To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. [Music] Roll call. Mr. Chef, I am here. Mr. Franco, here.
Mr. Cabera, I am here. In compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 public law 1975 the notice requirements have been satisfied as to the time place and date of holding said meeting by posting notice on the bulletin board here in
Burough Hall and by emailing the same to the Herald of Kate May County and the press of Atlantic City on October 15th 2024. In the event of an emergency, your emergency exit is the door you came in, our front left, your back right, or the door just by the American flag. Uh this
being this meeting is being uh shown live here today on the Burough's YouTube and Facebook channel. Just want to do a quick sound check. We're good to go, Brian. All right. Uh if you're watching this meeting live and you want to make a public comment, you're going to enter the access code uh the dial uh dial in
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that said, uh Madame Clerk, I believe we have two ordinances on for today. Yes. The first is ordinance 1462 regarding peace and good order. Motion that ordinance number 1462 be placed on second reading and final passage by title only. Second. Moved and seconded that ordinance number
1462 be placed on second and final reading by title only. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Ordinance 1462 reads as follows. An ordinance of the Burrow of Wildwood Crest repealing article 1 public conduct section 48-12
through section 48-12.4 of chapter 48 peace and good order. Motion that a public hearing now be held under ordinance number 1462. Second. It is moved and second that a public hearing on ordinance number 1462 now be held. Roll call. Mr. Shef. Yes.
Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Floor is open for public comment on ordinance number 1462, peace and good order. Mr. Mr. What how is it written? Is it words? We're talking about peace and
good order. Is that is that what that is? Uh no. I think that's just the short title of the of the ordinance. It's basically It's basically conduct. It's basically conduct. Okay. It's basically bad language and all the
things. No, I'm just going this this is um when when the New Jersey state legislature uh decriminalized marijuana and passed the cannabis bill, they slipped in a couple other uh things in there. One of which was they took away the criminal
penalties for underage consumption of alcohol in public. They made it just a warning. The other thing they did was repeal the statute that allowed municipalities to prohibit consumption of alcohol on private property. Um, so that's what we're repealing here is our
ordinance which was based on that that state statute which has now been eliminated. And the reason is is because people are looking at our ordinance and saying, "Hey, why don't you guys enforce this? This is here." So to eliminate that confusion, we're just cleaning up
the code to make it uh compatible with the state statutes. Good. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Anybody on the conference line? Public comment ordinance number 1462. Okay. Hearing none. Motion that a public hearing on
ordinance number 1462 now be closed. Second. It has been moved and second that the public hearing on ordinance number 1462 now be closed. Roll call. Mr. Schiff, yes. Mr. Franco, yes. Mr. Cabrera, yes. Motion that ordinance number 1462 be passed on second and final reading and
advertised according to law. Second. It has been moved and second that ordinance number 1462 be passed on second and final reading and advertised according to law. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Next, we have ordinance 1463 and it is a
bond ordinance for land acquisition. Motion that ordinance number 1463 be placed on second reading and final passage by title only. Second. Been moved and second that ordinance number 1463 be placed on second and final reading by title only. Roll call. Mr. Shiff.
Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Ordinance 1463 reads as follows. a bond ordinance providing for the acquisition of lands 2011 West Pittsburgh Avenue in and by the burrow of Wildwood Crest in the county of Kate May, New Jersey,
appropriating 775,000 therefore and authorizing the issuance of 738,000 bonds or notes of the burrow for financing such appropriation. Motion that a public hearing now be held on ordinance number 1463.
Second. It has been moved and seconded that public hearing on ordinance number 1463 now be held. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. It's open public comment ordinance number 1463. Start with anybody here in the room. We just need your name.
Morning all. David Thompson uh 8801 Atlanta. Um what is the um purpose or for the acquisition? What will we be doing with it? Uh so the act the purchase of this is the is the lot that's uh for the house that's just behind the municipal pool.
Uh there is one uh one parcel there that creates uh an oddshaped lot. So the burrow would be acquiring that lot. In addition to that we'll be selling the one that's on Crocus in New Jersey. So we're going to sell one and buy one. All right. So you're not going to keep
the Crocus for the New Jersey Avenue when that gets done for parking. Yeah. So the plan uh the Taylor design group their parking schematic has shown that uh with the the current lots that we have on Wisteria road uh just south of the Brandon's pay house would be
sufficient and when the new uh road diet happens on New Jersey Avenue um there will be additional parking spaces in addition to what we already have now. And also will clean up the uh uh I guess it'll it'll clearly outline
the parking spaces along New Jersey Avenue because right now people don't pull up to the curb or they park in the middle of it and other cars can't get in front of it or behind it. So when they have a that parking scheme gets laid out, uh we'll actually gain more parking on New Jersey Avenue with addition of the municipal lot if in fact it's
needed. All right. So the the new lot you'll be purchasing is just to square off the property. Correct. With no additional plans for down there as of yet? Nope. Okay. Okay. Any other public comments? Ordinance
number 1463. All right. We'll go with anybody on the conference line. Hearing none. Motion that a public hearing on ordinance number 1463 now be closed. Second. It has been moved and second that the public hearing on ordinance number 1463
now be closed. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Motion that ordinance number 1463 be passed on second and final reading advertised according to law. Second. It has been moved and second that ordinance number 1463 be passed on second and
final reading and advertised according to law. Roll call. Mr. Shef. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Next we have the resolutions. The first is approving a settlement agreement with a plaintiff in litigation known as Rotimi OO Esquire
uh OBO African-American Data and Research Institute and Baffy Oafimi V. Burough Crest GRC complaint number 2022-197. I'll motion second. It's been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff,
yes. Mr. Franco, yes. Mr. Cabrera, yes. Next is authorizing abatement of fee to big-time vending for loss of revenues in the amount of 3,000 resulting from loss of concession areas in 2024 and 2025. Motion second.
It's been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. Next is authorizing the issuance of not exceeding 12 million bond anticipation notes of the Burrow of Wildwood Crest in the county of Cape May, New Jersey.
Motion. Second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Next is cancelling erroneous 2025 sewer rents in the amount of $124 and refunding payments in the amount of
$62.16 for property located at 117 East Syracuse Avenue. A motion. Second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. Next is authorizing burrow engineer work
order for Sunset Lake Park survey tasks 1 through three at the not to exceed sum of 7500. Motion second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera.
Yes. Next is authorizing a master license agreement with Crown Castle Fiber LLC for the placement of wireless communication facilities in the public rights of way. Motion second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll
call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. Next is authorizing resolution number 25-168 to be rescended in totality. Motion second. Did you want to Yes. Actually, I do have a question
about that one. That one is for Centennial Park, right? Correct. Yes. So, I I received a quote from Fred Traone back in I guess it was May, I think. No, I'm sorry, June of something
in the upwards of almost $300,000. Is that something that we're going to be considering for that park alone or are we doing that for all the parks? for the Ballards. The Ballards are for uh basically for the ramming situation that we're
considering, but right now uh we're looking at Centennial Park because that's probably our main thing theme. Uh I know that there are some other situations and issues that we need to discuss. So, right now we're just we had that on hold. Would you mind if I put that under old
business? Sure. We can revisit that. No, that's good. When I saw that number, I thought that was extremely high. So hopefully Well, there's also grants out there that we haven't really gotten into yet because we're looking at the theme. We're also looking at the situations that we want to try to achieve. Uh I
know that there's uh there is grant money out there. We just haven't looked through it all yet. And that would include the other parks, too. We're not just looking at Centennial. How many total parks? Six.
Look, go ahead. I was just trying to count. Yeah, I was counting parks. Six off top of my head. Yeah, but it's not what we're looking at right now is where we bring people to if I'm correct on that, right, Captain? Like we're introducing uh if we're
having like the concerts, we're telling people that they're going to perform there. So, we have to protect there. Uh the other parks that are kind of basic uh just our parks, I think we'll look at them later on, but right now we just really want to take care of the ones
that we're bringing uh our citizens to and asking them to form a uh form in that area. So we want to protect that basically along the bike uh path. Yes. anywhere that you're going to provide burrow functions, burrow events, mass gathering areas, that's something
that we really need to look at in terms of how we secure those areas when we have those events. So, that's what we've been looking at and had have had several discussions on through the years. Right. I don't disagree with that. I I was just curious because of the price that I received. I thought that was
pretty high. So, hopefully he could sharpen his pencils and uh figure it out, you know, a little bit lower. See, the problem now is that we just can't put up ballers. They have to be the ramp proof ones that are a little bit more expensive. I think that also included,
and I may be wrong on this, but we were looking at those boulders that we were going to put in there to kind of like landscape it a little bit. I I'm not sure. I I think it's just the Ballard stuff. So So to be safe to assume, just make sure we're all on the same page. The park as it exists right now today
staying this way for 2025. Is that correct? Correct. Okay. So, we have planned uh in our capital budget for this year some upgrades to that park. Um I think that I think that we all had some concerns with respect to
industrializing the look of a beautiful park, Centennial Park. So I think that what our thought was was if we do it uh with some natural landscaping and look at the design because there are some lighting fixtures and this stage of Centennial Park needs some help as well
is to do an upgrade to that park altogether obviously so that it meets the criteria that police department's looking for but also not to lose the natural beauty of our park. So I think that was kind of to summarize where we are. I just want to make sure that we're
all on the same page with that. Um, this project would not be something until until it probably would be somewhere in the spring of 2026 to get done. So, it would have been time for the summer of 2026. And I don't know if the wreck has weighed in. I think they should probably
be hands on if they haven't been. If they want to, I don't know because they have they run all the events there. So, I think they should be uh involved if they want to. Yeah. So, I would suggest putting this under It's under Yep. Okay. Are we good? Good.
Okay. Next is authorizing compliant Oh, I think I need to get a roll call. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. Next is authorizing compliance with the annual audit requirements and directing members of the governing body to execute the group affidavit in accordance therewith.
I'll motion it. Second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Next is cancelling erroneous 2025 sewer rents in the amount of $124 for property located at 103-105
West Aster Road. A motion second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. Next is authorizing refund for Pure Playmates Camp Fee for $500 for 2025.
Motion. Second. It has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Next is authorizing an increase in the bid threshold pursuant to NJSA4A
colon 11-3 C. Motion it second. Has been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabrera. Yes. We are pulling the next one. We are going to the next is authorizing
contracts with certain approved state and national contract vendors for calendar year 2025. I'll motion it. Second. It's been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Lastly is approving a fourth round
affordable housing trust fund spending plan and requesting program and court approval of the spending plan. I'll motion it. I will second. It's been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera? Yes.
Motion that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid. Second. It's been moved and seconded that all bills properly authorized as submitted be paid. Roll call. Mr. Schiff. Yes. Mr. Franco. Yes. Mr. Cabera. Yes. Thanks, Ch. Sure.
Okay. Uh, nothing listed under correspondence. Uh, that brings us to um new business. Um I had asked uh Trish to put um I bank one I bank phase one I bank phase 2 uh on the agenda just to
just to talk it through for a second. Um I bank phase one uh is uh we have uh already awarded the contract. Um there is some additional work that I have met with uh Francine and Mark on site individually to walk through. So there
um if you're familiar with say from the where the kayak launch is where Bayiew Drive uh all the way down to the public works um there's a couple streets before you get to Syracuse that are in bad shape uh in terms of the roadway conditions. Now
there's no sanitary sewer lanes in there, but the roadway and the curbing and the sidewalk is in bad shape. Um uh earlier in the on the agenda, we approved uh some survey work and some work for Mark's office is going to do.
There is a parcel along Bay View Drive that the burrow owns um that probably needs to be better utilized. It's just not in good shape. Um there's I think I think some of those h new houses that are being built there were storing some materials which they've been asked to
move uh off of the burough property. Um, so we would clean up that street but also make some some improvements to the lot that belongs to the burrow in that area. So I just want to make sure that um everybody was fully up to speed in terms of what I bank one is, but the
additional work that I just spoke to would be a change order to that job. Any questions? Not for me. I'm good. Thank you. And mayor, we're going to be providing a proposal within the next day or two for that work with an estimate for your consideration.
Okay. Okay. What's the time on that great figure? Well, the the overall I bank one contract is going to start in September and will be done before next season. So, say June, you know, late May, early June next year.
Thanks. Okay. Uh, I bank phase two. Uh so the paperwork for that just just to go back to I bank phase one for a second. The burrow will receive $2 million for grants towards that project. Um so
that's good news. I bank phase two mark has to start the paperwork so that we can hopefully be awarded Mark correct me if wrong $4 million. Is it up to $4 million? Three three million. So phase one was 2 million in principal forgiveness. You're eligible for three million
for this next round. Okay. So, that paperwork would have to start. Now, we had loosely kicked around Park Boulevard from Cressy down to Jefferson Avenue as our next IBED program. And the reason for that is because we're we're in the
first stage of the bulkhead valve raising of the streets project. But, Park Boulevard itself also has some traffic safety issues, but roadway concerns and sanitary sewer issues. So that would be the next likely transition into a next I bank project. So we want
to give Mark the go ahead to start filing that paperwork and I guess I guess we would need a resolution at some point but I just want to make sure everyone understood that I bank phase 2 needs to start now for next year. Thank you. Our next meeting is the 30th of the month.
Okay. So that so what I'm saying is I bank phase two would be Park Boulevard. Park Boulevard if everybody's agreeable to that. Did those applications just open up though? So as soon as we got past June 30th, all the carnage was Yes. So they opened up the next round. So
what'll end up happening is steps one through three for this. I we're calling it I bank 2. We'll be able to navigate that pretty quickly, probably one to two months, and then it's then the project will get ranked and that's when they're going to come back to you and say we'll
start designing. So you just need to be ready for that if we're going to go all the way down the field. Okay. All right. Everybody good with I bank phase two? All right. All right. Brings us to old business. Uh
first up the box truck ordinance. So I last time we talked about this. So we're waiting for brush maintenance. That's under discussion. Is that not on yours? No. That was a proposed ordinance from uh brush maintenance. Rod, you want to discuss that?
Yeah. Measure is very basic. um our authority is sort of skewed throughout the code on how to handle um brush grass, weeds, debris on private property. Uh so this greatly simplifies it, makes it clear, makes the authority clear and what the ramifications are uh
for properties that are under these conditions. So what it does, it takes our existing section which addresses uh grass, brush, and weeds um and adds a article three to that which encapsulates all of the authority uh and um
regulations pertaining to that area. So, it's just going to really simplify things and clear it up very much. So, I'm certainly recommending this uh to the commissioners for for adoption. So that g just to make sure if I followed the emails basically gives the burrow
code enforcement department the burrow itself the ability to get its money back in terms of for the time spent improving a property on the owner's behalf because it's not up to our code. That that's correct. The authority exists within title 40 of the state
statutes. Uh this clarifies that the burrow can go onto the property, clean the property and then lean the property uh if the invoice is not paid and there's a process in there uh that the you know just you can't charge any amount but it has to be approved by by
the commissioners and then it can become a lean on the property. I think it's a no-brainer. Yeah, that's fine. I think sure you good. Yes. Can we schedule it for intro for July 30 or 30? Yeah. 30th. July 30th. Thanks Ron. Okay. All right. Uh box truck ordinance. So I was what I was
saying. So we had talked about this. I know police department are waiting for them to weigh in on the ordinance so that we can get that also introduced. Uh we did receive uh some correspondence uh on the on the box truck that is uh on New Jersey Avenue being used as a
storage area. Um it has the orange cones around it. Um so I know that that um has been an ongoing issue. So, I guess when we're waiting for the comments, if there's anything that we can do to get that get that moving, um because I know as we as the New Jersey Avenue project,
um as that road gets skinnier and there becomes more traffic on that street because of the business district, uh we may want to, you know, get that going sooner than later. Questions, issues, comments? All right. All right. Uh 250th birthday committee still looking for volunteers. If you're
interested in helping the bureau put together some uh event planning for next year as the country celebrates its 250th birthday, please send an email to uh Trish. Uh municipal app is on hold. Uh historical museum is on hold, although I do have a potential volunteer uh or
somebody that would be interested in going through all the historical artifacts down there and start working on cataloging and cleaning up and just, you know, inventorying all the things that we have. um because we have things stored there but into other areas as well. So trying to get everything
preserved and stored into uh one location and then we can determine where we could put these items on display. Uh traffic calming, I believe we have a we have a grant out there that's we're waiting to hear from. We approved at the last meeting. So more news to come on
that. Uh back beach excavation is u is uh the the emergency areas have have been hit and are holding up well. Um the the water that we've had on our beaches have been clearing up. Now, as of last night's storm, I noticed that there is some more out there. Um there was a
meeting with our environmental consultant and with our engineer Mark uh that talks about how we want to build up the lowlying areas over the wintertime. So, we're going to uh we're we're getting that plan in place now so that um we can naturally build up the
lowlying areas with sand, remove the snow fence um and or the uh the post uh and then take that sand and and help fill out those areas because that'll be a lot cheaper than a couple million dollars project to excavate the entire beach.
Um so that more to come on that judging Mr. Franco, we actually did hear something from the DOT, surprisingly. I'm not sure why, but we did. Um, and they uh did make an offer to uh acquire um a parcel of land.
Uh we're still waiting to hear back if if the person that uh is selling uh accepted the offer. As of right now, he has not, but it's still on the table. So, there was a little bit of an update on that, but um we're still waiting, unfortunately.
Okay. uh Washington C viewful alfalls and capacity. So just to bring everybody up to speed. So the burrow has two uh FEMA applications in one for the west side of uh of the burrow where we're actually
putting in the new bulkheads and the and the new pipes after the summer um for some additional uh road work piping and potentially pump stations. And then the issue uh with the six alpha lines on our
beach um to increase the capacity and eventually get to a pump station so that when the storm water uh rises it will kick on the pump and send the send send it through the six alpha lines it would send it um into one consolidate it to one pipe and then send it out to the
ocean. Um we received u there two separate grants. We received uh some good news yesterday, although we know won't um won't believe it until it happens that so the total award potentially to the burrow could be anywhere from
21 to 22 million if I remember correctly. Um 24 million 24 million. So 26 million 26 29 29 million I what's the number? I feel like it's an off the projects in themselves will
total 29. put in our 25% match. So probably if you're talking about what we're going to get um out of it is probably in the 22. Yeah. So the net effect. So we have a contribution that we have to make and then but to invest nine and get 20 or 21 I think it's it's and it's all going to
be on flood mitigation type projects. So I think it's good news. So fingers crossed. Um those of you from the Army Corps and the state and everybody watching counting on it. We're hoping to get it done. All right. um US Army Corps
and the Dune, there is a uh virtual meeting scheduled for July the 31st. Um and we're just waiting to you know uh for that meeting to see where where all of this uh lies. Uh have not heard anything in terms of uh you know
position or status and so forth. So we'll just talk through and and get brought bring everybody up to speed uh after that meeting. uh burough hall renovations. There was again there was initial walk through uh with our various department heads um and our architect to get the needs of the building uh
understood and then they will begin to start coming up with concept designs and having some some additional meetings. Can I get a the notes on that if someone took them? I I don't know if anybody took any notes for that or minutes for that meeting that was discussed. Sure.
I'm just curious because I I don't know how much that's going to cost. So, I want to stay on top of that one. It's going to be a lot. That's why I want to keep on top of it. Okay. Appreciate it, Frank. Uh yeah, I think uh probably uh Jerry from the architect probably has has his
takeaway notes on that. We can get to them. Thank you. Yep. Okay. Um that wraps any old business. Commissioners Franco and Schiff, do you guys have anything you want to add for any of the items under discussion? Uh, I do just want to point
out something that the we the DCA um uh the LEAP grant for our shared service with Stone Harbor with the construction department uh actually issued us um $125,000 uh this past Monday and that's largely
due to Francine's hard work um and the construction office. So with that money this year, 125,000 will offset uh some costs, some salaries, um update the programs, possibly a new truck and savings of the taxpayers for here in
Stone Harbor, which is um excellent. So congratulations uh Francine and the construction department. So that's my uh my comments on that. 125,000 for this year. Great. Good news. Good job. Uh Commissioner, I'm good right now. Thank you.
You're welcome. All right. Uh, only thing I have is first of all, uh, hope everybody had a great, uh, July 4th. The weather was absolutely beautiful. Uh, the beaches were packed. Um, I actually got a chance to spend some more time down on the down on there and got a
chance to watch the operation of of everybody. Um, beach patrol did a great job. Public works, uh, the beach was impeccable. Uh, the, um, the porter potties, the the twi the two day a week service was great. the the the additional pickups for the trash and
recycling was very well received and I kind of go down on the beach incognito so I don't have to talk about burough business all the time but I actually I've been hearing the the the vacationers and the residents they they had nothing but great things to say so kudos to everybody involved in this
municipality for a great July 4th weekend. Uh go ahead. I think we missed public comments. I will come back to that one. Okay. So, under the commissioner comments, I that's why I was didn't have anything to say there. I agree with you
100%. I think all our departments did a great job. The amount of time and the amount of people that were here were just phenomenal. I mean, it was, I believe, the biggest Fourth of July weekend that we ever had. But it's good to see our departments out there working well. And is that you?
That's my stomach. I thought it was your case. Anyhow, um, and I wanted to comment on the beach patrol. We won the county race. Uh, congratulations to the Wildwood Crest U Beach Patrol for putting a lot of time
in. The building is functioning phenomenally. So, I'm proud of all the stuff that's happening and thank you to all. Okay. All right. Now, I'll open up to anyone for public comment before we head into close session. Hi, my name is Joe. I just wanted to ask
a question. It sounds like are they going to eliminate some of the outfall pipes? And I know it's a complicated thing, so if it's too complicated to answer it now, but it sound like in that Washington thing, are they going to eliminate because you said combining pipes? There's So, right now there's six alpha lines. Uh the idea would be to get to
one alpha line with a pump station to push to water. Similar to what Wildwood has, but maybe a better design. Okay. Do do they know right now where that one might be? Uh so we have to have we have to identify burough uh property to put the pump station on. So we have lots of ocean from property. We don't we
haven't gotten that level of detail yet, but as soon as if we get the good news that we're expecting, then we're going to start, you know, fasttracking. Okay. That actually would be good because I know that I think you had mentioned that uh Mark that some of the other towns had eliminated a good bit of the outfall pipe. So that would be great
to to knock it out to it be a safer feature. And then I wanted to report a positive result of resident suggestions. Residents come here and all the time make suggestions. Uh and sometimes we forget when they're actually taken care of. And some of the decisions that you make either to
financial or otherwise have long-term effects. Well, this weekend or the past couple weekends I noticed uh when my grandson was digging on the beach, he didn't find any cigarette butts. I was here. It was probably five or six years ago when the state had made that decision and it went up to the burrow
and it actually was desending there were it was going back and forth as to whether we were going to follow that or have decisions and it was just by coincidence that see Joyce here and I know she was one of the deciding factors that chose to eliminate it completely. Well, I think the lasting effect and that one gentleman that used to sit over
there has since passed away but the legacy of the decisions you guys make in residents and deaths last forever. So, uh, I'm glad to see, like I said, the beaches are cleaner. And I really don't have any issue with smoke. Whatever people want to do is their own thing. It just was a it was a environmental issue
on the beach. It was just dirty. Little kids would be digging and they get a handful of bucks. So, that is a lasting effect of the positive changes that can be made by suggestions of of residents, financial or otherwise, and then the you guys actually implementing the
suggestions. So, thanks a lot. And we may not even notice the change because these things happen. so gradual, but it just as Luca was digging on the ground, I'm like, you know what? He's not finding anything. He's not like finding a handful out. So, thanks a lot for at least listening to suggestions. I say sometimes they're difficult to
We have a group down there every Sunday that walks the beaches that's all blue. They pick up a lot of that stuff. You probably don't even notice that either, but they're down there. They collect a lot of trash, a lot of plastics, and recycle. So, you find any money? No money. But actually, yesterday just
lost a very expensive brace. Thanks, Jim. David Thompson. Again, I'd like to circle back to that um that land acquisition um after listening to the meeting with $300,000 for the ballards in the park, which I think is crucial
that you get that and do that. We know that. Um, but maybe $9 million for the outfall pipes, the the work you're going to do down at C view you mentioned and up here on New Jersey Avenue, it's a lot of money, especially considering what
you're going to add to that the outfall, like I said, the 9 million. Um, I think spending $800,000 on a property that we really don't have an immediate need or use for, I don't see, but there's pretty big property down there now, the pool property. And I
know it'd be great to square it off, but we didn't try to do that when it was $200,000. Now, property values are through the roof. It's $800,000. I think with all the other money you have to spend, you just mentioned today, there could be better use for that $800,000 than squaring off that property that
unless you have a specific use in mind for that. Like I said, it's pretty big property. Now, I think you could better use that $800,000 elsewhere. So, we mention you heard me say about selling the one rod on Crocus, correct?
Right. So that one would be sold and then the acquisition would be made on the one there. So it's it's like a flip offset. I understand you're going to flip that off. Okay. But that if you still intent on selling that, you can sell that and use that money towards these other projects as well. I know we purchase those lots to
two lots for the parking. I would personally rather see you hold on to that lot and see how the redevelopment goes there. Once New Jersey Avenue is done, that could become a a very vital thriving uh destination area that we had talked about, that
could very well come. It's going to take a few years, no doubt. Okay. So, that parking lot could come into play later or you could sell that lot if you really believe you don't want it or need it. I know we didn't pay anywhere that kind of money for it. So, there's profit there, which is why we bought it knowing we
could do that. However, that money, if you decide to sell it anyway, that money could offset some of the nine million and other money you're going to have to spend. I still think we're just going to buy a lot that's going to sit there and square it off. Now, granted, the property may be available now, but a lot
of money to just square off a lot that we don't have an intent and it's already a big property. You've got plenty of ground behind that building on both sides. I would just ask you to reconsider if it's worth spending that much money on that property. So just so those those lots behind the burrow and
even with the acquisition of this one can be sold and buildable lots right. So yeah there is an investment now but there are two two or three maybe four buildable lots now in that area. So the burrow is basically preserving the open space but also investing in the
opportunity if necessary to sell those additional lots in the future. So you can't do that with the lot on Crocus Avenue, but you can do it with the one down in the burrow. In addition to that, if whoever in the future wants to do an expansion to that pool or create a other recreational areas, they have the space
now to do that. So that was the decision on it and it's an even swap in term pretty much an even swap with the money back fact back to Burough may come out on the positive side after we sell the lot on Crocus. Yeah, I understand that as far as the selling properties of that. Um, but I just if you're going to sell the lots
anyway, you're you're buying this lot at the top of the market. You know, the real estate market right now, okay, it's the top of the market. You're paying top dollar for that lot. So, even that we can sell it down the road, it's going to take a hell of a runup to to make money more more money back on that anyway. So,
I I would just reook at that. I actually revisit that and just see if you think that's a good use of that much money. I mean, we questioned $300,000 Commissioner Franco did about the parking lots, you or the the park with the ballards and all, which I agree. You need those. We need to protect it. You
know, one lawsuit up there, one idiot with a truck runs people over. That's going to be the best money or spend. So, I have no problem with that. But that's 300. This is 800. He's all talked about a lot of money today here that the city's going to be spending. I don't see the the advantage of spending 800 there.
And if you sell them in the future, I mean, it's going to take a pretty sizable runup to even get that money back. So, that's all. Yeah. So, I'm trying to figure where where where's that $9 million number coming from? I'm I'm maybe I missed something in terms of Well, you said the $21 million 25
million and we had a 25% matching grant. Yeah. So, for the for the flood mitigation projects. Okay. I just want to make sure. So, you're right. So, both projects you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned like three or four projects up to New Jersey, the flood mitigation and and all that. Now, of course, that's obviously extremely
important to stop that flooding back there. So, it's going to cost us 9 million. It's going to cost us 9 million. Okay. But this I just I think it could be better spent. Gotcha. Understood. All right. Anybody else? Anybody on the conference line? Any public comment?
Uh before we go, I want to introduce uh Pat Moran to the Burough Wild Crest. Pat, hello. How are you? How you doing? Uh Pat is now our HR uh part-time HR specialist uh to help us uh with Francine and the HR department. So, just wanted to make formally introduce him to
uh to the municipality. Welcome to your first meeting. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Where's your report? Yeah, you have your report. I I actually thought that you were Don's muscle. I just, you know, I was like I was going to say, well, I don't Muscle. I got muscle. All right. Anybody else?
All right. Madame Clerk, do we have a resolution? Yes, we have a resolution authorizing executive/closed in accordance with the provisions of the Open Public Meetings Act, specifically NJSA 104-12B with regard to two items, potential
litigation for two cases, Hemp and Pini. Can I get a motion? Motion. Second. It's been moved and seconded that the foregoing resolution be adopted. Roll call. Mr. Schiff, yes. Mr.