States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Roll call. Mr. Sheff >> here. >> Mr. Franco. >> Here. >> Mr. Cabrera.
>> I am here. Compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 public law 1975. The notice requirements have been satisfied as to the time, place, and date of holding said meeting by posting notice on the bulletin board here in Burough Hall and by emailing the
same to the Herald of Cape May County and the press of Atlantic City on October 15th, 2025. In the event of an emergency, the emergency exit is the door that you came in our front left, your back right, or the door just by the American flag. We're going to do a quick
sound check here. This meeting is being shown live on the burough's Facebook and YouTube channel. Vicki, how are we sounding back here? Are we good to go? >> We're good to go. >> Okay. Um, if you're watching this meeting live and you want to make a public comment, you're going to dial the
access number 888 363 4734. And when prompted, you're going to enter the access code 969920 followed by the pound or the hashtag. In the event you watch the recorded version
of this meeting and you have a comment or a question, you're more than welcome to email our clerk at clerkwoodrest.org or phone her at 6097298040. When you make a public comment, I'm going to read some excerpts and an
overview of the Open Public Meetings Act and it goes as follows. At a public meeting in New Jersey, individuals can voice their concerns, opinions, and questions about matters of public interest. The meeting the public comment period allows for expressions of support
or opposition to proposed actions and for the sharing of personal experiences and information relevant to the discussion. However, speakers must maintain decorum, refrain from personal attacks and avoid disruptive or disorderly conduct. What is allowed is
expressing opinions and concerns. Sharing personal experiences and information. You're certainly allowed to ask questions. We may or may not uh give a response or an answer uh because you may take some time to potentially look into the into the matter that's being
asked. You can make suggestions. What's not allowed is again personal attacks, obscenity, or slanderous remarks. And when I say slanderous remarks, that includes maintaining a civil tone. Avoid attacking individuals, especially employees of the bureau. I do not want
to hear any names mentioned. I uh certainly welcome opinion, but if your opinion leads to slanderous remarks and defamation of character, I'm going to cut off the comments right away. Opinions are not fact. I want to remind everybody of that. disruptive or disorderly conduct, filibustering or
hijacking the meetings. The bureau has time limits. You're allowed five minutes per person. The board may or may not respond. Uh again, depending if we have the answers or we don't have the answers. I want to make sure we we maintain respectful communication and I want to focus on the
issues. That said, Madame Clerk, may we move forward with the resolutions as we have no ordinances on the agenda for this evening. >> Yes, sir. The first is designating commission meeting dates and times for year 2026. >> I'll motion it. Second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the
foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cabera. >> Yes. >> Next is designating official holidays for year 2026. >> Motion it. Second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll calls. Mr. Schiff.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cabrera. >> Yes. Next is amending green team resolution number 25-97 adopted on March 12th, 2025 to allow for a composition of five to eight members
and authorizing the appointment of Susan Kraor with term expiring December 31st, 2026. >> A motion second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff, >> yes. >> Mr. Franco, >> yes. >> Mr. Cabrera,
>> yes. Next is authorizing amendment to the 2025 municipal budget to account for additional funding from the New Jersey Small Cities Community Development Block Grant 2025 ADA compliance for bathrooms. >> Motion second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the
foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cabrera. >> Yes. >> 2025 municipal budget. >> Excuse me. One second. >> Excuse me. Somebody's on the conference line. Can you mute your phone, please?
>> Pardon? Mute my phone. Sure. >> Yes. Thank you. >> Next. >> And excuse me one second. And Vicki, I just received a message that the video is not working. >> We have the audio. I think we can still while you're working on that, we can >> certainly. Next is authorizing increase
of contract amount of 7,900 to Acuity Consulting Services for affordable housing planner and administrative agent for 2025. >> A motion second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> No.
>> No. >> No. >> And Mr. Cabera? >> Yes. Next is authorizing burrow engineer work order for reconstruction of Bayiew Drive, Denver Avenue to Miami Avenue for the engineering cost and construction phase at the not to exceed sum of
65,000. >> A motion second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cabera. >> Yes. >> Lastly is authorizing approval of change order number one final reconstruction of
Toledo Avenue fiscal year 2024. NJ DOT municipal aid to reflect milling and paving of 400 East Stockton Road. Work in front of 8800 Bay View Drive. Work at the intersection of Charleston and Bay View Avenues and asbuilt quantity
adjustments at the not to exceed sum of 36,8259. >> Motion second. >> It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff, >> yes. >> Mr. Franco, >> no. >> Mr. Mr. Cabera. >> Yes. >> Motion that all bills properly
authorized as submitted be paid. >> I'll second. >> It has been moved and seconded that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. >> Yes. >> Mr. Cabera. >> Yes. >> Okay. That brings us to
>> reports. We're going to start with Chief Lloyd. Good evening, governing body public. I am going to hit some highlights from my August report to the Commissioner of Public Safety. In the month of August, we responded to
2,399 calls for service. 1,250 required more than one officer. Conducted 190 investigation, excuse me. Um
we conducted 501 service calls. Uh they include alarm, citizen assists, fires, medical assists, school related activities, and utility complaints. Conducted 526 motor vehicle stops with 153 traffic summons issued. Uh we had 19
motor vehicle accidents, 172 administrative calls, 338 property checks, 530 hours of training, and we had 25 adult arrests, one juvenile
arrest, and 14 DWIs. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Chief. >> Okay, >> Billy. Billy Crips couldn't make it tonight. He said he'll continue his report at our next meeting.
>> Oh, it's working now. >> I have Chief Johnson's report. >> So, our last guarding day was Sunday, September 7th. Last two weekends, September 13, 14, 20, and 21. The Wildwood Press Feet Patrol Emergency
Response Team was on duty from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. and there were no reported incidents. While we press FET patrol ocean safety advice, never swim in the ocean unprotected. Please swim like there's no guards. Uh and don't go into the water and never
swim alone. Thank you for the cooperation and support in another safe and successful summer on the beach and the beach patrol is much appreciated. I'll bet. Thank you. That's from Buddy Johnson. >> Okay. Thank you. Motion. All reports
received from the court administrator, chief financial officer, tax collector, chief of police, supervisor for the recreation department, construction official, fire prevention, emergency service coordinator for the EMS, and the wild crest volunteer fire company chief
for the month ending August 31st, 2025 be accepted as present. >> Seconded. It has been moved and seconded that all reports received from the court administrator, chief financial officer, tax collector, chief of police, supervisor for the recreation department, construction official, fire
prevention, emergency services coordinator for the EMS, and the Wildwood Crest volunteer fire company chief for the month ending August 31st, 2025 be accepted as presented. Roll call. Mr. Schiff, >> yes. >> Mr. Franco, >> yes. >> Mr. Cabera, >> yes. Motion that all minutes from the
commission's meeting dated August 26th and September 10th, 2025 be approved as presented. I'll second it. >> It has been moved and seconded that all minutes from the commission meetings dated August 26th and September 10th, 2025 be approved as presented. Roll
call. Mr. Schiff. >> Yes. >> Mr. Franco. Yes. >> Mr. Cabera. >> Yes. >> Okay. Brings us to Mr. Delasio. Engineers report. >> Okay. Thank you, mayor. Under capital projects, we have a couple of updates.
As you may have observed, the contractor for the Bayside bulkhead replacement flood mitigation project has remobilized. You'll see that there are some pretty large uh mechanical valves that are on site. So, they've remobilized and they're starting to install those storm water valves and they'll be working through this fall,
winter, and early spring to wrap up that project. With the approval tonight of the reconstruction of Bay View Drive, we will now begin design work and move that project as quickly as we can. Uh, next one is the Burough's New Jersey
I Bank Sanitary Sewer and Roadway Improvement Project. That contractor has mobilized to the burrow and started work on Stockton Road. That contractor is moving a little bit slower than we like, so we're giving him a professional kick in the pants to to accelerate their work schedule. So, that is ongoing.
last capital project, a New Jersey Avenue sanitary sewer water main improvement project. So, as requested by the burrow, that contractor will be mobilizing to start work in the middle of October and that'll be ongoing through um the spring of next year. The only
other item that I have to update the commissioners on relative to grant applications is the C County Open Space application for the Crest Fishing Pier. Um we submitted that application on September 2nd. We made the required presentation to the
Kate May County Open Space Board on the 16th of September. On the 19th, we received a letter from the Kate County Open Space Board uh stating that they were going to be recommending a $2.5 million grant to uh the county commissioners. The public hearing on
that application is October 28th of this year. And if all goes well in December, the county commissioners will approve that grant uh for 2.5 million. And that's my report. >> Okay. Thank you. Anybody any questions
for Mr. Delasio? >> Yeah. Thank you, >> Commissioner. >> I'm good. Thank you. >> Okay. Moving on. >> Always impressed. >> All right. Under correspondence, he's having our packet. Uh we did receive
uh a request from a resident uh who attached some photos. Uh basically to summarize it, he's uh asking the burrow if there could be a program where uh trees could be uh uh planted in the
public rightway generally where the grass strip is between the curb and the sidewall. In some areas it's it's concrete, some areas it might be stone or pavers or something like that. um in an effort to keep uh keep the greenery in in the excuse me in the community. So
I had uh he had reached out to me. I asked him to send the photos and and then email to us for consideration. Um I I I know there's been uh there's been some trees uh that private property owners do plant. there's there hasn't
been a program that the bureau moves forward with, although I know there's forestry grants that could potentially uh do that. Um our ordinance, just to just to confirm, uh once that tree is planted, it it basically is is owned by
the property owner. So, I think it's safe to say the reason why there's not more trees is is um is because they would be required to take care of it. That said, if the burrow wanted to move forward with an idea like this, I I I think it would probably be it'd be safe
to say that, you know, if we encourage or or or plant trees, then the burough may eventually have to have to maintain that, which would mean that we'd have to do an ordinance revision or something like that. So, it's too much. So, I obviously can't make a decision on that
now, but I guess for purpose of this resident's request, what is what is the what is the uh the opinion of the board? We don't have to answer that now. We can certainly put that under old business and it can follow back up on it. >> This be something that the board would weigh in on? >> It could be. Yes, it would be uh it's
considered land use. >> I would suggest that for me to have them weigh on weigh in and take it from there. >> Yeah. And probably the green too. >> One of the uh the issues that did come up and it's funny we're talking about trees in front of our school. I think
Joe was there and we were planting trees too. uh we had the trees planted and in the flooding areas from of course the rain and the bay those trees died they never made it because of the salt water and future. So I think it would be
important if we wanted to do that is to look at the flooding situations on the street so it doesn't kill you know the trees that we're putting up there just as every resident knows the grass dies when you get flooded. So, that was the same thing we had with the trees at the
school and we had to pull those trees out. Just a thought. >> Okay. Uh, so how about we keep it on their old business here and refer it to the green team and the planning board. >> Kender, >> ask them to weigh in on it. And I'm assuming Peter Limax, our environmental consultant, may also have to weigh in on
this at some point. So perhaps the green team can ask him to uh review it as well. Okay. Uh, new business. Just a reminder, I should say, uh, the November 19th commission meeting, uh, has been moved to November 18th to 9:30 a.m. So,
public notice will go out on that, but >> it's already out. >> It's already out. All right. So, those of us here, um, if you're interested, uh, November 18th is the, uh, is the is the meeting, second meeting in November, and that will be held at 9:30, uh, here in this room. >> I'll keep it on every agenda until then
as well, so it's a reminder. >> Okay. uh under old business. Uh I'll just go through this real quick. Box truck ordinance. U waiting on comment for that now that the season's over from the police department. 250th birthday committee. Uh if anyone has any interest
to serve on the burrow's 20th 50th, which next year is the burrow, sorry, is the country's 250th birthday. If you're interested in helping come up with ideas on programs and events and so forth, send an email to our clerk and we'll get you on a committee. There'll probably be a meeting sometime at the end of
November. Crash Municipal App is on hold. Uh historical museum. Uh again, there's a recreation um staff person that is going through and inventorying uh everything that's down there. I did ask her to at a future meeting to do an uh to do a report to
the governing body so everybody can be brought up to speed as to what she's finding and ideas. Uh traffic calming. Uh we're still waiting on the grant. Uh here we're back on that beach uh back beach excavation. Uh so that has to do
with the low-lying areas where water is ponding in the back beaches. Uh I can confirm that uh with the help of environmental uh our environmental consultant that with public works we'll be installing some snow fence that will capture the
sand and then the snow fence will be removed. So, instead of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, we're going to try to do it the natural way, which is put the snow fence in, let the winter sand uh get caught by a snow fence, and then we'll remove the snow fence before the start of the season,
and then smooth it all out so that we don't have to move sand away cuz that would be uh would be upwards of half a million to a million dollars to do the whole beach. That will start sometime in October. Uh, Commissioner Franco, anything on dredging?
>> Still in the acquisition phase, ma'am. >> Okay. Uh, New Jersey Avenue Infrastructure Pre-E County Mark, anything on that? I know that uh we're ready to they're ready to start the uh you covered that on your report. >> Yeah, that's midocctober as requested. >> Okay. There is a and then there's a a
request uh following my request with the county engineer for some information uh so we can share the kind of the timeline of their work versus our work and so forth. So, uh, more to go on that. Uh, Washington Avenue C viewfalls in capacity. There's a a pending grant
that's sitting out there upwards of, uh, $25 million. We're waiting to hear back on that from the Army Corps. I'm sorry. Yeah, from the FEMA, I'm sorry. >> Uh, on that, everything looks good. They have all the information. Uh, the um the Army Corps Dune and the uh sand
backpassing barring that the state wants to do. Uh no movement on that. Uh and it's basically it's coming down to um the Army Corps whether or not they're going to keep finding in place for what they call beach replenishment, although it's not beach replenishment uh for Wild Crest
and um and and and see where it goes from there. Um my understanding is there's potentially uh another option for North Wild to get sand. So they're kind of waiting to see how that that that uh pans out.
Burough Hall renovations. Nothing on that from the architect and the fishing pier. Nothing on that other than what Mr. Delasio had commented on. All right. Gary body, any anything else you want to add under all business? >> Oh, good. Thank you. >> I do. The beach fall the beach out fall
lines. Mark, we applied for that grant. How long ago? >> Um for Washington Avenue. So the one uh alpha in Washington that was two years ago and that's still ongoing because we got some information
from our grant coordinator. >> They had 45 million >> what's that >> for all the whole thing is >> yeah for both because there was a there was a question that came from FEMA on uh square footage costs for structures and we had that answered. So the fact that
they keep me asking questions is a good sign >> two years later. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. New president. So, some things changed. >> That's all I got, mayor. >> Okay. >> Uh, all right. So, that brings us up to
public comments. Uh, all we need is your name. Do not need your address. And please call up to the podium. >> Sorry, I I just got to run. But, uh, my name is Dennis Hall. Uh, I owned a property at Aster, New Jersey. Leader
Primal building uh 50 next to uh Scott Peters house next to the lot that uh recently was put up for auction. Um my concern uh even with the new plans and the
parking that I understand will be increased. I look at Central Park in New York and they were very wise to grab the land and they never let it go. Uh parking has always been a problem uh especially on the barrier islands. It's not going to
get less, it's going to be more no matter what we're able to do on New Jersey Avenue. So, here's what I would like to say. I know the burrow had a verbal somewhat uh agreement with Mr. Peters, I believe, and then he uh
decided uh he wanted more money, which it's his property. Uh my concern is the lot that uh was put up for auction. Here's what I would like to propose. I have the building that is on uh Aster
and New Jersey about 5,000 square ft up on the on the roof. It was made to put some residential units on it. My uh problem I need parking. I need at least two parking spaces to put one unit up there. So, I need part of that land. I
believe it's my understanding the burrow has the lot, but it's really not big enough. the the lot at Crocus in New Jersey that you put up for auction. I my understanding is it's not big enough for the parking for for that lot
and ideally you uh the burrow was going to buy Scott's property and have a bigger property. What I would propose I would love to partner with the burrow. All I need is enough for two parking spaces so I can uh and an elevator uh so
that I can put at least one residential unit on top of my building. So I don't need all of Scott's property, but I need enough for two parking spaces. So if what's left is enough to increase the
property the bureau already owns at Croen New Jersey to make it for entrance and egress and exit. If that would help, it would help me too. And it helps our burrow because we have more parking. Uh even though we might not need it now
with New Jersey Avenue being uh uh rearranged and hey, thank you very much. Uh, but you can never have enough parking, especially on a barrier island. So, I would I don't know who I would even talk to. I don't know if this even makes any sense to others, but I would
love to partner and pay a portion of the cost that Scott wants so that I have enough to look at uh developing the top of the building and hopefully that would work with what would be left at the burough would still uh make that corner
property a parking lot with the addition of what they buy from Scott. Make sense? I don't know if it does or not, but anyway, I also want to say I I just throw it out for consideration. And I also want to say thank you for all of you, not only um uh all of you, because
everybody here that is working in your position or any position, it makes our community so great. And no matter how right or wrong you are in any decision, stones are going to come. So, uh thank you for being willing to take the stones. And uh thank you. I think my
five minutes is up. Anybody else? >> Good. >> Sorry. Hello. Excuse me one second. We're we're starting with uh individuals that are here in person in the meeting and then we'll come to the conference line when we're done. >> That's fine. I can't see. So,
>> no worries. All good. >> Yes. I own the property of the Jellyfish Cafe which saw Fran Fowler. >> Thank you. >> I'm right across from where Dennis is talking about and I have the same concerns about the lot that went up for auction. I don't quite understand what
happened to the original plans. Uh I just want to second that that parking is critical for that for that area. I mean I have people constantly you the residential people going crazy over parking. I had made the uh suggestion
years ago at the last couple meetings that we didn't really why we were waiting for the county. Why didn't we do the parking lot? Because we need it and that's the city, not the county. And at that meeting, everybody's like, "Oh, that's a great idea." Of course, never heard another thing about it. But
anyway, uh I just wanted to second that opinion on that that house not being auctioned off, figuring out a way to uh to deal and get the little house next to it and uh and be able to put that parking in at some point. Done. Thank
you. >> Anybody else here in the room? >> Hi, Katherine Hughes. Um, I was wondering uh about the information center that is on Rambler. Uh, why did we not give it to the lifeguards? I
heard it became a cafe. >> Did >> with taxpayer money that built the cafe or that built that information? I'm just wondering why it didn't go to the city. Why we're using it as like a for-profit kind of a business.
>> Okay. So, so, >> so behind the lifeguard stand that building, >> right? So, that's that's uh so that burough that building is owned by the burrow used to be used to be the tourism building called investment center. >> So, the after the renovations of the beach patrol building
over that that that was specific to the headquarters for the beach patrol. The building that you're talking about, the NESB center was uh was where the tourism center was that was being used by the beach patrol. And then the tourism center when the arts pavilion went relocated to the art sorry to the arts
pavilion on Wisteria road that left that building available. So the burrow to keep revenue uh flows now and coming in in the future for miscellaneous revenues. We went out to bid for uh for
a cafe and then that's what you see there now. So >> how much did we make from that? Well, the the bid specs, I believe, is $11,000 a year and then the fourth and the fifth year goes up another $5,000. >> I just feel like we should have kept
that for the city and used it for the, you know, that's my opinion, but I was just wondering why the lifeguards kind of didn't get it. I just feel like we could have used that, especially all year round, whereas what is the cafe open three months? >> Well, let me help you out a little bit with the lifeguard usage. So, as the
mayor was talking about, >> when we're in construction of the building, we use that as our facility. >> Yeah. >> After we were out of there, uh we are using part of that building. We're using the back part of the building for storage. >> Okay. >> So, which is which is convenient and
necessary for the beach patrol. Uh the opportunity came up to make that front building a store. >> Okay. >> So, that's how that whole thing worked out. Uh, did the city buy property behind the pool, >> the crest pool? >> Yes.
>> Uh, what are we using that for? >> Uh, so if you look at the aerial view of that lot >> Mhm. >> it was an odd shaped lot with a vacated with a street that needed to be vacated there. So when we're looking at the lot said it makes more sense for the burrow
to have it than have a residential property that's abuts the pool and an oddshaped lot. So that down the road for it creates buildable lots that the burrow could sell off down the road if they wanted if the burough wanted to for revenue if they needed to. Not saying
that's the case that is needed but creates that opportunity. Could be for additional recreation could be for additional pool uh expansion whatever but the bureau has now has that lot. >> May I ask how much we pay for? >> 770ish. >> Correct.
>> Okay. Um, do we have any ongoing lawsuits for this calendar year, >> for the 2025 year? >> Ongoing lawsuits on >> Well, I wasn't sure if the city has lawsuits going on. >> I'm sure has lawsuits going on. The
answer is yes. >> Do we know how much we're spending on it for this year? >> Generally, they're covered by the burough's insurance. >> So, it's not taxpayer money. >> Not usually. Uh, well, it kind of, let me rephrase. It's a self-insured fund. So um
>> so in in the end what we pay into our self insurance fund yeah it would be considered tax but the payouts generally are not coming out of tax dollars. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Anybody else? Uh Chris Hughes,
uh talking about parking, and maybe this is a planning board thing, too, but we're talking about parking and buying houses for parking when you're watching all over the island properties get redeveloped, three-bedroom houses with one off- streetet parking. And the
garage, you can't even put a car in it. The garage becomes a storage locker. So you have houses being built on the west side of New Jersey Avenue with three plus bedrooms with one off- streetet parking spot and we all know that the street floods. I don't know how that
makes sense but I mean one of myself one of the points for me buying my house was threec car driveway. We get all the get all the cars out of the street. But we talk about parking when you can't even the parking on a local level even outside of New Jersey Avenue is starting to dwindle because the house pro the
development developing to me is becoming a problem. the old the oldfashioned shore house is slowly disappearing in the sense of I guess people don't like being outside anymore on their own property because the the houses seem to be developing like the entire lot
without any backyard and you see people sitting in their driveways grilling and and all this other stuff which is fine but now they have to put their car in the street and that takes up more parking so maybe there's something I don't know again maybe this is a planning board thing if there's something we can do for the de future
development to make sense more more for the future of parking, I guess. >> Mhm. >> Um trees, plant native trees and when the salt water comes up, you won't have to
rip them out. Red cedars, they're all over the island. The water comes up and you don't even have to do anything. They're evergreens. There's no maintenance to them. Yeah, you maybe clean up some branches here and there, but if if you're saying it's the the owner of the house's problem, they don't you don't do nothing. They just grow.
Salt water comes up, they're salt tolerant. Salt water goes away. Trees still there. You got shade, everything. I mean, it's another thing, safety barriers. Trees, I don't know how I mean, again, you
can't grow a tree quickly. You can buy some bigger trees. You can put some trees in some spots to act as safety barriers. it will stop or at least slow one down. But that being said, the police department and the DMT service do a great job of blocking the
roads for the concerts at Centennial Park. So when we walk up the street because we live on Fern, for the most part, it's really hard to see where somebody would really come from if that were to ever happen anyway. But is there another avenue of maybe like not using as many ballasts as you were talking
about and maybe planting some trees strategically around instead of putting a cement ballard. Um something else I like to say was a cars hanging over a sidewalks. What is that?
Is somebody's driveway is somebody allowed to use the sidewalk to park their car? No. So, just as an example that the new property in Wildwood, like what I forget what it is, it's a couple blocks after 26th Street. The entire
block, I don't know how many variances they got, but every single one of those properties, the driveway hangs the the park uh the sidewalk. Every single one of them. I don't know what needs to be if there's something to be done. So, that can't happen here because that
doesn't seem to make any sense for a safety on a safety level, but it's it seems to be starting to happen. You can see there's cars just hanging driveways, I don't know, or hanging the the sidewalks for some reason. >> So, you're saying the uh the off street parking when they pull into their off
street parking space, the back of their car still hangs in sidewalk. You have to go out in the roadway and and to get around it. >> Is that new construction, Chris, or whatever it is? It's right there at like Magnolia. It's across from that Magnolia Park, I think it is. It's right by Green. Yeah. The old >> I'm aware of what you're talking about.
I'm talking about Bob Crest. Is that what you're saying? >> There's a There's a couple. I've seen a couple. We've on bike rides. We've had to go around cars and it's just like I I don't understand why you have a garage door there, but your car hangs the sidewalk. >> So, I guess the suggestion to you would be if you see something like that, call
the police department. >> Yeah. I mean, but we live I live here. I'm not trying to, you know, I don't want to >> I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just it's something that needs to be just >> the plan does a very good job of of >> just fixing that issue that you're just
discussing on Magnolia. So, >> um I seem to do a good job of of that, making sure that that doesn't happen here. >> Very cool. One real quick, uh bonfire permits for the wintertime on the beach. It's a beach state park does it for fishermen. You can light a fire on the
beach, no problem. People have been doing it for years. No issues whatsoever. Your car fire extinguisher already for your beach permit. That's all you need up there. No problems. Our beach is huge. Just as a way to enjoy the beach in the winter time. Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you. All right. Just a couple comments. Uh so on the trees, I I'm listen I'm personally a big advocate of trees. the environmental consultant we have uh mentioned some of those trees that you mentioned uh types of trees I'll call it that you mentioned and
there's a couple others as well so we're going to go we're going to stick our nose back in that and see see what we can do I know we've in some of our public spaces that we planted trees they unfortunately died um so we're going to keep yeah it's tough um but the the issue on the uh uh the number of parking
spaces and all that too some of that's regulated by the state and some of it's regulated from our land use ordinance so I would say Maybe that comment should you should get a chance to go to the planning board and go on the record with the planning board and then look at it and then they'll do their they'll add it to their their uh
their discussion items and then go from there. uh with respect to the Centennial Park and the Balliards. So the Balliards was an idea for for short-term to get safety, but um as we as we looked at the as we looked at the project and so forth, I think we all agree that
Centennial Park especially is a nice beautiful open park with natural landscaping with the grass and the land. We want to keep that look cuz that's that's that's something special that we have when you have the ocean at your background and you have the band plan and people are enjoying it. So, >> absolutely. >> Um, instead of all yours, maybe more
trees and plantings is is what the goal is. Um, okay. I hope I answered all your questions. Anybody else? Public comment. Kelly Franco. Um, I was just going to sit and listen, but this past two weeks, I was able to attend two burrow events,
the um 911 memorial and then seafares. And I just wanted to say thank you to everybody who put those together. Um, I know a lot of work goes into that. um especially seafarers. Um I was able to go with two of my childhood friends that we went to as kids. So it was nice to go
um with some of their kids. So thank you to public safety and the rec department that put those on. >> Thank you. >> I like your last name. >> I'm not a conflict of interest. >> Yeah. France. Now one more question. I understand this road project on New
Jersey Avenue is about to start here. Uh, has there been any changes to the plans? Do you guys know? Or is it the original plan? >> Yes, the work that we're referring to starting. So, the burrow owns the infrastructure, the the sanitary sewer system. The city of Wildwood has the water utility. So, the infrastructure
work is what's going to start here in the fall. As soon as we have a better time frame on the county when they come in and do Cressy down to Rambler, we'll have more information. I can tell you November 8th is going to be public six, I'm sorry. November 6th is going to be a
public presentation by our planner as to what the design uh could look like and we'll >> So those old designs aren't necessarily >> close was going to be like diagonal maybe a bike. >> No, it's changed. It's changed a bit.
Yeah, there's going to be some park. We found that um >> there some of the parking you know how people when they pull to the parking they here's the yellow line but they don't they park their car way over here. If they would just pull up to the line and we had we delineated the parking spaces, we we could fit more cars along
New Jersey Avenue and any any any >> parking on New Jersey Avenue is not a great idea when you got to back out on the New Jersey. I mean, anytime you got to back out, but I just was worried if there was any major changes to that to those plans. So before the November 6th meeting, just as an FYI, so any any
business owners because we're very concerned about business get making sure business owners are understanding the parking, understanding the access, loading and unloading areas and all that. There's going to be a preliminary meeting with the business owners before we get to the the pool. >> That's the first week of November.
>> Yeah. >> Okay. I'll work on that. Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Can we send a letter out to that district to let them know a reminder? So you remember we're having it back. >> Yeah. Brian has a press release going. >> That's okay. Very good. Thank you.
>> Okay. Hearing no other public comment here in the audience. We're going to go to the conference line. Oops. I'm sorry. >> James. I'm sorry. We have We had one more in the audience. I'm sorry. Hold on one second. >> Pardon me. >> I was talking to the guy.
>> James Zea Hollywood Avenue. Um, a couple things. First of all, I think the overall burrow looks very good and congratulations on your way of moving the infrastructure projects around street to street and back and forth. You've kept the place very nice. Uh I
also like to make a special comment about the trash collection. I think those guys do a tremendous job and uh they've done a good job of keeping the place clean despite the few people in the shout in the Harold who don't seem to understand why they have to own a trash can.
uh overall good on all that. Um I saw in the Harold the discussion at the last meeting back and forth and I believe the whole project about the uh barriers and all is totally unneeded. I think if you ran a potential problem analysis
on the situation, you would find out that the probability of an event is extremely low and the severity of an event would be very minimal. Uh, I don't understand why you're going to start a massive spending
and it just should not happen. I'm completely with Mr. Franco on this. Knock it off. It's It's all not unnecessary and any kind of realistic potential problem analysis would indicate that. Okay. >> Thank you. >> You want to comment on it,
>> Chief? Uh, I guess I'll defer you with that one. Are you okay? >> Pardon me. >> I think you I think >> I'm asking the chief of police. Well, I I think if you ask all the people who fell victim to vehicle born tax, uh what they thought the probability to them
being victim, >> but what you guys did for the New Jersey Avenue, what you do at Fern Park, the way you set your vehicles up, it's not obtrusive, and when it when it goes away, it goes away. And while the crowd's there, you're protecting them very well.
You just don't need to spend 300,000 bucks on one park because that's going to open the door to many more and constant spending. And with Mr. Franco, while I think the burrow is in good shape, I'd like to see it stay that way
financially. And on and spending on something with such a low possibility and and severity just doesn't make sense. look at how you run a potential problem analysis and you'll see that that the uh the projects are not needed.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> I'll just have to add something with all due respect. I appreciate your comments and I understand what you're saying, but I guess my feeling is this. What does one life cost? And that's all it takes. That's all
that's all I want to say. You're missing the whole point. >> I understand. I understand your point. >> No, you're missing the whole point. >> Okay. >> The point is when does it end? Because if you need the barriers for that, what if they decide to go into one of the upper hotel rooms with a rifle? What if
they decide to do something different and throw a bomb in an area or walk in with with with a a device strapped to them? >> There's there's a ton of scenarios. I agree with you. And to to to pick out one specific event and say we're going
to cover that one event that one time at this type of cost makes no sense. Look at your neighboring communities. They're not doing that. Washington Mall is Street Mall and Cape May wide open. And I don't see them doing anything about it. Why are we the ones that got to be
the first to do this kind of stuff at this cost ratio? It's just too much money for too little chance of return. >> I hear you. And and you have the barriers on the beach going in which are going to be almost useless unless you block the inlets and stop the flooding,
but you're going to screw up the beach with with the doom barriers. >> Okay, very riskreward. The riskreward ratios are no good and the analysis doesn't seem to be there. What is the possibility of of an event?
It's extremely small. Like I said, there's there's potential problem analysis. It it shows you methodology for thinking about this stuff and deciding what to do. And I don't see that methodology, but I see right running to the spending. It's not
correct. Thank you. >> Thank you. Okay. Anybody else here on the before in the audience before we go to the conference line? >> Okay. Conference line. Go ahead. I'm sorry for the delay. >> No problem. Again, my name is Don Miller
and this is going to be a very unpopular question, I'm guessing, but given the Lord's. >> Uhoh. >> Don, you there? >> Call back. >> He was way back. >> You must have hit a bad slot on the Parkway. Hello. Did you hear me?
>> Yeah. No, you cut out there. You must have in the parkway or somewhere. We're getting bad cell reception. >> No, no. I I actually got out of my car intentionally. Sorry. The question the question was given the large disparity between the current market values and the current assessed values in the crest
is the bureau considering doing either a revaluation or reassessment as North Wildwood has announced that they are going to do? >> The answer is is yeah so the county uh county taxation board generally weighs in on all that. I know that they've we haven't officially received notice yet
but we know it's coming. >> It's coming. So, uh, it's probably, my guess is it'll probably be next year. >> End of next year. >> I read the article that the the county hadn't required it yet, but Northw got started on their own in advance of the county requiring it. So, I didn't know
what our plans were. >> Yep. That's So, I would say probably in 2026 into 2027. >> Okay. Thank you. >> You're welcome. Anything Anybody else on the conference line have public comment? >> Okay. We are going to Hi, excuse me.
Excuse me. Sorry, I had to get off on mute. Uh, my name is Katherine Kenny and I have a residence off of New Jersey Avenue and I am calling in reference to the parking situation. I did attend that meeting several years ago which was your visionary of New Jersey Avenue. I can't
say I was in agreement with it, but that's okay. uh but it would include these stores that you think will be occupied and bring people to the area but also that there would be housing above that. To me that is considered dense housing and there would be parking
I understand in the rear of these uh buildings but uh I'm hoping that there would be two parking spaces per unit. Currently the problem on the parking on New Jersey Avenue is a problem and that filters onto our street. My street does
not not all the homes because a lot of them are older don't even have off- streetet parking. My residence has off streetet parking but I can't tell you how many times that somebody blocks my driveway or partially boxed it so that it makes it difficult for me to get in
and out. Now, do I want to be calling the cops every single time? No, because I want to be a good neighbor to my business associates on New Jersey Avenue. But do should I have to tolerate that? No. So to me, I think that, you know, you really need to think about
additional parking and what will be the best parking for the area as you proceed ahead. Um, you know, you bought that property at uh Cretian and New Jersey Avenue for a very reasonable price. Now, you know, you couldn't sell it for the
$770,000 to my best to my knowledge. Uh, so where would it be better served the community? I think that, you know, you should leave it as an open space. There's not a lot of pvious area in that development that
you're looking at. So, if you put um shelves there, that would make it a more pvious area in an area that is very impervious to begin with. Um let's see, what else did I want to say? uh so you know I think that uh you know you should
consider the benefits of that pvious versus impervious surface in the coming area in coming years um because you you know we need it we need for the water to be absorbed uh and you need to really think about
what your long range goal is. If your long range goal is really to have a business district, then you need to provide a parking for people in that area. In short term, it would help because when the county starts to work on New Jersey Avenue and those businesses are trying to maintain
themselves and survive doing that, then there will be parking for those people that are coming into there. And whether it's a shorter term for somebody just going to the bakery versus somebody going to the print shop or just going over to Jellyfish to have breakfast or lunch and be there for 45 minutes. It
will also help us in the community. You need to think when that property is gone, it's gone. It's not going to come back. To replace it and put a parking lot in somewhere would cost you more money than you would want to put out. So do the neighbors, do the business, do
the visitors a favor. keep that property open and use it for parking in the future. >> Thank you. >> Well, so you're you're talk so you're talking about the property on Crocus and then you're just confirm >> correct. >> Okay. So if so the the in order for the
burrow to to create parking there would require the acquisition of the neighboring property which is right beside there. So, I don't know what that I don't wouldn't want to guess on what the cost would be, but probably half a million or so, I would say.
>> Um, but but I just said that I just want to make >> So, then I just want to make sure I understood what you said. And then you said that if if obviously if with no purchase is to keep the property there as a vacant lot, whether it had shells on it, grass, what have you. >> Correct.
>> Okay. Just want to make sure >> because you have to think in you have to have a vision. you were telling you're the meeting I went to was a visionary meeting. So if you're going to have vision then you need to be thinking in terms of what else could we do with this
property if it could not be just for a you got it at such a reasonable price. Why would you let that piece of property go that's an open piece that people can use for whatever you know once it's gone though nobody can use it. And you know,
if you want to make it uh a business area and attract people to it, you've got to provide the atmosphere and provide the park. >> Understood. >> Okay, >> you got it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. Anybody else? Anybody else on
the conference want? >> Okay, that wraps up public comment. We're going to go right to commissioner comments. I just want to extend congratulations to Chief Johnson uh on 60 years. Uh I was
hoping to see him tonight. 60 years of service with Bob Crest. Um that's amazing. Um and I hope he's here u much longer. Um cuz the town is much safer with him
here. And uh I just wanted to say congratulations to him and the whole beach patrol for doing a fantastic job this summer. That's all I got. May there >> took the words out of my mouth. That was tonight's uh comment from me that Buddy
Johnson has served 60 consecutive years. And I'd like for all of you to think about that for a minute. Do we know another employee that's been in working at this point for 60 years? I mean, it's hard to think. I don't know there how
many of there are in New Jersey, but he does a fantastic job. He cares about our community. The community is always first and more importantly the safety on the beach. And uh that's the biggest commodity I think that we have. I've
been saying that the uh the beach is our boardwalk here. And if it's not a safe beach, we don't have anybody on our boardwalk. So once again, bud, I asked him to be here tonight. He's not coming here tonight.
We had a proclamation. He didn't want the proclamation. Buddy Johnson is a pure person. And thank you so much. >> I agree with you. I agree. >> He would have shook your hand.
>> Okay. Um any comments I have? First of all, uh reminder everybody that the winter trash schedule starts on October the 1st. So, if you have if you're used to the the middle of the week trash pickup, that's going to stop as of October the 1st. Uh I also want to echo
uh recreations uh and and public safety at the everybody that was involved uh on seafares. The weather was nice, a little windy, but was good. I was amazed to see a 9-year-old wolf down the apple pie as fast as he did, but he did. He got most of it up his nose, I think. But you're still one. It's all good. But um thanks
for coming out. >> I do have one more thing now that you're talking about that Joe. When's the lights turn? >> I was just reading my lights. >> I'm going back to looking for cheap. I wanted to make sure I had the right day.
I know it was right by the >> local summer starts October 1st. The lights go back to blinging. >> It's all good. >> Thank you everybody. We're going to head into close session now. >> All right. So, we are authorizing executive close in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings
act. All >> in favor.