Republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all messed up. No. All right. Um, next up is approval of the agenda. Does anybody have
anything to add? Hold on, Michael. anything. >> I don't I did add some additional information, but we'll cover it during the agenda items. I don't really change the agenda. >> Somebody like to move to second >> motion by Kelly, second by Ed. Any
discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> I. All the same side. Motion carried. Um the consent agenda which has minutes from January and February financials. We have any questions about that or like
to move to approve? So move. >> Motion to approve. Is there a second? >> I'll second by Don. All any discussion any discussion? Any discussion? All in favor, please say I. >> I. Same sign. Motion carried. New business. Ambulance and pair building
update. >> How are you? >> Good. How are you? >> I'll start and then we'll just go along. So I wanted to give um kind of some context to where we are and the last three years um that we have been kind of
talking about the fire and ambulance bar. Um so in um in a large broad context right now ambulance obviously is at our city hall location. Um the quarters are really cramped for what ambulances are right
now. Uh we we definitely have a need. Uh and I think that the um ambulance currently obviously does not have
enough room and if we go with another ambulance, we don't know if it will really fit. Um but I think the good thing is is um the ambulance crew has been working on this for it well I mean it's three years now. We've been working
on it for 3 years. The old ambulance building uh in 2022 was actually condemned by city council. Um and there was a lot going on there. So instead of putting the entire
building history reported there, um, council chose to abandon the building because there was over half a million dollars worth of improvements to do on the building. Um, some of that included some floor joists. The roof that was originally put on the building actually
was never engineered and it is far too heavy for the actual building structure. So, if you go down there right now, the the walls are actually pulling away from uh the foundation. It's a it's about a half an inch crack at at this time. Um
so, right now there's >> Can we just clarify the council didn't just abandon the building? We couldn't insure it anymore. I mean, it was condemned. Yeah, it was it was basically condemned. So yeah, the other >> the other problem with the building is once we would touch it, um you know, it
had to be ADA compliant. Um there had to be some insurance writers that we would have to put on it. Um there was just things, right? So right now, public works does have some items in there, but the garage half is fine. It can be insured,
but the rest of it really cannot be. The other problem um with the building in general is um you know the heating and cooling of it is extremely complicated. It has a boiler system. Uh it's fairly old. Um
it has a speestous in the building. So, you know, there's just things that we would have had to mitigate to continue operation in it. Um, so in 2022, the council made the decision to um start looking at a new
facility and what that would look like. And so I will tell you that at first there was six different site selections. Um, you know, some of them were the um out by the industrial boulevard park area, the school over by the nursing
home. We we had kind of a a smattering of where we wanted to build it. ISG, our normal civil engineering company, took a crack at it. Um, we felt like they're they were not meeting our needs and the group as a whole decided
that ISG was not um listening to the needs of the fire and ambulance group. So, we abandoned that building project and we um hired Bloom, Dubs, and Hayes to help us. In your original council
packet, it did say. I was working on streams that same day. So, it was the wrong engineering company. It was at Philly Bloom Bloom Companies. So, in November uh 2022, Darren officially said, you know, unless we put some structural
um items in place, we really cannot be in the building and it can't be insured. So, what that caused was kind of a series of events. Um first, fire and ambulance lost their training space. Um, I will tell you that that doesn't sound like that big of a deal. You know, we
have other spaces available, including the room that we're in now, but this room is really busy. Uh, if you look at a calendar right now about, you know, 75% of the time there is something going
on upstairs at city hall. Um, so there's been multiple times where, you know, fire and ambulance will have a meeting up here and I'll have to go to Adam or Kristen and say, "Hey guys, sorry, we're having a special counsel meeting. You're going to have to go down to the fire barn." Um, so both lost their office space. So
right now, um, you know, the record retention for fire is downstairs in what used to be my office. Um and then ambulance obviously has some of the records in the temporary ambulance building.
Uh the idea that uh we were going to build a separate building just for ambulance did come up multiple times or if we would just build a new fire and ambulance barn combined. Um we designed that I don't
know six different times. Uh it just turned out that you know building a brand new facility for both uh was just really cost prohibitive. It really did not fit kind of our needs as a community and the needs um
um financially of what we could actually put up with. And I think just to interrupt here for a second, I think it's fair to say uh fair to share that that when we finished that design of that building and preliminary cost came
back, it was almost $13 million. So when you when we get to the dollars and cents on this building, you'll understand what why we abandon that. >> Yeah. For us, it just didn't make sense. So, um, so for the past four years,
we've, you know, we've done a lot of different things. I'm not going to reread that, but, um, you know, we Whoops. We definitely we're trying to, um, get the needs met, which was a training facility,
a place where they have office space so that they can do debriefs, um, making sure that they had enough ambulance base. We also tried to get another drive-through bait for fire and it just wasn't in the cards. We just didn't have the amount of budget for it.
Um, and we'll go through the drawings here in a little bit, but so I I always like to say like what happens if we don't build it, right? What happens if we decide not to go forward? Um, currently conditions in the ambulance bay limit the type of truck we can purchase. The size of the new
ambulance could possibly not fit. Um there are different ambul am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am am ambulances but in our neck of the woods um the chassis that we have the F550 is really what makes sense. In fact we have a lot less repairs on that
ambulance than we do our old one. Um and I can tell you that we have spent a lot on the old one conditioning it and making it not break. Um not building doesn't solve a training issue. So, I was at the last ambulance
meeting and they did the uh some training and their meeting and I'm not joking like 12 people and that's maxed out downstairs. It's not very large. Um, I would also like to say that, you know,
especially for fire when they do their meetings up here, and, you know, Adam can talk to this if he wants, but, you know, if they're talking about a piece of equipment or something new on the rig, you know, it's hard to have your meeting up here and then go all the way down to the fire building. Um, so
sometimes the lost in translation between what is happening in the the rigs and what they're training for is not directly connected. Um, we I put this in here because I do think that it's important to say. So,
right now we're having elections down um at the fire hall, which causes uh Troy to get up really early on election days and come move the fire equipment, which is fine. He likes it. He's a morning person. And uh but really
in reality, it it really does become uh a problem if it gets really cold in there. Um, you know, you have election judges sitting at the fire hall in a very cold environment. I will say that a lot of people have commented that they rather go to the fire hall for
accessibility reasons. Like the parking is right there. It's easier to get in and out of the building rather than up here at city hall. Um, in fact, the last election a lot of people commented how much easier it was for them to get their loved ones in and out that had um some
kind of disability or handicap. So if we if we built it, I think the training room would be an excellent candidate that is something is heated heated and cooled. Um it make the election judges a little bit happier. Uh currently other cities around us
contract for ambulance services for major medical um suppliers. Uh obviously we've looked at some of those numbers. you know, even if we don't build this building, uh, we're still going to have a service one way or the other. So
whether we don't build it now and we have to in the future go with Alina or Ridge View, um, they are going to need a station and I can almost guarantee you that the station we have now is not going to work for them. Um, so as we
continue down that path about what ambulance and fire looks like in the future, I think that that's a really important piece of this puzzle. Um, not building it just means that we're going to have to build something soon. Um,
we still service 50% of the county. Um, you know, we had a very, I think, productive township meeting. By the way, I have not heard back from any of them yet. Um, other than Alsburg and I believe transit, one of them signed. Um, you know, Gibbon gave us some feedback
about the bill they got and they said, you know, what are we going to do? It just keeps going up. Ambulance service just keeps going up. So, um, and luckily we're we're really not at a position like Gaylord right now that, you know, pays $200,000 on top of everything else
that Ridge View has. We wanted to give some examples of recent constructions and I I didn't put the years on here but I just think that it's important. Majilia is a little bit special case obviously um they had a a large fire and some structural problems
in their downtown but um they spent about six years ago 3.2 million. St. Peter just put a new fire department up um that was 9 million. Olivia did a firec city hall government center for 3.6 million a couple years
ago and so on and so forth. Um we um have our engineer team here with us. So we're going to walk through some of this and add you can add Adam or Kristen. You guys can jump in whenever you want. I think it's worth going
through the building again um with city council and just kind of talking about what it all meant and um structurally how this would kind of um progress if we went forward with the project.
>> I have a quick question. >> So you said that um was it ISG was that the original um engineer? So they looked at these other buildings. Um has the current um engineer looked at the six
other buildings that you know started out of the six building sites? >> The sites? No. Um and most of them were were eliminated. So for instance, if we b built a new fire hall by the industrial boulevard. Yep.
>> It's actually not out of the blast zone if there would be an accident. So that one got eliminated for that. The one by the nursing home, they had a lot of soil correction to do. Okay. >> In that location, >> millions of dollars. >> One of the reasons that that project
that was completely added. >> Yeah. >> Um the find out about until late in the process. >> Yeah. It was like a $3 million correction. >> Um and then the one by the school was abandoned because it's too close to the highway to get in and off for emergency
purposes. It's not very good to build on highway. >> Okay. >> You can't you can't really do a pull through on those, which is what you would have to do. You'd have to come around from the backside and enter every fire truck and every ambulance cuz you're not you wouldn't be able to go,
you know, turn across the road like we can over here and block the road while you're backing into the trucks. >> Okay? >> So, everything would have to be drive-thru and it's just it's not feasible in that location. not enough space >> and you have the park
>> and the park >> where other kids are and >> all the kids running around. I mean, there's there was >> there was a lot of reasons why that when there there's reasons why it's a feeling and there's reasons why it wasn't. And I, you know, you got
20 to 50 year old people with adrenaline and they're, you know, we're not always the smartest people driving to and from the fire barn, ambulance barn. So we want to keep away from, you know, the kids if we can.
And so then has um the engineer looked at existing buildings like down in this downtown area like BNR or you know >> let's address BNR really quick. So B&R has absolutely no viability. Okay.
>> Um we even measured the outside of the buildings like the garages aren't big enough. I I don't know how small we think the ambulances are but they're not big enough. >> Okay. >> And the other point of that is like they're not ADA accessible. When we take over a building, we have to meet certain
criteria just like we did with the police building. Like the building had to meet ADA specifications and accessibility. And those B&R buildings just don't have any of that. And um if you go in them, you know, the trusses
are cut and reddone in a way that I I don't think any architecture would sign off on that. Um, >> and then we would have invested a lot of money into an aging building already. >> Yes. >> And I still am baffled by the fact that
it is not always cheaper to just remodel an exist an existing building than sometimes it is to start from scratch. And I again, like I said, it boggles my mind, but I think that's a good example of where the remodel would probably cost
as much. And then we would have a 50 at least year old building. >> And the ability to train in them too was one of the reasons that we wanted to do an expansion of our current firearm is that there's still not really a good training
area on where to go. The other thing is is in the future in the future emergency services is probably going to be one department eventually. Not yet, but most places are marching towards that. So now you're taking care of two different two
different buildings, two different crews. It just doesn't make sense to do separate buildings at this time. >> Thank you clarification. Mhm. >> And I think that probably is good
because, you know, for the the general public to look at, you know, they know the the school is sitting there going to be sitting there empty or is currently, you know, you look at buildings and it is easy to think, well, the ambulance should fit in there or that should work.
But you know when you do consider like you said the you can't access it to turn in appropriately or it you know it's an old building it would not meet the needs very you know for long that it's good I mean it's a good conversation to have
and I think it's important that people know we did look into those things we didn't just dismiss them but we had real reasons why we chose to go with the plan that we have in front of So the um this is a black and white but
let's start there. Um the right section is the current fireh hall. Same footprint, same same everything. Um so we're going to kind of go through what is on the left hand side, but we're going to go to a color version if that's
okay. just because color is easier sometimes. Um, so I'm going to zoom out. As you can tell, um, there's going to be some site upgrades. Uh, when we start construction,
obviously we add some parking, um, to the south and to the southwest. Um, this is kind of where that the old Trouble Horn building is right now. the um event space or whatever you want to call
this. You know, think about when we have, you know, pork shop feed or the ambulance does um uh fundraiser in the future. There's a little bit of space that is outside of the parking lot that's not um
that's not a parking lot, you know, it's it's actual space that has a purpose. >> Green space. green space. >> You know what? I wanted the picture that has all the lighters in the Hold on.
There we go. So when you exit the fire building to the west a new um ambulance hall um it includes a decon room um toilet,
a corridor and the fire SCBA kind of where they fill up all their tanks and some storage. Pretty bare bones. Um, the decon room really is needed. I will tell you our current one meets zero
standards. Um, it it just doesn't. Um, if you go down the corridor to the south, um, you'll notice that we have another restroom and on the, uh, right
side of the screen, you have the kitchen. The kitchen area is also considered a storm shelter. So based on Minnesota state code, um all public buildings, including if we were to build a a city
hall, have to have this u storm shelter area. Um and it's basically a self-contained unit. It has its own toilet mechanicals and air from the outside and recircular.
Um the kitchen would really um it's kind of gives a bonus that it's in there to be completely honest. Um but you know >> also has to have a real micro. >> It has to have a separate. Yeah. >> Anything else about storm shelters? >> It Yeah. It needs to um withstand any
debris coming. Any of the other buildings can just fly away as long as that little bunker is is is held intact for a few hours while people can weather the storm so to speak. Um so yeah, it has mechanical, it has a toilet, um it
has water available, um air filtration, so people, you know, it needs and it needs to be the size of the occupants in that facility. So we sized the shelter for the occupants in this facility. So
45 to to 60 staff or EMS fire. Um if we go over kind of by the EMS bay, the ambulance base, you'll notice that there's a gray area. Um we originally had this kind of
slated for um four to fit into this building area kind of back to back. Um that was to look for like some new equipment, some extra space for fire, maybe a a light tower and that kind of
stuff. Um unfortunately due to the the cost of that, we actually cut it back to just the two bays. Uh, but you'll notice that the EMS support staff area kind of will have the supplies um and that kind of stuff right off of
the ambulance bay so that when the crews come back, they can easily get inventory back up um and have the ambulances back out on the road. The corridor obviously uh from east to
west is just one open area. So, you know, they can get from the front of the building to the back of the building pretty easily. The south area is kind of where uh all the magic happens. So, before we get into that, I just wanted to say this
gray area um was the future or was originally put into the original plan. Um unfortunately, just because the cuts that we had to make, that was not included. So, what we did do is we
scaled back what the training room looked like. We scaled back what the offices looked like. Um, and really I think that uh we did they did a really good job at um making sure that this is exactly what we needed to make sure that
fire and ambulance can function. So, if you look to the left, you'll see the EMS um kitchen or sorry, EMS office. um that'll hold like all the personnel records, accident reports, all their iPads for training, that kind of stuff.
The physical training room is kind of um an open area where they can hold EMS or fire trainings. Um we can have our elections in that area very easily. It's a barebones room with some tables
and chairs, maybe a projector or TV. All the way to the right, we have the fire um office. And so basically just mirroring the ambulance, but it will have personnel records, fire reports,
um that kind of stuff to to be functional. Any questions about the building or any other specifics that you want to know about the building? Or Adam, did I miss anything?
And the other thing that we that's not on here that we did um cut is that I I said there was a drive-thru bay. The bay would have been like a wash bay for all the apparatus before it went back into
the building that was on this north west corner of the building and that was uh cut just because of the expense. Um I want to talk about the mezzanine but I don't know which page >> let's say the next page
>> is it? >> Yeah you can right there. >> There we go. >> So yeah above the storm shelter. So there'll be a a concrete top on that storm shelter so it can withstand any any debris coming from other buildings and um that area can serve as a a
mezzanine for storage. We included a stair staircase in the um a metal grade stair in the EMS bay that goes up to a mezzanine and that we added a guard rail there um that could be removed if you want to forklift something big up to the
mezzanine. Take the guard rail off, put it back safety reasons, but it gives you an area pretty bare bones area for storage. All you really needed is some lights up there. that's already there with the roof structure and the floor for the storm shelter. So, it just kind
of gives you extra space for storage. >> We actually talked about getting rid of the mezzanine, but it actually didn't add any cost to the project. It has to be there because of the roof for the the storm shelter. Uh we the group talked a lot about
angles of roofs and um I think this is the best or the better picture to kind of show that. Um as you can tell the the roof is actually they're all slanted to the to the south.
Um and obviously it will go down to a storm ponds or a storm sewer. Uh the original angle of this building kind of dictated I believe how we were going to get rid of the rest of the water. Um
the fire hall you'll notice gets some windows put in. So in this project we are reskinning the entire fire department. There's a lot of reasons for that but uh mostly the brick that's around the building is really coming off
of the building. it's deteriorating and it's just showing age. Um, and as we pin it and connect it to the next building, it's going to be easier to do that uh seamlessly with some new skinning. The other thing that the fireh hall will have is um
um heating, air conditioning, and just an exchange of air. Um like we have kind of said in the past um that building once it gets wet, it get it just stays wet for a very long time. Um the only
um heating element is the actual um floor in in for heat and that would change with this project. You can kind of see too where we were talking about you know the the parking spaces uh handicap parking obviously and
then the the walk up through. Um, so if you were doing elections or training or whatever that would look like, you know, it's it's pretty welcoming and inviting. These are just some other areas.
So, some really technical things. One thing too is there's direct access from the outside into the truck base, both EMS and fire. Um, so you know, there's a call. We don't have to
all go running down one hallway and pile up on each other and um get trampled by the guy behind you. Pray it's not Leon and uh or me.
But uh all exterior access to the truck bay as as well as interior access. Yeah, I think the the group that put it together, you know, really looked at what can it be
done minimally but also make sure that it fits the needs and those needs. Again, we're really a training facility and an all-in-one building. Well, go to page 34 real quick if you can on 34 on the drawings or
sorry 34 on the agenda. >> I don't know what that is. >> Let me know. A A700 is the >> There we go. >> Yeah, that's just a roughless view of the interior of the building,
you know, and all of the fixtures you see in there with the exception of, I believe, the plumbing fixtures. Uh so the desks and the tables and chairs and all of that um those items are are not included in the
pricing. So we can go out and purchase those separately or use existing whatever we need to do until we can supply it. All right. Um, I'm gonna try to zoom in
on this again. Um, so I think we can get um, so we've reached out to Larsson Builders. Um, they do quite a bit of building in southern Minnesota. I'm sure most of you are familiar with them. The
new square footage um, is around 7,000 square ft. Uh, the mezzanine, that upper level is 1,200 square ft. So the total square feet that we're adding is about 8,000 square ft. Um, total cost, and we'll go through
cost breakdown in a little bit, was 3.9 um or about $500 per square foot. Um, do you guys want to go line by line or do you want to how do you want to handle it? >> I can explain it if you need to. But yeah,
>> I mean, so we have a construction cost um of 3.2 2 million or 3.3 million close to it. And then we we put allowances in there for permitting. Um we have insurance and we have contingency. So we might, you know, things might change
according to lead times or construction cost, you know, when we do build this. So we might run with a 12% contingency. And then there's overhead um with a 5%. So these are all soft costs you know you know that comes with
Larsson building or any other um GC or or construction management team and they also have their general conditions which includes you know project management supervision you know all the items they need to have on site like a you know dumpsters and temporary heating and
cooling and electricity for the during construction. So all that is included. So, this is an overall, you know, hard cost on on construction. It doesn't include like it said FFN, so furniture, um, yeah, items that aren't attached to
the uh to the building. So, case works included, wall lights are included, ceilings included, um, flooring, everything like that. But yeah, if you um want to bring in and then appliances are not included right now either, but you know, we can we can work with the
stakeholders on what appliances are uh getting brought over from other areas or want to be part of this package or or a furniture package. That's we can work that out throughout the design process. Yeah, I mean we worked with with Larson
Building on the pre-esign before we kind of brought, you know, before we brought in uh engineers to kind of give us some reasoning on on some of the the design. So, it was great that they were able to to come back and give another uh
estimation on the new layout and kept within that $4 million budget we worked with before. Any questions about the cost estimates or how we arrived at them? >> Yes. So, I had a resident uh come up to
me and say that he had been told not to say that it was going to cost $4 million and that's pretty much what it's going to cost. So, um I'm not sure,
you know, they we're like, well, you know, I was told not to go around saying that this is going to cost the city $4 million, but it it kind of is. So, >> Yep. So, when I talked to Tom Whitiki about this, we didn't have cost estimates yet, and I don't think it's
responsible for people to go around saying things that aren't true. And he has more than the right to do that all day long, Martha. Okay. >> But it's not responsible as a resident to go around when we didn't even have soft cast estimates yet.
>> None of it. We had no information yet. Now he can >> This is relatively new. The actual >> I got it last week. Yeah. So I I just think that it was irresponsible. I didn't say he can he can do whatever he wants. It's freedom of speech, right? But I think it's
irresponsible. So because I thought I had heard that number at some point in the past as an approximate but um you know but maybe not maybe I dreamt it to say well I think we had I mean that original plan
that we spent a lot of time on was came in just unbelievably high and I think we said we need to keep it you know more in this ballpark. market. We might have said 4 million. >> That was the direction we gave to the
engineering architecture. >> You were a bunch more $4 million. Yep. That's that's where we came. >> That's where we felt like we needed to be. >> And honestly, you know, coming in at 3.2, you know, hard cost and, you know, the contingency.
Are we going to spend $400,000 in a contingency fee? I I mean likely not unless something goes crazy wrong like the building blows over while it's being built and insurance doesn't cover it for whatever reason, you know, or or
whatever. I don't expect that that, you know, from my experience in the industry in the steel industry, I don't expect that we'll spend $400,000 on a contingency. Now, does this include the um reskinning of the old building also? Is that in
here? >> It is. Y >> that is. What's that all under? I mean, >> so that's part of the metals. >> Okay. >> Metals and then >> concrete masonry too. >> Well, no, no, they So, the concrete masonry is um
Yeah, that number. So, that's so we're using pre-cast for the the large EMS bay. Then we have pre-cast that surrounds the uh storm shelter. So pre-cast concrete that'll help us schedule, you know, cost a lot, you know, up from, but it's it's one trip around the around the footprint with
that material and it's insulated. So that's where a lot of that cost is is in the concrete. And then with roofing and metals and um sighting, that's where that number is for skinning and the skin around the new building. So those are where those high numbers are. You know,
676,000 for concrete. Um and you know, all the all the support areas are um CMU concrete, you know, durable something for the services to use. Um in that support area and the hallway between EMS
and fire where the training offices areas, that's a different kind of construction that's going to be um like H framing, chipboard, walls, paint, carpet. It'll feel a lot different than than the bays and support areas. >> What's all include like window
treatments? >> So that's you know with with windows if you want to have um curtains or shades that's a lot of times. >> So that number is really flexible. >> Mhm. >> That's a lot for window. >> Yeah. Play pole signage bath accessories. That's part of the
bathrooms or is that the toilet whatever? Um that would be played ball signage, bath accessories. >> Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of times that falls under the same um work scope. So yeah, bath accessories includes Yeah. Grab bars for the ADA, um showers, um yeah,
toilets, uh vanities, sinks, >> and signage. That's what's on the ground floor. Yeah, we we put a um >> so signage would be signage interior, but we put a allowance in there for exterior signage as well.
>> What do you have? >> And then both >> sorry both buildings are sprink will have to be sprinkled now. Correct. >> Y of the size of the over 10,000 square feet. 150 foot ball. So we can put a big
40 >> 60 flag up there to flip in the wind. >> I'm just trying to see some of these numbers are pretty big. I I'll do it for 26 miles. >> It is surprising in the last four four or five years since pretty much since the pandemic the prices are just very
pretty high. And this, you know, this like like Michael said, this was just done um the beginning of uh of this year. So these are pretty accurate costs. These were what we envisioned cost will be during construction. So in 2026,
yeah, a lot of items have, you know, gone up. And what are they plans for heating and cooling? What do they have for that? I mean, what are what kind of a system are they using in the building? >> Um, so we'll have radi heating like
fuller heating in the in the new building and then um they'll have um for air ventilation. >> Oh, that's you know the ventilation. We just started engaging with the uh engineers now that we moved past
schematic to see what that system is and that would you know help if you know I would recommend engaging more building that would help us in designing and keeping cost um accountable during the design of these mechanical electrical
plumbing systems. Yeah, we have a we have a mechanical and plumbing consultant that we're working with and then structural civil consultants. >> So, we're figuring out a way, you know, one of the challenging things on this building is is attaching the new
building to the existing fire barn. >> Fire barn is a pre-engineered metal building. >> So, we we need to only attach it to the one side because that metal building is shaking all over the place. we need to have just one of those those sides to
contend with. So, we'll have uh quite a bit of um expansion joint there, but we worked that out with structural engineers underpinning and making the footings work. So after we got the cost estimates, we
decided to kind of look at um you know what is the actual tax impact um to our residents. Uh we took uh Whoops, that's switched. Uh we took a a
an actual loan interest from USDA. So we I put it at 4.5 million. That gives us some latitude, some it's supposed to be less than that, but that's what I went with. Um, we we can because we're going with the SDA funding
um ask for reimbursement for engineering and construction document costs when we go out for the the bond. We don't have to um because we've already spent that money obviously or will spend the money. Um, so the loan, um,
right now I just took an estimate. The 3%'s actually probably high for the USDA loan right now. Uh, especially since the Feds just cut interest rates. Again, you can actually go up to 40 years. Um, 30 years is pretty standard. 40 is
because we are a smaller community, there are some guidelines that we can go under um that can stretch that out, but obviously the longer you go, the more interest you pay. uh it would cost the city to pay for that bond about $230,000
uh paid over uh 30 years and the total interest there. I I think the the one thing that's important to remember is that unlike some of our other building projects, this is a completely general obligation. So there's not a utility that's going to pay for this.
>> Um this is straight up taxes. Um so in our example we we took a um median household value which in with 205 and we put it through our estimator um
that we use um during tax season we just updated it. So just some caution um you know these numbers are obviously based on example of nothing changed. So if if Winthrup
City Council decided, hey, um you know, we're not going to put as much to economic development or we're going to cut parks, all of that would would change these numbers, right? Um we also know that our bond debt will actually go down after this year. We do have some
bonds that are falling off, but I kept them the same just so that it's easier to compare. >> How much is coming off? >> It's not a ton. I think some >> bond. >> Yeah, it's one bond. It was for the electrical upgrades >> in 2011. I think there's $75,000 a year
>> that's coming up. >> Yeah. >> Um so our net tax capacity right now is about 76%. Um if we put this bond on top of that um it go up to 86.92.
So still statutoily okay. Um how would we allocate those taxes? So, I broke down um I broke it down a little bit more than what we did during tax season because there was just some a there was just a lot of questions like we had
emergency services allin-one and not separate fire and ambulance. Um we also didn't have bond debt on here. The original tax calculator did not have that on. So, I added all anyway. So, if you go all the way down where it says
new fire ambulance hall, it would make up an 8.2% uh percent um of our total budget. And it would cost on this estimated home value about sorry125 it cost about $125 a year.
And again, um, capex bond debt, um, could definitely changed this upcoming year. Um, as well as, you know, fire, ambulance, parks, library, right? That that budget hasn't even been wrote
yet, but we wanted to give you an estimated value. So, the total increase to taxes for a property of $25,000 would be about $125 a year. cup and a half a copy. >> I say really that's not much you divide
that out by 12 months. >> Well, and I think one of the things that that I keep coming back to is when this project is finished, we have we would have an asset in the community. The building itself aside from the bus
services that we need and it would help us provide it. It would be a solid thing that the city of Windsor has. >> Yeah. And you know, this year we had a terrible snowstorm where we had 30 people up here. What was that number? It
was a >> large number of people upstairs. And if we could, you know, split them into two different locations, it would be it would have been a lot more pleasant for those that were s those that were here.
So, you know, again, goes back to the asset that we have and the the truck bays. My assumption or my my hope would be that the truck bays will be completely
blocked off from the offices and the training area so that you know Joe public couldn't wander around from the election chambers or sleeping quarters from a snowstorm out into the trucks and
mess with the >> Is there any savings I gonna uh that we're spending on money on right now. I mean, do we have to heat that garage more than we would usually um with a fire bar? Is that going to be more efficient heating?
>> Well, we still have to make some decisions about the old ambulance barn that is still costing us money. It is still heated in the winter time because the water pipes don't have valves in them. So, if we just stopped heating it,
the pipes would burst. So, we're still paying a gas and electric bill there. Um, >> which is over $500. >> It's over $500 a month. So, the back ambulance bay that we kind of
retrofitted, right? I don't know, in 2022. >> That is extremely expensive. I unfortunately it's not split from the rest of the building, but our bill has gone up and that's because it's, you know, it has an electric heater in it and it's more efficient than if we would
have got a gas one, but it runs in the middle of winter. It runs all the time. Um so yeah there would be some efficiencies in in that but I don't I don't know what
dollar amount I also think and I brought this up before the the importance of having fire department here on your homeowners insurance bill. If we didn't have the
fire department here in Winthrop, if say we said just let it go, Gaylord can cover us, your homeowners insurance would go up probably 25 30% or more. And I think that $125 would probably be more
than eaten up by that. I think what's important too is even god forbid you know we lose the u volunteer ambulance the fact that they would need a building out here
um for an ambulance because of the distance u getting to calls who whatever firm would take it whether it's redville or whatever um we would have the facility form right now
>> and I hate to see this not happen and then let's say in two or three or five years we needed to contract with Verina and they said okay but you know you have to build us a building >> and then we wouldn't have nearly the
amount of control of flexibility in how we do it. So, Julie, I want not to speed things along, but to speed things along and to please >> focus our discussion. Um, I'd like to propose a motion
um to proceed uh with construction documents involve our financial advisor, proceed with a bonding request for a preliminary amount of $4.5 million. That'll get us
the next step. I I don't believe that means we have to spend it, but I think that gets us the next step so we know for sure where we're at. >> That a motion? >> That is a motion. >> Okay.
>> Okay. That's Is there a second so we can discuss? I'll second. Okay. questions, discussion. >> So, how much would that cost to to go to the next step? Because there's obviously a cost,
>> right? Um >> I mean, talking to the financial >> do you know the answer to the construction document question? I >> I can't I I can't speak to that right now. I I don't really know. I'm managing
the drawings and the the the uh engineering. >> What's the next step though? Uh would be >> Yeah. And and well, just to be really clear, in order to go to USDA, we have to have construction documents. They're not going to back a loan unless they
know that we've done our due diligence to construct the building. >> Do we have an estimate on it? I mean >> the construction documents and whatever we need to go to there. >> So generally the construction documents
um in our in our previous experience you know it it just depends but normally they're between 10 and 20% of the actual project. So I think you could expect the construction documents to be what 153
something >> probably closer to 150. But the importance of that USDA funding is pretty big. >> I mean, yeah, they're it's guaranteed like they don't they actually won't deny
emergency service buildings. So even if you're not creditw worthy, you still >> get interest. Yes, we are. But I'm just saying like if >> if we went through the normal bond phase, we would not get the interest rates that we would with USDA. that yes that
>> and that does take some time too. >> And I mean if you looked at a a timeline, you know, if we could get construction documents, um if that could happen fairly quickly, you know, you you send this to USDA and our financial advisors, bless you.
Um there's still going to be some gap there be before you know before we would be proceed forward. There would also be some public hearings and um obviously some tax impact statements um because that would be part of the requirement
and I I mean even if those weren't required I think we absolutely need to get this out to the community. We need to have a lot of discussions about this and explain why why we're making the proposal that we are and what it's you know what we hope
it will positively impact the community for decades in future. >> Yeah. And quite frankly any any further delay I mean two years ago this building might have been you know $3 million and we're at 4.5. Any further delay is going
to just add cost to it. Nothing gets cheaper. Um, so >> get some get some construction documents and get some numbers locked in and and make sure that we
are financially able to handle it. Um, but we can't do that until we have the construction documents. >> So then where does this money come from to cover the construction documents? you know, it probably come from a 500 capex accounts
>> and can that be reimbursed then uh once you get the >> Yeah. So, it's my understanding that the USDA, you know, they don't reimburse it, but they allow you to take that back out in the loan if you want to. >> And you know, some some cities do do that because then they reinvest it in
like equipment or they take out the loan saying that it's reinvestment of construction documents, but they buy an ambulance. You know, they That's how they reimburse it. More discussion that you I mean you've been a part of
this problem >> for a long time. >> Yeah. >> Don, you've been on the committee. Well, I think the biggest thing for me is, you know, when people say 4 million and and and if they come up to you and say, "What's the cost is?" And you say 4
million, they're going to go, "Oh, you know that." But if you tell them >> on a house that this average median, it's going to cost you $25,000 a year. I think people need to know that. And I don't think they're getting told that when people are out there jawjacking.
Well, and I think it it matters because, you know, we're we have we do have it it's expensive. It's going to cost everybody more every year. But w without it, it's very likely that we if we can maintain our ambulance service, we're
going to end up spending a lot more on an ambulance to try and squeeze shoehorn it into a a small space that's not adequate. Um, you know, we have we have no training space. And if anybody thinks there's going to be less training
required for EMS services, I you know, it's not going to happen. And we're we're not providing that space for them to be well trained. In so many ways, we're working against those very EMS services that we really really need to support right now.
Because I I've said it so many times, I hear from people in so many communities that say, "Wow, you have a a good functioning ambulance department. you've got a, you know, reasonably fully staffed fire department, keep it. Do what you can because not
everybody has that right now. And if they don't, they miss it. And I think Kristen made a really good point when at our kind of our public hearing when she said she's on the ambulance for new and she said if all three ambulances are out and we need one,
who's waiting? >> I worked this weekend and I was on the road for 14 hours, they can transfer that alone. there was no ambulances around >> and and we had a backup ambulance call last night and I don't know what our response time was but um it was it was
reasonable and uh you know we talk about the old ambulance you know having less miles than the new ambulance on it. I know that I've I know that the front end has been redone three or four times and it was pretty shaky going down the road last night. I mean,
it's it it it floats down the road. Now, that could just be because I haven't driven in a long time and I didn't, you know, but it sure felt like it was a little squirt the front end. I have somebody look at the ball joint and
stuff. And that's a $10,000 bill, too, you know. But we have, you know, even even if it is, you know, we're a year a year and a half away from a building, you know, a move in of a building, I would guess. And, you know, so that
ambulance is going to be around for another year and a half. And you know, >> and I I think in a lot of ways to me it keeps coming back to again it it's going to require more money from every
resident, but it it feels like one of those things we need to do as a community to take care of each other. If if we don't if you want to retire in Winthre, I I think you really want to have the ambulance there and you want that fast response time that we have. I
don't think you want to wait 25 or 35 minutes for the ambulance to show up. Um, you know, I I don't want to pay any more on my homeowners insurance. I' I'd rather pay $125 a year on my taxes that will go to an asset that will be here
and and support the community of Winthre rather than paying a much higher premium to my, you know, homeowners policy wherever that's based out of that. None of that comes back to my community here. So, I think it's hard to see all of
those things and balance them, but for me, it comes down to we just really need to look at our community and say, "Yes, it's going to cost me some more money, but I think it's worth it to uh take care of each other jointly." And that sounds kind of trit, but really that's
what I think I that's why I went through this community and should give it some thought. >> I looked at it the other way, too, you know. So right now, Gaylord pays $195,000 a year for Rick View service plus
$85,000. I think they got a bill for 85 for appointment and what not. So that's $300,000. They already pay what our bond payment would be for a new building. You know, I I think that's a lot to ask.
>> And they're paying for the building still over there, too. >> And they're still paying for the building. Part of that contract with Ridge View was that they had to have that word facility and you know our requirements wouldn't be anything
different. But we're really lucky right now. I mean our ambulance service has kind of been the hub of communication and training. I mean look at our EMR refresher. I think there was 15. >> Yeah. >> There's 15 and half of them weren't even from here. I mean, thinking about a
training room that, you know, could actually prepare our EMTs for that next level is, I think, really important, too. But I guess why I said that and compared it is one way or the other, a $300,000 year bill is coming our way if we don't
do something. I think and I think that's really important to communicate that this gives us some measure of control hopefully about how we spend that money and how it benefits our community >> and it will probably just go up every year from Rio.
>> Yeah. >> What was that? I'm sorry. >> It'll probably just go up every year. >> All right. So, there is a motion in a second. Did we have >> I forgot there >> more discussion. Usually I forget. Any more discussion?
Any more discussion? Any more discussion? All those in favor of motion, please say I. >> I. >> I posted. All right. Motion carried. Thank you everybody. That was a very good discussion. Thanks for the information. >> You have to work on it now.
>> Yeah, we're fully prepared to have construction documents done. >> Okay. >> June one. >> Awesome. All right, thank you very much. >> All right. Um, now let's move on to
police policy updates. >> Um, I don't know why my screen keeps digitizing, but it just does. I don't know. Um, so these police updates are um all post requirements. Um, part of a
certification was going through them. post updated these um like three or four months ago and then either failed to tell everyone or let us know on the back side. But u there's quite a few of them. I I'll be honest.
Uh I didn't read every single one of them, but Logan did and so did the post board. So most of them are just updates to our existing policies. >> Can you tell me what post means? >> It's the police officer officer training. Yes. >> Thank you.
Good job. Thank you. You know, I've gathered a few acronyms in my brain. >> They're the ones that basically certify for this. >> So, this these have to be adopted, don't they? >> If they don't get adopted, then they will have to adopt them at some point. Yes.
>> And these are pretty much standard. So, Logan didn't really >> No, >> he didn't put these together. He didn't really >> No, it wasn't part of like our legal team. They come from the state of Minnesota and say, "This is how you're going to handle racial profile. This is how you're going to handle a sexual assault investigation.
They're basically just stand >> did read them all last night and that they're pretty detailed. >> Yeah. >> All right. Um >> Thank you. Motion to accept. Is there a second? >> A second. Motion a second. Any
discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? If you need help sleeping, just lose those and All right. All in favor, please say I. I opposed. >> Motion carried. Um, 4.3 part-time flex
summer help. >> Yeah. So, Troy is just asking for three part-time helpers. Um, we'll start taking uh applications kind of next week, getting them kind of prepped and ready. Uh, they'll go through an interview
process just like we do any other employment. How many people do they usually hire? >> Usually it's between three and four. Um because >> how many hours a week do they work? >> Uh it depends on the person. Um some work 20, some work 15.
>> What do we budget for I should say? >> Um 30 is what we budget for every year for each employee. >> And for how many months? >> Uh for four months. Some of it must be only three because it basically normally normally they are off
by August, but some of them come back like on weekends and help mow parks and that kind of stuff. >> Like Brody has been with us I think five years now, maybe six, I don't even know. But he'll he'll come back on a weekend and pick up some
hours just to help mow and get things done. >> All right. Make a motion to approve the seasonal work. >> Second motion and a second to approve. Any discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? All those in favor, please
say I. I. Both same side. Motion carried. Um RFP for seal. >> Yeah, that's it. >> Yeah, seal coating has um you know definitely gone up in the last couple years. We were actually seal coding um a
little bit less um than we did in previous years just because the cost just continues to go up. Um we're just seeking some requests for proposals on that and what the service would be. Um you know, we might get lucky. Maybe there's a company that's already doing
like Gaylord or Gibbon um that are willing to pop over for a little bit cheaper. Not to say that we had a problem with any of our past vendors. We're just trying to get new quotes and new estimates. We haven't actually done this in about 5 years. So, thoughts about that. How many fish were
they looking at? >> Um, this year there's four linear streets >> and we paired that down, right? That's the reduced. >> Yeah, we did. when we used to do >> we used to kind of like do you know a
quarter >> and it just it just is so expensive. So during the budget season we we paired that down but last year we did a lot. I mean we did Honeybee Heights parking lot um and you know some parts of the Northwest
the area for and this year the county will actually seal coat Second Street again. Um stay tuned. Won't that be fun? But second street will also get sale but that won't be on us. It will be on them. >> We need a motion for the
>> Yeah, we could second J Kelly second by Martha. Any discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? All those in favor please say I. I same side carried. Uh 4.5 the city hall door replacement. Yeah. Um so
we finally have an estimate um from Messner Builders. So if you remember the the ramp that we put in uh for the USDA grants um we put in in 2024.
I think it was the same time Second Street was happening. Um a lot of residents have been complaining that they would just like to use the stairs go to the door. We asked for some quotes. We finally got one back. Um, it's 107 10,753
to replace the door and with with the window that's there. >> So, they're taking the window out, putting the door in. Yeah. Is there more? Well, I suppose >> there's a lot of masonry work. It's
tucked under the building, so they're going to have to do some cement work with us, too. >> Actually, haven't complained, but I don't >> I really don't like >> I feel like I'm stuck in a
>> lines where you're going to be there for like the airport where they make like being at Orlando. >> Yeah, exactly. Um, uh, did we request vis for this or was >> this actually came from a year and a
half ago? >> We talked about this a long time ago. >> Um, where would we, if we chose to do this, where would we take the money out of? Do we have money in this? >> We have money, a little bit of money for
building, construction costs, replacement windows. I mean, I don't I don't like how it's set up either, but I just use the library stairs and walk up for now. I mean, I think it's an extra cost right now that we don't need.
>> I don't think it looks good when >> we have other projects that we want to work on. I mean 10,000 doesn't seem like a whole lot but if it gets added on other things I think if we need to do
something with it though it looks it looks terrible it looks it looks it looks like we haven't finished a project you know because it's there's still steps there and yet we can't use them and so I mean I think we need to we need to decide to do something with it.
Did we have any other bids come in? This is the only one. No one else. >> I have sent it out to numerous vendors over the last two years and this was the only one that came back.
And I think 90% of the reason it doesn't come back is because it is a small project and there's masonry work. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And that is not something that every construction crew can handle. Honestly, for the amount of masonry and
stuff that's needed, I'm surprised it's not more than that. >> It's just, you know, it's not a lot of money, but it's What if we just took the stairs out for now? The steps because they're probably not
compliant anyway, right? >> Well, they go nowhere. They don't go anywhere. >> Yeah. But what I'm saying is if you put a door there, are they that I don't know >> the right rise and run? And I'm doubting that they're the right rise and run.
>> I think they just matters because the we have the ramp. Can they remove a bar right at the door so I can just and then step up because it's too hard. >> Yeah, >> there's a gap there.
>> Like you're not you just jump it. >> It's a lot of walking for a lot of our seniors. I mean, you're >> and whatever you take the steps out, you still have >> an unfinished front of our city hall.
And I don't quote me on this, but I think when Paul was talking about it, like the steps are within that structure. >> That's what I was thinking. >> It goes up and underneath. >> Yeah, I don't remember about that. >> I don't think it's like you'd be better
off putting like planters there, you know, keeping the structure, but just making it something else. >> Either way, it's going to cost us money to fix it. But we really don't fix it. >> It'll cost us money to not fix it, make
it look a little better. It'll cost us money to fix it and make it usable. >> That's some nice raised beds there for someone to plant flowers in it. >> Make a motion to
something. I'm still looking at cutting one of those bars off for myself. Just put a hinge or just a >> Maybe you can push in. >> I want to see you just >> I was thinking of
>> Well, I I don't agree with the 10,000. I think we have something else. >> Yeah, I know. So when everybody goes out tonight, take a look at. >> Okay. So that 91.
>> All right. Um, moving on to Good. We finally got a hopefully easy one here. 4.6. The electrical upgrades up here. >> It's free. >> It's Yeah. So, um, you know, so there's a couple updates that I just
want to put. So, um, all of the electrical up here qualifies for brand new fixtures and bulbs, which is great. Um, because MMPA will pay for all of that, the labor and the installation. Um, the 10589. U, we also are having
them replace all the hallway lighting that goes down the stairs because it's really, really dark. Um, the bathroom lighting is in that um, quote, as well. And then the kitchen lighting. So basically this entire upstairs plus the stairs are getting relapsed. Um MMPA is
taking care of all of that for us. They just got back for us. Yay. Hooray. >> Yay. >> Um >> this um second project is the the $2,800. That really takes care of this desk and the electrical that we need. So, we did
have someone come in and quote us, and I don't have the quote back yet, but they took measurements to get a sound system put in. Um, but he needs electrical on the desk. So, Jackson would come in, they would actually come from that
electrical, drop um conduit onto the desk, wrap it around all the way so that we wouldn't have cords sticking out everywhere. Um, and with that, HDMI cables would also be pulled so we didn't have cords everywhere. >> They're going to drop it from the
ceiling down here. We'll have a conduit. >> Yeah. And it's a decorative conduit. Don't worry. >> It's fancy plastic. >> I mean, right here. >> It'll be either here or on Heather's side. >> From the ceiling. >> From the ceiling. >> They couldn't come down the wall and go.
>> Yeah. So, I asked them if they could go underneath and Well, it's all concrete. >> Yes. And so it gets really expensive. >> Okay, >> you take that 2,700 and add like $5,000 just to >> because what we really wanted is the
ones on the floor, you know, put them on the floor with electric, but it got really expensive like >> Okay. >> considerably expensive. >> So will there be outlets at all of our spots or every other or >> um I think it's every other >> outlets.
for the >> sound system >> for the sound system or your laptops whatever whatever you >> they have to have it for the >> sound system will actually have jacks with them the I think it's Cat 6 is what it carries
um and then it'll go back to a receiver in the back room and we asked them to replace the speakers because they can't reuse those so I'm just afraid that's going to get knocked down by I think they're pretty structural. Like
they're going to have to build off of it because it's going to carry electrical. So, it's got to be the code. >> I'm sure it'll run up above the ceiling or drop straight down wherever it's getting docked. >> Yeah. >> So, not that it's just hanging. >> We want to make sure that this desk is where it is going to stay.
>> But that's a false ceiling, right? >> Yeah. Why not just run the conduit down here and then instead of straight down >> and talk to them about that? >> I mean, for us coming back here, I don't care if there's a little bit of, you
know, a step. You just >> you can get some kind of a piece that lays across that cord. I don't know that would be up, but >> you're at least it would match that wall and it's out of the way here.
We can do either or. I'm sure it'll be around the same cost to move the electrical, but yeah, we can definitely go on the back side. >> Yeah. Plus, it limits if you if we ever wanted to do something different to move this console table to a different position or whatever in this space, it's
hard if you have that right in the room. >> Yeah. If it exceeds the 2764, I'll come back to council. >> I I doubt it will. And then the last one that was on here, because there's really
three quotes, the $1,000 one just get rid of Logan thought maybe MMPA would So, they have new LEDs at the police station. So, MMPA is not willing to help pay for this. It was just some dimmer switches. It's really bright at their offices. It's as if the sun is on when
they're in their offices. Their LEDs are so light. So, um, but just disregard that one. Logan says they're fine. They'll just not turn them on. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> That's normally when you go in the office, they're not on. >> We need a motion on that. >> Um, yeah, just for the MMPA1 um and uh
the second one, the $2,000 one. >> Someone second motion by Kelly, second by Martha. Any discussion? Any discussion? Any discussion? All those in favor, please say I. >> Same sign. Motion carried. Thank you, MMBA.
>> Yeah, >> that's nice. Um, all right, that we've covered everything except committee. >> Mike, you want to give us an update on admin and EDA? >> Yeah, so um just to
we uh we did purchase Hans, so the EDA did help um fund Hans 50%. Um that'll be opening soon. obviously you're doing some painting some venue exploring. Um that was in a joint effort with uh Mid
Mid Country Bank. So um thanks to them for helping make that happen. Uh took a little bit longer than anyone expected, but we got it done. Uh we're really really busy with streams. We're doing a lot of data collection. um they actually
went all the way back and uh so last year after our second street project our I and I went down so much that MMPA didn't think that we were recording properly. Um so it's it was a 30% decrease to our
sewer ponds. And so with some of the upgrades that we made, they actually are collecting data from this year and including it in the permit. and we went back as far as 2016 to show the trend. Um, so it's good. It's a good thing. It means that when we build the building
and the filters and the filtration, um, you know, that can be actually scaled down. It will cost less, um, in the long run. So, um, we've been really busy with streams. Again, we've been having a lot of, um, support calls for streams. On
the 11th and the 25th, we go to the state capital and talk to legislators. Um the federal legislature just is opening up their requests for um congressional appointment dollars. So we'll be busy, really busy doing that.
Again, we're asking for 4 million from the state and 4 million from the federal government, which is a million dollars per city and our businesses. That makes my inability go way cheaper.
>> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Any other questions for Michael about any of that? Um, fire, we've covered a lot, but you got anything, Adam? >> Um,
just I guess to piggyback on township stuff. I haven't heard back. I talked to him, but I haven't heard back from Jesse. Uh they were sending off the all the information to their price uh
consultant. Uh hopefully this week he's going to have me some numbers. Um he did say that we could get in on a chassis this year to save the 30 $40,000 from the 27 emissions
jumps that would happen. Uh, so that would that would have to be paid for and then the truck wouldn't probably go out there until 27 is probably the timeline for this the swath and all
that. That's just how far they out out. So the chassis would probably sit around out there till then whenever it would come in, but it's probably 6 months out or whatever from order. um >> is 30 or $40,000 difference.
>> That's what they're thinking is the next emissions jump for 20 which they're going to stop even putting orders in in June or July. So after that time period you won't be able to get the 26 emission
27 emissions. So, um, with that, I guess, you know, once I figure out that, I'll obviously come back and I'll do some talk with Michael and how we want to get that locked in that price, that uh, chassis. Um, and,
uh, he did I did talk to him about our tanker, um, what we've done with the patch and the welding on our little tanker. Um, knock on wood has been holding so far. Uh, but there is that
DNR money out there for that grant. So, I'm going to get some prices on a a poly tank and we're going to try swapping that out and seeing if we can save the city and townships
price of probably having to do a whole truck to make something work. But so they're gonna I have two vendors get me prices for a tank and once I get those I'll get the quote or the quotes put in the grant stuff and cross our fingers
and see what happens from there. But otherwise I have nothing else. >> Thank you. just go ahead just for the crowd's um
>> benefit when he was talking about the chassis I think Tom you maybe were questioning what chassis he was talking about he's talking about the uh existing rescue truck that is 40 40 years old >> 89
>> they're talking about remounting the box onto a new chassis and it'll save us about half the cost trucks Okay. Um, library Martha. >> Yeah, we met um we met on February 19th
and really just discussed the health of the library and ways to get more people into the library. Uh, we're supposed to come back to our next meeting with ideas on how to get more people into the library. So, working on that. Uh, the
friends is having a murder mystery in a couple weeks, a couple weekends. So, it's going to be a couple of matineese. So, not an all day thing with some local actors in it. So, it should be fun.
>> Are you going to be the murderer? >> I am not. I'm not in the play, >> but for anybody who's interested, you know, buy your tickets. The library friends would appreciate it. Um, anything else? >> Our next meeting is March 16th, I
believe. >> Um, public works. >> Um, just that Troy and Chris will be up at the Minnesota Rural Water Conference. They both have to test for their wastewater license this year. It's just
that time. So um planning commission they have not met um RS Viber has not met since our last meeting. Utilities there crazy ambulance
>> up to 22 calls for the year. Uh we are looking at some different grants. We're got a radio grant coming up and then um we have what is it called?
I just got an email from the EMSRP that we can um get a uncompensated care funding. So, all of our non-transport um calls that we have, as long as we did
not transport those, but we did go on scene, we can get a compensation back on those. Um so, we had 44 of those last year. So, I'm going to fill out an application to get those try to get 44 back, but we only have 44 of them. We have to approve. We have like six
different criteria that we have to follow. Um who's that? >> The EMSB. EMS, >> the emergency board. You might at a rural grant. >> Excellent. >> Um police
have anything? >> Um only that we're still looking for candidates for the full-time position. Um we did do interviews, but we um chose to pass on the candidates. So
we're still still working on that. Okay. cable commission we have and parks already. >> Okay. Um I think that's it. Move to adjurnn. So move a second. I
have a second. All those in favor, please say I. And I think our journals