[Music] I'm ready all right good evening everybody how are you doing this evening good it's a big night lot of lot of kids here all right the date is Tuesday March
4th 2025 the time is now 6: pm. in the city of Williston city council meeting has come to order Mr Right would you call roll please mayor Goodman I am here council president Cox
here vice president Hines here council member Jones here council member Martin here council member ricko she will be late city manager Sue bodette here
attorney Kirsten Belo here city clerk Latricia Wright I am here and all other staff thank you all right we're going to do opening prayer to pledge allegiance to the flag Mr Charles Goodman the
mayor if I fall it's for Old Glory Lord I just come to you tonight Lord I ask you to lift up all the people in this meeting Lord I ask you to be with the council as they make decisions that mean a great deal to each of our
citizens Lord give them the wisdom to make the SI the C's right choice you Lord you have given them the ability you've given them the time and I know Lord they will do as you would have them do and I ask you to bring each person
here tonight when they leave to bring them home safe and Lord I would like to place a special hedge of Prayer over our police officers Lord you can see
it every week hundreds police officers get killed in random situations that the rest of us are not exposed to so I ask you to put a special hedge of protection and prayer
around the police officers in the city of willston amen amen I pledge aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liy and justice for thank you very much all righty thank you item one addition deletion changes and approval of the agenda Mr President I have an addition
to the agenda oh sorry I'm not used to that sorry um it is resolution 20 25-38 uh this is the signing of the contract with Performance Services for the fiber ISP and that would go under uh
item J so item K on the agenda all right thank you anything else yes sir all right I'll take a motion move approval of the agenda with those changes you get a second I second all
right any discussion all right seeing none we're going to move to vote at this time all in favor say i i i 4 Z all right item two is the mayor student of the month it's one of our favorite times of the
month Mr Mayor I want you all to know that I am not a Salesman but have you ever seen these hey dudes I look pretty good Mr h I just found them okay sheesh I don't want to hear it do you
need a chair I don't want to hear it that blinking light in the corner of your eye secrets excuse us a
uhoh my question is do you need a chair we had a little law enforcement Council mayor what you hold on to them okay we okay now we can move
forward okay debony where is that young lady in the beautiful black dress I love your name by the way cool now you got to help me with something here to Mom and Dad how did
you get to spell your name with an H yeah well I'm talking about your mom and your dad I don't know you don't know you weren't there okay well let me tell you something
devony Mrs catch there Mrs McGowan did I pronounce that right and your last name is Ortez Ortiz Ortiz the world is
changing okay but Mrs mwan knows you well she says she says debony is very reliable I can see that consistent and
helpful and friendly and a good student debony tries very hard and she is respectful to all I second this Miss Cento debony is a great student respectful and kind to her peers
it is a pleasure to have deonie in our class I think that's a wonderful tribute to you would you give Deon [Applause]
so any we need to conference fore yeah that's not her she of course she knows Miley Reza he's name challenged sometimes hi Mila I'm Charles what is your last name I can
read it but i' rather oh she is oh my word okay never in that audience all those people around me and everything are staring at you and
that man back there got a picture of us on YouTube in case you want to watch she will work whatever group she is all of [Laughter] that always above and beyond she will
work with whatever group she is part of good gra and is never having Smiley in my class is one of yeah so first of all you know Jesus said first will be
last so mil this is a presentation outstanding student award and Ed You by me Charles good May and this is award to
certified for academic Excellence leadership citizenship and iy we'd like to present you this outstanding stent presented by
Charles the mayor of the city of wi Florida and this is to certify that eony Ortiz Ortez orto uh is awarded the certificate for
academic Excellence leadership citizenship and attendance are you do in the same grade are you in the same class you got exactly the same
word that's because what's certificate that last thingi Hadi award [Applause] because this is the
time I get asked one question that I always love to ask you like pizza do you like piz one day I to find a child says no you one day I was just I'm waiting for
it it would show it would you be would be an act of sueme self except shut it's Shogun not pizza what did I
say sh doesn't have pizza we [Laughter] that's oh my Lord thank you [Applause]
ladies all right you all are welcome to to stay for the meeting which might end about 10 who knows or you can make a run for it if you'd like thank you all for coming
was a good baby oh I didn't even know there was a baby in there bye you have a good evening yes all right item three is public participation this is your first of two
opportunities to address the council at this time anybody in the audience can come to the podium and speak for 5 minutes on any topic other than what is on the agenda anybody come up want to speak
jaie over there all right just to let you know that the council does not have to reply to you okay the council doesn't have to reply because it's public thing welcome please state your
name and where you're from please good evening jacan aing um I'm back um so it's good to be back good to see everyone I just have a few things that um really asking for updates um for those of you that were here for the past
weekend the parade and the queen Mitchell event that they had was awesome and I said it had to be with everyone in their help to make that happen so I'm here to do to ask for an update on The KES William Park that event was there I'm just trying to get back on board I've been out for a while just getting
update on the park as to where we are because we're softball season is coming it's starting and we would like to get the field clean out there so that we're able to have some games um out there um I've asked for permission already we have the equipment ready to
go in we just have to be have the gate unlocked and be able to get in with my dad's equipment in order to clear the softball field so that's the field we're looking at trying to get um cleaned and ready for softball which will be starting probably with in a month or so
but then yeah some schools have started or some places have started already so we like to get out there we have volunteers that want to help we have students that need volunteer hours so we're hoping to um be able to utilize that so that's one update the next
update will be just the speed I've talked with a couple people about the speed concerned out near the laundry mat across the railroad track and I have a couple people working with me on that so I'm hoping that I can get an update on um the speed concern that's out um near
the laundry mat and I think those are the two areas that um I'm just trying to get some updates from anyone that can give me an update on those two areas Mr Bishop far as the gate as soon as you tell me you're ready to go out there we'll make sure the gate's open not a
problem as far as the speed I'm still talking with the state and Joe uh Wayne over at the school board and we're moving forward but we don't have no resolutions at this time but we're still working on it m Jones Thank you Mr President I can give an update on the Cornelius Williams
Park improvements um we do have to go to the county and ask for a zoning change so that we are allowed to do the use um right now we're not allowed to be doing what we're doing out there so we're going to ask for a zoning change it's going to take a couple months but it's
not going to stop anything we have um Walt I think he's almost ready to bid out the project for um moving dirt and then we also have that that second grant that we got for the Gazebo so we'll be putting that out for you know a pavilion
so we'll be putting that out to bid probably in the next two months or so so there's plenty of time to play softball I'm trying to keep Latricia up to date on when it may not be a great time to be out there anymore but softball should be
able to go am I right Walt soft Fall's good okay okay thank you please Chief Rose as far as the speeding go in that area uh if you've been that in that area lately I have a sign out there that says slow
down 35 miles hour and I've also staged a police vehicle out there to slow people down when they enter the city of Williston yes okay that's that's my first warning my second warning would be a ticket okay thank you sir okay thank you
daone for those updates thank you thank you ma'am welcome back so Laura um you said that you had to go to the council and do some resoning because we were doing things out there we weren't supposed to yeah the use elaborate on that yes ma'am the use out there um the
zoning isn't proper for the count it's in the county remember so the the zoning isn't proper for the use and since we're going to be asking for permits and stuff it's time for us to go ahead and fix that um so for recreation it's not the proper zoning I believe
it's commercial commercial zoning w we talk please state your name and where you from Sir Walt nickel with right pierce the engineers um the zoning there is industrial industrial and so it's
owned by the city in the county but it's industrial and so now that we're going for changes they won't approve the changes because it's not a permitted use under industrial so we want want to get it re re um rezoned to
Recreation but they have to redefine their code for recreation uh the County's zoning code for recreation is really more for a Nature Park um not a Recreational Sports Park
the density what we're doing the improvements what we're doing don't fit so they're trying to redefine that at the county what that is to allow the park to go I mean they have a 10% maximum impervious area well that's great if you're doing walking trails in
a Nature Park this is a sports complex we've got a lot of different things there and so they're redefining that at the same time when we go for a zoning change so that's right now in the County's Court to get that changed so
that we can go forward with the proposed Cornelio winess Park okay question do they have anything that has a public zoning that might be more appropriate the the only thing that we saw when we
met and again we've got new people at the county but we met with uh Stephanie there it was a recreation it wasn't a perfect fit that was the closest that they had okay unfortunately yeah we the engineers and the planner and um this is
what we we came up with so the new planner yes ma'am and the engineer he was the first one that's to to stop everything for the 10% um non-permeable okay so we're going to
call it a sports park instead of just park for the citizens to enjoy no ma'am um it's been a sports park in your comp plan for at least over a decade so we're not changing anything we're just doing the park as it was planned I mean it's soccer fields a baseball it's a sports
complex for many years okay well I was talked with some of the people who were part of it and they said initially it wasn't supposed to be a sports part no it's been a SP since I started I'll get with you later thanks that way good yeah yes the plan
that you're talking about I'm sure there's a number of people in here that have not seen it how can regular citizens put their eyes on that plan um I believe Laura has some Laura has some graphics on that now the color Graphics
that you have in your office we had we did some changing of the parking lot in the pond we're updating that as part of your Park master plan right now so actually that'll be updated this week okay but yeah so you'll have that okay what I guess I'm asking then is how can
regular citizens get access to it Laura because we should have a p you know we're spending all their tax dollars on this they should be a pile of things just you know print off 15 and 20 and see the interest give people a chance to look at what we're doing with their
money yeah I think at one time when you had poster boards in in the lobby we had them posted out there too that one is there in the lobby or in no in the lobby right here we can we get Aon to um run one through the copy machine and put it on Facebook or on our website when we
have the new one we'll we'll we'll put it out in public excellent idea that's all I'm asking is try to get it out to the citizens okay and just to clarify it is a grant I I I know it's still citizens money but it's a grant from the state of
Florida I I would like to see the grant as well okay the the grant paperwork yeah she wants a copy of the Grant I can email it to you okay yeah if
you will send it to all of us sure then while everybody's yeah okay good all right that want thank you sir anybody else all right item four cassen agenda these are
the council minutes from February 18th 2025 can I get a motion to approve I move approval of the consent agenda we have a first we get do we have a second you're good
second no we're approve and leave consent yeah I'll second all right we got a first got a second any discussions or anything hang on one second you're so good much more [Applause]
we just got to make sure we don't yet need to clean it anyway right y we have a motion in a second any discussion no all right seeing none move to vote all in favor say I I I those
oppose all right motion approved all right all right staff updates city manager Sue BAU thank you very much uh quick updates
uh so last week I shadowed uh outgoing city manager Terry pavard till 1:00 on Friday when he departed um and uh you know just kind of taking it all in at this point thank you I also
on uh Saturday attended um the parade and uh the um ceremony where we pres presented the key to the city to um Quan Mitchell which was fantastic and then yesterday Latricia invited me to a women's club meeting so I've been trying
to get out there and you know do what I can um today president Cox and I attended the U Municipal meeting at Levy County so we can hear what's going on with the other municipalities and then let them know what's going on in the city of Williston so just trying to get caught up and you know get as much
information as I can in my in my brain so I appreciate everybody's help in and getting me uh up to speed so that's all I got you're welcome aboard thank staff police chief rolls on our previous meeting we uh
approved to buy the dart firearm simulator I am pleased to report that we were supposed to get it the end of March they've called and we will be picking up the system tomorrow so I'm I'm happy to uh bring that training too to the city
of willston and the police department uh the event as many have spoken about for quinon uh went off and ended very well we had one little minor little cat fight uh that was it the community jumped in and said get it out
of here you're not ruining our event which was very pleasing to me that the community was that concerned that they didn't want that type of stuff to destroy the moment that we were having it other than that the event was absolutely phenomenal had no problems at
5:00 when we shut down people slowly started to migrate out and and everything went very well so thanks to uh the city crew that was out there that help with the cones Miss Hines did a great job with the MCN of the event on
short notice thank you uh the mayor presented the key uh did an outstanding job with that so everything went well um fact some time ago at one of our previous meetings I informed you all that I had put in for $25,000 Grant to buy new computers for
our cars uh it has been pending for a long time and then we had our change in president they put a freeze on all the federal grants uh I'm pleased to announce that our application has moved from under review to pending so it means
we're getting closer so I just want to bring that to yall attention and give you an update on it that's all I have thank you thank you sir yes sir any other staff yes sir just want to give everybody a heads up uh March 15th the fire department will be conducting a training burn at the Williston Golf and
Country Club we're going to uh put the old Clubhouse in the dirt do I get to come watch and cry yes ma'am you're more than welcome been a lot of there as a kid the pool's still full of water if you want to go for a swim it is probably green as can be it's a little green but you're
welcome all right anybody else on staff no I got one more thing I'm sorry all right sir I'm sorry um I know you watched the news lately and you've seen uh the results of the hire we had here in
willston um through great teamw work with uh Williston Police Department ly County Sheriff office and the state attorney's office uh we were able to successfully get a conviction uh on that sub subject um correct me if I'm wrong
Pastor balls it was life in prison life in prison so uh that is one murder case that we had that is now closed so thank you sir condolences to the families okay counsel no I is this the right place to talk
about the top of the hill again which top right or left the pesos pesos old place um I guess what I'd like to do is ask permission for us to ask our attorney to write an rmp we've already begun that you asked
us to work on it it's almost done I did we hope to present it within a month that's wonderful I had not heard that update thanks Mr Barber yooo all right any other Council so I just want to say again
reiterate what everybody has said that um the parade went off very very well and I want to again thank everybody who played a par and making it a success especially Miss Latricia wri thank you
for your hard work yes thank you ma'am all right Mr Mayor I have nothing nope okay can all right new business item
six presentation by Amy zubay restoring community's [Music] award mayor and council members am I on my good all right good good evening and thank you so much for having me here
today I'm Amy Zub the executive director of the Florida Municipal Electric Association which is the Statewide trade Association that represents Florida's 33 municipally owned or Public Power communities like the city of Williston um before I get to the presentation I do
want to recognize council president Cox and Jonathan Bishop from Public Works um um one of the many f me roles and responsibilities is that of advocacy both at the state and the federal levels and last week uh Mr Cox and Mr Bishop
joined FMEA in Washington DC for our National Association the American public power association's legislative rally um we met with many members of Congress we had about 15 of Our member utilities there including Williston and we met with many members of Florida's
delegation including congresswoman kamik to talk about several issues were important to Florida's Public Power communities like continuing our ability to use tax exempt municipal bonds and FEMA reform to try to help expedite some of our reimbursement process um it's so
important for members of Congress to hear from their local constituents so I just wanted to thank councilman Cox and Jonathan for being there and joining that and advocating on behalf of you all um I know I'm on the agenda to present your great city with a restoring communities award but since we arranged
that um you all and now have two awards from FMEA so if it's okay I'd like to present them both together yes ma'am okay so in addition to advocacy one of fmea's other primary roles and responsibilities is that of mutual Aid coordination and emergency response
coordination so we bring in all of those extra Crews and and a hurricane or a bad storm when we need a little bit of extra help and every year FMEA Awards deserving member utilities with its restoring communities award which recognizes Public Power utilities for
their exemplary power restoration efforts to their communities and for providing or receiving Mutual Aid following significant weather events or when of fellow Public Power communities were in need of extra assistance so being able to Ward Our member utilities
for the excellent work they do is one of the favorite things about my job and the City of Willison is certainly deserving of this award 2024 was quite an impactful year for Florida with hurricanes um and I know that the city of Rison receives substantial impacts
both from Hurricane Debbie and from Hurricane Helen and thanks to the efforts of Jonathan and Mike and the entire electric utility you all were prepared for the worst but you did an exemplary job working tirelessly around the clock to restore power to all of
your customers quickly and safely and that is certainly a reason worth celebrating and so in addition to the restoring communities award which I have here just this past weekend at fmea's Florida's lineman competition which was
held in Okala FMEA recognized 17 of Our member utilities with our safety award which recognizes and Rewards member utilities for safe operations and work environments and having a culture of safety because that's so critically important particularly in electric
utilities utilities are placed into categories based on their total worker hours and rewarded for the most incident-free records the incident rate that is used to judge utilities is based on the number of work-related reportable injuries or illnesses compared to the
total number of worker hours during 2024 as defined by the occupational safety and health administration or OSHA so I'm pleased to recognize the city of Williston for a perfect record in safety in their category so congratulations to
the city of williston's electric utility for your excellent work and to the entire Willison Community for having such a great electric utility yeah there behind two Awards here for you okay I can present them to you Mr President Mr Mayor to Jonathan however you would like
this and there's Cruise behind you too those two gentlemen right there are yeah the crew is actually behind you I don't know if you can see them could you guys come on up come guys round for pictures and you two have to
[Laughter] squat I'm getting well you are short yeah they make you look short don't they there you go [Music] they look good their shirts too y'all PL
[Music] [Applause] Shar thank you Miss Amy all righty Item B discussion with possible action reduction of leans on
the wayar Inc property attorney Doug McCoy hello everyone I'm Doug McCoy I'm an attorney over in Bronson and in Trenton and I represent Miss Rainey Jackson uh as she acts as a personal representative of her mother's estate Maryann Denise
Jackson and I've yeah you're looking at a packet that I've provided uh for folks maybe we're getting the packet twice but possibly this is this our packet I oh okay something else there's another green folder there with basically what I
want to talk about this is uh wayar of Williston Incorporated and the um oh yeah your part very good picture um the the the property was bought by the Jackson family in the early 1970s
Rainey came here with her father Wayne and her mother Maryanne from Miami Wayne had sold a service station down there came to Williston found the property formed the corporation started to run it he was
working uh at the gas station but also at willston High School uh he was shop teacher at the high school I don't know if anybody's been here long enough to remember that um but um and then unfortunately he died in a tragic accident with the railroad with the
train automobile accident and so that was made of 1975 and so Rainey was about 15 years old something like that in high school her mother had been a homemaker didn't have the wherewithal really to keep it going in the same manner that her father
would have um tried to you know get some other mechanics to come in there and do what was needed long story short the corporation was administratively dissolved in 1976 so then it became you know whatever
it could be they rented it out I think Bill's Tire was even there for a little while before he moved down the way um time went on uh nothing ever really happened in the early 80s uh the D depart Department of
Environmental Protection or maybe it was a predecessor of that agency came along and says hey we got to pull the gas tanks out they didn't have the wherewithal financially to put new tanks back in under all the new codes so it was discontinued as a service station
and became very much what you see today although some you know tire changing and mechanical things were attempted in there for a while um so move it forward to the early 2000s the uh State started to have its
protocol for discovering contaminated soils at Old stations and things like that they discovered some contamination there and they enlisted it in a program that was going to help remediate that but with that comes a lot of continual
testing and things like that um not too long after that I don't know when exactly but but in those days the city didn't have a code enforcement regimen like you do now and so uh by then the thing had been vacant for a good long
time you guys came in with your code enforcement uh regimen and um quite a large uh amount of Code Enforcement leans have accured against the property there's no doubt about that um you
know the point is and I'm not here asking for for pity for Rainey or her family but I am asking for mercy and sometimes the two seem pretty similar but they never really once it was known what was going on and they had a chance
to do something they didn't have the financial wherewithal to do anything with it so finally Miss Jackson died in 2023 Rainey comes to me to do the probate of her estate the probate looks relatively straightforward in many
respects except she owns 50% of a corporation that's been dissolved since 1976 the other 50% is owned by her deceased husband who was died in 1975 we went to the first we thought we had to open a probate for him but we
finally found that he had one in 1978 Unfortunately they didn't distribute the 50% of the corporation when they could have we had to reopen that old probate so we did um now at this point sometime
a year or so ago Rainey came to you guys and Joel Martin was with Rainey I believe or or Joel's Joel's part of this let me explain Joel's here in town Joel and some people with some Financial wherewithal and with some capability are under contract to buy this from Rainey
from the estate as soon as I can get the title cleared so that that sale can be made and so at that point you guys inform Randy what she needed to do she needed to clean it up she needed to keep it moded she needed to do you know your
list I think here's where I didn't communicate really well with her and I take some responsibility for this I didn't realize how long it was going to take to get to this point with her father's probate her mother's probate the dissolve Corporation the transfer of the stock um so it's it's taken a while
and and and we grant you that during that period of time um you know she was unable financially to keep it up to the standards that you guys require and so we're here to just ask for a substantial
reduction in these code enforcement leans Joel represents a group that will do something good with it and I'm going to surrender the floor to him if you would like to hear from him about some plans for the property or whatever but Rainey and her brother Shane are the
only beneficiaries of both their mother and father's estate they need every penny they can get they both live in the same home out on some acreage right across from little food Ranch across 121 right out there in their mother's
home they really need two homesteads they've got children and grandchildren and so I'm not here um asking you to you know jeopardize the city Budget on behalf of somebody that hadn't been here a long time been good citizens of this
place do their part and uh and really do need for this sale to bring them a a little bit this is the last Nest Egg the last and there we're we are 6 years old or so I know how old some of you guys
are too I went to school with some of our people here once you have only one little chunk left you really need to be able to do the thing that you need to do so that's that's why we're here asking for Mercy I'll explain any of the legal
part of it uh if you like um and and Rainey and Joel are available but but we would love to see that number come way down let's get it sold I've got a contract and all I need to do now is get Shane her brother to sign one consent the
judge is going to appoint her as a special Trustee of the dissolved Corporation and that's the pleading that you see in my green folder is that pleading I have you know the confirmation that it will be signed and we should get it closed by the end of
the month and um then at that point it'll be Joel and his group and they'll take off and I'm sure you know make something happen over there okay now it's been cleared through the EPA it's soil there's no issues it's not cleared
it is in their program and it is not going to be an expenditure on the part of the new owner per se okay so there's but they've got to do the reporting stay in the program continue to have it
administered and there will be certain things that would not be allowed to go there I'm certain you know that there will be some some restrictions that they would have okay anyone Council got some questions I guess I would like to hear
from Kirsten her thoughts well I sort of 10,000 foot view you will have the authority if you choose you may decide to reduce the lean by some amount you may decide to reduce the lean all
the way um that is completely within or or decide not to reduce the lean so all of that is completely within your authority to do um the process that was just explained by U Mr McCoy is pretty standard I say standard it's not
atypical in probate cases um to see something like this happen um where a defunct Corporation or some piece of property that's unknown isn't necessarily dealt with in a probate as it should have been so you have to go back and it really does take an
exceptional amount of time um to do that longer than I think anyone thinks it should actually take um as far as the uh code enforcement status of the property um you all did site this property for
code enforcement issues it has been occurring leans it has not been placed in compliance to the point where it can be taken off the leans um so they do continue to acrw is my understanding as well okay I'm getting nods from Laura so that's correct um so every day that goes
by this continues to ACR lean um and obviously the amount goes up uh until either the lean's paid off or the property comes into compliance so I'm I'm happy to answer any other
questions that you have for me I I will flag for you that I'm not Mr McQuay I'm not 100% sure and I could have just not understood it in your presentation I apologize um but what is the status of the contract for
sale it I did not put the extension in there but we do have an extension so we still are under contract uh until April 15th but we're planning on closing by the end of this month um the version you have there is is out of date but uh but
we we're still on board okay buyer still on board and that's Mr Martin yes may I ask how much the lean that is on the property as of roughly today is fine so yes sir you
may and let's ask one of your people that if we can $173,200 I've been isolated I can't uh 10 what
,000 because they didn't keep the yard clean no not quite not not that simple more than that a little yeah to my to my recollection when when Miss Jackson came to begin with um we did look at the
property and I can tell you that we we I'll say we but I'm I'm talking about the board of adjustments and code enforcement referred it to us for actually I don't think foreclosure is the right word but taking uh we actually
thought about taking it but because it was under the D monitoring well we decided we didn't want we didn't want it we didn't want it you're not alone in that oh we would have already taken it like we did the property at the top of the hill um me interrup my mom tried
it get you come that has nothing to do with what I'm saying let me finish my sentence yeah please state your name and where you're from please my name is Ry Jackson I'm the daughter of Maryann Jackson the woman who and my father who owned it Wayne Jackson um she tried to
sell it but she couldn't find a realtor who would sell it because of it going under the state program because they were afraid that it would get transferred if something were to come up about the finds the the findings on the prop it would have that's why we didn't
want it so that's why I had she had problems selling it cuz she couldn't get a cookie had it for years but what that's not what I'm trying to say at the end of my sent here I'm sorry I'm sorry uh what I'm trying to say is we could have taken it would have taken it
because of the our our policy is to certain percentage of the fair market value of the property and then we proceed with processing that lean to foreclosure and I don't know if foreclosure is the right word um but taking of the property
but the reason we didn't was because of the uh DP status of it and at that point what we told Miss Jackson to do was go clean up the property and when she got it back in Code Compliance
we would consider reducing the lean so that she could sell it and I can tell you the pictures that we've just been presented with today um it's now grass is sort of moded in the front but all the rest of this I is not I'm not going
to argue with you about that I have don't normally reduce fines until it is in compliance okay and that's just Deborah sitting here I I don't know what any how anybody else feels so one of the things to keep in mind when you talk
about and and I'm just giving you all the information that you need the decision is ultimately up to you all uh just keep in mind that if so the process that uh council member Jones was just talking about is is really A four
closure on a municipal lean that's what we did at what we call the top of the hill property with um with peso so the viability of foreclosing on in the event that we say okay fine is reduced to zero there's a transfer made and then
the property stays in the same condition you'd have to restart occurring your fine um in order to have a a really reasonable reason to go to a foreclosure and and uh obtain the property or else sell it to someone who will put it in place so that's that's the only thing
that I I want to keep in mind is that it's not riskless there is some amount of risk to you because you will need to sort of wait for that fine to acre to a level where it makes sense to take it to a code enforcement um foreclosure yeah yeah I will also say that another thing
that we have done in the past um the old Windixie property that's now Homestead Park we had a buyer for it it sat as it sat and it its fines were like over a quarter of a million dollars um because it's sat there for years as well and we
Mr Martin came in um Mr Martin listen to me uh huh yeah thank you came in and said that he wanted to buy the property and it had those huge loans on it leans on it and what we said was we will reduce
them if you clean up the property so that's another thing that we could do we could we gave them so many period a certain period of time to clean it up and at when we saw that it was clean then we reduced them approximately how much longer do
you maybe anticipate that you will before this is complete I would hope that we would conclude the estate before April 15th because this is the very last thing that needs to happen
at least before May 15th anyway the problem is without putting this money from the sale into the estate we really don't have the wherewithal to complete the estate so we have an asset we need to convert that into cash
so that it can be put in the estate and then divided Out Among the beneficiaries and so without an a stopple letter from the city saying this much or or or one some sort of waiver we really need to close before based on a number to ACC
accomplish what we need in the probate court so basically I kind of look at it as two ways here we can either do what you said and do the way that Matt crle did it or we recoup attorney fees some administrative frees from the city then
we have a piece of property that's going to be taken care of it's going to be cleaned and and you're right Mr crle did pay all that he did pay the the legal fees and the attorney fees and uh you know the gentleman there that's uh
Mr Martin Mr Martin you know if he's got a group that's going to get it cleaned up do you have sorry anticipation of when you want to come to the mic please clean that place in a week um I spent my own I went down there my
tractor a few times this past summer and mowed it several times about every two to three weeks but we didn't want to get too in depth that we weren't going to be able to help her out with the the money situation cuz it wasn't worth it for her but as soon as we get the green light on this thing we plan on coming in here and
resurrecting the hole that whole area not just that but the lot next to it all those trees the mangr from from one survey Mark to the other where you going to clean it out what we like to do with the old gas station is to keep it and Rehab it into an old gas station you
modernize it of course because it's going to need everything it needs a roof it needs pretty much anything Lefty the walls and the foundation I've talked to the EPA people quite often they're putting up a mobile trailer on the side which will start sucking the air out it'll have to be there for probably
about a year but everything's clean there is no contamination underneath the ground um so once this cuz I at first ask if they can move it back a little bit it's kind of in our way you know cuz we want to redo the building and everything but it needs it needs a lot but um I bought the old property across
the street there in 2018 we kind of rehabed it it's taking a lot you know these are these are old buildings around here you know old wiring old everything pluming it's a constant thing I was up on the roof yesterday trying to fix roof Carlson come over thought I was going to fall
off there what typically happens back there in the back but not quite but anyway uh that's what we like to do with it and we have as soon as we get the green light we'll be on it ksten what typically happens when a
property is to be sold and there are leans does the person that's buying it typically pay the leans it depends on the contract that you have so if a lot of contracts will say something like um
buyer is taking possession of the property subject to all leans that are recorded um but in this case it seems like that's that's not what we're looking at they have it looks like an arrangement where the seller is going to be the individual who pays for the lean
whatever the reduced amount is and that's subject to um obviously a couple of other things in the contract so the way that they have it put together is that the seller will be responsible please correct me if I read your contract wrong no we that's correct we are hoping that you would give us an
aole letter or a payoff statement if there's a number we would love to for it not to be a number that'd be wonderful but if there is a number then it would be like paying off a bank mortgage or something at closing you would get a check from the closing agent and title would not pass until you had been paid
according to whatever your number was um and so hopefully what we're saying is yes it is coming out of the seller's money I don't have the authority obviously I don't represent the buyers but you know I I whatever level of confidence in what they're going to do I
would certainly try to mediate facilitate get communication going or whatever um we just kind of need it to happen relatively quickly if we're not going to be able to achieve a number that that's that's doable for these folks then that going forward phase that you're talking
about about not committing until you know what the future holds that would take a little bit more um communication cooperation on the buyer side that you know if we must we'll try but but I can't just say how that would go may I ask other than
zero may I ask who you do represent if you don't represent the buyer do you represent the seller I represent Miss Jackson as personal representative of her mother's estate so yes the S so other than oh sorry I didn't know you had another question other than zero
what number is your client looking [Music] for I'd like to sell the property and see something done to the property that
it improves it for the city of Willison I've lived here a long time see some kind of improvement Joel's presented a ideals for me that is in my range and I'm not going to get rich off of selling
this piece property by no means even if there was no fine at all because because it of all the issues with the property because of what he would have to do or anybody that would went in there and either cleared it or whatever
and had the EPA and everybody in there so but yeah if I might we would hope to estimate the real cost to the city and maybe reimburse that not the punitive
cost of the you know and I understand why you have a bit of a punitive aspect to your code lean so that people will get out there and do it but there's got to be a relatively no low number of real true costs to the city and I would think around $5,000 typically would cover it
from from my experience that's why I just threw out a number but I'm just thinking you know if something in the in the real range you guys have done some inspection some other things but not actually maintained it and that kind of
thing I don't think and so if we could get out a number we would hope it would be in that range Mike I can I step in yes ma'am um and I would love to see this property I drive past it all the time I'd love to see it fixed up but my question is if we just say let's reduce
these fines to what it cost the city what is what are the point of our ordinances you know if if we if the if everybody comes in and says well I couldn't get to it I couldn't get to it and I'm sorry to be the bad guy here but I think we have to treat every citizen fairly and we can't go and say to one citizen you have to pay this fine and
then the next citizen you don't have to pay this fine and I know there's been a precedent in the past of forgiving and I disagree with that precedent and I think that unfortunately that needs to be changed I'm not saying that we need to hold out for every penny on this one but I think saying that well they just
didn't get to it and they didn't have time and and you know all these years and no efforts you know very little efforts been made to deal with it I think then we might as well just throw our ordinances out the window and say why bother because what's the point if we're
just going to forgive when people don't follow the ordinances inside the city and I know our crews have made three or four dump runs maybe even more than that I know they've taken mattresses other things to the to the dump I don't know how many times but two or three that I know of that we've asked
them to do it because it looks so bad and we got complaints and my question to Kirsten is how much is that actual cost I know we had leans that we filed we had court costs we had um any any CK of the
court cost what what else do we have sitting here today I do not I do not know um I mean I imagine that it's the cost of whatever work that the city has done which I wouldn't be able to estimate um I don't think that we've had any costs other than the recording of
the lean just fairly right um low cost um they're on contract by the way so that's why it's no other cost um there's an administrative fee that you all charge which is about $250 I believe um
which covers your staff time to put together the code enforcement generally speaking um but how much time I I I know I haven't spent a ton of time on it outside of our meetings and maybe a a quick conversation with Laura here and there so the legal fees aren't going to
be particularly High um I'm trying to think of any other actual cost that the city may have incurred you think 5,000 would cover it 5,000 would definitely cover for at
least generally how much work I I think I've done and the work that I know has been done but I'm I have no concept of how much work your other staff members have done on this so I I really don't want to speak to that it would C it would definitely cover more than cover what I've put into it much you're
aware of how how would this sorry did you you had a question I didn't all right you got um so since you came before us was it last year it's been a good year yes ma'am okay um um how much have you put towards these leans how
much have you paid to towards the amount of the leans she's paid a lot for the probate for my services and those things she's been she's been bleeding money for a while so again the question is how
much have you put towards your leans I have not and I understand that I I didn't when I came to y'all I came to ask questions to find out information and to
get with my attorney it has been a wrong Hard Road for you the city of Williston with my mother she was getting Dementia in the back end and hard to work with I'm not trying to make excuses for her
she left me in a bad situation with all the stuff she left me with and I'm just I'm trying to clean up and fix I had so much Insurance when she passed away between burying her paying for the attorney and others issues that she did
not take care of properly which I'd have lost all this property if I had not taken care of is all gone I mean I did not get to everything that I needed to and everything else is in Probate at this
time so that answers your question no I have not paid any F and I but nobody I guess I should have been more adamant about I don't know that we've ever asked people to pay FES until the very end I don't know that we have I don't think we
have a provision to even collect them Miss B we could but we haven't go ahead how would this impact our other properties that we have leans going forth so your ordinances
allow you all um complete discretion right regarding waiver of of leans so it I mean you could decide we want to do this for everyone or you could decide this is a special case based on these circumstances and it doesn't apply to everyone so that's absolutely within your discretion
okay you have something um you're next Mr Mayor I'm just kind of like with with meriff I mean I've been on this Council a couple of years and um um almost everybody that comes forward looking for
us to decrease leans we decrease Lans and it's like what's the purpose we're looking at yes the um attorney fees may not calculate up to $5,000 but we're looking
at years years that are you can't hear me sorry years that um staff has had to go and do different things um related to that property you know so just to drop it down to $5,000 I don't I don't think
is is right and um it sounds as though we are going to drop the lean so that they'll have money at the end to divide amongst each other um so I think we just need to think about
that because I I believe there have been people um within the city who we were getting ready to foreclose on and they had to pay all of their leans at once before we dropped it so um we just need
to be mindful mindful one of the money and our policies and then mindful of too of the look Miss Jones okay I have a couple things I want to say um I think that the council's not
wrong that if we continue to do this it's kind of you know what's the point of our ordinances um but I do have to say as your community development person um this is blight and we have an opportunity here to get rid of some
blight we also are penalizing somebody for um 11 years of leans when she didn't have this property until 2 years ago so it really wasn't her responsibility it was her mother's who's now passed and I believe the presedent and
I'm I'm I want to I want to do this because we're going to have more of these um they we have more coming in the next few weeks actually and I just want to make sure that we do the same thing for everybody um I believe with Matt Crandle and I don't remember Deborah you have a better memory I believe we did
10% for Matt Crandle um and I believe his his lean was 80 so many years to clean it up and he also had um a commitment to the city to clean it up within 12 months and do something with that I know some people are going to be
you know mad at me on either side whatever I say but let's just remember that this is blight and the entire 11 years was not necessarily the the people who are responsible for it now's responsibility so take those things into
consideration and I see people shaking their head so I going to sit down Mr Mayor did you have anything yes thank you Miss Jones but I have a couple of questions and they're not for you so you
can relax did haven't we already set a presedent I know your position but we've done this more than once where we have reduce fines and and almost every time it was for what Miss Jones put out was
okay we can not reduce this fine it doesn't get sold and we're stuck with the blight what a wonderful word and and that's what we're we're stuck with the other option is if we get it so
it can be sold is the property around it in the city yes will they be paying city taxes where you're building sir yes I don't know where this property is on 27 going east go across the railroad track and it's
right there on the right gas is that still the city of willingston okay that's all I care so that's my point you can have blight if you can work it out and we have done it in the past and if
you uh choose use the narrow view and say we can't have this we can't the only reason you're doing this is because there is a positive future for gaining money for the city of Williston to do
its per his projects so that's I just wanted to make sure everybody thinks about all the possibilities and good luck Mr Barber or Mr Bishop how much time do you think the city has
spent to kind of help clean that up uh honestly it'd be a guess I'd say 40 to 60 hours that's just a guess I don't have a I don't have a wrote down timeline for it okay all right okay Council
Mr barbar you have anything you'd like to yeah we can discuss microphone I said what do we do do we make a motion or we figure what to make a motion for motion for 10,000 to reduce the leans to
$110,000 that's a motion that's my motion all right we have a motion I'll second the motion all right we have first we got a second any other discussions no seeing none we'll move to vote all in favor say I
I those oppose I so it's two to three two to three I don't know what that was two to three which way for the days who were who were the
yes not me okay was it you Mr President I guess it was Mr Cox I was I didn't hear his vote okay no he said no could you please define the vote okay
those who said I was Miss Jones I know I'm watching hands okay and the nose were you two that's three and so that's three NOS
yes three oh said I said no I thought you were I didn't hear him say no but he did so the motion then is shot down yeah okay so now we need to another motion you're not going to like this one any better I move that we reduce the
fins to $5,000 second we have a first we got a second any discussion that discussion is exactly what's been said um we need to get it back on the tax rolls and it it is on the tax rolls but it's blighted if you look at it if they're only charging
for bled not for a viable piece of property and if Mr Martin is willing to make it viable clean it up it's an entry it's a gateway to the city of Willis it needs to be clean and I believe that he will do that I agree that it needs to be clean
but we have reduced it now to probably about 90 95% of what is owed that's not acceptable to me um and and I understand that you
know selling it and getting it to a level that they'll have money to separate amongst themselves I get it I understand but it shouldn't be at the cost of the city um but our estimated cost sounds
like it's only been around $5,000 so it's not really at the cost of the city 11 years 40 hours I mean that Mone that money is I'm just saying I mean I'm I'm just saying we're talking about calculating yeah I I would agree
with reducing it but not 5 or 10,000 but if if she cleaned up everything well this could be me not knowing what I'm talking about but if everything was cleaned up up to code the lean would
become zero right or no it would just stop justes stop acre more correct okay jooby state your name where you from I'm Joel Penny I live in Willison Florida is there a way that I'm jebby Penny I live
in Willison Florida is there way that y'all could wash away from what her previous mother debt was and then just calculated what she owes for the past two years and then she pay it and then be done I actually attempted to do that
sitting over here okay um and at $50 a day for a year in my book should be like 20,000 I that's $8,250 I think that's a fair so I mean if if and that's for one year and that's when she came that's
when she came to see us so 18,000 for this one year years 18, 550 250 two for the two years that she has owned it that she has been responsible for it I would be comfortable with that I don't know
that she knew about the fines until the year she came which was a year ago but but she knew that it needed to be cleaned out oh yeah she definitely did so whether that I mean we're discounting the fines prior to that so she knew that there were that it needed to be cleaned up from so you're talking 365 is what
you're talking Mr McCoy well if I might too at no time has she had a clear title to the piece of property so at no time has she really understood that she was going to see some light at the end of the tunnel here on recovery of anything
and honestly she lives within her means which are not a lot so it's it's really not been one of those things that has been obstinance on her part or you know uh any kind of of negativity or any kind
of attitude it has simply really truly been a matter of her working within a very small budget and never getting to the point that that that was and she thought along the way too just like in the last years of her mother's life I mean cookie King had it for a while
trying to to look into you know getting it sold and it just has been a a piece of property you know with an albatross over it and so no one has wanted it and so finally I guess things have finally matured everybody's gotten comfortable with what D is doing over there uh at
least uh Joel and his group and so it just took a long time for it to ever become anything except just a dead zone that it was for all those years and we're finally there maybe okay I make a motion that we decrease we have a we have a motion on the floor oh what was
it 5,000 5,000 Oh I thought it was gone okay all right so I don't Alexa second Alex okay so let's vote second all right any other discussion no
seeing that move to vote all in favor say I I those oppose I I all right two to three I make motion 15,000 that will cover our legal fees
that'll cover admin some of the administrative you need to pass your G if you to make a motion you can't make a mo you cannot make a motion you pass your G I make a motion I make a motion 15,000 that covers our attorney fees
that covers um you know the staff cleaning it up to I have a second second we have a first and a second we have a first and a second um all
right is there any other discussion seeing none seeing none I move to vote all in favor say I I I jesus all opposed say no no
no we have 3 to one uh 3 to two and the eyes have it could I please know who said yes thank you thank you can we get an aole letter
um to give to the closing agent um referencing that and then we'll provide that to the closing agent and uh assuming and I can't guarantee uh everything but assuming that we do go forward with a closing uh we will uh we
will have a check cut to the city of Wilston um I know each closing agent is different would it be possible for um something to be sent over to me and I'll take a review absolutely thank you can you see my card on the green folder
there if you could shoot me an email so that I know where to send it um absolutely yeah I'll I'll email it to you that'd be great perfect do you need a motion for the oop letter um no it's administrative to got it follow through Mr President yes sir thank you so I just
have one question because I've been having the fortune or Misfortune to just be listening you have no guarantees that that property will be cleared when it's sold in the motion that was made so
there should be an addition to that motion that it's contingent upon the property being cleaned up which is the whole point of the thing absolutely and they could you know things could change they could decide not to do anything on it and then you have just released all
of that money and got no guarantees around it just for your consideration all right so we need a second motion I make a motion that the property be guaranteed to be cleaned up within 12 months of its
purchase and if this purchase falls through then the release of the leans does not hold yeah FS are reestablished if I can just I want to respect the the procedure and the motion on the floor but just for
my clarification I believed that Mr McCoy had IND so that would require an agreement on the part of the buyer um and I haven't heard anything from the buyer that would indicate that he is willing to do that so I mean we we absolutely can I just
want to for us that I've not heard anything that's indicated the only thing I've heard is Mr McCoy saying do this and I'll jump right on it Mr Martin several I me Mr Martin if I'm not mistaken had
said that they would be starting on it pretty much right away we will so all we've been waiting for is all this right I mean we've got equipment that's what we do so you can see the council's concern they're just looking for a guarant
that you don't decide to take all that money and all your guys and go to Aruba okay so that I think it's a reasonable concern we just need to find a way to find to do it we know several people in this room there to tell you
that we what we say we'll do I'm not and and I believe I believe you sir I believe you and I believe Miss hires but that's nothing in writing and we really need to get something back from jeap rolls over there too cuz he parks
his car there a lot right there probably should need so I'm asking the attorney Miss I don't I don't want to be involved in it cuz uh keeps the vagrance off I I might charge you more well what about the fire chief over there looking at
excuse us can we get back to thank you Miss Kristen the top can you prepare something for them that protects the city in the event that they do not do what they saying they're going to do so
if I can clarify the motion because I do still want to respect the procedure but if I am hearing the intent of the motion correctly I think that what I'm hearing is we'd like an stop a letter that says it will be reduced to
$155,000 um should the sale of this go through should the contract be um accepted if the contract is not accepted then the fine is not reduced and and in addition to that if the property if the contract
does go through and the property is not cleaned up and in compliance within 12 months of the sale then the buyer would be responsible for the full am remaining amounts the full amount of the lean is that what I'm hearing I'm just
clarifying okay well you've already paid 15,000 of it so it won't be for the full again it will be for the remaining yes is that that is correct okay all right I didn't hear a second I'm
sorry all right so if I might if I might please what's important to the title company is that the lean be released upon the payment of the $155,000 at the closing and so the
agreement at that point it's released any kind of agreement you can get with the buyers is going to be between the city and the buyers separate it's a separate agreement but that's a that's a it's an unusual yeah way to to to do it it seems
like to me given the land title question yeah yes I it would be a separate agreement between the buyer and the City Mr you okay with that is the buyer willing to do that okay with that so the Practical problem is the city and
the buyer have to work out do their dance and work out their agreement before we close the transaction because to ask the buyer to just accept whatever standard is going to be so I'm just looking at from a
standpoint of an attorney that would say okay do we know if we have a buyer or not no we don't probably until we figure out what kind of agreement there's going to be with the city it adds a level of complexity that is substantial yeah I believe that but are you the buyer sir I
am so therefore it's a rather simple matter to ask you would you be willing to go into a contract with the city of Willison that protects the city in case you do not perform what you said you're going to do my thinking is is go ahead
and try to get it cleaned up before cloes even and then that way there's no question CU we're talking a month before we do that any we'll just go in there and clean up everything and get it cleaned up at your expense yes yeah I do everything in my
I don't ask nobody for money I do everything on on my own would you come to my house so K we don't need a motion do a motion I already did I made a motion I second the motion y right got a first get a second Mr Martin has indicated
that he was an agreement y yes just a separate sheet of paper y all right any other discussion no seeing none all in favor say I I I those
oppose it's 5- Z thank goodness thank you very much congratulations sir I hope does a good job motion second I'm not I'm talking about your whole project oh thank you very much for your time
thank you thanks everybody all right thank you good night see you item C discussion with possible action action utilizing the old apost stre uh shop Building located at the wellison airport for a training
room for the Willison Police Department chief Mike rolls and Airport Manager Benton steagle thank you Council um last I I believe it was last meeting
um Chief rolls brought to the council a u you know a piece of equipment that they're working on purchasing for firearms training U basically a firearm simulator um and you kind of joking through out there that we had some space out at the airport and you know we we
did have some space at the airport um I've many of you know that um you know Enrique Martinez has closed up his shop and they're his family is in the process of cleaning it out um you know it's it's about a I'd say you know 20 by 20 office
um that you know Henry's paid about $200 a month for which is pretty easy to write off given the benefits that we would be getting from it um so you know we talked to talk to Chief rolls and major Fortney about it and they they
think that there would be a great opportunity and place to put that especially since it's away from um the police department they have a lot more control of you know the training environment out there instead of being pulled every which way at police department and I I think it'd be great
to have at the airport as well and it's not going to be a big loss leader for us as far as revenues concerned Mr President yes sir when it's possible I'd like to speak on this okay you want to go before I ask a question yes while you and chief of the
police department were working this out did you decide who was it you going to lose it from your budget or were we going to pay it from our budget or were we going to ask for a budget increase I think Mr Benton made that pretty clear that the cost that they
were receiving for that building is is it good to say minute yes sir so there's going to be no charge Mr Mayor thank you security for the airport the the room will just be allowed the police
officers to be there you will still own it they will not be leasing it or renting it or anything anything right uh minor correction we will still have to have a rental agreement on the building um but it would we would have the same caveat on that rental agreement that we
have for the animal shelter um that the um benefit to the city of Williston greatly exceeds the usefulness of the rent from the lease and if the police department decides it's no longer useful like when we finally get the
new safety complex then it would just go back to you with no penalties yes sir thank you so this is a building that the city owns yes sir okay yeah it's part of um part of T Hanger Building C um so if
you drive in the uh the second gate on 18th Street you have alpha bravo charlie um as soon as you make that leftand turn into that t- hanger row you have a small office and then it has t- hangers one two and three on that side um so we're we're talking about the little Office
right there it's got two two handy or two parking spots and a handicap parking spot okay any other questions no all right miss karon this needs a
vote or con consensus listly to vote all right so I will entertain a motion I make a motion that we approve the utilization of the old upholstery shop building for the training room for the Wilston Police
Department I'll second all right got a first got a second got any discussion anybody no all right we'll move to vote all in favor say I I those oppos 5 Z
thank you who first you did first I made a motion okay second all right item D resolution 2025-the
with r Pierce to provide miscellaneous Engineering Services for planning Public Works and utilities and improving and effective date city planner Laura Jones and Public Works supervisor Donald
Barber thank you Mr President so this is a continuing uh contract with Wright Pierce they perform Services a lot of these services are at the direction of the city council things like uh some of the issues over on Northwest 7 some of
the issues over on Southeast Fifth and many many more uh they go through the city manager uh you generally again at council's direction we have run out of money in the current budget we suspected this would happen as it's happened in previous years so in the budget if if
you look at your storm water budget uh we have Engineering Services that are there so it is technically budgeted it's just not budgeted uh for these um specific uh uh departments so what we're asking is for that storm water money that's in the engineering to be utilized
and moved and you'll see the dispersement is 25,000 will go to planning for miscellaneous services and 50,000 will go to utilities and then we present the budget in May we'll make those changes we're tracking how much we're using year toe and changing what
those services are so that we're trying to more properly budget that so okay all right any Council questions so it'll be moved from storm water to these two areas
okay no all right I'll entertain a motion I move res that we approve resolution 2025343864 second all right any other discussion CN none we'll move to vote all in favor say I I I I those
oppose 5 Z all right item e resolution 22-36 a resolution of the city council of the city of Williston Florida of approving the amendment of the State of Florida approving the amendment to the
State of Florida Department of Transportation public transportation Grant agreement for financial project number 44255 D1
94-25 regarding or regarding the Willison City Municipal Airport design and construction of Runway 5-23 lighting and signage at the Willison
airport authoriz authorizing appropriate parties to sign any documents required to execute such an amendment on behalf of the city of Willison and providing an effective date Airport Manager B steagle
yes sir so um after looking over this um I I think I made this mistake I won't blame it on anybody else but um this this particular one is not an amendment uh this is a ptga to add to or add State
funding to a federal project um so what this project is is we have a um we have a design for transferring our Runway lighting from Runway or for Runway 523 from um the hallogen bulbs that they are
to L LEDs um and this is the design phase for that it's a 95% Grant through the FAA this is the Dot's 5% match to Federal funding um so that that was my mistake I should have caught that on the resolution um but it's not an amendment
this is the ptga for the fdot match for an FAA Grant um so the fiscal impact fiscal impact for the city um there's none um because this is a ready match so we're we have nothing involved other than just receiving the money
okay um ptga can you just public transportation Grant agreement sorry about that no worries Mr President that is that's my mistake there's a there was an amendment and there is an agreement and I think I put just Amendment on both of them so I
apologize all right I move approval of resolution 202536 I'll second we got a first we got a second any other discussion anybody seeing none we'll move to vote all in favor say I I those oppose 5
Z who is it that made the motion I do and second was that you miss Meredith who second that d all right item F resolution 2025-the in the amendment to
the State of Florida Department of Transportation public Grant agreement for financial project number 44255 1-94 -01 regarding the Willison municipal
airport taxiway G Rehabilitation and realignment authorizing the appropriate parties to sign to sign required execute such Amendment on the behalf of the city of
Willison providing an effective date Mr seagull yes sir so this one is an amendment um only in scope not in dollars um basically we're taxiway is under construction right now and planning to be finished up by the end of the month uh however the the FAA since
they're funding part of it has requested that we we conduct what they're calling an exhibit a um which is a property inventory of the airport um typically this goes along with our master plan and we have a master plan coming up in the next couple of years uh but there's the new federal requirement that they want
everybody to update their exhibit A's as quickly as they possibly can um so we are um because the scope of the work changed we have to amend the fdot agreement even though it has nothing to do with fdot really um but because the scope change
we have to amend the ptga for fdot okay little bit of housekeeping all right need a motion any discussion any
motions nobody else want it no I'm over approval of resolution 2025 37 second we have a first we got a second any other discussion
anybody okay all right those were move to vote all in favor say I I I those oppose 5 Z thank you very much all right ordinates 20 25-7 743 Miss B yes
Mr President this is an ordinance of the city of Williston Florida amending the city of Williston code of ordinances as amended providing for amending chapter 40 Article 5 regarding the city's gas system providing additional def definitions providing requirements and exemptions for residential developments
to Pro to provide natural gas providing requirements for gas turnon and proper use of equipment providing changes to billing and rate structure providing for rate stabilization fund and hedging of Supply providing for standby mode providing severability providing for incorporation in the city code of ordinances and providing an effective
date okay all right do we have any discussions Mr Barbara lots of discussions these are the changes that we've talked about uh regarding the gas update on the ordinance um if you look
through your packet you'll see uh the documents have changed um by underlining that which is new um and Crossing out that which has been changed there's been some substantial changes uh one of the things that Kirsten helped us with uh
and we've done a lot better in this version is we've separated a lot of definitions excluding personal use family homes a developer and a building contractor uh which has been uh majorly needed and developing some of the homes
in willston and some of the developments in willston uh we've had a lot of arguments as to what are single builds to what are multiple builds and these levels are put in here now for everyone to clearly see um we've also
increased the uh amount that a developer has to do from 90% to 95% that's on page 81 in your packet page five of the document um we've gone through and we have want questions as you go where you going to say the whole thing and then
you have questions why don't you do that you ask any questions that you have whichever you want to do just let him read I that's what I'm asking my first question whichever you'd prefer okay I'm gonna go through it uh ahead in in order all right so page 82 you'll see all of
that section was struck because on page 83 we got more into language of the developers agreement that had never been codified before uh it's going to be codified here if you choose to in gas and our goal is to do that in power water sewer and the other ones in the
future as well this clearly lays out responsibilities clearly lays out the contracts that we come up with and um in here uh gives them very clearly what the expectation from the city would be which to I'm sure our attorney's consternation is something that would be nice if we
didn't have to explain it each time uh when it's in mun code um if you go to page nine page 85 altogether in the whole packet uh it talks about individual premises and on individual
premises um you'll see that uh it really defines that better uh we again label the types of appliances that are acceptable for gas development the range stove the furnace the dryer and so on
and so forth um lays out more uh information in page 86 on authorities to turn on gases and what meter tampering is more definitively um um you go down to
section 40-1 178 we've had a lot of issues um with plumbers coming in and causing damage or tampering and creating issues and then the customer of course the citizen coming back and saying well I didn't do it so it clearly defines
that if it's your home and you've hired the plumber in a sense you have to take responsibility for what your plumber has done on customer is permitted and it continues on 87 to have concrete or a permanent fixture over within 24 in of the city
installed gas meter that is tampering it is actually tampering defined as the Public Service Commission in an emergency many times the part that has the most leaks is what comes in contact with the ground concrete of course absorbs absorbs moisture which rots that metal point which we have a lot of
serious problems with and then what it is is we have one of our workers standing there with a concrete saw two more with fire extinguishers and another one with a hose because you have an active leak and you have to cut concrete and that's the only way to make the repair so they need to understand that
there is a consequence to that so we labeled that as tampering you go to um page 88 it redefines certain elements of the rate schedule dealing with large
industrial customers um we are not changing the rates for those customers but we're better defining it then the exciting part which we've talked about and presented many months ago to you all on page 89 talks about our rate stabilization fund this again
is a sort of a prepayment when there's spikes in the market we're able to come to you as the council and through resolution say we have $200,000 in the g g gas rate stabilization fund and we would like to basically keep everybody on what their average bill would be and
that will cost us this month $330,000 and you would come in and say yes you're going to charge them their normal rate and we're going to keep them at that and what they've prepaid for those expected increase and jumps in the market we will mitigate that because they've kind of prepaid that it it
solves the problem of low income and those that are on set incomes um then it also allows for reserves which Steph the city manager and I'm sure the attorney really like and some of you would really like and that is when we build that fund up if
there isn't spikes in the market instead of coming to you and asking for loans and things of that nature to buy essential equipment that needs to be replaced we would then in turn use that for Capital and it can only be Capital that's used for gas that was raised by gas Revenue so uh you know purchasing
essential materials um and making upgrades to lines or fixing and repairing things at gate stations that's what the capital Improvement funds would be used for on on things that are already planned out on Section 40-186 you have hedging of of the natural gas
supply again Katie Hall came in made a presentation you the council said look we understand that this is has to be a call once we tell you there's something that you can lock in there's only probably between six and8 hours to make that call there's certainly not two weeks to get something on the schedule
to present it to you all to get it signed and then to turn around the deals are gone by then so we put some limits in there we put some safeguards in there it would be at the city manager's discretion but it would have months of time time for proposed transaction dates
and how long they could lock it in and percentages that they could do that on so for example only 75% of our market share could be locked in at a year so let's say they come to us and say you can hedge at a $150 we'd be like wow that's incredible I mean that's the
lowest anybody pays in the United States right now for gas by almost probably 80 cents let's lock that in she could lock that in at 75% of our portfolio but the limit to that would be up to 12 months if she wanted to do it longer 13 to 24
months it would only be at 50% and at 25% from uh month 25 into the third year so there are limits and caps on what we could do uh Clear Water did this very successfully um two years ago when we had our big jump that June two years ago
and it went up to $9 a decatherm they locked it in at I believe somewhere around 180 so they were just crushing it the down downside is is that when you have a market that increases and it scares you sometimes you purchase in at let's say $3 and there are many systems
that did that and now they're paying $3 versus paying the two something that right now we're currently paying so there is there is a risk to that um but it clearly lays out what the parameters are and uh and basically what you guys had stated that you were comfortable with is what the language was drafted at
that fgu and the City attorney uh have put down here last section in gas ordinance is section 40-1 187 this is standby mode for residential and Commercial metering and what this does is it says that there's going to be a base rate the lowest base rate of
$25 that will be given to any commercial or residential customer that over 12 months of usage taking that into what their average monthly usage is if it's 500 or below uh of BTUs that they would not pay
the commercial or the higher residential rate outside City Limits it equalizes the playing field so this would be for businesses that are maybe accounting firms or real estate officers that have small one two appliances they're not really selling or marketing any product they're not having any commercial
viability to their gas usage it's more on the part of a residential unit and so what this does it allows them to have that base rate that makes sense for them to continue using gas um so that's standby mode if you have any questions I'd be happy to answer them um one thing
before um we move forward I just wanted to point out that if you look on page 89 of your whole packet page 13 um you'll see the rate and fee schedule and then that's um empty uh that language will read that the rate and fee schedule shall be set by resolution it's
referenced in the title just didn't make it into the body of the um ordinance we're making some last minute edits so I just wanted to let you all know um that that that change will be there and that rate schedule starts on page 91 other than the standby mode there were no
changes made uh to that um this is a continuation of exactly the rate schedule that we've had uh and it takes into effect CPI with no increases other than that right anybody got any questions mayor Mr
Mayor Mr Barber yes sir the one thing that keeps coming to mind because I'm always looking for the safety of things is the rate stabilization fund say you don't need anything and
that fund is there a cap on that fund uh no sir you wouldn't have a cap on it unless the council wanted to put a cap in it and I would recommend you're always going to have Capital needs so if the money's there we would make an upgrade for example in gas let's say
that you had an overfunding of the C of the rate stabilization fund you would say where could we expand the gas line to put more customers on where is gas not offered and there's many neighborhoods in Willison it's not offered and most of the time we tell them although you would like gas the reason why we can't give it to you is
because we don't have the funds to expand the line to your area so that would be an equalizer at the same time of investing in your system you're also bringing on more customers which actually the larger the customer base you have makes it easier on each rate payer so the bigger bigger customer
count you have the cheaper it is for everybody because you still have the same fixed cost you have the same operations and maintenance same thing with power we have about 1,00 power meters we have about 1,700 water meters that burden is split but in gas we only have about 800 so fewer residents are
sharing that burden of that same fixed cost so You' take your capital and you would expand it to areas gas is also part of our storm Hazard mitigation plan in regards to the more gas that you give to Residents in the city of Wilston to put generators on to be able to cook on and to be able to heat water on which
which doesn't stop during a storm means that you have less people who are desperate when we can't give them power so okay who's good question Miss Meredith um I just have a quick question about the definitions will these same
definitions transfer exactly when you do the other utilities when you update them yes we're hoping this year to give you all the other ordinances update these sections make the language identical I can't speak for Kiron I believe all of these definitions came straight from Florida statute so we just wanted to be
in parody with Florida statute so that when they go across the state Willison is the same as what the building floor to building code would be and any kind of standard I think that's correct they're they're basically verbatim from the statute perfect thank
okay anybody else good question I lost one of my questions I can't find it again um I should have asked him as I went is that where it says now that you have to have four instead of three no uh there's no exception now if you build a house in the city of Wilston
you either buy out or you put gas in we eliminated the three house and the reason why we did that was because we had companies come in and they would build two and then for $120 they would go open a corporation they still have their builders's license and they would
go build another two houses under that fictitious company then they would build two there go file another $120 and open a corporation and they were skirting the intent of it so now we're just going to say if you don't want gas and your commercial or residential property there's a formula in here you buy out
because you're you're injuring the city as a whole it's sort of like an impact fee I know but who made that decision that we were going to do that it's just updates that we were en encouraged to do by this was developed by the City attorney by the staff by Florida gas utility these were things that we looked
at that were consistently problems and we had addressed those issues so how much does it cost somebody to come put have to pay for the gas number one there's no cost there's no cost to the meter there's no cost up to 75 ft of the install in the line there's no tapping fee on gas and there's limits to if
they're so far away and they if they if they're so far away residential is a standard um actually it's done by how many houses you're building so if you build if you build 25 houses you have to go up to a mile because you're building a development but if you're building less than 10 houses it's only 4 00 ft so
if you're within 400 ft we'll run the line to you if not then you're exempt anyways so there's actually footage exemptions there it's not someone who's two miles away from the gas line they got to pay a fine it has to be feasible for them to connect to gas I me that works fine if it's a developer but what
if it's an individual person we address that with the lower amount like I said it's only 400t we'll run gas 400 feet and it's not expensive I mean even if they don't want it they still if they don't want it they can buy out and it's the formula is not expens it comes to their us okay it comes to
their usage and it comes to 5 years of of Revenue on that so it's very insignificant you got to understand gas bills on average for people are maybe 20 some dollars a month mine's not 20 something dollars a month well because you because you have
a lot of other things connected to it I I do I have four four things connected to it but how if you're going to figure it over five years worth of usage whose usage it would be their usage so you look at their building plan you take the appliances that they would need and you
would take average consumption on state averages pretty simple the why are we doing it well well because who made the decision we wanted to do it well I didn't say anybody again the ordinance changes are based on issues that we've consistently had the
issue we consistently have is you have folks coming in and want to build cheap houses and don't want to put the investment in and they're and they're skirting around it yeah and that is the reason why I addressed it and and the buyout is very comparable to any other system we everything that we do in
ordinances for gas we we clear through fgu and we we take a survey of what other systems are doing leberg does this and has things to go out on Stark is developing this Lake City has this there's many systems that have this in place if I may just briefly uh Mr
President you all are a member of fgu not everyone is member of fgu you you get certain services um from that membership with fgu um one of those Services is that fgu does reach out to you and say hey this this is a trend that we see a lot of
municipalities um either really needing or um starting to use and it's been beneficial and they help so I I believe that the originally the idea came from fgu as a as a consultant and an adviser on matter fact they drafted this section um well I'm like I said I haven't got
any worry about a developer a big developer sure I'm talking about an individual person if Meredith decided to build a new house tomorrow and she doesn't want Gas Appliances how much is she going to pay not to have gasli sure and I understand that and I I can't give you that exact number because it' be depending on the
footprint of the house if the house was smaller it the the the make me a guess the I can't give you a guess a specific yeah well it's not hypothetical when you're coming to apply for it's hypothetical because there's no parameters for the question to answer
let's say it's a ,000 foot house we can set it's easy enough to do so how we figure out the formulas we look at a a a set of plans they what they call their Peak BTUs and we address the formulas based on the peak BTUs so I I cannot do
the formula for a fictitional house I would have to look at a set of plans if you're asking for a cost average between the first read and if you'd be willing to the second read I could reach out to fgu and we could get uh what that projection is I remind you that this is also to encourage people to put in gas
we have a rebate program as well re wrong I've got five gas supplies well right so we have a rebate program as well in here that rebate program says that if you have an electric stove and you upgrade it to a gas stove even if you're a new build and you say we're putting in a gas stove we take the model
that's produced as an electric and the one that's produced as gas and the difference in cost the city will actually pay you because there is a storm Hazard m mitigation plan across the state to get as many homes on natural gas as possible because again
this has to do with emergency procedures so you you want to encourage that and you do that through your ordinances and this is one of the tools that systems are doing that they don't have to pay the buyout they can get gas there's no cost to those Services no tap fees no meter fee up to 75 foot onto their
property for free so it's not like water where you have a tapping fee and you have to pay for your meter it's not like electric where you have tapping fees and you have to pay for your meter those things are excluded in the gas industry particularly for these reasons okay so between first reading and second reading make me a f fictitional house sure
absolutely I'll do a couple of different sizes and just give me an estimate I mean is it $200 is it $2,000 that's what I just want to know sure I can because it's going to be added to the price of somebody's house they got to Bild absolutely and like I said a developer he's going to make money he's going to
get it back but an individual will not it's going to just develop not going to get it back because theine is he'll add it to the price of the house no there's no fine because he's going to put in gas the developer's going to put in gas that's the whole the whole Spirit of it it's to Pro it's to
encourage them and almost make it counterproductive to not build a development with gas so they wouldn't pass on any cost because there is no cost to upgrade and a house that's built with gas has on average between eight and 11% higher sale price than a house
that does not have gas so there's a financial benefit to a home that has gas the bay out the buy out to Williston Town towns of Willison or whatever you call it I guarantee they're going to pass that money along to the people who buy okay but that's a totally different story council member Jones because they
did not have an existence any of town home footprint that had ever been built for their company that contained gas otherwise they actually even still considered re-engineering to get out of the fine to put gas into the structures so Ian that's the whole Spirit of it is
to encourage people in the right direction I I know what the the encouragement is but they're going to pass it along and I just want to know and and I'm more worried about the individual than I am the developer which is I've said three times um on page 87
page 87 actually on page 81 let's go to 81 first yes ma'am where it which is where I was going to ask the first question where it talks about um the develop has ensured at the very bottom shall ensure
that not less than 95% we changed it from 90 to 95 that's correct so what why did we do that and who made that decision it was a recommendation from fgo yeah and by the way the development that we did have come in they did 100% oh
yeah if you're going to do it they I'm sure they will do it that's the only reason why I'm increasing it yeah I will say and and Donald please disagree with me if you think that I'm wrong but I think that it would be very fair to say that when fgu when we said hey give us you know you have these
ideas let us know what that would look like in an ordinance and they sent that over this is a very walked back version of what fgu suggested that we do is absolutely walk back all right on page
87 where we went um where we're actually helping them the last line of the second paragraph such work shall be performed by the City personnel and normal time
and material charges shall apply plus 25% is that normal that's the way we've done it administratively that's how we do the water leaks if a contractor comes in and breaks a line we submit an invoice to them we don't just charge the FEMA rates now there's administrative time there's boil water testing so all
those administrative costs that you can't capture we've assigned a percentage to it that's the other 25% yes ma'am okay and we learned that from Fruitland Park leberg The Villages they've had people that have come in and done negative things and the only way that you prevent them from doing those
is that there has to be some sort of cost prohibitive to doing that yeah and on page 89 these were just things as I was reading it at home um where it has I know it says maximum hedging qu Quant
ities I guess that covers at home I was thinking it needed to say up to 75% but since it says maximum I think that would correct that would be served the same purpose yeah I mean and and it's not locked in I mean she could do three
years and do it at 10% I mean it's it's but it's just up two that's correct yeah okay and on page 90 on the standback rate on the bu rate I'm thrilled at that I've dealt with two
or three commercial um businesses that have very little usage and they're paying that 155 as you're aware um instead of the a lower residential base rate uh my question is how did we come up and I'm
sure it may again be a recommendation how did we come up as the 500 as the cut off because we looked at the list of people the entire customer list our individual our individual list that was for our system and we looked at what they did and what type of Industries
they were in and whether or not um we had to set a standard somewhere and this Exempted over 60% at 500 of all commercial clients okay in the entire city um if we would have gone much higher than that we would have basically then there was no point of even having a
commercial rate yeah You' have just pick everybody up and the ones that Above This I mean there was like three or four that were 500 180 was the next one after the the 1493 and then after that it started jumping up by the hundreds every single one to where five down it was at
it was like a thousand plus okay so we had to come up with some sort of cut off and as we looked through the list and We examined what they did um we tried to understand what it is that they were pursuing as far as uh uh you know as far as usage and and that's how we did that
they were using it for okay those are my questions thank you yes clarification any other questions Council anybody got any questions all right so miss just do a
motion Miss B you do a motion for approval on first reading okay or denial all right so I'll entertain a motion on first reading I make a motion that we approve
approve ordinance 202- 7 4 three got a first do we have a second second got a first got a second any other discussion seeing none we'll move to vote all in favor say I I I those oppose
I all right it's 41 thank you all right H ordinance 2025 744 M Belo yes Mr President this is an ordinance of the city of Williston Florida amending the city of Williston code of ordinances as amended providing
for amending chapter six regarding alcoholic beverages to amend the definition of open container in accordance with Florida law to add penalties for violations and to allow on premises licensed vendors in a designated event Zone to sell alcohol for consumption off premises during special events in a design event Zone
subject to approval by the city council providing severability providing for incorporation in the city code of ordinances and providing an effective date um all right so miss Belo and Miss Jones um Laura I don't know if you want
to start and you want me to fill in or if you would like me to start um I could just remind that um the the council the backgrounds a few months ago you had an event coordinator come and ask if this was something you would be interested in and you asked him to work with us to create an ordinance so that is what
Kirsten has done beautifully um this is just to sell alcohol doing events in um event zones so it's not a a like a go all for every Park you know you can't just go to any park and have an event and sell alcohol this is for special and
it has to be approved um with the permit so it's something you're going to know ahead of time they're not going to be selling alcohol you know without our knowledge ahead of time so it's mostly just beer and wine I don't think that we have any liquor in here kirston can double check but um
it's just beer and wine okay Miss blue so the um lore did a great job sort of telling you sort of how we got here um a couple of things that I really really want to emphasize because I'm
sure that everyone has different experiences with different sort of versions of this so what this is not like is if you've ever been to Celebration point in Gainesville this is not like that in in celebration point they have a special district where you can just sort of walk around with
alcohol from any of those restaurants anytime or any of those vendors this is not like that um this is a lot more uh control for you all than that it's during specific times on specific days
pursuant to Applications um I don't recall and I will look through it as we as you all discuss I think that we just say alcoholic beverages which I believe would cover liquor and beer and wine that's the way I read it too but that would be a pretty easy fix for me
to for me to amend that if that's our preference but I think that the way that is written now I'm sorry you went F your if you could repeat the last part I apologize so the the way that it's written right now we
just have it listed as alcoholic beverages I don't think that we have it uh limited to beer and wine but that would be a very easy fix for me to do okay you turn your mic on Mr Mayor yes I would like to hear from
chief chief R can I go first sure so with this ordinance the way that it's written even when you decide to change it what type of liability will the city have allowing alcohol to be
sold at special events so one of the one of the re my standard answer is there's always liability associated with anything you do or do not do um there is always liability and an increased
rate potential liability when you deal with alcoholic beverages that's the nature of an alcoholic beverage it's the nature of fireworks it's the nature of wild animals um there are some things that just come at a certain uh higher risk um what I will say is that one of
the reasons why we crafted it the way that we did is to limit that liability and the reason for that is it really places the onus on the event coordinator to provide us with insurance that we're we're um comfortable with to provide us
with um as an additional insured on the Insurance because it goes through you for a permitting process rather than sort of being a willy-nilly anytime you want any any place you feel um you all have control through the permitting process to limit that liability depending on the event if it's
an event that's an hour long then that will probably need less insurance than an event that's planned to go for 16 hours or something um so it really sort of puts within you all's control what you're comfortable with liability wise so the insurance is going to be based is
going to cover the city as well in the event that somebody gets a ticket after being at the event and then Su you you could require them to provide uh the city as an additional insured on the insurance absolutely that's within your
power if the question is will that insurance protect the city from a claim if someone attends this event drinks and then gets a DUI over somebody that's that's pretty removed um I'm not 100% uh
certain on that specific situation uh and I think that the answer would depend upon the kind of insurance that's provided Okay police chief rolls I can probably help answer that question because I've seen an event where someone
has been at an event and got intoxicated and drove and got into a car crash and they sued the vendor who was holding the event and they won and they won a lot of money uh I'm not against it but I would have liked to have been consulted about this
before we drew this up uh because I have some concerns all of our parks are labeled no alcohol beverages you know so I would have liked to had a little bit of an input into this before we this doesn't even address the park ordinance
it doesn't so that's I have concerns so I would like to to maybe round table where we me and Laura and Christ can sit down and talk about it and come up with a better plan out there this is and it does talk about consumption of
alcohol and when you can and cannot do it this is the park Ordinance one section of the park ordinance this is the park ordinance if you read down the the fact that you can't drink at the park is in there this is for special events only but the special events are
at the parks correct yeah this is the park ordinance okay yeah so the park ordinance says you can't have alcohol in the Park yeah and I don't see that in here anywhere so it's on page 103 I apologize it's on
page 103 and you just crossed it off is that what you did nope these are the language that we have below is is essentially notwithstanding any of the above you all can look at permits regarding X Y and Z
so we didn't make any changes to the prohibition the section that we added is uh crafted such that you all have the ability to review um applications for
events and if that causes a conflict then your approval of the application will prevail does that make sense yes sir oh yes I'm Joel uh my question is isn't there ordinance of selling beer or alcohol 500 ft
between a church and cedra and 300 fet I thought it was 500 300 300 yeah but how can that be how can you that even allow that to even go through because I mean there's a church right there there's church right here I mean there's a
daycare right there there a day here down there how that could it even be possible to even happen in any of the parks that's my question so nothing in the ordinance the
way that it's written is violative of Florida statute or that requirement regarding serving alcohol within certain limits what this does is this allows you to review applications so if someone came in and they said I want an
application to have an event at at the middle school and I want want to serve liquor you all can say h under our ordinances that's not really what we're what we're looking at so this this is
not this is not a a particular I'm sorry it looks like I'm being flagged down okay you can can she finish sorry I don't remember what I wasna say okay M mber what they're referring to is if you look at page
103 down at the bottom it's C Parks similar areas this is your ordinance it's how it currently stands it is unlawful for any person to consume or have his possession any alcoholic beverage in a public own Park and Recreation Area it hasn't changed a bit
you go to page 104 all it was done was a section was added for special permits and if you read down in it to Chief's concern I was just pointing out to him number two under subsection B security and incident plans are approved by the chief of police so the permit can't be
granted until he's on board States it right there in the ordinance change that they're doing under 6.7 special permits so if Chief were to say I wouldn't approve this then the permit can't go forward and and can't
we you can limit to two beers or three beers I've been to events the where they have the isolated areas for people to drink and they're controlled right into
there um so please CH my question would be who's going to control it and who are we going to depend on to control it are you going to depend on the vendor to control it or who's going to control that I mean I'm not I'm not totally
against it I just think that there's some some steps that we need to put in place before we say yes we're going to open up our family parks to allow people to drink alcohol until they're drunk or pass out and we've got children running
around I mean just because you have a special event at the park don't mean the park is closed to the public the general Republic can still come there and utilize that Park so I just think there's things we need to think about before we make a vote on this and say
yes we're going to do this do yes Martin even on special events the vents are still the parks are still open to the public is it not the public can still go into the park now you don't reserve the whole park you don't reserve the you you can still you can't stop the public from going in the park unless unless there's
paid admission which is I can only think of one place that would be the Horseman's Park you could do that yeah even if we have events at at Heritage Park and it's reserved the public can still walk up there drive in there anytime they want yeah there's no control point there there's no control
so that's my concern my question would be can can we Define um in in some place the amount of insurance that each vendor has to have so it's not the permit department having to decide that each
time so um this would come before the council so all the event permits would come before the council so your permit decision or your permit department would not be making those decisions but we can absolutely I mean I can put a a minimum um Insurance provision in there if we'd
prefer absolutely and I feel like I mean two cents here for what it's worth that if it goes past you know certain number of hours or certainly into hours where it starts to get dark that that insurance needs to be incredibly High I mean it says in here to midnight but I
don't know how I feel about W the nor ordinance is 10 and the park closes at dusk right yeah so anyway just some clarity and stay open Mr Penny uh so example like just probably about two days ago there was a person walking
around the park and there's not no officers around or anything and there was a guy like peeing out in the open I don't want to see that at the park which Park was it call the cop John Henry park and I did call the cops and no one
showed y but the question is is yall going to allow alcohol and liquor and stuff like that at our parks and have pedophiles or have people come into where the kids are I don't think so are y'all going to allow
that well I will just reiterate the anyone who's a registered sex offender is not permitted near a public park yeah they're not allowed any where children are you can go after alol so so are we you can go are we adding a extra
step in the special event permit because counselor last I checked don't approve his special event permits this kind of special event permit yes so we adding a new step in page 104 an application for a special event permit under this section shall be considered
via resolution of the city council okay de okay I got five or six things that I'm worried about um I know don't laugh I tried to start early y'all wouldn't let me I was being nice let everybody else talk first for a change
um the on page 104 where it talks about oh I want to read this it talks about licensed vendors on premises licensed vendors are allowed to sell alcohol for consumption anywhere in the event Zone
then it goes on to talk about nonparticipating license vendors in the event Zone that can only sell Al alcohol for consumption on premises during the event that's very confusing to me so in the event so I I I really
wanted us to keep keep sort of in mind that right now we have this sort of current figure that we have is our downtown district that might may change so we want to make sure that we're making your ordinance comprehensive enough so that depending upon
the changes to your city in the future you have control over things so let's say in the event that's very specific to if there is a licensed vendor under this permit then they can sell any anywhere in whatever zone is designated for that
permit okay so let's say it's a two block radius if there was a two block radius inside that zone and someone decided that they were not going to be a participating vendor so they didn't put in with the permit application but
they're they are a licensed vendor so they're not participating in the event but they are a licensed vendor already allowed to sell alcohol they can sell alcohol on their premises still this doesn't prohibit them from if they're already if they're not in the event Zone if they're if they're in the event zone
so what it's saying is bar yes if it includes a bar it the bar is still allowed to sell alcohol but they can only sell alcohol on their own premises that's what it means by non-participating licensed vendors can
only sell alcohol for consumption on premises during the event so it's not a free-for-all for anyone participating license V non participating in the event and the other thing that I have an issue with is it talks and I can't find the spot it
talks about people needing permission on a on private property I don't think we have we I don't think we need to get into telling people what they can do on private property and you'll have to help me find that spot but I didn't like it a bit when I got there number one I don't like
any of it um there's maybe one and a half Parks I would consider doing this at I would never consider doing it at John Henry can I speak for a second no I'm still in the middle of a senate said you can I would never consider doing it at John Henry I would never consider doing it at Heritage Park maybe the
fireman's part maybe the Horsemen's part because they're controlled a little better um but no I can't think of another part that I would want this to happen in and even as Mike has said I've
been to events where they had an EV a a vent tent that you could buy liquor but you had to stay in the tent you couldn't wander up and down the park you just stayed in the tent that's how I see that this works is they have to stay in that
zone so like you said be in the zone just this tent in the park right and only that's kind of how I've read it um you you done let's see if Laura can go ahead we'll come back to you Miss Jones M Jones do you want to turn oh yes thank
you um so I think that we're getting a little bit off track the only two parks if you look at the maps that are attached are Fireman's Park and Heritage Park I couldn't tell a thing by looking at the maps it's nothing CU they're they're not good in our packet the first
the first map you can't tell a thing by it so it says um the downtown district as described in figure below which is Heritage Park and Fireman's Park it doesn't include John Henry or any other
Parks um president Cox is correct where the the way that this is really going to go in the ends with your special exception permits that you guys are going to review is that you're going to have a tent where you're going to be drinking beer and you guys can tell them
where you want want the tent to be the reason that the whole thing is um highlighted for Heritage Park is because that's how that whole event will go but as Joby pointed out we have to stay 300 feet from the churches and the schools
so there's a very small area here where they can have that beer tent they cannot leave and walk around the park with beer or wine it has to stay in that event area just like it would have to stay at firemen's Park they couldn't walk up and down the street they could have a baby
shower and have some wine and that's really the intention of this and that's why it was um asked to to bring the ordinance it's not to have big parties up and down the street um it's going to be very regulated by you and that's why Kiren put it in there that you guys have
to say exactly what specifications that you want when they put in these events May I point out at the last event that we had in Heritage Park uh I had a man come up with to me and said is there any
chance that we might change the ordinance that says you can't have beer or wine here in and he said he had a tent he was willing to keep it controlled from miners no miners let in but he want he
he felt like it would be a good business gesture obviously for him to be able to sell beer and uh and I said I don't think that's going to happen Mister but you could CH you could make
me wrong so what happens when we y'all have an event and someone gets kind of like really wasted and I'm not say nothing bad about the city but some of the sidewalks is kind of a little uneven or you know there's some
part parts yeah what happens if they fall and like bust their knee open or break a knee I mean who's reliable for that would it be the city ability Insurance that's insance can the city can't someone go after the property
owner and the liability people they will they absolutely will they can so the insurance no good but we can Laura correct me if I'm wrong we can tell them after X amount you can tell whoever you want they're going to sue whoever you want it's well they're going to do it if
you look at somebody wrong they will't sue you but that's not the issue I mean why would we want to put ourselves in a situation where we can be sued that's what I'm saying that we're already can be suit okay I'm just pointing out
doesn't matter if he's been drinking or not they actually we want him to be drinking because that evidence will come out and his suit will get lost uh we can be sued at any time right it's it's just agree there yeah I mean
I've been over to patad one of their blue crab or one of their festivals and they have a tent you can go in you can buy beer you sit down they have it all kind of fenced in you got an entrance in
entrance out and that's how they control it they got to come to one spot and they that's what this gentleman asked me and I said no way and they drank it in the I could be wrong that's what I told him
too oh he came to you too huh okay so I'll say it again over our heads I'm not against it I have a lot of questions you're talking about what other people have and how they set their tents up but
we're not talking that here we need to know we need to have a clear outline of what we mean by we're saying you can have a tent where you can sell alcohol does it have to be a screen in tent does it have to be fence T is there going to be somebody standing there to Mak make
sure somebody don't walk at it I've been to events where they have tense you sell alcohol and I watch people walk right out of it get the alcohol walk right out and go wherever they want to go and there's nobody there to control them there's nobody there saying hey you've had four drinks and that's it you you're
you're a little bit too intoxicated no they keep selling them they keep getting they keep walking out so my concern from the security point of it is my people that are going to if if if it's required for them to even have an officer standing there to make sure that they're
not walking out of the tent which I'm not interested in doing because we're not Security Police uh so I think before we do this we need to have a clear guideline as to if we're going to do this what is required and who's required
to do what besides me the police department running over and trying to stop some intoxicated guy who's not listening to the server saying you can't walk out of the tent so I think if we're going to go down this road we just need to have clear guidelines of what we're
going to allow and how it's going to be if possible I'll sit on that committee with you yeah to discuss M Jones you have anything else I'm sorry um no I mean if if this isn't something that we want to do um I'd rather not have a committee and spay like another $600 to
advertise this I was directed to do it by city council and so I mean I didn't write it Kiren wrote it so obviously obviously she was directed to Do It um this really doesn't have I don't have a dog in the fight this city council ask you to write this ORD yeah
you guys asked this I remember that at all I remember him coming in here yeah but I don't remember us telling you to write an ordinance so he could do it I believe that the instruction came from Terry oh maybe it was Terry oh I apologize but somebody ask here and he's
gone right he can't defend himself so you see how smart that is of me I've got a list of other things that Terry did if you want them anytime I'm in trouble if Terry did itry so I mean what I'm trying to say is
like if you guys are interested in doing something like this so that we can have baby showers at the park downtown and that we can have like when we had our groundbreaking we could have had a little bit of champagne if you're interested in that I could have a committee and we could make it very specific if you're not interested at all
I have a lot of other ordinances that you guys are very interested in that you've directed me to write so I guess that's the direction I'm asking for if if you're not going to if you're not interested then we don't have to do it yeah I think I'm not opposed to it but I'm in agreement with Chief rolls and
maybe an option would just be to table this come back when we have a few more definitions outlined if possible and we could all submit our suggestions for what needs to be defined and
revisit greata I think she yes ma'am yes I'm just thinking and I'm thinking about what has happened to me recently but when we do the event Insurance can there be a disclaimer drown up saying that the city would not be reliable will not be
liable for any type of incident that occurred regarding or relating to this event can you do any disclaimer that the people have to sign with the application and the insurance then event insurance we always have Provisions like that unfortunately under Florida law that
doesn't mean that can't sue you it doesn't mean anything it's a fancy wording but it uh doesn't really provide much protection which is why we have we're glad you have that but it doesn't make any difference I understand exactly what they're saying but I'm saying is
that recently I had to sign a disclaimer and it was valid I couldn't do anything else after I signed the disclaimer so which is what I would say to anyone who came um but if there's a lawsuit it's a sort of do it
anyway okay I make a motion that we table this ordinance um until March's the next one 18th 18th thank you until March 18th and allow a little further input from chief of police and
council members to help Define and identify the concerns a second um would you be willing to amend your motion to give us a little bit more time because that gives me exactly one week to have this ready
again and I will not I will not be ready I will amend my motion to the council meeting following the 18th which I don't know what it is first meeting of April first meeting of April hey I got I got one more thing uh par of
pars right here and right across the street there's a daycare so there's a what a daycare a day where where the kids are kids and Company kids and Company so how could that even allow joy we addressed it 300 ft from the daycare
I mean the park is 300 feet is not as long as you think it is it's not very acoss the street that just means so that would mean that you couldn't drink right across the street but Heritage Park goes all the way down to fifth place so plus if it's a weekend event children won't
be there it doesn't matter it doesn't well we could we could change the ordinance that says if it's if the daycare is closed we can still drink in front of it V just table it I know we need a vote to table it all right okay so got a motion
come got a second's got a motion second all right good any other discussion no you sure speak now forever you please okay all right see none move to vote all
in favor of table meeting until first meeting meeting in April say I I I those opposed 5 Z feed me in a minute what's that you have to feed me in a minute I no I agree all
right letter I ordinance 202- 746 Miss Belo all right Mr President this is an ordinance of the city of Williston Florida amending the city of will code of ordinances as amended providing for amending chapter 38 and creating Article 5 entitled school speed zone
infractions providing for school speed zone enforcement cameras providing for school speed zone speed enforcement program and use of speed detection systems providing program implementation requirements designation of school zones and enforcement providing legislative findings providing severability providing for incorporation in the city
code of ordinances and providing an effective date before we begin I did talk to the chief of police about about this one you did just for the record thank you for that disclosure didn't have a committee
meeting you have been disclosed Mr Chief thank you um so this is I'll I'll let the chief take over but this is um the ordinance that's required in order to implement that school speed zone traffic cameras um that you had that
presentation on um a while ago so this is the legal element that we have to have in order for you all to incorporate that program and I will let the chief take it away this step is part of uh getting the permission and getting established to
have the the cameras in the school zones uh the law requires that you have to have an ordinance so uh this ordinance is not something that's brand new I think every city or county municipality has these cameras in had to create these
ordinance it so was easy for us cuz we didn't have to recreate will it's already been done so happy to answer any questions but County's fully on board the County's fully on board I didn't hear that so you've been to a meeting and they're okay with it I
didn't I didn't have to have the meeting uh we were on the agenda but after they read the house bill and talked to our attorney uh cool they realized they we didn't need their permission they didn't need a didn't have a dog in the place no I make a motion that we approve
ordinance 2025 744 uh 746 sorry to clarify yeah I started to say that's why I didn't second 746 okay we have a first we got a second any other discussion oh anybody out there got anything okay see and N we're going to
move to vote all in favor say I I I those oppos 5 Z thank you all right discussion with possible action council chambers chairs audience
parenthesis Public Works supervisor Donald Barber and city clerk Latricia right boy that looks more comfortable so this is about the update of the room um we did the council chamber chairs we're trying to make small adjustments and improvements um
after we get if you want the chairs out here address which is what we're talking about now then we'll address the desk here and get some things back in order but you see that chair if uh Latricia if you want to scroll up it has all the dimensions um unless it doesn't have it on that one I've got it
on I've got it on this here up not down it was up it was on one of them so you can pass that down if you like it gives your Dimensions it is a vinyl material so it goes to like a a fox leather as opposed to the fabric which
gets stained and you know people do things to them and you know anyways they're not a sanitary um it is about time to update the chairs and and but you know it's whatever you guys want to do I've got a cost estimate there I will go out and get further quotes but it's not really necessary for this amount of
money um but if you guys would like but this is the vendor this is the one that's done a lot of the furniture in the office they stand behind their work they warranty their work again they're the ones that sold the chairs that the that all of you are sitting in and um we we did check the market this is a fairly
good price we've priced in I believe 60 shares Latricia cuz we wanted enough to that if one broke or something happened that we had some put away that would uh take effect I believe with the green chairs that you have out and the white chairs it's about like 48 chairs so with
getting the 60 the extra 12 it would make sure that they're all matching is that amount of chairs with the size going to fit in the room is it the same size as that one they're slightly wider but what we would do is we'd simply move up forward and we would add to a couple of the rows back here and then again we
would take advantage of the wall sides yes ma'am and I they're more of like a church seat now than they are one of these so right who's going to clean them well that's the nice thing is they're they're leather so a little bit of bleach and vinegar and you wipe them down and they're all spotless and clean
unless you want to do it wouldn't put bleach on them no well I mean you you delute it disinfect it maybe not believe well which they yes ma'am they will be white instead of gray and this is something that the council had asked several years ago about getting a price
on the chairs well let me tell you when we were in The Old City Hall when our Council room was in the old library that's when we bought these chairs and they are ancient we have definitely gotten our work our our and like some ancient things are still going strong
and we'll be able to sell those the green ones well we'll do whatever you want I mean the suggestion from staff is that you know you you kind of you get new things and a lot of times we encourage there to be hand me downs to other 51 c3s and nonprofits and people in the community and things like that but if you guys want us to try and sell
them in a lot we'll have Danny put them up on GSA I mean whatever your desire is but I would I would state that there's a lot of hand me- Downs recently that we got from Maran County and other agencies where they give us stuff that we can still get a lot of use out of and it's you know it's kind of nice to sometimes
be able to do that yeah on the other that we're talking about yeah this one can um can they come with dollies because I've been in our church has had them everybody always grabs chairs two or
three and they drag them to the closet we can absolutely inquire if they come with the cart that Stacks so many I have no problem inquiring that that would be an additional cost but I mean in here these in here there's very rarely that we utilize this room for anything other than what requires audience chairs um
but I mean we could inquire on it if that's your desire just make it easier for like moving around like's say you're going to do something with the room that's well we utilize the room for uh hurricanes because this becomes one big
bedroom that's true and this way here they can stack them on the dollies and and just push them out that's how we've we've had them in the past if you guys want to do a consensus I don't think it needs a resolution of any kind because the amount but if you guys want to do a consensus and your consensus wants to be
that you want us to you know a little bit above this amount see if we can get some dollies on Wheels we could do that I mean that's up to you all but it's just question yeah then you got to have a place to put it where are we going to store the do well I mean typically even
during that we push everything against the wall so yeah and the dollies are nothing but no more wider than the base of the chairs being stacked just a question so we're just here to see whether or not
you guys want to move forward with us if if you do then we'll let the company know it they'll come in they'll stack and put these where we want them bring the new chairs in set them up and have everything but that's up to yall it's just what you guys asked us to get together so but I think handing them to another
do we have $5,500 in the budget somewhere yes let's do it on a motion yeah yeah um motion or just a consensus motion be appropriate I move that we
spend up to $5,500 uh for purchase of new chairs for the council room I second we have first second any other discussion anybody anybody out there all right seeing none we will move to vote
all in favor say I I I those oppose it's 5 Z all right the last one for the evening resolution 2025 d38 a resolution of the city council of the city of
Williston Florida approving the signing of the contract with Performance Services for the city of Willison fiber ISP project services for design engineering finance and construction services and providing an effective date
public work supervisor Donald Barber and Hector samario I hope I got that right with Performance Services Inc this is the long awaited contract this is the first step in uh what you'll see as three other items if this goes forward
tonight for a Williston fiber um staff's been working very hard on this um we think that we actually you guys asked us to be in as much speed as we could um and I think uh 5 months from start to finish is like a really really good timeline um even the other ones that
presented were presenting about the same timeline so I'm going to let Hector come up explain it um if you guys have any questions uh there even Hector's even going to talk about the financing which is attached to the back of the packet that you all received in your folder and
um you can ask any questions that you have on that if you move forward with this next meeting the SE Coast Bank would be next on the 18th uh the loan then there would be the uh agreement that we are currently writing uh with
the Williston Crossings we've met with them and they have said that they would give us exclusivity which is private property for the entire park and be their exclusive provider for internet uh and they're willing to do that and contract to do that with the term of the loan so
I mean that's a guaranteed that their lowest season of 200 customers all the time and this time of year they have about 400 on their internet service so that's a huge take rate um a lot of extra customers that are guaranteed that we don't ever have to worry about competition with so you'll see that and
then you'll see once this is passed in the budgets passed for it uh next uh meeting um two positions that would add the technical positions outside hires to do the actual installs and connect the homes after the initial connections that
the contractor would do so Hector I'll have you come forward if you'd like thank you Donald and good evening Mr president vice president members Madam manager brand new manager um I'm going to be just the last item I'm going to
try to be brief I've got a presentation if uh Latricia would like to put that up there I'm going to cut through this quickly because it is the last item it is late you can move on to the next slide I'm sorry it should be some a slide um okay yeah so this is this is
well this is just the agreement I had fored uh some slides no you don't have them that's okay I'll just I'm going to walk through there talk through it so just a little bit of background you recall that you hired L communities back in February of 2023 to do a full assessment of your
your needs your Broadband opportunities and they did a great study they looked at demographics they looked at need they looked at existing service providers they did a full full spectrum of Assessments and January of last year a little more than a year ago they came back and they came back with a very
strong recommendation that the city be the owner operator of your own Broadband your own ISB provider and one of the key things two key things that they said and the reason they came back with that recommendation is because one you already have the infrastructure and that's a huge huge deal and I'll explain
that at a sec and the other reason they said is you already are a a utility provider you have the experience of being a provider customer service and those things mattered a great deal now why that infrastructure makes a big difference to to the city of Williston is we're looking at other opportunities
here in Florida you're we're looking at about 2,000 connections here in Williston about 2,000 points looking at your price we're looking at another city that has about three times as many connections so you think well three times as many connection it's going to be three times the cost but no because you've already
got the infrastructure that cost is going to be closer to six or seven times more so to do the same thing that you're doing here would be six or seven times more expensive somewhere else you know that's it's going be a little bit it's going to be a little bit larger but they don't have the infrastructure or the experience that that matters a great
deal Hector excuse me sh down your slides great thank you so you can just tell me I'm going to go to the next one okay next one so part of your due diligence you said Hector we need to do a comparison we get that recommendation from L communities but we've you we've got several companies coming in here
that's saying that they want to be the ISP provider you recall all of that last year good news is that when you got compan is doing their due due diligence and they're doing the financial analysis they're saying hey this is a great investment so let's go to Willison let's offer to do it ourselves but you asked
to do a due diligence we did the due diligence we looked at you know what another what what an ISP provider would would look like versus what you would look like doing it it wasn't quite Apples to Apples you know or oranges to oranges because of the difference in
pricing and in any case we took as much of the common information that we had common data we ran some numbers um you can skip uh to the next slide a lot of different things came into play we had to assess your cost maintenance a lot of things had to had to be assessed next
slide but when we finished it was it wasn't a close comparison um doing it in-house was far more financially beneficial to the two I mean it wasn't even close so that back in August that EST estimate was about after 15 years you would n about $5.2
million so that was our estimate back in August uh as a result of that you issued an RFP and you can go to the next slide uh as Donald said you issued an RFQ in September three months uh in early December you awarded that to us and here we are today less than six months later
as as Donald said within five months a little more than five months here we are coming back to you with a with the contract now let me add that this is possible because one we have a great team that I'm going to introduce here in just a second but really your staff eron and Donald Have been so incredibly helpful and providing all the
information that we needed TS allowing us access to everything we needed to have access to has been very very helpful so we got this done within that less than six months because of the support that we had not just from our team but from your staff Next Step as
Donald mentioned is the financing you can go back on one so we're looking at financing uh once that's approved in and on on the 18th we're going to get right into mobilization start ordering materials and we're looking at being done with with construction no later than October
18th cool so pretty pretty quick and everything that we're doing here because we know that with any business being being first is always going to be important so being out there is going to be important next slide I do want to introduce my team you you already know me Ron Russell he didn't know but I
added Maestro to his title up there he's our senior project developer and the reason I added Maestro because like any conductor he has been coordinating all of this with our team our subcontractors working with your staff so I'm reminded of That Seinfeld episode where there's a
maestro who like to walk around with his little conductor wand anyway he has been doing an incredible job I can't say enough about Ron and all that he's done uh Mike mccan sitting next to him if you raise your hand Mike company has been around for 26 years Mike has been
with the company for 25 years senior project manager he's going to be in charge of overseeing the the construction of your project he lives here in St Pete I and I if I had to choose from all of our project managers in the company he's a guy that I would choose he just has the wealth of
experience so we're lucky to have him on the call um Frank Frank Delco who's going to be overseeing the construction he's working in six counties here in Florida right now he's on he's on the phone I've asked him to be there he was sitting on the tarmac he was going to be
here sat in the tarmac inside of an airplane for 2 hours waiting to get for clearance for takeoff flight got cancel he had to turn around anyway so now he's back at home Frank thanks so much for being here I know that you're listening to this but thank you and should any questions come up on the construction
side we're going to be pointing or looking looking to you to answer those questions next Slide the project document you have it's got all the information that you see here 4.66 it actually we were below that 4.5 we were closer to we were about 4.2 mil
when the uh RV rist RV Park RV Resort uh was added so that added another Donald mentioned 450 connections underground connections to 450 pads that kicked it back up to 4.6 from 4.2 but it's a great
investment we ran the numbers and it just makes sense haveen to answer any questions I'm going to you can skip uh several slides um you can skip this I just wanted to point out there's been a lot that has gone into getting this ready our team can has looked at every
single light pole done uh loading analysis for every single light uh electric pole um picture we have at everything that we need to do this you can skip on over to this slide here which is just the the numbers when we ran the numbers you saw earlier in the
August we estimated about 5.2 we're looking at 15 years at 7 point I can't see that very well 7.2 Ms over 20 years looking at about Trisha can you bigger 12 mil 12 mil I should have better glasses so so the numbers are are much
better than we anticipated these are all the numbers that we generated working with your staff to make sure that we captured all the costs everything that was going to be generated as part of the project I'm going to pause there answer questions and uh thank let Donal add to it yeah I just wanted to add that if you
look at your take rate which is your top uh left corner you have your amount for construction and then you have your take rate construction you know obviously Two October um we had originally that at 100 we were very conservative on all the ideas of what we would take and
understand what our billables and our revenues would be but we put that to 300 because of the you know uh of the contract that will go through with with Williston Crossings but other than that we had the take rate for all of construction at 100 we suspect that as we're constructing we're going to get
far more than that we already have pre-registrations I think Aon around 386 uh 324 apologize around 324 we didn't add that in the metric so if you go to Year One with a full 12 months of operation we only put it at 500 and then some of
you may ask well in year 20 why do you have 16005 when there's like 1,900 electric meters we put in anticipation of growth so we we worked with right Pierce a bit too and said okay what do we project growth to be over 20 years and so our take rate overall I believe
is under 60% throughout all that time so we were very conservative the other operators that came in and talked about it and said well you guys can't get above 50 can't get above 60 we we're down there too so we weren't trying to be unrealistic with what rate of returns we hope we return this better I mean
we've talked about if we get financing um next time next meeting and we start mobilizing and getting connections let's say by the end of construction we're at 500 or 600 customers and that changes your Revenue picture all we're going to do is utilize that money to get more
customers on which would then allow you to pay back that loan even faster so that's the whole point and then I wanted to point out in the back of your pack and I gave you all hard copies the last couple of pages is a letter last two pages is a letter from Performance
Services and you'll see on there that uh the financing was done through Performance Services but they came to us we were very good partners in the process and they had said you know we have a lot of different banks that we've been dealing with and I was very happy that we were able to work out something with SE Coast so what you'll see on the
very last page of your packet is the initial offer and then the second to last page on the back of that sheet is the letter from SE Coast um as well uh from uh Justin headed over there uh former council member and our you know
the VP of the bank over there for commercial and I just wanted to point out some things on the rate sheet because you're going to be seeing a final offer on the 18th hopefully during the 10-month construction period uh there will be no principle or
interest at all during that then the 14-month interest only period after that so you have a little bit longer than 12 months after that where it's only interest so as we're adding as we're building as we're establishing Services all we're doing is paying the interest now we can pay principal but we are only
required and then we have um 196 months after that for a total of 240 so and then you have prepayment penals penalties that was negotiated as well if you go down to the second to last column you only have if you pay it back early and the third year wouldn't that be nice
you only pay a 3% your second year only a 2% and then thereafter any prepayment is a 1% so I mean as far as a as a deal goes of this magnitude these are really really good terms um so I you know we there was quite a bit of work put into
that as well and I just want to make sure you guys had that information that will be again like I said if you move forward with this contract will be presented in its final form on the 18th Mr Mayor you had your hand up it's a rather simple
question I believe I heard that you would come take all these chairs and put them wherever we wanted them and you would put the new chairs in that's what I believe I heard but this contract specifically says you will deliver them in install them but all
other Furniture must be removed oh that was the last it huh that was the last have you moved on yes because I've been waiting to ask this question for a while oh yeah we definitely pass
that the is remove chair even though this thing says no okay this is on the final chairs but we're on Performance Services which is the second resolution that
Latricia sent us at home yeah is not perform us Services providing the vinyl chairs no sir well I haven't said it fine I'm I'm going to go home all right when we do the cuz I've
been having um customers ask and even my neighborhood they going what happened to the other company I'm like well after the lacking that they took in the council room they just slowly
disappeared and I then would explain for them for person yeah so um they're still doing contracts around the state but I believe what we got word from from some credible people was that they didn't receive enough interest in it that they were willing to saturate this Market at
the time that they they moved on to another Market it's not to say that they won't come back at some point but right now they're not um so opening where I live in citan reic actually they have contracts and they're moving through there and then what they're doing is they've already partnered with spectrum and then another area they've partnered
with uh Cox and so they've already actually pre-sold those customer subscribers to them so they they're in the middle of doing a totally different area in project um we're not aware that they've done anything or moving forward they hav't pulled any permits they haven't they haven't done anything in
regards that now Central Florida is going to be doing some things in the area and we're helping them along in that process we're getting the permitting process taken care of we're helping them with RightWay permits and they're actually interested in doing some things in a couple of a couple of the outskirt neighborhoods in the city of Wilston and again as we discussed at
the very beginning there's no attempt to block anyone from the market we want to beat people on price and service so yeah cuz they they said you know just we haven't heard anything from them you know they came in put stuff in and I said well we're moving along with you
know with what the city's they they want people to pay 500 something dollars to council well you still if you remember though in that council meeting when they were in here their district manager whatever said there would be no penalties well unfortunately that wasn't
in writing notorized by a notary illegal notary in the state but from our understanding the people would have to buy out unless open infro were to say that they weren't bringing services in so our encouragement to someone who' signed a contract would be to contact
them ask them inwriting if they're going to be providing services and if they say not then probably it's in the customer's best interest to go out and say please remove your equipment from our property but I mean other than that I I mean I can't I can't answer that question and
our wires are going pole to- pole some are some aren and in the design that Performance Services did and through the engineering there are going to be certain areas that are going to go underground so for example The Crossings the reason why there's a little bit more is because we don't have power PS through there their power is under now
we're going to utilize a lot of the conduit that they already have in existence but there is going to have to be some development of some further conduit so that's going to be put underground and as we told Council as future developments done and we grow we would be putting as much of that underground moving forward and then same
thing like if an aerial line here on herit Heritage Park one day went down underground at that time we would put in part of that cost the cost of putting the fiber underground as well Aaron yeah I received a call from a lady today um in Flemington just east of us who was
questioning about open infro and said she had heard that they weren't coming to Williston I I told her I couldn't tell her anything official I didn't know anything but she had called them and they advised her it was going to cost her $2,000 to cancel her contract not
500 got Mr Mayor that's what I said don't sign a contract I also called open infra and I I said I have been told that you're not coming into
Willison and I was assured and I've got the telephone number to both people that they are surely going to come into Williston and they expect to have the service ready to go by June now they
could be lying you could be misunder mistaken I don't know the facts but I I have the phone number for the higher ups and open open infra and uh I called them I said you know I just want to
know uh and there's been a lot of talk about this $500 if they don't perform they're going to have a hard time collecting $500 and I don't know if anybody remembers it but we were assured
there would be no penalties right right here in the council probably have it on tape we have it on tape we got it in right we were assured there would be no penalties I am one of the people that signed with them and being who I am I
insisted on giving me their phone numbers to their higher ups not just the guys digging the ditch and they did and I have called them two or three times uh said you know what's he said he gave me the reasons I won't bore everybody with
him but he said we are still planning to go to Williston and we did intend to have everything there by June and I wouldn't discount anything the mayor said all I would say is that from the staff's perspective we haven't received any right away permits and there's been no engineering or anything turned into
any of us that I'm aware of and as Central Florida finds out there is a process to that so I mean if they started today I really don't know how that would be possible they're coming from Melrose I think if I remember correctly they have to build service from Melrose right question so how are you going to go about determining which
sector you start with uh the highest take great and that's going to be the northeast of town from Northwest main that way and then southeast part of town from South Main East so we're going to take care of the Northeast and the southeast because there's the highest concentration and density of customers
when you get into the southwest and the Northwest everybody's really more spread out the the lot sizes are much larger so we were going to Target on what's the best Roi or or return on investment so it's based on the amount of people that you think that you'll be able well you have the middle Mile and the last file
that will be built and constructed but when we talk about connecting specific customers we're going to Target large quantities of them that's why the two techs will be hired so in Performance Services and Hector can answer to this more specifically but uh we're paying the fiber contractor so much money to do
so many connections directly to the customer meaning they're going to come in install the main stuff and then they're going to go right up to the house with the nid and basically get a customer connected and there's so many of those in the contract originally I believe it was 500 500 and then with the
crossings being added that number increased um CU we want them automatically connected cuz when they come in we're going to be the internet provider because and that we can guarantee we're the internet provider but the density is going to be from here to the city limits out to 13th street
where the old middle school is all the Northeast quadrant and then the southeast quadrant including the Arbors on the southwest side is that is that including County the County Section we we are going to only provide for for our current customers uh first in the city
limits and then the goal would be to expand beyond that that'll give us time to do poll attachment agreements I would love to go out to the county line uh but that will require us to get poll attachments agreements with Clay Electric we've just started negotiations with them they have presented that they
are not interested in getting into the Fiber space like some of the other co-ops like Central Florida and so we're going to negotiate being the neighbor and kind of try and go that direction but we feel like we have responsibility to deal with the four quadrants of town that we have before we expand beyond
that what's the blue lines uh which page are you looking at page six page six I believe that's the middle mile that's the loop that that feeds everybody everybody would feed off of that I believe off of the blue line
that's correct yes yeah yes that's correct yes that's kind of like your um that's your backbone basically basically your spinal spinal cord and then you know all the customers be the veins and all the nerves going off of that okay anybody else have any
questions yes we going to need to make a motion go ahead I make a motion we approve re resolution 20 25-38 all right got a first got a second any other
discussion any discussion for anyway no anyway all right I think we ran off all the public comment okay all right C we're going to move to vote all in favor say I I I those oppose
I four to one four to one it was the one are you a one I didn't have a chance to read it I just got it this morning and I was work all day so I didn't get a chance to read a can't on something I didn't read I
figured a lot of it was stuff that we've been over h i mean I can read it now we discussed it for all right item seven public participation okay none item me announcement staff yes yes
ma'am um last week Dophin is at I'm sorry vice president Hines and I attended a conference in Orlando and I just want to let everyone know that she was elected as assistant treasurer for the Florida Black Caucus of local
elected officials woohoo so congratulations and again and I want to thank everyone that helped out with the parade and the ceremony for Quan Mitchell everyone did a great job and I appreciate all the
help that I received thank you okay any other staff no Mikey Miller anything okay Mikey Miller oh boy you got it now um
Council no all right Mr Right mayor he's gone all right make a motion I'll take a motion for first second all right those in favor say
I the time is now 910 p.m. and this meeting is adjourned