Good evening. This is Tuesday, November 4th, 2025 at 6:01 p.m. We're here for our city council meeting. Um, we're going to call to order. Can I get the roll call, Miss Right. Good evening. Mayor Goodman.
Council President Hines >> here. >> Vice President Cox. >> Hello. Yes. >> Council member Jones >> here. >> Council member Martin >> present. >> Council member Rikio >> here. >> City Manager Sue Bodette >> here.
>> Attorney Kirsten Belaloo >> here. >> City Clerk Latricia Wright, I am here. And all other staff >> here. >> Thank you. We will now have the opening prayer and pledge of allegiance to the flag mayor Charles Goodman
everybody with their own ideas. Let all ideas give this council the wisdom that they need the best choice. They work very hard at what they do and under that you give them to shield and
protect them and what I >> pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. >> Item number one, any additions, deletions, changes, and approval of the agenda? If none, I would make a motion that we
approve the agenda as published. A second. >> We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say I. I. >> All those opposed say nay. Motion passes 5 to zero.
Item number two, mayor student of the month, Mayor Charles Goodman. >> That would be me. >> That would be you. Okay. Wake up. Wake up. [Music] I have a computer adjuster at home. It's
called a hammer. >> Good evening everybody. >> Good evening. Cade Covert. Hi, young man. Come on up here and join me. >> Cover. Cover.
>> Cover. Should have asked that part, too, right? Come on up here. Hi. I'm honored to meet you. I have something I wanted to tell you. You were nominated by Mrs. ires
who made the following comments. Paid Covert is a sweet and kindergarten who brightens his classroom and our school each day with his caring nature
and his cheerful spirit. Want to read it? I'll do it right there. He is very bright, obviously, always eager to learn, and quick to lend a helping hand to his
classmates. Cade shows great patience and maturity, especially during the recent transition between teachers. He has handled the change with resilience. That's a really
big word. Do you know what it means? I was hoping you could tell me. With resilience and always has a smile on his face. We are so proud of Cade for his hard work, his kindness,
and his perseverance. Cave, these people behind me is the city council. And for them, I would like to present you this. If you will hold it so everyone
can see it up there and it says outstanding student award, city of Willis, Florida. This is to certify it's hard. >> You're like you want to read >> that. This is to certify that Cab Covert
is awarded the certificate for academic excellence, leadership, citizenship, and attendance at Williston Elementary School. I think Joyce Bulock Elementary School.
Hey, you got to work with me here, buddy. In addition, Kade, I have this. Do you know where Flamingo Freeze is? The ice cream place right over there.
Flamingo Freeze would like to congratulate Kade, the student of the month, for his outstanding achievement with this certificate. Good for one kids meal or anything off the ice cream menu. Say if you wanted to give an ice cream
to your mom, you know, from Flamingo Breeze. May I give this to you also? You keep it behind that one. We're going they're going to want to take pictures of this one person. So take this. Very good.
Stay right here with me. Okay. Thank you, Trevor Gonzalez. There he is. Now, Trevor, you got to take it easy on me. Kate is running through the ring here.
>> Trevor was nominated by Miss Seal, who made the following comments. Trevor is a hard-working and self-motivated student who consistently puts forth his best effort.
That takes a lot. In everything he does, he approaches each task with focus and determination, demonstrating his strong sense of responsibility and pride in his work.
Very good. In addition to his individual dedication, Trevor is a supportive and encouraging peer who willingly offers help to classmates and
contributes positively to the overall classroom environment. His positive attitude and collaborative spirit. You know what that mean? You ask I I would probably mess it up.
And collaborative spirit makes him a valued member of the class. Trevor. Trevor, don't turn this away so I can't read it. Okay. But I would like to give it to you. This is the outstanding
student award presented by Charles Goodman, mayor, city of Willist. This is to certify that Trevor Gonzalez is awarded this certificate for academic excellence, leadership, citizenship,
and attendance at Williston Elementary School. Given this fourth day of November, 2025, Charles Goodton, mayor, city of Could we get a hand for
Now, Trevor, I know you heard this already, but Flamingo Freeze would like to congratulate you for your outstanding achievement with a certificate. Good for one kids meal or anything off the ice cream menu for mom. Ice cream menu from
Flamingo Freeze. And would you put this behind that? We're going to want to take pictures of all. Okay. Thank you. [Applause] Cody, are you here? I have a distinct
feeling that Cody Irwin is not here. Cody Irwin gone once, twice. I get his flamingo freak. No. Okay. Well, just so everybody knows about Cody, he is a fifth grader and he
was nominated by a group of people. Look, I can only read what's on this paper. >> Yeah, he can't be. >> He's a 12th grader. >> He just got a promotion because he's such a great student. >> It's a battlefield promotion straight to
12th grade. >> He was nominated by Chief Richardson, Miss Mrs. Bobby Grallen, Mr. Steve Arrow here and Miss Jody Nagel
who made some really nice comments. The quiet professional. His commitment to organizing our sports competition was exceptional, bringing great credit to the school and our program as we receive
visitors from three neighboring counties. Great job, Cody. So, in his absence, maybe he's watching you. Would you please give Toby a hand? [Applause] [Applause]
All right. For all those who would like to leave at this time, you are free to go as we continue with our agenda. Congratulations, young men, or you can stay.
>> All right. So, we're going to move forward with item number three, public participation. This is the first of two times that you can come and speak on anything that is not on the agenda. You have a five minutes.
>> Do we have any takers? Good evening everyone. >> Hi. >> I would just like to stand and say thank everyone participated in any way with our movie annual movie at Pavilion Faza. It worked out great. We had walking
through. We had It was just fun. So, thank you everyone. Thank you again. >> Thank you, Miss Apple. Do we have anyone else? All right. So, item number four, the consent agenda, council minutes from
September 16, 2025. Council minutes from October 7th, 2025. And council minutes from October 21st, 2025. I make a motion to approve. Have a motion in a second. All those in favor say I.
>> I. All those opposed say nay. >> Motion passes five to zero. Now we'll have updates from the staff and board and council. We'll start with city manager Sou Day. >> Thank you very much, Madam President. All right. a couple of updates and then
I'm actually going to let Walt um speak at the end. Uh I just wanted to let you guys know uh two Wednesdays ago on October 22nd I attended uh Swany River League of Cities Board of Directors meeting and um found out that the city manager for the city of Cross City um
advised that they had hosted a booth at rural counties day um for 2026. So I asked Alisha to register the city of Wilson for a booth as well. So we are now registered. We're going to have a booth. Um I think it's 10 by 20 if I'm not mistaken. So we're going to showcase both the city on one side of it and the
fiber on the other side of it. So we're pretty excited because there's not very many cities for showcase at rural count today. So that's the first thing. And then um last Wednesday on October 29th, they attended the Ocala Metro Chamber and Economic Partner orientation. Um, so we became a chamber member uh about a
week ago right now or a week ago. And they're a very active chamber in our area. In 2020, they actually won the um chamber of the year award for midsize metros in the entire United States. They have 1,300 chamber members and they host a number of events. They've got Tuesday
talks, leadership programs, young professionals, C business Business after hours, networking university, etc., etc. So, we're trying to um basically attract some new development to the city like at the airport, new businesses, new developments, whatever we can do to try
and get some, you know, positive growth in the city. So, um that's why we joined that chamber. And then I'm going to default to uh defer to Walt Nickel for um a discussion on the flood plane update and adoption. >> Walt Nickel at Great Pierce. Uh we were
um as you're aware back on October 3rd uh we submitted a grant request to Southwest Florida Water Management District uh for their cooperative funding initiative grant to adopt the flood plane studies that were done and get them officially recorded with with
FEMA. So we submit that on October 2nd. uh the district reached out to us Friday afternoon um with some information and and questions. When we submitted the grant, we submitted for 100% grant
reimbursement because you are already community requesting that any part, you know, in kind contribution be waved. They came back and said even though you're a ready community, they would want a 25% cost share. If you were a
non- ready community, they're asking 50%. So, they wouldn't wave it entirely, but they cut it in half to 25%. So, that uh that grant request that we put in was for $277,600. So, that would mean a grant um city
share of $69,400. Um and right now, I'm giving you this as information. I'm going to come back to you in two weeks. This is actually on the agenda for a discussion so forth. Uh the good news about this I mean their
grant program takes an entire year to get authorized. So we applied October October of 2026 is when they expect to have executed agreements and everything signed and and done. So you would have need to do the cost share. You decide to
go forward with it. you have essentially a year. You got the next year's budgeting process to consider that. But they do need to know they're doing the scoring here. November 22nd is the end of the scoring. And if you if you have a
resolution that you be committed to that, which again I'll bring to you in two weeks. Um that would pretty much I can't speak for that, but that's one of the looked at very favorable. I can't say
today, but they're they're scoring, but this commitment will be needed. So, I'm giving you the update. We just found out about a Friday afternoon. Giving you the update now, and then I'll be back here in two weeks for more.
And the other grants we've applied for, I think, eight or nine. We haven't heard anything yet. >> Thanks, All [Music] right. Next, we'll have Miss Right. Mine is not really an update, but it's a announcement.
Tuesday, November the 11th at 10:00, we're having our Veterans Day program at Heritage Park. We have a very good uh well-known speaker. looking forward to hearing them speak and they're going to be a special
presentation. So, if anyone's not doing anything on Tuesday, November the 11th at 10, please come out and let's honor all of our veterans. >> Thank
Chief, you have anything? >> Chief Seagull? >> Yes, ma'am. I just want to let the council know that uh the staff fire department put in for a grant for some uh fire hose through the division of forestry. This was a budgeted item stuff
we were going to buy. Anyway, um Danny led the way in going in and we got approved for $7500 worth of fire hose and it's only going to cost us about 3,000 a little over $3,000. So he did a really good job of getting all that put
together for us to get it turned in. Yes, ma'am. >> How much does a fire hose cost per foot? Out of curiosity. >> Well, I'm not sure. We got 2950T rolls for $7,000. >> Wow, >> that's pretty good.
>> Very good. Thank you. It usually goes by the size of the roll. If if it's a 50 foot, 100 foot and also the inch 3 in 3 in hose, 22 and inch and 3/4
>> 518 a foot. >> He saved us a lot of money. >> Yeah. >> All right. Any other staff? >> Mr. Barber, >> I wanted to give an update. Um staff had a pre-construction meeting on the uh
lake out here in front of the pavilion. Um we met with uh one of the we met with the representative from the company that's providing the material where we'll be able to inlay a pipe and and drain all that properly. Um just wanted to give you guys a timeline on that.
It's about a three week to order it. It's going to take about a week to finalize the plan. So, we're hoping probably um in about 30 days to begin to do construction in that. We we want to make sure we're on the other side of the light up Williston because that section of parking will have to be closed for
probably a month, month and a half in order to complete the job. But once it's done, we shouldn't have any more standing water over there. Um so, that's the first thing. And then the second thing was um Walt mentioned grants. I wanted to mention one that we uh found out about through Right Pierce. Um and
then uh Lucas from Wright Pierce went to the webinar. Uh it is the land and water conservation fund grant. This program is um a grant that we've identified that would be a great opportunity for Cornelius Williams Park to further the master plan there. Uh, I
just want to make the council aware that it is a 5050 match, but um, whatever we could come up with, we could apply for matching funds. Um, and it it is a potential opportunity that we'd have a really good chance at at at being awarded. So, we'll provide more
information on that probably the next agenda or the one after that, but I just wanted to mention that. >> Thank you, Mr. Barber. >> Madame President, may I ask a question? >> Sure. Mr. Barber,
I know that you could be a man of great capability. I just want to know what are we going to do with the water? Is it going into the sewer or down the hill? >> We're uh putting in a commercial grade French drain and it was the wonderful CRA here in Willist that is paying for
this project. Um, and basically we're just going to create an a commercial grade uh grate that'll be uh slightly inclined. And so that entire linear path there where that swale is will basically go to the already existing inlet and
it'll drain where it's supposed to drain. Basically the general >> and may I ask where it's supposed to drain? the great that's about uh two spaces from the handicap spot on the uh south side of the pavil >> ultimately into our sewer system.
>> No sir, into the storm water system. >> So it will go into a holding pond that is >> so that that storm water system works its way uh down northwest second a and it makes it to the fugit pit.
>> Thank you very much. Yes, sir. Anything from council? >> Um, you know, me and my questions are always the same. I know we've got the bidding going on for uptown, but can you
tell me when the deadline is and if you have any nibbles? I will defer to um >> I believe the deadline was December 16th for um bids to go in. It was a 45day bid. >> Okay. Have we heard from anybody? I mean, I
realize the deadline's not up yet. >> I I could check with Nikki. I don't think that central bidding releases bids until the clos >> until they're finished. Okay. >> All right. I'm still looking for a copy of what we put up.
Um, somebody sent me proof that it was up, which is not what I was looking for at all. I want to read what we put up. >> Okay. The >> What are we asking for? Yes. I would love to see that. >> Yep. >> And I'm sure everybody else would, too, because I don't think any of us actually saw it. >> It it I don't think it changed at all
from the very last time that you all saw it and approved the language. >> Okay. >> But I I will resend it. >> I appreciate it. Thank you. >> I think that's all I have. Yes, of course with the grants and when
we have to put money towards it. First question is do we have the money to do it according to C >> in terms of the one that W's talking about? You mean the 69,000 check?
>> Yeah. Or any of them that have a you know where we have to put cash. >> Yep. I will start with him. >> Um I know when we've hired a couple of people for different positions, um the amount of people replying or
applying for a job is if I understand is low. We're not getting many people. So I'm just curious on the permit tech, how many people did we actually get for that? >> Zero. >> None.
>> None. Which permit >> the permit tech? I thought we got at least one that I know of. Kim's not here tonight. I will double check, but we didn't when I talked to you two weeks ago, we didn't have any. And unless somebody sent something in after I I don't think we had any.
>> Okay. >> But I will double check that. >> All right. >> Anyone else on the council? Um, I just want to say I drove by the John Henry Park today and it looked very beautiful. It's freshly mowed and we waxed and looked very inviting. So,
thank you to everybody in over there. And I'll comment about Peggy O'Neal. It looks wonderful, too. It's still got a little ways to go, but it would be great. exercise. >> One more thing >> to the Wilks Construction Company. Thank
you for getting the manhole cover even with the ground. Hear a lot of compliments on it. >> Chief Rose, >> well, I guess this will be an update uh on the cameras and the school zones. So get ready.
Uh excited >> since we went live. 109 since the cameras have went up 687 tickets. >> How many paid? >> I don't know yet. >> Oh yeah, our city clerk got one of those
tickets. >> Oh my. >> So were all those warnings or they were tickets after the warning period? Those were tickets. >> Yeah. Right. Yeah, go ahead. [Music]
>> So the 687 were the warning period. That was the 30 days that you would get the paper in the mail. Hey, this is a warning. You were going this fast. The 109 are the actual citations that they have. >> Oh, gee. >> Nice. >> Arizona, what's the time frame for the
109? >> Um, so it was a 30-day warning period. So, we went September 22nd to October 22nd, and that was the 687 citations of everyone just getting warnings. Hey, you're going 11 over in the school zone.
And then the 109 is the one that >> So 109 since the 22nd of October. Holy cow. It's a wonder they're not It's a wonder they're not lying in the room. I happen to know that the only reason the clerk did it was she was wanting to
donate to the police department. >> I I I think she told me she was testing the cameras in the system. >> I think it worked. Awesome. Okay, >> Mr. Mayor, you have anything? >> Thank you.
>> Really? Honestly, I do have a couple of things I wanted to talk about. It it it has to do with my fine chief here of police and my fine fire chief
who are both I I just don't think we really understand the amount of money that they save our city by their connections and move looking outside trying to find grants trying to find equipment that other municipalities do
not need. Uh both of them I'm very proud of and I just wanted everybody to know that they are saving us not me us a lot of money. >> Thank you so much. Thank
all right if we have nothing for further we're going to go to item number six new business. We'll have a presentation of grant writing services by Shannon Williams with Gateway Writing. >> Good evening everyone.
>> I Is this? >> Yes. >> Okay, good. I will say I don't know that I've enjoyed the conference before. I've been I've been having a really good time, but >> that's pretty bad. >> I know. I know. I know because I've been to a lot, but I enjoy these children every day. But yes, I am Shannon
Williams with Gateway Grant Writing and Administration Services. Very long title. I'm the director um the owner of the Yeah. And I was told that everything was all digital. So I didn't bring the copies. Do you have your packets? Okay. Awesome. >> Awesome. So yeah, I just wanted to take
a few minutes because I know I was told it take hours so I wasn't prepared to to spend a lot of time but want to just um present my services to the to this city and um and just introduce who I am. Again, I'm Shannon Lee. I am native to
Lake City, Florida. I've um been there forever. My family is generational there. I think I'm seventh generation. So, we've been there for a very long time. And um I have I started Gateway Grant Writing um about almost four years ago now. I
used to write grants for a civil engineering firm and I left that firm because I wanted to pursue my doctoral degree which I defended yesterday. So, I'm Dr. >> All right. Yeah, I did it yesterday.
>> Yes. Yes, you're FSU. So, I'm Dr. Shannon actually. I have to get used to that. So, when I left that firm and I and I went to just start um my degree, all of my clients were like, "No, no, no. We need you. We need you. We need you." So, I ended up opening Gate. That's how Gateway Grant Writing
started. And um I actually probably the only person that loves to write grants, but I'm excited just being here today how many staff members that you all have that are are just absolutely uh capable and and just great at writing grants. So I'm almost like
but but um my services extend across the board. I've been writing for uh cities and counties of course Lake City, Lake City, Columbia County, um Orange Park. I'm on the uh the team for the W3C while
staff thing that you know the pipeline situation that's going there helping them find $150 million. So that's one of the things that I'm doing. So now that I have all this time and school is over, I wanted to come down and see how I could help the city of Wilston. And um I don't
know which page on probably like 23 or so. There's just a list of several grants that are standard that I I always write. And I always like to kind of just get a wish list from the the the city, the board, you know, what's going on in your district that you feel like you
need to, you know, you want me to find funding for, and I come back with that and match those up with funding opportunities and see if you can get some of those um projects off that >> Yeah, I'm sorry. It's a big packet. And
I didn't know >> like this, but I Yeah, >> that's the one. That's the one. Yeah. So, the the the CDBGs are standard, the HMGP, any kind of hazard mitigation uh grants that are going on right now. Of course, I do recreation peraf and and
voting uh historical libraries, um tech technical assistance grants, um rural infrastructure, all of those things. So, um that is who Gateway Grant Writing is. And I do love and I have a passion for rural
cities and counties and but with that understanding I know we are always strapped for funds and we have you know budgetary issues. I do think that that is not an excuse for us to have outstanding service when it comes to you know for our residents and citizens. So
I like to focus on the rural county. I also work um in a capacity that I like to write the grants without for no cost. the application themselves and with the with the opportunity to secure the grant
administration and those uh those grants are one it gives you you know it motivates me to write a great application right because that's the way that I like to I like to work I work I I attend meetings all the time it just I can't uh charge500 or $1,000 for an
application when you know the the baseball team needs uniforms you know you there are things that are going on that people people need and I know that it the best way to approach grants for Gateway Grant Writing Institute is to do it that way. So I like to open up the
floor to questions or um maybe just kind of write down some projects that you'd like me to go find some funding for if you have time or I can speak with and get that information. Any questions?
I would just say that is a wonderful way to work and that's the way I appreciate having a grant writer. Um sometimes they're hard to come by that will that will do it that way these days. >> Yeah. >> Um they used to be all that way, you know, and you would get the opportunity
to be the grant administrator. I will say that one of our biggest issues I believe is knowing what grants available out there to apply for. say, uh, having somebody that's in the field and out there doing it may be of great benefit
because they can help us. We do get, of course, things from state of Florida, thanks from Florida League, National League, even um, telling us what's available and from the Florida Department of Transportation, that sort of thing. But it's really good to have
it somewhere that's not just one of those things in your email. >> I agree. I've been trying to figure out a way maybe some type of a monthly or by by monthly newsletter that everything's in one place and you can scan down it and see the due dates and see what the
um match requirement are anchor and then you know because ideas pop up in your head that way for this >> and thank thankful for the great engineering that we have. We have a lot of data and analysis and things that are available
>> uh that would write a great grant as long as we had somebody who knew about it and who could get it done. >> Do I have a question? >> Yeah. >> I'm going to be the bad guy here. >> Okay. >> We have a grand writer. >> Have you been promised this to do this
for us? >> Oh, no. I have not. I am here just to extend just to to tell you who I am. The services are here. Um, a lot of, uh, towns or cities that I approach, if they've already had an RFP process or
they're, um, you know, getting ready to to start an RFP process, they work with me as a vendor. If they need me, they'll call me and contact me and and whatever fees there are, which are pretty minimal, and it's just on the application side. Um, the only application that I've ever had to truly
uh send any type of a uh invoice for a CDBG because they're a little specific on making sure that if you're using someone who's woman or minority own that they're actually being offered. So, um, other than that, no, I haven't been promised anything. I haven't promised anything. I'm just here to present
services and um, you know, see if there's anything that >> and I'm not sure who's our grant writer. red. >> Well, we've used him for the with the same with the same understanding. He writes and if we get it, >> we offer them on the administration.
>> Yeah, we hadn't used him in quite a while, but >> So, in full disclosure, I'll I'll explain why Shannon's here tonight. So, Shannon um I met her a few years ago because again, she was one of the grant writers for the Walkasa project from Bronson to Cedar Key. Then we also um
had her on board for the town of Bronson. Um with Laura being gone, I mean Laura was kind of our in-house grant writer. Shann and I have been talking for probably six months. She's been very tied up with her PhD understandably. Um but this would be Fred Fox. Again, we use him in Bronson.
We use him here. His main focus is app and CBG. That's pretty much entirely what he does. And then obviously we have Wright Pierce. Um, but Shannon would just be another kind of third, you know, person to use. Um, she has other kind of areas of expertise and, um, she's great
to work with. I've known her for a couple years now, but um, if you guys do decide you want to go move forward, again, you know, she said there's no cost. She puts her, you know, cost into the grants itself. And um we can actually do she provided us I did put in the packet because it would have made the packet another 100 pages but we have
a piggyback um I think it's from Lake City that we can piggyback off of to avoid going through the RFP process. >> Um but that's basically I just wanted her to to come in and kind of explain you know what she does and I think it's great the more grant writers that we can have because the more the better at this
point. I mean again red boxes right >> correct they do. I would say I would be interested in more so kind of specifically for community park to see if we can get more grants related to out there. We've been trying to work with
that part for upwards of five six years and we're not really getting anywhere. I know there are some other things that have fallen into place, but when we look at funding or talk about funding, I don't think a lot has been really gathered related to
that specific park like other parks have been because I guess it's just a little bit easier. Um, so I would be interested in you working with Donald and Sue to try to get a little bit more
funding for that park as well. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, definitely. But that is something I would like to see that >> all those things. >> I just I want to say that with um the recent cuts through Doge to a lot of the
programs and with the possible um lost property taxes which is coming, we now know for sure on the November 2026 ballot, you know, we might be in a huge financial hole going forward. So I think having
an army of people looking for funding for us. It's the best things we could do to stay, you know, as >> hopefully as solvent as possible for as long as possible. I would agree with more than >> Is there anything in particular we need
to do? Just consensus. >> If you all are want to move forward, we can bring back the piggy back. >> Okay, sounds good. >> All right. >> Okay. Well, it's kind of enjoy to laugh about, but thank you all for
your time and I look forward to working. >> Awesome. Thank you for coming. >> All right. At this time, we'll have an open public hearing and we're going to defer to city attorney Kirsten Blue. >> Thank you, Madam President.
This is resolution 2025-128. A resolution of the city of Willist, Florida, authorizing the providing of communication services by the city of Willist, Florida, making certain findings of fact regarding factors considered by the city council related to providing communication services. Making certain findings regarding notice
provided of hearings. Adopting findings and other information included in the business plan attached here too. Adopting findings and other information included in the presentation attached here too. Recognizing the authority to issue bonds under certain circumstances. Making certain findings regarding allowable pricing. Making certain
findings regarding accounting, budgeting, and cost allocation plan requirements. Acknowledging restrictions on use of eminent domain. Requiring annual review and certain actions in four years. If certain requirements are not met, acknowledging other statutory requirements, providing for conflict,
severability, and an effective date. So listen, you're telling me. Yeah. One I've ever seen. >> So this is uh is actually very exciting part of the process in providing fiber. Before we are able to provide fiber
which is actually giving the services and receiving money. Uh we have to pass this resolution. We have to make certain findings. We have to you know follow state law. Um but this is coming before you because we're really kind of close to that step of actually providing
fiber. Um, so I know that everyone's been really excited about that. So, we are excited about it as well. Um, the resolution in front of you, um, in accordance with Florida law, we're going to consider it at two public hearings. So, it'll be this hearing and then December 16th will be our next hearing.
We had an opening in there in the resolution because we weren't quite sure. Um, we're advertising that um, as well, so everyone will be made aware. Um we've advertised it in accordance with Florida law which includes alerting the public service commission and the department of revenue and it's been uh
we've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get here but we are very excited to be here. Um there are certain findings that I am going to read for the record so that everyone knows that we have considered them and then Hector will give a presentation um to you all
regarding um those considerations that you're supposed to take into account. Um and then we'll pass this resolution on sort of like a ordinance. We'll pass it on first reading tonight if you all choose and then it'll be um passed again on second reading on December 16th if
that makes sense. So the factors that you are required to consider and that we will be discussing in the presentation tonight are whether the service that is provided or proposed to be provided is currently being offered in the community and if so whether the service is generally available. whether a similar
service is currently being offered and if so whether the service is generally available throughout the community. If the same or similar service is not currently offered whether any other service provider proposes to offer the same or similar service and if so what assurances that service provider is willing or able to offer regarding the
same or similar service. The capital investment required by the governmental agency to provide the communication services the estimated realistic cost of operation and maintenance using a full cost accounting method. estimated realistic revenues and expenses in providing the service and proposed method of financing. And then the
private and public costs and benefits of providing the service by a private entity or a governmental a entity including the effect on existing and future jobs, actual economic development prospects, taxbased growth, education and public health. And I will hand it over to Hector to talk about all those
very exciting things. Good evening, Madam President, Vice President, Council members, Mayor that Pearson just just described. And so I'm going to be brief with this presentation. My point, the purpose is
just to touch on those things and share with you just how those things are being met. So I'm going to start by this first one, just the very top bullet. uh city would made a very smart decision back in 2023 when they hired lit communities to do this study to figure
out just what was going on with broadband in the community. Was it needed? What kind of technical requirements were there? What kind of financial requirements was there? Just to get a better a better understanding of what was out there and with the sole purpose that you see in that first bullet uh to so the city could realize
it mission to ensure that city of Willis is well positioned to meet current and future needs of it resident businesses and anchor institutions. Next slide. So in addition to doing that market survey, they did a lot of lit communities looked at a lot of data provided by the Federal
Communications Commission. And I just wanted to share a couple of slides for where that data came from. You go on to the next slide and then the one after that. And what they found was who's providing that
service today. Uh you saw Century Link, you see Century Link, Hughes, T-Mobile, and there may be others that are coming around. That's what they found that was existing today. Um, and you can see the numbers of the speed that was being provided. 100 megabytes uh and then 10
on the uh downloads upload time. Thank you. So that's what they found and you go on to the next slide. Probably the most important thing that they did find in that market survey was that you see the numbers here. Sure. 91 almost 92%
had uh had internet service, but if you look at the there at the bottom, almost 90% of the residents, those that were surveyed said that we would absolutely pay more or would absolutely consider paying more for faster, more reliable
service. 90%. Only 10% 10.3% were said that they were not willing to pay more. Next slide. And why is that? Why were they willing to pay more? Uh they're at the very bottom because 81% over 81% were their
speed were below the FCC Federal Communication Commission feed requirement. So if you're, you know, really that slow, sure, you're going to want to pay more. So market was there. Uh and it's great to know that the market is there. So you go on to the next slide. But what was the uh where
were where did things stand on the technical side? Could you do it? And of course on the financial side, how much was it going to cost? So the need was there. So they looked at the technical side. They looked both at the tier three and tier four to your middle and last mile assessment. They looked at the
number of anchor anchor institutions. They looked at I'm sorry the make ready which is again on the technical side. If you're going to hang fiber, could your post support that? They couldn't support it or had to replace all your poles. You needed to know that because that's going to be a cost. So all that was part of
the study. you go on to the next slide. They looked at several financial models really the uh owner operator models and you look at that I know you can't read it but you just think green is good and you looked at the various models that were available and I know you can't see
it but I have two of them that were highlighted in red only that bottom one where it says user revenue opportunities the city that left column city provided fiber to the home network that's the only one where the city could actually control not only the ability ility to
make some revenues to control the rates which is very very important because of course third parties came in here they would charge whatever they wanted to charge so that was important next slide so when they looked at the financial how much was it going to cost they had three
models you see them that 6.1 7.4 4 and 2.1 on the owner operator model, but they did find that that that owner operator model could potentially generate about $22.7 million over 20 years. So that was one that kind of stood out. You can go on to the next
one. So given the the technical the technical assessment looking at the the surveys looking at the financial the communities came back very very clear about what they recommended and they recommended that the city pursue owner
operator model and had several reasons you can see there on the slide for why you would do that because you were already a service provider water electric on both so you had the infrastructure you had the service service knowhow so that's uh what they recommended for for various reasons.
Next slide. But, you know, I'm doing your due diligence. You did look at some other options. You did have other folks come in here and present it. I mean, that that was a great way to look at things because before you you jumped into being the owner operator, you wanted to see
what would it cost, what would it generate if somebody else did the work. So, you did that and that was uh done back in July of 2024. So at the end of at the end of it, next slide, looking at that owner operator mo model, this is what the path that has
that you have opted to pursue. It's not a $6.1 million investment that you saw in that study. It's actually a $4.6 million investment. Um, but it included all the things you see there. So it's a smaller investment. You can go to the next
slide. Uh and what was important to note is that we looked at these and I'll just point out that you looked at the uh column column number nine the annual operating cost was one of the things that had to be talked about. You looked at that
operating cost and then you looked at column 12 is this thing paying for itself? Is it covering your cost? And you can see there in column 12 that it's it's it's starting out with year one covering cost by by $24,000. And those
numbers are going to improve depending on what you want to charge. You can control that. Again, this is yours. So you can control your rates as you look at how many customers or accounts that you have and how that continues to grow. Next one. This is just a the long-term
20-year look. that survey thought it could said if you could make $22 million over 20 years. This is a pretty conservative cash flow model. You can see the numbers. It's about 9 about 9.8 at the end of 20 years. But again, this is heading on number of
customers, but more importantly the rates that you want to charge. So this is again the conservative estimate. Last slide again touching on those things that are in that are in that resolution. Uh so in addition to being able to control the rate which is a huge
benefit. Some of the other benefits that that uh are good to highlight jobs this is now a city owned and operated service. You get you get to hire the techs. You get to run the operation. You get to manage it and as it grows you get
to employ more and more people. You want to offer it outside the city limits again in the future you get to do that. uh tax base. I think we all know that if internet is high speeded reliable internet is not available, not only residents but businesses are going to be
uh hardressed to want to move move in here. Um so u and when you think about where you were before at 81.6 below the the SEC speed requirements advancing and implementing fibers is
important going to be important to your tax base. Last thing is that education and public uh health. You know, you had those those kids here, Kate and and Trevor here earlier, and being able to, you know, they're doing wonderful, but now you're providing that high-speed 1
million speeds, you know, all the better. I had to rely on psychopedia about the rest of those were the days. Uh much different now. But you know for the education um I think we all know that not only uh well education we all
know that since co more and more of us are working from home and having that high speed internet is so so important. Um in the study it said that it's uh crucial for socioeconomic progress in the community uh for your anchor institutions
and um and tell health you know as far as health is concerned I I'm starting to do more and more of that I think it's great that you can have a video conference with your doctor with your your TA and figure out you know what's going on with you one it's immediate to do that right away without having to
make a trip make an appointment so certainly on the health and education side very very important And that concludes my presentation. Kirstston, if I've touched on everything, if I missed anything, let me know. >> No, I think I think you've covered everything. I I wanted to just make a
couple of other notes. One, we have um business plans. Those are in your agenda. Those are in addition to this presentation, sort of an overview, but the business plan is much more in-depth and detailed for you all. It's also available to the public. So, we have copies here, copies online. Um, I I
really can't uh express to you how unusual it is for a municipality to be able to meet all of the extremely stringent requirements to be permitted to provide fiber services. You have to be profitable in four years. You have
to, you know, you you can't do what a private company would do, which is undercut in the beginning and then come in at actual cost later on. So only a handful of municipalities like two others are able to meet the requirements
that Hector and your staff have have somehow manage to um to set you all up to be able to meet. So it really is extremely impressive um what you all have done here. [Applause] >> The numbers that are um in the presentation aren't the numbers that we
are actually going with. That's something that we have to decide on or is that those numbers? >> Yeah. Yes, those are the numbers. Now the cash flow. >> So every year we're going to be increasing That is entirely
>> that is the plan in these documents >> that each year there's an increase >> 2.5% >> CPI >> every year% >> so the question is yeah are we is that
our plan to increase every year >> yeah I think you said it correctly it's your plan and you can change that as you see fit um as your co if your cost for CPI goes up not only housing cost fuel cost whatever it may be you can make
those determination every year so this is >> okay >> conservative projection and even at this these rates you're still going to you're still say you're even I mean I'm looking at year 10 you're still lower than what some of these other you know other other
providers wanted to provide I mean >> right >> some of your competition was already starting at about8 $81. >> I will say that you have to do an annual review of of this process every year. So, so you have the ability to change this at any time, but there will be at
least one open public hearing where you consider all of this. This is just the plan as it's laid out right now. >> Okay. So, yeah, that's what I want to know because I mean, even with the crabiest service that you have, it's not
increasing every year. You you understand what I'm saying? So that was that's just a question that I have >> and mine is way more. If you look at the 20-y year price 95, I'm paying more than that right now.
>> And my and it's Centry Lake and it's awful. >> Well, I don't pay that and it's still awful. >> You have no problem. Just just questions. You're not impressed. >> Yes, sir. This is where it talks about what the
president was talking about about 2.5% increase. My question is about the next line. Annual debt service continued with interestonly payments in year one and two
and followed by a fixed annual payments of $392,377 annually. Does that pay this loan off in 20 years or is that like annually perpetuity? >> No. No. 20 years. So this 392,000
plus plus that's calculated to pay this loan off in 20 years. >> Yes sir. >> Thank you. >> Fixed payment. >> Could Could we paid more than that? >> AB absolutely. >> If you want to donate
>> donate what? >> No. I mean we we have profit and if we have $260,000 in profit then we could take $100,000. I'm just saying not really, but we can take $100,000 and pay another $100,000 to pay it off a little bit sooner. That's
>> the question asking. >> The question is, is there prepayment pen? No. No penalties. >> There is none. >> No prepayment penalties. No. >> We were hedging our bets when we put together that loan. We thought we might be able to do something like that. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. >> Yes. >> So, the motion would be to adopt resolution 128 if that's what you choose. >> I would make a motion we adapt
resolution 2025-128. >> A second. >> All right. We have a first and a second. Any discussion from the public? Any discussion from the council? Seeing none, I move a vote. All those in favor say I. I.
>> All those opposed say nay. >> Motion passes five to zero. Now close public hearing. >> All right. Resolution 2025-125 resolution of the city council of the city of Wilson, Florida, relating to the
state revolving fund loan program authorizing exe execution of amendment one to loan agreement WW380610 between the state of Florida Department of Environmental Protection and the city
of Wilston providing for a conflict for conflict seability and effective city attorney Kirst. >> So, I'll I'll default to um staff for more specifics, but essentially what
this does is we need a little bit more time um in order to get all of our planning together for this project and state revolving fund has agreed to allow us to extend our deadlines um under the loan agreement so that we can get the planning piece of this in place and then
continue on. So it doesn't change any of any of the substantive numbers. It's just sort of the the timeline for it. [Music] >> Thank you. >> I I can answer a little bit more on that. So um initially uh the SRF of
course was studying out um the 40s and 50 areas of pipe uh within the regions all four quadrants of the city. And the purpose of the SRF uh for this round was to focus exclusively on the sewer. In studying that out, when we got the initial feedback, we met with Wright
Pierce um Antonio Serbia was here a couple month, I think a month ago and talked to you all about this. Uh there were specific places on maps that we identified that were unknowns and we talked about like with development in the future, we wouldn't want to stop
short of a certain area. We wanted to do a little bit more due diligence and spread out our scope on the outskirts of some of those areas so that if we're going to apply for this and it's a big ask and we get 80% forgiveness, we wanted to make sure it was the best ask and the best use of that investment and
we didn't leave out key economic areas around the city in doing that. So the extension is simply to make sure we formalize our our our data so that we present the best option of funding to the council for consideration before we
ask the SRF for a large number. Um right now that number sits at around 22 million that we've identified. Uh but we wanted to make sure that's exactly where where we were recommending that it be before we presented it and applied for the final loan.
>> Thank you Mr. There any questions? I get a motion. >> I move approval of resolution 2025-1025. >> I second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any discussion from the public?
Any further discussion from the council? Seeing none, I move to vote. All those in favor say I. I. >> All those opposed say nay. >> Motion passes 5. Resolution 2025-126,
a resolution of the city council of city of Wilson, Florida, approving the mapping and loss estimations of of the Williston sewer treatment waste plant digesttor oxid oxidation ditch clarifier and line ponds and
approval for set of vision. Is that correct? Set of vision set authorizing appropriate parties to sign any document required to effectuate saying on behalf of the city of Wilston pri and effectate public source
administrator Donald Barber. >> Thank you council president. Um this is a program that the city participated in 2022. It was after the first stage of our plant upgrades. We had completed those in 2021 and the
council at that time had approved a similar document. Uh in order for set a division to go through a state funding process and they do it all free of charge, uh they have to get council's uh permission that we want them to do this service for us. Uh once if you all agree
to uh pass the resolution, we will turn this over to set and they will go through that program this year. And this is what cleans out the things that you mentioned, the oxidation ditches, the sledge pits, all that. And what that does for us if we do that every so many
years at no cost for free, they do a thermal vision of it. They see what areas have collected things that aren't flowing with the flow and they remove those and remediate those. and that actually increases capacity in your plant. So that's that's something that every so many years is a really good
maintenance uh policy to have and um we think it's a wonderful program and it doesn't cost a thing. >> Thank any questions from council a motion. I make a motion that we approve resolution
2025-16. >> Have a motion and a second. Any discussion from the public? Any further discussion from the council? >> I just had a quick question. Um, is there a date at which they will do this? I I may have missed it in the documents,
but >> No, ma'am. So, this is just the first step in giving them permission to apply for it on our behalf. Um once they apply, they would tell us whether we were approved this year. Um there's a lot of funding for this, so chances we have a really good chance of it. Then once it was awarded, they would make a
presentation and they would notify us and we would schedule with them. Um it would most likely be in 2026. It's not going to happen in the next two months, but >> All right. Move to vote. All those in favor say I.
I. All those opposed say nay. Motion passes 5 to zero. >> Now we have discussion with possible action. Willis city hall build out city manager z. >> Thank you madam president. Okay so I
know this has been a topic of conversation for a while. So wanted to kind of tell you where we're at and and why it's in the council packet tonight. Um, first and foremost, Mike Langston from Paradigm Construction is here tonight to answer questions about the quote that's in your packet. Thank you for coming, Mike. Appreciate it. Um,
just to let you know, the staff has reached out to several other um, general contractors, including Rich, which uh, wrote the original city hall here, and we have not been successful in obtaining other quotes due to the size. Most of these firms want, you know, multi-million dollar contracts. So, um,
we haven't been able to get any other quotes other than from Mike. Um, in the past, the city has completed a number of projects with the city staff instead of actually farming it out to a contractor with subs without a building permit. And
I want to give you guys some examples. These were all prey, but just to kind of um for people who aren't for on the council or for the audience, um, some of the projects included the Williston sewer plant. We did electric flooring, HVAC, plumbing over at that plant. Again, this is without a permit. um the
inmate shed, the city pavilions, the EV charging station, the fence at the animal shelter, and the demolition of the old workshop next to fireman's park, uh the ADA compliant sidewalks and aprons at the Willis Public Library. And then most recently, I think about a year
ago, the demolition of the Pesos pawn shop. So, those were all projects that I believe the council construct uh asked the staff to um to do, and those were all without a permit. So, this project, if the council's interested in moving forward, of course, this is entirely up
to you because of the cost associated with it um being around $16,000. The goal is going to be to put both of our administrative assistants, both Jenna and Christy, into that workspace. So, that again is directly in front of um Donald's office. If you guys are not interested in moving forward due to the
cost, completely understand. Um, building official Mike St has told us that we will have to get a demolition permit to demolish the existing work that has already occurred by our staff. So, that's where we're at. And like I said, Mike Winston is here to answer any questions about the impact.
>> Does anyone from the council have any questions? In the past, we were told about it, but with this was not said anything to the council >> as far as what
>> the destruction of the wall >> and I understand that and of course I I that's entirely up to me. I did not notify you guys. I had no idea what the cost was going to be. Obviously, this would have been a much cheaper project if we had done it in-house. We're thinking it would probably be, I
don't know, a couple thousand, $4,000, something like that. This is going to be obviously a lot more expensive now that it's going to Mike because we have to pull permits because he's a licensed general contractor. Completely understand. Um, again, the staff has been advised now at the last department head meeting that we are not to make any
changes to city hall without approval from the council. >> And I think that's >> Yes. Unders understood. >> Completely understood. But there is a conversation to be had here as well about the fact that we've been doing all of these projects with no. >> Thank you.
>> So, >> Madame President, >> are you done? >> May I speak >> in just a second? Are you done? >> Okay. Yes, sir. >> Here's the issue that is before this council. We make everybody else pull permits and
we want to present to the community that we don't need to pull a permit. That is not that is against state law. We have to pull permit. And I understood I have been aware of all the other including the old
city hall all the work that was done without permits. And my point when I found out about this one is we need to stop that. We need to start doing it right if we're asking everybody else to do it right. And that is the reason this
whole thing started. Thank you. >> And I could tell you that I know we've done that work, but I had no idea we had gotten permits. That's not for us to do. >> I understand. I had no idea that all those projects had no permit. >> Correct. I understand. Just full
disclosure, just letting everybody know where we're at and how we got here. >> All the employees, all the employees knew. >> Now, I'm not saying the council knew. I'm saying all the employees knew that they didn't pull permits or any of that work. >> It's not their job. >> Heard that since then.
>> It is in fact the supervisor's responsibility. And we've never held supervisors accountable. And that's fine. That's the council's prerogative. But I am just bringing this up because I would like to
see this practice stopped because it's not fair to our citizens. >> Understood. >> That's state law as you said. >> Yeah. >> And again, so when I found out about this, Mike and I went and put a stop work order. It has been on, as you have seen, for several weeks now until we
could get a quote from Mike. He's been working on this for the last several weeks. >> So my question is, why do we need an office? Why do we need to build out an office or a space? What's wrong with the space as it is? >> It's open. There are some confidential
materials that are in there. So, from what I've been told, and Donald can kind of back me up a little bit on this, this was originally a storage area. Now, obviously, we've had to use it because we have some additional staff that's back there and there is some confidential information. So, we would like some doors and walls up if
possible. Can the confidential information go into the supervisor's office? >> I mean, why why why are we making an effort to spend money to change >> what things look like so that >> I can answer that.
>> Just just put it into a location that's already locked. >> I I can answer that. There was an entire designated area for the tools and equipment and files that the city manager is referring to. That closet now houses all the infrastructure for
Willist Fiber, which you just heard about earlier tonight. So, it's become a server room and it can't have all those things in it. So, we literally have no place. It's not even a matter of staff. We're running out of room. Uh Latricia can verify the same thing with stuff on the other side of the hallway. We're
running out of closet space as the city has gotten involved in more programs and more things. So, uh there was a shed that was purchased, authorized. Um, that shed was meant to house things that we can't fit in city hall. Uh, we're running out of room. I mean, when the
design of this building was done and it was brought before the council at that time, the the purpose of this building was actually to have a second story eventually that because of cost was gutted uh in some of the final stages, but there was always an intention to
grow city hall as the services and departments grew because of growth in the city. Um, but we're running out of space. I mean, we've maximized all the space that we have uh that that's available. >> So, if if we're running out of space, we have space at the front up here where
the clerk sit all that space in the back. If we're looking for places to house sensitive information, then have a location back there for sensitive information. Is there really a need to build out an
whole new office just for sensation? You have an office. Jonathan has an office. Our administrative clerk over here does not have an office. So why are we wasting city money for office space that we don't really need? Well, Miss, I
wouldn't I wouldn't say it's a waste. It's it's an open space that's not useful for many things other than storage, which we no longer have the room to do. And we're not building an office. We're closing in two walls. That's what we're doing. Actually, it's one wall and then windows. So, it's
again when the staff that approached this, it was a couple of thousand. Now, obviously with a contractor, it's a lot more than that. But go ahead. >> If sir, if you'll come to the mic. >> If you'll wait till you get the mic. So,
so the thing I think you miss when it comes to projects is it's just it seems like it's just let's frame something up and then it's done, right? We spend $2,000. That's not it at all. Charles, you're a builder, right? You got drawings you got to go after. You have certain specifications. You have so many different pieces that go in these
projects. So, I put, for instance, with this situation, the project cost total was 13,000. That's just actual cost of the job. my margin is 22%. Which equals $3,138. Now, you divide it by six weeks and you
got $500 a week, right? That's minimum wage, right? So, this is what we're looking at here with uh with this project. So, you have like you have framing concerns. You have drywall concerns. You have acoustical insulation. The ceiling grid needs to be fixed. You have to protect the floor.
You got to plastic off the hall. You got to put a zip wall in there. You have uh tempered glass windows, four tempered glass windows. You have a solid core door that's ordered six weeks lead time. So, there's so many different pieces to this project. So, I mean, I'm just saying that to say that it's more than
just let's throw a couple thousand dollars and you have a an office space or you got permitting concerns, you got dumpster rentals, you got all these different things that go into these projects. So, either way, to build this office, it would be if it was actual cost, like I said, it would be $13,000
to just just have subcontractors do it. Get your drawings done, get your permits done, get all this stuff done, right? Um because I don't want you to think because I I kept hearing and this is I'm like just because I'm a general contractor don't mean I'm trying to like stick it to anybody. I'm trying to like be super fair with a super low profit
margin on this project, you know? So I don't want it to be like Paradigm's coming in and they're going to try to get what they can get out of situation. So that's part of it too is defense of that. It's like I'm really just trying to come in a part of the community for a while. I have the license and the ability to leverage the license to help.
I want to help. You know what I mean? So that's that's it at the end of the day. Now, I understand it's taxpayer money that that needs to take care of the situation and office space, but from the project perspective, not the funding perspective, it's probably the best deal you would get to build that office out. So, there you go.
>> Thank you for that explanation. My question still remains, why do we need to build an office space? >> Correct. That is that is my concern. Why do why? >> Yes, sir. >> When you're finished, >> Sure. The question is why do we need to
spend money? Any money whether it's it's whether it's a discount, we're not paying a whole lot of money. Why do we need to spend the money for an office for two people to sit in to do their job?
>> I'll even add to that. Why do we need an office for two administrative assistants when we have supervisors who don't have an office? Okay, that >> we'll even add to that. >> We have Laura's old office >> that can be available.
>> So, is there a space? >> See, >> well, we are putting just FYI, we are putting Mike in Selena's old office. So, now Mike will have his office. >> Who's Mike? Mike >> Miller. Mike Miller. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, he is getting an office. He just has no chance to move into it yet, I don't
believe. Um, and Laura does come in a couple days a week and she does use her office, but yes, we could certainly use that office. >> Yeah, cuz the inspector, whoever does he when he's here, >> she works right in that office right now. >> Okay. So, we could do the same. >> Okay.
>> And we still have space. All that space, that empty space that's just sitting there. >> Shelby, you can go to the mic and we'll get you in a second. But all that empty space back there, that space we can utilize. for staff. We have to utilize what we
have instead of making space when we don't have to make space. That's all I'm saying. >> That's that's my perspective. >> And the money is coming from which >> Mr. Mayor. >> Thank you.
>> The issue that we have to face is the reality of now. We have spent the money to build what we have. I was unaware of this project and I understand your conversation is relevant. However, we
have spent the money. Now, we will spend the money to tear everything out. And I don't know what those costs are. I've not looked at this project. I've not been into it. But it can't be just cheap to put everything back. So now you've
got the cost of all the the wages for the people that did it. You got the cost of the materials that you have bought to do this and now you're going to have the cost again to tear it all down. That should be considered in
the equation of business profitability which is better for you as a council. Is it better to build half of it, tear it down, or is it better to build half of it illegally and then just finish the
dog on job? uh you know from a business point of view my position is you've started it shouldn't have been started but now that we are where we are today you should really consider continuing the project and getting it finished and
we can always use this space >> how about we figure out how much it takes to tear it down instead of just saying it may or may not cost XYZ >> and what how much did we spend to build it >> to build it >> materials and labor
So those are the costs that you need to consider if you choose ideal >> question because >> do I understand that it's got to come out anyway because you want to put up metal stuff. >> Yeah. Existing is >> so the wood the wood that's there has got to come out anyway. You want to put up metal stuff.
>> Yeah. It's got to be metal. >> Yeah. That's what I was agreeing. >> Unless we can see >> Yeah. Oh, >> she pointed that way. Sorry. >> Sorry. Excuse me, >> Miss Meredith. >> Um, my question is for these administrative assistants, are they also the people who will be doing customer
service for fiber or is that not who will be sitting in these rooms? >> So, uh, yes ma'am, they deal with fiber. Um, we keep mentioning administrative assistance. Uh, we have When Terry reorganized, he created two
additional supervisor positions. They didn't have offices. We've created two fiber techs. They didn't have offices. We have the IT uh assistant who's training underneath Aaron. He didn't have an office. We had uh the uh second
administrative position that was this budget which didn't have an office. So, it's it's not a matter of saying that we were not utilizing the space that we have. Um, and as far as putting people out behind customer service, I don't have an issue with that. But unfortunately, some of the things that
we handle are confidential. They're not just confidential for employees. They're confidential for the public. So, there are certain things, like I'll give you an example. The administrative assistants work with gas and power. That's the public service commission. There are federal and state rules that
if that information and those reports get out to the public without going through a proper process and procedure, that that's a violation of the law. on. We can be flagged for that when we are inspected. There are leak reports. There are all kinds of things that have to go
through a process. So again, I have confidential records in my office. Jonathan does, Mike does, but we're in a secured area because of the door here. Once you say go behind customer service, the problem with that is during the day that is not a secured area. Anybody can
hop that counter. Anybody can access that area uh if they wanted to. So that's part of the problem that we have. But I mean this isn't this isn't just administrative positions. This is >> how big is your office and how big is John's office? Can two of you share an office? >> We can do whatever you would like us to
do, but my office is packed. >> I'm just asking the question. >> No, I understand. I have no problem with that. It's It's not my office. It's the city's office. It's not my office. It's the city's office. I mean, I I'm pretty packed in where I I am. Um nobody can come into my office and say I have a bunch of of of square footage that's not
being used. Um, you know, I don't think you can barely get into Aaron's office. Um, you know, uh, Jonathan's office, I mean, you know, I I don't I don't I'm not going to answer about his office, but Mike's in a small cubby hole. Even when he moves into Selena's office, Selena,
when she had all of her stuff and her records was packed in there. Um, again, we've added positions. This isn't just about another administrative assistant. We're trying to figure out where to put these things and stay in compliance. And we had a storage space that Danny
Wallace was able to get us climate controlled containers and we moved a lot of that storage equipment out out to the sewer plant. We put those containers out there. They're air conditioned and we freed up space for human bodies to do work for the city and that's where we
ended up. And of course, you know, it's totally up to you all, but I mean, we wouldn't be asking for space if we didn't need the space. We're not wasteful. >> So I Okay. and and and my question was just that I do think um the reason my question was about customer service is I do think that it's important that when
we have people answering phone calls for customer service particularly with Williston fiber which is something that's really important that we get off on the right foot we have excellent customer service we um have very focused staff I do >> visible
>> I say they're visible >> well if not visible they they certainly are not interrupted um I do think It's important for them to have space in which to work where there are as few interruptions as possible and they can do the best job as possible. I'm not opposed to adding more office space. The
city is growing. Our utilities that we're offering are growing. The number of residents in the city are growing. So, we are going to need more space. I think it would be wise for us future core to think about how we're going to handle that. Maybe the airport coming
into play at some point in time because I know they've got offices over just because you guys have offices. Ben's like giving me the devil horn stare here. >> But yeah, but you know, I mean, just in in terms of looking >> well, but looking at the spaces that we have that we we want. I'm not talking about the new airport. I'm talking about
the old airport um the old airport building. Just being creative. Sorry, I take that back. But being creative. >> I'll release you whatever you want. >> Right. Well, exactly. You know. Yeah. But but you know exactly but looking at the spaces that we have and having a strategic plan going forward. But that's
not the issue tonight. The issue tonight is this project unfortunately was started in such a way that it's going to cost the city money because it wasn't done right. We can't fix that. That that's that ship sailed. So the question is like do we go ahead and commit this
money to making these rooms useful or do we tear it down and then have to revisit needing the space again? a year from now when you know we need the space a year from now. >> But wouldn't isn't the space useful as
>> I've been Have you been back there? >> I have. >> It wasn't It was just a stack of Tupper wares. I'm not going to lie. >> It was but that's not what it is now. And if they move stuff to put stuff and put stuff in different location, now you've opened up a space in order for
desk to be put in that space. If we're going to tear it down anyway just to put something else back up, we just might as well tear it down and leave it down and not spend the extra money. >> Go ahead. >> Would you like to go first? >> I would just like something.
>> Oh, okay. So, I would just like to say that we, as we said earlier, are struggling to get people to apply for open positions. And what the city of Willist pays its
employees is embarrassingly low. And if we're already going to pay people a low amount and then say, "Oh, and by the way, you're a supervisor. You have to share an office." That's like another slap in the face. Nobody here wants to share an office with anybody else. Like
we can find this money. I don't know if Stephen's on asking where we can find the money or if it's going to be something that benefits Wilson Fiber. Maybe we can roll that into Will Fiverr. I don't know. But you can't say we're not going to spend this money and have
people sharing offices. That's ridiculous. I'll say it again. Like I said last time, it's 2025. People that are working are entitled to have a space to work that is their own space. So if they want to go in their office and scream into a pillow, they can do that. If they want to go into their office and
do work, they can do that. They don't have somebody else in their office. That's my T. >> Do you have something to say before I speak? >> Yes. >> Go ahead. >> So the administrators, one of them, which ones work in the
fiber side? There are two Fiverr techs for Fiverr and then there's an IT assistant and then of course you have your IT director. >> But I mean I'm sorry. >> The uh I misspoke on the IT part of
>> Jenna. She's administrator. >> Yes. Yes sir. >> Which side is she working? she work in. >> So they're she she and and Christie right now uh the next couple months they're working on every division together to be trained and they're going to stay up rest of each other's you know so that when one's not there or one's on
a conference or one's uh doing a report so they're they're going to both be working on all sectors but what they're going to do is they're going to have point person and this was by Jonathan Jonathan asked them to each take so Christy I believe is taking water gas
collections the waste plant, storm water. So, she's taking that those five. Uh Jenna was going to be lead and doing the invoicing and the reporting for electric, for fiber, for facilities, for roads, and for parks. So, those five.
So, they were taking the 10 divisions. They were splitting them up. one is playing primary to the other, but then they both still have to stay a breast of everything to be able to fill in and back up in case there's any kind of issue with vacation or anything of that nature. So that's that's how Jonathan
had decided that he was breaking apart their dues. >> Okay. I thought that one was going to be designated for um you know for fiber. Well, that's both of them, but Jenna is going to be the lead in fiber because fiber and electric are
so closely related. >> Okay. And one other question. Where did all the money come from? >> So, we have spent I want to say somewhere around two or three,000 thus far on the project. Um, moving forward,
our intention would be to split this between >> five divisions, $3,000. and we have the money in our in our budgets currently. >> Hold that thought. You you can actually come up there, but you just have to hold that thought. So,
this is what I'm going to say. We're not hiring people to make them comfortable. We're hiring people for them to do a job. 2025, 2027, 2029, it does not matter. We're hiring people to do a job. Sometimes you have to share space with
people. So, that being said, why not? Okay, maybe Donald and and Jonathan don't need to be in a space together. That's fine. But >> um
>> yeah, that that that's that's fine. Um but do we really have to build an office for two other people to sit in? even if they sat in the back back there after removing everything cuz you got to remove it anyway regardless. Um they're
in a space where nobody can overhear these sensitive things that are not supposed to be said in the public. Make them a nice little office space without building an office. remove.
>> Yes, Mr. Aaron. >> Well, that's exactly what they're trying to do. They're trying to close in an open area and make it a private office that they can conduct their work and not be disturbed by all the work and the workers coming in and out that's that's disturbing them. And there's com
conversations they may be having that are just out in the open. It'd be like sitting there at your desk trying to be an administrative assistant doing your job with everybody coming in and out of here and continuing going to the bathroom or getting a drink or doing what they do. >> I do it currently. So therefore I do it
currently. So therefore that's not my job. >> That is not an a reason to build an office. I mean feel how you feel. I'm just saying Joby. >> Okay. Why can't you move? >> Sorry, Mr. Penny. Why can't you move it
and the new ser Kow link or whatever it is the new internet service and move it out to the airport? They got plenty of space temporarily because eventually they're going to need to going to need a new building in the, you know, in the next two years with all the growth. I
mean, Benton's got plenty of room over there. I mean, instead of wasting our tax dollars and our money, I would look into that. >> It needs to be remodeled. before the old FBI is leaking like a >> I'm talking about into the new building. He's got a couple
that's not >> Ben. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Thank you, Joy. >> So, I'm glad you mentioned the the FBO renovation. Kirstston and and I have been working on getting the developers agreement together, a contract together uh for Paradigm to remodel that.
>> When was that awarded? How was that? >> When? >> Yeah, >> a while back. Yeah, in the spring or something. >> It's been a little bit, but we we'll finish it up pretty soon. I'm confident in that. >> Um, so the problem that we would face with bringing stuff like that out to the
airport is if it's a commercial operation, you have to pay a rental rate. >> So, it's not going to be free to just >> move out to the airport. Uh and and then you get hit with, you know, right now we're we're looking at like $500 in
office for uh you know, for the old FBO. So you are not taking nothing. >> It's funny guy back here. >> Any any other discussion? >> Thank you. >> Back hold up back to it. just I came up
here because I kept hearing you got a contractor involved, you got a contractor involved and now this prices escalated. I I just, you know, it got to me because I'm like, you know, that's not the case in this situation. So, I'm trying to protect my own reputation at the same time. All right. >> I don't think that's what it was. It wasn't personal. Definitely not.
>> But I just kept hearing contractor got a contractor involved >> because we need a contract if we're going to do it. But yeah, >> so thoughts So my I already know my thought but any other discussion thought discussion I >> yeah I mean I guess I would I would
reiterate that I think regardless of whether we need these offices now there's no doubt that in the future we are going to need more offices and the price of things they're only going to go up. So, if we've already started the process now, why would we not just go ahead, bite the bullet, finish the
process, come up with a strategic plan for how we're going to deal with space going forward so that we can do this in an economically efficient way. But I think we're just going to be revisiting this in a year and a half of building more office space. So,
>> because we're always biting the bullet. >> Yeah, but that >> because we're always biting the bullet when things come up. Bite the bullet and just pay for it. bite the bullet and just pay for it. At what point does it stop? >> It doesn't stop because we keep growing. >> It needs to stop.
>> We have the money for it. He said that they can take $3,000 from each department and that covers the money. So, I think we just make a vote and be done with it because we're not going to get solving it right now. So, we just need to vote and move on.
>> The as many questions as you like. We have time. No, no, no. >> The drain that's on the where the shed will go, is that going to be an issue since it looks like the back
of the shed is going to be even with the the drain that's out there? >> Uh the storm water you're referring to? >> Yes. >> Uh the storm water won't be affected and and the lime rock once it's uh it's set. Um the intention was to put top soil and
then uh for erosion control to put sod so it would just look like a hill and it was going to sit on sod. >> Okay. >> Yes sir. >> So what do we want? >> That was my question. Did we get a permit for the sh >> to answer the question? Yes.
>> I'm sorry you told me to ask next question. All right. Any any other discussion? So, what would we like to do? Just do we need a motion? Do we need a what do we need for this? I >> mean, I think your staff needs some
direction on how you want them to. Do you want them to spend money and tear the wall down? Do you want them to move forward with the project? What what do you want them to do? But or if you want more information on what the tear down is going to cost, then we can come back to the next meeting. You just need to give them something.
>> We have to tear it down no matter what. I don't know. And according to Mike's thing, it's not included in his bid. >> Yeah. I mean, you're gonna have to make it >> we're tearing it down because he did very specifically put that in there. >> So, I would like to see a cost of if you want to speak, go to the podium. I would
like to see a cost of how much it's going to cost to tear it down. And then how much Mike, you're not you're not doing any of the tear down. >> Okay. So y'all just remember she's already got $3,000 invested in it and then they're
talking about putting $17,000 more into it. This is a, you know, a total of almost $20,000 to tear down >> a couple of walls. >> I'm just 17,000. >> It's in No, it's 3,000. She's already
spent $3,000. And then there's going to be 17,000 on top of that. >> Plus the demo. >> Yes. >> Plus the demo. >> Plus the demo. >> And plus the demo. So we're looking at probably like $30,000 probably or 28,000.
>> I'm just saying. >> Yes, Miss Right. >> Okay. You might not want to hear what I have to say. >> Probably not. Long >> that. That's okay. Um, have you all ever called your credit card company and they're working from
home and in the background you hear kids or the dog barking? This is what customers are going to hear if they're calling in to sign up for Wisdom Fiber.
They're going to hear the guys coming in through the back door talking about >> Yes. Exactly. And then that customer is going to say, "Are you at work or where where are you? Are you at home?" So, please think about
that. I've experienced calls with people working from home and their dog is either barking or their kids are very extremely loud and she basically couldn't hear what I was saying. I couldn't understand what she was saying. So just also let's
remember we have noise cancelling headphones that could drown that out and we not have to they not have to deal with that or people not hear. Yes sir. >> I'm not trying to sell myself here but when I was younger I was an account specialist for Time Warner. So when
you're an account specialist you have you're dealing with the iate customers right? So if you're in a situation where you can't focus and you got somebody that's incredibly angry at you and you're trying to mitigate the the the anger and stuff it is difficult. I'm not trying to sell myself to build an office because I got other projects out, you
know what I mean? So, it's not it. But it is difficult when you're dealing with somebody because like when we were in training, right, the guy that was training us was like, I rateate. I'm like, all right, I've heard the term I rate, but I haven't I haven't heard the term I rate in like eight times in a sentence, right? Like he's like when the
I rate person calls. And so, finally, I was like, excuse me, what do what exactly do you mean by an I rate customer? And then he went into this long definition and all these messed up scenarios and then I had to deal with them, right? And I'm like, man, when somebody's I rateate and you're dealing with, could you imagine if your broadband's down, right? And somebody
calls you iate because they can't watch their Netflix show or something like that. So, I'm just saying I was a customer service rep, so I feel the individual that have to deal with that situation. >> Yes, ma'am. We also have I mean we have
so many um different businesses that have call centers. They're doing that with everybody in the room without an office. So it's not it's not
it would not be you know just the city that would be doing something of that nature. Yes ma'am. >> Hi. Um, I actually have been a customer service rep before working remotely, working from an in an office. If we're already having trouble getting people to
sign up for open positions that we have available now, if we have remote positions available in the future for these positions, you're going to be swimming with people actually applying for it because it's easier for them. They stated it earlier, they can go from
home. Um, it's no commute, less gas. There's lots of incentives for people to sign up for that position and it would be cheaper for the city because less money has to be poured into these offices that right now we don't need but in the future we will need if we get growth but that's just if we can get
people to sign up for the positions. So there's a lot of things to keep in mind um and also be open to different different ideas and remote is just one of them. There are services that provide just those on call services that you can
also look into as well. Might be cheaper than a full demolition and and new offices being built. So, I just ask that you consider all the different options and the pros and cons for going one route over the other. Remote is actually
a very good idea. And like you said, headphones, there's all different things. It's not just, oh, customers calling in. I've had a customer where they literally said, "Please put the phone down because I just want to yell at AT&T." I said, "Not a problem." I did that. Came back and he was so grateful that I let him just spew out what he
needed to spew out that he actually worked with me and I resolved the matter. So, it really just depends on how you approach it. And you don't want to just look at it like, oh, we're going to have a bunch of people super loud in here. They need, you know, a $20,000 suite, right? >> So, that's the only thing that I asked
to take into consideration. >> Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes, sir. So since we talked about the privacy part of it and bring it up about background noise, would it be uh better to split that into two offices? >> No sir. Um the collaboration between the
two of them and how intertwined what they handle is if you're asking me my opinion, I would say that it would be better that it stay a common space for the two of them. Um, oftent times when one deals with a situation, it's good that the other one's listening in because the other one may move on to a
different situation and the other one may be called to go back to that first situation and having that information and being aware of what's going on. That was the whole reason for duplicating this is there's so much work that it was not possible to be done by one person. We were we were going to start getting
behind on critical reports that uh we're required to do through D and Swift mud. And that's the other thing. This isn't to me about customer service. This is about we have two ladies back there that are responsible for doing reports that if we don't turn in can be not a couple thousand in fines. It can be $250,000
worth of fines because these are these are areas that can kill a lot of people. So they're responsible for producing these reports and collecting this data and doing equations and doing math and gathering data from our engineers and submitting work order reports and things
of that nature. So, um, that's just my opinion. >> So, what I would like to ask of you is that you go back and find out how much it's going to cost in order to remove demolition. The area has to be done
anyway. but um also give us an account of where this different money is going to be coming from, showing us that each department that it's coming from, they actually really do have the funds in order to support this. Um and then let
us revisit this again with that information. That's what I would like to see done. >> Yeah, because when um I first heard about it, I caught Stephen Can can I address that briefly? >> Yes, sir. Okay. There seems to be a
misconception that every line item in a budget is pre-planned. There is money in line item budgets, municipal, county, any other business that you have that are set aside for upcoming projects or the what-ifs. We have money in every
single budget that we put in for contingencies like this. council before has come to us and said, "Look, we've noticed a problem. We need to fix it. We have to have money for small things put away in budgets for different departments for those items." If y'all are asking us if five budgets have
$3,000, the answer is absolutely. You want verification of that? No problem. I can get that from Stephen. But that is not a significant amount of money. And we have thousands of dollars that we stack away that we hope we don't spend each year, but are there for the
whatifs? And unfortunately, the last couple years, we've had a lot of whatifs. We had you get go down. We had power make ready polls that had to be made. We had insurance rates that skyrocketed for different things. But the staff, all of us, every single department head here makes plans for
that. But if you're asking us to go through and show you line item by line item of what it was sequestered for, that that doesn't exist in any municipal or county agency. >> Thank you. What I will request though is in the
future as we are you're looking to hire people for different things that you're looking at the things that you're going to need in order to house those type people so that we're not coming back later saying we need this because of this that because of that. If you're
going to be managing and and doing um talking about projects, you need to have everything lined out so that when you come for money or you want to utilize or hire somebody, all that information is there, not coming after the fact. We
knew nothing when we looked at hiring two different two people for well, one person extra for the position that now we have to go and we have to build a room for it. You understand what I'm saying? >> We we didn't have that initial need. It was the other positions that created the
issue. It was the fiber coming on board. It was the IT person coming on board. It was I mean there are more than just that position that we hired. It was the collaboration of all >> things that you knew that you needed to do. You needed to hire these people. You needed places for fiber. So what I'm
saying is when you look at the project projects that you look at everything that you may or may not have to do related to that situation. That way you have a full understanding of what you potentially need and the council has it as well. So that when we have these
discussions, it's not these discussions. >> That that is a great You understand what I'm saying? >> Yes, ma'am. That is a fantastic idea and we started on that in July of this year. So in July of this year, >> Bill Young from Wright Pierce and Walt can verify is starting to build us
proposal. were waiting to have it because we knew that down the road we need to come up with a long-term vision of a staffing plan for public works and utilities. So, Wright Pierce was going to give us a proposal to study out the next 5 years, the next 10 years, the
next 20 years of perceived growth. As the city grows, you need more technicians, you need more field personnel, you need more linemen. So, we asked them to give us a proposal. And for the last couple of months, he's been building that proposal. We just haven't finalized it to be able to present to council. But to show you that we didn't
just make this up, that conversation occurred in July of this year. So, we are thinking about those things. Um, and I think that's a wonderful idea and we hope that we have your support when that proposal comes before you. >> Question number one, who who's in
Christiey's office? >> I'm I'm not >> Christie. >> So, who's in office? Yes. >> Right. Right now, Christy is >> Okay. So, who is the new office? Who are the new offices for? >> So, Christy and Jenna would share the
new office. >> What I thought I heard you say >> Mike is moving to Selena's. >> I heard that. >> Uh, >> who's going to Chris? Chris would go to where Mike was or take Christiey's office. >> Chris is the IT person. >> Yes. Because he has confidential things
and access to confidential stuff. Uh, and then we have a cubicle for crew leaders and supervisors that's there that need to be in there multiple times a day to check on work order statuses and whatnot. I mean, that we're we're very packed back there. We're we're not we're not wasting space back there. I
promise you, we got >> I would say Christiey's office is probably big enough for two people. >> Christiey's office, she can barely fit her own things in her office. >> That's because there's so much stuff in there. >> Files. >> Stuff that we're required to >> do other than files last time I looked.
Ma'am, every we have sofas in office. >> We have sofas in office. We have multiple chairs in office. We have we have credenzas in offices. >> And I'm not just talking hers, but but things that don't necessarily people have decorated their offices, I guess,
is what I'm trying to say. >> I I have one picture. >> Two people who need to be I'm not talking about yours. Yours is fairly small. >> U but Christiey's office is fairly good size. It's a 12 by 14 >> and two people could very easily go in a 12 by 14.
>> She has files upon files that are out in the hallway that we have to make sure the cabinets lock because she can't fit it in her office. There's not room for another desk. >> Then you need a file. I know you took this >> which we had and turned into the fiverr server room which has to be secured for
fiber infrastructure. I mean, listen, I you guys are I I support any decision y'all make. I'm just You're asking me a question. I'm giving you the answer. >> Okay. So, we're going to table this. Yes, Miss Latricia. Only if it's not about what we're talking about.
>> It is about what we're talking about. I got a question for you. >> You asked to revisit it at which meeting? The next meeting or December meeting? >> If the next meeting is full, the December meeting. >> Okay. I'll put it on for the December meeting.
>> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. We appreciate that. Is there anything else? Okay, we'll move forward. All right. So, item number seven, public participation. This is going to be your
second opportunity to speak on anything that was not on the agenda. Please step forward and say your name and where you're from. And you have five minutes. >> I'm Joel Penny. Uh my question is during the day, why don't we have a noise ordinance in the city of Willist?
>> We do. >> That's what the chief of police said. We do not >> because I have a person that drives by my house with a radio bloom bloom bloom and it busted my it cracked my window in my house and >> it's different after 10:00 at night. But
there are plenty of people who've gotten >> Well, you need to get that clarified with the chief of police because he says there's no ordinance. >> Chief, there's a question on the floor for you. >> Yes. >> Yes, I have. So, I went to his office
yesterday and we had a meeting and we would talk. Uh, he had told me that there is no Nor's ordinance. >> I did not tell you that. >> I told you the Nors ordinance is at 10:00. >> Yes. But you said there's none during the day, >> right? >> Which they said there is.
>> Used to. >> There is no norice through the day. >> So, you know something? >> I I have it right in front of me. or not um your noise ordinance and and it's it's different based on is it continuous
is and it's so it's not super clearcut. There are some >> decibel restrictions in daytime versus nighttime. But then you also have to consider continuous versus just >> for short periods of time etc. So it's
it's not a super civil answer to the question, >> but there are some restrictions during that. Yes, >> me and Joby had that discussion about is it somebody driving down a road or is it a continuous >> continuous >> continuous thing, which I explained that to him yesterday. This what he's
complaining about is somebody driving by his house. I said, Joe, by the time we get there to do a death, they're gone. >> Yeah. So there's no enforcement. If it's a block party and the noise is continuous, that's different. And I explained all this to him yesterday. So
I don't even know why he brought this up again. But >> well, my other question, >> we spent 30 minutes with this yesterday and I chased down some of his things that he told me. I mean, you want to put it out there, let's put it out there. So I chased down some of his other complaints that he made that turn out to be bogus. So, I'm dealing with him and
I've already addressed this with him and I don't think I need to waste any more time, Joe, because we talked about this for 30 minutes yesterday and I explained all that to you. Well, there's another thing, too, is Hardies. At night, every two weeks, they pressure wash uh there's cab reports that the police officers
come out there and they're pressure washing between 12 and 2 o'clock at night. Uh the police officers go over there. Uh the company tells the police officers that they have a letter written from the city of Willist stating that
they can run and pressure wash at night which I don't think the city would do that knowing there's a north ordinance at 10:00 and there is. So >> could have they produced the letter? Did you ask them? >> I asked for the letter.
>> I have I asked the officer that night if he could and he said it's up to the city. So, and I was like, well, I that's just another question I want to ask you because I didn't want to bring that to the chief. >> Oh, I've been there when they were pressure washing it and I didn't think it was all that bad. Of course, I don't live there, but I've been
>> Well, it's at like 2:00 in the morning. >> I know it was actually midnight. >> Yes. I It echoes through >> and I was sitting in the parking lot. >> It echoes through that hole. >> I didn't think it was that bad. >> You can live there. >> I wasn't trying to sleep. >> You can live there. You can tell me if it's bad. >> I wasn't trying to sleep, but I was in
the parking lot. >> Thank you. And they were on the roof doing it and it I tried to figure out what they were doing on the roof. >> Yes sir. >> I didn't even know what they were breaking in. >> Chris wrote 719 Northwest Second Avenue Wilson Florida. Answered that. I used to
work in a restaurant. So if by law they have to clean that sir and if they come in >> if you will address me. Thank you. Not Joby. >> I'm addressing the situation that every >> Okay. So when you address the situation please address. Are we not going to follow the rules of
>> our >> We are. That's why I'm asking you to address me and not him. >> Addressing the whole room. >> Listen, >> may I continue? >> As long as you as long as you address me, you absolutely can.
>> Everybody. >> Okay. So, the reason why that is is because by law, they have to have this one. They have to have them clean. And if it's at 2 in the morning, it's at 2 in the morning. Doesn't matter if it's breaking noise ordinance or not. If they don't
have that clean, the restaurant can be fined severely because it's a health hazard because you don't want grease dripping into your food while they're cooking. >> It doesn't matter. >> No, sir. We're not doing that. >> Y'all need to look at number seven on your agenda at the very bottom, please.
>> So, that's referring to the restaurant has to do it. If they have a problem, they can make a complaint to the restaurant, but it's still going to fall underneath where it has to be cleaned. Simple. Doesn't matter if the city allowed it or not. It's the restaurant. It's their property. They're on their
property. They're on their roof. They're doing their job. >> Thank you. >> Is there anyone else? Seeing none, we're going to move on. Announcements. Does anyone have any announcements?
Miss Patricia, >> just a reminder, uh, the Chamber of Commerce will be having their cleanup Williston Road 121 on Saturday, November the 8th. They will meet at the pavilion. you if anyone would like to participate
at please 9:00 >> 9 a.m. or PM >> it's 8 a.m. >> 8 a.m. >> 8 a.m. not p p.m. >> Thank you >> at the pavilion but they're going to be
cleaning up is it state road 121. So anyone that likes to participate I'm going to stop now because she both has different questions. >> I think they do. >> Well, I'm asking because if it's I'm trying to see if we need to provide some type of road blockage or something. So,
I'm >> see the city limits is what he said when he city limits. >> Okay. So, we do need to really he said to the city limit. Okay.
officer over there. That's why I was asking. >> Thank you. >> All right, Chief, do you have anything? >> Yes. >> I have some quick updates. Uh, one, >> I want to thank Triton Supply for giving
us a $500 donation. >> One, I received that on Saturday. >> Can you cash that? I turned in the actual check. >> I'm sorry. >> I turned in actual chat. Don't be quiet. >> So, I want to thank Practice Supply and their corporation for the $500 donation.
Um, also got another donation from Dunellum Police Department. They donated us a whole bunch of evidence supplies, uh, which saves us a lot of money. We don't have to go buy now. Uh today we talked about a little bit about having
people applying for jobs here. Uh I have dispatch position open and I had six interviews today. >> Wow. >> Uh very very good candidates. It's going to be hard to pick one or two out of there because they were all great. Telling you all
>> I wish. Well, I actually pass a couple on to HR or if she has some positions uh because I would really hate to lose them because they they were great people. They were great interviews. So, whichever ones I don't pick, I will pass on to HR. So, maybe if we have a position somewhere else, they could they
could be utilized there. Uh code enforcement, animal control. I want to give a quick brief on that since she's been to the PD. Uh she has 14 animal cases that she's worked. 13 of them are closed and one is still under
investigation. As far as code enforcement cases, she has 21 code enforcement cases. Six of them are closed, 15 are still open that she's currently working on now for a total of 36 calls for service that she's worked since she's been at PD. So, I wanted to
give her her props for jumping on it and being aggressive with it. And we've actually had citizens comment that they're glad to see that code enforcement is actually out enforcing the codes. So, that's >> And she's been with you what, two weeks to a month.
>> Uh about three weeks to a month now. >> Yeah. >> So, very good. I'm very proud of her. So, I just want to give y'all an update on that. >> And she class, didn't she? >> And she Oh, yeah. and she went to school, code enforcement school, and she completed it. Uh, it takes a couple
weeks for her to get her test results back. Hopefully, she passed it. Uh, right. And, uh, hopefully we have a certified code enforcement officer. >> Thank you. >> All right, Chief Seagull. Anyone else in the back, Miss Barber?
No one else. >> Madam President, >> I'm coming for you. I'm coming. I didn't forget you. I appreciate it, >> Miss Phip. >> Um, I just want to remind everyone um about our ethics training. I know the
last time I presented this, you all said, "Hey, we're out of town." So, we changed the date. It is December 18th. We want you all to be able to come. You're you are our biggest attendees every year from the city of Wilston. So, want to make sure that we we have our
peeps. um December 18th, 400 p.m. If you would like to RSVP, you can let me know. You can call my office and talk to Jasine or RSVP darkness. Um it'll be as wonderful as it always is. It will fulfill your requirements and it will
also fill your belly. >> I'll tell you if you've already been, which I know some of you have, you don't need to miss it. >> Yeah. Go again. Because it's fun. They make it fun. I I've been to some of the ones you either remotely do it on a TV or you go sit in a classroom. They are
so fun and we do it together which makes us all learn the same thing and keep each other straight. >> Anything from the council >> would you like to tell them about Santa Claus? signs >> because we're going to need to let our
council know so they can get >> tenatively scheduled for December the 12th, which is a Friday night. >> What is now? >> December the 12th. >> What is it? What is scheduled for December 12th? >> Hold on. The surprise is coming. >> Oh, well, I thought you said I missed
it. Sorry. >> No, not yet. We will be having paint painting with Santa >> December the 12th. No. >> At 6:00 p.m. >> And is this for adults or children? >> Adults are more than welcome to attend.
>> I don't understand. >> Can we paint with Santa? >> Nuts. You can paint with Santa. >> And what we're going to be uh what we have for the kids to paint our ornaments that we will have them put on the tree that would be placed at Heritage Park on
stage. So, mark your calendar. And like I said, adults are welcome. >> Who came up with that idea? >> Uh, Miss Council, Vice President, Council Cox. >> Nice. Nice. >> But we need we needed to do something more.
>> Yeah. >> Cuz other cities do stuff during the Christmas time, and you know, we have the parade, which is a great thing, >> but then it'd be something extra for the kids. Well, >> it's on December 8th gonna say, and I
couldn't figure out why she was saying it instead of you. Santa always rides around. >> Oh, Santa's on the 18th. Okay, cool. All right. And one more that Chief Rose would like for me to announce are the ones
he just reminded me to let the ones know that are signed up for Black Prong on Thursday night. The event is at 5:30. That's tomorrow. >> This Thursday? Wednesday.
>> Wednesday. I'm sorry. Wednesday. >> But it's this Thursday. >> Wednesday. Wednesday at 5:30. >> Tomorrow at 5:30. >> Yes. >> You're not there either. >> It is tomorrow. >> Tomorrow at 5:30. >> Awesome. >> So, please don't forget. And also,
please do not leave right away. I would like for Danny to take your picture. >> Okay. >> Uh Alexa, I I'll let you. >> Okay. We'll get you next time. So, if you could just give us a few minutes of your time, please.
>> That we adjourn. >> Wait, wait, wait. I have one I have one more thing to tell you that's kind of exciting. Just one more thing. I'm sorry. Um, so tomorrow Laura and I are having our pre-application meeting with Levy County about trying to have the Cornelius Williams Park
redefined as a pud, whatever word I'm supposed to have there. So, that's exciting. I mean, that Yeah, we finally got to that point. I'm not saying it's going to approve, right? >> So, you can explain to us next next um meeting what a putt is. >> I know what a detail. How does it qualify as a >> putt? Can can you explain it next
meeting? Mr. >> I want to know it now. >> Laura's probably going to be a better person to explain it, but it has something to it. >> We do have a motion on the floor. If we get it as a pud, then we don't have to go through all the reszoning or do the annexation, all the things we've been talking about doing it. >> AUD.
>> I I don't know. >> That's a usually two different >> HUD is mixed use. Put HUD is mixed use. >> Who said that >> that's how it qualifies because it would be mixed use. >> This was JB Pro's way of trying to get
around all of the hurdles that we've had over the last five years. >> But what is the second use though? So >> that's what I'm asking. >> Park >> I know park >> in a complex >> complex >> and then the museum concept that they want to do for the rebuild of the house.
So it's part museum. So there is mixed use in regards to its commercial operations. >> That's such a stretch. >> Well, we're going to try. >> And they told me the house couldn't be moved that it would fall down. >> It's not moving the house. It's rebuilding an exact replica of the house.
>> I second the motion. >> All right. So, we have a motion and we have a second. No further discussion. All we're going to move to vote. All those in favor of adjournment say I. >> I. >> I. All those opposed eyes have 5 to zero. Thank you. Have a
good night. It says 6 I mean 8:08 p.m. >> 2008. 8:08 p.m. Chris, >> high speed. I forgot.