recording in progress. Okay, I call to order the November 3rd, 2025 meeting of the Yarmmouth Board of Health. Um, just one point to make about the meeting is it's a hybrid meeting. So, people could
call in, watch it on Zoom, and participate that way. um for attendance. Charlie, are you here? Go for it. Say yes. Here something >> here. >> Great. There's one. Larry >> here. >> Hillard. >> Mary,
I think Mary's calling in. Is she on mute? Mary, Eric, do this and see if Mary's looking at us. Okay, >> Eric, you're still you're still here. >> Well, we certainly have a quorum. It
would be nice if we could help Mary here a little bit. Um, >> Mary, raise her hand. >> Mary says she's here. She's raised her hand. >> Okay, we can feel it now. Great. Okay, next up is the public comment.
As usual, if there's anyone in the public, anyone at home or wherever you're watching it or here in the crowd we have in front of us tonight. >> I don't see any hands. Re >> I don't
Okay, move on to number four. and it's saying smoke detector awareness and education Yarmouth Fire Department is what I have listed here as the fourth item on the agenda. >> Hopefully we have Lieutenant Matt Beerus
as one of the panelist. He can [Applause] be out on a call. I don't know. >> So he's coming via remote. I thought he was coming in >> but he might be out of call. So why
don't we Okay. Um for sure those calls can come up the fire department. Okay. Um so why don't we just move ahead then we can always go back. So item number six is 24 G Street. This is a variance request for a septic system.
Um Barry just want to introduce us to the case. >> Yeah. Um this is for 24 Grove Street and uh Westarmouth. This is Dave. He's a RS from Ecotech Response. Dave's been a RS
installer for many years. Um, we went out to do a perk test at this uh particular lot and it's a very tight lot and which is not unusual, but on one of the more unusual things is there's
already an accessory dwelling unit on it on the property. Um, so to get that all up to code, uh, talking to Dave, he put a proposal together. Normally, if there was like one variance or two, I would be
happy to do it over the counter, but we have four variances going on. I'm going to have Dave uh kind of go over what each variance is for, and we'll be good to go from there. >> Okay. Well, uh, Dave Kogan hour from Ecote Tech. Uh, >> welcome. This is kind of the this in
this neighborhood there are lots of these older um properties that are on small lots and back then just assess pool worked and um this garage in back goes back to I think
1961 and originally it was just the blue concrete and then at some point it got added on to and um it was it's been in the family for a long long time. So, um
there was never any need for review. But now that the cess poolools are starting to fail, the owners have realized that they need to come to grips with the situation here. Um and they hired me to um to design a system. So, uh, after
balancing out how what systems we could get in and still, you know, not, uh, interfere with the water or the gas, uh, this is what I came up with. Um, and
these are the variances I need to squeeze it in. Dave, there's there's literally no other place on this property to >> No, I discussed perhaps putting the um septic tank where the um cesspools
currently are in that section of the yard, but the there's a fence along the um the eastern line. I talked to the a backo uh installer and he said trying to get anything between the bulkhead and
that um dwelling was going to be extremely difficult. Um >> okay. And also the um piping then you would have the piping kind of like in a it's already going to I've already simplified it as best I can but um
putting it something back there would have been a very confusing awkward um spaghetti of piping. So um um how do you how do they plan on since it's so tight back there? How do they plan on abandoning the the existing
pits? So, they're just going to fill them in by hand or they get a Can they get a small excavator in there to >> I'm imagining that like with a uh they can probably get like a bobcat through there. Okay. >> And then a machine can probably make a
pile and then the bobcat move it around. >> Thank you, >> David. Is there water to that existing one-bedroom dwelling? There is, but and I know where it comes out of the um twobedroom dwelling, but since there's
not any basement I can get into in the back one, I'm it's a mystery how it goes. But it does go between those two. Um like if you look at the bulkhead on the main dwelling, it's to the right of that
and probably goes into the corner somewhere there. Um and also this configuration avoids that um in that it avoids conflicting with that water line.
>> Say that again, sir. Um, since if we're not going to put the tank in the backyard where the cess pools are, that eliminates the conflict of that rear water line with any sewer lines going to a septic tank or leeching.
>> Right. >> I see you also got back um eight um certification receipts. Yeah, >> we're there. >> So, and no, I haven't had any calls from anybody. Riley, have you had any calls? So, no, we're
>> I had one call and I explained that it was for septic variances and that's all the >> though that existing one-bedroom dwelling that'll connect to that system as well. >> Correct. the um it's again I'm not sure
how they're going to get the piping over there but um because I well I imagine they might have to remove the floor then dig under each of the joists and then run a pipe that way.
The whole um structure is in need of um renovation anyway. And I see you are putting in a two compartment tank since it is >> correct. >> Two different buildings uh 1500 gallon was that,500. >> Yep.
>> Perfect. Thank you. >> On the back here I think. Yeah. >> So just uh the audience and people watching if you are thinking about putting in an ADU, one of the things that you >> Excuse me. Just tell people what that
means. uh accessory dwelling unit, a second living on your property. Um it's doable now through Mass. Um Massachusetts new laws. However, in zone twos in Mass in Yarmouth, we're not allowing additional bedrooms. Uh but if
you do decide you can lose a bedroom, but on a regular system, you're going to have to upgrade your septic system to two system, two tanks in series or a two compartment septic tank. So that's one of the questions that I get asked a lot almost every day when people come in. So
I know it has nothing to do with this, but I just wanted to bring it up for the audience. So >> I get it with regulation. >> Yeah, I have a question there. In the legend, I see existing leech pit cesspool,
right? And I can see that on the on the map, but then there's a secondary uh cesspool with a question mark in it. >> Right down in that part of the lot, there's a um suspicious depression maybe like 8 10 in. And I since there's no
records on what went in when I suspect that it could be and I just indicated that so that the uh cesspool doesn't inadvertently get left unfilled. It might be nothing too
but it's something I want them to check out. >> Some kind of burial. >> Maybe it's stumps or something. This is the most colorful septic plan I've seen in my uh time here on the board.
>> I would compliment them for this. Yeah. It makes it a lot easier to read them. It does. Seriously. >> Yeah. And I like the size. It doesn't >> I That's why I went with the color cuz so it would be understandable even for people who aren't, you know, in the
trade to know what's going on. So Barry, the Barry, that ADU that's there now, is that a permitted dwelling? >> Uh, it it's known through the town, but they're not renting it. It's family, so
it's But yeah, so it'll be a legal with the proper septic and everything. It It'll be one up to code for us. >> So, and for what we can do on this tiny tiny posted stamp them a lot. I mean, I think
Dave came up with a great solution. So, >> yeah, I agree. The only alternative would be close tank, I guess. Yeah, which is, you know, I wouldn't support that. I mean, >> certainly going to improve the cesspool. >> Mary, do you have something?
>> Yeah, I have a couple questions. Um, you said that is a Yarmouth regulation about the two tanks. No, the that's a state regulation. That's a mass title five regulation. The Yarmouth regulation
is no additional bedrooms in a zone two. >> Um secondly, um how many homes along that street are still cesspoolled? that I don't I would have to >> I I I only know that the next door
neighbors to the west they had a upgraded system cuz I wanted to check their soil conditions that they found there. But um >> it's a very small road. I think there might be >> 10 houses at most. Yeah.
>> But it's right on the water. >> No, it's set back. There's a street that goes by the water and this is on the far side of that. >> It's probably 300 yards from the water. >> Yeah, sure. >> At least. >> Right. I I didn't mean literally on the
water but very close. Um and the last question um there's there's eight of Butters that answered but not all of them. And what is the policy regarding that? >> Did you get all eight back? No, but
oftent times I don't get all eight back, but I do have the white um invoice, the white uh slips showing. Do >> you get the actual butters from the What numbers would that been?
>> Yeah. So, I think they go in order. >> Yeah, there is a 22 and I didn't go any further. And there may be obviously a house behind it. So, they really I I think they're only three. I think >> these are all the people I notified.
>> They had a whole list though. They had a whole list, a whole page of a buddy. >> Well, the town gave me the all abutters within 100 ft. But for this particular uh request, we only need direct abutters, which
>> looks like four then. Yeah. So, do what happens if those four haven't responded, Barry? We can check to see. >> It's also possible that I'll get them in the next day or two. >> A lot of those are >> Yeah.
>> seasonal and it might and they might be gone >> and I'll get a some of them back undeliverable. >> Yeah. >> Um but I think they have to make three tries. >> Yeah. The majority on the list uh have
addresses off cave. Yeah. By far. Um so the issue is those four lots as I see it. So I mean at some point you need to make a motion regardless of how we're going to about it. It certainly should include that um
we do receive uh I guess something from the neighbors. Um >> I would think neighbors would be happy that it was being sewered and that there was not going to be a malfunctioning cesspool there.
Uh for sure. Okay. So this I see 27 Grove. What else do we have that we've received back? >> Um let's see >> from your uh Dave from your
>> Yeah. >> map you have right here. What's that? What are those address to the right? >> Sorry. >> That one. What? So, what are the numbers on that one? >> Um, 131 is immediately to the north.
129 is immediately to the south. See, 131 is Coleman. Here's Coleman. 129
is Coffee. I don't have that. That's that's Paul. He's works here in our IT department. He came down today, talked to me, and he said he has no issues with it. So, >> okay. Um, and then what are the other two
in question? >> Yeah. >> Well, you're looking for a total of four. I am. I mean, if someone's cross the street, I mean, is it required that they're notified? >> No, that's not a direct butter. >> Yeah, I don't think so. So, it's just those four homes. So 1271
Gaylord right here and 126 Flores I don't have. >> So you have three of the four. >> Well, two of the four plus the one >> was a verbal, >> right? So there's only the one remaining
and that could still come in. >> So how do we handle that? and he sent him out in a timely fashion that we got him back. So, >> well, you just said it. You have to make three attempts.
>> Well, the um postal service makes three attempts. >> Okay. >> To get a signature. >> Do they let you know that they've made the three attempts? How do you know? Um well then if they've made it unsuccessfully I'll get the whole letter
back and it'll have a stamp on their undeliverable or they have a checklist for one of the reasons made three attempts nobody picked it up but it will get sent back to me. However, sometimes I do get my
neighbors mail and I understand that sometimes my neighbors probably get my mail and that there is also a possibility that one of these simply won't come back to me. >> And they don't go directly from West Armouth to your address. They go all the
way to Providence, Rhode Island, and back here. It's a >> Right. So, >> it could take two months. >> Yeah. I mean, I I I had a in incident not too long ago and it took two months for them to for the uh card to get back
to me. >> Well, in other towns they they accept the white slips as um proof, but I know all towns are different. So, Can I ask a question? >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what you're here for. Do >> we uh
have to have all the neighbors permission for you to do septic? >> No, they just have to be able to respond and say if it somehow impacts them. But the thing is everyone in this
neighborhood is in the same boat and they'll eventually be need be coming up in front of you too in CA if they haven't already. >> What's that? >> Got to have all the neighbors to respond so he can upgrade his septic system.
>> No, they don't have to approve. Just be given the opportunity to speak. >> And you've already done that, correct? Correct. Well, with these white slips, I've sent out the notification. >> The white ones are the official that they've actually been sent out by the US
Post Office. >> I mean, >> stamped with a post office seal and the date it went out. And I've got the receipt from the post office here, too. >> Everything goes on hold because one hasn't gotten back to you.
>> No, we didn't say that. >> We haven't decided that yet, Charlie. >> Are you kidding me? I mean one of the concerns I mean what would happen if if you start investing all you the owner thousands of dollars in working on the property and someone comes forward I
wasn't notified >> well what happens then what happens >> what would be their complaint I mean what would be an issue that we would that would affect our decision >> we we probably wouldn't change our decision right this is better for the
groundwater here than what they have there >> um I don't know What else could that person delay it for months? Whatever goes to court, whatever. I'm just taking down trying to prevent anything from getting in the way. That's all. Um to protect the owner and I guess protect
the board. Um yeah, I the system seems welld designed and we don't have a lot of options for this property. That's for sure. >> So >> I think as Barry said, it would be an improvement on what's there
>> 100%. Yeah. Anybody else any questions, comments? If not, let's get >> I just have one more question. In the notes, um, it says protect water supply line using approved sleeving technique. Can you just explain what that means? Um
well like one way might be to cut the um water line in two places or in one place and then put on a pressure pipe so that any leaking affluent does not get it's protected in case there's a hole in that
water line. So this is the water line that currently supplies the cess poolool >> right from the >> drinking water. >> That that W line is the drinking water to the home, >> right? >> Yeah, I understand that. But in the notes, is it referring to the service
line of water to the house or >> that blue line that's indicated cutting across the driveway would be >> okay >> where it would be sleeve. >> And you also see the the dotted blue line that curves around it. That's a 40 millimeter uh poly liner. That's a
double insurance. >> Yep. >> To keep it from going into the house and stuff. >> Okay. Anybody? Anything else? No. Why don't we move along on this? >> I uh move that we approve the four
variances requested at 24 Grove Street. Second. >> Any further discussion? Anyone? >> Second. >> See, there's none. We are. Okay. So, let's vote. All in favor of granting the variances in this motion, just raise
your hand, say I. >> I. >> I. >> Okay. Passes. >> Okay. Good luck with the work. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. I'll see you Wednesday. >> Yeah. At the meeting. >> Thanks for that great diagram. That's
>> Oh, no worries. >> Well illustrated. >> Yes. >> Yeah. The garbage grinder I think was the nicest part of it that you did with the line through it. The red line. >> They claim you didn't see it. >> That's correct.
>> Thank you and have a good >> take care of me. >> You too. >> Okay. Any word out there from um fire department? Not yet. Nothing. Okay. >> Okay. We're up to number seven, the plastic product waiver review. So, in
your packet, we saw the uh the request form. Is that what we're directing our >> Yes. Uh Hillary, so we had a couple last meeting, we had a couple of uh small changes um that Mary wanted. we went ahead and
put those uh changes in there. I don't know if anybody else has any changes that they would like to bring up right now. Be more than happy to look at it. So, >> anyone reviewing it? Mary, anything?
>> Yeah. No. Um the the only question I had is at Well, I do have something on the second page, the back page. Um the last block um it says, "Do you have plans to phase out this product in the
future?" But you've given them the option of listing four products that they're requesting a waiver for on the form. So, what that's saying, it's at the top of that block, it says, "Please list other steps your business is taking to
reduce plastic uses." They'll list their steps and then do you have plans to phase out this product in the future? So, as of say they're asking for a waiver now, but they know in six months that there's going to be a new product
coming out that they're going to be accessible to. So, that's kind of our thinking on that. and that, but you've given them the opportunity to ask for four different waivers, four product waivers.
So, which waiver are they answering when it says, "Do you have plans to phase out this product in the future?" Which one? One, two, three, or four? Go ahead. >> I can expand I don't know. >> You see what I'm saying? >> Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I
can expand that column on the second page and add um a part where they can like designate which item they're talking about. Just make it a little bit bigger of a space. >> That that makes more sense. I'm hoping
we get don't get too many that they use up all four. But if they do, then they're going to have to designate which which ones they're planning to. And it should be all of them. I would expect I would hope. >> Yeah.
>> Thank you. >> Uh one point I had was just on the title of it. It's saying up on top front page there plastic product waiver request form and the question I have is should it say waiver/variance or not? Um
in that really the paragraph below says you must apply for board of health variance. So, um, if someone is looking for a variance or a waiver,
they need to fill out the same form. Is that correct? >> We have a different form for variance. Yeah. So, she has a different form for variance. >> Okay. >> Is it the same, but it just has a different title? >> It's on the town website under the
health department. We have the board of health hearing checklist and a variance application on there and that's for it's a general application for any variance but there's different sections where you can check like whether it's septic or
other which would be plastic and then there's you can explain what you're looking for a variance for. So we would have them fill that out. >> Okay. >> So okay. So where it says just once again in that first paragraph up on top it says if you're seeking relief for
plastic products classified under resin identification code 3467 you must apply for a board of health variance. So does that mean someone's going to have to fill this form out for a waiver as well as a variance? We we've well
certainly Mary more than anyone else who've been involved with all this. someone who's starting from scratch, we just have to make sure they understand all this. >> It does explain the different numbers and whether they are eligible for a waiver or not a waiver. So the ones that
aren't eligible for a waiver, okay, are the ones may ask about a variance except for um polyropylene. I mean um not that I mean polystyrene which isn't >> okay.
Okay. >> But but you know, hopefully they they can figure that out. >> Okay. >> Maybe you could just add for a for a board of health variance using a different form.
How about that? Or using the variance form online. >> Yeah. >> Variant online. Yeah, the ladder sounds better. That's that's a good idea, Mary. >> That that would be simple to add there. It should fit without adding a line.
>> Mary, just a question. On on the uh back page there above signature, it says duration of waiver requested. What did you have in mind for seasonal? What would be the scenario there? >> Right. Would you say that? you know, May
31st to Labor Day, >> right, Barry? Is that what you'd consider? >> That's what I would consider. Yeah. >> So, it would be the upandcoming season, >> the summer season, the up and cominging summer season.
So, do we want to put in up and coming and before seasonal? Up and cominging season >> or summer seasonal >> summer season? No, all this summer season. >> The upcoming summer season. Yes.
>> Okay, that that's a little Yeah, that's better. Thanks. >> Anyone else? Anything? This looks great to me. Eric, anything? Right. So, we we'll redo that and put it on
next month's agenda. Um, we do have a video that uh was put together by the town um about the plastic reduction. Yes. About the plastic reduction ban. Um we'll play it for you guys real quick. It's just a few minutes long.
>> But you said it wasn't very good. >> I did I'll get your opinion afterwards. That's why I'm showing it right now. >> Yeah. I haven't seen it either, Mary. But that's why we're showing it. Let's see what's >> Have you seen it, Mary? >> No, I can't see it. >> No. Have you seen it yet? >> No, there's no way to see it. Oh, I I I
didn't realize it was on the website already. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I didn't either. Okay, >> Riley, thanks for getting this together quickly. I know we just asked for it. >> Yeah, I might need Liam to assist.
>> Liam, come on out. Do I have to do it? might want to start over. Liam, >> make sure the sound Love them. ICS have been a part of it. Thank you, Liam.
>> Yep. >> Wait one second. >> Of their existence, plastics have been a part of the day-to-day human experience for over 50 years in some capacity. It's one reason that a 7-day a week operation like the transfer station here in
Yarmouth will see people pulling through this area on any one of those seven days to unload their plastic recyclables. Since the advent of dual stream recycling, where multiple types of recyclable materials are combined in one container, the industry has seen a greatly increased market share of
participants, and that's a net positive. It means that much more recyclable material is staying out of the landfills. The containers when they're full average a weight of about eight tons. The containers of recycling is typically plastic, glass, and tin. So
those are combined together in a co-mingled container. They go up to our commercial transfer station. They get picked up there and they get hauled to the recycler which is called E Harvey. >> In spite of the increased efforts by the recycling community, a 2018 national
study by the EPA shows that plastics still make up over 12% of all municipal solid waste. Some of the plastics that comprise that percentage are nonrecyclable and come from the deli and bakery sections of supermarkets as well as to-go containers and cutlery from
restaurants. Many opponents to these plastics see it not only as an environmental issue but a health issue as well. >> When you are eating with plastic, you are eating plastic. And the chemicals in plastic too. The chem chemicals leech from the plastic
into your food and you're ingesting it. And that's scary. >> There was enough momentum to curb the amount of plastic used in Yarmouth that in April of 2023, a plastic reduction bylaw was passed which targeted single-use food containers and utensils
as well as single-use plastic water bottles. Support for that measure came from Liz Argo, who can often be found walking the shores of Volins Pond with her little friend. I spoke at that meeting because I walk this beach and I
pick up plastics and I just all I said I said there's plastics everywhere. We need to do something. And it was uh the town said yes, let's ban plastics. >> Restaurant owners in town may not have been as thrilled about the proposed
measure. >> Initial reaction to the proposal was a little bit of shock. we just weren't sure how we were going to manage our day-to-day operations. Um, but now I believe there's a group of people in the town who are working to make it a little
bit more achievable, just a step-by-step process. Uh, I do think eventually reducing the amount of plastic that we use just in day-to-day life is a good thing. I just don't know if we're starting in the right place. >> While a restaurant like Cath Parkers does a majority of in-house dining,
there are those times when customers want their food to go. The cost of complying comes with an increased price tag. >> When it comes to takeout operations, it will be very difficult. A lot of our guests will take food to go. They'll go to the beach and eat it. So, they need
plastic utensils, napkins, bags, to-go containers, things like that. Um, and a lot of our options do comply. It's a lot of paper and recyclable material, but there are a lot of things that are still plastic. So, when we looked into
making some changes, it's just very costly for the the business. >> That additional cost would also apply to all of the other restaurants within striking distance of Captain Parkers and beyond if the bylaw stands and goes into effect on January 1st, 2026. However, on
October 10th, 2025, the town of Yarmouth adopted a new regulation that would not only ease the burden on local businesses, best satisfy even the most ardent supporters of the original bylaw. So much so that they want to see that bylaw rescended and they'll have their chance to rescend it at the Yarmouth
Special Town Meeting at the Dennis Yarmouth Intermediate School on November 17th, 2025. When I was at the town meeting in the spring where the ban was approved unanimously, I was very very pleased. And in fact, that was um one of the
reasons I ran for the select board because I was so proud of my town. And I I was suspicious at the fall special town meeting when the health department and the chamber of commerce said we can't do this. But I am here to tell all
of my cohorts that this is the way to do this. We'll get there. will get plastics out of our world, but we have to go with this process rather than a complete ban. And you're hearing it from somebody who was very skeptical.
I feel like we need less plastics and I know that's why a lot of people originally wanted this bylaw to pass. We have something in place. We'll still be reducing plastic in Yarmouth if this bylaw is rescended, the original one. If
the original bylaw goes into effect, it's going to make life a lot harder for businesses. [Music] >> So, I guess the message out there, I don't know if it's what I would have done. I mean, what
what you the board think? I I I Yeah, I thought it could have been done much better. And especially that very last message. It's going to make things a lot harder for business. Going to make things a lot
harder for everybody. >> But it's going to be easier than the other option. >> No, she said if the if the bylaw does not get rescended, it's going to be harder for businesses. >> Yes. Yes.
>> And I It's going to be harder for every >> Yes. Yes. >> if if even if it's even possible. So, yeah. I I I think the the emphasis was it was too much of the
landfill in the beginning, you know, that was kind of wasted, I think, footage. Um it could have been really qu shorter. And I think much more um on the
restaurants and the supermarket. And I kind of cringed when they showed and shop as a supermarket, you know. Um when the Shaws and Petersons and other places in Yarmouth that sell food. I don't know.
I Yeah, I wouldn't have I I don't think it was as well done as it could have been. So, what do we hope to accomplish at the town meeting? I'm a little >> to get the original complete ban re uh revised,
>> right? I rescended and then that will take in our adoption of our regulation on the plastic reduction regulation that the board of health approved that we all put together which is a much more cohesive
way to do things and the other is extreme and fairly not doable and a huge effect on the community, consumers, business, everybody where the new policy, the new regulation is doable,
achievable, and has a continuous seable future. >> So, the um we're looking to have this original um >> bylaw >> bylaw rescended in place of what we proposed. Is that
>> so we can put what we proposed in place of that? >> So, is that going to be all taken care of in one meeting? >> Yes. >> And we already have ours in place. >> Yeah. It just we need the other bylaw rescended at town meeting. >> So what's the confusion then? Because
that that's how sort of I interpreted that. >> I I that we're not doing enough I don't think but we are >> not doing enough as far as what >> I the people aren't the people that will say not to resend it haven't probably
haven't been educated enough to know and that's why this video is on social media. All of our stuff is out there on social media. Our social media team is amazing what they're doing right now. They're the best on the Cape, Best in Southeast, and they're they're doing all
sorts of stuff um to promote this. So, >> so the purpose of the video is to inform people in the town about the options, >> kind of educate them. It's running continuously on channel 8. Um, it's on our YouTube channel, it's on our Facebook, it's on our Instagram pages,
it's on our website, it's on the health department's website. So, >> yeah, I I don't know if it's my place or our place to comment on the video, but I I don't think that it offers much in the way of education about the new proposed
uh >> that's my feeling also >> proposal there. There's it's complex. There was a lot of time, money, effort, and energy spent to develop it. >> And I don't think that that video accurately portrays all that went into
it and and the effect that it will have on actually reducing plastic while being, you know, um feasible for business owners and consumers. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I agree 100% with that. Yeah. A
lot of the footage in the beginning was the landfill. It's it's people know it already. It's just a lot of time on it if you really >> um and it's probably the whole thing is too long if people are going to pay attention. >> Yeah. I mean, we know we know that the
landfills full of plastic. >> Yeah. Um, but you know, but but I didn't what I didn't know was that there's seven different types of plastics and what the differences were. And you know, I didn't think about the
impact initially that a total plastic ban would have had. People aren't going to be able to buy deli meat. You know, think about any item in the grocery store that's a head of lettuce wrapped in plastic. >> And that's what >> forget about it. >> Should have been highlighted in the
video. I felt >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> First of all, no mention of the health department who's going to be responsible for running this. Um, so it's just my opinion, but I think uh the health department should get some credit for this and should be part of
the video. >> I think that group should as well that the group that presented us that gave us that presentation. >> That's Mary, myself, Jamie for that. Yeah, >> even above. >> Not looking for credit. I'm just
looking. >> They did all the work. >> We just kind of nodded our head. >> You did more than that. Trust me, you guys gave good information. So, but I just wanted I I I didn't know if you guys have seen that video yet. It just I just wanted to make sure you guys had
seen it. I had my opinions on it. I just wanted to make sure I got the board's opinions on it, too. >> Is a done deal? There's always room for change, I feel. >> Will there be somebody at the meeting to
give a presentation sort of similar to what? >> Yes. Yes. Uh Jamie and Mary will be there. I'll be there myself to give the to give the very same presentation if needed to that was given to this board that was given to the select board and
everything already. So >> that'll cover a lot of ground, I think. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's two weeks. I think some credit should go to the businesses too that really kind of >> we had two wonderful businesses that were on every set in every meeting and
the board. So >> I mean is this video is it staying up after the vote? I mean what what's what's the future of it? >> I don't know. That's up to it. I would like I would after the vote I don't know
if it would come down or not. I'll have to talk to it see what their proposals are on it. >> Certainly short and educational should be up on there. >> Yeah, >> I think >> maybe after the vote. I mean that's in two weeks. We can do another one that's
even how for the businesses to come into the health department and be able to get the variances and get the waiverss from us. So, >> right. Yeah. To talk more about the Paul R regulation because that video is it's not not going
to do much good after the town meeting when please God the the uh bylaw is rescended. Then we need to move on to well what do we have and make sure people understand. >> Yep.
Are there any more meetings scheduled for the committee? Mary, >> we we had the la the last meeting was cancelled. Um so I don't know. The the committee was planning to meet until
until the end um to try to you know keep going with education and and um community engagement. I think they're going to try to have one right before, but I don't know if we're going to be able to make it or not. So,
>> Barry, do we have to do anything else with this? >> No, I just wanted to bring it to your attention. So, >> great. Appreciate it. >> Um, I got some more new business. I gave you guys >> all your work on that. >> Well, yes, sir. >> I think we need to do the minutes first.
Oh yes. >> So that's the October 6, 2025 meetings minutes. Anybody? I have one. It's the last paragraph actually. Starts with my name.
So, it's on page two. Last item there. The last paragraph. um it just seemed like a very generalized statement the way it's written here um about speaking with health providers if you have any questions with recent public news.
Um I I what I was attempting to say at least was something very specific about the announcement that was made and that really is if um public um
>> regarding vaccinations, right? >> Uh yes. So it's No, this is taking Tylenol is what I spoke about I believe. Was that >> Oh, okay. um was I assume that's what it was. Um
October 6. So we had one more meeting October. What was the next meeting up? >> Uh next meeting was canled for the 17th or >> this this was the last meeting. >> This was the last meeting
>> I think. So that's what I mentioned about Tylenol. >> Um >> right and vaccinations. >> Right. So, it's really if people have any questions about the announcement by the federal health department
about the use of um Tylenol during pregnancy being linked to autism, you should speak with their health provider. We can go back through the video and we can >> I don't think that's
um that's really the essence of it just that it was a surprise announcement you know uh before our meeting there just about linking Tylenol to autism and certainly >> well it's gone beyond that that Texas
has a a court case regarding it. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> So, it's gone even beyond recommendations. >> Yeah. >> Gone to court with very limited I as far as I know scientific basis. >> Correct.
>> Um none that I could find or people I've actually spoken with. Um >> contrary to the medical experts. >> Yeah. Um, so I'm not sure why the evidence wasn't also presented at the time of the announcement, but um, so
people should speak with their health providers just so they have questions and just get educated about it. Um, and that's, you know, if if someone has a child with autism, um, and they, you know, the mother had taken Tylenol, then
they should, you know, speak with their health provider and find out the facts and and what's, you know, I mean, it's, I'm sure, very disturbing for people to hear about this. Okay, that was the only edit I had. Riley, it's really just one more sentence out of it. If you want some
help, like I can give you after the meeting if you need it. Should be pretty simple. Okay. So, um, anyone make a motion here about the minutes? >> I make a motion that we accept the minutes of the October 6th meeting
except for the um sentence you'd like added. >> Okay. >> Or you feel it's necessary to add. Yeah. Fine. It's fine. Okay. Second. Thank you. Anything else on it, Mary? Questions, comments? No. All in favor?
Passing minutes? Yep. That's all. Mary, you're up on on it. That's That's That's a thumbs up. That's 5-0. So, that's done. Okay, great. >> Uh Barry, now new and old. I know there are a few things.
>> Yeah, I got a couple things for new and old. you guys have your uh meeting agenda for the rest of the uh year um in front of you. So that there's just one the November 17th men uh meeting had been cancelled
because that's town meeting and we'll that trumps our meeting. So I'll be at that one. >> Okay. >> Force. So that one's good. Um the next thing we had uh recently had the flu clinic at the senior center. We had uh
51 uh participants which was up from last year at 32 which is good. So I was very happy with that. Uh Mary, thank you for coming to get your shot also again this year.
>> Pleasure. >> Um quick and easy that it was very organized. It was um well flow. no backups. So, it was nice. Um the my next thing is November is diabetes awareness
month and here in town hall we are doing A1 A1C screenings. November 14th from 1:30 to 3:30 here in the town hall. Um we have these QR codes all over the place. Um you can scan. We've also done
simpler ones at like the senior center and stuff like that because a lot of the participants over the senior center don't use QR codes so they can have flyers over there. So come get a free uh A1C screening here at town hall >> which just so the public is aware of it.
That's just a test to see what your average blood glucose level was over the previous couple of months as opposed to u just get getting a blood glucose level by itself. It just measures what the glucose was at
the time that the specimen was drawn. So it's much more advanced kind of uh blood test and it's great to show an average like that. So >> nice. >> Great doing it. That's that. Um the
county is also, which is a very big one, is having their uh next session of uh buried and treasure classes for people who have a compulsive acquiring uh savings and hoarding. Uh they're two
hours per week. It's a 16week commitment. It's kind of big, but they work with the senior center to get people there. Um, we're going to have somebody from the county come talk to it, but there's a a big meeting for the county tonight. But again, this is on our website. This is on the county
website for anybody that has family members or neighbors or yourself, a loved one has any uh excessive collecting hoarding issues. It's a very good program. It's not intense. It's
not. It just helps them work through their issues and kind of see the bigger picture and how to deal with the clutter and where to go with it. So, it's kind of a great program on that one. Um, next thing I have I put in front of
you guys the um we all know with what's going on with the government shutting down the uh on our website also there's a list from Cape Cod Community College of sources to get um for food aid uh
list of bank food banks and stuff like that and also to Barsville County. Um Barsville County launches information resource for SNAP HIPP food assistance points for local food pantries. That's on their website. That's on our website. It's kind of a big deal right now.
There's a lot of federal agents, federal employees who aren't getting paychecks that um are looking forward that to the resources. I was talking to the uh what was known as the Yarmouth food pantry
now called Cape Cod Pantry. Uh she said the last time this happened, surprisingly there was a lot of uh airport uh staff that TSA agents that all of a sudden got cut that were were coming in and signing up. She said last
week they did 57 B 57 families. She thinks they'll do a lot more this this time. Um, she said before a lot of people were going, they're all eligible for twice a month. A lot of them were only coming the once, but she feels now with everything that's going on that
they'll be coming more often. She would like to come talk to us at probably our next meeting or a meeting. They have all their their board meetings the same night ours, the first Monday of every month. So maybe one of our odd ones, she'll be able to come in and talk to us
just to see how they're doing and just give us updates of what we could do to help with the uh with this community. So >> just so uh the community knows, I have the schedule here. I'll just read it so anyone who's listening uh can see
they're open several days. Um they're located at 845 Route 28. Uh that's in South Yarmouth. That's what apparently is the lighthouse landing plaza. So they're open Tuesday from 5:30 to 6:30. Thursday 5:30 to
6:30. Second Friday of the month is 3 to 4. Third Saturday is 10 to 11. Fourth Friday is 10 to 11. And it's seniors only the second and fourth Wednesday from noon from 10 to noon.
Uh but they have their own website, right? Yep. >> So people can check check that out. Obviously, if you go on to their website, you will register your family. Um and they you'll get a little pin that when you go in, you just give them that that information and they'll check you
in. You can check off what you want in your bag and what you need and what you don't need. So you're not getting stuff that's you don't need that's going to waste. So >> yeah, things are tight. I mean, the heating bills are going to start to go
up. Certainly in grocery stores, food's more expensive. So, um, it's nice we have a pantry this close. >> And if we have to cut 30% of all the products in the grocery stores, the prices of the other remainings are going to go up even more. So, it all goes hand
in hand. >> Okay. And I think you have something from uh from Roi. >> Yep. So, hold on. Yes. Are we moving away from food? >> Yeah. >> I just wanted to share um at the Cape
Cut Tech, we had um the founder of the family pantry uh visited and um I give them a lot of credit. They're they have a number that you can call or text and they'll bring prepared food right either to your house or to a
central location like a Council on Aging Place or community center. And um they're really interesting approach. They're they're kind of full circle. So they're collecting food waste. Uh Whole Foods is
their largest supplier of um food that's about to expire and they take it and turn it into healthy meals to distribute free to the community. So, and they they really um you know, they'll provide food right
away, but they also have cooking classes, nutritional classes, and things like that to help kind of sustain and support people in the long term rather than just providing food once. So, um
really interesting, uh great thing for the community. >> Thanks. Yeah, we're talking about a lot of kids, a lot of veterans, disabled people. I mean it's just we're really depend upon this. I mean it's good to local food state local food possible. Um so last week you
asked um me helard how many licensed applicators there were in town for herbicides and pesticides. So I knew the golf course has six for both courses. I didn't know how much for the town. So, I reached out to the town um parks and
cemetery division have two employees with pesticides license. Um they have I'm not going to read that part. They only apply pesticide using integrated pest management and rarely apply any. The division also contracts
with True Green for services of fertilizer pesticides on few properties with some receiving organic applications. Only licensed pesticide applicators apply pesticides for the department. So again, they're not getting the the summer
seasonal kid say, "Hey, we got a bunch of weeds over on Buck Island Road. Take this jug and get rid of it." It's only the license applicators who know how to properly apply it are using it on town properties. So, which is good to know.
So, >> okay. You also were notified today about the town of Borne. >> Yep. So, the last thing we have, um, I might turn this over to
Riley, but, uh, Riley brought to my attention today, the just this today or last week, born board of health regulation prohibiting the manufacturing, sale, and distribution of synthetically derived cannibids and
is that how you say it? >> Um, it's an over-thecounter thing. you get it at at uh gas stations and grocery grocery stores. It looks like the 5h hour energy drink. They're highly addictive. They're
I I'm not like literally we just got this at 2:00 today. I'm not huge on this, but they just put a ban on it in um and born and I know some other towns are going along with a ban. Have you ever heard of this stuff called?
Yeah, this was from uh it's from Souththeast Asia from some plant that grows there and it's low doses it's a stimulant. At high doses it's more like an opioid. Um lot of side effects uh including
withdrawal. So it's something I think board should look into. Um maybe we can take a look at what board has done already. >> Yep. >> Wait. I think the synthetic um but I
don't think we said anything about plant-based when we did our policy the last time. >> Yeah, we'll have to look at it. And oddly enough, I I've never heard of this and we got a call from a parent last week asking or telling us that her son
has been addicted to this for about six months. um is in rehab. His health has gone completely downhill and she was wanting to know what we do about it and I kind of was like I don't know and did
a little bit of research and then this that was what Thursday she called so and I was off that class Friday so and then this came up today from Bourne. So, I definitely find it should be um brought to front of the board's attention to
maybe follow uh Borne's footsteps and we can look into putting a regulation together for and it's this is just discussion tonight, but it's from what I know it's not good stuff. So, >> yeah. So, we'll put on the agenda. Let's
if you can come up with some copies of other towns that have already done it, it would save us a lot of time if we decide to to move on it. >> Yeah. Uh >> Barry, do you know if it's on the shelves here in Yarmouth now? >> Yes. And you can go to any gas station like when you're checking out, you know, you see those little five hour that's
probably even at Ocean State job. It's at the checkout line. Hey, boost of energy. Take this all natural plant-based, which means nothing. I see. And then people take it and a little is
a little but then they need more and more and more and costing people thousands and thousands of dollars. So we'll definitely put on the agenda for next time. I just have one one comment um just as a member of the board and I'm speaking for
the board and there was another surprising announcement by the um healthy human uh resources uh secretary uh Kennedy announcing that
there's a connection between circumcision and autism. Yeah. >> Um, >> yes. >> Medical community was not aware of that connection and does it really exist?
There really doesn't seem to be any studies that are supporting that. So, um, just to speak to people who are listening, um, that if you have a child who's on the spectrum, you has autism
and the child was circumcised um, and you're concerned about that, you should speak to the health provider that you use to learn a little bit more about it. For sure. It's disturbing to hear and also for uh future parents um
to make you know a wise decision about circumcision and are there any risks for autism or not. So that's just a suggestion as from a member of the board of health. >> Thank you. >> Anything else for new or old business?
>> I'm good. >> Every day is an adventure. Mary, anything? I'll take that as a no. Okay. Just that one number 10 at the end of your >> make a motion we >> When's our next meeting again? I
>> December 1st. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Next month. So is there a second for that motion? >> Second. >> Second. All in favor raise your hand say I.