--------- Are we ready, Aaron? Yeah, we're ready. I'm on wherever you are. We're going to call to order city council meeting Tuesday, June 17, 2025 at 6 p.m. Wilson City Council
Chamber. We have a roll call by Miss Wright. Madame President, before I call the role, I just want to say um I think we're going to have some people that are going to speak tonight. Please remember to be respectable in
your language towards whoever you're going to be speaking to, please. Which will be me. Thank you. All comments direct to me. Not really to me, but All right. Mayor Goodman. All right. I'm here. Council President
Hines here. Vice President Cox here. Council member Jones here. Council member Martin here. Council member Ricky Yoshi had an emergency. Uh online we have city manager Sue Boddet.
Attorney Kirsten Belaloo here. City Clerk Latricia Wright. I am here. And for the record, we have public works supervisor Donald Barber on the line as well. And all other staff present. Thank you.
Okay. So, now we'll have the opening prayer and pledge of allegiance to the flag by Mayor Charles Good. Thank you, Madame President. Join me if you will. We come to you today hoping to do the
best that we can and needing your guidance, Lord, in every step of the way. Help us to follow the tenants that you laid out before us so that we can have a more
caring and alltogether better city. We know that many cities are struggling these days and we're no different. And I ask you to be with each member of our staff, all of the people
that perform all of these very necessary services that many of us take for granted. Lord, I just ask you to protect them when they're out in that weather, when they're in dangerous situations. And Lord, I ask you to protect their officers and the fire department in your
name. Amen. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
You still can't see. Oh, something else happened. Okay. So item number one, any additions, deletions, changes, and approvals to of the agenda. Seeing none, I move that we approve the
agenda as presented. You have a We have a motion and a second. The motion carries. You got to go to it does not carry. Okay. Um, so
all in favor say I. I. All oppose say I. No opposed. Four to zero. The motion carries. You don't have to. Item number two, proclamation, National
League of Cities, small cities, month of June, Mayor Charles Goodman. Can everybody else hear this thing? Nope. You got Go ahead. You're supposed to use your That's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hello. Go ahead. Hello. Hi,
Aaron. He turned it up. Jesus Christ. Today we are going to celebrate with a proclamation, National League of Cities, Small Cities
Month for the month of June 2025. Laura Jones. There she is. Would you please stand beside me, Miss Jones? Whereas small cities and towns under 50,000 in population
are the home to millions of Americans and constitutes the vast majority of municipalities across the United States. And whereas
small cities and towns strive to strengthen their communities through the provision of services and programs to improve the quality of life for all citizens.
And whereas the federal government is an essential partner in the success of small cities and towns and must be encouraged to continue to support programs and legislation that strengthens
small communities. And whereas organizations, businesses, and citizens are partners in the success of small cities
and towns and must be encouraged to continue to grow their efforts to make small communities a viable choice for people to live in. And whereas during these challenging
economic times, the need for a renewed intergovernmental partnership to support the essential public services is more important than ever before.
Now we want to need to ensure the safety and the growth of small town America. And whereas the National League of Cities President and the Small Cities Council of the National League of Cities have declared
June 2025 as small cities month. Now therefore, the council of the city of Williston does hereby proclaim June 2025 as small cities month and encourages
President Trump, the Congress, state governments, organizations, and businesses, and all citizens to recognize this event and to work together this month and throughout the year to invest
best in small cities and towns to better the lives of all citizens. by my hand. Mayor of Williston, Florida, Charles Good. [Applause]
Okay. Item number three is going to be public participation. This is your first of two opportunities to address the council. At this time, anyone in the audience can come to the podium and speak for five minutes on any topic other than what is on the agenda.
Please state your name and residence. Just just a reminder, the council does not have to comment. Do we have anyone who would like to speak? I don't want to be inappropriate. If you're going to speak, I need you to
come to the mic. Okay. You can at the end if you're feeling better, you can talk then. Okay. Is there anyone else? Okay, we're going to move to item number
four, consent agenda. Council minutes from June 3rd, 2020 25 will be on the next agenda so we can move forward.
So item number five, updates. Any updates from um the city manager? You said she's online. Yeah, just a minute. Hang on a second. Okay, Sue, go ahead. I'm here. Can everybody hear me? Okay.
Yep. Okay. Just a couple of updates. Uh want to let everybody know that on Friday, June 6th, that Latricia and I attended the North Florida Economic Development Partnership, um MFDP, Board of Directors meeting in Lake City. Uh the key
takeaway was that the CDBG DR grant, which is administered by Florida Commerce by way of HUD, um is going to be opening. There's 300, sorry, $925 million to administer. And like I said, the application cycle is forthcoming. Uh
so secondly uh fiber by central Florida did provide a broadband update according to CFC they uh so far have invested $94 million in their fiber rollout and it's been two years since their first customer was signed on. They have a
potential of 34,000 residential and commercial customers and they currently have 15,000 active customers out of those 34,000. So, in all they've got about 10 full-time employees and over 50 contractors working on that project. Um, second,
want to let you guys know that on Monday, June 9th, Patricia and I attended an FMIT prenewal meeting, uh, where we met with Lindsay Johansson. Uh, she advised um, increases on several of our, um, lines of insurance. For
property insurance, we're looking at either zero um flat increase to a 12% decrease because their property insurance rates have evened out, which is good news. Uh for general liability, they're looking at a 4 to 6% increase.
For cyber liability, about a 5% increase. Auto insurance is going to be between 20 and 25% increase. So that's obviously the one that's the most affected. And then depending on payroll, work comp, uh, insurance rates will be about a 3 to 5% increase as well. So,
um, pretty much around the 3 to 5% for everything except for auto, which again is going to be about 20 to 25%. And then we have a meeting on July 24th with Lindsay 502, sorry, Fiser to review medical insurance rates. And then last but not least, on
Wednesday, last Wednesday, June 11th, Kim and I attended uh the utility 101 fundamentals of the utility training in the city of Newberry. And then we have a second uh training, utility 2011, finance and planning. That's going to be uh next week on June 24th. And that's
all I have for updates. Thank you. Anything from staff, Miss Laura? I wanted to introduce our new code enforcement animal control officer, Christy Lewis. She's sitting over here. Stand up so everybody can see you. Say
her name again. I'm sorry, Laura. She's Christy Lewis. I'm going let her introduce herself. If you'll come to the podium, please. Is that what you said? Thank you. Hi, I'm Christy Lewis. Um, I'm the new animal control code
enforcement officer. I came from Hillsboro County. did 20 years of animal control cruelty investigation there. Did two years of animal control in Levy County and now I'm here. Thank you.
Welcome. Thank you. All right. Go ahead, Donald. Well, Madame President, you guys asked uh at the last meeting um when it was inquired about a parcel that could be put up for sale along Southeast 6th
Street um to reach out to the engineers. Uh Right Pierce has responded and Sue asked me to cover briefly that they are recommending that we keep the parcel to alleviate flooding in the general vicinity. they came out with a flood map that we can email to all the council
through Latricia and he said that if we want to um alleviate some of the issues in the area that piece and that parcel would be valuable to the city and that's the recommendation from uh Wright Pierce. Thank you. Thank you Donald.
Do I have anything from the council? I have a couple of just a briefs. Um, I don't know whether Laura attended today, but I attended a webinar uh put on by Retail Strategies uh about downtown
redevelopment. It was, like I said, a webinar online. Um, Retail Strategies is the company we tried to get the grant through Duke Energy for and I think they sent it to all of us, but I'm not really sure. It was small budget, big impact. How rural downtowns are winning and an
incremental approach. It was really good. They're going to send it out. Um, and I will send it to Latricia in case y'all all want a copy of it. It was really good. I thought uh told how you didn't have to spend a lot of money to incrementally improve your downtown and
get people to come to it. I thought it was an excellent thing. Uh, the other thing I wanted to do as an update, uh, Mr. Germaine Pittz, who was at our last meeting, who wanted to play um ladies softball um at YA.
I've talked with him. I've talked with the YA president, uh Tommy Provo. Uh what they're asking for, what what the softball group is asking for is home games. And they started playing in April. That's when they started
practicing anyway. And their season is over in September. So, what we've offered offered them is three home games. And he says he's been trying to get home games for two years. Um, I said, 'Well, what about we go after three games for the rest of this season? He was very happy with that. So, now
we're trying to get together the waiverss, the insurance, the special event application. Uh, he was here briefly before the meeting. Um, and he has a meeting with Tommy Provo tomorrow. and I have the waiverss and things they're currently using that I'm going
to send to Kirsten and just let her make sure they're sufficient. Our name is not in them. So, we at least I know we at least need to add the city to that waiver uh for not only this group but every group that's playing out there and because it needs to protect us now that we're in the middle of that park as
well. And that's all I have. Thank you. Anyone else? Mr. Mr. Mayor, you have anything for us? Okay. So, item number Yes, sir. I have I like
to defer to Hector to get give us an update on the wireless project. I mean, the fiber project. Can we do it at the second discussion? I mean the second. It's kind of a staff update. It was kind of staff update. I didn't do it. Yeah.
Staff update. Yeah. So, say staff update. Well, good evening everybody, Madam President, vice president, council members, and staff, residents. Uh, I'll take us, this is a 60cond update. Hector Samari with performance services mostly answering any questions that you may
have. With me is Mike McCann. He's our project manager for the project. Just a quick background, March 4th was when the contract was approved. The financing terms were were also approved, submitted by C Coast. Uh there was a an amendment because of the material purchase on
April 22nd and on May 6th the financing was finally approved about six weeks ago. A financing was approved uh where we are today things that have been done. All the material shouldn't say all a great deal of the material has been ordered. It's sitting in the wastewater treatment plant yards guide wires messenger wire tracer wires and so on
and so forth. We've looked at the other remaining material that we have to order. There's no issues no backlog with no delays. Now, the only with with one I'll say with two exceptions really. It's the inhome equipment and we're going to talk to uh Aaron about how to get that try to make sure we expedite
that. It's not a delay yet, but we want to make sure that there aren't any delays with that and also some of the uh headquarter equipment. So, Aaron, we'll be getting with you on that. Um we have the trailer coming for the superintendent which was which will serve as the office. It's sitting in
Ocala now. Drive storage has been identified. and reefer truck is being delivered to the wastewater plant for to house any of the electronics. We have a call tomorrow actually we had the call today on the material updates. Uh working with staff to refine any of the
you know any any of the tweaks that are required with the with the scope. Uh the construction drawings are done with city hall in the area around city hall. Additional construction drawings will be done uh for for each of the phases as we get to them. Uh, and we have been working with staff
and they have been doing one wonderful job on the on the make ready for the poles. I think they've completed about 15 or 20 of them already. We have crews on standby. Two crews on standby ready to get started as soon as uh we get all the equipment that we need and have everything sted.
Uh there are each of those two aerial crews will be doing about a mile a day. So about two miles averaging of aerial per day. We have a third crew on standby getting ready to they'll be focused in on the uh RV resort and they'll be working on the underground there at the RV resort and they'll be working in
tandem as we're doing the aerial they'll be doing the RV resort. Last thing is uh I just I wanted to add that the fact that you have some of your fiber techs. I think they're already available. That's huge because they're going to get to see firsthand all you know what's going going in and they'll
be they'll know the system inside and out like the back of their hands when it comes time for any future upgrade updates or if they're repair whatever may be needed. It's great that you have them in place now because they're going to get to see as we install it how things go. That's it. And happy to
answer any questions. Where are you going to put the superintendent's trailer? At the water treatment, waste water treatment plant. Got it. Okay. I know that's a very silly question, but I just wondered. Isn't that silly?
Thanks, Mr. Mayor, speaking of silly questions, what is fiber insurance? Mike, sir,
what is fiber insurance? I never heard of such a thing. If you're asking me, I'm not ask I'm asking the president because earlier somebody said in listing all the things cyber insurance and I'm just simply asking
what it is when Sue is talking about the insurance rates increasing. Oh, you miss cyber insurance. Cyber cyber cyber cyber cyber okay so it's not for fiber but cyber cyber is from fiber right the
cyber is getting hacked essentially it's it's insurance that protects you if you get hacked or the city gets hacked not you but the city or you if it's your city laptop madam president if I may just briefly
it's not related to fiber directly related to other operations of the city. I over here when people speak quietly I cannot hear the difference between cyber and fiber. Thank you.
So I have a question. Yes. So you said we're going to have two crews eventually three. You're going to have one crew out there at the um RV park. The other crews are going to be running lines for Yes, the aerial aerial lines. Yes. Yes,
sir. Sir, if you will step to the microphone for us. Thank you. My name is Mike McCann, project manager. Um, so the the system starts here at the city hall and it'll extend out. It'll go
out and circulate through the the whole uh city and it'll go past the RV park uh actually fairly quickly or that'll be one of the earlier uh pieces and that'll we'll tie that in.
the full installation will take quite a while, but as we get areas done, so the you know the area near here will be done relatively quickly and as soon as we get light on it, we'll be able to start
tying in customers in those areas. So as we go, we'll be uh enabling the fiber to each of the make it available to each of the houses if they sign up. Thank you. I know we do have a
lot of people excited for it. So, that's what I was tell Aaron and I were talking about. So, any other questions? I'm we're all excited. I'm excited too. Yeah. And we we're very excited about finally getting here. I mean, there was the financing, as you know, it took uh
two months. That was a delay, which we weren't expecting, but we got to do it. Justin had from SEO did a wonderful job. He even though that there were more costs involved at their end, he kept to the term sheet as much as he to really to the almost to the full extent. So he did a wonderful job. I was so impressed
with him that I said if you are interested, we'll bring you to other projects to provide financing. He's excited about that. Um staff doing the make ready. I said that earlier, but that was so important and they jumped all over that. So Jonathan and his crew, Mike Miller, they've been doing a great
job of making those pose ready. As the name implies, make ready is important because we can't hang fiber if they're not ready. So, they've been doing a great job and as quickly as we can, as Mike just said, we want to make sure that you're connecting customers throughout the installation process.
Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Item number six, new business. Item A, discussion with possible action, water and sewer issues at 11:06 Northeast 3rd Avenue. Resident Cameron
Smith. You state your name and your residence, please, sir. Cameron Smith, 1106 Northeast 3rd Avenue, Willist, Florida.
Yes. Uh I called prior to this hearing. Uh I had to leave and go out of town, but for some reason the clerk still put
the information on the agenda anyway. Uh and there was a lot of discussion, I understand, outside of my presence. Uh, I I went back and I reviewed what was said. Uh, apparently
the clerk put it out there that I'm looking for money back. Well, I'm here to say tonight uh I had three meetings. I think you were here with with the clerk. Well, I hear a mumbling. So, let me clarify one
thing and I can only say this. If the clerk chooses to say I didn't call her to remove my name off the agenda, uh it was on the car speaker phone with three other people in the car directing her
that I couldn't make it to the meeting to please take my name off the agenda and I would come back at a later date and I'm here tonight. So, Mr. Smith, let me just correct you on that. It was probably too late. Well, it was too late
to take you off and I did tell them to table that item, but the public director, I mean public works supervisor wanted to speak on it, but I did tell them that you were not going to be able. So, I did.
Uh, okay. Uh, we're going to move forward. We're going to move on. And thank you. Thank you. So, the reason why I wanted to come before tonight
is to uh I guess to make it known that I have been getting charged for water. I have been getting charged for gas. Somebody had to forward some, you know,
someone came forward with some common sense and stopped the charge for the gas. But I have been getting charged for this ever since all of this happened. And part of it was
my fault. You gave you sent me a bill and I paid the bill. Okay. But when you continued to charge me for water and when the city when I say we when you
the city continued to charge me for gas as well. Uh, you know, the federal government doesn't like stuff like that because the names of Wararez, Gambino,
uh, Luciani, uh, all of those people, they got themselves in a whole lot of trouble for trying to strongarm the citizens. So the federal government came down on them
and said that anytime you do that and when the city chose to charge me gas and water and you put that in the mail,
that became wire fraud and racketeering. So your attorney, Miss Belaloo, uh she can help you with that. She can help you better understand how that's 62 counts, by the way.
62 counts. $10,000 fine, five years in prison. I don't want anyone to go to jail. I don't. But I will be made whole.
I will be made whole. So tonight, uh, you council members, you need to direct Miss Belaloo to contact me so we can move forward. I love my city.
I I love this little town. Uh, I don't understand a lot of the things that you do. I don't understand why some things are the way they are. But guess what? we're never going to get all the answers that we want before we leave this world.
So, um that's all I have to say. Uh and I one other thing, one other thing. There's something
there's something about uh name image and likeness now and when you start throwing folks names out especially the the Mr. mayor here says, "Had I
looked at it, it doesn't matter if I looked at it, I I chose to remove myself from the conversation and the agenda. Remove myself off of that." But a decision was made by someone
to continue. Just be careful. That's not one of my issues tonight. and I am satisfied and thank you. Thank you for giving me the time to come and
address that. But imagine imagine you not having no running water in your house and they're charging you.
There's been no gas in the home for six years. Oh, and by the way, please direct your utilities people to come and remove all of their gas. I will never need it again. Your meter, your pipes,
remove them. I I no longer need them. And it's been officially said it. I think the last time I asked about them removing them, oh, it has to be three years.
It it has to be three years. I've never heard that. I' I've checked with Marian County. Uh I've checked with with the uh some of the cities right here in Levy County. They never heard of any foolishness like that. Remove it and
cap it. Oh, and by the way, I I've got to figure out something now. I got to figure out a way on my once once water is restored.
Once water is restored, I've got roaches crawling up through my water line. You know why? Because they didn't cap it. It's it's one thing that uh it's one thing that you have to address one
thing, then you have to turn around and address something else. Here's the other the other thing is this. Um I was charged $500 for tampering with a meter.
And I've been trying to tell I was trying to tell the former city manager that this was personal. This was something personal that they were doing to me. It was personal. I I tried to tell them I I even told
them about charging me for water and uh and gas and oh, it's in the ordinance. Well, you can't make an ordinance like that. You cannot arbitrarily make an ordinance that's going to that's that's going to uh without my consent charge
me. And I'm telling you, I did not give them permission to charge me for water. I did not give them permission to charge me for gas.
So, this has got to be resolved. and your city attorney is swinging on the chair now probably trying to figure out a way how are we going to resolve this? How how are we going to resolve it? So,
uh the other thing is you charge me for a meter that everyone else was receiving. Charge me $500 for the same meter. It's not a special meter.
It's not special. First they tell me uh it was too close to the septic tank. Oh, we got to give you another meter. Okay. All right. You got to give me another one because it was too close to the septic tank. Then
you tell me we were just updating our meters. Which is it? There there's a lie in there somewhere. And the truth is still waiting. Where is the truth at?
So that's all I have and thank you. Thank you, Mr. Smith. Does anyone have any questions? He's going to leave. I can't. All right. I guess I won't. There's
nothing we need to do. Correct. Based on what was said, I have no reason to believe that the city has committed any crimes and I will thoroughly investigate any issues that arise. Thank you. There's not a gas charge on this bill. I mean, if he wants to come back,
I'd be glad to discuss it with him. There's no gas charge on this bill. I will thoroughly investigate anything. Okay. Thank you. All right. We'll move forward. Item B, discussion with possible action. Request approval to trade old Glock 45
cal pistols along with donated ammo to outfit Northeast Guns. It's actually new. Oh, new guns. Chief Mike Rolls, is he here? Are you speaking for online?
I don't know if he is or not. Okay. So, basically what it is. This is great. The cost of this is zero. There's I don't know if he's already spoke to you guys, but the cost is zero. So, what
he wants to do is take our Glocks. We already have the 9 millimeters that were donated. And we're going to take the Glocks and the ammo, and we're going to be able to equip the new guns with a flashlight, our front and rear sights, which are
night sights. So, if at night time, they're going to illuminate. And there's also and the holsters. But the bottom line is we get the we get the guns and it's zero cost because all that ammo right there that we got last
time from from Tallahassee, we are not going to shoot all that ammo. So, we might as well do something with it and make it to our advantage. You could be here 10 years and we're not going to and ammo is going to eventually go bad. So, let's use it. Let's do that
so we can go ahead and change this out at zero cost. Does it need to come back with a resolution? It does not. Can I get a motion? I move we approve the request from the
police chief uh for approval to trade the old Glock 45s um caliber of pistols along with the donation of ammo that to outfit the new guns which I believe are Glock 9 mm. A second.
I have a motion and a second. Any discussion from the council? Any discussion? We're paying this. We're helping Jennings, the town of Jennings with these or we're just trading out with the guns. I know we're doing the police
cars. Yeah. Right. Well, these selling the guns. Yeah. These came from from I believe Denellan. Okay. Okay. So, we get we got the nines from Came from Denell. Yeah. Right. And then we're um Owen has set up to tra take these and the ammos
to a uh a gun place that is going to in return we give them that they give us the flashlights for the bottoms. They give them the sights so at night time because the the guns we have now at night time they don't they don't illuminate and and then there's a
special site on there that makes us more to shoot better at nighttime. It actually lights it up. So it's really to our advantage. Okay. Good. So zero cost. It's a good thing. Any discussion from the public?
If none, we go to vote. All in favor say I. I. I. All opposed. Motion carries. Four to zero. Item number C, discussion with possible action,
placemaking peanut statues. City planner Laura Jones. Thank you, President Hines. Uh Tisha called Sue and talked to her about getting peanuts. I don't know if you guys have seen the clams out in Cedar Key, but we are trying really hard to
start some placemaking in the city. You know, our main street that you guys approved our plan. um has a lot of walkability and this will just kind of help us to get people to pull over and start looking. Um now I don't know what it's going to cost us. The peanuts are
being donated by the tourism um department, but we will have to pay for the artists and um we don't know how much that's going to cost. So, I've talked to a few people from the Peanut Project they did a few years ago and most of the horses in Ocala and they've
been donated by schools and colleges and artists. So, I think we can probably get along those lines. We don't know what they're going to be mounted to or how we're going to place them in these areas. All I'm asking for tonight is the spots if the spots are okay with you.
So, the first spot would be right here at the corner where the benches are. The second spot would be down by the gazebo, which is going to be renovated in the next few years as is. The other spot would be at the Levy County Visitors
Bureau building. I thought that would be a good spot cuz we what you really want to do is people you want people to see this trail and then go to that place and then kind of have something to do there. So that would be great if if we brought them over to Tisha's office. The other spot would be um at Cornelius Williams
Park entrance. Um and then another spot which the entrance is going to be redone. We're going to get a big new sign. We're going to have some fencing. So this will be all part of that. And then the other spot would be at the airport. Hopefully
they would bring in Oh, this is at the very beginning of our downtown, our new main street down by the school. And then the last one would be at the the airport. I asked um the airport manager where he wanted it and he maybe
inside, maybe outside. We're not sure yet, but we just want people to go down there and know that airport's there. I think that's one of the hidden gems we have here. People don't know about the airport and this trail will lead them right there. And that FBO is beautiful and they could go inside and walk around and really learn something about Williston.
Now, these are movable. So, you know, if the DOT comes in and puts their circle in over here or something ter terrible and we have to move um our peanut, it's it wouldn't be a big deal. Okay. Do we have to have a resolution or can we get a motion? I mean a consensus.
Just consensus to direct staff. Okay. I'll say yes. I say yes. Sure. Why not? So, we have one question for Miss Jones. Miss Jones. Yes, sir. Did you say you were going to like talk to the schools
about painting these? Yes. Okay. Do you see the pictures of the clams? Yes. So, the peanuts are going to be similar. They're not going to be the giant peanuts that the project was before. Those were really big peanuts that were on wheels. These will be a little bit smaller. Um, and they'll all have a
story. Hopefully we could get somebody to do a story about the airport on their peanut and maybe a Main Street on their peanut. So, um, I think we can get most of this donated. Sometimes you do have to buy the paint and the supplies if you
get art donated. Um, or maybe we'll have to pay or make a donation to one of the schools, but I think it'll be fairly small. Let me just say during the fair uh we did a project called a trashy art barrel. believe, believe it or not, that's what we called it. And it was done through Wastist Bro at the time.
Um, and Wastist Bro paid uh for the for the barrels is all they did. And we did get people, we did 10 of them, and we got people to donate the artwork. And we got everybody from Linda Valentine Brown, who is a famous artist, to FFA
did one, 4 did one, you know, this uh just everybody did one and they were absolutely beautiful. Wag did one. It was a basset hound that wrapped all the way around the barrel. I happened to have it in my backyard. Um, and and they were just all really unique and different. And then we auctioned them to
raise money uh for a project that we were doing. But I'm sure they're and and the high school art even in Cedar Key, the high school did one of them. The high school art department did one of them. So I think we can get them done without costing a whole lot of money.
So, question. It's just going to be like a regular peanut, no legs or It's not going to be a peanut man like Yeah. Um the I mean we and we haven't purchased them yet. Tisha is going to be working on that. She's I think she helped pick out these clams. I just really need to
know the location so that I could start to move on and um get my permits and anything I need. I did make sure that all of this was on city property and that's why some of unfortunately I really wanted one by the water tower up by the Wind Dixie but the way that the property was I was afraid of bringing
people I didn't want people to stop by the water tower because that property is not ours that's DOT so I decided not to do it there okay thanks only one that I would worry about the safety of is the one at the end of of South Main
by the school yeah I'd be afraid somebody run it over but they if we put it far enough off the road. Maybe they won't. Yeah. And that one will have to be moved eventually because we'll be doing a big uh water project there. So, but we could put it in and on our rightway and then um we may have to move
it for the water projects. Yes, ma'am. I just was in Vernal, Utah, and they they're really proud of their dinosaurs out there. And all of the business had these little adorable, they were all the same dinosaur, but they got them painted. Like the 7-Eleven had them
painted in 7-Eleven colors and like the Checkers Auto Place had it in Checkers. So anyway, maybe we could expand in the future to businesses being able to get the same size ones. Sure. Cool. It was cute. I have pictures.
Anything from the public? All right, we have a consensus of four to zero. Item number D, discussion with possible action code enforcement lean reduction policy, Laura, city planner Laura Jones and city
attorney. I don't mind um starting this off. So, you all will remember we talked about this um a little while ago. Obviously, we had, as was mentioned earlier, the the fiber financing issue sort of derailed this project for a little while
and now we're back on track. So, the um proposal in front of you for a code enforcement lean reduction policy can easily be changed into an ordinance or it can be um just a policy. So, that's one of the issues that you all haven't decided on. Um most of the rest of it um
has been or generally you all were in agreement with except for um section 4 which is the penalty reductions itself. I put in both sort of frameworks that you all had discussed so that you could see sort of how they would lay out and
what they would look like. Um but I'm just sort of trying to get feedback from you all. One on the policy versus ordinance decision. um and two on the sort of penalty reduction. And then just to reiterate, there was um
it was expressed that you all wanted this to sort of go through the code enforcement board first and then you all as appeal. So that is how I wrote it. So it's a little bit different than what we do now. So happy to answer any questions, but really sort of looking for feedback. Yay
nay. We like it, we hate it. Any discussion and choosing between on section four but choose choosing between one or the other of the ways correct to to reduce reduce or not reduce. Correct.
Go ahead. My thoughts. Yes. Okay. Um, for the sake of being easy to understand, I think the first one is easier for the average person to look at that and not have to do a lot of math.
And it gives us some leeway with how much Oh, sorry, some leeway with how much we can reduce past a certain point. Um, and so that would be my suggestion to go that way as long as the amount of
reduction that is allowed is substantial enough to be a deterrent. If not, why bother? Right. I agree. And I on the other hand like the other section um I like the way the gravity of
the violation whether it's minor or significant comes into play because some of them are minor and they may last forever. I also like the fact that it took into account how long it had been there. You know whether it was under 6 months or 6 to 12 months or over two
years. Um and I assume you added those two together like you did did a 50% for minor. Yep. So under six months, you had the 30 or the 80% reduction. Correct. Um that's how that's set up. And if they had no previous history, there was another 20%.
And repeat violator had no reduction whatsoever. I I liked that. I thought it was fairer. When you look at all the other and the fact that there's a $500 application to even apply, um I think most of that is going to be
our expense itself and anything else is kind of gravy. Um and if they see that it's minor and under six months, I think they will act quickly.
And if it's significant, it'll act even quicker. So that was going to be my question, too. Do we add them all together or is it Yeah. In in the second proposed um framework, you would add one, two, and three together for your total lean
reduction. And you can change those numbers. This is that's just what's proposed. I mean, it could be any variation and in no way exceeds 100%. Right. Right. I thought that was a fairer way, especially for a first offender. Um, who would jump right on it when you
gave them this information and get it done in order to get that 80% reduction if they were minor and under six months. But the reduction only comes into place once they have cleaned up the property
and they would get it done really fast if they knew they could do this. And the $500 application fee is for either both. Yeah. For either of these, I believe. So, that's the way I read it. Yeah. And I'm really fine with both. I
just that was just my thought about looking at that. I'm I'm really fine with both. And I like the way you wrote it that if it had to do with someone who was getting ready to buy the property, then they were making the application. It was a totally different That is That is a common carveout. I've seen I saw
that in a couple different I'm glad that was in there policies. So I made sure to include that. There are a few things in here that I just sort of as they were common in other policies I put them in. You know, none of it is set in stone, but I and a lot of times that is significant. I would come up with a
significant violation and you come up with a lengthy violation um for that person that's getting ready to buy it and try to put it back on the tax roles. So, I felt like we needed to give them a little grace, I guess, is
the right word. Mr. Cox, good agreeing a lot with Deborah with it. A second. Okay. As to whether it's an ordinance or policy, whichever you think is most will
serve us the best. I think an ordinance would serve you best. I think that that makes it most public and most available. The main thing we just want them to get it cleaned up. Exactly. So if we make it fair, it's an encouragement. It is. It gives
an incentive to get it done and get it done quickly. Yeah. Just one just a quick question. So the difference between ordinance and a policy is the ordinance has to come before the council and the policy can be changed at any point. Yeah. So the policy can be
changed with just any, you know, meeting you could change policy. um ordinance would need two readings in order to be um changed. The the big thing is that if you're talking about you want this to have deterrent, a lot of the time we see
people come in and they say, "I didn't realize that that's your policy on this thing. You would have to call it's not on, you know, MUN code the way that our ordinances are on MUN code." Um, and that's a lot of I think what we hear that I didn't realize and if you're
looking for a deterrent sort of factor, a policy is is not going to serve you in that way. Okay, Miss Merida. Um, so just to clarify regarding somebody purchasing a property, for example, the Waymore property. So my concern with that was
that we reduced the leans, the sale fell through, those leans are gone, and now I don't feel like that's fair to I mean anybody could kind of come in and say, "Oh, I have a buyer and so I need these leans reduced." So my understanding from reading this, I just want clarification
is that it it's the buyer that comes in and they ask for the lean reduction, but it is tied to the sale. So if the sale does not happen, there is no lean reduction. It also has to be cleaned up before you can apply. Yeah. So there's there's a
couple of different provisions that that look or what at that sort of potential possibility. So if you look at section 3.1 G, this is that's where it talks about
reductions based on a proposed real estate transaction. So the applicant has to specify that the proposed redevelopment or intended use what it is. Um if you find that that is a credible designation and you support it
with your land development codes um you can require the applicant to enter into an agreement um specifying the conditions. Now there is also a provision if you look up at C um where it sort of and also D where it
talks about the differences between if the person coming before you is the property owner who owned it when the fines were incurred versus they currently own the property, not a pending transaction, and they're coming before you to try and get them reduced. So it talks about both pending and and
completed transactions. So yeah, I guess that's I guess that's my confusion is that I feel like it says two different things here. And so can you clarify that because in G it basically says that the person who owns the property currently who is thinking that they might sell it can come and
say, "Oh, I'm going to sell it. I need like way more. I need these fines reduced so I can make more money on my transaction." Which doesn't seem fair in the scheme of this. Sure. And so that's what I'm concerned this says. Does it say that or am I reading it wrong? I I don't think that it says that exact
thing. I think it says if if there's a proposed real estate transaction like sort of what happened here, then the owner of the property, so who currently owns it, who incurred the fines, not the proposed buyer, would come before you, and say one, it's cleaned up because in order to be eligible, it's got to be in
compliance with your LDRs. And then they say, "Hey, this is what we're going to use it for. This is what the buyer wants to use it for. This is going to be a really great use for the city of Willist. It complies with all of your LDRs. If you all decide at that point that you want to permit some lean reduction, you
can require the applicant to enter into an agreement that says if the property is not developed or used consistent with the agreement, the fines and leans are reinstated or reduced. Perfect. Give them a top right. Make that happen.
Anyone from the public? If you'll come to the tell us your name and where you live. My name is Chip Hugley. I live in the city of Willis. Who's code enforcement? The young lady. Who's that? She where?
The young lady that was sitting right over there. Well, who's that? She brand new. She just started. She is. She just started. She did. Okay. Just curious. So, she's going She's on me, too. Christy Lewis, but she has like 20 years of experience somewhere else. Does she?
All right. Just curious. Anyone else? So, do I need a vote? I'm going to bring this back as as an ordinance, but I think what I'm hearing is we're good with everything in here and we'd like option two for section four.
Yep, that's good. Okay. All right. I'll bring it back. Thank you. All right. So item E, discussion with possible action, request for proposal for 541 North 541 West Noble Avenue,
Pesos O property. City attorney, I don't know why I turned my mic off. Um, this is the RP for the top of the hill property. This is I put the most amount of information that we can have possibly in here
because it's easier for you to all to tell me what you don't want than for things to be added in if you if you don't even know um what's possible. So, obviously there are blanks depending on dates and depending on when we put this
out, but and and the forms numbers will change and all of that good stuff, but the content and the substance is really what I wanted your feedback on to give me a sense of is this how we want to target
this property or do we want to do something different with it before we go ahead and put out an RFP? And I'm seeing lots of looks. So, I'm just gonna leave it there and tell me, give me feedback. You want me to start? Mike, you want to start? Go ahead. I
think our first question, and it's been my question all along, is do we want to be in the real estate business? Do we want to own a piece of property that we're leasing to somebody? And number two, we're leasing to them
for a short period of time and asking them to build a building that's going to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. And I think the whole lease, what it was, seven years with a couple of one years that went up to 12 at the outside. So, who's going to build a building
and put 300,000 $400,000 building on it and think they're going to get their money back in 12 years? or seven years with five additional one-year options, which is what it
reads. Um, and I know I've heard that there are a lot of cities that do own property and they lease it, and I love what you've written about the 247 diner. I'm fine with all that. That's great. That's exactly what we
wanted, and I think it's good enough to get what we might want. Um, but I think we're limiting it so much to somebody who's going to have that kind of money and walk in here and put it down and not walk away from it or think they can earn their money back in
12 years. Generally, what I've dealt with in previous job history is it might be like a 10 year and then it might be three, fiveyear consecutives thereafter. Pretty much like or like at the airport
we do like a a 30 year Mhm. They can get their money back on that, you know. So, right. I just don't see Yeah, the timeline is absolutely flexible. Yeah. I don't I can't see anybody coming in here and spending a lot of money. I mean, even I think about and what I think
about the the Dollar General down here. It's owned by private person here in Willist and it's it built and rented by Dollar General, but they have a long-term lease. Mhm. I don't exactly know what it is, but I know that they've
been there a long time and I'm sure they've gotten their money back. Um I've even been told they're going to tear it down and build a bigger one, but I don't know. But I can think that those a seven-year deal I don't think is going to get us what we
want. No, I agree. So, um question if we put Let me add one more thing. this downtown and we're doing a downtown and I realize that's in the CRA, but in the downtown area, I can see
us owning some property and trying to do uh what we want downtown up downstairs and versus upstairs if we have an upstairs. But over there, I think it's totally different. I just
wanted to add that you go ahead. I forgot what I was going to say. I I strongly feel that we should look for ways to generate income um that do not involve raising taxes on our citizens and this is a great way to do
it. We already own the property. We can establish whatever lease period we want. We've been shut down on several grants recently in the last couple meetings where we thought we were going to have money that was going to come into the city so that the taxes didn't have to get raised on people and those grants have disappeared. I think we are
probably going to be in a bit of a roller coaster for the next gosh knows how many years. And for us to have a little bit of financial security, to have a little bit of money coming in to pay for improvements to the city that don't cost the taxpayers anything is genius to me and I think we should do
more of it. Personally, I agree. So sell it for $200,000. But that's just one time. It's one and gone. Yep. Yeah. It's one time. And then when the money's gone, how much do you think you're going to get for that little piece of property? It's an eternity. I mean it's it's in per perpetuity sorry and so you
know we keep you know and that's why maybe we have the lease and you know we we negotiate that and do the math on it but to make sure that it is a good return on our investment and we can always sell it down the road if we want to. We can sell it down the road for
probably way more than $200,000 and we get that money plus the lease money plus we have control over who comes in. Yeah. Quick question. Let me ask this question um for our people. So the the
um time frame if we actually put it in as a specific time frame, it can't be changed. Is it like is it concrete? We could make we could make that part of so 10,000 foot view is a request for
proposals is saying this is what we generally want and here are the areas that we're willing to negotiate with you on. So we could make it I if you look here there's a chart for a respondent to say this is what I'm willing to pay in
rent and we can make it such that you know what is the lowest number of years that you'd be willing to lease the building and then that can be another one of the criteria or you can say we think that it's probably good to set it at 15 years or 20 years or
whatever you all think is is fine then you set it there. And then if the responses that come back are, hey, that's not long enough, then you can resubmit um a different time frame. Well, what if it's too long? What if somebody doesn't necessarily want Sure.
20 years. Can we change it? If we put it in there, can we like a 10 with four fives? That give them 30 years if they want. It's a It can be as an auto renewal or they can back out. Yeah. with 60 days notice they
normally date. That's what they That's what we do at the airport essentially. Yeah, I'm good with at first I wasn't too keen on uh keeping the property and selling me. I would much rather just but thinking about it
and um I like the fact that we can do it. We can generate some money but we need somebody a who's going to monitor it. Who's going to be the person in charge to do the leasing?
Who will follow up with it? Who's going to be that contact? So, if the landlord has an issue, who's going to be the the person? I guess Selena. She's our collection agency. There's a new job for Selena.
Miss Laura. Thank you, President Hines. Um, we already do have quite a few businesses in town that are land leases. One of them is the Wind Dixie. Another one is going to be the Eleanos. It's not uncommon for businesses to build their buildings on land leases. And for us to
manage it, it shouldn't be very much because that'll all come in like a management um agreement that we have. But Kirsten can put this RFP out as completely negotiable for the terms of the year. So, you don't even have to put
that in the RFP. What we're asking them to give us is a proposal of what they want to do with our land. And um they can we can say what are the terms of your land lease. What how many years would you like to have it? The research that we've done um cuz Donald and I have
done a lot of research on this. A lot of restaurants don't want as long of a land lease as say um like a Wind Dixie. For example, our Wind Dixie right now has a 26-year land lease, but some of the restaurants in town just have like a 5 to7 cuz restaurants often fail after 5
to seven years, unfortunately. So, they want to be able to get out and they don't want to have to sub lease and then have those um legal problems. So, she can put this out as saying you tell us what you want. I don't agree with the fiveyear or sevenyear lease because
that's going to be an investment that um the franchisee will put into and just to be that short of a one they won't get their money back. That what I'm saying is that's not our call. A lot
of restaurants do a five to a sevenyear lease because if they do fail they don't want to have to subleasase the building. They want to give the building back. They know that the build the business may or may not work. That's not the city's business. That's none of our business. If they fail that, we didn't
do anything to fail them. Um, so they are these mom and pop restaurants or are these franchise? Everything from mom and pop to franchises. Um, a lot of the Dunkin Donuts don't own their own properties. Correct. Starbucks don't own on their own properties, but their leases are
five to seven years usually to begin with. I don't know. But what I'm saying is I don't what why do I care what their land lease is? Let them tell us what they're comfortable doing. Yeah, that's she's saying it's a it's room for negotiation there. Whatever the incoming business
wants to do for the lease that can be negotiated with us. Yeah, I do like that better than just telling them what it has to be. Sure. Because the way it is now, they're not going to get a return on their investment. Anything for the public? The other thing I would add is if we had
a building there, I wouldn't have any problem with it at all because leasing the building is not a problem. It's just got to get in my brain leasing a piece of property that somebody else is going to build this huge monetary building off. But if we let them negotiate
the number of years, then that's their doing. Mhm. But then you may if you build a building, you may um No, I don't mean that. I just Oh, okay. I was going to say we I'm just saying if it if it was a building, we I'd be I wouldn't have any problem at all with that. But
eventually it will be. Yeah. If they walk away from it, we will own it. That's right. And then we can do a a lease of a building and not a lease of a land lease. And the nice the nice part about it is when somebody takes it over, it gets freshened up and things like that. So,
it's always going to look look nice. So, do you have if that's if that's really the only change that we're looking for, nothing else stood out to anybody, I can make that change very easily and we can send
out the RFP. I'm seeing headnons, thumbs up. All right, that was the only thing I have. Item number F, discussion with possible action employee performance review form. City manager Sue Bodet and HR Director
Kim Troy. Um, I'm going to update Sue is connected online, but she's having limited internet problems where she's at, so she's not able to talk. Okay. So, can you hear me? Oh, wait. She's here now.
Yay. Yeah, I muted myself. Oh, you figured it out. Okay, come on. Come on. Sorry. Okay, so um we wanted to put this in the council packet because as you guys may recall when you first hired me and I asked what some of
your um goals were for the new city manager. You had mentioned an annual employee performance review. So, the form that's in your packet was a combination of a form that I had previously used and then a form that the city um previously used. And if you take
a look at it, the department heads would evaluate employees on seven key skills which are uh job knowledge, work quality, attendance or punctuality, safety, initiative, communication, listening skills, and dependability. And what will happen is the employees would
receive a rating from one which is poor to five which is excellent on each of those seven skills. And the pay increases would be based on the average overall rating. And then on the second page you can see the department heads would also have the opportunity to evaluate employee strengths and weaknesses and goals for the next coming
year and all that sort of thing. So I wanted to put that before you. Obviously, we've got, you know, budget workshops coming up and I just wanted to put this before you and see if we're on the right track, if this is something you're still interested in or what your thoughts were on that.
A question I have is um when you're doing the evaluation and um is there going to be a um midyear evaluation where the supervisor if they're having issues with
somebody or seeing that things are not done they can have a conversation with them. They're not really evaluating them on a piece of paper, but having that comment so that that person knows up until their evaluation that there's issues that they need to change. Um, I
think we probably need to look at that because if I don't know that there's a problem or issue or you're having an issue with me, I can't do anything about it really. Um, so I would like to try to figure out how to do that. Um and the
other thing is um employees giving feedback to management based on you know related to how they think they've done different things that they have may have done that the management may not have seen. So um can we kind of like think
about that as well? So just a suggestion. So to answer your questions on the last page it says there's notes to the supervisor. So basically it states that the action plan it's not just a negative performance. The the review period can
be set to any time. So you can have a quarterly, you can have a mid, you can have an annual. Um, also it says that the employee is going to the employee and the reviewer are going to both sit in a in a setting and all these goals
should be achievable. All of them should align with the employees personal goals to get to the next level. This whole thing if in the back it gives notes to supervisor that this is a conversation not um uh not just like a performance review, right? This should not be
written prior to the employee being, you know, like sitting down. This is a conversation between the the supervisor and the manager or the the not the manager, I'm sorry, the supervisor and the employee. And then this is created
to where the conversation happens. They both talk about strengths and weaknesses. They go over, you know, it is it's not a discipline. And it states that in the notes that this is not a disciplinary action. We do have a process for that. This is to achieve succession to the next level. It lets
the employee know what they are. You know, if I wanted to be um the next hire up from you, you know, let's just say I was a HR generalist and I wanted to move the to the director position. Basically, this I would sit down with whoever my supervisor was at
that time. they would tell me what I need to do to um move to those levels and we create the timeline and the timeline has to be achievable. You can't give somebody something right out of the gates that they cannot achieve. You know, it's it's basically it's a
two-sided thing and uh and it says if an employee fails the action plan, revisit and adjust it based on performance. It doesn't have to be annually like if you set those goals in three months, it is on the supervisor and the employee. It creates the responsibility between the
two to come back and look at this plan and see why they failed, what they failed. And again, it's not a disciplinary measure. It is a conversation that goes into the comments that are put in there that you can, you know, okay, we didn't achieve this goal.
Why did this happen? It's not the I get it. I I understand that. I still believe that you go a whole year knowing that someone is having issues or there's things that you're not happy with. You let them go a
whole year and then you give them a bad evaluation. There should be a midpoint where they have that conversation and give that person an opportunity to correct whatever actions or mistakes or whatever it is that they're doing
before they get that rating. me sitting down with an employee and telling them different things and then they're writing it's it's too late then because I've already given them a a um a review.
So, I just I I just think that we need to um be a little bit more proactive instead of reactive. Um and let staff know. And also when you when you let them give
you information based on what they've done, what they thought you the amount of people that are here. Sue can't see everybody that's doing whatever there that they're doing. Jonathan can't see everybody even though he's he's the director. So, there are going to be
opportunities where things may get missed that that employee knows what they've done. So, if they're allowed to give their input on their evaluation, I think it'll be a little bit better. That's just my thought process. And I know like with the state um I know
people who work for the state and basically the employee would get that they would do an evaluation on themselves and then they would turn around and sit down with their supervisor and then they compare you know as far as uh with that the um and
we do that with the city clerk. She does have a self-evaluation. Yeah. I think you do it with a with the city manager. They can be done. I know companies that do that on a quarterly basis. Some do it every 30 days on employees just it's just little simple um evaluation to them
but they do it to go over it with their employees and just to see keep everybody going and if there are issues they can be addressed and yeah we can do because we did that in the federal government when we when I first started I was given a performance
plan with goals and everything that USDA had set forth and then I was allowed to go in and add my comments and we just had we called them quarterly conversations. Then that way they're not used as like an annual review and we can we can do quarterly conversations,
quarterly evaluations, whatever whatever uh anybody, you know, whatever name you want to put on it. Yeah. As long as they're having that conversation with staff midway through so that they can know that you're satisfied or not
satisfied. How can I approve? I see. How can I approve? you know. So, Miss Meredith, um, real quick, go ahead. Um, just a quick question. This is not tied to salary raise or wage
raise. This is just purely performance review. Is that correct or am I misunderstanding? In my previous thing, this is based on their race. Okay. Because I feel like that's what we only the city clerk and the city manager. We've done that. It
should not be tied to their pay. It is um tied to their race. No. If they tied to their salary. Yeah. Tied to their salary. No. We had this discussion a long time ago when I tried to stop so
much that very same thing and I was overruled. the council made the decision to make when use their evaluation and I gave all my reasons just wasn't enough. The council chose to
use it for the charter officers and so have you set a precedent? Ask her. We've only done it for the charter officers in the past before. We have not used their performance review. You had a performance review. I'm not going to
have a conversation with you. I don't want you to. Good. Then we're in agreement. When I was the president, we had this conversation and we did not I was you can check back
over the minutes. I said evaluation is an evaluation. a raise, you give someone a raise, by all means, but don't tie them together because it skews the evaluation. If you know you're going to have to give
someone a 5% raise, if you give them a 0.5 on the evaluation, you might not want to do it. And I just thought it was a bad idea. I was overruled. It has done it. It didn't used to be and then it was. I don't know what you know history
is history but you have a choice and it is not by charter it will if the attorney would correct me I would appreciate it nothing in the charter that says you must that's not what I said at all Mr. Excuse me. That's not
what I said. Excuse me. Excuse me. Excuse me. Thank you. I heard you three times and I heard you a hundred times. That's good. Okay, Mr. Please. I'm trying. Is there anything the attorney is there anything in the charter
that says you must tie them together? There is not. Of course there is not. Thank you. Is it my charter, Mr. Mike? Did you have a question? No. No. Okay. Miss Deborah, are you sure? As long as
it's related to the conversation and not anything that miss, you know. Okay. We're not going I had my head up. Okay. A long time ago. Okay. Go ahead. Um I know that Sue and Kim were not here. Um I have always wanted and I don't know about the whole council, but I've always
wanted it to be job performance-based. And you are re referencing see attached job description. But nothing here other than that very first line has anything to do with what their job performance is.
It has to do with whether they're on time, you know, whether they're, you know, whatever they're doing here. I have to look at all the rest of it. It's very generic is I guess is what whether they're safe, whether they take initiative. It has nothing to do with their job performance, with what their
job duties are. Um, and I would love to see it tied to their specific job description as to what just like Latricia's is. I don't know if you've seen hers. Hers is based on the charter and it is we evaluate her
on the things she does in the charter that she's supposed to do that are listed in the charter because that's the way the the evaluation was written. Um, and I I just feel like everybody should be that way. And that's just me. I don't know how anybody else feels. That's
true. It should be. So, my question, supervisors evaluate the workers. Who does the supervisor's job evaluation? Theirs needs to be, I think, a little bit of a different correct one.
So, the supervisors have The supervisors have Jonathan and then Jonathan has Miss Sue and Miss Sue has us. So that's the order of
organization. Just wanted clarification. Yeah. Any other comments from the council? Believe there's Mr. Benton back there and then staff.
Go ahead. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Um, so just to to touch on a couple of the points that were were talked about, if we start to tailor this too much to specific job performance, you're going to have a different evaluation for every single job. U, so looking at looking at
what we have here, right time, right place, right uniform, work ethic, job knowledge, all of that is job performance-based. You know, if they don't know the first thing about how to put two pipes together, they're probably not going to get a three. you know. Um,
so I think that you have to be careful with how we tailor this too much or we're going to make, you know, a a form one, form two, form three. You're going to have 50 different forms for evaluations and that is job specific.
Terrible. That's terrible to keep track. You don't know if they put the if they put two pipes together or they know how to go up in a bucket. That's right. Job knowledge, right? But that would be up to the supervisor to know what that employee knows or doesn't know.
That's what they get paid for. Does the supervisor know what every employee does? He better. Yeah. I'm I'm just asking the question. Yeah. If he's if he's a leader in this organization, he better or she better.
But that's not all. Please don't talk. Yeah. We're going to have public comments discussion. Um, yeah, but we how do we determine that they know if we go based on this? How does a city manager who's just now
coming in know that her supervisors or department head and then supervisors know the job of each individual person? That's that's a really good question. Um, I would say that it's at first it's going to be
difficult for any city manager to walk in and immediately know those things. You're you're going to have to to get a feel for your people. Um, and I mean this I do mean this as respectfully as possible to the council. It's not the council's job to run the city. It's the
city manager's job. And if you guys feel like she's doing a poor job at that, every two weeks you have an opportunity to tell her that or the city manager that. And I don't I'm not trying to step on toes. Um but if you know 6 months
down the line Sue is seeing issues and even you guys are seeing issues that are not being resolved, that's when it starts to get brought to their attention. Um and and you guys start to have those conversations and there is a process for all of this and most of it is in either the charter or
the HR manual. Um you know like this is like I said it's this is not a disciplinary tool. I think this looks decent. Um you know I'd love to get my hands on it once they get it tweaked out and I'm sure we will once we get it there. But um you know that's that's Sue
and Miss Kim's you know line right now and they're they're trying to get it done. Um but yeah, as far as how was Miss Sue going to know what a supervisor knows within the first two months of being here? She's not. Um the manager should know just like the man the
manager should know his supervisor just like the supervisor know his people. And if that's not happening then we have a failure in leadership, right? Anybody else had a question? Anything from the public? I wholeheartedly disagree with him. Um,
state your name, please. Amos Henderson. Um, the city worker working utilities over 20 years. Um, sitting down having this right here does not show the quality of work in any form. How do you
tell a lineman or a rightaway man that he done a good job or you didn't do this right or you did when you don't even know what he's doing? You if if your own supervisor don't or someone in management don't know what you're doing or the specifics of what
you're supposed to do or the safety way to do it or so what is that I mean is that just another write up to get rid of somebody here like you can take that. What protection do a man have when he's doing his job thoroughly, properly, but yet he
sit down and you're doing it wrong? Oh no, you get a X on that, a X on that. What protection do he have? You You get what I'm y'all don't understand? Your biggest protection is that your supervisor is the one that's going to do it. Okay. And what if your supervisor is
the one like you're not having if you're having quarums with anyone in your department? you're supervising your department. This is an easy way for him even though you're loyal, work every day hard. You this is an easy way for him to give
you a negative review, but yet you're physically here doing the job being loyal. You in the meeting the other day, I can't go to HR. I got to write a grievance. I can't go I can't do none of that. So, I mean, I'm literally stuck with this
when I am here every day. That's why I disagree with it. Now, yes, ma'am. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, you Yes, ma'am. Go ahead. So, every organization has a chain of command. Yes, ma'am. So, if you have a supervisor, your supervisor has a
boss. Your boss, your supervisor's boss has a boss. Follow your chain of command. You will never go wrong. Yes, ma'am. Okay. So if you have an issues and you and your supervisor are not working it out, then go to the next hire person so that they can have a sit down
with you both and try to figure it out amicably that you guys can still work together and not have any issues. I'm glad you brought that up, but I brought up something about harassment, sexual harassment, go through the chain of command. But the other day, the following day, I got
wrote up for asking that question. Now mind you this and she uh she say uh she apologized and all that but for asking the question but then the following day we went over the same thing that we can come to her and have the open door
policy. Like I say when you're working for uh what you feel is a honest and reliable company all means. But when you see a lot of stuff, and I've been, like I said, I've
been doing this over 20 years that you have never seen before. And at my at my last utility, I was the only African-American in the field. And I never seen the craziness that goes on at this like at the city. I I really
haven't. And it's weird. It's all weird to me. I think this right here is an easy way to get rid of men or women that you do not want here. If I have an issue out there, I'm I'm working undercore out there on the
field. It's Mike Miller's job right then and there to call me out that bucket, break it down to me there, cuz electricity do not have any mercy on nobody. Right? If I'm cutting the tree wrong, it's right there for Derek right then and there, not to wait six months
down the road or try to straighten me out. If I'm cutting it wrong, it's his duty right there as my my leader. Hey, man. No, you're doing that wrong. Now, he can go to he can go to John maybe later on. Hey, we may need to talk about this. But right then and there, you get
correction then. Utilities don't have no mercy. It's not like the airport. It's not like ACE. Utilities have no mercy at all. You you can't wait. You do it right then. You get correction right then. And I I I land with that. This right here is is utterly ridiculous. At the airport,
good utilities, never. You do it right then and there. You don't have to sit there and oh, oh, uh, such and such is doing a great job or no, man. PPE, you make sure before they get in that bucket, all PPE is on. Don't I I I don't understand this stuff. But thank y'all.
Thank you. Thank you, Amos. Thank you. Anyone else? Any other public participation? Albert Fuller, City of Will. I just wanted to say that I do believe and there there are some specialized areas
where evaluations have to be done on the spot and then maybe maybe summarized later on. But I think it's important that when an employee is being evaluated that that employee has an opportunity to
self- evvaluate before any decisions are made before any numbers are written down. The reason being once you write a number down sometimes you're committed to that
number and your thinking goes with that number and that's unfair to the employee. Many times people are working out of their necessary their job duties. That needs to be taken into account. And I
remember before when Latricia was actually being evaluated, when y'all were developing her evaluation, there were a lot of things that none of you all knew that she was doing. And so for that reason I think it's important
that there be some kind of self- evvaluation tied to their evaluation so that you come to you come together at the table and have a real conversation one where both parties has had a time to
had opportunities to think and evaluate what has been written down. Thank you Mr. Fuller. Any questions? Okay. You can ask while he comes forward. Okay. Didn't we join up with a company to
where um if doing FRPS and different things, we could go log into this site. It's something that we did. So, could we not go on there and ask if anybody has different forms that they use? It's the
Florida League of Cities. Yeah. and and we would ask them if to send us for a specific job or um even a generic one if that's what you really want cuz I know for three years every time that we start getting close to budget
and raises this conversation comes up but people want to talk about you know I think we need it it's just me because in my 40 years of working
I had them. Oh, yeah. You know, a lot of people and I I have no doubts with these guys that they can't take care of, you know, like the electric. I know Mike's going to make sure that you guys are,
you know, are safe. But I think I think we need something to to help. Yes, sir. Uh I am Joey Whitehead. I live just outside of Williston. I work for the city. Um
my question is what's stopping a supervisor, even with a self-evaluation, from making his own decision and just failing the guy completely. He shows up every day. He works hard. He does everything he's supposed to do. But
because the supervisor doesn't like the fact that he's not doing exactly what he wants him to do, regardless of whether it's safe or not, what's stopping him from getting rid of him on this evaluation? Well, we hope that it never got to this
for That's just my question. That would be an HR um issue that they could bring. I think we have to have some way to evaluate our employees and I don't disagree with that. Um, it's just how we come up with it. Um, and I do believe I
agree. I almost everywhere I've ever worked has had a self self avow and you did that first and you sat down, you had a conversation about that before the department head or the supervisor did your avow. Uh, and you tried to work things out before you got to the eval
part. Um, I'm used to them being job specific. If that's not what y'all want, that's not what you want. I'm used to, you know, like, does the guy know how to put the pipe together, whoever it was that said
that. I think that was Benton. Um, does he know how to operate the bucket truck? Does he know how to, and obviously he should if he's doing the job, but is he doing it properly? You know, is he doing it safely? And I realize those words are there. Uh, and if if the supervisor
takes the job description into uh, account, which I'm sure he will when he's looking at a specific person, it may work like it is. I just think it's very generic. I agree.
That's just me. Well, you Sorry, I didn't I didn't hear what you said. I said I agree. Anyone else from the audience? Can I Can I add something? Part: 2
want to go with something like this, then each supervisor should meet with HR and come up with the form. Then we'll have one out for Benton. We'll have one for uh, you know,
utilities, parks, you know, we'll have one for each of the things. Maybe that's the way to go with a department specific rather than job specific. Yeah. and a self avail. I think they're easy
enough to find online because if it's me, I would want Mike Miller evaluating his guys because Mike knows that. It wouldn't be fair for me to Oh, no. Go over there and say, "Nope, you got to do that."
Anyone else, Mr. Mayor? Thank you very much. Uh I see the complexity of what you're dealing with and I thank you for your hard work. Uh all of you. Uh
I also feel for the workers who are concerned. People are people. Someone gets mad at you, they can use that position. And uh so it's a very difficult and complex issue. And I have no answers for you.
But my basic philosophy is do nothing that might hurt. If you do nothing at all, you at least haven't hurt. If you choose to do it,
good for you. But I try to. If I'm not sure of all the ramifications of a decision, I just choose to do nothing. Thank you. So, are we What do we want to do?
I think that and I won't speak for Kim, but I think that we have the feedback of we want um some fleshing out on a selfie val. We want more specifics on the timing of the selfie val and and these and then um some discussion regarding department specific.
And if that's I'm seeing lots of nods, so I think we can we can bring that back for your review with those with those with that feedback. Okay. Thank you. I heard somebody. I think it's Hey. Hey, it's Sue. Sorry. Can I just ask you one
more question? Did you want to tie them I mean my original intention here was to tie them directly to raises, but it sounds like you do not want to do that. Correct. We do not. Yep. We have no control of the budget. Do you still want to do raises based across
the board, but you do want to put this in place just so we have an idea as to how employees are doing. Correct. Say that again. I'm not sure I agree with that either. Well, I mean this that like I said that was my idea for raises, but you it sounds like you guys would rather still
do the across the board raise like you did last year, but just put these in place so that we have an understanding of how employees are doing in their roles. Um I think that's something that we probably need to discuss more at a different time. Um maybe you can meet
with each individual council member and have that discussion, you and HR. Um and then we can bring it back and discuss in front of everybody. Um but yeah. Yeah. Or we can talk about it
in our first budget hearing or yeah see what they propose and see where we go with it. Well, I think we need to have at least have some sort of conversation with them prior to them going in and redoing this. That way they kind of have a better idea of what it is that we're
looking for. Does this sound doable? Okay, thank you. Item G, discussion with possible action, increase credit card limits, city manager suit. What?
What? So, um, in your packet you'll see the LA the credit card limits were last updated in 2021, which was obviously pre-COVID. Um, this originally came up because Laura had requested an increase due to the fact that she manages, you know, basically Florida Department.
She's got animal control, the animal shelter, code enforcement, and planning. So, her $2,000 was not enough for her. And then Donald also requested a credit card as well because of all the purchases he makes for water and sewer and gas and everything in his
department. So, um I my personal opinion if you're going to increase these maybe to increase them from the 2,000 to the 2500 to maybe 5,000. Um and you can do it obviously specific to the employee, but I mean $2,000 these days unfortunately is is not a lot of money.
So, your thoughts? My first thought is why is the purchasing agent not on this list or does he use somebody else's card? Who are you speaking of? M. Who are you talking about specifically? I'm talking about Jason Lee.
Does he get a card when he needs it? Say Say that again. We put him on there as well. I still didn't hear that. She can She didn't understand them as Oh, because they're not there. Yeah, you can add them on. And my other question is why is
Jason not purchasing the things for the other department? He uses sort of everybody depending on what department he's purchasing for currently. And I guess that's one of my questions is why is why are water, sewer, and gas
not going through the purchasing agent? Don, can you answer that question? I can answer that for J. Water, sewer, and gas does go through Jason. Everything purchasing goes through them. The credit card on mine was due to the large expenses that I usually have to
purchase, but I uh Jason has uh Jason and I work together to where I do purchases for him that that we do not have uh uh account set up when it's an emergency purchase and we go from there.
also do emergency purchases for other departments when uh their credit card limits have hit and they need uh there. But Jason should have a credit card so he could do a lot of it on his own uh rather than
having to come through me. But you know and so he uh and he also uses Jonathan's card and so it's whoever's here. Uh, uh, you know, Jason, yes, he he I just was
surprised not to see his name on the list. Um, and I don't see Donald's name on the list that's before us. So, these are the ones that are This is the current card holders. Is that what this is? These are the current limits. That's the current limit. That's what this is. Yes. Okay.
Um, and if everything from water and roads and sewer, excuse me, water, gas, and sewer goes through Jason, I don't understand why we would need to add Donald. Um, and we would need to add Jason.
That's just You say this, Madame President, you say this is the current list? This is the current list. As far as I know, Chief Stro is not our police chief. No, not the current um names. The amount. The amount. Yes, sir. Not the name. Correct.
The position is what these are for. Yeah, because it still says Jerry Robinson, too. Yes. And put in Oh, it says Jackie Gorman as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's just showing the amounts that was approved back in 2021. Okay. Yeah. And
it has not been increased or changed since then. I could see Um, I also don't see yours on there. I could see increase in Jonathan's. And if anybody else has to order something,
they go through him. They could go through him. My only question there is does the purchasing policy allow Jonathan to go over $10,000? I don't believe it does. No, ma'am. Not without a signature. So that would be the No, without either that or we'd have
to sign. He's without a be a Yeah. So, so if it goes to there's a specific process if you're going to spend over that amount, you can still use a credit card if you're going to spend over that amount,
but you have to go through the purchasing policy, right? So, I I can I guess theoretically there could be a circumstance where you do bid it out competitively and then still need to use a card to purchase something that's $20,000. Okay.
I I wouldn't guess. Yeah. Jonathan. So, uh, sis, damn it. Speaking about mine, instead of that fancy word, um, a lot of mine is for travel and for midnight expenses for like when you need parts for the water department or whatever,
middle of the night water leaks when we're out of uh, stock or special stock or something like that. That's a lot of what mine is used for. And that in schooling. So, do we need them to bring this back to us with the recommendation with the right names on it? No, we just look at the titles. I think
the titles are correct, but some of the names are wrong, but the titles are correct. Don't even worry about the names. Just look at the I mean, we don't have a deputy police chief anymore. No, we do have a deputy fire chief. All almost all the names are wrong. And I can see Laura's needing an increase
because of overseeing the the shelter. The shelter. She probably buys that much food in a month. Madam President. Yes, sir. Mayor, thank you. Uh, I guess I'm a little
confused about Jason. He is your procurement officer. Is that correct? Yes. Why would anybody other than him be buying things?
I can see for travel, for expenses, but if you have a purchasing agent, that's who should be doing the purchasing. By my limited point of view, it's all I have. Thank you.
Can Jonathan answer that for us? Can you answer that, Jonathan, for us? Yes, ma'am. Sometimes uh when Jason, he's he's a fantastic employee by the way, but when he's doing all the different quotes and bids and what have you, sometimes it's just easier for us to help him out and do things with him. So, it's not working beneath him, under him,
or around him. It's just sometimes when things get real busy, it's just easier to help him do it. So, we do it ourselves. And not everything can you get a PO on because a lot of the stuff now because everything's changing, we don't have uh the uh what's the word I'm looking for? The account set up already.
So, it's easier to use the PO. It's easier to use a credit card instead of a PO. And then we get the account set up and then it does goes like it's supposed to. So after you purchase, then you take it back to him and he sets it up appropriately. Yes, ma'am. It's even when you use the credit cards,
everything comes back. Everything gets a PO. Everything not a PO, but everything gets a GL code and everything gets assigned on whoseever department it actually ends up at the end of the day. So it's still accounted for and you have multiple signatures. Does the purchase. Well, then I I guess we need to to um
cuz Miss I'm coming here. Miss Latricia, what is your card used for if you don't mind me asking? No, I don't. My card is used for when I do special events. Special events. And also, my card is used for when I book the council.
I pay for the conferences, your rooms, and whatever else you might need to have when you're going out of town on conference. So, I basically take care of you guys besides the ones that have their credit
card like you and um Mr. Cox. I know you don't have yours yet, but when you do, so when you're asking for an increase, what are you looking for related to the amount of an increase for the different departments? Yeah, that's why I asked for a new table
so we could actually see what they're asking for. So, you will would you like for me to get with them and see what amount they would be comfortable at or what they would be comfortable with at their limit, I should say. Like for instance,
let me just give you example. Um, when Jonathan went to DC, him and Mr. Cox, I increased his by 4,000 because I'm the administrator over the credit cards to make sure while he was up there that he
was able to use his card and there was no he wasn't, you know, he didn't go over his limit, he had enough on his card to be able to pay for the room, pay for the Ubers back and forth to the capital. And soon as he got back and everything had cleared, I decreased his
card back to the 10,000. Mr. Aaron, yes. Go ahead. Uh, just to clarify a little bit, like for instance, I use my name's not on the list either, but I use the card that I have literally a lot of things that I deal with, we don't do, they don't take POS. Uh, they
want payment right now. um licenses on software, different things are, you know, it's just all that all the above. All that stuff goes and that's it ends up getting paid on the credit card. A lot of things for internetbased hosting, all these things they're set up autopay
and they just come every month, they get paid. We get the invoice, it gets turned into AP with the account codes and such on it with the, you know, it's all accounted for, but that's why we have the cards is it's a lot of things like that. Um, sometimes it's an emergency
need that it's not a a stock item. With utilities, they stock a lot of parts. You know, they got pipe fittings and gas valves and all those things they need. They keep that stuff in stock. Um, Dorine calls me and needs a power supply for her printer in her car. Well, I don't have an extra one, so I have to
get her one. And typically, I search it and find the best one I can find. And usually it's Amazon. It's the best price. And I can get it within a day or two. and you know cuz those things you just can't go to Best Buy and buy one for that printer. Um you know that's kind of what I use mine for and
sometimes it's travel or whatever may be related but most of the time it's just the routine things that we need. I mean just on a side note I'm sorry just because we have this limit sometimes I don't even buy things for that month.
There might be months I might buy maybe $100 worth of items or something like that. So all and that goes for the rest of the guys as well. You know, they might have a $5,000 limit, but some months they don't ever get up to the 5,000. Might be 100, 200.
I just I I I believe um that even your your purchaser purchasing person should be making all of the purchases regardless of whether it comes from Amazon or anywhere else. If you find it cheaper at Amazon, then you
should be able to go to that person and say, "Hey, I found it cheaper here. We need it. We need this for whatever it is that and your purchases are still done by them and put wherever it needs
to be put at that specific time." Mr. Steel. Thank you, Madam President. Um, so with uh with that being said, um, I don't typically call Jason or Danny unless I
need something. Um, and I and I'm in a, you know, a pretty bad way for it. U, we order very very much like Aaron. We order a lot of stuff for the airport off of Amazon. Um, you know, we we shop around for the best price. Um, trying to find the, you know, I've ordered starters for John Deere Gators. I've
ordered them for, you know, all kinds of pieces and parts for equipment, lawn mower blades. You'd be surprised you can find lawnmower blades cheaper on Amazon than you can from the stores. Um but, you know, I'm I'm hurting with this one because uh you
know, I I went to um SNM today. And uh we had one of our crew cars being worked on and um you know it was a a water water pump leak. They had to replace two or three components and it
was under $1,000. Cool. Go up there um take my card up, swipe it. Nope. Declined um outright. So and SNM the city does not have a line of credit with u. So you know I thankfully I called uh
Danny Wallace and said, "Hey buddy, you know, where you at? needs some help. And you know, he was able to come save the day. U but you know, $2,000 to get an airport through a month is not much. Um I can spend that on batteries for our
little, you know, golf carts or go-karts or whatever else. And I understand we have Napa for some of that stuff, but sometimes you can find stuff a lot cheaper online than you can at Napa. Madame President, just to um add to the discussion, there is from a legal
perspective um something to be said for not consolidating all of the credit limit on one card um for one person to to spread it around instead of saying just this person will have a very large credit limit. So, they can purchase for multiple um different areas and
departments to spread it out, which limits the liability of the city. I also just comment that Jason's not a department head. So, at least to my knowledge, he's not a department head. Mr. Mayor,
how could you see me with your head turned the other way? I saw you do this. Uh, I'm totally speechless. I don't know how you did that. Uh, my question is this
list, I don't see Aaron or the airport on this list. Is it a you can I just not see it? Is it different? No, it says airport manager. Yeah, I prefer a new list with new limits. I I'm not on the list, Mr. Mayor, because this list is
from 2021. Yeah, I I I want to see it was pre me. Okay. Pardon me, sir. This list is pre me. It was to from 2021 when the initial credit limits were set. So, they haven't been changed. That would tell me that this list is not up to date
or accurate. I agree. Okay. Thank you. I make a motion we table this until we have an accurate list and move on. 100%. Bring bring one back with the suggested. Yep. And then we'll Can I get a second? There's a motion on the table.
There's a motion and a second. Go to vote. I agree. I think I said that 10 minutes. All in favor of tableabling this into a different day say I. I. I. All who are opposed say I
motion carries. Four to zero. Discussion with possible action. Vacation payout. city manager Steve Bod. Okay. So, at the last council meeting, you guys asked me to go back to um Steven Bloom and ask his um
recommendation in terms of if we were to pay out half of uh this total 77,000 plus now and then half in the new budget year. And what he suggested, and I apologize it's not in your packet. I just got this around 4:00 this afternoon is that the council pay out the I know
this is going to be a little technical so I apologize but the council pay out the eight employees with 288 or more carryover hours as of December 1st of 2024. So I'm going to go through each of them so you guys have an idea of who those eight employees are. So this would
include Donald Barber which had he has 200 200.28 hours. Jonathan Bishop who has 428.14 hours. Sterling Cthulhu who has 30.7
hours. Matthew Thornney has 15.65 hours. Mike Miller has 144.96 hours. John Clawer has 148.3 hours.
Benton with 66.2 hours. And Natricia White with 32.2. 24 hours. It would bring the total cost down that we would need to pay out from 77,654 to 37,438.
So it's roughly $30,000 less. And then his suggestion is that then staff would be required to utilize the 2025 vacation hours or lose them this year. So it's a use or lose situation again because of this new system that we're in. So that's our first sort of recommendation.
And then um last week, Council Jones actually came up with another suggestion which um I really liked and that is to combine the vacation time that we offer to staff with the sick time that we offer into one big bank of DTO, paid
time off. Um and if we did that, we would just take the 288 that they can acrewue right now plus the 800 that they can acrew for sick right now. So they make a total of 1,088 hours and the staff can use it in any way that they see fit. So the benefit to the city is
that obviously we wouldn't have to pay a lump sum of either 77 or 37 whichever way we go out at this point. And the benefit to the staff is that they would be able to cash out all of this PTO at 100% when they separate from the city. And keep in mind that currently the
staff's only allowed to cash out their sick at 25%. not the 100% when they separate from the city. So, two kind of, you know, frames of reference here is, you know, to kind of pay out the people who have the most hours carried over as of December 31st
of last year or change basically change the entire, you know, manual and make it so it's just one bank of PTO. They can earn up to that 1,088 hours and nobody would be affected at that point. Nobody has over 1088. And that was my thought for today.
Madame President. Yes, Mayor. Do we still have a union representing? So, we would be changing the agreement with the union if we do this. Is that correct? Which part of this are you
talking about? Uh, combining their hours. Um, I am not a union rep. I could not tell you. Not either. We obviously would have to get there by him. You're exactly right. That's my question. Okay. And what's the hours capped at for the
uh 1088 currently? 288. Currently 288 288 and 800. But if you put it all together like she said it's 1,088. 288 is sick vacation.
Vacation. So you have more sick time than vacation. Yeah, a quarter of what? Madam President, your your sick time. So So if you have just say 500 hours in
sick time, when you leave, you only could cash in a quarter of it. The rest goes away. Yeah. If you combined it with both your sick your vacation, your max is 10.88, but when you leave, you can cash all of it in, including your 500 hours of sick
time. Yes. Yes, Mr. Bishop. She basically said the same thing. I was going to Oh, okay. Now, you take someone in my position. We're down three people at work. I need
13 people to run that that department over there in the police department. Um I don't four times I've put in for vacation since May. Four times I had to change my flights because one left, one
got fired, and the other one got fired. I we still have to work. We can't work with just one person on the road. We have to have two people on every single shift. So, I'm trying to take my vacation, but it's just not working out. I've now
moved it to August 20th. Oh, for my ex anniversary, too. So, so So, what about we do both of those things, Miss Sue? Can we pay out the ones you said to pay out and then
combine the remaining hours? That way, the liability is less when you combine it. Okay. Mhm. our our to go back to the we would probably have to go back to the union and talk about that for people who are you know in the union but I think that would be a really
great idea if we did both of these or some combination of them. Yes. Right. And I think that total conversation is a good one to have. Yeah. I don't agree with that. I think it still should be separated um sick
time versus ale. Um that that that gives people especially if they know that they're going to lose but the ability to actually take a vacation that is usually needed because they're working obviously it appears a
lot all the time. Um, and those vacations need to be encouraged. Even Even though I know we might be short staffed, we have to come up with a plan to make sure that people still can get their leave when they're supposed to. Well,
they can get their leave. Um, I got one on vacation now. Okay. She took the last two weeks off. I have two going on vacation at the end of July. It's just I don't get the one that's over. I don't get to go on vacation because I have to cover their shifts so that the other
employees that are below me can get to. So who is over you? Who's over me? Matt Major who was also over because he's also been filling in while people are going. And who's over him? She.
So you know we we all need to pitch in. Should should probably be pitching in. But when you say when you say sick time. Okay. I I at Marian County when I left there I had over 2,000 hours of sick time. I never call in sick. I am there
all the time. And that's a sacrifice that I have made into this department and Marian County. Even when my husband died of cancer and I took eight months off to take care of him, I still had over 2,000 hours
because that's my dedication that I do. And there's also there obviously wasn't a cap. Well, there wasn't. There wasn't. So, what they did was you get to cash in a quarter of it and then you get to burn off the rest. I also feel like if they
run out of sick time, if it's PTO, if it's paytime off, they may run out of sick time if if they're ill or their kids are ill or whatever happens. Uh but they have the ability to take the PTO for whatever reason they need it, whether it's sick time or vacation. But
even if they run out of sick time, they still have their Well, there won't be sick time if we combine it. But they have their EL. So, which means that they can use it. Oh, yeah. And then they can use FMLA does you have to pay your own insurance.
You have to pay Yeah. And if if you're not working, you don't have the money to pay it. I mean, it just gets complicated if you don't have the money to pay it. You lose your benefits is what a mouse do if you're really sick. But if you're using your PTO because you're sick is
combined with your vacation and you have the hours because you just combined them. Then you have the ability to use that money to pay the pay because you're still getting a check. Your premium still comes out of your check, but they will still be getting a check anyway. Not if they're on FMLA. Yes,
they will. Cuz they because you use your time for FMLA. Not if they ran out of sick time. They have AL. If you look at FM, okay, I think we're getting kind of off of it is what I'm saying. I don't know what annually or vacation time, whatever you want to do. Yeah. So, you
can you can use that FMLA is is totally different. I know that. And it's a whole lot of stuff in in compass. So, what would we like to do today? I guess we want to we tabled, right? And we voted. We didn't table and we haven't voted. Oh, not on this one. Oh. Oh, we haven't.
We haven't. No, I probably wanted us to. Yes, sir. I just have a question. I see you have an answer. I doubt it, but maybe. Uh I see this as all good for
this for our employees. Uh that whole thing of losing part of your pay if you leave the city and you haven't used it. Um, we have a number of people in that position and as I
remember hearing it was like you get 25% and the rest just goes away of sick time. Of sick time. Right. So what I'm saying is if I'm an employee and I'm not someone that uses my sick time, I'm all
for this. My question is, is the city really all for this or are we just kicking the can down the road and putting it on someone else's back? That's all. Thank you. I don't think it's kicking it down the road because the cap is there now. So,
it won't happen again. It will not. Correct. That's just what I feel about. And again, I think it's a pretty good idea to pay out those first. What I think it was eight that she said was eight people if that was the right
number and then and then combining the others to have paid time off if the union would approve it. I would like to pay off whomever the first half and then after
budget pay off the second half. Miss Sue um is our Mr. Bloom good with this if we paid off the top half. Yeah. Okay.
All righty. Where's he going to get the money? Do you know? He didn't actually say he just said he had it. He didn't give me a line item, but he said he had it. So, how is it fair to pay off eight people and then the rest of them you put them into a box?
Is that grievable? Well, these are the people who have been carrying the the time off the longest. But they're all over they're all over that cap. So, how do you how how do we justify paying some and not all?
I think she said earlier, help me miss Sue if I misunderstood, that part of it is acred since January 1st of 2025. And Stephen wants them to use those January, February, March, April, May, and now June before the year is over, which
means October, I guess. Um, well, December on the calendar year. Okay. It would be December, not January, not October. So that they could use it then. That's why he saved the rest of them out. They took off the hours that were acred prior to
January 1st. And that's why some of them got it, some of them didn't. So some of them have old hours sitting there. Those are the ones that she wanted to pay off. So my my question is for
Miss Beloo. Is there any conflict or repercussions to paying off half people and half not when they're all over a limit? If did you understand what I'm trying to ask? I mean, some of them are still in the
current year with all those hours. Some the ones she didn't read off are still in the current year. I don't understand. Have been acred after January 1st of this year. The ones that we're not paying off have been acred after January 1st of this current
year. And the ones that we will be paying were acred prior to January 1st of this current year. So if you if you treat like jumped up there, so I'm sorry. I apologize. If if you treat like categories the same, then then that
would be appropriate. So if we're talking about prior fiscal years versus current fiscal year, then that would be a good delineation. So So I'm giving you an example just so it'll kind of make a little more sense if you're looking at the list in your
packet. Really? So everybody else that's on this list, all of their hours that they have that's over, they acrew from January to now. Well, not necessarily. So take a look at let's use Devon Henden Wang as an
example. So see how he's got 175.3 caro carryover hours. Here's this now. and uh Devon Henden Lenny kind of in the middle of the C halfway down the so he's only been here for yeah he's only been here
since 22 he's got 175.3 hours that carried over so that's prior years right and but then if you look in the available column he's got 209.18 so as of his you know last paycheck that's what it would have showed for available time off and we were only
looking at paying him 9.18 hours because we were looking at bringing all of the employees down to 200 hours so they could continue to acrewue throughout the year. So he doesn't show up on the list that Stephen gave me today because again he didn't have that much that he was
over in the past fiscal year. So that's why some of these people get eliminated. They didn't have as much carryover as the people who have been here longer like Donald and Jonathan. Does that make sense?
It it doesn't because from January until now somebody has acrewed 270 hours. No. CVR will call them. He acrewed 33.88 hours this year for
this calendar year. Uhhuh. That's what we're leaving not paying out. Okay. Because he only earned it this year and he still hadn't used it yet. Okay. And he has the availability of using it. right before December. Okay. That's how they figured out who to pay what.
And all other people are under 288, so they left them off the list. Okay. Gotcha. Madame President, uh, Chief Rose would like to speak. Okay. So, hold on. Chief Rose, go ahead.
Chief. Yes. Go ahead and speak. Hello, Madame President and council. Hello. Uh, I was listening to the conversation on the on the time that some of the
officers are over uh let's start with with uh Major Fortney. Major Fortney has a cure accured his hours over a 26-year period. Uh so back
in that time, my understanding is that uh they were allowed to carry over the limit back then long before I got here. Uh and he has been working diligently to take some of his time off. uh the the
issue we have with him as well as Dorene uh which I think she is looking at the list 330 hours over and composur who's not at the 288 mark so I'm not sure why he's on the list because the
policy clearly states that the limit is 288 and according to this list he's only at 252 so I'm not sure why he's on there uh But, uh, as I'm saying, the issue with us is we don't have any extra
people when it comes to people taking time off or people getting sick or, you know, the thing we don't like is if we lose an employee. So, we all chip in, including myself, because we shift shifts to try to cut down on that time.
Uh it's a difficult task for us over at the PD because we just don't have that extra uh help and we have to cover the shifts and we have to have people on control which in turn leads to people
gaining time uh and it's hard for us to give them time off when we are short as for an example this current time we're in now we are short but Dorine Thomas and Major Fortney have all
gathered their time over a over a long period of time. This didn't just happen since January, which I heard some discussions about. So, but just to let the council know, we are working to get that time down. We can't do it now
because we're in a bad situation right now with losing an employee, having employee having employees in training, trying to get them off the road. Plus, it's summertime and people are taking off to spend family time, which is which is greatly important. So, we don't have
the opportunity to really work on it right now, but just to let you know, we are working on it. Okay. Thank you, Chief. So, the Yes, ma'am. So what I was inquiring about was to make sure that we were not putting ourselves as in a hole by paying some
people and not paying others. So that was the gist of this last conversation that we're having. Yeah. Can can I ask cuz like um uh conference story I'm not sure uh uh city manager why his name is
on the lips as well as I see my name on there and I only have 229 hours when the policy clearly states 288. Is there some reason why we're listed on there?
Yeah, because we were trying to take everybody down to the $200 so they could continue to earn it. So, if you see at the top, it says excess of $200. So, that's why you guys are on this particular list. But it's 288, isn't it? Not 200. I don't know if you can I don't
know if you can force an employee to go down to 200 hours when the policy clearly still clearly states that the limit is 288. Exactly. So until they reach the 288 mark, I don't think we can mandate them to take their time down to
200 hours. I mean, you correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just asking for clarification. It was just so that you could continue to earn. If we took you down to exactly 288 and then, you know, in the next pay period, you get another whatever it is, four, six, eight hours, whatever it is, then you're going to be back over it
again. We didn't want to have you being violating it at literally the next pay period if we took you down to exactly 288. Except they won't be over because the system won't let them. Correct. Well, the system won't let them. And if we're going to mandate that the hours at or at
200 hours, then we need to readress our policy uh that reflects that because otherwise I don't think unless curious to know something I don't know if the policy says 288 that you can make an employee
go down to 200 hours. Yep. That's conversation we're currently having. Aaron, I got Mr. bring him on the line. He said he can comment. Okay. Go ahead, Stephen. Oh, yes. Uh, good evening. Um, I just
wanted to to kind of reiterate a couple of the points here. The first is is that um the money would be uh taken from the um open and vacant positions for the year. That's that's how this would get
paid for. Um so each each of the departments and you just heard in the chief mention it has some vacant positions. So you know that's how we would cover uh the costs for the year. Uh the proposal that I did submit um did
ask to split it out over two years. Um that's obviously up for the council to decide to do that part of it. Um but yeah, the this really looks at, you know, the the time that was extra as of January
1st, you know, the end of the year. Anything that's occurring in 2025, um it still, you know, it allows the employees to to handle their, you know, their PTO for 2025 like they normally would if there wasn't anything being carried over
into the year. Okay. Thank you. Do we have a motion? I have a quick I have a quick question. I do too. Go ahead. Sorry. Um I feel like these are two separate issues, but we are potentially voting on them at the same time, which is the payout plus the
1088 that was proposed, and I don't really feel comfortable voting on them together. I feel like they should be two separate. Okay. I agree. And my question is, can you give us a new list that says 288 instead of 200? Let's see who's left on it.
Yes, that submits already. I already submitted that list to the city manager. The 288 is 200. Didn't get it in time. All right. Quick enough for the agenda. Okay. My little table off the table or I make
a motion we table this until we have another updated list. Can I get a second? Second. So, we have a motion and a second. We go to vote because we've already discussed.
Um, all in favor say I. I. I. All oppose say I motion carries 4. Now we have the You need to take a break. 10 minutes. Let's take a break. 10 minutes.
Okay, we'll take recess for 10 minutes. Return at 8:46. 8:45. 8:45. That's 9 minutes. Stand up at least.
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know your password. Oh, just saves it for me. I don't have to remember this stuff. All right, I can do this. Oh, I think I do. I think it's the same. It's the same. It is the same password. I don't know if it's the same as computer. I don't know. I think it is. I
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password. Caps locks on by the way. Oh my god. I'll get It's me watching somebody who's never cleaned a stall before try and clean all like just do it. Just just move out of my way. Now, I'm going to add something to this whole argument. Okay. But this
argument, the money is there in unpaid salary. Just pay the damn people out $77,000 and be done with it. But I want to take out the 25. Just pay them and be done. If we take out the 2025, I'll do I agree with that. I mean, that's fine. Rather than that, I mean, that's that's
fine. Yeah, I agree with that. Just that's what we agreed to. I would have voted on, but the money's there. We we've got a million. I mean, not a million, but I mean, there's a lot of money in positions that weren't filled for last year. We can pay the $77,000. Well, it won't be I know,
but I'm just saying we can't sit there. But I'm saying we can. It's there. I agree. take out the 25 and let them instead of trying to because if you if you put it in the PTO, hell, the people that are not even take it. No way. You're gonna end up giving somebody six
months of vacation. No, I'm saying if you roll it together. Yeah, it's 27.2 weeks of paid. I don't know. It's six months of vacation. Oh, thank you.
Are they out there? There's a lot of people I don't use hardly ever Hey, whatever. Mr. Aaron, are we ready? Go for it. Okay, we're reconvening at 8:48 p.m.
We're going to have resolution read by councelor who count. Madame President, um item I is an ordinance and it's the second reading. I have on there the first reading. So the
correction is is second reading. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yes, Madame President. This is second reading of ordinance 2025-755, an ordinance of the city of Willist, Florida, amending the city of Willist code of ordinances as amended, providing
for the addition of chapter 2, article 9 to be titled fire services assessment. Providing for def definitions, interpretation, general findings, legislative determinations of special benefit, applicability, and alternative method. Providing for general authority, initial proceedings and assessment role providing for notice by publication and
mail. Providing for adoption of an effective of final assessment resolution. Providing for adoption of annual rate resolution. Lean of fire services assessment. Economic hardship program and revision to fire services assessments. Providing for irregularities. Correction of errors and emissions and interim assessments. Providing for method of collection and
alternative method of collection. Providing for codification, repealing any inconsistent provisions. Providing for severability and providing an effective date. This is the second reading of the ordinance that allows you to enact a fire assessment. So again, just like the last reading, this does
not set your rates. That's your next item if you pass this ordinance. Um, this is just the sort of lay out that allows you to move forward with that process. Happy to answer any questions. Can I get a Well, Mr. Steagle, would you
like to say something or did she cover it? She covered everything. Can I get a motion? I make a motion we approve the second reading of ordinance 2025-755. I second. Okay. So now any discussion from the
council? Any discussion from the public? We go to vote. All those in favor say I. I. I. All those opposed say I. Motion carries 4 to zero.
Madam President, the next item is resolution 2025-69, a resolution of the city of Wilston, Florida, relating to the provision of fire protection services, facilities, and programs, providing authority, purpose, and definitions, providing legislative findings describing the method of assessing fire services
assessment costs against properties within the city of Willist. Determining the fire assessment cost and initial fire services assessments, directing the preparation of an assessment role, authorizing a public hearing and directing the provision of notice, therefore providing severability conflicts and an effective date. Um,
this is the resolution that actually sets your rates. This is your initial resolution. You have a final resolution that comes after this. We have um Sandra Newbart from and please correct me if that's not how to pronounce your name um from Accentra who has been uh hired as
your consultant to work with you through the fire assessment process. Um so she has had an opportunity just like the ordinance to review this resolution. Um and I'm sure hopefully I'm hoping between the two of us we can answer all of your questions. Do I have a motion?
Don't look at me. I make a motion we approve resolution 2025-69. Do we have a second? I second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion by the council? I'm not real thrilled with the amount
with the rate. I realize it's the lowest rate and it could go down and it can't go up. I do know that. Um, but I'm afraid it'll stay where it is. So, is it the lowest rate? I thought
there it's the highest rate. Oh, it's the highest rate. Yep. So, we asked to for you to bring back um fees based on the different lure rates. Mr. Steagle, did you do that for us? I'm
sorry. You asked me to bring back the what? Um the fees at a lower percentage. Yes, ma'am. you did ahead with a rate scenario sheet a while back. I think that was the first time that it was we talked about it. Correct. Yes,
ma'am. And I think Miss Deborah asked you to bring back something at was it like 10% or 15%. Miss Deborah? Yeah. Yes, ma'am. 15% is on there. Is it on there? Yes, ma'am. It It's not in our current packet. Okay.
I mean, do you want to know what the numbers are? 15%. Sure. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh, residential would be $81. Non-residentidential would be 2 cent. Vacant land would be $4. Um, your
estimated net revenue would be $108 326. And what about 15? That is that was 15%. Oh, that was 15. Yes, ma'am. That is the lowest one we have on a scenario sheet
with a difference at approximately 20,000 difference roundabout. Yes, ma'am. So, what's the 20%. 20% residential 108 non-residential two
cent per square foot land is $5. Your estimated net revenue would be 147 and subtain 147819. Any other discussion? And as again I do do know that this is
particularly where we cannot go above but we can go low. Uh but again I'm afraid it'll get stuck at 159. And I tell you I'm much more comfortable at the 25%. at to start because I know next year we
can go up or the next year. How much? Okay, we now we haven't 25 is uh 137 a house that's 25.4% and that's a net of 19480. That's 25 25.4%. Yes, ma'am. But those
are not the numbers you just gave me. He gave you 20%. I give you 20%. Oh, okay. I asked for 25, but maybe not. I wrote 25. So, that was 20. Yeah, you asked for 20.
Any discussion from council? Any discussion from the public? So basically at the 29% it would be $1325 cents a month basically is what it breaks down to. Yes.
But you're not paying it by the month paying by the year. Right. Right. But and I'm just asking it can be it can be broken down on your tax bill just like you pay your land taxes. I mean it can be broken down into quarterly payments. Quarterly. Yeah. Or in your espro. Yes.
Okay, I I will tell you this that Chief's currently at $159 a house. Levy County just moved theirs to adopt their highest rate. That doesn't mean they're going to impose their highest rate, but they're going to adopt a lot higher number.
They're looking at only $374 a house. Gosh, I'm glad we're not in the county. That's right. cow, but they won't adopt that number. That's just so they can go to that number in in the event of emergency without having to go back through the whole scenario, but
they can lower it to any number they want. So, we just agreed to 29%. Does it stay that way for the first year and then after that you can decide where you want to go or Sandy Newark with Accenture. It's an
annual decision that gets made each year just like when you set your millillage. It's an annual decision. You set the highest rate now and then you can come down when you set your final rates in in September. Now, what you whatever you set in September, it it is what it is, but you can't go up. You also have a
hardship exemption in here too, right? That um allows for those people who qualify. Again, it's a two-prong test. They have to be they have to the house has to be homesteaded or available for homestead. So it has to be their primary residence and they have to meet whatever
income limits that you guys set um and then they can get it paid on on their behalf. So we can set it at 159 now and then September adjust if need be. Come down. Yes. If you'd like. Yes. And um yeah I
think um Levy County is supposed to be adopting their preliminary rates next Monday. Okay, that works for me. All right, we go to vote. All those in favor say I. I. I. All
those opposed say I. Nay. Just because of the rate. Um the motion carries at 3 to one. Okay. Resolution 2025-70, a resolution of the city city council of the city of Wilston, Florida, approving
the land lease agreement of vacant land between KLP Aeromotive LLC and the airport identified as EL2 authorizing the city council president to execute all necessary documents and
providing an effective date airport manager Benton Steagel. Yes, ma'am. So, uh, what this is is just a a new land lease, um, with a gentleman and his father that are here tonight. Um, they are planning on putting a hanger in on
this. And I know the, uh, the designator, you know, EL2 sounds very cryptic, but it's very simple. Um, this this lease will be on taxiway echo. Um, and it's, you know, identified as spot number two. So, at taxiway echo, lease
number two. Um, so you know, McMillan yelled at me one day and he's like, "We got to start finding better designators than airport lease u if we're going to do this stuff." So, you know, we made a made a funny little cartoon map and we kind of rolled with it. U, but if you're if you're wondering where this is, it's
back with the um, you know, back where the Quanza huts are on the uh, on the airport, you know, the the smaller side just down the road from um, Eagle Vistas and what was formerly Team Tango. Uh, so it'll be across the taxi way right next to the the open hard
stand hard stand six. So on the interior of the taxi way. That is correct. Yes, ma'am. I move approval. Oh, I got to get it. I move approval of resolution 2025-7. Can I get a second?
A second. Any further discussion from the council or the public? No other discussion. We go to vote. All those in favor say I. I. I. All those opposed say I. Motion carries four to
zero. Resolution 2025-71, a resolution of the city council of the city of Wilston, Florida to approve the surplus of ground power unit at the Wilston Regional Airport. Airport
manager Bensteagle. Yes, ma'am. U so when I first came on board at the airport, we had uh GPU problems, ground power unit problems. Um we weren't able to supply external power to aircraft. Um, so we, and I know that sounds very, um, you know, overarching, very high
level, but some of these aircraft need external power to assist in engine starting. Um, and so we bought this unit um, for, you know, around $8,000. It's like a 1970s model unit. Um, but it's it's a pretty cool unit. Um, it's
got an inline 6 Ford motor in it. I mean, it's awesome. Um, however, we've outgrown the need for it. We've replaced it or we've repaired our diesel unit. Um, and we also have an electrical unit that we bought with some grant money a while back. And those two units running fine. We don't need a third. Um, so our
intention is to surplus this unit. Um, and use a the funds to repair one of our tractors that is desperately in need of tires. Can I get a motion? I make a motion we approve resolution
2025-71. I have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Further discussion by the council. I have a question. Is this like on Top Gun Maverick where they're trying to get out of like the blown up runway and they attach it to the machine. They're like, "Yes, it really works."
Pretty much kind of. Yes, ma'am. It like jump starts a jump starter for a plane. Okay, cool. Just want to make sure I knew what I was voting on. Any other comments by the council? Any comments by the
audience? If not, we move we go to vote. All the those in favor say I. I. All those opposed say I. Motion carries 4 Z. Thank you very much. Okay. Item number seven, public
participation. Again, this is just second opportunity for you to address the council at this time. Anyone in the audience can come to the podium and speak for five minutes on any topic that they want to want. Um, please state your name and residence.
Okay. Item number eight, announcements. Any announcements from staff? Yes. Hush Mitten. Um, first I would like to say um, thank
you to everyone for your messages, your warm thoughts and prayers during my difficult time of losing my father. Uh, the flowers were beautiful and your calls and your messages
were well felt. I'm about to cry. So, and Thursday at the her well at the Dr. Shrivever Pavilion, the MLK committee will be celebrating Junth starting at
10:00. I believe Chief Rose is going to be the keynote speaker for that event. So if everybody if anyone's not doing anything Thursday 10 o'clock they the MLK committee are also celebrating Junth
on June 21st at Cornelius Williams Park from 10 to 5. So if you're not doing anything um please visit with them and we won't have a council meeting before
July 3rd. So July 3rd, our parade starts at 5:00. The festivities at Horseman's Park starts at 7:00. Come out, have a good time. Uh pray for these guys that'll be out there in the heat
that day cuz I know it's going to be brutal. And so far, they've been doing a good job preparing for this event. And as you all know that the council cut watermelons.
So schedule your time amongst with me if you like because you don't think you can talk to each other like Kirsten. Hey, we're not going to vote on that. Got watermelon. Yes. So if you get a chance, you know, schedule your time to
come and serve the public, give back to the public. Um, line up for the parade. It's going to be at It starts at 3 o'clock, but I don't think you guys need to be out there that early. Normally, you all meet at what time? 4:30. 4:30 at
the police department to get on the float to for the lineup for the parade. And I think that's all I have. We'll just We'll need a small quiet generator for the
Okay. Utility director's chicken house. Maybe they've got a small quiet one. Oh, they do. Oh, yep. They can spare. Do you want to use it? You're going to get it. They can spare it. That's good. I figured on that particular day, they probably couldn't spare anything. Any
other staff? Mr. Stagle? Uh, yes, ma'am. I just wanted to give you a quick update. Uh the uh alarm for life program that Danny's been overseeing with his smoke detectors through the American Red Cross uh has been very successful. He's been
doing multiple houses a week to the point that we have run out of smoke detectors. Wow. And he has had to order some more. Um given away what two, three cases of them now. Two cases. And uh just an FYI, if you don't have anything going on tomorrow, starting at about
10:30, 11:00, we will begin to burn down the country club. Finally. Finally. That's it. I can come cry. Anyone else in staff? Comments from the announcements from the council
hit, I think. Yes. Um we latrician and I met with two ladies today that are going to be doing it's not a farmers market but a community
market and it will be at Dr. Sweet Dr. Sweet's pavilion and it's from 6:00 to 9 6:00 to 9 on July 3rd. So, it's something new that they uh they've done it in other areas and
they're bringing it to Willist 6 to 900 p.m. on the third. Don't they think they need to wait a week? Uh she thinks that the people that don't go to the fireworks will travel through and probably stop. So she is aware that
we are having a parade and our festivities. Is city manager still on? Does she have any announcements? Go ahead, Sue. Sorry if you could hear me. I apologize. Um, I just wanted to thank the council and everybody for their encouragement
and words of support yesterday. My mother was released from the hospital around noon today. So, she is um recovering at this point. It's going to be a long road for her. Um, they did have to put a bunch of pins in her um humorous, I think is the bone between
your shoulder and your elbow. Um, so she's now the bionic woman, but again, thank you very much for all of your support during this time. I really appreciate it. Thank you. See the attorney anything? All right. Item nine, adjournment. Get
our motion. Okay, I get it. I make a motion we adjourn. Second. I have a motion and a second. We're going to go to vote. No discussion. All in favor say I. I. All oppose say I.
Motion carries four to zero. time.