a total body strength training fitness program designed for
mature adults this class meets at Crest Pier Recreation three times a week uh on Monday Tuesday and Thursday at 10:00 a.m. and I happen to teach that class uh walking Wednesdays which I also teach is a free
weekly 30 minute choreograph dance fitness program which meets at 9 to 9:30 this is a fun-filled loow impact aerobics class pink t-shirt sales in October shirts were sold to support breast
cancer awareness Zumba pink party a dance party held to raise awareness and money in the battle against breast cancer Latin pump this was an adult exercise program
featuring dance and lightweight sculpting and was held in the evening at Crest Pier through December of 2024 the food exchange this was an online Community Forum designed to encourage discussion on and and
information on food nutrition and Healthy Living this was featured on the mayor's Wellness campaign page facebook.com wwcw Wellness file of Life program this was a
free program presented by William Crips and our EMS team in partnership with AARP file of life is a national program that provides First Responders with information they need to help provide the best care for individuals in the
event of an emergency attendees were given a magnet which provides a template to list medical history Pharmaceuticals and Emer emergency contacts the file is hung on the refrigerator for easy access this provides a valuable resource for
paramedics to ensure safety in the event of an emergency holiday food drive which is ongoing throughout the year food and personal care products are collected at creser Recreation Center to support local food
pantries Wildwood Crest Holiday Lights walk the community came together for a walk along Sunset Lake and surrounding neighborhoods to view holiday light displays this is a festive annual Fitness event now here are some ongoing
and projected 2025 activities in 2025 starting in January we had a wellness questionnaire which is actually still ongoing if anybody wants to put in their answers to this questionnaire we conducted an anonymous Wellness survey
the information gathered helps us to design programming based upon our community needs and interests we received Walmart grant funding thanks to New Jersey healthare quality Institute and have developed Wellness programs for seniors and
children and here are the two programs this is brand new it is Fit Kids this weekly class features aerobics dance fitness and yoga dance to the beat of top 40 music it's open to kids from age 9 to 12 parents must complete a student
reg registration form there is no fee the class meets at Crest Pier on Tuesdays from 4:30 to 520 p.m. the other program is our new Wellness Workshop this is a mind Ness class featuring
gentle chair and standing yoga stretching balance exercises movement synchronized breath work sound bath meditation and journaling this is for seniors veterans those with limited physical abilities and anyone who is
interested you are all welcome there is no fee the class meets on Tuesdays at Crest Pier from 5:30 to 6:20 p.m. mayor's Wellness checklist challenge for Crest Memorial students this initiative is for students
parents staff and Crest Memorial School and the public participants were given a a a checklist of Wellness activities to engage in and complete during February and March all participants will receive
a team iron mayor baseball cap which is actually pretty cool uh okay lunch and learn this was on February 26 we hosted a lecture in partnership with Cooper Cape Regional Hospital the lunch and learn event was
held at Crest Pier Recreation Center Dr Mina Sharma led a talk on Integrative Medicine she discussed how stress affects the body and provided useful tips and healing strategies including mindfulness activities and guided
meditation the 100m virtual race this is an honor based Community challenge featured on Facebook it's ongoing throughout this month participants walk run swim cycle or pedal the elliptical during the first 30 days of March
individual miles are recorded and the winners will be announced at the end of the month champion of Wellness ceremony we will be hosting the second annual champion of Wellness ceremony for the community the event includes a ceremony
honoring our new Wellness Champions and a celebratory luncheon this is event will take place at the Cap Center Saturday March 22nd from 11: to 12: p.m. an informal chat with Shane Moyer meet Shane Moyer our Wildwood Crest
police officer he knows from personal experience what it's like to live with diabetes 1 he wants to share his story to offer hope to anyone who might be struggling with this condition Shane will discuss how he thrives through personal care and Health Management join
us for this open format discussion at Wild Crest Recreation on Saturday April 12th from 11: to 12: p.m. the mayor's Wellness walk our annual community walk with Mayor Don Cabrera will be held on Saturday May
17th at 8:30 a.m. we will meet on the porch of Crest Pier the first 75 participants will receive a wellness shirt employee Wellness day a licensed medical sports massage therapist will be made available to employees by
appointment only to discuss pain injury management and receive diagnosis short tissue mobilization assisted stretching and manual therapy to alleviate minor aches and pains employees are invited to participate in a free spin class at
Short Fitness with their co-workers on a Saturday morning dates to be announced additionally Short Fitness has offered reduced membership fees to all employees as an incentive to boost greater Wellness Health and environmental
Wellness Expo this health information event will include health professionals medical screenings Fitness demos and over 33 Wellness vendors we will be expanding our event this year to include vendors specializing in clean Environmental Solutions Representatives
will share information on beach cleanup recycling mosquito control solar panels conservation and organic gardening this event is set for Wednesday June 11th from 10: a.m. am to 1: p.m. at crester
Recreation and lastly we have been selected by the New Jersey Healthcare quality Institute to once again hold the title New Jersey healthy town for the fifth year in a row thank [Applause]
you thanks Laur thanks Laura and uh I think on behalf of the governing body we'd like to think Laura does an excellent job coordinating uh the wellness program on behalf of the buau so laa thank you very much um five years is that's not something to be taken lightly people just say oh yeah you just
kind of apply you really don't because they there's a whole very detailed application process to be considered um and you know I think if you listen to all the things that we've done in 2024 and
2025 there's Wellness programs for everybody cuz everyone's definition of Wellness I think is a little bit different but you can always find something going on uh with LA's programs and over at the recreation team so Laura thank you Brian Frank everybody Nick everybody that's involved in the program
thank you and hopefully uh we'll see everybody at the March 22nd uh event for the champions of wellness and certainly for the for the walk thank you okay um that brings us to our discussion items uh there's nothing listed under new business so I'm going to Breeze down
through uh the old business uh bicycle safety and bike path it's my understanding that the public safety has ordered some signs to be installed uh before the before the season uh uh the be directional signs up there directional signs okay and that that
will we we've received some complaints in the past although we think it's common sense that you kind of go keep right and pass left just it helps uh make sure that we are communicating effectively to uh to everybody that uses that bike path because it does get very crowded up there uh the 250th birthday
committee uh we're still looking for volunteers to serve on that uh as you know next year uh our country celebrates its 250th birthday uh wraft Municipal app there was a zoom call held uh with various members of of the buau uh we
received um a quote for that so we'll plan on reviewing that uh internally with with everybody and and decide what options uh we may be interested in for introducing later this year uh old old tourism building use we can take that
off we just awarded that uh here under the resolution so there'll be a uh uh a cafe in the old tourism building um bringing some Revenue into the burrow uh Historical Museum is on hold concession agreement Hotel Zone that's also on hold
uh traffic calming uh is uh I haven't received anything more from the county on that and I know that some of that's going to be addressed in the some of the ibank applications that Mr deblasio's office is doing uh Back Beach excavation uh Mark's office is surveying the back
beaches uh and he will coordinate with Public Works uh to raise this raise the height of the sand for the proper drainage so we don't have the ponding in the back beaches uh anything on dring commissioner well Francy and I have contacted the do they're still in the acquisition phase so we're waiting to
hear back from them okay uh New Jersey Avenue pre uh infrastructure pre- County so in one of the uh in the bond that we just introduced one of the bonds we just introduced today uh the infrastructure work for that program that has to start before the county starts their program
uh is looking to is the funding is being put in place but the construction for that project is likely to start sometime after the summer this year uh Public Works roof uh I don't have anything on it joy we have anything on the Public Works roof I know that they're getting closer but they're they're rapping I
know they're okay all right U Madam clerk I think we can take this one now off the agenda uh Washington C Beach fall outfalls and capassi we're still waiting to hear word from uh FEMA and uh uh Congressman van Drew's office uh I'm going to jump down to the
burough Hall Renovations here real quick so uh there's a uh we're waiting for an estimate from an architect to consider the police side of the building as well the exterior of burrow hall for some Renovations so we're just we we did have a meeting with them we're just waiting
on the proposal and last but not least uh we're going to touch on the uh the Army cordun uh and the d uh involvement uh so yesterday the buau we received a letter from uh the commissioner of the
d uh basically stating that March 18th is the deadline for uh while with Crest to make a decision as to whether or not we're participating um uh in the project or not uh I'm not going to read the letter
if you want a copy of it you can get a copy of it from the clerk's office but and I'm not going to argue uh or defend the Burrow's position here I don't think this is the proper venue to do that but I do find that there's a lot of opinion in this letter I'm not sure I agree with
uh uh most of it and I'll leave it at that I'll will let the when the time comes we will certainly address what we need to address um but uh we had asked um so you you heard us talk about Heather Road and kind of uh we put some
we surveyed the 95% plans uh of what was presented to us by the Army Corps and as a result of that survey when uh uh Mark surveyors put the stakes out on the beach we took it a step further and wanted to get a video done to CU it's
it's it's easy to talk about but hard to understand right so I think this video captures everything that we've been talking about so I don't know I think these TVs can tell yeah can we swivel them swivel them it's a it's a little less than a minute
video and we'll probably post it up on social media there you go all right um there's no sound so don't don't worry about that turn the light turn the lights down a little be easier to see is that too I don't know no you're
good that's good you want to do playby play Mark I'm going to do a second round I'll do it Jesus okay so that was a 58 second 59 second video so if you don't mind I I I'll go go through and I I'll point out what I believe our I what I know our
position has been um in various meetings with the state with the Army Corps uh We've communicated uh many you know different options we've asked a lot of questions uh but if we can show it again TR if you don't mind me if I say if if you can you can you pause we say Okay so
let's go ahead and start all right so this is this is F this is the V video uh flying North and here so stop there please all right so I want to point out if you look look at how wide our existing Dune system is
now okay so it's it's roughly half of our beach um at if assuming that that's you know assuming that the waterers at the uh the low tide Mark um you'll see you see all the access points you see how how thick and how vegetated our
Dunes is so the very front the easterly side of those Dunes one of the things in The Proposal it takes away the the project eliminates the front part of that Dune and basically pushes that front part of the Dune up almost to the
you know kind of like the Midway point point of if you can look uh if you look you can see an area kind of like a A Center Line in the center of that Dune almost pushes it back to to that level or back to that that distance where trishy I if you can see the see the arrow tring to do that for you you can see it yeah where that orange thing is
yeah so so so the Doom would basically go there at about 16 16 ft High all right in doing so now if you look at the width of our Beach uh go ahead Trish you can you can go okay stop there please all right so you see the proposed doing on the layout
you can see you can see the the fishing pier a little further you know at the top of the screen um go ahead borrow area a b and c okay stop there please all right so borrow area a if you look there's there's different because
because the crest beaches are wider in some areas and skiner in others burrow area a is uh is an area that a lot of that's in the water at L thaai borrow area B is what I'll call the Crux of the sand that they want to use to send down
to to North Wildwood um and also uh to build the new Dune that we had showed earlier borrow areas C uh in our in our discussions the D said hey you know if you know if it makes you happy we won't we won't use that area to to to build
the dun and we so that's pretty much off the table at this point so what we're really looking at now is borrow area a and borrow area B all right go ahead j y existing mean high water line propos low water after the
project okay so stop there please all right so you can see the distance between the existing mean high water line and the proposed is roughly 650 ft in this area as you look South it skinnies up even
more so the if you look if you so that area the new high tidde line if you look if you can kind of see through the graphics it basically puts you at the end or close or even further to the bike path past the existing fishing pier so
if you can imagine that being our you know the the area behind that basically being a new bathing Beach at high tide that significantly limits the enjoyment that our public and our residents have come
to uh come to love of w c so I think we all agree that you know W Crest I think we can safely say we all believe that this is the best beach on the East Coast when you if we were to do this project it now becomes shrunk it's there's public
safety issues uh there's space issues there's Ada access issues the list goes on and on and on and in our meetings we had proposed uh different ideas like hey can we do this can we do this the answer is overwhelmingly no we believe that we're
the only you know if you look at how big the Dune system is um that we have uh adequate protection case at point if you go back to October when there's the two hurricanes hit the West Coast of Florida which their beaches aren't even close
like this they fared fairly well I think we all agree that the flooding on this island comes more from the west side on the Bayside than it does here on the ocean front now that water line will in essence get moved closer to the bike path and the
bulkhead so if there is that one in every 100e storm and we get that hurricane to said they say that that 16t high Dune even though the water's now closer to the bike path will give the ocean front adequate protection and I I'm just
trying to get my hands around when you move the water no matter if it's 16 ft cuz by the fishing pier if you look at the North side it is it is already at 16 ft the south side is around 18 ft the Dune project as it intersects
with the fishing pier takes the Dune underneath the fishing pier we already have a problem with with the Dune system that we have now affecting the enjoyment of the pier from a maintenance standpoint and a you know a structural standpoint so we we're constantly having to do cleanup and and
work to to to keep it open to the public um in our original in our discussion you're going to hear people talk about the state aid agreement the state aid agreement was signed to keep the project going because there were times over the last 10 years that this project was going to not happen and they said hey
you need to sign a state agreement so we can basically show that that there's an interest in the project is there interest absolutely there's interest but not that kind of Interest that's why when the project was 60 to 65% and it's now 95% you all we all know you don't sign contracts until there's the meeting
of the Minds when everybody has all their issues worked out we were advised that the state agreement was needed to keep the project moving along we signed the state agreement in the state agreement also addressed alert credit that how the how the the Dune impacts the the fishing pier in essence the at
the time this was discussed that that the fish the fishing pier would have to be rebuilt to go over top of this new Dune to keep to keep the pier intact so anyway that pretty much summarizes I think I think the graphics of this is is pretty clear and it helps everybody
understand cuz when you hear articles in the paper and you get letters and you get bits and pieces of information you really can't get your hands around I think this video and Mark kudos to to your office and your surveying group for putting this together um this will help
the public and anyone understand what is happening and what is being presented as part of this project thanks Trish the lights on now yes please and then can we get this on our website so that people can yes uh Mr kff can we uh get this on
the Burrow's website please okay is there any questions on this I want to make sure that anybody yes sir so what for the record yes ma'am uh David McWilliams help me understand I mean
we're taking sand out and that's why the water Line's moving all the way down the beach yes how much couple feet uh every 30 feet is one foot every 100 feet is one foot I'm sorry every 100t it drops one feet towards the ocean so it this
okay you might want to put a bullet item I mean this is good but somebody said well how I mean as you went through it I'm figuring okay how is that how is that occurring right gotcha okay okay while I'm here one more question have any of the other municipalities
expressed reservations about this project obviously we formally said hey we're not interested okay have anybody else on the island let me ask W so what what where it's at right now um we had sent a letter opposing the project opposing the
project in a sense of like hey let's sit down and talk about some more of the details and maybe we can maybe we can work something out um basically there's there's there's discussions and those ass of ours have been shot down so we have been asked now to put together uh by on March 18th a formal letter
basically saying hey we're definitely out here's our resolution stating so so that is needs to happen happened according to uh the commissioner of the d Sean larette's letter by March the 18th um my understanding is is is that
obviously North Wildwood wants the project because they're the recipient of all the sand uh my understanding is that Wildwood is at this time opposed to the project uh in my conversations with uh the mayor of Wildwood uh and my understanding lower Township that their
beaches are all privately owned so the the private property owners the owners of those beaches are opposed to the project however the the lower Township itself um is taking a position that they're they're not for it or against it
they're whatever happens happens types of approach because they don't again as I mention they don't in the beach and I'm assuming these Dunes go all the way through Wildwood in front of the boardwalk as well the new Dunes not so much yeah we do have the plans that you are more than welcome to look at okay y
fair enough thank you you're welcome yes ma'am hello Jo Joyce ghoul former mayor former deputy mayor in politics in this buau for um 28 years beautiful beaches beautiful beaches beautiful beaches that's all I'm hearing and there are beautiful beaches but there's a little
bit more than that there are beautiful homes and there are a lot of people that live here according to statistics that I got from the clerk's office County Clerk the net taxable value for Wildwood Crest for the 2024 abstract rate abilities is
2 b385 m 210,00 that's what our little town is worth okay beautiful beaches are wonderful but there's more to it there are homes and there are people people make their livelihood there's money here
when I saw this you know Don you voted against this the first time the three of us voted against it the first time four years ago it'll be four years in December okay I can't understand why you've seen hurricanes coming you've seen them
become stronger and stronger fire and water there's such strong elements they can kill anything they can take people away you've seen this happen just because maybe the storms that we get start from the West isn't saying that
it's not going to come I don't know if the big one is ever are going to come we've talked about this for years I have lived here for 59 years and we've never had the big one I was not here in the 62 storm but that was just a flood but a flood did a lot of damage people in the crest were lucky because it is the crest
because it's the highest point of the island and people don't get the water that normally you would get in Wildwood or North Wildwood but I think that we are making a huge huge mistake by doing this Mr Franco that you're voting for it
and you have a beachfront property would you be willing to give up that Motel I mean would would that make would that make your family happy that you spent all these years Blood Sweat and Tears doing that would I be willing to give it up yeah because that's what's going to happen if you get a big storm you're
going to be giving it up because that that water is going to take everything it's it you I don't think anything is really you've never really thought about the people and the money that this this town this would incur from this town it would be catastrophic altogether probably in a hundred years
there won't be the Wildwoods anymore it'll all be sunk by Tides going up and Higher and Higher and Higher because that's what's happening the seas are rising we know the seas are rising and yet we're saying we're so good we don't need anything we're so smart we don't
need anything and gentlemen the three of you if that big one comes and this town is destroyed they will hang you by your you know what's and it will hurt thank you okay anybody else uh if you if we agree not to be in it
will they listen to that or is that an say that again so if you back out of it if we don't agree to it will they will they just not do it or no so there is uh funding for the entire project only onset by our the Army Corps so the
deadline if we decide not to participate and we send the letter the funding will be reallocated to somewhere else well that's word so if you decide not to participate they just won't do it that's what so we do have a choice in it correct yeah and I respect other people's opinion on it but I worry that we're going to change something
that we don't know what the effect is going to be and I'm just I'm not confident I'm not confident that whatever they change is going to be positive in the future so I'm just worried about playing with nature uh but so then we do have a choice which I I I
tend to I agree with you guys that we should just leave it where it is whether we do we have a choice in to build up those current Dunes there down the road or we would do that at our own CL so the alternative would be to leave everything the way it is and in the future just build up the current Dunes higher and do
the walkway so they are coming up so we're slightly more protected due to the winds those Dunes are going to build up anyway well I know and I know going to the beach over the years they are building up so one of my concerns about this whole project is the fact that changes the topog Topography of the
water itself we could end up like Kate May with a a clip in there or just a drop off and the point of brought up was excellent about so we're going to lose a foot in every 10 100 so we're going to lose six feet so we're where it's a six
foot cut it's a six foot cut and six foot gradually yep yeah so at the end again it's a it's a six foot 6 and 1/2 foot cut so that and I think that's an important thing is that we're really it's going to be like what we have in Kate what they have in Kate
May where they have the injuries because of that that cut is so great so so I think there so our as you you saw the video everyone knows how big and expansive our current Dune system is they're going to eliminate part of that to build a dune that's slightly higher
because we we have Dunes that are higher than what's being proposed already we are and so if we can build those up but they're going to they're going to say well the walkways that are cut through is makes makes the ocean front un compromised so I think the answer to
that is listen forecasted storm storms are forecasted right so if they Hurrican moving up a big one we could easily go out to bid and have a Contractor on board to to to pull the sand that we need to fill up those areas and and and keep this you know the the when I say
the areas I'm talking about where the walkways come down through have a Contractor on emergency contract to say hey we get a store we need to come out here with your heavy equipment and fill all these holes up and and we allowed to build them up over so permanently build up so like in I believe in some of the
other towns where they actually build up so when you walk to the beach you're actually going up a little bit of a hell are you allowed to do that or does that require that's a permanent issue I would that would be the in that would be the alternate to instead of doing everything is just to build up all those accesss
like on Washington Avenue where you drive on the beaches actually come up a little bit and go down so that would kind of split the difference there there may be another answer to all this stuff and I hear what you're saying because I think it's good if we're going to say no to something we should have an alternate
idea that could help protect us and I didn't get an opportunity to speak to the Commissioners or Mr DeBlasio about this but if you look at the pathway going down of the beach if we actually had another Dune system to the side of it where you kind of went around it that
may block it the wood are coming up I'm not an expert at this but it's just an idea and it's an alternative I don't know what the answer is to tell you the truth yeah and My worry is we're changing something we'll never know when they do this we'll never know what the total result will be 10 years from now because we're playing with nature and
and that worries me so about 12 years ago 10 or 12 years ago those of you who may remember we allowed North wild to take sand from the crest beaches and it created gullies and ponding in the back beaches for years it took us four years for the for mother nature to do exactly
what youed to to build those back beaches up on its own um so there so so yeah so this is this the Dune project is all built on that one in 100e storm is there a potential that that one in could absolutely do we have protection more so
than many other municipalities I mean the argument that you read this letter says all the New Jersey beaches have Ocean Front protection I can tell you that's not that's inaccurate we've got more protection right here than a lot of the counties that of the people that have beaches in the in C Kate May County
alone so well I thank you for coming up this was a great graph because you're right and people don't realize when they say 6 the height of the Dune it's not off the it's not the physical height it's off of the The Benchmark but I appreciate you doing it just was good for people that are for it or against it at least they could see what it actually
is I think I would just add the cut to that so you actually see at the end of that 6 foot on the east side of that 600 foot you're going to be six foot down gotcha so thank okay Mr deasio can we uh re-edit the video to include or show
this the slope of the beat that uh I think I think the scale is every 100 ft it drops it drops a foot you have to just double check the pl yeah probably what we would do is we would take the graphic from their actual plans they have a cross-section okay Mark I have a quick question about this
uh so after four years they for replenishment it's Congressional funding right for that if they don't have the funding what happens who who funds it yeah right so I don't know if that answers
Mrs Gold's question or not but that that funding will come directly from us if if there's no Congressional funding from us includes all of us all all the taxpayers not you know that's what that's what US is the whole town I guess what's being
said is there's no guarantee four years from now that money will be there to build the dunes back up the way they're supposed to be and when you when and if you will go through with this and you will go through with this that I'm sure of the fact that you said about the
D becoming friends you know with us and being on a good good talking relationship I have a feeling that they're going to say while oppressed is probably part of the Ukraine because I think they're going to wipe the hands of us all together I'm not sure if that's quite true but you may be
right well we hope not cuz I think we've been as I said before we've been nothing but good partners with the DP we've we've complied we've had the meetings we needed to have uh in advance we've we've we've done everything uh at the advice of our engineer and and up front and upfront so and we're being upfront with
uh with everything here if there were some opportunity for negotiation I think that there but there's just no no it's like this is this is the project and we're going to remove the bar RC and that's it that's the best that we can do and we're think okay well that's that significantly changes
so you know building I get the Every Storm but the now is is that as hotels motels businesses residents enjoy your beaches the way they are this will significantly change the personality of our beaches and our brand and that's a question you know and other than your
comments Mrs I got to be honest you're the that was the first I think four comment the project that I've that I've heard in in the last couple weeks and months so anyway so we I think you know fairness we're we're trying to do our due diligence um that is the reason for
us to keep making pushing back to the decision because we want to make sure that it is the right decision and that we are listening to Residents and that you know we're weighing out the pros and the cons and and doing all that but now you know the request is to make a decision because the decision is whether
or not they need to reallocate the money and if we had some more open dialogue with and hoping that they would listen to some of our ideas and discussions maybe that would work but this is basically this is the plan and and that's it well one of the things I have to say and working on the beach for all the years that I've been down there is
that beach is our Boardwalk that's what brings all the people to us if we didn't have the beach they wouldn't fill the hotels they wouldn't come and rent and the beach wasn't here so that beach is our Boardwalk that brings people in and I understand the you know the love for
the beach uh immensely and I don't want to lose uh blanket space for the people and also the part that our beach is so wide it gives people the opportunity to spread out not to be up on everybody's blanket and things like like that so I
look at that beach as just as our as our Boardwalk that brings our people here okay anybody else any comments questions yes sir Carl schmoyer 5201 Ocean Avenue I'm a city of Wildwood resident uh three key
points I'd like to mention uh Mr Mary uh don you had mentioned about when the sand was uh taken from both the crest and the city's beaches and truck to North Wildwood that ponding still occurs from Leeming to Rio Grand Avenue
that has not replenished itself and that ponding is there from around this time if we get some rain it'll be there till Memorial day until it's raked out so that has not replenished itself number two the borrow point or borrow area
C contradicts everything there's no one from the deep here to somewhat defend themselves but that contradicts everything that the d stands for in destroying Dunes that have naturally built and uh for the last 25
years 25 years ago those Dunes weren't there and you take a blade of grass and uh you're you're fined you you read this in the paper continually and that's a big concern to me I I just and and
I'm not a member of the spotted aisle Society but there's a lot of wildlife that lives in there I see this on a weekly basis and especially at night you go for a little walk you have a flashlight there you see a thousand eyes looking at you and they're not feral
cats I've seen every bit of wildlife in there except the black bear so uh I have a a big problem with them taking those parts of those Dunes away and uh the this six feet or the U 100t
6ot however you had had explained that uh that may be for the first couple of months but Mother Nature will change that how can they predict unless you're going to you know a poor concrete and and build a cement Pond like The Beverly
Hillbillies uh I I I think you're going to end up with a situation like is is in Cape May and you're going to have injuries and swimming and other opening up a lot of can of worms
for trying to I don't know how you shrink a peach all right yeah so the two big aspects of this pro project to summarize it is the sand transporting down to North Wildwood and the building of the Dune um uh so we talked about the
North Wildwood before what when we have the s that what what you just mentioned and having issues with that and um the Dune system as I as I said we have a dune system now uh that's pretty robust um I guess my concern or my question I mean if if if the a lot of this has to
do with the sand going down to North W and I don't know what needs to happen because I'm not an engineer but it seems to me that instead of you know taking sand from neighboring municipalities perhaps we fix the problem like why is the sand going away in North W it fixed
and addressed that problem and then that way we won't have you know have to tamper with other beaches to to to make it happen and I think that there is a solution where sand can be dredged from Herford and let to go to North W so if we could remove that off the table and then just focus on the Dune if there's
some more more things that we need to do to to to make our Dune system even more robust I'm we're happy to talk about it but unfortunately uh all those ideas and discussions are have uh basically been said we can't do it not going to happen
so all right that wraps up the discussion under uh under the uh old business um and is there any other public comments before we close and go into a close session um we have one last thing on the agenda and that is a a report from Public Works Joy you have your
report none okay all right we're has a com can you say okay all right um mam Clark I believe we have a resolution commission comments uh I don't have so we have a Clos session
authorizing executive closed in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act specifically njsa 10 42b with regard to three items safety measures on the bike path burrow interviews for administrator and
potential litigation to the dunes motion I'll second been moved and seconded that the for resolution be adopted roll call Mr shef yes Mr Frank yes mrri yes we'll take a