I did. We'll call the meeting to order. Roll call. Mayor Reese here. Council member Osk here. Nelson here. Gilbertson here. Gardner here. Bagger Lee here.
Davis here. And Shel here. Council member Butterfield is excused. So eight present, one absent. Please stand for the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One
nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Hey Rob, will you get that door? It's pretty loud out there. Proposed additions or deletions to the agenda. Otherwise, a motion to approve.
Motion to approve. Second. We had a motion to approve and a second. Discussion. Roll call. Council member Osk. I. Nelson. I. Gilbertson. Hi.
Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. Davis. I ensh seven pres eyes, zero nos. That passes. We'll go to the consent items. I'll call on Verne Larson, city clerk. Mr. Mayor and council members
today for your approval. I have the city council minutes of May 5th 25. The council work session minutes of May 1st of 25. The council work session minutes of May 12th to 25. The draft minutes from the planning commission meeting of
May 7th 25. Approve the hiring agreement of the police chief. The local road improvement program funding agreement. Advertisement for bids for the airport runway 3 13/31 lighting system replacement. Consideration of a state temporary
liquor permit for Wilmer Lakes Rotary Club. A second consideration of the state temporary liquor permits for the Wilmer Lakes Rotary Club. Consideration of a state 1-day to 4-day temporary onsale liquor license permit for Intuition Brewing LLC. West Central
Ducks Unlimited lawful gambling application. and the accounts payable report from 5125 to 51425. And for your information, I have the director's reports and the financial reports through 43025.
Motion to approve the consent agenda. Second. We got a motion and a second to approve. Can we pull out the finance report? I'd like to talk about a line item in there if we could which the finance report through 4:30
2025. Sure. We can pull that and payable. We'll go back to it. Yep. Okay. Anything else? All
right. Other than what has been pulled from the consent agenda. Roll call. Council member Nelson. I. Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. I Davis I
should I and Osc I seven I's zero nos that motion passes call on uh Steve to the Yeah. Thanks Mr. Mayor. Uh just looking at the the budget report and you
know we're a third of the way through the year because this goes through April and looking at our most of the line items are kind of on pace to make it but there's one that really stands out to me. a relatively large line and that's the engineering under total
streets and highways as it almost 98 and a half% and I just was curious you know where we think that's going to end up because we've blown through our budget in the first four months and that's a pretty big line item where do we think we're going to end up and where are we going to get the money
from to offset that thank you Mr. Gardner Mr. Mayor, members of the council, uh the best answer I have on that is we had our street improvement program for 25 and 26. Um uh all the projects were identified in
the feasibility and per since then we have reduced dramatically our street projects for the next couple years. U however we do have some engineering invoices from our city engineer Boulden Mink u that we had to pay for. So there
are a bunch of projects that have since been shelved uh but we have paid those invoices to Bolton Mink and then we have uh ceased work and engineering work on those projects. Um the other large portion would be our 2025 and 2026
feasibility report and then we have our monthly um engineering services from Bolden Inc. So we are taking care of some older invoices. Yeah, I mean Tom or Director Odin's
mentioned prior to the meeting that you know you're looking at an average of5 to $7,000 a month of just normal engineering service from Bolton Bank. So 7* 8 is $56,000. Are we going to be able to carve $56,000 out somewhere else so we
can still make budget in this case? the uh I do not foresee us um we'll we'll have to pay for our engineering services monthly. Uh the the biggest ticket item um would would be our feasibility report and I do believe that next year is going to be significantly less. Um we can look
at you know um see how the budgets come in as we go through the year uh for other other areas as well but um this does look like it will be over the the budget for the year. Mayor Mayor
Yes, Tom. If we're paying for last year's invoices this year, were we under budget for last year then as well? Um, uh, Mr. Go, I I'm I'm unsure of that. I can get you more information and get back to you um with more detail if
you recall. I believe that we were over budget last year as well. So, that could be I would have to I would have to get you um more details. I'm good. You're good. I'm okay with his answer. I still like to know we're going to get
$56,000. I can't answer that. We'll keep an eye on it. All right. Do you have a motion to a motion to approve the finance report through 4:30 2025? Second. We got a motion and a second.
Discussion. Roll call. Council member Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. Davis. Hi. Shoulders. Hi. O. I. And Nelson. I.
Seven eyes. Zero nos. That passes. There's no one on open forum. So, we'll go to uh our no public hearing. We'll go to regular business and introduce a call for a public hearing on the 2025 bond
ordinance and call in Michaela from Baker Tilly. Hi Michaela. Good evening Mayor, members of the council. um here tonight representing this item um to um uh have the council call for public hearing on
your 2025 bond um ordinance. Um that is part of your your annual process to issue bonds um calling for the hearing tonight and would um allow the the public hearing to be held on June 16th. Um and the sale would be July 21st, I
believe. um would be the sale. The um project before you tonight are the 2025 um um capital projects pursuant to the um city's capital plan. Um there is a resolution in your packet with a not to exceed amount of 7 million that is total
projects. Um the actual um a portion of those projects are financed by both um levy and assessments. Um, in order to issue the bonds, more than 20% of the project costs are assessed based on the current estimates um, for the bond
structure. We're looking at total annual assessments of about 170,000. That does include this uh, portion of the city properties that will be um, also assessed. So, with that, I'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have. It's just a quick overview.
Any questions from the council? If not, um, are we ready for a motion? You're okay. We need a motion to approve the resolution calling for a public hearing on an ordinance authorizing the issuance of general
obligation bonds 2025A on Monday, June 16th, 2025 at 6:30 p.m. So moved. Second. We got a motion and a second. Any discussion?
Hearing none. Bro call. Council member Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. Davis. Hi. Shoulders. Hi. O. Hi. Nelson. I. And Gilbertson. I. Seven eyes. Zero nos.
Thank you. Michaela. Long drive for a short presentation. Okay. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Next. Uh, calling Rob Bombgard on the radio control car park at Pleasant View Park. Good evening, Mayor, member of the
council. Um, tonight we're going to ask uh for you guys to instruct staff to develop a lease agreement uh with the radio control park to construct a radio control park at Pleasant View Park. Um, we were approached by the club members and we got two of them here. Um, they can talk a little bit more about the
park. Um, this is a radio control, so it's the cars, the trucks, and everything that that they can play with. Um, but they want a course and we've been looking at some areas and we looked at the Pleasant View area kind of by the wastewater treatment plant um to be that site and we felt like that's a good site
to have this type of a park. Um, we looked it over with uh public works staff, the wastewater treatment plant. We've had conversations with Bolton and Mink. We didn't feel any immediate concerns about this area to to put this park at. We know what's underneath it.
We know that um talking with the group that they will not be digging into the ground. They may just be leveling it off a little bit, but everything is going to be built up on top. Um and so we looked at this as a great opportunity to bring in a different type of recreation is how
we looked at it. Um this was brought up to the park and recck board. they didn't see any problems with it as well. Um, but tonight it's going to be more of what your guys' appetite is to continue this process because they're in the process of getting their uh nonprofit status and everything. So, if there's
not the appetite from the council to do this, they're go pull back on what they're going to do. Um, so we want to know what your guys' feelings about about developing this park at Pleasant View. So, I'll bring the guys up. they can talk a little bit more about what the plan is um about how they have it
phased out and everything like that. So, do we just minimize this to get the screens up? So, this is going to be just a quick overview of the area that we're talking about. Um you can see the path from
where um it goes from the archery park up and then it's the squared in section on the northwest corner of Pleasant View it since you brought it up with the archery park. What will happen with the archery
park? It'll still stay there. We feel like there's plenty of distance from the last target to where they would be developing their park at. Okay. So, mayor, can I just Yes. Before you go from from that slide, we're only talking about land on that side. Correct. The
drawing has two pieces that we got on one side and the other side, but we're only talking about land on the this corner for right now. Yep. What do you mean for right now? Well, if if the park would ever need to expand, if if it gets so big, we just looked at this is the
main areas of section of land that we are trying to develop this park. Anybody else? Otherwise, I'll go to Jake and I don't know the other gentleman's name. Cy,
give your names and addresses. Corey Pavvelo. I'm from Wilmer. I know a few of you around here. Where where do you live, Corey? In Wilmer. No. Your address? Oh, 14049th Street South. Okay. Jake Cole. I'm from Wilmer here as well.
1905 21st Street Southwest. Okay. Our co-owner of the hobby shop in Wilmer for RC Cars, CNC Hobbies. We're just south of McDonald's. We have a customer base of
approximately 1,000 to,200 people depending on how you want to look at it really. We reach out. We have customers that come in from 2 hours into the Dakotas, you know, up by Fargo, come down. People from the cities come out here even
though they have four goodsized hobby shops down there because we specialize on one thing and one thing only. So, we carry a lot of parts and uh we we've done a pretty good job, I think, of supporting that community. That
community realizes that and comes back. So, we take care of them. Um, this has been a dream kind of of mine for 10 years to do something like this. Um, basically kind of to give back to
the community in a way, too. um looking for something to, you know, because our hobby isn't just adults. It isn't just kids. We got kids as young as five up to grandpas as old as 85 that
come and drive these cars. We just brought a couple examples today of cars that would race on the race part of it. This facility will actually include multiple stages. Um there's a and that if you follow the
roadway up, there's a parking area there to start with that'll hold approximately 20 to 25 cars. And we'll have room for overflow parking and events just along the drive driveway itself. And if we need to do more, we'll do whatever we got to do, of
course. Um, and then stepping to the left, we got one of the main two main race tracks. So, you got that oval track. That's a banked clay track. Um, oval racing has become really
a huge thing. In the middle of that track, and that's going to be cars like this, this modified here. Um, and then in the middle there's a white box. So that's like a to give you a scale kind of of
how big it is. That's a 40 foot shipping container. That'll be our driver's stand up on top. Something solid, something strong. You don't have to worry about anybody getting hurt. We'll put a railing around it. Build some nice steps and a ramp. And then we plan to build a lower
like a one foot off the ground with a ramp for wheelchair accessibility along the one side or maybe both. And then we want to do some painting on that uh shipping container. Paint a nice
mural on the side of it. That'll look cool. You'll be able to see it when you're driving, that angled road behind the mall, you know. So, we want to look nice, of course. Um the area above that, that kind of long skinny area, that'll be for what we call crawlers. They're a
sophisticated uh type of truck that drives. You get a You explain them. You're good at crawlers. You can do a lot of them. Yeah. It's more like a rock crawler thing. So, we make basically mini mountains and things like that. There it's actually like a look at Jeeps and Broncos, you know, for Broncos and
Jeeps and crawl up that. And basically what you do in competition uh is you actually set up cones in between and they got to crawl through the the cones without hitting the cones. And just like fulls size trucks when they're doing competitions out in the Black Hills and stuff like that, that's what we'd be doing with these small scale. It's a
tenth scale 10 scale of a real truck. Um but yeah, they're just electric. Um and they just run out of battery and it just crawls up them. It's like a a little mountain like going up the rocks and try to get there the fastest time and without hitting the cones and get deduction on points if you hit the rocks
or the cones. You know, that's one area that we'll definitely see some regional events come to town. This is going to be really good for the city, too, because we'll when we start when we can open and start having events, you know, we may host a crawling
competition on a Friday and Saturday and that might bring in 150 people to town. So, they come, they got a hotel night, they got restaurants to go eat at, you know, all that kind of stuff. Um, and then of course we'll, you know, there's
entry fees for all the vehicles. Um, we got a whole schedule of how that'll work, how it'll all get paid back out, all that fun stuff. Um, so do you have do you have only battery or is there Yes, right now it's going to be
strictly electric. No fuel. No fuel noise. No. Okay. Um, in the middle of that oval track, there's a long little piece in the middle there, and that'll be for sled pulling. Um, usually, yeah, just like
pickups pulling at the fair, you know, it's it's kind of cool. Um, and then on the left side of that, west side of it, we got what we call our rally course or short course. There's all these little hoops and jumps and bumps in it. That'll be for some different types of cars.
This would be one class. We call them buggies, four-wheel drive buggies. Um, there's like rally cars, too. Rally cars, slashes. So, that'll have multiple classes that can race on that track. So, that'll probably be one of the more popular ones or more
used. Um, down in the bottom of that area, there's a pad there, and that's going to be for the drift cars. Um, so you see these cars that, you know, are like that. We got RC cars that do the same thing. All these cars represent a
real one to one car and these are temp scale. So, um we should have brought one of your X-Maxxes. Yeah. Um so then that top tar road up there that is actually for our
weekend drag racers. Last three years we've been racing RC cars uh every other Sunday all summer. Um, usually we have anywhere from a dozen to 25 cars maybe at the most that
have showed up. But if we had a dedicated location like that, we would be able to do a lot more. And ideally, we'd draw, like I said a little bit ago, regional people to come for competitions. And also, we might even
get some national looks if things go well down the road. Um cuz there's just there's nobody out there that does what we're going to do. They might there might be there's maybe what two three tracks in Minnesota that people race at. There's other tracks. There's carpet tracks and indoor tracks and then
there's outdoor uh clay oval tracks and there's outdoor short course tracks and things like that. But here there taken care of, they're not maintained. They cost quite a bit of money for people to go use. A lot of times BMX tracks. Oh yeah. Yeah. BMX tracks. and they don't
like them there and yeah, get this war. We want to be able to have a facility, a place where people can go enjoy the hobby, get more people into the hobby. Um, but yeah, that'd be the drag race stretch and you should come see them
race sometime. They're fast. They uh they'll run the fastest one. I got one that'll do, if I can get the tires to hook right, the right surface, it should do 90 mph in 132 ft in about 2
seconds. It's that quick. So, yeah, they're pretty fun. On average, those run, we have a stock class and they run about 60 mph. Um, and then the area down below with
the big column looking ends on it, those have changed a little differently. We've revamped it recently. Uh, we're going to do retaining wall block on the outsides of those stability. It's for stability to keep those BMS cuz they're going to be
like 8t high. And then we're going to have the block go above the top of the burm so people don't try and launch off of those. This is this is kind of what we call our big air park where these big trucks come in. You know, they're probably the size of this tabletop here
and they'll launch, you know, big time into the air and do flips and tricks and all that stuff. Uh Jake is really good at that and then a couple other jumps in there. So, um but yeah, that retaining wall will kind of keep people because
they'd have to drive through it and that would pretty much wreck their truck. So, I don't think they'll do that. But that's kind of it in a nutshell. The way we want to use it. Um, this is kind of by membership in our
association. Um, like the gun club out there. You pay your membership for the year, you get a key card, you can access it whenever you want. And that'll be the same thing here. So, if you're a member, you can come use anytime you want. Now, let's say there's a crawling event going
on. you just wouldn't be able to use the crawling area that day, but you could go out and use any of the other stuff. [Music] Um, and then of course, like if you're just coming to town, you're not a
member, you pay whatever your fees are. Now, let's say the fee is $20 for car entry on the crawlers and you come and you got two trucks to you want to enter. You pay 20 for one and 10 for the second. Okay, if you're a member
already, which a lot of the people that would come would be, you get $5 off those prices, too. So, there's incentive to be an actual member of the group. And then at least one Saturday, maybe two a month. Um, or maybe we move the dates
around. We haven't decided on any specific days yet, but minimum one time a month, if not twice. We want to offer community days for the kids in the area or adults too if they want to come. The members will bring their own cars in and
we'll teach people how to do it. Kind of give them the basic rundown and they can drive stuff. So So that's kind of the nutshell plan. You got anything you want to add? No, I mean yeah, that's that pretty much sums it up. I mean there'd be different events in that that we try to hold too.
Um, a lot of the communities that do a lot of some of these things do like a swap meet day and stuff like that where we do like a a buy, sell, trade kind of thing where they can come, you know, um, that'd probably be in the parking lot or something like that where you line up cars and you can sell them, swap them,
trade them, do things like that. It's like anything else that we do with with that, you know, but brings people into the community and, you know, keeps the hobby going. I hope you guys are successful in putting on events and bringing people to town. Yeah, definitely. Any questions from the
council? Audrey, I have I have lots of questions and I and um I live there. Um but I have some concerns. First of all, I'd love to see you find a place to be able to do this. I'm really concerned about this location
for a variety of reasons. Um, I can't I don't know what the burm is that we need to protect that you can't go through. Um, I can't envision how we can um you you can hold big events out there. There's no parking lot. It's just grass.
It's muddy. You're going to have to close off the entrance that comes from 9inth Street. That little It's not safe to have cars driving by the playground and the equipment that's out there. So, you're not going to that little street is not going to be able to be used. I'm
just curious with why you picked this spot and why we aren't helping you to find someplace else to be successful where you have parking lots and can put up tents and you're going to need electricity and you're going to need, you know, how is this all going to work?
And I don't understand how we can lease it to you um and with the responsibility that you will hold for protecting that ground. Well, it's part These are all good questions. Thank you. Um, that's part of the lease. We have to maintain
it and take care of it. It's our responsibility. Um, as far as what's underneath, we're very aware of what's underneath. That almost nicks the idea for us, too. But we found out it's a lot deeper than what we thought. What is it? What's the depth? Two to three feet
depending on the area. But we're everything we're planning to build is going up. So you won't bring any tents when you're holding events, you know, big tents. Yeah, but that those stakes go on the ground like this. They don't we're not going to drive a 10ft stake in
for And how will you get electricity there? There's actually a small building that's close to that. Solar. Yep. Otherwise, it'd be generators and things. Yeah. Otherwise, it would have
to be a generator, but we should there. It didn't sound like there'd be an issue getting the power from that little building trenched over there. So, as far as juice, as far as parking, you know, like I said, our general use on a
weekly, daily basis, this little parking lot will hold it enough. And when people come in, they can park, you know, kind of like half off the road. So, you only got one row of tires in the grass, but you know, people
park all over for events the way it seems in this town anyway. I guess I don't. So, tell me about the noise. Not much. They're electric, so you'll just hear kind of a kind of a Can you make the noise?
You have to be pretty close. Kind of like a drill. Yeah. Kind of like a drill. Yeah. Kind of like that. Just I know they go up and down our street. I know how much noise they make. So it depends like on your street you're probably making more tire more noise because you you got tire spills. This is on on clay and dirt, you know, so you're
not making the sc the screeching squealing noise, but you know, you'd probably hear that maybe just you a little bit louder. Vicki, so I'm wondering what time of day and what days of the week would you be
holding events? A lot of that' be held on the weekend. the if we're doing a bigger event that would definitely be a weekend thing. Um we will have regular like a league night if you will on Tuesdays and
Thursdays. So like Tuesday we may race the Clay Oval circuit. Thursday we may race uh this short course type track but we want to keep people engaged so they'll earn points you know every week
coming to race and based on how they place and everything. Will there be like a closing time like 9:00 or I would say we're probably going to be out of there by 10:00 for sure at the latest like nobody left. We probably start shutting
down4 to 9:00. Yeah. Are you going to need lighting? I think we can get by without it. One of our four members that are in going to be in the nonprofit. I'm actually getting out of the store part of it so that I can focus strictly on this.
Um, so it's me, Jake, and two other gentlemen. Um, and the one works at Cat Ziggler down there south of town. So he can get one of those machines that has the crank up bright light stuff. At some point
down the road, you know, it might be a possibility we could look at putting something in, but as for right now, we're not planning on bringing anything in that way. Carl, you had a question. I think they've been answered. Thank you. Okay. We're we're
looking at spending a$180 to $200,000 to build this, just so you're aware, Rick. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. So, do you have a season from like April to October? April. It depends on the weather. Yeah.
You know, if it's a nice fall, we might go into November easy. Usually, we're done sometime in October, early October typically. And we would be getting started late April typically. And your entrance, you would
come off a 19th off of 19th Avenue where the archery is and then go north. Yep. But everything we're going to do is going to stay on the west side of that little road. And there's over there holding pond or used to be a holding pond by the Right. Exactly. So
the parking lot by the existing building to the north that's too far of a walk then. Yeah. That's pretty good way. It's a lot more than you would think. Yeah. It's probably a good 120 yards maybe even. And then you wouldn't use the street,
the short street that goes into the street. So we won't even let people know that it's over there probably. If you're successful at getting the lease agreement, when do you suspect that you would have your first events? As soon as
we can sign that lease, we hope to be bringing in dirt. bringing in dirt the next day and hopefully getting going, you know, within a couple weeks. We've gotten construction bids from several contractors in the area and it's
looking like DunX would probably be the one to build it. So, I I guess I'm need some clarification. So, you're going to be on the the west side of the park. So, on the Fifth Street side. Yes. Street.
Okay. Okay. And then the parking, would you be parking? Uh there's that kind of shelter and there's a biffy there by the archery park. Would people be parking there?
I don't think we'd end up that far down there. Um like I said, the main principle is this first square up at top there, but then you know that's something that's subject. We can always make it bigger if we feel we need to. Um it's just more class 5 we'll have to
haul in that's all. And it kind of all starts to slope downhill pretty good right in that area too. Um but otherwise like in an event and the events aren't going to be huge right away. They're going to be decent. But the longer you
know longer we're doing it the more word gets out the more people will start to come. But like I said, we'd be, you know, people can easily park, you know, with your left side still on the right track of that roadway and one set of wheels in the grass. If
it's muddy, we just won't let people drive on the grass, obviously. Yeah. We might have to park them over at the mall and shuttle people over or something, but typically if it's too many to drive on that, it's probably going to be too money to use our course, too. So, that's
the other thing. We're not going to want to get our We're not going to want to gum them all up with mud and clay and then not having them run, tear the tracks up. This is a question for Rob. Is this the only area we looked for? Have we looked at other park like the park north of
Boss Park that's off the road out there? There's a lot of We have lots of other areas. Um why are we picking here? Because of the size of of what they would like to have. That's almost close to three acres is what they're looking at. We also have another spot that has
three acres. So, if we have a lease with them and they break the barrier, they have insurance then that will go through that. That's we're part of the lease agreement is we have to have a $2 million liability. So, we already have a lease agreement drawn up. We have draft
copy started to look at when they contacted me about their nonprofit as they want to make sure that there's an appetite that we can do this before. Yeah, we're we're putting a lot of hours and time into this and a lot of money already too. So before we go further, we
need to kind of say, "Yeah, we're going to let you guys do it or or so. That's kind of where we're at. We're We're probably a week away from submitting our 5013C paperwork. Anything else, Audrey?
Justin, um I'm kind of curious just It sounds like it'd be a piece of of um property that that couldn't be accessed just at any time. The way that you're talking about it, is that accurate? Like if I just wandered over there on a Thursday
night when it's super muddy and, you know, brought something with to run on the track like Right. fences like how is that maintained? We're going to put up a fence. Of course, it's only as it's like locks. They're only as good as the people are,
you know, decent. But we want to try and keep PE kids with motorcycles and bikes out of it cuz it's it's going to cost some money to maintain it the way it is, let alone having to go in there and try and fix somebody else's destruction, you know? Sure. So, we want to make sure the
only only people going into it at any given time is is a member with a card. Um, but like I said, we'll have open days and if we're there racing, somebody's comes up, they're obviously going to be able to come in, check it out. Yeah. We're not going to say no to
that. Right. Getting back to growing the hobby being a main reason for why you're doing this. So, Okay. Well, it's a big part of it, but yeah, we want to grow the hobby community at large, you know, from here all the way out to wherever we can bring people in from. And maybe then
just some of the concerns that Council Member Nelson has. I mean, uh, is this desirable land in your opinion? Like, would there be other places around the community you'd be interested in looking at? Um, you know, as we're working on on lease, drafting a lease agreement, or is
this like this is it? this the best thing like when you were dreaming about this for years, this is where you wanted it. Well, I mean it's it's a it's a good question and a good possibility. I don't know what's all out there. That's the other thing. Um I know Rob and I
discussed a few places over a year ago already. Um and looked at a couple things, but Rob really felt that, you know, I mean, this isn't going to be good for anybody to do anything with really. It's just pasture.
So thought was if we can use three acres of it and turn it into something that's great for the community, why wouldn't you? That's kind of my point, you know. Um it would be probably cheaper for us to build it somewhere else, honestly.
But and I'm not I'm not against if we have a different spot that's better, don't get me wrong. I just kind of wonder too like and maybe it's because there's nothing over there that I don't frequently look over there as I'm driving around, but I would think if I was you, I would want a more visible spot. Well, they'll see these I think
it's pretty visible big trucks going through the air. Trust me. Yeah. Yeah. All right. They'll be like doing a What is that? Rob, I've got a question for you. Um, if we go into this lease agreement and
heaven forbid that you leave, Is it in the lease agreement that they restore? Yes, it is. Okay, Audrey. Rick had a question, too. I'm not sure. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, thanks. Do you need water and
sewer? We will just use uh those mini biffs out there. Portaotties. Portaotties. Yep. I was just wonder did you look at the old quam land west of town across from the airport? I think is that like five or seven
acres? We can't build anything there. Where is this? Guam. The south side of 40. Yeah. They used to have grain bins and pole sheds there and they had to remove it because of that.
It would be, you know, two miles west of town on I know where you're talking about, but it's a paved road. Yeah. Yeah, you'd have plenty of room for expansion there. That wouldn't be bad. Yeah, we should probably take a look at that. Might be a possibility. Yeah, we
were just parks. Yeah, that's right. You're right. Yeah, Audrey. Um there have been there has been money available for like that the city could actually
have to reclaim that and to clean it up so that it could be developed for you know um the concern that I have that's something that I had hoped for somewhere down the road that we could actually clean that up and use it for commercial
property. Um, I hate to see I mean I don't know what what's in your lease and how long we're leasing it and you know any of those, but if we were able to do that and said, "Sorry, you have to move." I'm just wondering about trying to find you
somewhere that doesn't deal with all of these um issues that you're going to have to when you're putting up a fence or how deep you are or all those types of things. So, I'm I'm struggling with this one. Um, and I I just feel like we have
other land that might be uh better served for you than this. Okay. Yeah, I think that's a fair point. Yeah, we're open. We're open to looking. Yeah. Yeah. We just know we'd really like to get started. You know, we're we're kind of looking at end of August, early
September is kind of when we're hoping to break ground somewhere. Um, build ground. Build ground. Yeah. Steve. Uh, thanks, Mr. Mayor. Uh Robin, this might be for you or anybody else that has a history of the council. Do we have a It seems like based on the terms of the
lease and you guys are talking about putting a fence and charging membership requirement to access it. Do we have precedent for leasing public land that would not then be open to the public?
The the lease agreement addresses how it's going to be used for public, right? But he stood there and said, "You have to have a membership to access it." Yes. But we're we are still working out that that we feel like there might have
to be like a zigzag fence for kids be for participants to be able to use it instead of car. Okay. The thing is if they have a car, if they're legitimately wanting to go there and play with an RC car, they're going to want a membership and be able to go there. And they're not
going to want some other Yahoo wrecking it for them either. So, I mean, it's a pretty it's not something you want kids to just be able to ride their dirt bike in and ride. I get that. Yeah. But what he's saying and what you're saying seem to be different. Well, it's been brought
up when we talked about the city attorney. We've we've talked about that. So, it's still going to stay as Okay. That's part of why we want to do community days and be able to bring people in and let them have a chance to drive. And then um is there going to be
I assume part of that lease agreement is maintenance of the land would be their responsibility not so there's no long-term cost to the city. Correct. Or no recurring annual expense to the city. Correct. Okay. I think a lot of it tonight is just making
sure if the council's interested in doing this, we we can look at the what council member Fley said about and everything like that, but is there an appetite for this to keep? Sure. Thank you. Uh I'm curious what the length of the
term of lease we're looking at. Lifetime. It's a fiveyear lease right now. Five year automatic renewed similar to what Yeah, I reminds me of the time I spent on the on the parks board with the uh
trap group and having to maintain buildings and facilities and then seeing them get run down and so forth. So, um I think that yeah, making sure that those facilities are are up to the to par and and able to be maintained by the the
club. Uh especially when we have two separate entities, that's uh pretty critical to have. and then to know that if they aren't being kept up that the lease will terminate and it needs to be returned to its previous Mhm. situation
um which could be a costly expense. And so what I'm worried about is that a 501c3 may not have the funds to return it to its um previous uh condition. Yeah. So, uh, so I think those would be two items that, uh, we would want to
make sure that, uh, the lease has all Audrey. Well, the previous condition, to my knowledge, it's basically the old waste dump with some dirt on top of it. So, I don't, you know, we'd have to haul out what we did, but that would be it cuz we're building up. We're not going
down. Yeah. It But when the kids get in there and they want to run around there and there's no fence, that's and then now it's a liability for the city of Wilmer. I don't want that. Right. Audrey, thank you. I'm just curious. You're talking about a major investment. Yes. On leased land. Have you looked at
just buying something somewhere? Possibly. I guess we were trying to keep it in the city so it's had close access, you know. Oh, I know. But there's land for sale in the city. I'm just curious with if we need to help you try to find some place where it's more of a We're
open to options. Yeah. Okay. Ideally, once we got this done, the next step was we wanted to do an indoor facility also, like once we have our 501c3, you know, maybe we can use part of the mall or
some other building that's not being used, you know, where they're just paying rent to keep it there, heat, electricity. Well, hey, donate it to us. You know, now you can at least deduct that instead of paying to keep it heated and lights on in there. You know,
something to those kinds of arrangements. I guess before I I I'm skeptical of for both for you and for us right now. And I maybe we need to have you work with staff to see what other options there are before we make a
decision to go forward with this one. That's where I'm at anyway. Sure, Steve. Thanks, Mr. Mayor. Uh, pardon my ignorance, but what Rob, do you know what the digging ever digging restrictions mentioned a couple times. Do you know what the digging restrictions are out there? Remember,
I Jared, we wouldn't want to go too deep. We just the top soil. I mean, we're tightening that two or three feet, but we're just Yeah, he's talking about trench and power over there. You're talking about light poles someday. I mean, those go feet in the ground and fencing. and
fencing. So, I didn't know how that affected. Again, I'm not familiar with the restrictions out there. So, just want to make sure everybody's aware that when you start trenching power, you're two feet in the ground. And if the restrictions are above 2 feet, then you
could run into problem and not get potentially get the the amenities that you want, right? Yeah. The power's from a shed that's up. I mean, you can go overhead, but that's not ideal. It would come right along that ridge or that's already there where
I don't believe there's there's no restrictions there. Don't know. Okay. Yeah, Justin. Um, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, I just want to say like I love the idea. Uh, I'd love to find you a place in town to do this as quickly as possible and and to bring
this to reality. Um, I guess I'll just echo some of the concerns about is this the right location for you and encourage you to to work with staff on uh at least examining some other locations. Um and um to to council member Gardner's question when he asked about is there
precedent for doing this anywhere else where it's public land that we're leasing for a for a business or a you know to to come in and and for membership is there I know you we have something similar with the club.
Okay. also curling space from us. Okay. This would be something where like curling leases space that's also used by the city at other times. Like this would be no one else would be utilizing their space, I'm assuming.
Okay. And I'm not necessarily opposed to it. I was just kind of more curious. Um I thought it was a good question. All right. I'm looking for a motion to develop a lease agreement with the radio control park club to construct a radio
control park at Pleasant View Park. I I'm not sure we're ready for a motion. I'd like to see staff do more work and bring it back to us. So, anybody want to make a motion? So, moved. We got a motion. Do we have a
second? Do we have a second? I'll second. And we got a second discussion. Vicki, I just want to say I think it's a great idea. I love your idea. Um I just
would like to also look at different pieces of land for it, but I think it could be a great great addition to our community. Good thinking. Yeah, we're we're open to that. Yeah, absolutely. If you got a better location for us, that'd
be great. Any further discussion? Roll call. I'm sorry. Do we have a There's no city attorney present. Not today. Okay. Um, so I guess I'll ask the administrator then, too.
Um, approving this tonight has staff working with them to develop a lease that we could reject at a later date. Correct. Right. Um I guess my question comes down to like is it better to to table this to
approve this to reject this? Uh which I don't know is really a question that anyone can answer for me. But that's what's going through my mind. How how about this? cuz this is what we want to be able to go ahead and move forward. If we can pass something that
says yes, we're going to work with you and help you get this done. Go ahead for us to go ahead. Doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be here. Leave the option to investigate other places and do a final vote at the end as to where it's
going to be. Does that seem Yeah, absolutely. I want you I want you to move forward. I just don't know that this is the right place. So, I hope you continue to work on this, I guess. Um, do we need to amend the motion then? Well, I think I'm just going to offer a
motion to table this. Second. We got a motion to table. We got a second discussion. Roll call. I got Rick had something, Mr. Mayor. Oh, I'm sorry. You need something in writing for No, not necessarily. I
just would like a commitment that you guys are going to be behind us. Whether it's this place or someplace better, I don't care. I think it'd be a great idea. So, but I I don't really care for this location. I
would I don't want to table it. I'd move forward, but they'd have to work with staff to find a suitable location. Steve, can we have the motion say that we are approving Rob to move forward with terms of a
draft the terms of a lease at a pre at a yet to be determined location that would give you the backing that you need. Can he can start working on the lease and then the city staff can start finding a different location. Kind of satisfies all parties. When we say city staff, who
are you referring to, Rob? Okay. I just want to make sure. Is that your motion, Audrey? We're still in discussion phase. I think we need an attorney. Yeah, this is this is very uncomfortable, but it's my understanding that Rob has gone ahead and had our city
attorney already prepare a lease. Yeah, somewhat. Yeah. I don't know that we can offer you a lease if we don't know what property it's going to be on because I think this has a lot of lot of ifs and ors and buts and that would need to go in a lease that another property
wouldn't have. I'm just thinking that the fastest way is to try to do that before we we even had a motion. But um just from a legal standoint, personally, I'm okay with you guys if you just can all say, "Yeah, we we'll be
we'll back you up when we find the right place." But I don't know that we can say that. How can we say that we can back you up when we don't know for sure what it is that you want? Well, we want this. No, you want a piece of land to do this on, right? You don't necessarily want
this. And it might be less expensive for you to be somewhere else. Well, there's nothing wrong with less expensive. Trust me, I understand that. But what you're asking us to do tonight is make a decision off from the information we have right now. And we don't have it
all. Dustin, so I feel like we've got a motion plus another motion and talks of a third motion which So without a without an attorney in the room, my question would be I can stop you right there because you have a
tabled motion that's not debatable. So you may have to finish that motion on the tableing. Roll call. Who who said that? You have a motion to table. Yes, we do. Was we have to vote
on the motion to table without debate? Yes. Roll call. Council member Faggerly. No. Davis. No. shoulders. No. Oz, no.
Nelson, yes. Gilbertson, yes. Gardner, no. Two eyes, five nazs. We voted down to table. It is not table. Correct. That's back to my motion,
Justin. And so I I think now that we're back to Council Member Gilbertson's motion, uh I'm wondering if if you as maker of the motion and council member Schulz as a second would agree to uh withdraw that to allow council member
Gardner to make the motion that he suggested, which I find would be more favorable at this time since it seems that the consensus of the council is is not wanting to get tied down to this land. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to
uh amend my motion uh to develop a lease agreement with Radio Control Park Club to construct a radio control park. Period. I'll ask if there's a second first. I'll second that. Okay, we've got a second
now. Is that at the There's no location in that motion. Just that we'll keep talking about a lease. Comfortable with that. City
administrator. I think Carl, did you you needed to Did you I have to second his amendment. Yeah. Okay. I second. I I think Steve did, but I think you have to because you made the first one. Oh, sure. Second. Thank you.
Okay. Read the motion again to develop a lease agreement with the I'm not asking you to read it. I'm asking her to read it as it'll go into the record. That's our clerk's job to read the motion to us. I believe his motion, and correct me if I'm wrong, Council Member
Gilbertson, is to amend or to de amend the motion to develop a lease agreement to move forward with a project for the RC Park without a specific location listed. Is that correct?
Uh to develop to construct an RC park. Yeah. Uh, I think the wording I used was to develop a lease agreement with the radio control park club to construct a radio control park. Yes. So, the same
uh motion that's listed in our packet without the words at Pleasant View Park. Call for a motion to develop a lease agreement with the radio control park club to construct a radio control park.
Audrey, I honestly think they should be looking for land to buy versus that we lease them land on a park. Um, so my hope was that staff would work them to help them to find a place to be, not necessarily a
lease. So I'm going to vote no. And we wouldn't object to that either. We just got to find the right place. That's the main thing. Yeah. Um, we have a motion on the table. Roll call.
Council member Davis. I should I Osc. Hi Nelson. No Gilbertson. Hi Gardner. I and Faggerly. Hi. Six eyes's one no. That motion passes.
So work with staff. Right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody. All right. Um, next is a request to schedule a public hearing for adoption of the with Wilmer comprehensive plan. Christopher, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, today
I'm excited to uh request a motion to schedule a public hearing for the adoption of the with Wilmer comprehensive plan. Um, this will be we're aiming to have the public hearing on June 16th, 2025. um here in this building at our regular
council city council meetings. Uh the document will be um reviewed by planning commission on this Wednesday um with hopes that they will provide us with a recommendation that city council moves forward with adoption. The draft is currently public
now and u will be finalized soon and posted digitally on our website. And um the edits of the documents is in conjunction with feedback that we heard at our workshops um as or work sessions
as well as um public comments too that um the plan was open for a public comment period over about 45 days or so. Uh and so we'll have that document ready for you uh um by the 16th. So hoping
that you all would schedule a public hearing for it adoption. So move. Second. We got a motion and a second to schedule a public hearing for the adoption of the comprehensive plan on June 16th at 6:30
p.m. Discussion. Roll call. Council member Shelz. I. O. I. Nelson. I. Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Baggerly. Hi. And
Davis. I. Seven eyes. Zero. Who knows? That passes. Thank you, Christopher. Thank you. That is one. No, the next one. Next one. I moved on. The parking. Yes. Seventh Street, Wilmer
Avenue Southeast. Okay. I had Jared down for that. Yep. I'm going to bring Jared up back up. And so as you all as you all recall, UKAP rescals at 7th and Wilmer Avenue.
Um with the new additions to UKAP being built there as well as the ambulance garage uh on the west side of 7th. Um by engineer um during the planning commission, we
were requested to close off or restrict parking on seven on the seventh street. um per the ordinance the it has to be passed by a resolution per and the engineers um recommendation. So Jerry did provide the recommendation which is
found in your packet. Um I kind of highlighted the street where we would restrict parking and that's just for emergency vehicles as well as the bus barn that is there to operate. So, I'll be looking for a motion to
approve by resolution the parking restriction on 7th Street Southeast um from Wilmer until 19th Street Southeast as recommended by planning commission. So, second I got a motion and a second discussion. Audrey,
um I can't vote for no parking and plus Bolton and Nick said when the ambulance garage is completed, that's not going to be for another whole year. There's a garden that's going on there. There are cars there in the morning and afternoon, evening. Right now, um to not have
parking on that street right now, to me, it doesn't make sense because it's not necessary until I can see parking on one side and being on the the other side to protect ambulances and buses been able to go up and down the street. Right now, parking on one side, yes, but why no
parking? So, we are trying to be proactive. Uh UKAP will be opening their uh doors really soon in the month of June I believe and so tenants should know not to park on uh the street just for the bus bus barn. I know there has
been issues um during construction that vehicles parked on that street and the bus barn definitely wanted that not to that was one of the conditions that they came to the public hearing to share at planning commission and so this is our way of being proactive just to make sure there is no parking on the street. I I I
get the concern and if UKAP is parking in their parking lot it's not going to be on a regular basis there's parking in the street but we certainly don't need to do it now until it's done. Okay. Because the this garden is going to be there and if guest sells that property
somewhere there will be access I would think not from Wilmer Avenue but from 7th Street and so I think we need to wait that out a little bit too but um I can't support it feels like we could do one
side but certainly not now maybe when it's completed. Do you want to add anything to that? Justin, so to council member Nelson's concerns about the garden, where am I supposed to park if I want to go to the garden?
So, the garden right now is in talks of being relocated. This will be the last season that um it will be there. So, to Council Member Nelson's point, tonight may not be the best night for this. that correct me if I'm wrong, but you all can
approve by resolution that we move forward to restrict parking on Seventh Street. But if there's certain stipulations that you want to put in there that we do it at the end of this summer um or early fall whenever the the guarding seasoning is over, we can do
that, too. So, and Justin, we can do um directed dowo, we can do a certain time. We don't have to wait until we do it. Correct. We could do it at any at any time that the council Sure. I think I
would like to see parking restricted to maybe only the the west side that and that should help I think deter people who might be with UKAP from parking on their side of the street. They do have a parking lot that it sounds like they
would be able to, you know, there's more than enough space for their residents to be there in that parking lot. It doesn't seem like it would change the the flow of traffic for the bus or the ambulance. Okay. If there was only parking on the
west side, Carl, so I'm not real familiar with the land around the garden. Could people drive right up onto the grass to park off the street? Is that There's curb there.
Okay. Can we do it like November 1st? Absolutely. Audrey, does Care even know when they're going to start? The last I heard they had they had the bids were higher than they liked and they were rebidding and do they know when they're actually going to start? I have not heard of a start date for them and I can double check
about if any permits were pulled because it isn't I mean the bus barn can deal with it as it is. I know the construction parts were were a troubling at that time but but that's done.
Okay. Um when the UKAP uh is there sufficient parking where the UKAP builds is that designed correctly according to our Okay. I mean the if buses can get in out of there they've been doing that for at
least 40 years. I would think an ambulance should be able to get in out of there as well. Probably could have some restrictions. I just without no parking on those streets or parking on one side if you want to do it as temporary. But if if we do not restrict
parking, the fear is and people are parked on both sides of the street that either buses will be delayed or emergency vehicles will be delayed and won't be able to get through. Okay.
Mr. Mayor, so what's sufficient parking? You want to talk about this? One one car per unit or Oh, for UKAP? Yeah. Uh, so we did um I can take a look back
at the plan, but I believe it is u one parking stall per unit um plus staff per bedroom. Per bedroom. Yes. Thank you. It's one parking stall per bedroom now. So, how many two-bedroom units are there there? I wish I knew that off the top of
my head. Um, looks like there were six units. Well, there's 11 units total. So, up and down. Yes. Okay. But, you know, it's a rental. It's transitional housing. So, people, but they're going to have guests.
There's going to be more vehicles than you think. All you got to do is drive down Fifth Street on those apartments. That's why there's no parking November to April 1st. So, that's what's going to happen here. Mhm. So, you're doing a
good job by eliminating parking right away so they don't get in a habit, right? Parking on the street. So, thanks for that, Audrey. I guess I'm wondering why we don't try one side of the street first of all, and if it's not working or there's problems,
go to no parking. There's no one that parks parks there unless they're doing the gardening or I mean it's not like they park and walk across the street to woodland centers. They don't. And UKAP
isn't even open yet. So, um I don't know. I I I don't like the no park no parking and I certainly don't like it starting now when there's no reason to start it now. Again, we can we can schedule it to be pushed out to the end of the season, too.
Steve, thanks, Mr. Mayor. Uh Jared, maybe you can answer this question. In the letter uh from you to Chris, to Mr. Corvett, it talks about minimum width require guidelines for parking. Is that something that is done at the state
level? Is it just an industry standard? Um, are there other places in town where we're ignoring it? Because it sounds like we're ignoring it now because you can park on both sides of the roads. Could you speak to that a little bit? Sure, Mayor Council. Um, you're correct.
That 32 ft that I referenced as a state aid standard. Um, there are other areas throughout communities that um have parking on one side of a street with a 28 foot wide street. Um, strictly it's a 32 foot standard from state aid. So, um,
that's what it's based on. And, you know, if we had a new development come into town, minimum street width 32 ft, allows parking on one side. That's really the standard that I referenced. So, good question. Okay. What's the motion?
It's in front of us. I believe it was the the motion was to adopt the res uh resolution to approve parking restrictions from 7th Street Southeast from the Wilmer Avenue Southeast to 19th Avenue Southeast. Are you ready to vote on that?
Is there an appetite to amend it to at least wait until the place is built? I'm open to amending it to the end of the growing season to allow the people that are using the property, the garden property to finish what they're
doing. That property is the the ambulance garage is moving forward. We're going to do it. So, I know that project is moving forward. Justin, the amendment I'd like to see happen would be um just restricting it on one
side. So you can park on the west side, which I think helps with the garden season. And I think we get to live into it when the ambulance garage is built. If this continues to be a problem, I'm assuming you would come back to us and
say we have real life experience now to say that it needs to be no parking on either side. So I'll make the motion to uh amend uh allowing parking restriction on the east side. Am I correct, Mr. Corbett? You are. Yes. Thank you.
Is there a second to the amendment? Oh, how many motions do we have on the table? This would be a second. I thought we just had the one. We have one. An amendment. One and an amendment. Oh, and Steve had amended that motion. Okay. Got it. That's just
And we've got the amendment. We got a motion. Second on the amendment for the east side. Any discussion on the amendment? Not. Roll call.
Council member Os I. Nelson. Hi. Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Faggerly. I Davis. Hi. And shoulders. Hi. Seven eyes. Zero nos. The amendment passes. Now we want
to vote on the resolution approving the parking restriction. Any further discussion? Roll call. Council member Nelson. I. Gilbertson.
Gardner. I. Faggerly. Hi. Davis. Hi. Shoulders. I and Os. Seven eyes, zero nos. That motion passes. Thank you. All right. Thank you, Jared and
Christopher. All right. Last uh is the consideration of a Sunday liquor license for the VFW. Renee. So, in the past, the VFW um has had a Sunday license. Upon renewal at the
beginning of the year, they opted to not renew their Sunday license and have now changed their mind and have applied for a Sunday license again. They must have determined that they were getting calls for business on Sundays and realized that maybe they needed that license after all. So, um, on May 12th, the
police department or Chief Holm did recommend the application be approved. And so, we've brought it further now to the council for approval. I'm just looking for a motion to approve that Sunday license or to reinstate it to re reassign a new license for them. So move. Second. Got a motion and a second
to approve the Sunday liquor license for VFW 1639. Any further discussion? Roll call. Council member Gilbertson. Hi. Gardner. Hi. Lee. Hi. Davis. I
should. Hi. Osc. Hi. And Nelson. I seven eyes, zero nos. That motion passes. That concludes other than um announcements. Anybody got announcements? Justin, you
allow a question instead of an announcement? Yes. Okay. I'm just wondering where our attorney is this evening. Saving you money. Yeah, we didn't think there was going to be that much controversy tonight.
Surprise. Yep. Has to be. Thank you. All right. We have a motion to adjurnn. Move to adjourn. Second. We're adjourned.