consent items. I'll call on our city clerk, Verne Larson. Mr. Mayor, council members, tonight for your approval, I have the city council minutes of October 6th of 25. The planning commission meeting minutes of October 8th 25 as a draft. The Wilmer
Municipal Utilities Commission minutes of October 132. The Blue Cross Blue Shield of Minnesota sponsorship funding for community growth led special events. The accounts payable report of 10225 through 101425. And for your information, I have the
review planning commission applicant applicant Stacy Peterson finance report through 9:3025. the Wilmer Municipal Utilities Finance Report through a for August 2025 and the director's reports.
Motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. Got a motion and a second. Discussion. Tom. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, as reading through the reports, I found the uh uh planning uh report very interesting. And
I'd like to pull that and have our uh planning director uh Christopher uh present a little bit about that American Planning Association state conference that took place here in W. All right. Anything else?
Roll call. Council member Nelson. Hi. Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. Davis. Hi. Butterfield. Hi. Schultz. Hi. And Osk. Hi.
Eight eyes. Zero nos. That passes. Um Tom. Go ahead. We'll have Christopher come up to the podium. Yeah, I found the uh Mr. Mayor, I found the uh American Planning Association
took place uh September 24th through 26th here in Wilmer. Quite interesting. And uh as the host here, I'd love to hear what all they did and a little more information about it. All right, Council Member Gilbertson, thank you for the
opportunity and for um really focusing on the American Planning Association state conference. So, every year the state of Minnesota American Planning Association chapter host a statewide conference
where all planners and um students as well are invited. Uh this year Wilmer did host and we hosted for about 300 planners from all across Minnesota. It was the first time that a lot of planners even came to the southwestern portion of the state and
the first time that the conference came um to this area. It was really impactful to one have um the conference here for a local economic opportunity too. So, a lot of planners went into uh our small businesses in downtown um to eat and to
karaoke. Um they tried to get me to karaoke. I did not do it. Um but it was very nice even hear them shopping um at Primrose and other opport um other stores here. Some even drove as far as Brooden to just um take a look at
um some of the natural landscape that's happening and some of the development. Um there's also a burger stand, a pop-up burger stand that was in Brutin and heard a lot of feedback about that. Um but it was really great to host um a lot of planners and my colleagues here in
the city and we hosted and co-f facilitated two sessions. One was shaping a community-led vision which really focused on comp comprehensive planning for smaller cities and then we did an interactive chet for downtown.
also how to revitalize downtown. Their attendees gained insight into our current conditions and they gave recommendations that they actually implemented in their areas. um though it was geared towards planning uh specific
a lot of attendees were engineers and consultants um as well and so couldn't have done this without the APA board which I sit on for the state chapter but I could not have done it without the conference center who ran logistics um
the convention the Wilmer Lakes area convention and ver visitors bureau um our city staff that assisted and administrator Valian and actually led the bike tour. So, one of the mobile tours that perfectly aligned with the ribbon cutting um celebration of our um
trail head by the civic center. So, I didn't do it alone. Um did it with the board and so many organizations and city staff here and I um want to thank you all for taking the time just to hear about it. Thank you. You have any more questions?
I don't think so. I know that they uh uh did a tour of the Midwest Technology campus and we had about 20 of them stop through uh that area and uh they were very all very impressed to see how we've revitalized that uh portion of our city versus just tear down those buildings.
So, it's neat to see them come through and we made good use of the Wilmer bikes. Yes. Nice. Yes, Audrey. If I can just comment too, I participated in the ribbon cutting out there and it was really fun to see all of them. They asked lots of good
questions. Um, I think they were very impressed with our trail head and and the bike paths and how we were working on additional ones and so it was really great to have them experience our community and and go on tour through um
the campus etc. So, and it was was nice opportunity while they were here. So, Others made comments to me in regards to our civic center, our event center, the
turf, artificial turf, and the trail head. So, I think we impressed some of them. Anyway, all right. Um, I need a motion to uh approve that.
So, moved. Okay, we have a second. Second. We got a second. Any further discussion? Roll call. Council member Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. Davis. Hi. Butterfield.
Hi. Shoulders. Hi. O. Hi. And Nelson. Hi. Eight eyes. Zero nos. That passes. I assume we don't have any. Okay. So, we'll go to
uh the approval of plans and specifications and authorize advertisement for bids on the Wilmer Connect. And I'll call on Kyle Box, our operations City Council. Tonight's agenda item for your
consideration is the plans and specifications with authorization to bid phase one of the fiber optic installation project known as Wilmer Connect. This action item is accumulation of three plus years of work. What began as an idea to bring fiber to the industrial park quickly
evolved into what it is today. Our work revealed that the efforts regarding broadband access across the country, state, counties, and other municipalities have been far more expansive than initially considered in the summer of 22. Throughout the project's life cycle, we
have questioned every aspect of validity because of our cautious approach. We have taken our time. We have done our due diligence. We have mitigated risk to the best of our ability. And we've gotten we've had the opportunity to partner with industry leaders most of
whom who have no financial interest in our project but strongly believe in these in these projects. This work has been done to identify weaknesses, design the network for scalability and reliability and build public private relationships that aim to deliver fast
and reliable ser service on city-owned infrastructure. Lastly, we gained an understanding of how our city is served, what barriers to entry exist, and what opportunities become available to residents, businesses, and the city itself. Wanted to take an opportunity with you,
council, uh, Mr. Mayor, to, uh, just go through the agenda item here real quick, uh, and provide you with a project recap. Uh, I would say starting really in May of this year, uh, to current today, uh, review the action item request and provide you with a project
timeline. As of uh late last night, um we started collecting I'll back up first. We started collecting uh pre-orders in May uh May 2nd of this year uh through through October 19th is the numbers that we'll be talking about today.
Uh so current 596 total pre-orders have been um registered on the Wilmer Connect site. Um, out of that breakout, phase 1 accounts for 235, 221 in phase 2, and 111 in phase three.
Even though that we are uh promoting only phase one as an action item tonight, we still thought it was important to open up this uh pre-signup portion uh for the entire period uh for the entire city. Now, if you add those numbers up, you'll know they do not equal 596. It equals 567. Uh the reason
for the 29 count difference is that we do collect some information that for residents that live out in businesses that are outside the city limits for information purposes only. We have no plans at this time uh to expand beyond the city limits. But it's it is helpful information for us to collect and
evaluate how the city moves uh and grows into the future. Going back to phase one, that 235 number, our year one goal for a full year with a phase one build was 212. It was a 7 212 signups. That was a 7% take
rate that you saw earlier this year on our performer. Now, out of that 235 pre-signups, we estimate to convert about 80% of those to actual orders. That's pretty an industry standard number that we continue uh that we see pretty consistently or been told pretty consistently.
So, we'll continue to push those pre-signups throughout the throughout this year. Uh, additionally, some project updates uh that we wanted to provide you with some were some events that both our ISP partners, our internet service providers uh and the city that attended uh and and
presented at uh throughout the summer, including mailers, attending Wilmerfest, County Fair, Doornocking, advertising, um again, Rockin Robbins, and the opportunity to present at the community center, attending the Minnesota Public Broadband Alliance uh meeting earlier
this year, and also attending welcoming week. As we move through the project, we have an opport have had the opportunity uh to partner with a an organization called community broadband action network or CBAN. Uh what we would like to do is
start a uh a champion program and partnering with comm with CBAN to roll out a champion program. This program is a timelimited community sprint that equips volunteers with messaging and support to drive up signups for Wilmer Connect. With that, we'll be looking for volunteers to join the champion program
deliverable deliver measurable leads and tell the community on why this project is important. And I wanted to provide you with some municipal updates from not only Minnesota but from across the country as well. And this information comes from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance.
Uh I know I I'd shared a map with you and shared some numbers on uh municipal networks throughout the country starting in the low 600s and then earlier this year we were at 707. Uh that number has now jumped again to 806 municipal networks across the country. What I find
very interesting is that between 2001 and 2008 an average of six new municipal networks came online per year. And in contrast over the last 10 years uh that average has jumped to 15 new networks a year even during the co 19 pandemic
municipal networks serving their neighbors are also increasing Utah's utopia fiber serves 22 different communities EPB fiber in Tennessee serves nine and in the state of Vermont a new public private part new public partnerships uh between 200 different
communities will see an explosion of publicly owned fiber infrastructure. But it's not all about size. Iowa, Massachusetts, and Tennessee boast the highest number of municipal networks in the nation in respect to their states. And what we're pursuing is open access.
Open access networks which supercharge competition. They benefit households and are also on the rise. And today almost 200 communities are served by an open access network. At its core, this is an infrastructure project that would be owned by the city
of Wilmer. Partnerships have been established with private internet service providers to operate on the network to provide a high quality service to its end users. Tonight's action item, if approved, will initiate a timeline for receiving, reviewing, and bringing back bids to the
city council for further consideration on December 15th. As you can see on your screen, we outline that outlay that timeline um again with a highlight or an underliner of the action item on December 15th. And if that coun if at that time council proceeds with
accepting and awarding those bids, uh bonding and construction uh for phase one would uh would commence in quarter 1 and quarter two of 2026 with substantial completion um targeted to be completed by quarter first part of quarter 4 and
26 with final completion of phase one punch list items being completed July 1st of 2027. In closing uh before uh closing tonight's action marks the transition for many years of planning to tangible progress for Wilmer Connect. By approving the plans and authorizing bids
for phase one, the city positions itself to deliver reliable city-owned broadband infrastructure that will serve residents, businesses, and the community for decades to come. This milestone reflects Wilmer's commitment to innovation, connectivity, and long-term community investment.
Mr. Mayor, I will uh stop there for any questions. Get a motion first. So moved. Have a motion. How about a second? Second. I uh
as as elected officials, we share a a collective responsibility in the success of our projects. And our decisions at this table are not individual actions, but a demonstration of our unity, our leadership, and
support for our city and its future. Healthy deliberation, challenging questions, and due diligence are welcome and remain a core factor in how we govern our city. Wilmer Connect
project is of the utmost importance. It's an innovative endeavor that if approved will demand our collective commitment and support and it's a project that we as the governing body of the city must see through to its
completion. If the city council is in favor of advancing Wilmer Connect project, it's important to remember that this isn't the end. There will be peaks and there will be valleys along the way. And as elected
B as the elected body for the city, I urge you to be ready to support and stand behind the decisions we make as a unified council for Wilmer Connect. So any discussion? Audrey,
thank you. Mayor Ree, um just a question about the bid process. When we're building streets, etc., uh we kind of have an estimate um of what we what we think the bid might be and sometimes it comes in below and above.
Do we have that same kind of process in place right now so that if the bids came in higher than we were expecting we could we could take a look at them at that time whether we should proceed or not. Absolutely. That's a great question
Nelson. believe that number is included in the in the packet uh in the action item request under budgetary items. I believe that number is coming in just under 7.8 million for phase one construction which includes um the trunk lines in the network operation center as
well to and from phase one. Okay. So that would be our the engineered estimate. Okay. So that's just the clarification that that's the amount if the bids come in, we would proceed with phase one. So
that's a total. Yes, that that's council has the um council would have the opportunity to accept or deny any bid that would come back to it. Come back to includes everything. Yes. Okay. Thank you,
Steve. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Uh, Mr. Box, I have a couple questions and one uh, Director Odin might have to answer. Uh, the first one, what do you think, what is the the the date last date to sign up for phase one or how do how will a
contractor know what the total number is for phase one or do we do a change order if people sign up late or is it a a unit price that's going to be in the bidder? How is that going to work? No, that's a good question, Council Member Gardner. uh we have not come up with a final stop date on when that when
that cuto off date would be. Our goal always would if the project proceeds would be to sign up and and connect as many people as fast as possible. Uh in the project estimate there is a certain number a c a percentage of okay we've got 235 signups today. Okay, we'll use a
number like that, estimate maybe 20 30% more uh whatever that final number would be and that would be built into that bid price based off what we've seen from industry standards on uh what that construction cycle brings for signups. Uh there would be a bid or a unit price
per connection as well. Uh that number escapes me off the top of my head, but I know uh Mr. Morhead from Hometown Fiber might be able to answer that a little quicker than I than I can. I assume it's going to be a bid price on a unit form or a bid a unit price on a bid form or something like that. Yep.
And that should be identified in um as an example in the resolution in your packet how the items are bid out. Yeah. Um do you know how much we have spent to date on this project? Yes. Starting in the first contract council
approved was November 7th of 2022. Uh through this through current is 1,100,432.74 uh that has come out of the industrial park fund. So approximately 1.1 million just over 1.1 million.
Uh and my my last question uh again maybe director Rose will have to answer this. um what does this do to our bonding capacity or what is our bonding capacity as a city? What does it do to our bonding capacity for for our ability to do road
improvements? And then what happens if this project fails? What happens to our bond then? Yep. So for our bond capacity, we would be we're anticipating or projecting to go for general obligation tax abatement bonds. There are different rules that go around. That's uh general obligation
bonds are how we bond for our streets. U but this would not impact our general obligation our street bond capacity. Tax abatement bonds would limit us on a certain amount of projects maybe like a um any abatements that we would do in
the future. Um tax abatements we would do in the future. Uh that's also a funding mechanism for a community center. The rules around general obligation tax abatement bonds are typically 10% of the uh taxable market value of
the city. So, right around 20 million is what we're estimating for taxable market value or tax capacity, excuse me, uh for the city of Wilmer on 2026. So, our our the most we would be able to levy for is $2 million in a single year. Um, if that
answers your question, it would not impact our street our obl our ability to levy for streets. uh if the project did not receive enough revenues to come uh to pay off those debt obligation costs, uh the backs stop is property taxes. Um
however, we are working on a on another funding mechanism that we would like to iron out a little bit closer and provide more information on. Um but uh that would not impact the property taxes. Um still ironing those details out, but the the final backs stop would be property
taxes if all else fails. And what do we anticipate when I I think I understand that we're going to not pay anything on these bonds for the first set amount of time. Correct. Correct. The goal would be to um push off principal payments only for uh three
years to build up revenues and subscribers. What does debt service look like after that for those that aren't familiar? Just under $700,000 a year. Thank you. I believe I will but I I will verify that I believe. Yeah.
Any further discussion? Audrey? Um yes. I feel like I should know this, but I'm going to ask anyway. On the phase one, there is a blue outline and then there's a line that goes over to the network operation center. There's some blue lines that go a little bit
further. Is that parcel still being considered to be included or is that just lines to get to the to the knock? I if if I were look if thinking of the same document, council member Nelson, those would be the the trunk lines or
the ways that we would be able to deliver that internet from the knock to phase one. And I believe there's four different lines on that map. Yes. To create redundancy. Okay. But it's not saying that we could include that area. No, that's a great question. I think
it's something that the council should strongly consider is that if there are clusters of or areas of town now, um um if there's an opportunity for us to move and go to that location, um I think that's something that we should strongly consider. Again, it's connecting as many
people as fast as possible. Now, we put together a map, a boundary because we needed to be able to identify phases of the project since this wasn't going to be bid all at once. Now we retain the flexibility to move that boundary at any any given time. Um so I
think I think we should be flexible but stayed close to that phase one boundary as as close as possible because there will be um cost to go out and do that work. But there might be some tradeoff. If a portion of phase one does not get built
or there's no signups or no interest at this time, we may be able to take those resources and move to another part of the community in close proximity to where we're already at and make that connection. Okay. Thank you. Anybody else? Rick.
Thanks, Mr. Mayor. So, we've got 9,000 parcels in the city right now. Entire city. Just Yeah. A little under 10,000. Yeah, we got 596 that said they might want to sign up. Correct.
It cost 7 million for phase one. Mhm. 7 or 8 million for two, probably more for phase three. Looks like it's a bigger area. Yeah, I believe the council member Feely I believe the uh estimates for phase one
construction are the highest because it's the construction of the network operation center as well as make as well as putting in those main trunk lines. Phase two and phase three right now are estimated to be 6.8 just under 7 million. And if a provider came into
town and wanted to put it in themselves, it would be a cost to them to put the physical infrastructure in. Yeah, correct. They wouldn't be charging us. Correct. Of the 596 U people that'll sign up
maybe what are we going to get off that? Oh, that's a great question. So, we're that's what we will have ironed out before you would be asked to consider any bids. If if this action item was to even go through right now, we are still in negotiations with those ISPs with an
understanding that um everyone is under the same understanding that in order for this project to work, the city needs to bring in X amount of revenue to make sure that property taxes would not be impacted. And that's a goal that the city shares and the ISP share is to make sure that this project is viable and
successful. Uh I would imagine my anticipation to have those service level agreements done or SLAs's is to have those wrapped up and finalized and ready for action on December 15th as well with the same goal in mind that uh we would be make bringing in the city would have enough
revenue to come in to cover its costs. Okay. So do you think the other providers in town now are going to stand still? No, I do not. Okay. My example is I was with Spectrum
at my house. I was paying $275 a month for internet and TV. I cut it off three months ago. Now they're saying I can get it for $30 a month for internet, 40 for TV, three-year
guarantee. My office I have Windstream and they reduced my fees. So They're not going to stand still and let us, the city, take over.
I noticed you never said there was a community in Minnesota that has this. Okay. Is there open access? Yeah. No, there is not. Okay. No, there are uh Buffalo fiber, Monaceel
fiber, RS fiber. Uh those are all different co-op different versions of municipal own fiber networks. Um, I had an opportunity to speak with RS Fiber, uh, their board, a board member, uh, the city of Fairfax, um, had conversations
with them and they, um, it's a complicated issue nonetheless. A lot of the original people aren't necessarily there anymore. But what one of the key key things that I learned or took away from the conversation was I I what I asked from them was, would you do the
project again? And do you is your community does your board see it as a value to to the people that it serves? And every single time it was absolutely yes. Now their revenue model is a little bit different than ours. They are paying those they are having to pay pay that
debt obligation tax but the infrastructure is invaluable. Now if they choose to sell at some point somebody's going to find that um find that infrastructure very valuable. Um but I also asked the question um to the board member if and I don't know if she
speaks for the entire board but at least from her perspective is that uh there's there is not going to be or there isn't a any talk or action item for the cooperative to go away. This wants to be continued to be owned by this
cooperative of 10 cities and dozens of townships and without those throughout the counties. Uh Buffalo Fiber, for example, they are an ISP. It's municipal owned fiber. The the city is an ISP itself. Uh they are moving full steam ahead with phase two. Um
their project has been successful in the eyes of being able to expand, connecting with residents and getting businesses signed up. Uh similar to the city of Monaceel, which was talked about several times throughout this project. Um earlier this year I believe they laid
another 1,200 miles of fiber uh to get other expansion and more connections made. Now they did sell to uh Arvig uh as that runs their network but the city still owns the infrastructure. They own the network or they own the infrastructure and ARVIC runs on that
network. So there's different what I'm getting at council member Fragley and C city council is there are many different models and different ways that you can look and evaluate and how you want to proceed with a project like this. uh just on the numbers I was sharing earlier today that 806 number I shared
only 200 of those 86 are open access models. This is the model that we feel works best for the city of Wilmer. It's city-owned infrastructure. We're providing a a marketplace or an avenue for private business to operate on that infrastructure and provide service to
its customers. At the same time, it's a potential to has the potential to generate revenue to come back to the city. It's a one-time infrastructure investment in our eyes. I mean, one-time in the sense of you won't have to be digging up fiber or conduit the next 30 or 40 years. Now, there will be end
equipment that'll have to get updated over time and as technology evolves. Yes. Um, but this is the model that we've put through. Hometown Fiber has evaluated uh many different scenarios, many different models, and this is what we ultimately ended up on.
So, when was the last time you talked with Monosel? It would be at the um I was on the letter that was submitted by the former city administrator that was presented at a work session I believe in March and then I was on a call with them for
the earlier this summer. Earlier this spring was the last time I was able to got an update on that specific project because I talked with the ARP employee at a job site. Okay. A few weeks ago. He said they're buying everything from Monzel.
Okay, that's news to me. So, I don't know what's true. Okay, I'll absolutely look into that. That's They were getting out of it as soon as the bond is paid. Okay. Now, you brought up uh $700,000. That's a yearly payment just for the
bond payment. Yes. Yeah. I Yes. approximately 680,000 or something like that. And then estimate wise, would you pay another $2,000
to a hometown to run it? 196, I believe. So, we're looking about a million dollars. So, and our cut would be about $15. I'm just ballparking it for sure. So basically,
we're going to need 4,000 clients just to make our payments before the city would make any money. Yeah. So our the way we've structured the perform and this is like I I mentioned council member Butterfield is still working with the ISPs but in order for us to be comfortable profitable
profitable is probably the wrong word but comfortable and making sure that we are making our our obligation payments without increasing the taxes is probably closer to that 60/40 split of revenue of what those end what your final bill would be. So 60% would be coming back to the city. Now we won't use a percentage
in our our final document. we'll put a flat dollar amount in, but that's the number that right now I feel comfortable with of going forward with to make sure that we have enough revenue coming in uh to making sure those obligation costs are paid off. Now, I also want to also want to point out in our on our
financial model that we don't anticipate having our goal is to have a 40% take rate throughout the entire city. So, we have 10,000 parcels in town. 4,000 is our goal. And when we get to that 4,000 level or even shy of that 4,000 level,
we start to generate enough revenue uh to making sure that um to make sure that that's not a scenario that we want to put ourselves in. Uh if phase one is built all by itself and phase two doesn't happen, phase three doesn't happen, that timeline stretches out even
further uh and property taxes would be used uh to make those obligation payments. So I want to make that explicitly clear um that phase two is really uh really needed because uh that's where another large portion of
the city is um residential cluster a lot more residential units in in phase two as well. Not saying phase one can't be profitable. It'll just take a lot longer to get there. But then when we go in phase two we're we'll be add another $700,000 for
principal and interest too. Correct. Correct. So like I had mentioned I'm sorry we'll need about 3500 in phase one another 3500 phase two. Yeah. So as I had mentioned earlier we won't be making principal payments for
the first three years on each of those bond issuances. So, what that allows us to do is build up a bank and and add so build up a a reserve of money and continue to have revenue or end users sign up on the program um to add to that
to make sure that we're at that sustainable level. And then my other portion of this probably go towards Leslie. You know, we talked about houses business getting hooked up and property value is going to go up over
over this I have a friend in Spicer has fiber through TDS. The county city hasn't up their property tax for him having fiber. Is the city going to be pushing the county to do that here in Walmart or
we're going to be running know like not an upgrade to your house? But I at this time I really couldn't answer that for you, but we will check into earlier this spring. Last time you said
you were looking at upping property taxes because it was an amenity go going to the property going Spicer isn't doing it. County hasn't done it over there is when we're going to be pushing for it. Now you have to realize Spicer with TDS
has been there for a long time. So, I don't know what their property taxes were at the time it went in because it would not show year after year like that on a line. Well, then we should find out, you know, if our property taxes are going to go up because
some people may not do it. It's not it's a value thing. So, it's not a line item on the property taxes, but if the city's going to be pushing the county to raise everybody's property tax that has this,
the property taxes still are have to be the assessor still has a line that they have to meet within the state for property values. So, it's not us pushing this assessor to
increase property values. they still have to match what is in the state guidelines for assessing properties and if that is one of their guidelines that's what they would do. I can't
answer that directly. The city won't be going county pushing it to increase it. No. Any other discussion questions? Roll call.
Council member Gardner, no. Lee, no. Davis, hi. Butterfield, no. Shoulders, hi. Osc. Hi. Nelson.
Hi. Hilbertson. I. Five eyes, three nos. That motion passes. Thank you, Kyle. Thank you, mayor. Thank you, councel. Next, I'll call on our city clerk for
unpaid utility charges as a lean. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council members. Um Minnesota or Wilbur city code allows section 16127 allows for unpaid utility bills to be presented to the um as a
lean on real estate on the real property and the W municipal uh utilities commission offered owners the right to request an appearance before the commission to make objections to their payments. After holding a meeting, the municipal utilities adopted resolution 43 on
October 13, 2025 and are now asking my office, city clerk's office to certify those unpaid utilities to as a lean on their real property. Tonight, I'm asking the council to adopt a resolution in the amount of to pass up
16 properties in the amount of 1400 14,816.17 to be certified over to the county auditor for collection along with their other taxes for 2026. So move. We've got a motion
to adopt a resolution approving unpaid utility charges be certified against the real property. Questions, discussion? Rick. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. The city staff are the ones that did the mowing, trimming,
whatever. At these This isn't mowing. This is unpaid utility bills for utility. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. one car right question, Mr. Mayor. Yes, Steve. Do you know have utilities been cut off
from these properties or are they still receiving services even though they're unpaid? I think we have a cold weather rule that applies. I mean, the cold weather rule just went into has this just started, right? This in theory has all happened. We're deploying a lean on a property. It seems
like we should be well in front of the cold weather rule. I can't tell you how long this these bills have been unpaid. It's fine. They I guess we don't get that information from them. Yeah, I believe it's it's a mixture. Okay. All right. Thanks. It's a mixture of both is what was
stated at the utility meeting. Any other questions? Roll call. Council member Fagger. Hi. Davis. Hi. Butterfield. Hi. Shel. Hi. O. Hi Nelson.
Hi Gilbertson. Hi. And Gardner. Hi. Eight eyes. Zero nos. The motion passes. Next is consideration of Jimmy P's LLC on sale intoxicating and Sunday liquor
licenses. City clerk Larson. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council members, on September 24th, Jimmy P's LLC, owned by Steve Pepin, requested an on sale intoxicating liquor and Sunday liquor license to be located at 1600 11th
Avenue Northeast under the name of Jimmy Pe's LLC doing business as Jimmy Peas. He's had a background check with the police department, passed that, has a certificate of occupancy, and meets all the city requirements for the liquor license. and I'm requesting a a motion
to approve his license to be sent to the state. So moved. Second. Second. We got a motion and a second. Discussion. Roll call. Mr. Mayor. Oh, I'm sorry. I I have a question for Mr. Pepin if if
I can ask him. Uh is is this uh your Jimmy Peas? Is this going to be open to the public? Uh is it a private club? What? It's going to be open to the public. It is. Okay. And is there a restaurant with this or is it just a club or restaurant? It is. Okay. Food is required with an intoxicating
liquor license. That's what I thought. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Roll call. Council member Davis. Hi. Butterfield. Hi. Schultz. Hi. O. Hi. Nelson. Hi.
Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. And Faggerly. Hi. Eight eyes. Zero nos. Motion passes. Next is a request for a special city council meeting. Call on
city administrator Leslie. Good evening, council. Uh we are asking for this special council meeting next week. We believe that we will have our insurance contracts for health insurance uh this week. And so we would like to
have um council approve those contracts. so that we could now have that information out to employees as early as possible for our uh upcoming event of registration and such and open enrollment. So, we would propose either
Wednesday, October 29th or Thursday the 30th. And this would just be conducted at the city hall. We don't expect this to be a very lengthy meeting. It would only have the insurance contract on the agenda at 5:30 or 6 o'clock in the evening.
I can't do the 30th at night. Is there any option to do it in the morning or at noon? I'm open to council discussion. Is it Tuesday or Wednesday? It's a Wednesday or Thursday. Wednesday doesn't work unless it's in
the Wednesday doesn't work for me unless it's a morning or afternoon. Okay, let's go. Thursday at least 6:30. I can't do Thursday night. I'm leaving it all up to you.
I'm not available the other day. I'm in Oklahoma next week. You're out the entire week in Oklahoma. I'm not. I am here Tuesday. Tuesday is too early. I'm not here on Tuesday. I'll be out of
town until Wednesday afternoon. And Tuesday doesn't work for you. Thursday morning. That doesn't work for Steve or Tom or Vicki. I'm guessing days. Anything?
I've got six Saturdays a week. So, it sounds like Thursday and we have to choose between losing Audrey or Tom because you can't do it in the evening and you can only do it in the evening. What time do you start in the morning?
We got pushed back an hour to 7:30 now. Really? I'm in the office at seven. We used to start at 6 7 a.m. I'm all for it. 7 a.m. Thursday morning. Am I going to be out of there in 15
minutes? Sure. You just make the motion when you come in. You're all good. I know 7 Thursday morning. Okay. I'm up by then on the whole week. I I I get on an airplane at about 6:30
on Wednesday night and I get back in the war about noon on Friday. You could go Friday if you want. Friday's Halloween. We could go Friday. I can't do Friday. I'll be next Friday. Yes, I'll be back. I'm back Wednesday.
I'm back next Wednesday. I can't do Friday. Friday. Say Friday is Halloween. All you guys are young kids. You got to do go to a city council meeting on 7 a.m. My kids aren't trick-or-treating at 7 a.m.
I can't do 7 am on Friday. Either way, I'll be at the airplane. It's 7 a.m. Thursday. Does 7 a.m. Thursday work for everybody? Works for me
except for Steve. We're not going to catch the matter. If you're doing it Wednesday or Thursday or not, does the next week does it have to be that week? Can I sneak into We would like it that week because we are trying to get open enrollment the
following week. So, we would like it as soon as possible. And we have a city council meeting on the third, don't we? That following Monday. Yes. But we have to get open enrollment already. And that means Thursday 7 a.m.
Does that work for you in the morning? Yeah. Okay. Not ideal, but a lot of calls. Steve, is it less than ideal? Is it possible for him to zoom in or on teams? Would that be Yeah, I left Starlink
where I'm at, so You can do that. I'd rather not do that. But right, but I can. It's up to you. So 7 a.m. Thursdays.
You need a motion to that effect. I'll make a motion that we meet on Thursday uh the 30th at 7 a.m. at city hall. Second. Will we will you be sending us information for that meeting?
We will send you the agenda. I don't know what information we'll have prior to that, but we will certainly have something for you. So, you were re you were recently reaching out to look for for bids on this, correct? Correct.
So, is there going to be choices presented to us at this meeting or will it We're not sure what we're going to get this yet. We haven't gotten everything. We haven't gotten information in yet. So, if we have choices, it will be we know one choice is the
current plan we have, which is peeps at a little over 20% increase or the alternative. That would be the choices right now. Okay. Well, we're not going to like we're going to need a decision at that meeting. Sounds like it's nothing like we
Yes, you would make that decision. You would make the contract decision that night. Okay. You're just making the contract decision. What the contract entails? Okay. That'll take 15 minutes.
Should I I mean it's Yes or no? Yeah. I you know, we're gonna we'll have a recommendation, but you know, it's The bins come out when? They're going to be coming in this week. This week?
Yes. We have a roll call. Council member Davis. Hi. Butterfield. Hi. Shel. Hi. Osk. Hi. Nelson. Hi. Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Faggerly.
Hi. Eight eyes. Zero nos. Thank you. Motion passes. We have any announcements? If not, we're going to uh go into close session. Close meeting pursuant to Minnesota statute
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