[Music] Good evening. We'll call the council meeting to order. Please rise. To the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Please remain standing for a moment of silence for all our military personnel and serve notice of the open public meeting will
have them satisfied concerning this meeting. The home news tribune published a notice along with the star ledger on January 10th, 2025. A copy was posted on the municipal bulletin board. It should be so noted in the minutes of this meeting. Councilman Anderson, Councilman Bower here, >> Councilwoman Deji Suss here.
>> Councilwoman M. >> Councilman Patel here. >> Councilman Small >> here. >> Councilman Harris >> here. >> Vice President McAuliff >> here. >> And President Spiller >> here. >> And I get a motion to approve the minutes from October 7th, 2025. >> Motion.
>> Second. Any questions or comments from council? >> All in favor? I. I >> opposed. I pass it. Beginning with second reading ordinances this evening, we will start with letter A, which is reappealing chapter 7 titled traffic of the revised ordinance to the town of
Woodbridge. And this is with regards to uh introducing an ordinance that will allow the police director to temporarily suspend parking permits in the required areas during certain construction projects. I get a motion that this ordinance be taken up on second and third reading of the public hearing.
Motion. >> Second. >> Any questions or comments from council? All in favor? I >> opposed. Eyes have. The public hearing is now open on letter A, letter A only. No comment from the public. Can I get a motion that the public hearing be closed? The ordinance be adopted and
submitted to the mayor for approval as required by law. >> Motion. >> Second. Any questions or comments from councel? All in favor? I >> opposed. Eyes have it. Letter B is an ordinance repealing chapter 7, a section of chapter 7 entitled traffic, and this
is with regards to vehicles over certain weights excluded from certain streets. I just want to remind you this is a housekeeping change made at the request of the New Jersey Department of Transportation. With that said, could I get a motion that this ordinance be taken up on second reading and the public hearing be open?
>> Motion. >> Second. >> Any questions or comments from council? >> All in favor? I >> oppose. Eyes have it. Public hearing is now open on letter B. Letter B alter. No comments from the public. Can I get a motion at the public hearing be closed?
The notes be adopted and submitted to the mayor for approval as required by law. >> Motion >> second. >> Any questions or comments from councel? All in favor? I >> I opposed. Eyes have it. And letter C is an ordinance authorizing the lease of property at 585 Main Street, Woodridge.
And again a motion that this ordinance be taken up on second and third reading and the public hearing be open. >> Motion >> second. >> Any questions or comments from councel? All in favor? I >> opposed eyes have it. The public hearing is now open on letter C.
>> Hello Mr. President. Ken Gardner 101 Scot Avenue Woodbridge. >> Um can you just tell me the purpose of this uh lease and who we are leasing to? This is a lease agreement between the township and the Wbridgeidge Wolfpack hockey club uh for them to use a portion
of the club classroom uh for hockey not hockey purposes for educational purposes. >> Great. Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Are there any other questions from the public on letter C? Letter C only. >> There are no other comments. Can I get a motion that the public hearing be closed? The ordinance be adopted and submitted to the mayor for approval as
required by law. >> Motion >> second. Any questions or comments from councel? All in favor? I >> oppose. Eyes have it. We will take letters D, E, F, and G as first reading ordinances. That these ordinances be passed on first reading, published in the home news Tribune on October 24th,
2025 with notice of public hearing to be held on November 10th, 2025 at 6 p.m. I get a motion. >> Motion second. >> Any questions or comments from council? All in favor? >> I. >> Opposed? >> Eyes have it. Finally, Mr. President,
you have resolutions before you listed as numbers 1 through 13 exclusive. Can I get a motion to approve those consent? >> Motion. >> Second. Any questions or comments from council? >> Mr. Mitch, I'll be abstaining from number 13. >> Mr. >> Mr. Mitch, I'll be abstaining from
number 13. >> So noted. Other comments. All in favor? I >> I opposed the full. >> Thank you, Mr. Mitch. We'll now go to the public uh comment portion of the meeting. When approaching a microphone, please state your name. what section of state you live in. You will have a
onetime opportunity to speak. All members of the audience shall adhere to the township's form ordinance which is posted on the entrance door to check council chambers. The public session allows for 5 minutes. This includes remarks by the speaker and any response by the council president or administration. When there's one minute left, I'll alert to the speaker as to emphasize any remaining points or
questions. When the fiveminut period is passed, all speakers are to leave the microphone, please, and return to their chairs. All video taping all video taping video taping must be taken in the designated area. The public uh the public session portion of the meeting is a comment and or Q&A interaction between
the council president and speaker. The council pres president over the council meeting. Thank you. Uh you no one needs to touch the microphone. Um it's all set. So thank you. >> Go ahead. >> Hi good evening. Marge Pendro Woodbridge. >> Good evening. >> Well I'm here for TNR as usual and I
wanted uh Thank the mayor today for meeting with me. We had a wonderful conversation and ultimately delay >> Marge. I'm sorry. Can you just get a little closer to the Thank you. >> Okay.
Close. Okay. Okay. Um we had a night a very nice meeting today and I wanted to bring to light uh TNR as usual our group Woodbridge Animal Society. We're small group so far. We've TNR 268 cats and we
have another TNR day on Monday which I'd like to invite the whole council if you want to stop by from 7 to 5:00. It's at a private residence at Avenue. And I wanted to ask and I did ask the mayor this. I wanted to ask if the TNR band if
it would be a possibility to have them come and do TNR once or twice so you could see what it's like on the township property. He said he had to check that out. And also money's always an issue.
We have yard sales. We're having a turkey tray and out of our own pockets. A lot of the money comes. So I brought it to the mayor about possibly a grant. it wouldn't be associated with the township, but if he knew someone who
could help us write a grant for funds for TNR and he said he was going to look into that. >> M president, yes, Marge had a quite a good meeting today. Uh we do have a grant writer. We are willing to help
Marge and the W, the Woodbridge Animal Society, write a grant. it wouldn't be a township grant because if we got money from a grant, we can't spend it without requirements of bidding and things like that. So, you don't want us to get a grant for you that we can't give to you because someone else can do the same
thing cheaper. So, we will help um you first research if we can find places that have grants and if you find places that have grants, let us know. And and we're happy to help. We have a grant writer who's outstanding. She's helping the board of ed right now and just doing an amazing job. In fact, she's right
behind me. Um, so we're happy to do that. As for the vehicle, we think that can work. We think we can allow your TNR vehicle to come to a town event like the health fair or perhaps a concert. Uh, I I don't know all the
details yet. It would have to be the the vet would have to be licensed and insured. The vehicle would have to be licensed and insured. I can't give you a blanket yes because we have to go through a few things to be sure. You're protected. We're protected. the vet protected. But sure, we'll work with you
on that, too. >> Well, I just want to thank you. I just want to thank you for starting to work with us. That's all we're asking for and great for. I'm still looking. It's tough. You know,
there's a lot of out. >> I can assure you she knows what she's doing. >> Exactly. I appreciate it. So, thank you very much. >> Thank you, Marge. Uh, two quick things. Um, as I said two meetings ago, on behalf of my council mates, I want to thank you and your team for all your
dedicated work. If you can do what you normally do, send Mr. Mitch the information on that date in Avenel. Uh, I know the house. I can tell the rest of the council mates if they're available and uh, we can attend uh, this Monday. Thank you. >> Like everybody stop. >> Thank you.
>> Gail Rmmerki is I don't have a lot to say. Um, I'm a nurse, so needless to say, I don't like to see anything suffer. I don't like to see people suffer. I don't like to see animals suffer. And what people don't realize, too, with this TNR, these people are
donating their time, their money. They're there before work. They're there at night after work. And not only is it TNR, but they're helping with injured animals, lost animals. There's so much more that goes into this group that people don't know. These are good people
with the kindness of their heart. If we could help them in any way that we can. I know several years ago, I'm old, but several years ago there was a very nice young man by the name of Austin working with the animal uh society here. And he
and some of the girls that he was working with, they were wonderful. They helped out so many people. Um, people don't realize that, you know, if you spay or neuter one cat, that cat's not going to reproduce anymore. But if you have one female cat that's still
reproducing, by the end of the year, you've got hundreds of cats running around the the township, not only is it not fair to the animals, but it's not fair to the people. It's it's a health issue and anything we can do to control that. I mean, we're not going to
eliminate feral cats or feral dogs or anything completely, but whatever we can do to help would appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Are there any other comments from the public this evening? >> Can you step up to the mic?
Okay. Hi, I'm Danielle uh Jackson and I'm one of the volunteers on Margie's team. And uh we've trapped just since I've been doing this with her. Um gosh, I personally have trapped probably 40
cats maybe since we've been doing this. And a lot of times we are able to get young kittens and we put them up for adoption. We socialize them. Um Marg's group funds all of the veterinary care. You know, we spay and neuter them. We
give them the shots. We socialize them. We adopt them. So, we make a lot of families happy in the process. Um and also um Gail had spoken about u public health. One of the things that our vet
does is she gives all of these cats a rabies vaccine. Uh, which protects them and it also protects the public. Um, you know, you never know if a cat gets bitten by a raccoon, you know, when they come down with rabies. It helps to control the situation and keep, you
know, the outdoors a lot safer for the public as well. So, it's a public health issue. Um, it's a compassion issue and really I'm excited to be at this meeting to hear about, you know, we're going to have cooperation. It's really exciting. I think we can do great things together
for the township and for the animals. So, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Are there any other comments from the public this evening? >> Hi, uh, Josh from Aanel. I have a piece of property behind my property. Uh, it's owned by Rising Up and right next to it
is a hotel. Last year I had to call the cops three times because residents of the hotel entered this area, started fighting. And so my question is, can
someone place a security fence around it to prevent them from going into this area? Uh a couple of years back they tagged fences along there's like four houses that are adjacent to this property.
Uh so that's one issue I would like to see. >> Just so we're all on the same page. I know exactly. You said rising up and a motel establishment rising up the building on St. George Avenue or another piece of property they own along Route One. >> They own the property on Route One. >> I see you're talking about that. So what
we could do is I know the area. uh I can forward it off to uh the mayor administration and um have the respective department go out >> pre and and the same property last year a big storm came no lie uh a branch fell
off this tree it's kind of leaning towards Route One for preventive measures I think maybe they could trim it because if it does fall over you're going to have a hassle on Route One. >> Okay. Uh, and the third thing, right at
the corner of uh, Dunkin' Donuts, >> there's a couple of them. Sorry. >> Uh, right on Route One. Okay. Right before this property. >> There's water coming out of >> I don't mean to tell you. I know exactly. >> It's been like a month and a half that I see. >> Well, it's the middle it's it's an ongoing issue with Middle Sex Water.
They've been out there. Um, we're aware of it, but they're working in the area. As soon as you turn off onto Tapin Street, >> um, right by Bubba Cuz I know exactly what you're talking about. I've called it in. They've been out there. They're just having uh issues um with that with that line right there. But that is the water company. They're aware and they've
been out and they'll be probably back out. >> So, as far as the fence that I you know, I appreciate it. >> Thank you. We'll do >> council president. We'll make middle sex water. >> Oh, perfect. Thank you. >> Any other comments from the public this evening?
>> Good evening. Mayor Mitch, 538 Alice Place, Woodbridge. I would like to take a moment to speak on behalf of Councilwoman Sharon McCulla and all that she has done for the community of Woodbridge.
No matter the circumstances, Sharon always shows up. She constantly supports those in her ward and beyond, giving to families in need, whether it's people who are faced with a fire or ensuring
that families go with the food. There are many families that she has approached that were weren't getting the food that they needed. Sharon goes beyond and above for the residents of Witch. She also plays a vital and active
role in our schools, making sure the students have what they need to succeed. She is deeply committed to giving back and supporting the children of our community. Sharon is dedicated, selfish leader who
always answers the call to serve. She is not a public servant, but also a kind, friendly, and supportive neighbor to everyone who calls Woodbridge home. Sharon is truly irreplaceable, an
amazing person inside and out. Thank you, Sharon, for all that you have done and continue to do for our great community. We are very fortunate to have you. Thank you. Thank you.
[Applause] >> Are there any other comments from the public this evening? >> Hi. This Okay. Can you hear me? >> Sure. >> To grow a few feet. >> Okay. Um, Celestra Cano, Colonia. Another environmental thing. Yes. Okay.
I'm here tonight to voice my environmental and health concerns over the proposed Williams Transco Northeast Supply Enhancement Project, otherwise known as Nessie. It's a methane gas compressor station and pipeline. The project includes the construction of a
new 32,000 two engine methane gas fired compressor station that will be built near the trap rock uh quarry in Franklin Township. Along with the massive compressor station, there would be a three and a half new miles of connecting
methane gas pipeline that would go through Oldbridge, Seerville, and South Amboy and run 23 miles through the Raran Bay and New York Harbor, putting New Jerseyians and our ecosystems in danger. New Jersey would not receive any energy
or benefits from this project. New York will. Instead, we we we will be left with a compressor station and pipeline that would have permanent impacts on our communities. More than 2,000 homes with over 5,000 residents live within one
mile from the site of a proposed compressor station 206. And perhaps you may recall when Congressman Palone designated the Lawrence Harbor beachfront portion of old the Oldbridge waterfront park as part of the Rarin Bay slag super fund. so that cleanup of this
area could proceed. Approving William Transco's dirty permits would invalidate all the work he and others have done in the cleanup of the Raridan Bay since long buried contaminated sediment disrupted because of the the dredging that would be needed for this pipeline
would release over 1 million tons of toxins into the Raridan Bay. Since 2008, 10 Williams transcodes pipelines and compressor stations have exploded. These incidents have killed six people and
injured 103 residents. In addition, the fires and/or explosions have released methane into the atmosphere, leveling buildings and contaminating groundwater. As you know, methane ga gas is over 80 times more polluting as it is released
into the atmosphere than CO2. and the increase in ground level ozone emitted through traveled would uh would travel for miles thereby impacting our nearby Woodbridge Township communities. A coalition of 28 28 environmental and 20
advocacy organizations have opposed this project su successfully for almost a decade. Each time the the New Jersey D has denied Williams Transco the necessary permits to build this toxic compressor
station and pipeline. It's appalling that Williams Transco has again reopened their unchanged application. The New Jersey D must deny these permits again as they have in the past and stop this project once and for all. So, I'm urging
Wbridge Township residents to join the 22 municipalities already opposing this unnecessary project. You're invited to speak out at the virtual air permit hearing on November 13th from 5:30 to 9:30. It'll be available on the micro
team's uh platform. Also, would you please send a message to Governor Murphy to say no to Nessie and also submit a written comment to the New Jersey D? And I have an informative flyer with me on the proposed Nessie project for the
council to review. It's not a resolution. It is a uh informative flyer. So, if it's okay and I have it if you're done, I don't know if I'm able to get out to. >> Thank you so much. Thank you for listen. Are there any other comments from the
public this evening? >> Hi, Christina Jansen Avenue in Abanel. Um, so I just wanted to bring up a concern. On August 18th at 1:37 in the morning, our car was broken into and um
those people have yet to be found that we are aware of because I think that we would have gotten a call. They broke into our car, took maybe $20 or so. Um, so nothing of, you know, importance, but
to feel violated in my own home, like even though it was outside, is is very unfair to me. Um, and to our family. Now granted, our alarm was not off-c. It was going off three times, four times
an hour and where it is stationed is right above uh right below my bedroom window regardless. I should be able to feel safe. Whereas after that incident, I was constantly checking my phones, every notification that came from our
alarm. And that's that I shouldn't have to feel scared about that. It's not right. Months before, the reason why we got the alarm is because it had happened where they tried to open uh the car door, the front door, and the alarms went off. I'm not sure if it's the area
that we're in where we're located next to a bunch of motel and whatever suspicious individuals are living there. Regardless, um you know, we should be able to feel safe in our community. um we should if we forget for whatever reason to lock our un to lock our door,
we should be able to have our stuff still still there in the morning. So, I just wanted to bring that to a uh your concern. >> Any other comments from the public this evening? >> Good evening all. How are you? >> How are you?
>> Good. I got my timer. Um state your name in the area, township, which state you live in, please. >> Yes. John Kazlowskis, Woodbridge Proper. >> Thank you. Sure. Um, appreciate the the microphone and the increased uh, audibility. Um, two things I just wanted to briefly touch on. Um, I had brought
something to the attention of um, uh, Mr. Cochland there regarding the smart meter concern and the monthly charge. Um, left a message with the office. I haven't really heard anything. I know there's a resolution by somebody in North Jersey to fight on the um, the additional like 10 or 12 dollars a
month. Um, but not everybody wants to be in the smart monitoring program for those. So, I haven't really heard anything back. I was concerned. Um, I know that doesn't fall on you. I do appreciate you taking the time to listen and talk about it. >> It falls on me. It's my response. I'm I'll be happy to talk with you. >> Appreciate it. Um, I did reach out to
Mr. Palone um several times or his office for that matter. Um, I know that's not for this forum here, but um, he never got back to me, so I don't know. Um, I'm assuming maybe it's it's tough. Maybe he the last time he updated his phone system was in like 93 or 94 when he came into office. So, I get
that. >> If you I'm sorry, real quick. If you want to get us the information, we'll make sure. >> I appreciate it. It is a concern and and there are a lot of people that are affected by that. Um the second thing though, >> um I talked a lot and I I didn't really have a I spoke a lot about energy last week. I didn't really form my my
statement and question. I just kind of rambled through it. So, for that, I apologize. Um I was a little nervous. I had a lot of data and it was just floating around. So, anyways, I don't want to give you a hold of me here. Um, basically touching back on the energy, uh, we used to be in New Jersey a net exporter of energy and I discussed how
we are now in a shortage of that and you know, you did acknowledge that. We talked about that a little bit. There was a plan that was supposed to go up in Keysby. Um, so I looked into that and I appreciate that. It's a 600. It was um, a plan for a 650 megawatt plant which would have replaced I think the one down
in Lawrence. Yeah, there was one in Hudson that was coal and then another one in Nuclear which is underrated um in Oyster Creek. That would have replaced one of those. The interesting thing is that would have powered like 600,000 homes. Um we have an energy shortage now
and I don't know about you guys paying a lot more now. I mean we feeling it. Energy affects everything. It affects the food prices. It affects clothing. It affects labor and of course the energy bill. So I get it. I understand. Now, I've heard some talk
about some relief being handed out, like a $100, $200, and that's, you know, that's nice. It's nice sentiment. Um, I'm not saying this. Some might say this. That seems like an election year stunt because you're not really fixing the problem. All right. The problem is there a shortage of energy. New Jersey closed a lot of power plants. We need
another power plant. Um, I hear a lot of headlines about, you know, things that sound great, like sustainability, and we're getting rid of coal and carbon dioxide, which is the building block of plant life, which gives us oxygen. But the problem is we're not getting a solution, right? There's a lot of talk about this and diversifying the
portfolio is important. Okay? Just like an investment, you can't rely on one thing. So what I'm saying is there was a public hearing on this on February 28th, 2023. So I looked into it and that's how I found out it was a 650 megawatt power plant, which again, by no means is that
a small one. But interestingly enough, um that was the plan as I was told. And about a week later on March 6th, 2023, a plan was unveiled and there was a patch article, you know, that that publication, the patch, um, a week later that there was a
different plan for that site and there were renderings and it was a big sexy park and it was looking nice. And the thing is, how in the world can we go from our plan for this site is energy and a power plant, which takes a long time to fund and a long time to build,
to a public park within a week. Now, I know some really great people in the private sector that can throw that together really quick and do some nice renderings, but a week by any standard is very fast. So, I'm just curious how that was. And if you do want to make the argument about solar, I think solar is
cool if that's what you want. But in order to match that power, I think I did the math last time. To even just get a th000 megawatt, you need like 40 giant panels per household. So that's not even
totally reliable. If you want to talk about pollution, some of the materials used to make those and I have a whole list here. They're not the best and we import a lot of it too. So you're basically just shifting, you know, numbers from one one side of the ledger to the other. So my question is maybe perhaps on a local level, how can we
start influencing this so we can get it on a state level? All right, 20 seconds. Council President, the site where the power plant would have gone if it was approved by the state and the park where it is now been built and waiting to open
are two completely different sites. So, nobody went from building a power plant to building a park in a week. [Music] >> Okay. >> I did have a patch article that did say >> that doesn't mean anything to me. >> It's incorrect if that's what that said.
>> Okay. Thank you. The college for the public this evening. >> Hi, my name is Christine and I'm going to touch up on Christina's conversation. Um, just to let you know that we're on Jansen Avenue. Um, we're just a block
away from um the hotels and so on. um October 7th or 9th, it was broad daylight, 12 2:30 in the afternoon, and some young man had came over and helped himself into someone's car. Um they had their
tools and it was open the car uh helped themselves to grabbing a grinder 2:30 in the afternoon. I'm there all day and um I see all these different individuals that are running, you know, uh
throughout this um street and it's very uncomfortable. Um I don't know if they're coming from the hotels, if they're coming from um quick check or wherever they're coming from. They don't >> the park. I'm not really sure where
they're coming from, but it's very uncomfortable to see these individuals and especially as they're walking down, they're scoping out people's homes. I mean, I had one yesterday where, you know, it was a couple and this guy, he
had a shopping cart, but he was just looking around and there wasn't food in the shopping cart. There were things. And I was wondering, okay, should I stay because maybe he's going to start grabbing things from properties, you know, that's what it looked like and it
felt like. So, we're just here to see if there could be any kind of help, you know, around this area. Now, you know, me looking up online, I say, you know, what's um what's the level in um the crime in Avenel?
Spot on. We're in the right smack middle of where it's a high crime and it and and I've lived here since 2017 and I don't like living here anymore and I shouldn't have to feel that way. I like living in New Jersey and I like
where I'm living but unfortunately I don't feel comfortable where I'm living and I thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any other comments from the public this evening? Paul Londlon even >> last time I was here I did bring up uh a
few issues over development uh increased crime and and Mr. Mayor, you did assure us that crime has not increased in Woodbridge, but there is a perception. Um, and there's obviously obvious cases of criminal activity. There's a sense of
lawlessness. We've seen um people speeding on Pennsylvania Avenue like it's no tomorrow. We saw 20, 30 kids on on motor scooters like weaving in and out of of cars. There there's a if it's not an actual crime tick upward, it
certainly feels like it. and perception oftentimes is even more important sometimes in reality. As far as the uh the the solar um scheme, I want to speak to that. Uh solar credits in 2012, the the first round of of solar credits
peaked at $680 a credit and now the second generation of solar credits is down to $85. It's fixed. the promise that I got in the mail and because it was my ward uh uh representative, it was
how he signed it, the mayor signed it, promised next year we might see a 31% uh discount, not on the total bill, on the $85 credit. So we might save $25 next year. The problem with that is that for
example, Mikey Cheryl says, "Oh, we're going to lock in rates." That's her one big economic plan for for the state of New Jersey. We're going to lock in those utility rates. The problem is you're not addressing the underlying pricing pressures that are pushing that up. As a gentleman said, we're 20% off our peak
energy base load energy since we decommissioned Oyster Creek since we didn't do necessary upgrades on power plants that were generated by natural gas. And we're trying to replace it with intermittent unreliable energy. The wind
farms off of New Jersey to say the least are not going to meet that need. They are very expensive, very unreliable. And yet Mikey Cheryl, after after uh uh a parting gesture from Governor Murphy was to keep a hund00 million in the budget
to keep wind chasing wind alive, she's going to pick up where he left off. So, we save 25 maybe next year and then have another 20% increase next year because we're not replacing base load energy. And you're sending that to to folks that
that are on tight budgets. You're sending it to the elderly. I tried to get an explanation from the president a few sessions ago. He said, "Oh, it's it's obvious. You just read the letter." No, I'm afraid it doesn't work that way. It requires a little more explanation, a
little more care than that. As far as Miss McAuliffe, I like Miss McAuliffe. We've patronized uh her shop, my wife and I. It's not a question of whether she's nice and does good things for the town. And if she's the preferred vendor for bagels, for any municipal events, I
can't begrudge that. The only concern I have is is it open? Is there competition allowed to sometimes cater to these programs? You know, it would maybe maybe it's it's right that if you serve the town, the town should serve you as well.
I don't know. I don't know all the particulars. Again, I like you. You're a good person. I like Howie, former neighbor around the corner. My concern is always when you're in a machine politics town, when you have a mayor appointing everyone on the board,
everyone on the planning board, you're going to run into the problem of corruption, perhaps political patronage, uh, influence peddling like happens in the state legislature. These are the concerns. I don't care if I get in this
election cycle. I just want to see the 21,000 people that voted for Trump last time have representation, balanced representation in this town. Now, I wrote in the patch article things I like about Woodbridge, walking the nature trail. The county did a good job there
and having every road out of Woodbridge to go to towns that are really cool to hang out in like Ocean Grove, High Point. Woodbridge is my my home for 62 years, but it don't feel like a town anymore. It feels more like a city with all the problems of a city but none of
the benefits of the city. I I overstate that. I like the concerts, too. Now, again, Mayor McCormack is a competent, intelligent individual. No one ever disputes that. But is his character, is his honesty, is he serving us or is he
serving special interests more than us? Is the developers that get a tax break more important to him or are the the residents that are beleaguered by tax increases more important to him? >> Hey, are there any other comments for the public decision?
[Applause] >> Christy Hansen Woodbridge, thank you for bringing the microphone back so that we can hear everyone again. Um, I appreciate that very much. Um, I'm just here to thank the Woodbridge Animal Society and all their hard work that
they've done, um, and their commitment to come here and speak to you all every single week. I'm an animal lover. I have three cats and I totally support that the township should definitely try to do more to assist them in their um, in
their quest for TNR and Woodbridge. It is a program that's proven to work in other neighborhoods. It helps the public health, quality of life, and uh I sincerely hope that you will hear them and do as much as you can to uh support
them. And again, we appreciate it. I appreciate it um all their efforts. So, thank you, Obridgeidge Animal Society, and thank you council for listening. Have a good night. >> Thank you. Are there any other comments from the public this evening?
Uh, Bruce Panko, Aanell, New Jersey. Um, I was going to bury your axe on some of my agendas as Mr. uh, Councilman Anderson told me I should have, but when I come to a council meeting and some of my words are taken out of context by the
mayor, uh, it bothers me. Um, last month he assumed that I was against what the council makes as a salary, which wasn't what I was asking. I was asking what the process was on how to
get the salaries. Two weeks ago, he says I was disparing the council on what they do, and I was just asking uh I was just saying that you guys pick and choose what you want to do. Um, and if I if I had more time last week, I uh just
wanted to say that everybody on the council does some some do more than others and Debbie me and that you actually do the most on there. I I didn't get to tell you that last week. Um, Mr. President,
I I don't want to understand, are you putting on a show here? because um when I talked to you on the phone, we talked like human beings and the last few weeks it just seemed like you were talking down to some of the speakers. I don't understand why, but that's the feeling I
got and I hope that you know that doesn't continue. Now, um the mayor said that he feels that main street traffic has been less from from 10 years ago. Does anybody on the council disagree
with that? With that said, no matter it just feels like the council agrees no matter if it's the fact or not the fact with the mayor every time and we're and the and the taxpayers are pay
spending over a quarter of a million dollars for you to agree on everything the mayor says if it's right or wrong. I feel like the traffic is getting ridiculous, but you know, damage is done and we just have to make the best of it right now. Now, I thought that the area
where Sprout went up, the traffic was going to be better. If the traffic lights are in sync, it works, but sometimes the traffic lights are not in sync and it's backed up forever. And what the people are now
doing, there's a righthand lane. Uh there's a lane in the right hand side for making right-hand turns. And what they're doing now is they go up to the traffic light and they're merging in when they're supposed to be making a left. And that's causing a lot of
traffic also. So that's all I have to say right now. Thank you very much. Thank you. Any other comments public? Hello, Mr. President. Ken Gardner, 101 Scot Avenue, Woodbridge. Um, first on a on a nice note, I just want to thank the
residents of Woodbridge and Seaworn. I've been going door todo for the last several months uh talking about the campaign and the township and uh people have been great, welcoming, and and honest as well. So, uh, not that everyone's agreed with me 100% of the time, but they've gave me great insight and I've tried to represent their point
of view as well. Um, in tonight's meeting, I believe Councilwoman McCau abstained on the bill list. Um, Mr. President, can you tell me how much the bill list is tonight? Uh, total bill list was 5187,000. The supplemental was 51310.
uh $51,310 uh if I like I said the last meeting you're more than welcome to over 80 bill >> okay and in fact she did abstain at last month's meeting or the last council meeting I should say as well and that bill list was about uh about $2 million
I'm assuming that she's abstaining because there are bills in there for her business so I just want to be clear you know this is not about the cost of a few bagels even though those bills uh you know may banned for $1,000 for the business or something. That's not the
point. The point is now she's abstaining on a major part of her responsibility. It's great that the council's involved. I've said this before. Many of you belong to many different civic activities and do do many great things. I I've not taken that away from from anybody here. The Republicans that I'm
running with are also great people as well. We all care about the town. It's not about that. It's about are we doing the whole job. It's not just about ribbon cutting and going to sporting events. It's about voting on a bill list. I I think the council woman's abstained on over $40 million in bills
and that's part of her major responsibility. The budget as well. There's a discussion um Mr. Banko brought up council salaries and he was told well it wasn't voted on. Well, the council salaries are part of the budget. The mayor is making $211,000 a year. His
chief of staff is making $234,000 a year. They're all part of the township budget. And if everybody just votes yes on the budget, doesn't question any of these things, nothing gets solved. We need to go back. We need to look at everything. We need to go back to zerobased budgeting. Not that the town I'm not saying the township does not do
many great things. I'm not saying the council people don't do some great things. What I'm saying is we need to look at it. Our our people are struggling to pay the property taxes. They've been complaining about it consistently for years. And I think we should go back to zerobased budgeting and take a look at every dollar that we
spend. Let's reeval re-evaluate every uh community project that we did specific to our our police department. Are do we still have what is called community policing? I do to you, Mr. President, to the the director, whoever you'd like to ask. >> We definitely do have community policing
united to director. >> Yes. >> Okay. Can can you explain that a little bit more to me? How how that's different what we do in a community policing program? >> Well, we have two are assigned to our
community policing unit and they participate in a wide range of uh assignments. Is there anything in particular? >> Okay. Well, that's that's a good that's a good enough answer for me. Thank you for the time, Mr. President. Have a good night. >> Thank you. Are there any other comments from the
council >> Javar Woodridge? I guess you just heard it for detective square miles. >> Please don't touch the mic, sir. >> Becky. >> Okay, sir. Well, we said for years and years. Unfortunately, what we said is going to
happen. It did happen. Not for good. It happened for bad. I always said, don't follow New York. Don't follow Elizabeth. Don't follow Pamboy. And we did. And look what we are now today. You're not We are not blind. Those people are not stupid. We know what we
do. We try to hold on and support everybody to everybody. No matter what we did, no matter how much money you raised, you will spend more. And what we got all those three people talked over here. It's not just their responsibility
to take care of the animals. The people that came to this town too. They brought animals with them. Now they can keep them so they get rid of them. Who's respond? This is all because what happened to this town? Don't tell me there's no traffic. Don't tell me
there's no speeding all over here. It's all happening. And what we do? Let's do it. It's going to get better. It's going to get better. Yes, it's going to get better. Where are not in Woodbridge? Why are we giving it to certain people that benefit by this and our miseries
over here? Those people they have created this thing. They don't live in Evanell. They don't live in Woodbitch. The outsiders they just used us like any other town. They like cities. They don't live in a town.
So we have carried the burden for their mistakes. warehouses, all those other stocks, all those garbage dumps they're building to us with us. They're making money. Why other communities does not allow it? The German brought up by the power plant in
Kisby. No, they didn't walk away from there because they just change your mind because they creating lots of contaminants. The mayor cannot open a park in Iselin, I mean Casby because it's contaminated. We don't want to tell you
that there's no way you can open the park. It can't be done. You can't put people in common soil, but it's so bad. Place like no happen at Smith Street in Pamboy, Casby, that was all created years ago. Mistake was made engineering
design why all those things. It's not good for the public. Traffic is paid, education is going down. and could tell you, "Oh, we are making millions of dollars from a pilot programs." Those pilot programs, they do for 30
years plus. Did anybody know what they mean? They don't support our schools. They don't support our fire department. We got to support them. They created those things. They created more firemen,
more equipment, the schools because of people moving the area with those apartments. Talk to other mayors of the other towns. Never heard once said yet they give up abatements or pilot programs to
residential buildings just such as apartment would be the only one. And then he said, "I'll give a 24% of pilot programs money to the schools and you pay 65%." Why doesn't turn around money comes from
pilot programs because they're supposed to not burden it to the town. They just sit there the big warehouses, those apartments. Why don't you turn around and give 64% 65% to schools? They give 24% for you whatever you want to spend our ticket bars and things like that.
We are in trouble. Let's wake up. Just don't listen to us for many years to many years. Same BS and how far we got. People laugh at us. You go to the communities, they make fun of us. I'm fortunate enough to place outside the
different area in the state, people look at us like we are just why why we doing this? How come we don't stand up? Well, people leave. They don't want to stand up and fight. They don't have patience. They don't feel feeling for the town and they just leave. Thank you for your
listening again. Wake up and don't be afraid. >> Thank you. >> Any comments from the public this evening. >> Hello. >> My name is Tim Riley. I've been a resident of Woodbridge since 1985
and some of the things I've heard here tonight are not consistent with my 40 years living here. I've live in Ward One. I was the board president
of Basin Manor for 30 years. So, I know a little bit about public service. I know a little bit about volunteer. And I know a little bit about people who want to to serve, but they want to
do it for themselves. Now, living in Ward One, I had the pleasure of having gotten to know Charles Kenny, the fabulous Nancy Bader drum,
and now Sharon I hear people saying these negative things. They're questioning the character of John McCormick. How can you do that? The people listening here, how can you question the character? You come up with
facts. The last four speakers, when you come up with something, you say something negative about somebody, I want to hear a fact. And I heard no facts. to question his integrity. Okay, mention the word corruption.
They should just throw the hell out of here. This is not the Woodbridge I know. Like I said, I was the the board president for 30 years. I met John when he first was starting to uh run for
mayor. Okay. and uh he came to Aspen Manor and we had a whole room full and people were asking questions left and right and the mayor's up there.
Quality of life issues, real issues. That's a real issue. Uh and I would say within a week, maybe two weeks, these were addressed. Building 16 burns down to the studs.
The mayor helped, coordinated with the building department. We have a great building department. He coordinated with the building department and made sure that we had clear sailing to get the things done that we needed to get done.
There was a situation where where the trucking company is on Aspen Lane. They're going to put a 500 unit apartment building. The mayor came to me with Charles Kenny and said, "Hey, they meet all the requirements,
okay? But it's not good for the township. We're going to have to spend a lot of money for uh the traffic will be unbelievable on that end of town." So, uh I met with them. Ray Lesniaak's firm and uh they're used to operating
with mom and pop boards. Well, they got a surprise, right? My background is Price Waterhouse, Ernston Young, the controller of companies, restructured companies. I know what I'm talking about and I know that he knows what he's talking about.
And I know when I meet somebody like Charlie, like uh Nancy, like Sharon, we got to support these people because they support us. Sharon has a a
phone line where she takes questions and issues from everybody in the town. She's got as much energy as as Nancy Ba drum, which is saying something for all the people that knew Nancy. She's incredible. One minute, sir. So, uh uh
she's a businesswoman. She knows finance. She knows operations. She's always there for the community. But she does, she didn't look for this job, right? She didn't even want to be it. She's NY's friend. She would like Nancy to be here right now. But what she
did was she picked up the mantle and she continued the good work and she does all these things and just when I hear these people say these things cuz sometimes they said them about me. Okay,
of course I don't take that too well and I respond. But here they're so professional, right? Me not so much, right? I call you on the spot like I'm calling you right now. So anyway,
support uh Sharon. She's unbelievable. >> Thank you, sir. >> And uh [Applause] are there any other comments from the public this evening? Hearing no other comment. Can I get a motion that the public comment portion
be closed? >> Motion. >> Second. All in favor? I >> opposed. Eyes happen. We go into the agenda session. >> Thank you, Mr. May. Before we go to the agenda agenda session, a couple notes um to the residents from Jansen Avenue. I want to thank you for coming out. Um as always, it's great that you bring it up at a council meeting. You don't have to
wait two weeks or three weeks. Um I will say this about Jansen Avenue. Director Niski, uh if I'm wrong, please correct me. um by virtue of some of the complaints that we've gotten over many years uh regarding some of the business establishments along the Route One quarter, which that's one of our top priorities is the redevelopment of that
quarter. Um that's probably one of the biggest areas that has the most special checks um the most uh monitoring by traffic enforcement unit. Um you could be driving home tonight and there would be somebody there from PD and you wouldn't even know it. Um, so just to give you a little update on that
regarding the um the one resident that uh feels I was talking down to him, it's certainly absolutely not my intention at all to talk down to anybody. Um, with that said, if somebody comes to the council meeting after they have been given the correct information on
numerous times and they still go to the microphone and purposely present misinformation to the residents um to work to their advantage for whatever reason, I'm going to correct them. So, if somebody feels I'm talking down to them, I am absolutely not. I'm going to correct misinformation when they've been
told over and over and over again. And as far as agrees with the mayor, um we don't always we don't agree with the mayor at all all the time. We don't agree with uh administration. Uh we don't agree with each other at times. We don't just talk to uh once every two weeks. We talk to each other every day.
Um we communicate. That's what makes us the best team around. So, thank you very much, Mayor. Uh okay. Uh, moving down to our agenda, I'll start with item number two, Avenue Arts Village. Check out all the many great shows Apac, the Avenue Performing Arts Center will be having, especially in the next two weeks. Uh,
back again at APAC is Willie Nile up close and personal in a night of songs and stories alone on stage with a guitar and piano. Artists Bono, Bruce Springsteen, Pete Town, Shen, Lou Reed, Lucinda Williams, Jim, and Little Steven are among those who have sung his praises. His show is Saturday, november
1st at 7:30. Willie Nile has performed several times at Daryl's House Club in New York, which is owned by Daryl Hall of Holland and Oats. Also, come see Cory Glover of Living Color on Halloween, October 31st at 7:30. Uh, best known as the electrifying frontman of the legendary Grammy award-winning band
Living Color. Cory Glover has launched an exciting new project, The Soul Experience, featuring Corey Glover. Uh, exciting shows happening at APAC, and enjoy a pre-show meal at Carolines, which is located right next door. Uh the rest my agenda is in order. Uh just one
announcement. Next Friday is Halloween. Uh please remember that our roads will have plenty of trick-or-treaters on there. So please be careful. God bless America. Council vice president. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh first I'd like to thank everyone who's come out to support me over the last few council meetings and is here to support
me to hopefully bring me through to a win on November 4th. I thank you and I appreciate all your support. I'd like to go through my agenda. number one um downtown Woodbridge. We are having our first annual trunk or treat
on Main Street this Thursday from 5 to 7:00. Put on your costumes and come out and join the fun. There'll be candy for everyone. Number two, the Chamber of Commerce. Chamber of Commerce on November the 15th from 11 to 3 will be holding their
second annual book fair. This is a very exciting event that will be happening at Ros Street School. This is a free event. It's an opportunity for you to come out and meet local uh authors and purchase and look at the books that they have available for you to pursue. Peruse,
excuse me. Then I have number three, which is Seaworn. The It's not too early to get ready for the holiday spirit. This year's Seaworn tree lighting will take place on December the 4th. So, please mark your calendars. Stay tuned for more exciting details. It's always a
festive community favorite. The Seaw Warren Library is has a program if you're interested in knitting or crochet. Come join fellow crafters to share the technique, creativity and conversation in this welcoming setting.
Visit the Seaworn website for more details and dates on when this happens. Just a couple updates about what's going on in town. Um, as I said in the last council meeting, street paving is happening all over. Please keep an eye
out in your mail for the letters letting you know when the street paving will be happening. And yes, you will be able to park in different locations if you have permit parking. So feel free that you will not be ticketed when you park someplace else. Uh the community center has the haunted mini golf that's going
on through the end of the month. Visit the community cent's website for times and pricing. And the Halloween blowup contest is still going on. Minimum of four blowups are required. You have to submit your entry by November the 1st and you go on to the township website
for the details and registration. And on Saturday, uh we will be having a DVRT walk, which is a walk against domestic violence. This Saturday at 9:00 a.m., join the DVR team for the walk starting from Town Hall parking lot to help raise
awareness and support the victims of domestic violence. That's all I have today. Thank you, Council President. Thank you, Council Vice President Apollo. Council Bower. >> Thank you, Council uh Council President. My agenda is in order. I have no announcements tonight. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Councilman Bower. Council Small. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh number three on my agenda for Oregon, Fire and EMS on October 28th from 6th to 7:30 will be an annual trunk retreat. All are welcome. And uh just around the corner, I started
announcing it in July, but here we are. November 29th, our annual, uh, Woodbridge Township of Light Parade. Uh, bigger and better than ever. It grows every year. Um, kicking off at 6:00 right on Main Street. And you can look on the town website to see where the
parade same, it's been the same route for the last few years, but we also included estimated times. We know people sometimes have some uh people over, some parties, so you can pretty much base uh when the party when the uh parade's going to hit your area. Uh, that's all I
have. Mr. President, God bless America. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman Small. Councilwoman Hast. >> Thank you, Council President. First, I would like to congratulate our Woodbridge Police Department on a successful Coptoberfest. Um then I want to move down to the
library. The library is hosting um an AARP, the American Association of Retired Persons, will present a program on public benefits for older persons at the main library Wednesday, October 29th at 100 p.m. Again, they the speaker will
give an overview of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistant Program, affordable connectiv connectivity program, lowincome home energy assistant program, Medicare savings programs, and the Medicare Extra Health Plan. Again, this is at the main library on Wednesday,
October 29th at 1 p.m. And then I just want to say something about community policing. It's on my agenda and it is one of the most fantastic programs that our Woodbridge Police Department has. The two detectives visit all of our schools and it is they do what community policing says, forming relationships
within the community. And I think it's so important especially to visit our schools because we want the young men and women in our school districts to know our police officers to have positive interaction with our police officers to have just know that they're
our friends and that they're there to help not only with our youth but they visit all of our senior centers. They go to all of our events. So they are doing what they're supposed to do. They are part of our community by attending all of our events. and it is they are doing
a fantastic job just in case anybody has any doubt about it. Um if you want to come and talk to me about it, I'll be more than willing and happy to talk to you about it. But the community police department, community policing, they are doing what they're supposed to be doing and they do a great job at it. That is all that I have to say. Thank you.
>> Well said, Councilwoman Asus. Thank you, Councilwoman. >> Thank you, Council President. I'd just like to back up with that, too. um community affairs and policing. They really help us when we have issues with neighbors and we can't handle the issues oursel. They go out and they talk to the neighbors and they really do so much for
our community. So that program is really vital to our community. I my agenda is in order. I just want to thank um everybody that came out to join us for our annual Colonia Breast Cancer Walk and Charity October Fest. Despite the weather, both events were a huge
success. Thank you to all the volunteers, especially the Colonia VFW that that not only cooked all day and shopped and set up the day before they stayed up late to clean up. My amazing group of friends who worked all day long non-stop. Um even before the event, it
takes a lot of time to do these events. Um Joe Canals for supplying the wine. my council me Bower and um Brian Small Supply who sponsored our beer truck and served our guests all day. And um
Councilman uh what else? Uh Councilman Dan Harris who served all our guests soft drinks and sponsored that and Sharon Mclloff who stayed all day long and pretty much ran around and did everything I did. They spent their entire Saturday with me
helping our community. So, I really appreciate and my councilmates that couldn't be there. I know you had other things, but I know you supported our event. So, thank you for that. Um, and just thank you. Thank you to everybody that attended, donated a basket, or simply walked in our breast cancer walk
in support of all those who that who have been touched by cancer. We had hundreds of walkers that day. And they say it takes a village, and it truly does. Also, thank you to Woolbridge PD and Colonia Fire Department who led us down the Inman Avenue that day to keep
all our walkers safe. The spirit of our community when they come together to support each other is unmatched. Thank you so much to everybody that helped these three families that day. It truly was a humbling day for them and it mattered very much to those families to be showered in the love and kindness of
our community. So, thank you to everybody that helped. It really truly mattered and we were able to help them. So that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, uh, Councilwoman Han, as always. Great job. Great event for a great cause. Thank you. Uh, Councilman Harris. >> Thank you, Mr. President. I just have a
few items here. I just wanted to respond to one of the constituents who brought up uh how the pilot revenue doesn't benefit schools. I uh I don't know how many times we we have to continue to talk about this because it's such a good thing. It's a highlight. Uh uh so I don't know how it could be misconstrued
after all these years, but annually the school district, excuse me, the township contributed $7 million to the debt service that the school district has incurred as a result of the 2017 and 2020 bond referendum where the school district borrowed about $145 million.
They got about 13 million from the state uh and did not impact the school district budget. And with that $145 million, among other things, the school district was able to replace school 11, the second oldest school in the school
district, and major additions onto Woodbridge Middle School, uh, Avan School 4 and five, which is nearly completely replaced, and major additions onto school 25, school 28, uh, as well as the, uh, leasing and subleas leasing
of school 29, uh, at least by from the Catholic Church, the school district, and uh undergone a rehabilitation that enabled us to offer a full day kindergarten. So when I hear pilot revenue doesn't benefit the school district, it it it's really frustrating
to hear that because it's simply not true. And uh you know the pilot revenue does support our school districts with no impact to the school district's regular regular operating budget. I just wanted to throw that out there in the event that there there's any further confusion. I'd be happy to answer any
questions. after 12 and a half years working as a school board member working with this administration and this council. Uh I I can answer any questions if there's there's any continued uh confusion or or or or just general concerns or questions. Uh nextly item
number two. I've repeated this uh numer number of times over the past couple months, but the deadline is finally here. Uh Halloween October 31st, the deadline for constituents. uh whether you are a senior homeowner, senior renter, non senior renter, non- senior homeowner, is the deadline for the
state's joint uh joint property tax relief applications known as the PAS1 or the ANC1 for for non seniors. Uh it's property direct property tax relief that you could apply for. You could do that online at property taxreapp.nj.gov.
You can f fill that out at your leisure between now and next Friday the 31st or you can call Senator Vitali and Speaker Coughlin's office if you need assistance or have any questions at 7328557441. And then uh two other quick uh uh shout outs here. Uh item number five from the
mayor my mayor's wellness committee that I have the privilege of chairing with uh some some fabulous members of the community. We had a great meeting recently and launched with the help of the office of sustainability, the youth leadership council, and the mayor's office. We launched the hit the trail
passport program sponsored by Wegman Supermarkets where it encourages township residents to hit one of our 10 trails here in Woodward Township. Whether that's the Middle Sex County Greenway, one of the four county parks, or one of the high school tracks, uh there's an incentive to do it. If you
complete six of the 10 trails uh using your passport that you can find here at town hall or at Wakeman's, you could automatically win a Wegman's uh shopping bag or you can be entered in to win a prize at Wegman's and those are gift cards. Uh so that's an exciting uh
opportunity uh to keep your keep your uh your grocery bills down. So take a look into that. Again, those passports are located here at town hall or Wakeman's. And finally, I I had also mentioned this last meeting uh under item number 13 on my agenda, township communications. Uh
each Friday, the mayor provides a uh three to four minute update uh of all kinds of things going on the weekend and the following week. Uh residents can sign up for this uh this service free of charge. It's a uh automatic call to your to your phone on a Friday afternoon.
It's known as code red. You just need to go to the township's website where you can sign up for it. It's located uh towards the top, the very far right under the name Code Red. You can get that uh that fantastic update. Thank you very much, Council President. Appreciate it. >> Thank you, Councilman Harrison. Mr. M. I just forgot one thing. I'm sorry. Uh
election day in two weeks. Um residents in Avenue that use school 4 and 5. That's mostly 32, 35, 37, and 310. Uh you will be able normally use door three on South Avenue opposite artistic doors in Abbey Lumber. Uh this year, you'll be able to access the school since school
is off obviously. Uh you can use the construction entrance that is located on South Lman Avenue directly across from Abby Lumber's second warehouse. You're going to be looking for door six which leads you right to the new gym. Go see the brand new gym phenomenal. Just
reminder to door six next to the door. Thank you Mr. Thank you, Mr. President. Just a couple comments on item number police department. I may have one of these investigations wrapped up before your next meeting. I'll drop down to election and I went over
the vacation center opens this weekend [Music] only the mail and ballot drop boxes are open they'll remain open till 8:00 p.m. on election night again that's at the main library as well as all >> business
Mr. Thank you, council president. I have one item on my agenda this evening for resolution next next meeting is a tax and sewer overpayment refunds. Thank you, council president. >> Sir, please direct. >> Thank you, Council President. My agenda, I have a handicap parking space
on Russell Street and two handicap parking spaces. One on street and one on Thank you. >> Thank you, director. Planning and director planning and development director Dor. Thank you, director of public works director, director. >> Thank you. Consequent
resolution. First one to change order number 78 9 10 11 13 16 that was for contract 2014 that was underground utilities uh
corporation and that's corrosion called interceptor line. Second item I have is an NJP change order number one and two contract number 21 2021
for CPS. >> Thank you director legal nothing look. Thank you. Look for a motion. Motion second meeting and journ. Thank you. Have a good night. Enjoy Halloween.