Great. We start our county board meetings with the public comment option. Uh we have two minutes per speaker. Anybody wishing in the audience to to speak to the county board, we ask you to step to the podium and give your name and address. And also if there's anybody
online that wants to give us a twominut um speaking opportunity. So is there anybody in the audience that would like to address the Winona County Board? Commissioner Ward, I would Can you hear me? >> Yes. Who? >> Hello.
>> Yes, please go ahead. >> Uh, this is Chassity Saraki. I live at 1254 West Third Street in Winona. I'd like to comment today regarding the committee of the board meetings. There have been two requests by commissioners within the past six months to add
discussion topics to the agenda of the committee of the board that have not made it onto an agenda. According to the minutes of the April 22nd, 2025 county board meeting, quote, on motion by Commissioner Ward and seconded by Commissioner Eling to add a discussion
regarding public data request process at a future committee of the board meeting, end quote. And according to the minutes of the September 9th, 2025 county board meeting, quote, on motion by Commissioner Ward and seconded by Commissioner Elsing to add a discussion
regarding the potential creation of a citizen advisory finance committee at an upcoming committee of the board meeting. End quote. I'm very concerned that the requests for discussion made by our elected rep representatives are being ignored. And it doesn't escape my
attention that both of these particular requests could potentially lead to actions that place greater scrutiny and accountability onto county administration. I hope that this is just a mere coincidence. I request that the board demands that these items be added to the next committee of the board
agenda. And if there are other ignored motions for discussion by any of the commissioners that I've missed, I apologize. Any request by any commissioner that is seconded for discussion should get the attention that it deserves. Thank you.
>> Thank you. >> Is there anyone else wishing to address the Winona County Board? >> Is there anyone else wishing to address the county board? And last time, is there anyone else wishing to address the county board?
Seeing nobody, thank you very much. Uh we'll move on to uh item number four, approval of the county board meeting minutes. We have 4.1 the county board of October 14th and 4.2 the closed session of October 14th. >> I'll second.
>> You have a motion by Commissioner Elling, second by Commissioner Meyer to approve the meeting minutes. Any discussion? All those in favor say I. >> I post nay. Meeting minutes approved. Um, moving into number five, acknowledge receipt of approved committee meeting
minutes. Uh, 5.1 is the parks and environment advisory from August 5th, 2005. >> 25. >> Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Olsen, second by Commissioner Vagely to acknowledge the receipt. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I.
>> Post nay. Okay. Approved. All right. Item number six. This is consent, comments, and approval of the agenda. Um, Attorney Sonamon, >> nothing for me tonight. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh, Commissioner Vaguely, >> few things, please. >> Uh, is that at the end? Announcements type of thing. Okay.
>> I'm sorry. Announcements and a request. >> And a request. >> Possible future agenda. >> Okay. All right. Commissioner Eling. >> Uh, comments at the end. Pull 73 and 76 for discussion. >> Okay. 73 76. So let's make 73
um 8 0 and you said 7.6 is the vera 7.6. We'll make that 8 05. We'll put those at the beginning of the general business if that works.
>> Commissioner Olsen, >> nothing. >> Okay. Commissioner Meyer, >> I'm want to give an update on the hazard mitigation plan review and I have a request for board act. Okay. All right then, Miss Holty. >> Nothing, Madam Chair.
>> Okay. Um, I have some questions. Um, 7.1. So, I want to pull that. So, make that 8. Oh, I don't know, six, I guess. And, um,
let's see. We pulled 7.3 and we pulled 76. Um 7.7 I I would ask for a uh separate vote. So make that 8.07 please. And then um just a a comment at
uh 7.8 if I could. Uh we can you can read that and I'll make my comment so the public knows what we're doing there please. and then um I'll have a a update from my AMC regional meeting at the end of the meeting. So with those
corrections, I'll move to approve the agenda as it was amended. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Meyer, second by Commissioner Olsen to approve the agenda as amended. Okay, >> good luck. >> All right, we're going to do all in
favor say I. Oppos. Approve. Now, if we can figure out what we changed. >> All right. Please correct me if I say >> okay. 7.1 was pulled. 7.2 approve resolution to cancel stale warrant
checks. 7.3 was pulled. 7.4 award bid for CASA 26 bridge replacements to Icon Constructions LLC. 7.5 Approved resolution for local road improvement program projects. 7.6. was pulled 7.7
was pulled 7.8 approved Minnesota paid leave policy 7.22 22 comment. >> The comment on that one is so that the public knows is that that is part of I got the right one. Uh part of the state
of Minnesota's um brilliance to add additional um paid leave for our employees. And this is not only government, but it's private sector and and any business with a certain amount of employees. And it does cost us.
It it is an insurance policy that is being split between the employee and the employer. And it doesn't sound like much. It's like 0.88% of payroll. But for Winona County, Winona County's portion, if I've got this right, is like $225,000. >> 40. I think
>> it's approximately 1% of levy. >> Yeah, it's approximately 1% of levy that the great state of Minnesota has decided. It's a good thing. Um but uh everybody is going to be paying for that. So it just so people understand uh the benefits are always changing. Thank
you. >> 7.9 approve updated Americans with Disabilities Act policy 1.11. 7.10 Approve authorization of contracts for septic system upgrades using watershed based implementation funds.
7.11 approve renewal of gun range agreement with Winona Police Department. 7.12 approve resolution for donations received July 1 through September 30th of 2025 and 7.13 confirm payment of dispersements.
>> I move to approve the consent business as it was read. >> I'll second that. >> We have a motion by Commissioner Meyer, second by Commissioner Bailey to approve the consent business as read. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. >> Post nay. Okay, that is approved. Uh
then general business um let's see >> 8.0 7.3 >> 7.3 uh Commissioner um Elzing pulled that. >> Yep. >> All right. And that is on page 141.
Okay. Your questions, Commissioner? >> Yeah. So just a couple things and I I want to bring this up more on a public aspect um so more people are aware of some of the things that we have to do in government. Uh, one of the questions
that I have is is this, you know, a lot of this is done through the lacrosse. Is that out of lacrosse? Any of this? I know this Winona, but isn't it govern isn't something to do? >> They have a location >> le location across, right? Yes.
>> Okay. But one of the questions that I have is having multiple locations, is this in in being kind of the dominant side of things, is there is there any checks and balances to these rates? Is there a way to say, "Hey, this is competitive. Is anybody else offering this?" Because it's, you know, there's
some pretty a lot of money we spent here, you know? So, the question is is what's what's stopping this from just being out of control, I guess. Is there who can we again, we go back ways to cutting cost? >> Um, and some of these things that are
mandated. Um, is this something we could be doing in house? Is it something that I'm just there's a lot of there's a lot of cash sitting here. So >> this is a grant, right? >> No, this is levy money. >> Levy money. >> All out of levy.
>> I can follow up with the questions. Um to the best of my recollection, there are not many people who provide these services locally. >> No. And that's why I look because it's also in lacrosse and it's here. And I'm just saying that's what scares me is that there's not.
>> And you know, if this was $15,000, but when you start looking at a4 million, it's 1% of what we do. >> There's discretion in that. So I just wanted to pull it on that. What's the kind of the and and then also there was
zero history as to, you know, is this gone up exponentially over the last few years? You know, are they coming down based on competition? So, I just wondering, you know, what's the system of checks and balances because again, it is a pretty substantial amount of money. Um, and is there is there a bid
contract? Could we award a bid contract? Is there is there another way to do it, I guess. So, >> I can follow up with the questions. I don't have all of those at the top of my head. >> Can is it is it imperative that we take action or can it be tabled? >> That was my last question. Um, I would
anticipate that we could table it. Um, being that the contract is not uh applicable until January of 2026. So, I would think we have a little bit of time to questions >> maybe just see is it going up or going down and and and if nothing else, I doubt they're listening. Um, you know,
you start asking questions and oftentimes people get a little conscious about their rates. >> So, >> well, and it's 63 clients and we've spent 27,000. So, you know, that's over $3,000 per client. So, I'm not sure. Yeah, it is a good chunk of change.
>> Okay. Then, we still have a quarter left. >> So, if you look at that, it's about a little over a quarter mill, 275,000. >> So, the number is actually significantly more than that. >> So, um a motion to table. >> I would like to Yeah, I would like to motion to table it and just get a little
more information on it. I guess >> I'll second that motion. >> All right. We have a motion and a second. Motion made by Commissioner Eline, second by Commissioner Vegley to table 7.3 until a future meeting. All those in favor say I. I. >> Nay. Okay. Tabled. >> Make a motion to pass that copy.
>> Okay. Um let's see then. Commissioner Eline, you had um 7.6. >> Oh yeah. >> That's the CA. >> You got to sell me on this. >> Yeah. And and you weren't here for our last meeting, right?
Page 174. Good evening, Todd Seller, director of human resources. Uh, so Cava, um, did you have some questions first or >> Well, obviously I wasn't here last meeting, but I still wanted to bring it up because my biggest fear I I'll make
my comment first. My biggest fear is we get started and we can't get off there and and we we create a service, there's an expectation that it's always there, the price goes up, nobody's actually using it, but heaven forbid you take it away, right? We see that just in anything, right? It can be anything. So
that is my biggest fear is that is is this going to be realized? There's a savings of 60,000 or something like that. I read >> so start with the savings is 120,000. Um that's a reduction in our Blue Cross Blue Shield uh premium >> but it cost us >> but it's 60,000 cost. So it's in essence
a a cost factor. You asked me to really push the numbers and get a cost factor savings. It is a $63,000 savings for us. Now, as far as the contracts itself, it's a one-year contract and it's not a defined product in any of our contracts. So, we can if we're not seeing the
results, we can pull it. >> So, my question is is how did we determine the 120? Did Blue Cross Blue Shield say we will give you $120,000 credit? Is that correct? >> Reduce, not a credit, reduce our premiums. >> Reduce however that looks like >> to do this. If if we don't do Cava, then
it is an increase in our in our premiums. Yeah. >> Is there is there a >> writing? Okay. >> We've got it defined. I mean that has been defined. Yeah, >> that was my that was my that was my I have a series of things here. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Write writing is part of that and making sure that hey I go back on that
>> our premiums are set with this >> right. So but I go back to allude this today it saves us money eventually it could be cost neutral and eventually could cost us money and then we created another system that we've got another service we got to pay for that may or
may not be used. So, I just want to make sure that, you know, the history is that it continues to save us money or is this the catch to get you in the door, next year it goes up, the year after it now becomes an expense. So, somebody needs to write that down in their calendars like I do and scroll three years ahead
and say, "Review this because oftenimes it's like insurance. They get you in the door and it goes up." >> And like I I stated before, I mean, my expectation from Northrisk since we have a consultant now is monthly trends. where we at who's using not employees
but what are our trends utilizing it and what are our trends as far as our our um utilization of the other products that we have in our insurance. >> So three years from now I want to repeat >> well no one year I'll I'll be back in front of you one year.
>> We have a motion commissioner to approve by Commissioner Olson second by Commissioner Meyer. Um I a couple comments. I do I I I I'm not comfortable with this thing and actually at um and I I had heard briefly of this and I gave
it to Miss Holy at our AMC meeting yesterday. there's a uh partner with AMC about uh a chant plan and I I'll ask you to look at that and there's a webinar or zoom coming up within the next week um of a a type of program which actually
puts more money in our employees pocket uh uh reduces employee FICA tax by $500 per participating employee per year and zero net to the employer. So there's a lot of things going around that I don't know if it's something we can jump on
quicker than than sooner than later. Um but a whole different thing and it it's related to health health care uh and similar to what you have there. Um and then uh from a personal experience, can I opt out? I don't want this. Do but you got to pay $27 for me because I'm on
that on the county's plan. >> Yeah, >> I can opt out. >> It's it's every insured life that we have. Yeah. >> Okay. See, I don't like that either. But Commissioner Vley, >> I'm going to vote in favor of the motion. And last meeting I asked this and other want to state it again. This is optional for employees. Correct.
>> One has to do. >> They don't have to do it, but we have to pay for it. >> But in terms of they don't they have the choice. >> Yeah. They don't have to. >> Later we're going to see we're going to >> Right. Right. And and I'll just say off of that, I mean, with you're I think we're going to see more and more trends
like this because we're losing more and more doctors in our rural communities. And when you can use an online like this and have a service that'll do a lab, I mean, like I mentioned, I had four kids. Once one gets strep, you're taking them all to urgent care. You're spending hours there getting, you know, exposed
to other things. So, I do think it's going to be a benefit. It's just getting our employees to utilize it. I hope it's not going to be I'm not going to see that it's going to be a cost increase. It shouldn't be. We should see a cost reduction extra when I come in front of you with our premiums. >> Now, there was a clause in in what I
read um non you're visiting with non-f physician health care professionals. So, is a registered nurse a non-f physician health care person? Sounds like here you're not talking to a doctor when you call in. They have to be able to prescribe
medication by law. I mean, they have to be licensed at some level. A nurse practitioner. >> Yeah. Physicians assistant, nurse practitioners, right? >> And uh the last question I have, did did our insurance company vet this? We have an insurance internal insurance company,
don't we? Group. >> MCIP. >> No, no, no. >> Insurance committee. >> Insurance committee. The insurance >> Yeah. I had an insurance committee discussion with them. Yeah. >> Yep. that was brought up at our >> I'm not optimistic about this program,
but we have a motion in a second. Uh, Commissioner Elsie. >> Yeah. And if we can stack horsepower, let's stack horsepower. You know, >> this if we can do this, I don't know. >> You know where I'm going with that. >> Yeah. >> You know, I just again the red flag goes up because these programs get started and then it kind of falls in. We forget
why we did them and it just becomes an expense down the road. So, thank you. No, I I agree. If it's going to save us money and it's definitive and we know it, we just need moving forward be cautious. I'll support the motion. >> But with caution, does this become a union negotiated item?
>> Well, so I did ask that question, brought that question up. >> It it is not defined in our contracts. I mean, we don't have Cava is going to be defined in our contracts. We have what we have defined is what our percent that we pay as the employer of their premium.
>> And I was disappointed there are no other county. You gave me a handful of people using it. there were no other counties and I wasn't able to get a hold of any small cities that are using it to know see what their track record is. So again, when I don't have any other counties in the state of Minnesota using it, I'm a little apprehensive because
I'm not a groundbreaker. We we counties like to follow each other. We don't like I don't like to break ground. >> If we can get a cost savings, that's my >> I won't get a commission on it though. Um for Winona County. All right, the motion's been made and seconded. All those in favor say I. >> I oppose. Nay. I'm gonna say nay. That's
prove me wrong. >> All right. Now we've got um >> 7.7 >> 7.7. Yeah, let's go to 7.7. Approve non-union wage grid amendment. >> Approve. I'll second.
>> Yeah. Okay. We have a motion by Commissioner Olsen, second by Commissioner Vagely to approve the non union wage grid amendment. And again, we've lost an opportunity to do any kind of pay for performance, so I will not support it. So, all those in favor of the motion say I.
>> Oppos? Nay. Nay. Okay. 32. Pass. >> You did not discuss item 71. That became 8.0. >> Yeah, I'm I'm going. >> You're there. >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm sorry. Thank you. You didn't forget. Yes. Thank you. Okay. Let's jump back up to 7.1, approve contract with Justice Management
Institute, page 132. and um I guess I'm I'm all these great things that have um reports and everything, but this one I think the funding um I think we really have to look in our whole budget thing
of this 5050. So, we get a grant, but we still we still got to come up with 10,000. And I hate to say it, you guys have always told me what a great job you're doing, all the good things and everything. So why do I need a report telling me that or what what is the expectation results of spending 10,000
out of my local property taxpayers for this type of report or whatever it is educate me I guess. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for the question. Um Gwen Herbert, executive director of CJCC. Um and I'll be up here for the rep plus program here in a minute too. Um so
uh yes, the 5050 grant um situation is the good and the bad. So that the their rationale for doing it is so that they can offer um more of these opportunities to more people. So double the people that they can serve and they're asking for some investment back from the
jurisdictions. Um but yes, especially for smaller jurisdictions like ours, that is a lot of money and I want to acknowledge that um what uh this can provide us. So the reason that I um was interested in it um I attended uh the
national network of uh CJCC's um at the beginning of September which was run by the justice management institute. So they're the ones who um have created the national standards for CJCC's and are really the gold standard for um helping CGCC's become more effective and uh
start uh in in um their inception. Um, I've talked with many people who have used them for their technical assistance, um, and heard nothing but fantastic things. They were able to help their CJCC's run more effectively, do even better work. The reason that I really felt like it was a good time
right now to do this was because of the reason that we haven't done strategic planning for CJCC in over 10 years. Um, and I, you know, I'm about a year and a half into the role. I really felt like we needed it a year ago, but I was still taking my time to get, um, my feet under me. Um, and at this point it feels like
it's a really good time. So, what they're able to provide is really the the foundation for which we can jump off and do our own strategic planning. Um, the fact that they're able to do these interviews with all of the main council members and provide that report really uh, you know, people are going to
probably be able to have more kind of conversations with someone like that than they would with me. Um, and I really think we'll be able to um, sus out some things that we can focus on moving forward. um we just have not had the opportunity to do something that in depth um up through this point or in the
last decade or more. >> I'll move to approve what was item 7.1 second. >> Hey, we have a motion by Commissioner Bagley, seconded by Commissioner Olsen. But again, I'm sorry, what are they going to tell
you to do a different form to process people or, you know, it all sounds good on paper, but I guess I I'm still unclear as what what we will gather from this. So, yeah, they're going to interview people and and I'm sorry the people that most of the people are going to, oh, this is great, you know, a great
program. You should keep funding it. But, well, and and the interviews aren't going to necessarily be about how effective CJCC is. It's more the questions are going to be more how can our justice system be more effective and and really getting those sorts of stories out and together >> control over the justice system that's
at a higher pay grade than ours. >> Well, yeah. >> Yeah. >> If I could give just one simple example. So what um director Herbert talks on in here is that the last thing that that I was involved in was the sequential intercept mapping that came up with a
list of like I don't know 10 or 15 things that are missing for them from the community. So one of them was um that that then the courts committee took a part of and we don't have results yet
that show us the savings, right? But we now do pre-trial monitoring. And that was a thing where the courts committee of the CJCC came up with a plan working with Department of Corrections so that rather than stay in jail for X number of time until your arraignment or whatever,
certain sets of of folks who had been arrested could be let out with a monitor. So it's less expense for us in the jail. It's less expense for them. It doesn't create a public safety problem. and it is kind of works out better for everybody. But that's an example of an
item that was listed in the last sequential intercept mapping and that the the team like sort of different committees of the CJCC worked on. So some of them do save the county money and they really are looking for things that are missing and where we can help
people better and potentially save money. So, but wouldn't you rather take the $10,000 and put it towards the existing programs that you're always looking for more funding and everything, make help some more drug court people and stuff like that? >> Yeah. And if we were talking about next
year's budget, 100% this is the the timing of this I felt like was good in that the reason that there is even that money that's left here is because I wasn't able to spend as many hours on my contract at the beginning of this year due to some personal circumstances. Where does the where does the other 10
come from? State, federal. >> So, no um it's a grant through the MacArthur Foundation to the Justice Management Institute. >> So, I guess now you've confused me. Is this funding for next year? >> No, the goal. Yeah, we we would be
spending it in 2025. >> The kickoff if approved tonight. >> Is this budgeted? >> Yeah, Miss Holy. >> There is the money in the budget. Yes. But not there's just extra in that professional at the beginning. >> There's extra in that professional contract. It's that's the slush fund.
I'm sorry as I refer to it. >> Well, it's all my hours that that professional contracted services. It's just my contract. >> It's not a slush. I mean, >> well, we everybody has it in their departmental budget. And believe me, it >> covers a very broad type of of project. >> This is the professional services
contract that that runs Miss Herbert's work, which is very >> 100% that line item. Yeah, it's not it doesn't go to fluff stuff if you want. >> But how did we come up with an extra$10,000 then if it was her salary? >> She said that she wasn't able to generate the hours due to a personal.
>> So I'm I charge hourly. So it's not so you save us $10,000. >> Save the $10,000 >> and hopefully there was >> we should just put that in the bank instead. I don't necessarily need to spend it. Okay. All right. I you know my feelings there. Um so let's see. We had a motion by what? Commissioner vaguely.
Second by Commissioner Meyer. Olson. >> Olsson. >> Sure. >> Um, all those in favor of approving the contract for the Justice Management Institute, >> say I >> oppose. Nay. Nay. >> All right. Um, then let's see. We have enough. Did I have another one? >> I think that's it, is it?
>> Let me just check. >> Yeah, I think um we made it. I'm surprised, Commissioner Vagely, you didn't pull the bridge one because bridges are >> $3.4 million million. Well, speaking of bridges, um we said our our our legislators, you
know, we need to educate them and we'll have new legislator legislators and county commissioners and everything. And I highly encouraged because we had a number of highway um engineers in the room to take new legislators out and go under the bridges. Don't drive over them, go under them because the road and
bridge amount of money, tax money is getting cut too all the time. And I support want the public to know how much this that's not a big bridge. which is not a heavily used bridge. >> It's our biggest one though. I think it's our longest one in Winona County or >> the span. Yes. Yeah. >> Terms I should say. >> Yeah, they're huge.
>> Bridges. Yes, bridges are very expensive. Okay. Um then I apologize. Um 8.1 general business received presentation on re-entry assistance program plus and that starts on page 235. >> Hello me again. >> Back again. Thank you for having me
tonight. So, this is another example of something that uh has come out of CJCC's work and um and I wanted to come in front of you tonight to explain a little bit about um how we used the money that was um given
to us by you all for this past year. This past year, um, as you might remember, was the first year, uh, that RAP Plus program received county funding up through now, uh, or up through last September 30th. Uh, it was under a series of, um, at first Minnesota state
grants and then, uh, federal grants, uh, for the last four years of the, of the program. Um so for anybody um curious to hear a little bit about uh the program itself um a re-entry program in its um simplest
form u helps folks who are um in incarcerated uh re-entering society um more successfully. Um and our uh re-entry program is a little bit different and I'll talk about that here in just a little bit. So, uh, to give you a sense of the
program staff that work on the program, um, we have, uh, not only myself here, but also Trish Chandler, um, and Katie Shield. Trish Chandler is Jellington take worker. Katie Shield is our, uh, jail social worker. Um, our RAP plus case managers, our, uh, Trish
Costello there, um, she's employed by Hath Valley Mental Health. Um, and then her counterpart, Sierra Sheir, and then our treatment court coordinator, Karen Haidider, is also one of the case managers. Unfortunately, she couldn't be here tonight. She's at a training. Um and then the Haywatha Valley uh
supervisor is Kate Deer. Um myself um kind of oversee all um parts of the program. Our department head is um Sunman. Um and then we wouldn't be the program we are right now without of our uh community referrals. Um mostly coming from DOC, probation, public health,
health valley, chips um and common ground. So uh the idea of uh the program being a plus uh so it did start as wrap and then we added the plus um the idea of that was uh that it is not just a program for those um who are coming from uh custody
um it can include anyone with any justice contact uh including a call for service welfare checks case etc. um of course available only to Winona County residents. Uh but the idea of the program is uh that it's both used in uh intervention and prevention um measures
from future genesis interaction um through addressing root causes for that um interaction um including um as we know mental health and um substance abuse treatment um most and then um all of the social determinance of health otherwise employment, housing,
transportation, education, food um and social integration. So, um the idea is that the more that we can help um people uh before they reach um the level of being arrested that we can um save the count county money but
also keep our community safer. So, um just a sense of how the program works. Um folks apply through the program. Um that jail intake worker processes those applications. Um then they are assigned a case manager either through Hayawatha Valley. So that'll be
um for anybody um that is outside of custody. That's who they're assigned right away. Um or um our treatment court coordinator if they're sentenced in. Um and then anyone who's in custody will be on a case load with the jail social worker until um they are released and
transferred over to Hawwa Valley. Uh the program does give a financial assistance that's all managed through their case managers. Um so the case managers have to approve of the funding with um the client and then that is sent over to me for initial approval and then to our
department head Miss Sonan. Um the funding requests that come through manage things like assessments for mental health and substance abuse, housing, education, identification, clothing, transportation um and everything um that is applied
through for funding is um tied to their individual treatment plan. um and their case managers are the ones um making those decisions and then also deciding when they might be ready for graduating from the program. So to give you a sense of budget because
I know that's on everybody's mind right now um the total budget um this year is the jail social worker and fringe and then uh 64,200 for contracted services um and supplies. Um, so that's 49,200 that go to recovery support services,
which are all of the things funding requests are submitted for. Um, and then 15,000 for program management um, contracted services. Those are my hours on the program. Um this summer um you all approved um an agreement with Hayotha Valley um for additional
services with the case managers um and that was an additional 31,000 but that was funded through the can substance abuse prevention grant um and then the 3500 from that program management contract to services above. Um this year we also received 60,000
from the opioid settlement fund um and we have made that request again for 2026. So, in some uh levy dollars paid for the jail social worker position plus $4,200 for the entire program and there's no changes to that in uh those upcoming budget request.
Um I want you to know what a good steward I um I have tried to be with all of that money um and uh really want to show you in the subsequent slides what value um it's bringing our community. >> Question on that social worker. So our our jail population is
hovers around 16 to 20 it seems like. So is that a full case load for a jail social worker? If we had more prisoners, we'd need more staff or is this a part-time position? >> Uh I can assure you it is not a part-time position. Um Katie Shield's u
role is very full. Um, so her case load is not only any anybody who's in custody and everybody who's in custody, but also those that have been released that have not yet been assigned to a case manager at H Highwa Valley. Um, so that case load could be anywhere from 20 to 40 people. Um, and I have some numbers here
on the subsequent slides about the number of folks that she met with. Uh, but she is not only just doing case management for those people, but a lot of other functions. um namely uh she is the conduit for uh court-ordered and otherwise substance abuse um treatment
making those connections actually finding beds um getting behavioral health funding um to help pay for that treatment and and getting them off with supplies that they might need to to be successful in that transition. >> So I not having a lot of experience in the criminal element. So is everybody
that goes through jails a case worker? They can't just do their time or pay their fine and leave. >> Everybody gets touched and handled here. >> So everybody has will meet with with uh the jail social worker. Yes. Um so they have access to use
>> mandated or is that option? >> It's not mandated. Yeah. No, this was this was something we decided to implement to be able to address some of the needs that folks coming into custody were having. So, for example, she sits down with them and they say, "I I I
don't have a place to live." And she can start uh identifying a treatment plan and saying, "Okay, how can we get you some resources to connect get connected to housing um or food or clothing or treatment, um any number of things people, a lot of folks that don't have any forms of identification, she can
help uh get a copy of a birth certificate, she can start, um some paperwork on a driver's license, things like that. So, yeah. Um, everybody has access to it. Um, it is, uh, a service that we find immensely helpful. I think the
jail, as I've talked to them, finds immensely helpful to be able to condense those needs to one place. Those requests are still going to be made of someone. Um, and we know the jailers don't really have the capacity to handle that. Um, and yeah, so there's without that role.
And as some of you know, Katie um, has resigned. Her last day is Thursday. So we will find out very quickly what that feels like to not have um that central hub. >> Did you say she >> she's resigning? >> Yes. >> Oh, okay. >> Um yeah. So there's she she served as
the hub for all county resources as well. So she was the one who could interface with u the behavioral health funding um and uh applying for insurance and things like that. She could work with county staff to be able to do that. Now, county staff will have to go over to the jail to meet with inmates to help
u make that happen. Namely, for things like substance abuse treatment when it's court ordered. So, it's not something that's just an inmate requesting it because they would like to do it. Uh but often it is a condition of their release. So, it it needs to be done um by someone. So, at at this point without
her role, it will have to fall to jail staff and county staff. So a short answer was if we had a full jail, we would need more social workers. You're saying? >> Yes. Or we would not be able to have any sort of the level of service that we currently have. Yeah. >> Well, let's not talk about increasing
jail population. >> We built a big jail in my opinion. We built too big of a jail and it's again, if you watch the the the roster, it luckily it stays about 16 to 20. Maybe it bumps up over the weekend a little bit, but it it's it's held there. And so
my question and public question is are we overstaffed? Are we, you know, are we spending more on it than we anticipated with those kind of numbers? Because it was all predicated on having more unfortunately predicated on having more prisoners. But that's not your Yeah. You
don't want I I it's a it's a comment I get from the public all the time also as as you all probably do. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. So a few of our uh numbers from this is just um up through quarter three. So the end of September just for this year. Um
so 304 people were met with and this was offered this is the program not just the jail social worker. Um and uh were offered R plus and either declined or were disqualified. A lot of those people are um not Winona County residents. So that's the reason that they were disqualified. Um 92 accepted applicants
and just for reference that same period last year was only 60. So we are seeing an uptick overall. Um 66 from the jail and 26 from custody outside of custody. So about 75 from the jail, 25% out. Um 55 people then engaged with services with um Hayoth Valley case managers. Um
and 119 funding requests were approved and we have 22 graduates. Just one other number that's um is current as of now too. We have 21 people on the wait list and that is the first time that we have had a wait list um for the program since
I took over a year ago. Um so the next slide here is talks a little bit about the outcomes um for our graduates. Um and this is over a full year. Uh so a little different than the last slide. So this would be Q4 um of
last year and then up through Q3 of this year. Um so you can read through those stats. Uh but some pretty remarkable numbers for folks um leaving the program um in terms of health insurance uh and compliance with probation and parole,
housing, income, identification um treatment and and that one I just want to highlight this is not um just who entered treatment but they were continuing treatment or had completed treatment. Uh but that continuing beyond graduation um I think is something we
can really be proud about also. Um and and similar with that mental health treatment beyond graduation. So this next slide talking a little bit about that return on investment. I know that's incredibly important to all of us um to make sure that the money that we're spending is um a good use of those
dollars. Uh so that national research is showing uh the range programs have a return on investment of about $3 to $7 per dollar spent. It's a pretty big range. Um I I realize it's also really difficult to compare our program to other programs because as I said that
typical re-entry program is really only looking at folks who are coming from incarceration um where we really are are broadening it as and and using it more as a prevention measure as well. So our ROI is likely much higher than that um because of how robust it is.
Um and during that last uh federal grant period uh we had a 15% recidivism rate. that was uh returned to um custody with new charges. Um and just to give a sense of recetivism rapes in Minnesota is about 40% um and about 70% nationwide.
So a pretty pretty great um numbers there. Um and just as a reminder that lower recidivism rate really u indicates that lower cost to the justice system as well as increased public safety. Um, and that 80% employment rate from that
previous slide means more tax uh generated by the county. I wish I had um data uh like that ROI uh for Winona County specifically, but um that would cost us a lot of money to try and figure that out. Um and we just don't even have the data to look at it.
But uh it's something that I'm trying to always keep in mind how we can make sure that um we are showing that value to you all. Generally, I just want to, you know, emphasize um how much value this is getting uh based on the cost that it is currently counting uh the county.
Um because this is the first year that the county has covered the jail social worker role, I wanted to give some specific um numbers on that. Um again, just sort of an overview of uh that role, meets with every person booked into custody and creating a customized
uh re-entry per plan for um those individuals. Um and that's ongoing while they're in custody. So whether or not they are there pre-trial or in sentencing, she they have access um to meet with um that person in an ongoing way. Um she's applying for that behavioral health funding which used to
be called RO 25. Um again that is um for any person desiring treatment but also for that court ordered treatment um and signing up for health insurance community uh referrals to other community resources. Um and then um as you may u be aware there's a new
statemandated uh discharge re-entry plan for any person who's been in custody for 90 days or more. Um there's still some details being worked out about that but it does look like that will be largely falling on the child social worker. Um and then just some numbers specific
to her. So, um Katie met with uh 377 unique individuals, opened 460 cases, uh 79 referrals for that behavioral health funding and 69 referrals for mental health evaluations for Highwaka Valley. >> But that's just for three quarters of the year.
>> Yes. >> How do we get up to so many people when we don't have that many people in jail on an ongoing basis? Is it times they've met with them? >> That that shows you how much churn there is. So there may not be a lot of total people at any one given time in custody, but it tells you how many people are in
and out. Yeah. >> And that also includes people who are not yet in the in in the in the criminal justice. Not not there. It's not just jail inmates. >> This is Yeah. Just because this is the jail social worker. So she is really only meeting with people in custody.
Yeah. Although I will just say as an anecdote at this program that I went to in September, we got to tour the um Las Vegas County Jail and their jail administrator um called it the that people have access to this jail social worker staff because they have six of
them. Um if they come in the front door, if they come through the side door, so the side door being that they're being booked in. Um so he wanted to make those uh services available to anyone in the county and not have to um be booked into custody to have them. understanding how much value it was um bringing in. So in
that case, you know, maybe someday it would be something we could look at. >> Made a comment though, something about having to live in Winona County. So we have criminals that don't live in Winona County. So are they provided these services or no, this is just Winona County resident?
>> They have access to the jail social worker regarding uh regardless of their residency. The RAP plus program is only for Rona County residents. >> How do they establish residency? um >> say they're home, they don't have places to go.
>> So yeah. Yeah. If they if they're homeless, they we ask them to whether or not how long they have been residing with in Winona County. Um but yeah, we it's a it's a bit of trusting and that I would say that the the questions on that are few and far between though. Most of
these people are known in the community, >> but if she meets with everybody booked and they're not living that they're not living in Winona County, then that ends. >> They would not be offered the WAP Plus program, but they would have access to her while they're in custody. Okay.
>> Yeah. >> Not doubting, you know, the help that this product is, but is is the 15% just is that just based on graduates or is that the whole number of people? Yeah, it is graduates. >> Just the graduates.
>> Yeah. In doing research about how to look at that return on investment, there's a lot of folks really cautioning um that a lot of that investment is going to be coming from people who aren't necessarily successful graduates because we know any amount of services
we're able to connect with people, they are getting some value, right? We know it takes the average of accessing substance abuse treatment usually seven times before someone's successful. So, if we've helped one time in that, it takes one off of the future times that it takes to get them there. >> When you looked at the comparative
numbers at 40 and 70%, was that kind of skewed in favor because they're looking at anybody that's in jail or we are we comparing apples to apples? I'm just trying. Seems like a pretty big difference there. >> Yes, you're right. So, the the 40 and the um 70% numbers are compared to
people who have not had access to a re-entry program. If we looked at ours and said we had 400 people have access and the amount of, you know, that would increase our number significantly from 15%. Correct. >> For our general county's recidivism rate, >> right?
>> Yes. Comparative aspect, >> our number would be up significantly from 15%. >> Right. >> Right. When they look at that. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I just do we have a number with other programs that you reduce you know
to to really put this in >> I would love that number >> right so I mean if we did the math on ours what would a true number be >> to compare it against >> to put it in the same statistic as 40 and 70 >> it is a dream of mine to be able to come to you with that number because I would
love it >> like on our math like if we had 400 people and how many people you know the the recitive rate based on the total amount of people, not just the graduates. >> Oh, I see what you're asking. Okay. Yes. Um, >> that would be more comparative to the 40 and 70. Correct.
>> Have you ever looked at that? >> I think I think what you're getting >> uh Trish is the one who helps out with a lot of data questions. Yeah. Yeah. >> Because that would be a fair comparison. >> I think what you're getting confused about is you look at the the large number, those are people that aren't even they're she's giving them services,
>> right? >> And even if it's not rap. So that the 15% >> is just who's graduated >> is from people that are in our program, >> the graduates, right? >> So if you if you if you look at that >> um
any low any low number of recidivism is great. >> Yeah. Um, not to mention that the people that she that whole big huge number that the jail social worker is giving resources to, we don't really have any way to collect data on that.
That that's a big we people have been trying to do that forever. We've talked about that in CJCC. I track, but there's no way to pull the numbers. We need to have some kind of system to do that. And to get numbers like that costs money,
you know. So maybe that justice management institute could help you. >> I I do think the data will be one of the things that they talked about. >> I mean just just on simple division if there was 400 people x amount recline you know x amount didn't do it a certain
amount did do it. So out of the total number we could we could figure out it just we'd have to divide that in and that would be more reflective on the 40 and 70. Is that correct? like what the total percent of people that are incarcerated to some degree whether it's long-term or overnight and then how many
people >> Yeah. >> Y >> you know >> but I think something to point out here is you know um Commissioner Ward was speaking about the jail numbers being down all of a sudden the jail numbers are down. This is a good example of
this. This program could very well be why they're down. You know, without the jail so social worker streamlining, getting all of that stuff going. We're about to see what's going to happen because I've been here for about eight and a half years. I've been doing
started as a care program, then the RAP program, NENRAP Plus, and I've seen the different ways that the system has changed with getting people funding. Uh we used to have somebody that came over to the jail to do rule 25s. It was one
person and if somebody wanted to get set up with treatment and funding, they had to call over here and wait for her to come over there. And so, of course, there's people backed up waiting to get get treatment lined up, to get the
funding lined up. Um, having that social worker position in the jail is a direct access to the funding piece over here to streamline all that, get that going. having one person dedicated to not only do that, but set up um get get those
assessments sent where they need to go um and then coordinate appointments in the jail. That's all things that this position has shown to really get people where they need to be quicker. And so I think
we're about to see what's going to happen if we don't have a jail social worker anymore. And in fact, tomorrow we have to have a meeting um to figure out what we're going to do in the meantime um to to make sure people aren't stuck in the jail waiting to get set up for for treatment.
>> I guess I guess where I was going with this is to prove the to prove the the legitimacy of the program. If you knew your total rate of recent it's a different word recentism there we go offenders >> um repeat offenders whatever you want to
call >> the we would need the comparison so I'll give you an example if the total rate of all the inmates so let's say we had 400 inmates was 17%. and we have a program that we're paying big money for and we only drop it by two, I would say, boy, we're probably
not doing much, right? But if the total rate was 60 or 70%, like we see in the Nash 40 to 70% on national average and you're saying the people that do graduate, we can drop that to 17 and that is a reflection of a percentage of the total people that are put through
the system, meaning that the cost savings to the taxpayer. say I'm trying to justify the cost but we have to have the number with we have to have the number without and then we have to compare that on a percentage basis to say hey we've reduced it overall by XYZ%
right so if we have 70% offenders our portion is 25% of that 400 that we've affected and we reduce that down to 15 there's a percentage of the percentage and then you can calculate the cost savings to the community and we say hey look at this guys and that's how we're
going to come up with >> this is a great program to fund. >> Yeah. >> Do you see where I'm going with that? I do. >> That's exactly what I'm trying to do here. And if those numbers work, >> congratulations. You know, if they're off, we need to look at the program and say, "Okay, guys, what can we do to do a better job? How do we continue to fund
it? Is there something we're missing? And how do we sell it to the taxpayer that says, "Hey, this is good for the community." So, that's what I'm trying to establish. >> Yeah. And and >> I appreciate that. like we were talking about, we might be able to get you some of those numbers once we are able to collaborate with um and put some of the
data that I've been collecting >> just for the but just for the county >> into Yeah. >> just for the county. Yeah. And then we could compare to the state and national averages and you know and say hey this is how we fall and you see where I'm going. >> Yep. Yep. And yeah, just as for
reference, um you all approved a grant that I submitted to the office of justice programs from um the state uh in July. I should be hearing by the end of the week. I really wished I had an answer for you today on that. Uh but in that uh request was um uh money to help
develop that system so that we can pull that data um a little bit more easily so that we can prove that value even more easily. right now is a lot of manual data between Trish and I to try and come up with any of these numbers. Um and then just one more note, I don't
think I um said explicitly before. So the reason I'm giving this information on the jail social worker um in particular is because that position does uh fall as a line item under the rep plus uh program. Although as we are talking about her impact um of that role
is seen throughout the jail. It's and it's not just for a rap plus. Um so that uh just that tie in case I know it's a little confusing that we're moving back and forth between numbers for those two things. Um I think we've gone through a lot of this but uh just one thing I'll
call out there. Um for uh 18 other counties, so that would be the Micah counties plus metro counties um 17 have a jail social worker similar role. So this is uh by no means I know you said you didn't like uh being leading new territory earlier. Uh we are not here we
are um just about the status quo. Um and I'll just mention that gel social worker position um is critical for maintaining that ROI that we are currently seeing um and just not only just for graduates but that smooth continuation of care um and that person centered approach for
specifically for mental health and substance abuse treatment. Um, thank you to you and all the staff that work on the program. This is a great example of how it's much wiser to build a fence at the top of a cliff than the same usually goes in a hospital at
the bottom of the cliff. But I would add it's wiser to build a fence at the top of a cliff versus a hospital or a jail at the bottom of it. Now, some of people are falling or have fallen and they're in jail, but thank you for the work that all of you do on this program and I know it's difficult and it would be nice to
have that information to talk to demonstrate the ROI to to explain. >> I think we need to monetize it. >> Yep. Yeah, definitely. Um, but thank you for all the work that each and one of you do because this is especially when you begin to collaborate with partners like Hayawatha Valley mental health and you start moving people and I think what
Commissioner Ward was asking earlier is that people don't need um to take part in this, right? It's only people aren't >> program. So you can't force someone to go to chemical addiction treatment or mental health unless they want to do it. So but thank you to all of you for the work that you guys do.
>> Mr. Alson, >> I just think the future of this program is going to come down to the monetization and really being able to show the true cost savings. And we realize it's a fluctuation, but it's a hard sell to the public because not everybody understands it. And so it's
oftentimes one of the easiest things to get rid of. >> So for the future of the program, if it truly is a taxpayer savings, figure out how to monetize it. Do the math, put the nuts and bolts, and say, "Here's where it's at." I'm a nuts and bolts sort of guy. I may not be in here forever, but
if it's if there's value to it, I would encourage that. >> Yeah, I would encourage you to be asking those questions. I would want those questions answered if I were in your successful. >> But it can't be funding. It can't be funded totally on property tax dollars. You made a comment here. Uh 80%
employment rate for graduates, more tax generated by the county. Well, we don't work on income tax. I mean, it it's great. It's good. They got jobs and they're paying rents and everything else, but the county works on property tax. We don't work on income income variables, >> but employment can equal home ownership
and things like that. But yes, >> but I mean, and as I said earlier, we're not the justice system. There's higher levels, federal and state, that need skin in the game. We can't assume their responsibilities is my point is that we can have some skin in the game, but it can't be all on
local property tax because you said 18 do, 69 other counties don't. And you picked out 18 counties, Micah, that's that's your bigger metropolitan uh bigger populated um with bigger tax bases and such. So, the small counties,
>> not necessarily. There are some that are >> well I'm sure some that do. I just didn't have the time to go I was first you called all of these >> as as a general rule but there's 69 counties that don't have it. >> It's just um an update. There's no >> Yeah, there's no action required. >> Right.
>> You're not done though. >> No, she's not done. >> Well, I know I've taken up a lot of your time, but yeah. So, I'll finish up quickly here. Yeah. So, just uh a testimonial there from Katherine Mani who's um a probation agent um and a real champion of the program. She um repres
uh clients and just something I'll uh highlight from that um often resources in Winona County are sparse especially regarding mental health and homelessness. This program is working to address both. I've watched and continue to see the RAP plus program positively influence lives and help individuals work towards stabilization related to
all the mentioned struggles. The more people we stabilize, the better off our entire community is. Couldn't agree more. Um and then there's a very long note from Karen Haidider because she wanted to be here but couldn't. And the part I will highlight of that um is handinhand with case management comes
the financial component of RASP plus that has been a lifesaver for our clients time and time again. Numerous times RAP plus has saved a client of mine let alone others in the RAP plus program from homelessness. A first month's rent payment or payment when a client is in between jobs has stabilize them to the point where they can actually work on their other priorities.
Treatment, mental health, recovery. Job placement is at an all-time high for treatment court since rep plus began. And I think that's a correlation rather than coincidence. Our clients have stable homes to return to, bus passes for transportation, and shoes on their feet so they can put their best foot forward in securing employment. After all, that's what this community wants
from clients in the criminal justice system is to recuperate, repair, recover. A financial boost from Reps has been made the difference in propelling clients forward in the community uh that and become community members they have long desired to be but couldn't get there alone.
Um, and I I wanted to uh bring up um our other case managers for other testimonials, but unfortunately we didn't get anybody to agree uh to telling their stories publicly here. But um I just want to emphasize how much this program u makes Winona County a better place to live by increasing
public safety um and decreasing the burden costs on the justice system. Um and I appreciate your time. Thank you for listening. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Tell them next time we don't bite, they can come. There were there were two folks last year, wasn't there? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, we had a couple. We've had
>> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, moving on to 8.2. Receive update from recorders department. Bob, good evening. >> Good evening, commissioners. >> Bob, you just keep real estate. You just
keep >> Well, and moving things. >> I'll tell you what. I got the message at the last meeting that you want a hard copy. >> Got your paper. >> So, um, John paid for him again. He's delighted to do that. >> Says it's the most important information in Winona County. He's feeling better,
but he's definitely having >> Isn't he the organist? >> Did he have a science tonight? >> Did he have a stroke? >> John for a while. >> Thank you. Did you find your car, please? >> That said that was lost.
>> If it was right on the ground, right in front of us, we we didn't see it. I >> was going to ask what kind of car it was. I could have I could have updated. >> Such hope I get from the chair of the board. She's take the car. >> I could update update. She doesn't really mean it. >> Oh,
>> okay. >> No, I just paid for licenses in the state of Minnesota and that's outrageous what we pay for car plates in the state of Minnesota. >> I just did too. Yeah. Terrible. >> Both smirking. She lives in Wisconsin. It's a lot cheaper. It is.
>> Okay. The uh third quarter of 2025 has passed us by but it uh definitely made marks in the real estate business. We had three months where we saw the average
price of a home and also the number of homes during that third quarter both take a jump. Um it was positive in the fact that we had some more homes become available and in the three months I'm going to point
out one of them to you especially July we had a number of homes that became available in the west part of Winona um in the area of west Broadway um kind of uh just before you get to the quick trip
in that greater area there were four or five and those buyers were just ecstatic. There have not been prices in that range for buyers for some time and they uh they were delighted and it also
gave us a more realistic overview of the homes that sold and the difference prices were got hung up a couple of months. It was really on the high end and that happened again in this last quarter and I'll point that out to you. But um let's see. We had 162 homes that
sold during July, August, and September. And that compared to 147 during the three months just prior to that. So it was 11% increase. And in today's market, 11% that's a pretty good increase. At
the end of September, the average price was 318,000. A month earlier, the end of August, it was 299. And between those two months, that was a 12% increase. In September,
during um both the second and third quarters, the highest number of sales were in the 200 to 250,000 price range. During the second quarter, there were 30 sales and then in the uh
third quarter, there were 33. All right, this 200 to 250 is a number that we want to look at pretty closely. I did a program uh for the learning club a couple weeks ago and I had one of the office managers, one of
the real estate offices come and share some information from the standpoint of a real estate person. And this party was especially knowledgeable uh because that party works in three different areas of southeast Minnesota. So she kind of
concentrated on Winona but gave a little overview of the three. She said uh when questioned by some of the people there, what what really is the cost of a home for a firsttime buyer or a person starting out? And she said 300,000 maybe
a little more. And that question keeps coming up and I always suggest to people that they talk to a realtor. We can tell you what the prices are when they're recorded, but we don't speculate on what they might be out in the market. I think that's pretty it can there's so many
variables. You need your realtor and that's how you can work through that. But put your shoes on. For a person that is buying a starter home or trying to get a home on the lower end in Winona,
250,000, I can say it's better than 300,000. And I'm glad to see that at least a small group of people were able to buy. But Bob, does a $250,000 home in Winona need a new roof and a new heater and air conditioning and siding and windows and
is it is it really a truly moveinready home when you start in that low range? >> And and I asked that question about the the four homes and I didn't didn't pull all the information and analyze it, but the thought was that probably there is a
little updating needed. You know, this we're being kind when we say a little. >> I take that to mean where you want to put your emphasis. Maybe you can get by in the home the way it is for a while. >> Sure. >> Um I did talk to one party that was trying to buy on the far east side of
Winona and she had the dollars needed, but she said what it was going to take to make the home livable she did not have. and that and and I don't mean they're all that way, but >> I talk there's a lot of people I talk to
during each week. Some are at our office, some are stopping on the street and they've got a question or they said, "Hey, I just had a chance. You know, I got my offer in." She said, "You know, I'm waiting." One one lady one day told me she had her fingers crossed. So, it it's out there. It's something we're
living with. And um I show an interest to all people. I want them to get a home and it and I really want them to do well. and that is a challenge in Winona County. All right, so that's that's a little bit there. Let me just uh make another comment or two. Um during the
third quarter, we had 29 sales over 400,000. That's that's pretty strong on that number. Um here's the top three. 790,000 for a home and some acreage on Prairie Island. 775,000
uh bought a home in Pleasant Valley, nice home. um some brick and some wooded area. And then in East Burns Valley, there was a nice home that sold for 710,000. Uh during
I think the final month, um shows on our second page here where we've got all of the listings month by month and then the price ranges. It looks like um 12 of them over 400,000 in September. And that would be the
that'd be the high number for for all the months of of the year through September. All right. After that, we kind of looked at the numbers and with that really good July that we had um we continue to be just a little bit ahead of uh 24
410 and 25 and 404 homes and 24. And even though it's just a few, we're ahead. and and that that's a very positive place to be. All right, our rural land sales, we talked about that a little bit last quarter. Um we've got um
28 sales um as of the third quarter. Uh during the third quarter, we added 12 and uh three of the 12 had buildings. And also in that number, 11 of the 12
third quarter buyers had a Winona County mailing address. And we're going to talk some more about that during um the update I'm doing for you. But that's something that is being asked and that was that was a terrific answer to see
that that usually not quite that high. Usually a little bit less than that. But anyway, in that particular group, 11 of 12, that's very positive. Uh there there was a mixture of of sales. We talked a little bit about a high-end one that
came in just as I was talking to uh you at the last quarter. Um high sale um 1.9 million paid for 159 acres in Hillsdale Township. It brought the um acreage
there per acre to 12,000. Um commercial sales, we really added during the last quarter and um we had 14 more sales. There's a couple of them that were um really of interest to a lot
of people and I'm going to say one of them was the Blackhorse property. Um there's many people that have really fond memories of feeding there, doing some volleyball, uh just being near the river, and it's been a very special place to us, and many people are are,
you know, hoping that it will be able to return to to the way it was. It was sold by the uh Kavalowski family to Landon Properties and the price on it was 598,000. I did hear a presentation on the plans,
but it was right before the sale, so not sure if they've changed, but at that point, they were hoping to do some and keep working on it and eventually get it back. And that sounded pretty positive. All right, there were a couple other things I mentioned. The um former
Freedom Gas Station on Mano Avenue sold um priced there at 336,000. And then um to look at the group of sales, the 30, it was interesting to see that there were three restaurants, three
apartment buildings, and three general retail. So, they're spread out. And it tells us that there is definitely buyer interest in all the properties, no matter what they are. >> Rob, can I stop you and ask a question? >> Sure.
>> I want to back up a bullet point. I get asked every so often and I have to defer that this is not a county issue. It's a city. It's not even a city issue, but it says the parking lot at Fifth in Winona near the Interstate Bridge was sold by Fastenol to River Tides for $3.5
million. Can you give me a quick summary of what's going on there so I can help because I'd refer people to the city or refer people to the port authorities. That's that's private property now. This these are all private transfers. It's a parking lot >> or is that too different?
>> There there have been quite a number of questions. Another commissioner has asked and I made a couple of calls and I've not received anything back >> and also at a couple of the public presentations that were done and we had the best attendance in the last two
years. It's way up rather than down >> um same kind of questions asked. >> That's the former Y is that's actually the YMCA one, isn't it? The one one one. It's not this one under the bridge. It's one over. Yes. So, you don't know the answer yet? >> Not not yet.
>> And we'll see what's what's being offered. >> I do know with the there we do know that there is some inter relationship with all the properties and the art music um center. >> Gotcha. And I do know that there was a
mailing uh the last couple of weeks for people to become involved and make a donation to help with the the expenses that remain for the um art and music center. >> Okay. You don't know. Do you the Okay. If you
find out, please. >> Yes. >> I get I get asked >> Thank you. >> He's buying it. >> Yeah. on the um on the handout, the second page um shows you the numbers um month by month and then through the price
ranges. And it's a real real easy reference to go back a year or two and kind of see what was happening then. And you know, like many of the people that look at it say, "Oh, if I could only be back in March of, you know, 2023." And you know, it brings back those kind
of memories, too. >> Yep. >> But the information is there. want to mention that in the three months I've given you the spreadsheets and 68 sales in July, it it really was it was a big month. It was our biggest
of the year and not by just a couple but by several. And everyone was thrilled to see that we just didn't have many places that were buyable um coming up on the market or the other thing that was happening is there'd be several people
and then the prices were going up. We came out with some here that that met the budget of some people and we're really thrilled about that. And that gives you um more information if you want to look at location um you know what what the actual sale
price was and uh you know that might give you a little bit more um information background. Then um August again that had the quite a number of high-end homes on it. So that made history that month and September
um the highest number of high-end months for that particular month. So that was I guess in our record of 25 at this point pretty historical. That's for Winona. It's pretty significant number of homes on the high end. All right. I don't want
to get too long here on the rural land sales. The last quarter we had 12 and I mentioned about uh you know 11 of the 12 having Winona County mailing addresses. Only add to it that we had a couple of
sales that um were kind of some wooded or hillside and prices there were 66 to 71 72. Um we're not getting a big number and it doesn't give you a lot to work with for the uh people that are in the appraisal business.
All right, I mentioned about the commercial sales. So, the next page is 262. And this one, I'm really, really proud to bring you this information tonight. It started as a request from a couple of
the commissioners, but over the last two months, there have been numerous requests from the public. We have the information, but the way it's assembled, it just takes us a little bit of time to pull it forward. And really the question was who are the owners of the land in
Winona County? And I was told that at our um planning department uh open house uh is that right? >> Um there was mention of Houston County and maybe beyond 50% of them being um
out of county uh land owners. Um so here's what we did. Um, we we thought we needed to take a reasonable number of years. Otherwise, there's got to be a double check. Some could be sold and then that would skew the numbers that I'm giving you. I think six is a
reasonable number of years to work with. We've got good documentation in front of us. Basically, looking at those list, we can almost tell if there's been a sale. We're a little bit short on the end of the year here for 2025, but keeping that in mind for what I'm going to call six
acres, a little bit short. 288 sales were listed on our land uh sales. So, we compiled them and put them together. 189 um land only. Then we had land and buildings uh 99.
And so when we looked at it, we looked at those that were 100 acres or more and then we looked at 100 less than 100 acres. The 100 and more there's 71 and we made our determination by using
mailing addresses within Winona County. And that that is probably the the best that we can do for determining the location of the owner of the property. 47% um or excuse me 47 or 66%
were in Winona County. That's the 71 with 100 acres or more. And we dropped down to the 100 acres or less and um that one we didn't do quite as well on. We had um
33% that had mailing addresses um outside of Winona County. So was 24 parties. Um certainly in the in the scope of this uh we we had a much almost double the number um that had a mailing
address in Winona County. So when you look at the whole picture, it's still pretty positive. Then we went to the um the sales that were under 100 acres uh 217 and and I just I didn't give you that information
correctly. It was the balance of those that were over 100 acres. There were 24 poor that had an address that was outside of Winona County. Uh 34% almost and that brought us uh pretty
close to 100%. So it it's positive to see that that 66% had an address within Winona County when we went to those that are under 100 acres. And keep in mind when you get into this group, it's it's often that
there's a few acres in the rural area with the property. It's not just a house like you usually see in town. So we're we're just saying that they have some acreage under 100. And in that case, um there there were within Winona County
161 or 74%. those that had mailing addresses outside of Winona County, um 66 uh 56 and that would be 26%. And again, keep in mind that that can
represent a number of of different acreages along with the building. Um we got you tallied earlier how many had buildings, how many didn't, but the last two columns here are certainly ones to take a look at. It's been some time
since we probably had some numbers like this and um for the board to look at, but the total acres sold 21,952 and the total price paid 157,355,595. And that that's pretty I think that's
pretty significant number. >> Until I actually saw the numbers and saw that in print, I I wouldn't have guessed that it was quite that high. A little bit less than that. >> Bob, how many acres in the county? 47. >> Off the top of my head, I I need to
check it. >> Um, we have an idea on that total acres of corn. It'd be interesting to know the total number of acres in one county. And then what do we have it on the tax rolls for? Yes. 491.
>> 491. Okay. You Googled. >> Wait, no, wait, that's not right. >> 47,000. >> You got it. 47,000. >> 47,000. >> And what's our tax assessor have that valued at? >> Does it say what it's what what we have
it at? >> No, you could get that from that. Um, >> yeah. It's out there. Bigger this. >> Oh, no. We have it like I was saying was 47, but >> Madam Chair, >> I knew it was in the
>> Here's the backup. And I didn't print this reach commissioners, but you want to pass around and take a quick look. You can just see. >> Um, it's interesting to see all the addresses that are there. >> Oh, okay. Sure. >> And I can email that or we can get a hard copy for you, whatever you'd like
to. >> Thank you, Bob. This is very interesting. Yep. Thanks. >> And I thought you could take a check on that and if if you're interested, we'll either email it out or get you a hard copy, whatever you'd like. >> And I had a county commissioner from Houston take issue with that 50% is
owned by he questioned that. We didn't check into it, but he questioned >> about 26 or 260. >> That was a broad statement about Houston County. >> That came up and I were at a compet. >> Yeah. And somebody said that. Well, I'd be a statistic because I live in Winona
County, but I own land in Houston. >> I'm part of that. Yeah. Or land owner. Y >> and look look closely at both of those percentages. The the first one I mixed it up a little bit and I'm I'm sorry on that. Uh the numbers that are there are accurate. They were gone over several
times. All right. Just one thing real quickly. You've asked me several times to keep you posted on the vital records. Uh there is a a sheet in the handout. Uh we've got presently 185 marriages. It would look like, you know, maybe we're
we're just down just a little bit. Uh but the interesting thing that happened was for I think for the only time in in working as the county recorder during COVID, I got a memo from the federal government that we should expect fewer
marriages during CO. And I thought, well, that could work either way. some people are, you know, they're going to want to be taking care of each other and maybe, you know, they may decide to get married. Well, anyway, the number of marriages didn't go up, it dropped. So now in 23 and 24, we started getting
back to some realistic numbers and 25, we're just a little bit behind that. And there's a lot that can still happen in the year. Uh the number of births, and those are are fully Winona County births, 110 and the deaths is 233. That's behind just a little bit, but
we're really happy when we can report that. Just want to keep our residents with us. >> All right, this is a big one. >> The land notification and I I was at Lakeville today for a
six-hour program, a big significant part of it devoted to this and some other topics. And I learned that Trymen, who is the uh software company that we work with, is now got the most county accounts in Minnesota for land
notification. And I think that's very positive. I like being part of the one of the bigger groups and they are I think just putting a lot a lot of effort into it. So what does land notification do? Why are we doing it?
For one thing, um there is forgery and fraud across the United States, but we've all heard the headlines and we've looked at it, the numbers of cases in Chicago. And I mention Chicago because we have a
significant population of of students in Winona County that are from the Chicago area. And in addition to that, we have a lot of former graduates of Winona State and St. Aries that live in the Chicago area. So back and forth. Um there's
people here that are familiar with Chicago, there's people there familiar with us. It's um it's just one that I think a lot of play a lot of people are taking a look at. Um how does the Let me just say that the
notification is an alert. It warns property owners when there are recordings in our office on your personal name or your business. >> And each time an alert is triggered, an
email or a text is sent providing information including the date and the type of document. And you have that. And if you've not done something like that, you need to start following up. And there's a number of ways you can do
that. If there's if if we really have a problem going and we can determine that immediately, the Winona County Sheriff by statute is the party to contact. We can help you. We can give you information. We can verify documents.
All right. Land notification alerts. They're free. They're free in all the counties that are doing them. Um we are wanting to help property owners. Once you are signed up, you may create multiple alerts as needed. You can name
your spouse, a parent, a grandparent. Um, you will only receive an email or a text. It isn't out there for everything imaginable. It is being um conducted on those those two uh manners with email or
with a text. And when your alert information matches a new document recorded at the county recorder office, you're going to get an alert and you'll get an alert if something doesn't match and it's coming in your name and that'll
come from us. You must and it it it is all computerized, but our people are are watching at the same time and and we have people that are very knowledgeable in the business. And I want to say the overnight television that goes on on
just about all the channels, having people throwing documents on a recorder's office and they get recorded, they're never looked at. I assure you that is not the case in Winona County. And because we have statute and we have special taxes, each document has to be
looked at by the recorder and by the auditor treasurer. And then at the end of processing, there's a second look by the recorder's office. That's three for sure. And I'm not talking about a long, you know, bunch of time being involved. There's certain key things that we're
looking for. And absolutely those looks take place. I don't the whole thing overnight. Somebody's trying to make some business there and it's it's not what's needed in Winona County. All right. Why should I sign up? Mortgage and real estate fraud. It's growing. We
know that. If an illegal issue occurs in your name on your record, it could be related to your property and it could be someone that's trying to make financial gain or acquire your
assets. And if that happens, uh, and you've signed up with us, you're going to be alerted and you're going to have the contact from us and you can follow up with the authorities at that point. And again, um, land notification,
the software was upgraded about three months ago. We went through a long process of working with the upgraded software and I've been complimented for doing that. Some of the counties were working with the old trying to work through the new and they said that
became a real hassle. So, it took us a little bit longer, but we we worked with one software and put all our time into it, and that's the latest available. And I thank you for all this time tonight. Um, we just had a we had a lot going here, and some of the questions
that that I tried to address tonight were from the county board. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Bob. >> Thank you. >> Okay. 8.3 approve decline Apple Blossom Park Outdoor Recreation Grant. I thought we
this a different action than last meeting. >> Good evening. Um yeah, this dates this dates back to April uh 22nd when um we had brought the bids for the Apple Blossom outdoor grant forward. Uh at the
time the decision on the grant was tabled for 6 months. So uh at this point it's just formal formally we would need it removed from the table. The DNR has asked us to formally accept or decline the grant. Uh so we just need board
action on it. >> You have to say whether you're accepting or declining. >> The staff recommendation is to define it. Correct. >> At this point it would be difficult to to to >> build the pavilion. >> Yeah. I'll second the motion. >> Okay. So, we have a motion by Commissioner Eline, second by
Commissioner Vegley to decline the what the DNR >> outdoor recreation. >> All those in favor say I. >> I post nay. >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you, Ross. >> Um then 8.4 appoint 2026 AMC delegates.
Think that is filled out in the chart. Is anybody wanting to move or change? >> I'll move to approve the the recommendations as listed on page 266, unless someone wants to. >> Madame Chair, if I may. >> Yes.
>> Um, if I could just note that we are recommending to add Jill Schaffer as the Health and Human Services Director representative uh on page 267. So, if the board would also accept that, please. >> Yes. Um
well that I don't have a problem with that but if both Commissioner Meyer and Jill I think each county only gets one vote. So >> voting yes but I think she could be noted as the contact you know for that. >> We just have to direct her to Yeah. We
only get one one vote. Okay. >> All right. Uh so we have a motion by Commissioner Vaguely seconded by >> Do we have a second yet? >> No. Okay. Second by Commissioner Meyer to approve the appointmentments
according to staff recommendation. Any further discussion? >> All those in favor say I. >> I. Nay. Okay. Approved. >> All right. Then moving into Commissioner Vaguely. You had the announcements and requests before action. >> Um I needed to double check this with
Thank you. Yes. Um with um administrator Holty. So our next meeting is not on a Tuesday. It's on a Wednesday. Okay. So, because Tuesday falls on Veterans Day, right? >> So, I needed when I was looking at I had in sub plans, etc. So, this is for the
public and for anybody else who might be interested. It's a reminder the next time we meet in the morning. It'll be on a Wednesday and not a Tuesday because of Veterans Day. Um, >> I didn't have it. So, we're meeting the 12th. >> Yep. >> Okay. I >> I needed to change my
>> Thank you for calling it out. >> Yeah. I don't didn't have that down there. Okay. So, it's on a Wednesday and not a Tuesday. Um, and then I've not talked with anyone about this. Um, I would like to request a future agenda item to consider making some kind of
contribution to the Winona County homeless shelters. Um, and I don't have a specific proposal in mind. The thinking would be is that would not be an increase. It would be um a shuffle from existing funds or a reorganization. And I have some ideas
for that. But um >> I'll give you a second to have a conversation. >> Thank you. And there was a third item, but I think that um I'm going to leave that if I I'm think somebody else might talk about the there was an article in the Saturday Daily News. I just I think commission um
Miss Holty forwarded the article. Thank you for doing that because something that we talked about the health and human services advisory committee as people put on the radar. There's going to be a big increase in need at the local food shops and anybody that s serves free community meals.
>> Right. Uh let's see, Commissioner Eling. >> Um no, a couple things just bringing up again um the April 22nd, September 9th that uh was discussed in the deal uh in the opening comments, I guess, the
public comments. Um where does that fall? What is that? Did that fall, Ed? Why wasn't that brought up? >> Well, I guess the public data request I know um attorney CR sent out a very long detailed, but I don't know if that
technically was adopted as a policy. >> Yeah, I just wanted to follow up on that >> clarification was sent to the whole board in BC to Miss Sonaman explaining the process, the policy, etc. Um, and I didn't hear that the board still
wanted it brought back. You wanted an understanding of the process and did we have a policy? >> Um, that was pertaining to the April 22nd. >> Yeah. The data >> request. Yep. >> Um, and then uh my notes on the
committee um citizen finance committee is that we were going to wait until there was a finance director on board. >> Right. Um if I misunderstood, I apologize, but that's what my note said. >> Yeah, I I would agree with the um both.
Now, but the public data um was that shared with the I remember getting the email, but did >> does the public know was it posted anywhere? See, that's where people that are requesting public data need to know the process. So, we put it in a
>> process is in the policy. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it's it's in the front. >> But where's the Where do they find it? On the website. Pardon me. >> Website. >> Yeah, it's on the website. >> How I mean that website is not user friendly. >> It's used to be on the front. I think the the you know to make a a data practices request.
>> I don't know. Is it? I don't use that. That website is not Commissioner Meyer to take a peek at the policies >> and the policies are there. >> Front. >> Yeah. >> Very front page. I I guess I haven't ever looked for it, but >> that that's part of the question is
somebody from the public know what the process is. >> And if we >> Yeah, but even if they go under how do I >> how do I how do I search engine >> public records request? >> Okay, it is there then. Okay. And that is the updated
>> policy >> with Mr. CR. >> Okay. I guess part of the issue is did we ever ac I mean that's his opinion that's a lawyer's opinion but did we accept it as a policy of the board and I don't think we did >> well but there's a the policy is really
what the the data practices office and you adopted it years ago >> we're we're supposed to review it every August I think but we we haven't done that >> see I I think that's where the issue is that the board never really took action on it I think that's part of their concern >> it hardly changes except for the new
laws that come in to say what can and can't be released. So, but >> I can resend the email, but I believe it also had the policies attached to it. >> Okay. And again, that would be in that document on the website. >> The policies
>> the policies not are not on that. That is the actual request. So, the portal for you to make a request. >> Okay. So, I think the citizen is wondering what is the policy? So, how do we let the citizenry know what our policy is as far as data?
>> I will look to see if that is actually on the website. >> It is. And I think you have to kind of dig for it if it's not up the front. >> Yeah. And see, that's part of the issue. They want to know what the >> Yeah. >> policy is. Okay. We'll follow up on that. >> The little thing, how do I >> And do we have a fully installed
financial officer? >> November time. >> The 17th is the start date. Right. Then >> and and I can see next uh beginning of the next year putting that in into a priority. Okay. All right. Is that it? >> Uh no, I just Yeah, thank you. I I think
that I guess I'm going to maybe take a little fault on just not bringing that up and sometimes we have to bring things up when we get answers. you know what I mean to public that's a lot of times why I bring things up and pull things because I want public involvement and to hear what we're talking about rather
than just approve something without discussion because it looks just like that we don't discuss things right so um there's that part I want to bring up was just you know we saw it we saw what it's going to cost us and you know this is I think sometimes best intentions um
aren't always fully carried out and and really thought through but we talk about the employee paid leave situation that I mean I I obviously have my fair share of employees but reality of it is is we had to make a decision what percentage of this do we pay as a as a small business
and um now granted in comparison to the county it's it's significantly less but I also can't just go take people's money by law so I have to earn it so the common consensus was this uh it was considered a benefit to my employees and
so thus the only way I could pay for it is to not give them that percentage your raise. In essence, they paid for it all out of their own pocket. And when asked every single one of my employees, I said, "Would you rather have the raise or the potential to maybe
use this?" Every single one of them said, "I would have rather had the race." So, we need to be careful when we're setting policy because it looks good, but honestly, when you go ask real people,
that's how it sets. So, in government, I just it hits home as a business owner because I I felt bad when I have to go to them and say, "I'm sorry, this is forced upon you." And so I just I want to say that when we're making decisions
that we understand they were all very disappointed. >> That's it. >> Great. >> Um couple things. Uh we had our Association of Minnesota Counties regional meeting on Monday and everybody's levy is I think the lowest
levy out of the um is it 11 counties was Wabasha was maybe at 5%. Everybody else is like six uh 5.99 6.5 7.9 county um remarkably 6.8 but you can imagine the tax base that county has and
how much that grows. Um but everybody has very high preliminary levies and the biggest issue of course is our people uh our wages, our benefits, the things like this family paid leave, health insurance. Now interestingly enough uh
we weren't the worst. Reborn County um had like a 43% increase. Now they are going self-insured. Some county >> in their insurance or their levy. >> No, their insurance. >> Thank you. >> But they're going to uh go self-insured
on their health insurance which again uh that'll be interesting to to follow and see where it it goes. Um but that everybody's doing like you know living on less. They're they're calling in um a lot of uh temporary, you know, wage or
hiring freezes, uh trying to manage things with other, you know, entities. Um and a lot of discussion there, but no, nobody's got a real uh nobody can solve the problem yet. I mean, it is a problem. Uh we did have some discussion on our favorite topic here, rifle versus
shotgun. And uh I did get a letter from the Department of Natural Resources uh which was unusually quick because they were supposed to send something out to counties by before May. I think it was March or May and they sent it already. Um and they did there was some
clarification that um if uh we would do our own ordinance then both uh enforcement the county sheriff and the Minnesota Department of Natural Resource Conservation Officers have the have the authority to enforce the provisions, but
it doesn't say they will. And then another thing I I love when they put this in there that uh penalties. A person who violates this ordinance, and this would be if you kept it shotgun, didn't follow the state law. uh shall be punished by the uh fine of up to a thousand thousand dollars imprisonment
or not more than 90 days or both. And I said, "Okay, so they're telling us we got to we deviate from the law, but they're telling I can only find them $1,000. How about if I want $10,000? How about I got to generate some revenue in this county? Who's telling me I got to I can do this, but I can only So, I did
put a call into Senator Grascowski because he's kind of the main uh was the main author here. Are they really telling me I can only, you know, do $1,000? Maybe it needs to be more. I I don't know. But most of the counties, only two have really, nobody's taken action. Uh Steel County, because they're
so flat that they fear bullets will travel from one end of the county to the other. They're probably going to stay shotgun. Um um mower might they're undecided, but nobody else has really made a decision. And surprisingly enough, Olmstead, who was kind of the
culprit of this whole thing, was relatively quiet. They hadn't said what they're going to do, but there is ordinances, you know, you can you can't shoot within 500 feet of a municipality. You can't um something about livestock, too. You can't shoot guns. So, there's a
lot of >> rules and laws already that need to be adhered to versus adding another rule to it. And the big question, too, is DNR, are they going to change their maps? You know, our county has about three different zones and and it it's a complicated mess. Um but there
was uh some discussion and and everybody was quite disappointed in what the um legislature did for us there. And let's see uh remember daylight savings time. We change on sun, Saturday night, Sunday. Um and so be very careful. There
will be a lot of small children getting on buses or getting off buses in the dark. Um, so just everybody be very aware when you see flashing lights or or the flashing lights of the farm equipment. Do not, you know, jeopardize uh people because it'll get dark. It'll
get dark really quick. Now, won't it be dark at 5:00 instead of 6 and such at least in the day morning they'll have some daylight, but it it does it does affect traffic flow and everything, which is which is interesting. And oh, by the way, the AMC people, they were they were really enthralled with our
like four roundabouts in a way in a in a way. I said, "Yeah, take your time, go through them a couple times, get the feel of them because some counties have none, some have a lot, and we have four in a row." Um, one of the things I would like to for um board action or have a presentation is we're hearing a lot about the criminal justice and
everything, but we haven't heard anything how that brand new jail is working. And I've had a lot of people ask me, you know, they they they preached all these programs and activities and you're trying to tell us that our recidivism is right down, but we haven't heard from Steve Buswell or
any of those people how all these programs are working, how the volunteers are working, how the how the quote new jail is working, and citizens are wondering, especially with their tax dollars going up. So, I I would need a second on that to get an update on our jail. >> I'll second it. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Um,
I appreciate that. Uh, anything else? >> Yeah, I Yeah. >> Um, so I want to give an update. >> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yeah, I wanted to give an update on the review of the hazard mitigation plan. >> Yeah. >> Um, Ben Klinger has been working with University of Minnesota Duth. And so
they did a draft version presentation. They've been working on it since January. It has to be finalized, I think, by the end of the year. And so they had been meeting with representatives of all the cities in the county, all the first responders, the schools, universities. Um, it was pretty
impressive. They had a website that has a series of maps. They picked like 15 possible hazards. Um, so flooding or winter storms or, you know, whatever. and like pick flooding. They have a map
of the county and they'll show history of where there have been declared emergencies or floods, what buildings or assets are inside of those areas, what the value of them is, so they can use that for planning um for projects that
they do, but also for use when there are natural disasters. So they can come up with estimates. part of the plan is uh is also to write down certain measures that the municipalities or the county want to take um so that those are in the
plan for potential future funding. So we will um be able to make public comment for about 15 days and um if you have a real high degree of interest I'm sure we could ask somebody to come give us a presentation. >> I think Mr. Clinger was going to do
something. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> I was I was impressed. Okay. So, yes, uh SNAP benefits I think today was the cuto off. So, SNAP benefits are cancelled for the month of November. Um Homestead County had passed a resolution to give
$200,000 to Channel One Houth. I uh would like for us as a board to discuss giving an emergency donation to volunteer services and to uh the hometown resource center um to help meet the needs of folks who are hungry. We
have about 3,200 individuals, 1300 families, and the dollar benefit of the SNAP by month that comes into the county is like 400 $440,000. I It's a lot of money that we will have to be making up. Uh, personally, um, so
I'd be looking for a second to have a conversation about that. >> Second. >> Thanks. That's it. I think Mstead County was some type of match. They put up some money, but that it was tied to somebody else matching that money. So, it wasn't just So, I don't know.
>> I'm not talking about $200,000 either. >> Yeah. If they didn't get that, I don't know what the I think there were some extra strings and such. So, it wasn't just a re Yeah. Okay. But yes, uh Mr. Senum did bring that up. Okay. Any other business to come before the Winona County Board?
>> Motion to motion. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Motion to adjourn by Commissioner Hing, second by Commissioner Regley. Any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. >> Oppos? Nay. Ajourn. Thank you. >> A match ID >> something. There was a match to it. the
county was doing something and I don't know who they expected