Al United States of America and the rep for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liy and justice for all roll call Mr shf Mr Franco I'm here and Mr Cabrera I am here before we go on any further I going to do a S sound check Nikki how we doing we're doing good all right good news compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 Public Law 1975 the notice requirements have been satisfied as to the time place and date of holding said meeting by posting notice on the Bolton board here in burrow Hall and by mailing and emailing same to the heral of k m County on October 4th 2023 and the Press of Atlantic City on December 13th 2023 in the event of an emergency your emergency exit is the door that you came in our uh back left your back right our front right or your front left just by the American flag uh couple quick announcements this me meeting is being shown live today here on the Burrow's Facebook page and also the Burrow's YouTube channel um if in the event uh you're watching this meeting and you would like to ask a question uh to the the governing body or make a public statement you're going to dial the access code 888 363 4734 and when prompted you're going to enter the access code 969 90205 by the pound or the hashtag in the event you watch the recorded version of this meeting and you have questions or you would like to uh make a statement you're more than welcome to contact our clerk clerk Atwood crest.org or phone her at 69729 840 U Madam clerk we have one ordinance on the agenda for this evening yes sir it is ordinance 1421 for adoption regarding construction fees motion that ordinance 1421 be placed on second reading and final Passage by title only second act it has been moved in second that ordinance number 1421 be placed on second and final reading by title only roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes ordinance 1421 reads as follows an ordinance of the buau of Wildwood Crest amending and supplementing the code of the burrow of Wildwood Crest article one uniform construction code of chapter 22 amending fees for permits motion to public hearing now be held on ordinance number 14 2 one second been moved in second that a public hearing when ordinance number 1421 now be held roll call Mr Chef yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes floor is open for anyone here in the audience on ordinance number 1421 anybody anybody on the conference line have any public comments on ordinance number 1421 hearing none motion at a public hearing on ordinance number 1421 now be closed motion I need a second sir second I mean has been moved in second that a public hearing on ordance number 1421 now be closed roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes motion that ordance number 1421 be passed on second and final reading and advertised according to law I will second it this time it has been moved in second that ordinance number 1421 be passed on second and final reading and advertised according to all roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next we have the resolutions the first is authorizing a Professional Services contract with Michael a zeniac of scarin skinsky Hollenbeck as special counsel for Co related matters for calendar year 2024 I'll motion that I will second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Cabo yes next is establishing the Sal iies for the 2024 stien agreements motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes uh Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing advertisement of a notice to biders for landscaping services motion second is been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr ship yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing advertisement of a notice to biders for portable toilets motion second it's been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing participation in the ACM jef safety incentive program for 2024 motion a second it's been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Cabrera yes next is authorizing burrow engineer work order for engineering costs for the fiscal year 2024 NJ doot Municipal Aid reconstruction of Toledo Avenue at the not to exceed sum of 130,000 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes NEX is authorizing burrow engineer work order for fiscal year 2023 NJ DCA small cities program Municipal Building bathroom Renovations at the not to exceed sum of 60,000 no second it has been moved and seconded that the forging resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing Award of emergency contract to xylm Water Solutions USA for a new pump motor on Topeka Avenue in accordance with njsa 4A colon 11-6 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Cabrera yes next is authorizing the appointment of three class one police officers motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is supporting the authorization of the fiscal year 2024 local Recreation Improvement Grant application funded by the New Jersey Department of Community Affairs motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing special events permit to jld event management and timing LLC and co-sponsoring the official Wildwood Crest run event taking place on October 5th 2024 and granting a non-exclusive limited license to use service marks I'll motion that second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes NEX is authorizing an emergency temporary budget for 2024 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes next is authorizing the appointment of Stephanie Alicia to fill a vacancy as a member of the Wildwood Crest tourism commission commencing immediately and expiring December 31st 2025 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the foro resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco St and Mr cabero yes next is authorizing expenditure to purchase Beach boxes for the beach under State contract motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr CA yes lastly is authorizing Award of Professional Services contract to cers engineering and design for services in conjunction with a preliminary traffic and pedestrian evaluation various streets and locations per task one at the not to exceed sum of $2,000 motion second it has been moved and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr cabera yes motion that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid second it is been moved and seconded that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes motion that all reports received from the court administrator Chief Financial Officer tax collector chief of police supervisor for the recreation department construction official emergency services coordinator for the EMS West Volunteer Fire Company for the month ending December 31st 2023 be accepted as presented second it has been moved and seconded that all reports received from the court administrator Chief Financial Officer tax collector chief of police supervisor for the recreation department construction official emergency servic is coordinator for the EMS of the Wildwood Crest Volunteer Fire Company chief for the month ending December 31st 2023 be accepted as presented roll call Mr shf yes Mr Franco yes Mr Caba yes motion that all minutes from the commission's meeting dated December 20th 2023 and January 2nd 2024 be approved as present second it has been moved and seconded that all minutes from the commission meetings dated December 20th 23 and January 2nd 2024 be approved as presented roll call Mr Schiff yes Mr Franco yes and Mr Caba yes thanks okay that brings us to correspondents uh do we have our fine young gentleman with us here this evening all right Officer Logan Burke officer Chris Johnson and officer Robert Ferguson it's time for your initiation I don't think soor guys look good thank you sir you look scared you're G be just fine uh so real quick quick I just like to say a few things um first of all thank you all for coming this is a very good day for uh Wildwood Crest and the Wildwood Crest Police Department we got three outstanding young men uh they just graduated the academy on January 12th they did an amazing job um I do have have to recognize officer Ferguson uh he did uh receive the PT award uh scored 100% on the PT test which um is pretty amazing so um but all three of them did a fantastic job we are so happy to have these outstanding young men these local young men uh they're going to do a great job for us and we're really excited to see what they can do and um uh have them out there for for you guys uh for our public for the citizens and visitors of w Crest so it's a good day I'd like to thank governing body um mayor CA uh commissioner Franco and commissioner shiff um really and also uh administrator man uh it's really good day and um without further Ado commissioner shisen is swear in our new officers Commissioners something may come stand with us'll do you're all part of the family here all good Fus doing Ferguson first all right so I'll do this easy when I say state your name you'll state your name and I'll do it slow so you got all the words all right I right hand up there you go St your name I Robert Ferguson do Solly swear always always swear that I will Faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and partially and justly perform and justly perform all the duties of the office of police officer all the duties of the justice Office of police officer police officer sorry I gave you too many words um according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability and I do solemnly swear and I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and that I will bear true faith and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same in allegiance to the same and to the governments established and to the governments established in the united states in the United States and in the state and in the state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people to helping God to helping God [Applause] congratulations that's it unless he wants to do it again Christopher Mom and Dad sir I remember can you also when you can you turn a little bit so that your faing that way I'm sorry just don't get my bald spot all right I state your name I Christopher Johnson do solemly swear you solemly swear that I will Faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and just and justly perform impartially and justly perform all the duties of the office of police officer all the duties of Officer of police officer according to the best of my ability sorry according to the best of my ability and I do solemly swear and I do solemly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I'll support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and that I will bear true faith and I'll bear true faith and allegiance to the same and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments establish the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under under the authority of the people so help me God so help me God congratulations sir and we have one more that was that was that better where is she how do you want me to stand I'm going to stand right there you're fine just the way you are commissioner you're fantastic you're good you're perfect congratulations than I st your name I lenberg do solemnly swear do solemly swear that I will Faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and justly perform and partially and justly perform all the duties of the office of police officer all the duties of the office of police officer according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability and I do solemnly swear and I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and the constitution of the state of New Jersey and that I will bear true faith and that I will bear true faith and Alliance to the same and Alliance to the same and to the governments established and to the governments established in the united states in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people so help me God help me go [Applause] congratulations um at this time why take some pictures families congratulations welcome to the family guys and have your stand up here family want to come up and get some pictures was that better Denise you're fantastic thank you got me scared okay one at a time yeah one at a time real quick am you I'm very used to this trust me [Music] [Music] I'll go over there come come yeah I'm coming I love you too thank you so much of do you want you guys get yep you might have to uh here tight you get in the back you guys how's that y you need the other one moved you're the tall one in the middle take your off doesn't m short here we are better be good Cole photographer than listen to got signing for thank you yeah we'll give everybody a couple minutes if anybody wants to leave the meeting by all means you don't have to stay for the rest of the fun we're not offended we're not offed I should probably move that in's public com I move my it's fine we don't need to move it cozy it's cozy like this table you're welcome congratulations you guys you good you need another one need it I just coughing now finally and I'm sleeping through the night yeah finally but nowood nuts I've never seen like okay and this meeting is adjourned it you said it all in favor it must be don't tease me Don so you got minut yep to land on this plane all right okay moving right along uh brings us to the uh First Responders report we'll start with uh Chief lyd all right again government body I'd like to thank you those are three outstanding young men and they really are going to do uh a great job for us so I appreciate your support with that okay so for the month of December uh we responded to 1,42 calls for service uh we did conducted 142 criminal investigations 223 service calls including alarm citizen assists fires medical assists School related activities and utility complaints we conducted 105 motor vehicle stops with 14 traffic summons issued uh 93 warnings there were two motor vehicle accidents we did 307 hours or 307 property checks 225 hours of training and we had eight arrests uh eight adult uh two 2dw and that is my report unless the governing body has any questions with the public thank you Chief thanks Chief all right that brings us to Mr Neil fire seat this is Mike's debut my first debut everybody okay pretty simple uh this is the yearr report for fire prevention buau we had um we conducted U 3137 nonl ha inspections we did uh 998 uh reinspection for a total of 3337 inspections for n life fers on the life hazards we did 62 we did uh 76 reinspection we built out 33,00 $17 we collected $18,000 we only get 8 uh 65% back which is would be 21, 51955 on our nonl Hazard building we built out one 1, $64,500 we waved fees for properties that would be uh changed over from not renting to own occupied and those fees were $6,300 $60 cents 66360 we uh issued 64 p uh permits fees collected were $3,240 our smoke shirts were $5,440 penalties issued were 45 for a total of 9,000 989 for a total revenue of 1, $183,300 2023 our calls for service of 1,223 and for December's uh runs we had 72 calls for service 32 of them were the transports 15 were uh fire standbys Public Safety assist uh we did seven and patient refusal were 17 and we're currently members attending the Asim which is active shooter incident management course uh as well and we have placed our uh 2024 F250 4x4 in the service uh as emergency responses as the first responder vehicle uh for uh Mutual AIDS fire ground rehabs right rescue task force assignments through the county as well as mcis most casense so that's all I report if anyone has any questions comments concerns you don't criticize too good all right thank you all thank you Mr KS all right first round of public comments we'll start with anybody here in the audience just need you to come up to the podium and give your name over okay good evening I name Steve tarnaski I have a property at 541 Lake Road and I've been coming to these off and on probably for 18 months now and I have two questions regarding the flooding back on Lake Road first question I'm aware that the sewer project kind of was bided out and and is progressing just for the Improvement to the sewer system I just wanted to kind of understand an update to that part of the project for the first I guess four end of sewers or putting new gates in at the end of the block for the discharge yeah so it's the bid specifications are under under design we're actually going to talk briefly about that under old business okay um couple things we need to work through but to your point uh yeah there is uh uh valves all along all of the ends that are going to be installed for for for each one of them I think there's a total of 17 to 17 total I was under the impression the first four we're going to get done in the fall this past fall and then you know progress as that happens well so you have to so so everything flows get gravity Fed so if we're going to if we're going to go out to bid right it's better to have one contractor to do the entire job as opposed to having one contractor do four and then possibly another one to 113 and then we have the bulkheads too that's all a part of the the big the bigger picture as well right so just just from a broad time scheme when do we think that's actually going to happen I would so so the estimation I would say would be so first there's a lead time on these Valves and I'll get into some of that now so the valves just so in your in your area uh the size of the piping air is 36 in which is really really big so let's up a lot of water into the street so so that so that will uh also be that will we diverted down to 24 in val to a 24in valve and piping that goes with that uh and then everything south of you uh will also get the same 24 would also get this is all conceptual I'm talking right trying to standardize it I so so so 24 so so 24 in so that said um we have that specification we have some funding uh concerns that we need to discuss internally and then we also have to finish the bid specifications which also ties into the bu heads cuz originally the bulkheads um we didn't think that they were leaking through the actual bulkhead itself so the bulkheads are not waterproof so we're going to at the same time raise those bulkheads up to eight feet conceptually I guess I followed that too yeah yes so so the answer question I I would project um and and in parallel with all the what I just said uh we have a Grant application in uh for potentially adding uh least two pump stations one or two pump stations and and that if if we are award that money that will change the design uh of that whole project so and that decision I'm I'm advised would be sometime before the summer right in the summer in the summer Jun so so the spe so the specification is going to continue to be developed um where I would estimate to be going up the bid at some point during the summer once we have the information about the grant um if we don't get it then we know what we need to do if we get it then we know what we need to to do that said I would say just start seeing Pro uh there's some permitting that has to go along go along with that project and ballpark I would say once funding is in place it's going to start sometime in the fall okay thank you y u my second question is regard to the property across the street for me 541 L Ro they just and and I sent pictures to commissioner Franco just a catastrophic event this past week or two weeks ago that I mean the water was coming in in in buckets and there's ordinances now I I I forwarded the ordinance at 17.5 now there's a new ordinance at 17.7 that talks about the duty to maintain and repair your bulkheads I just want to understand what's being done to take care of this it's it's a catastrophic problem and it's routine at this point floods two blocks in every direction impacts people's houses impacts people's cars impacts the infrastructure that we're talking about right now whether it be sewers or water lines I know Wildwood water was out along cresy across the street because those water mains are rotting for those people and I'm sure if it's on their side of the water main they're going to pay for it so this is just just unbearable at this point so to your point so the ordinance is in place as you said the uh so the municipality uh will need to document uh timestamp if you will the actual flooding coming over it and then that will be used uh in the in in a citation to the particular property owner and then the property owner will eventually wind up in court and to to to having to make the to so Joe has all that okay so Joe has the videos the Tim stamp I asked him to send out the police or the engineer to Tim stamp all that I mean you got to go out and waiters I understand there's a little hesitation there yes but it's fully documented so I I will say to you so I would say that because the because of the sensitivity now of the matter of it potentially moving in that direction with with the burough taking an actual position I'm going to you know prob we not be able we're not going to be able to share too much of the details but just know that that is it is being the being worked on from our okay appreciate it thank you than anybody else public comments and be on the conference line have any public comments hearing n we're going to move right to the administrator's report thank you sir good evening everyone Beach and bump outs um Rambler and North we're now moving on to our last phase the bid opening for this Final Phase of beach entranceway improvements will take place on um January 31st 2024 this portion of the project will address the beach ends north of Ramer and include foot showers benches and widened entrance ways um all this is previously permitted and we're starting to move on that and that bid will be open um on the 31st the crest Arts Pavilion Fred Shone has um commenced Construction c as you can see right now um everything has been demolished we have top soil being put in and this exterior Improvement project is mostly funded by the K County Open Spaces and is expected to be completed by miday two EV fast Chargers are incorporated into Bikeway and Coastal enhancements for this project there actually will be four uh heads on the two charging stations so there'll be a total of four spots for fast charging which is roughly 20 minute charge Herford Inlet to K May Inlet Beach and dune construction we've recently met with the Army Corps uh project manager and our local Partners at the njd D Coastal Engineering um to discuss the timeline for this project it is anticipated that this project will in fact take place in 2025 the burrow has no cost share for this Coastal storm protection project and we are now at a point where we must start to work on um easements for the borrow area and the Dune construction area our solicitor will be working closely with the DP to um get those easements filed New Jersey Avenue I spoke to Bob Church the County engineer uh yesterday he informed me that he did receive the requested funding which is federal funding and state funding for this roadway project and he'll be reaching out to set up a meeting with us uh sometime next week to start planning for our infrastructure improvements which will need to take place prior to the downsizing um and road diet for New Jersey Avenue in 2025 to 2026 sunset Lakes uh State Channel dredging mobile dredging has commenced dredging work in the state's channels throughout the Wildwoods uh all indications are that work is moving along well the dredge is currently one of the dredges is currently mobilized in the most northern Port uh portion of the channel in North Wildwood you'll see it as you enter into North Wildwood on the right hand side and they are progressing well cfer applications LX Consulting is currently working on 10 individual permits for the upad upcoming bulkhead project um that Don and Mr tarnaski we're just speaking of he is also working with Neil yosin on our ADR which is alternate dispute resolution on a different matter Bayside Pump Station flood mitigation project we have made application for $12 million to FEMA um for flood mitigation assistance which is a brick program this project if funded would include two pump stations and all the necessary piping um that would be involved Washington Avenue flood mitigation project we did apply for a FEMA Grant to bre uh FMA Grant to FEMA for this this area was previously studed by Mark's office and recommendations from that study made for the basis of mitigation efforts incorporated into this application and that will also involve a pump Federal uh fiscal year 2023 small cities Grant we have authorized our engineer now to proceed with his uh design and bidding of the renovations of the bathroom here in the municipal building as previously reported our small cities application was approved in the amount of $342,000 roughly Kate May County local Road Safety plan it's called an lsrp it um in cooperation with the South Jersey Transportation Planning organization the county is coordinating with local municipalities to identify and prioritize strategies and actions to reduce fatal and serious injury crashes on our County and local roadways I've been serving on the steering committee and have attended all the meetings um to provide input on behalf of the burrow which has had two fatal serious crashes from 2017 to 2020 and just another um unfortunate incident in the past few years we currently develop um we are currently working on developing a 5-year plan with a goal to significantly reduce the number of deaths or injuries by 2050 and it is anticipated that our goal would be to reduce that by 50% I sent out a survey um that the bureau's public safety officials should review and complete and that would be for our streets and hotpots that we have in our own town our next meeting is scheduled for March and I'll keep you up to to date on this initiative as we move along I have information on and if anybody needs it that's all thank you g b any questions for our administrator K could you just give regards to the dredging part I love the fact that the w w and North W are getting their project done um but I'd like to see if if maybe you can give a shout to Scot douas sure yeah I I do contact him every three weeks roughly um our project face two is is supposed to be right now still in um the acquisition phase for purchasing an area to um establish a confined disposal facility a CDF um and though I will try to get an update on that although I haven't really gotten a whole lot of information just that they're still in that process but I will ask ask for an update we can wake them up from Winter Slumber absolutely no problem I'll do that tomorrow than you public any questions for administrator conference line anybody all right we're going to move right to the engineers report thank you mayor the contractor for the Reconstruction of Orchid Road is now scheduled to start the week of January 29th which is next week we were hopeful that he would have started two weeks ago but the weather hasn't been conducive so he will start on Monday and proceed through the spring and early summer to finish that project the contractor for the beach Patrol headquarters renovation has remobilized to the site and continues to work on the roof structure of siding we're on track the contractor for the crest Arts Pavilion has started work uh the week of January 15th with demolition order materials Etc and that project is proceeding on schedule uh next one as Cony had mentioned the bid opening for the Beach Street and Public Access improvements phase three project that bid opening is scheduled for January 31st at 10: a.m. bearing any unforeseen issues that project should be completed in time for the summer um as previously mentioned the Bayside bulkhead replacement flood mitigation project is now 70% complete we're waiting for permits and we revise the burrow of the additional cost uh related to the valving improvements north of Aster so you have decisions to make in terms of funding but we're continuing to proceed with the design uh lastly we did submit uh the Burrow's flood mitigation resiliency funding request to Congressman van Drew's office on December 28th so that is in the congressman's hopper uh to uh help push on the Burrow's behalf to fund two storm Sil pump stations Associated piping uh on the Bayside that's about a $12 million project so we're putting every poker and the fire to help the burrow get money to offset costs over there and that's my report thank you g Bon any questions for Mr deasio thanks Mark oh good mark thank you public any questions for markk station be located so that's a really good question um they are shown conceptually as circles in strategic spots but the details of where they would be located would be subject to the commissioner's final selection and comments would they be kind of the same ones that are R Grand over there like just in a design smaller no so so it so if there's real estate right then there'll be a pump house and it'll look a certain way if there's not real estate it could be a subsurface Pump Station in the street end with a location for the Mechanicals and power to be located somewhere up so there's a lot of moving pieces to that decision that they would make hopefully I'm in a position to professionally annoy them to make that decision when they get 12 million that's really yeah thank you okay anybody else questions for Mr deasio conference line anybody okay hearing none we're going to go to uh we have another round of public comments before we move into discussion item anybody public comments okay uh first thing under new business the flood plane ordinance Madam clerk correct me from wrong we have the we had some revisions and and the state uh reviewed it uh it's now ready for uh potential Inu at one of our upcoming meetings correct and I guess the question is is does anybody have any questions as we work through this if not then are we ready to uh introduce this at at perhaps the next meeting I would be fine with that mayor good February 7th all right February 7th we'll do an introduction for that this is to be in compliance with the state requirements all right uh planning board fees uh Trish has circulated a draft of the ordinance uh basically the fees haven't been uh changed since I think it was like 2007 right roughly 17 years ago so there's some recommendations from the planning board correct uh to increase the fees if everybody's okay with that fee structure uh we would possibly do that at the next meeting as well I I look at it I have no issues no issues either thank you good good we good all right February 7th building up to be a big meeting all right under old business uh concession agreement that was on hold uh traffic home coming we had the uh phase one introduced uh for this evening uh for the engineer Back Beach excavations on hold pending the Army Corps dragging I think we talked about under the administrator's report uh New Jersey Avenue infrastructure pre- County uh we heard in administrator's report that the county is moving forward uh 20525 to 2026 the burrow has infrastructure worked it needs to do before the county start so that is a subject for a future Capital project disc discussion uh Public Works roof we are waiting for Zar engineering to give us uh so there's three roofs Public Works roof the flat roof at the pool and the crest Pier roof um under a state Cooperative purchasing agreement uh we're just trying to figure out uh so the Public Works actually is is falling down to a lesser priority as opposed to the pool roof and the crest Pier roof that are actively taking on water so uh there's some funding issues that we would need to address uh there as well uh Bas side outfalls capacity bulhe replacement so we touched on that uh earlier so just so I could have some ongoing Dialogue on this um we talked about the the piping issue on the uh on the Northern end of of this project um 36 in 36 inch piping is going to be diverted down to to the 24 in um so there's uh so so if we did all 17 of those uh of of the valves and the and the actual piping um we're going to run short on dollars to do the bulkheads as well so in an internal Capital discussion and project I think uh Connie had summarized it along with Francine in in an email just to kind of put it out there is that we're going to need some additional funding the current project has about $2.5 million of funding in place we're going to need more money uh to do the entire project and as I indicated earlier um the the valves will will have the biggest impact on reducing the flooding in these areas the the bulkheads are also in some areas leaking through and they're outdated and there's like three layers of bulkheads that need to be replaced as well I'm I'm of the position that if we're going to go out to bid we need to do the entire project and not put have contractors different contractors potentially tripping every each other because this is this is a large scale very detailed project um and at the same time we have we have this uh Grant which we're advised that we have a good chance of getting that the best way to reduce the flooding is per our engineering I don't mean to put words in in your mouth Mark but is these Palm stations will actually be is the best way to go about reducing the flooding and the dressing in these area so that decision will be made in in July um if we don't get the grant then then it's still then we're still looking at vals and bulkheads which requires more more money and uh internally we discuss waiting till after we adopt the budget before we introduced the funding for for for that uh for that project to go out to bid in the summertime and then be able to start in the fall correct me if I'm wrong and just to add to part of the component of that project is taking the street ends from say like Lake Road to the bulkhead or park to the bulkhead and those roads typically  towards the bulkhead we're going to be reconstructing those roadways to raise them so if you're a property owner on that corner after we get done coordinating with you and raising those roads to the maximum extent possible we're hopeful that that is another technique that would allow people to maybe get out of their houses um properly so I can't I'm not guaranteeing the flooding wouldn't be there but it's going to help so if we can get the roads up anywhere from six inches to a foot and a half that'll be another redundant resilient measure uh to help mitigate the inconvenience okay go anybody I know this is it's a lot to digest but anybody have any comments on the plan potential plan any any revisions any suggestions any comment whatever I just we just we just need to get this thing to the Finish Line well that's the goal but I think our community has to understand that with all this work being done we're still going to get water coming in some way or another so the I love the optimism I want to get it done I think the valves are extremely important uh to be put in uh whatever we decide to okay I'm just hoping that we get some sort of relief from F but um I'm staying optimistic on that so hopefully we can get that thank you this time we added a layer to that by going to the um the congressman and asking for their assistance as well so hopefully have a better shot this time okay uh all right Washington C VI I believe uh we have that application in as well we're just waiting to hear back uh from Mr Roa on that okay I think that covers on anything on your own business Commissioners do you have anything I just want to thank uh the Commissioners for allowing us to swear and three new officers and going to constantly try to make ourselves better and it's a big help you know it helps achieve and we in public works a great job the flooding and everything else to and the saling I appreciate that helped out the school a lot with the porking lot well good mayor I'm fine good uh anything I have is February 3rd 10:30 at the crest Arts Pavilion we have our champions of Wellness event uh going there so if you're looking for some lunch and and and recognize some of the folks that are are here in Wild Crest for their their Wellness efforts come on out uh okay so I believe we have a closed session on the agenda for this evening correct so we are authorizing executive closed session in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act specifically njsa 10 412b with regard to one issued contract negotiations for the Ia can I get a motion motion it been and seconded that the forgoing resolution be adopted roll call Mr shiff yes Mr Franco yes Mr C yes all right we're going to take a uh three minute recess before we move into close session thank you everybody for coming