Recording in progress. Okay. Welcome to the May 19th, 2025 meeting in the Yarmworth Board of Health. Uh just get started. I'm Hillard Bossi and like to go with attendance
first. Mary present. Great. Larry present. Uh so far Charlie is not and I know Eric will not be but it certainly meets the quorum here. So public comment as usual if anyone here uh in front of us like to
come forward or anyone who's zoomed in or watching this somewhere else um listening by phone whatever this would be your opportunity to ask questions or
We're good. See anything up there? Anyone else? Hands up. No. Okay. Hey, we're going to jump to number four, vegetation management. Would anyone be here uh to present that? Uh hello everyone. Uh Carl Lawson uh
hazardous waste inspector with the health department. Uh once again uh Eva source has uh submitted to the department of uh Massachusetts Department of Agriculture a 2025 yearly operational plan for
vegetation control on the electric right ofways and Yarmouth is included this year in that plan. and uh they submitted the plan to the department of agriculture in accordance with state regulation and um the Massachusetts Department of uh
agricultural resources is the sole regulating authority of pesticide use in Massachusetts but uh the public has an opportunity to comment on the plan. So the 2025 yearly operational plan describes how vegetation will be managed
on the electric row 346 in Yarmouth and uh the dates will be between June 1, excuse me, on October 18. So, electric row 346, that's the more northerly electric right ofway in town, which crosses uh Willow Street, just north of
Summer Street, and then it crosses Union Street uh just north of the former water department at 102 Union Street. And um it's it's visually very recognizable because it has the larger steel structures, not the smaller wooden poles. Um this is not the same electric
rightway that was treated last year. Uh last year we we talked about a plan for a right ofway 302 which is more southerntherly which is actually south of Route 6 and it's a completely different area. There's no um no common ground with this year's plan and there's no
intersections. U so the yearly operational plan it's an integrated pest management plan. So it's not purely the application of herbicides. It also includes uh mechanical cutting and mowing. And there are uh sensitive areas defined by state regulation which include limited spray and no spray
areas. A limited spray area is an area in which pesticide application is allowed but less frequently. And a no spray area is just that. No pesticide application allowed. For example, within 50 ft of a a designated private well. That's a no spray area. No pesticide
application allowed. And there are other setbacks depending upon the uh the features. For example, a public water supply well has a much greater uh setback. Uh the goals of the operation plan are to uh keep the vegetation a
safe distance from the power lines, maintain se safe access for the electric service crews, and remove the tall growing poisonous and invasive tree species and plant species that are most uh problematic. Uh also a goal of the plan is to promote
the low growing plant communities that uh are not troublesome because they stay low and the benefit of the smaller plant communities they is they crowd out those taller growing tree species. So um the YOP is not always applicable to Yarmouth since uh every
electric right ofway doesn't receive treatment in every year. Um so for example last year in Yarmouth it was the more southerntherly right ofway 302. This year it's the more northerly 346. Um so last year on behalf of the board of health I submitted two comment
letters. Uh one was dated uh June 7 and the second comment letter was June 18. Uh copies of both letters uh were provided in your packets. Um Eversource responded with a reply letter dated July 2nd, 2024. Um but that was a response
letter to the first border health comment letter only. That was a response to your June 7th letter. Uh, Eversource did not respond to the second border of health letter. So, uh, the second border health
letter included concerns about wildlife protection and the impact of vegetation management and the timing of the pesticide application. So, we don't have any feedback on those topics at this time. So, um, I I provided a 2025 draft
letter in your packets, uh, for your consideration and, um, so that's a a base for you from which to work and you can, um, you know, give me some direction on if you would like to, uh, revise, add, delete comments in any way
and um, I can do that for you. I thought it was kind of interesting looking back that the um Eversource didn't have a listing of our private wells. They they have a list from which they they work. They didn't uh tell me what
that list consisted of, but they they made a request of us, right, to provide them. I was able to uh procure some additional uh listings in the past year, right? And uh it took a little while because uh there there were a couple of hundred potential uh wellwater private
wells on the list that I had. So it took a while. I used the town geographic information system and I checked all of them. Now some I was able to discount quickly. for example, if they were south of Route Six, right away I knew I didn't have to take a measurement, but I did measure quite a few and I found some
additional potential uh private wells and I provided those to uh Eva Source. When people stop using the private wells, what do they have to do? Well, they're supposed to uh abandon them and and the Department of Environmental Protection, the state department of
environmental protection has guidelines on how to properly abandon a well. Now, that's something I pursued also because I found in talking to the water department, some of the properties previously listed with private wells now have town water connections.
So, I tried to see if I could get any records concerning how those wells were abandoned. I haven't been able to obtain anything yet. The water department is working on my request, but for that reason, I left all of the private well listings in the letter to Eversource
because if they're not capped properly, my my concern is they may still be a pathway to groundwater, right? Is the best I could do with that so far. It's a lot of soouththing. Tried. Yes, Carl spent a lot of time on
this. Yes, I can see that. But it's it's stuff that we should know. So, what are your thoughts on uh them not responding to one of our letters of what we should do uh uh concerning the um the topics of
the wildlife? They didn't. Yeah. Yeah. So I I think um we could reiterate this year um you know in in my letter that I submit on your behalf that you know we're still seeking and um you know perhaps I could make that a little more strong because what I did I listed your
prior concerns as well uh feeling imagining that they probably haven't changed probably the board still but if if the board does feel differently I can amend any of those and then the last two items uh I had on the list and my draft letter which goes back
to last year. The two concerns on um the timing of herbicide application and the wildlife concerns. I can reiterate and say, you know, please be aware we did not receive a response to these two items last year. Yes, that's a good idea. Great. Good. Would you like me to
do that? Yeah. Okay. Certainly. Are other towns um communicating with them do you think and getting responses or do you not know do you I don't know I I know in other year not in this year I don't know in other years I know um towns in
general and I can't give you a list of specific towns but some towns in general were against the use use of herbicides right they came through selectman's meetings This is a good summary too of the um the program. I appreciate that. My pleasure.
Certainly. I mean, is there any planting of shorter growing u plants that is going on? I I'm not aware that they actively plant any vegetation. So I don't know if they just
try to manage the low growing vegetation that's already in place. Um, thanks for organizing all this. Oh. Oh, certainly. You're welcome. Yeah, it's great. Larry. No. All right. Yeah. I
mean, it might be that they didn't respond because, you know, we didn't we mentioned these issues that we had, concerns we had, but we didn't really have any compelling reason for them to respond. So, maybe they they felt
like rather than um let us know that they weren't going to change their schedule, they just left it. So they didn't respond, you know, because they probably have these schedules all planned ahead of time and sure, you know, we were asking them to
change their schedule to late fall, I believe, right? And they probably felt, well, that might not work into their agenda, right? So, I mean, I'm just guessing personally, but it might not be a bad idea for them to
um verbalize that to us. Yeah. they they haven't always been good about responding to the letters. So, I mean, we didn't really have any factual compelling evidence that they should change the um uh spray dates to to late
fall. We just mentioned our concerns about what the um complications could be or the ramifications of, you know, the negative impact. Right. Well, it's mentioning the uh the background of, you
know, two people on the board as specialists, as scientists essentially that we you put that in which was great. I did. I wanted to stress that and I I I talked to Larry and Eric before I did that to find out exactly what the credentiing was because I felt that uh
carries a lot of weight. Well, let's demand some more respect. It's our properties, the health of our environment. So that's those are concerns. Do you want perhaps I could revise the letter and I'll make those two points.
The concern for wildlife and the herbicide application timing. I could make those the first two points to emphasize and say by the way we respectfully request a response to these points because we didn't get it last year. Didn't receive one last year. That that's great. Don't wait for us. Go
ahead and then send it out. Okay. Certainly. Okay. Yeah. Great Carl. Thank you. Thank you everyone. Okay. Uh number seven here is hazmat application. It says change from calendar year to fiscal year.
So what we have all of our inspections are done and all of our applications and certifications are on the calendar year except for Carl's those are on the fiscal year. with being on the calendar year, we coincide with the building
department, other departments, they go for our inspections and everything. So, hotels, instead of getting four different inspections, they all go at one time. Health, fire, building, they all go together and do their
inspections. It's convenient. It's easy. It's usually more in the off season when it's not as busy. where Carl in the right now in the peak season when all these hotels are open and everything's going on, he is busy getting out all of
his applications, following up with the owners to get their applications in, trying to go do his um his inspections also. So, it's just it's convoluted. So, we've been discussing and come we had a couple options. Either just leave it as
it is, give them a sixmonth uh permit and then have them start again in January or instead of putting the burden on them, give them an 18th month permit. And so I mean, we're not really going to be losing any money, but it just gives them a little bit of time
and that way all of our applications and everything will be all together in one cohesive unit. Um we did send a letter to um upstairs to the town administrator. He he was fine with it. we just had to put it through the board
for your approval. So, it's I I think it's it' be a good service for the town, for our customers to help out our agents as busy as they are to be able to do this all one together. So, that's kind
of what we're asking for here. Mary, any I'm fine with that. I think it makes a lot of sense. It's clean. Mary does. Yes. Does Do you need a formal vote or not? If you don't mind. Sure.
I move that we change the um license period to the calendar year um the license period for hazmat. Hazmat. Hazmat. Thank you. um to the calendar year in line with others and that we um make it an
18month um lensure period to get that one um firm in in line with the uh yearly calendar year. Make this application just this it be just 118th long then it'll be a yearly back to
yearly again. Sure. I second it. Okay. You got it. Okay. All right. Perfect. All in favor, just raise your hand. Let's go. Okay, that done. Thank you, Carl. Thank you. Okay, we're on to a grant application
approval. This is for the year 2026. Um, most of the work I think Sarah took care of with all the Excel sheets. Thank you. Um, I'm sure you had a a chance to look at it in your packet there. Essentially,
what I did is I for each organization I just added up whatever a lotments that members of the board wanted. Um, I got a total and then I divided that amount by the number of
people voting to give money to an organization. So, as you uh can see um the total amount, let's look at just the first organization right on top. Uh there was a total of
$7,500. Two members voted for it and that half to $3,750. Um, one thing I needed to do to try to bring the total amounts closer to 60,000, which is what we have, was to deduct
$500 from each donation or we can do it differently. In fact, we can do the whole thing differently if you want to. Uh, so that was a quick way for me to bring it in the neighborhood of $60,000. As you can see on the bottom of average
that column there's 66,000 in change that essentially got converted to 59,685. Uh so there's a negative balance there. Uh $315. So we haven't really met the 60,000. So it would be a question if
we're going to do it this way. We just need to uh distribute that $315 somehow. I'm fine with with that the last um what you did with the $500 adjustment and having the
$315 left. And I know last year we had talked about using a a small amount left for the hoarding task force. So that would be my suggestion. again. Do you know if they're still in existence? I remember we had to retract it. I
remember last year. I'm not for sure what it's called now. It's cut. Um she came and talked to us. Yeah, I'd have to look into that, but I don't think $315 would be much for that program.
I I I'll have to ask them if they're still open and willing. So, well, if not, I mean, we can certainly find somebody that would like it being as a backup. I mean, maybe for a speaker, it'll pay somebody. Yeah, sure.
Uh to spend two hours and make a presentation so we can uh learn something. Um um I don't know, Larry, what do you think? No, I agree. I agree with Mary that accept this uh adjusted uh column on the far right
as written. gets a good compromise for everyone. One of my other concerns about the 315 is that they didn't apply, right? So, uh that's that's correct. Um everyone is
going to receive some money who did reply. Yeah. And yeah. Um, no. I'm open to any change you want. It's not going to um I don't know if that organization
even knew they could apply for it, but um I can't imagine anyone's going to turn turn down the money. Do you want a backup plan or not? I mean, I don't, you know, um I'm fine with we'll see if they would like the money and make make use of it, which is fine. Uh do we need a
backup plan in case they don't want it? I mean, I can't imagine someone's going to turn it down. Do we need a backup or anything? I was just trying to figure out what $315 um would be divided by all of the other people that did apply. And that's what
I'd do. Yeah. I hate to see making a check out for $712 or something. It's sort of right initially I um it needed to be I think it was $477 is what I had to use and the checks would have been pretty awkward. Pretty
awful. So I made it $500 to try to even it out. No, that's fine. Um I may just as a note there's one member voted u quite a lot of money to one organization well well beyond what
they were requesting and that would have skewed everything. So I limited to the amount that organization was asking for right that's that's reasonable. Yep. Okay. I I don't think we should turn
turn it back though. I mean because you know I don't want them to give us less than 60,000 next year to So you have an organization you want to vote on. Do you want to change the amounts in any way? No. No. Okay. No. You want to add 315 to
anybody just to make it. Um as a backup I don't I don't care whatever you think. Did some number come out a lot lower than anyone thought it would be? It's just a gesture of adding something on about the Yarmouth food
pantry. It's fine. It's fine with me. Yeah, that's that's fine with me, too. There's a backup. Lost their funding. I think they lost a major source of their%. Yeah. Okay. Unfortunately, that's what's happened with the pant food pantries.
So, you want Larry to make a motion to Sure. do this now. Will you make a motion to accept the I make a motion that we accept the far right column um um as written adding
$315 to the um uh Yarmouth food pantry. The remaining $315 to the Yarmouth food pantry. Second. Okay. And once again, that's for the
2026 grant approvals. um for the minutes uh for the motion rather just so we know what it was in reference to. So yeah, all in favor just raise your hand, say I. I. Okay. Uh let me know if you have any suggestions. You want to do it
differently next year. That's all. I thought that was great. Yep. We like what you do. Good job. Uh I know you you came up with a plan last year too that worked. Was it the same? I don't remember. I don't remember. I don't think it was quite the same. Little bit of a Right. You know,
we're always up for a little bit of variation anyway. That's right. It's good for our synapses. That's right. Creativity. Okay. Okay. We're on to board of health fee schedules. Very. Yes, sir. Thank you. So, the the
town select people have asked all the departments to look at their fees and adjust them accordingly. within the health department we have we around a hundred different fees we have we've looked at them um these are 12
that we've decided to kind of adjust how we did it how I brought came about it was just the manh hours it takes to do each one and then also compared it to uh different towns we compared to six different towns it was six different
towns where we were um just so we're all in line we didn't want to be the highest we don't want to be the lowest Once we adjusted to the hourly rate of the of my inspectors, this is kind of how it fell into um the
proposed um rates. And we you can see we didn't go up much. Just the uh the repair to the title 5 system up $20. The title five inspection form up $10. Um the food service fees from 125
to 160. The farmers market uh only up $25, which is very reasonable. The mobile food vendor only up $20. So, you can see through there, we didn't we're not trying to make any money. We're just
trying to break even. Just trying to stay afloat and make sure we're not hemorrhaging money through the town and lowering for the nonprofits. The the fee is going down. Pardon? For the
nonprofits. Yes, you. Yes. Yeah, it's in fact going down. Okay, we have a little bit of a heart. So, yeah, it won't last. Don't worry about it. I um Larry, are you okay with the amounts for sheep and goats? This is your area
of expert. I think so. I mean, all all things considered, I mean, we didn't come to Yarmouth to raise sheep and goats. So, I I think it's kind of a nice thing to to do if people can can do it, but I don't think that's going to be an objectionable increase price. We don't
have because these sheep and goats are worth more now than they used to be as well. Good point. Uh, do we have to deal with the weight of the animal in the algorithm or not? I don't know who would be in charge of that. Okay. All right. We'll let that go for the time being then. Uh, do we need to vote on this? So
if you can vote if you because you're the voting body on this and then you vote on this and then we'll take it to the selectman and say this is what this is our stuff for sure. This is they don't vote on it. You guys do. I I make a motion that we uh accept
these uh fee changes as proposed by uh Barry. Perfect. Second. Great. All in favor? I Okay. You kept the chickens out of it. We're getting We're actually getting lots of uh can imagine lots of question.
Lots of people want chickens nowadays. So with everything going on. So wonderful. It's still $9,000 fee for the rooster. Yeah. Okay. Um ducks. We're getting duck ones now, too. Under the poultry, which is a little bit of a different issue, but it's you know, I I
guess we we've gone over all that. Yeah, it's it's all it's all covered. So, I just I just found it a little more more of a husbandry issue than than chickens. So, I I guess the duck water involved. I guess the duck eggs are a little bit bigger and a little bit more tasty. So,
they're a little more maintenance. Well, considerably more maintenance than chickens. So, okay. So, we have two sets of minutes to review and approve. They were both in um the packet. And just want you to let the
public know as as well as us just the reason why October 16th, 2023 minutes are being reviewed now. There was um just for the record, just for the record, they weren't put into the into
the system properly. There there was a change and that's we we just needed to get them perfect up there. Okay. I have one comment about the October 16th meeting minutes and I know I previously emailed Sarah and told her
that um I thought they looked fine. I believe that um Sarah Mccoan was here in person with us. I remember her sitting here and going point by point on the policy that we had drafted with
um oh what's his name? Bob. and Bob sent her the next time to in his place to go over those revisions again. I don't know if there was an evidence list. This is a those present. It says
board members present. That says others present and it doesn't list Sarah Mccoan although you know she's number two. Um and I believe she was in person with us that simple. I had one that uh I had told Sarah about
and that was on page three motion on the third line you see Mary's name and then there's a little edit that need to be made there was all
okay any questions on it if not we'll we'll vote on Oops. I move that we approve the um meeting minutes for the hybrid meeting on October 16th, 2023. The board Yarmouth Board of Health. I second it. Okay. All in favor?
Say I. I. Done. Okay. Let's go. We're halfway there in the minutes. May 5th. Did we do April 7th? Did we? Yes. Believe so. Oh, okay. And we've been up to date lately. Yeah. No, we're on we're doing really well. I
couldn't remember that. Yeah. So, the minutes last meeting was May 5th, 2025. Anyone had any comments, edits, anything? I was not present. So, you can still comment if you like. Very well done, Sarah. Thank you. Very good.
That's what we're looking for. Yeah, it it was great. It was and as I had said to you, it was condensing it was it was great. We had a lot of people sitting in front of us. So, nice job for sure. Larry, are you willing to make a motion
to accept make a motion we accept the minutes of May 5th? Oh, we we can't actually do that. We can't, right? Because Mary wasn't there. We don't have a quorum to vote on it. So, let's put that on next meeting's agenda,
right? Which will take us 35 seconds. But, I'm sorry, that's such a fussy guy. Yeah, right. I don't want to get called to the principal's office. Okay. Now, I'll save those uh those minute packets and I'll put them I'll recycle them back
into your packet for next time. Yes. Yeah. Don't do it all over again. Thank you. All right. So, scribble out any anything inappropriate that you may have written on it. We can refund them. That's not that big a deal. Okay. There's two Mayfests. All right.
Uh so we're up to new and old business. Um one I know uh the Arma Substance Abuse Committee did meet. Mhm. Um I know Charlie's not here so he can't really report but um so actually there was
three of us representing the health department. Myself, Sarah, and Charlie. All three of us were there just to make sure we were covered this time. Great. Um it was a very good meeting. It was very quick. The the lead was not there. So they it was quick. They are looking
to do um in October. They wanted to do it early July, but they thought it was too early to do like a fair get together at the Dennis um DY Fields. So they're going to do it in October. They asked about permitting for
food trucks and stuff like that, which is I I gave them all that information who to contact. Um, another thing which I found very interesting. They were looking for volunteers for their I'm going to get this wrong. The Alladon,
the children with uh parents who have alcohol and substance abuse. Um, an adult mentor that's been in the AA program for at least three years and would like to volunteer to help with these kids, give them mentor. And actually Charlie um asked for the
information to be able to do it. And the lady said, "Well, you have to be an AA for at least three years." He's like, "I've been in He holding meetings for 38 years." So, I I thought it was very nice that he stepped up to do that. So, um I'm getting him in the information on
that. Um the next meeting is they're doing them once a month. So, right between Charlie, Sarah, and myself, we will make sure that the health department is represented. So, okay. Um what else is listed? This 16 NSET
road in West Yarmouth. That was the issue of a that's the hoarding. Yes. Net road. The hoarding issue. Um I did speak with the owner. She is in contact with um garbage be gone. she to and the day I
talked to her, she's talked to a financial person to um secure funds to she knows she's definitely going to get the yard cleaned up and she's going to do as much as she can on the interior. She has been going to um Golden Treasures Golden Treasures um
the class at the senior center for the hoarding. Um and she's realizing what she needs to do so she doesn't lose her house. Um, she is still at a hotel right now, but for a limited time because she can't stay there x more than x amount of
days. So, I'm in contact with her and Justine, the u clinician from the police department. Uh, so I was very happy that she she actually reached out to me. I've left a couple cards for her, but she actually reached out to me. I asked her if she wanted to meet with myself for
and the chair. Um, she said she's good right now, but she's she knows what she's doing and she's trying. She's I think the neighbors went and talked to her. Um, kind of gave her a little heads up, little push. So, and when the
neighbors talked to me, they like, "Can we just go clean up?" I'm like, "You can't go. That's private property. That's her stuff." And what's rubbish to you and I is a treasure to her. So, but so she's working with it with the garbage be gone to get it start getting
it cleaned up. Um hopefully I'll hear from her. She called me late Friday afternoon. So I haven't heard from her today. So I will definitely have an update at her next meeting. Did she get funding approval for for I don't that that she was contacting her her funding people after
she was contacting me. So and what's the likelihood that that'll happen? She has resources. So it just I I don't think that's the the stopping factor. I think it's other the mental sure capacity to
let go of stuff. So sure. So seemed pretty earnest though. Yeah. I again Yeah. I I would I see the best in everybody. So hopefully she's just not telling me this. But I'm going to stay on top of her. Yeah.
Great. Thanks for doing that. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, really extreme situation. You just, you know, go by the house and you just see how uh awful it is and the yard, the car, the everything. So, living conditions
awful. Um, okay. Plastic reduction committee meeting. It was took place on May 12th. Mary, can you educate us a little bit? Um Mary Vilbond um apparently was asked
by the town um manager, I think the town manager to get this task force going um to look at the bylaw that had been passed um over a year ago now
um for reducing the use of plastic um by retail establishments. And um so there was a committee meeting. There's like 17 members. I believe two are from uh local
businesses. Um Bagels and More and um um Skippers Skippers I was going to say Clippers Skippers Chowder House. Um and then the uh chair of the town's actually plastic reduction committee um was there. Um, there were three
representatives from Stop and Shop because Christie, the main representative, was not able to attend, but they were there taking notes and listening intently. Um, being very, very friendly, very open. Um, Liz Argo was
the um, select board representative. Um so the agenda for the meeting was to introduce ourselves um and to elect an actual chair for the task force as well as a clerk. So that was done and um
Jamie Yeah, thank you. Um was elected chair and no one um wanted to be the secretary because it's a difficult job, but Mary Bond said she'd been taking minutes for 24 years or so and that she'd be glad to
do it. So we don't have minutes yet, but um this is this is from my memory. So we um we went over the bylaw. um Miss Haley spoke, the young lady that first presented it um as an article on the warrant and then back when we relooked
at it this past year. Um and the role of the committee was um was in contention was was in disagreement. Um Jamie felt that our role was to discard that bylaw and rewrite one
rewrite a completely new bylaw. I disagreed um with that and still disagree with that. Um I think that I think that we have to honor the bylaw that the people voted on and then came back again and said, "Why aren't
you doing something on what we voted on?" and just simply tailor the the regulations to implement it as best we can reasonably and given what we have at hand right now in terms of materials
that are feasible and affordable for um retail establishments to use um and and explain it all too. But anyway, that so that was mine. Um, Liz Argo also felt that that was not the role of the committee to rewrite or to write a new
bylaw, but she said that um she would take that to the next meeting of the select board to just um um confer about and then put it on the actual agenda for the May meeting later.
So that's what's going to happen. It will be come up as an actual agenda item for the select board to consider what is actually the role of the plastic reduction task force. And um then we will have our second plastic reduction
task force meeting um a few days after that to hear what the select board said and to I hope proceed because as the two representatives of the retail establishments as well as the third the stop and shop said um time is getting
short for them to plan what they're going to have to order you know what the expenses are going to be etc. Um, if we are still looking at implementation uh January 1st, 2026. Is that about right, Barry?
Anything else? We're meeting at the police station. One of the things I found that was kind of an aha moment. There's the ban is on seven different plastics and somebody asked like, "Do you know what the seven different plastics are?" And no one knew. I didn't
know. So, I got back and I Googled what it was and just I came a found a list of what number one was, what number two was, and I sent it out to the committee. Um, it was very it was kind of enlightening. But at the next meeting, they're actually going to bring Stop and
Shop and um, Bagels Beyond, they're going to bring visuals of what each, right, different level plastics are. So, that that's what I I was like, we're trying to fix something. And I was like, "No, none of us knew what it was." So
those and we don't know what being used out there either. Yeah. And even if we did, we wouldn't know what number that was and what that meant. So yeah, it was um it was and and and as I mentioned, you know, I think most people think of it in
terms of takeouts, but it's really in terms of everything, including what Stop and Shop sells. Stop shop said they like their deli and um bakery departments would lose 25% of their product just right due to these bands and they're not and not all the
plastics are bad. A lot of them are there to protect the life spand and the micronisms of the food to protect the food itself. So, right, it's kind of a that's the committee is going to have a big task in front of it to figure it out how we're going to right adjust this
bylaw or we all want the same thing. Yes, we're just coming at it from different angles. The other thing was we had um the Falmouth um proposed um actually I thought it had already gone into effect but I guess now it has although we don't have that
officially so we don't have the actual final official copy of the Falmouth regulation. Um Hillard had told me about Nantucket's regulation that had been written by the chamber there. So I had provided that to Mary ahead of the meeting and she provided it at the
meeting copies of it for us and said she had spoken with the director of the chamber in at Nantucket and he was very very helpful and offered to assist in any way he could. So y the question I have is is there any way
that we could before we go ahead and and um start a this program. Is there any way we could get other towns to come on board? Because it seems like it's going to put businesses at a very
unfair disadvantage that have to comply with this in Yarmouth. these all these stores in Dennis and Hyannis I mean in Barnstable they don't it's just going to be a a sort of a disadvantage and it would be problematic for a business like
stop and shop who's got a store in Dennis and a store in or several stores in Barnstable and it's going to be very confusing for them to comply with with this kind of a law if we could coordinate it with other towns then
seems like it would make more sense that came up when we were working with tobacco regulations and of course the convenience store owners said that you know that people are going to just go to the next town to purchase. Um but in the end that hasn't really panned out as
dramatically as disastrous as people thought it might but I think it's not not likely we are going to get towns on the Cape to coordinate with us before we put our bylaw into effect. it we don't we don't have time to we don't have time
that would take a lot of I mean that's been difficult just for mutual aid purposes that's that's taken a lot of time and effort to get those agreements in place so I don't think it's going to happen um but I'm just wonder how effective
would effective it would be when you see the volume of business a company like BJ's and uh Barnstabar and Hyannis does that a lot of these and I mean I don't know following Falmouth very similarly. So that would be in line
with that and I think once if we do it same as Fmouth I think other towns will be like all right well we're not going to try to rewrite the right people will start to eventually we'll get all but right now we're focused on going to be awful hard for like a company like stop
and shop though to comply with a law like that because they're going to have to obviously they're they're not going to change their policies in these other towns without having to Yeah. Well, it's interesting. I mean, back with the paper bag stuff. Um, I shop at Market Basket
in Hanover and then also in Bourne. Borne, it's all paper. If you don't have your reusable bags in handover, it's still plastic. I mean, the communities that aren't passing these bans and and regulations. Um, the stores are some of
them are going ahead and complying overall because it's easier for them to administer and some of them are just saying, "Okay, you know, we'll do it that way there." this way here. So, even a store like Whole Foods, for example, they're very environmentally conscious. I think
they've gone to bags, but there's still a lot of plastic. Oh, sure. Yep. Even there. So, but I mean, yeah, people that stop at stop and that shop at stop and shop for some basic
things that might be in plastic now maybe aren't going to go to Whole Foods instead because of the expense. You know, there's definitely a Well, you know, actually that's a misnomer, believe it or not, because I've priced different things in both places and it's
some things. Yeah. But I think overall, unless you're a prime member, you know, you're you're right. You're you're not paying them. Prime really helps. Yeah. Sure. But at least something's happening. I just hope we have enough time to to put
something um good and substantial together that we'll let the public know that we definitely are working on it and moving toward, you know, even more compliance as time goes on. Yep. I mean,
you mentioned the plastics that are being used. I mean, is there any way to find out what some of the alternatives that may be being used now? Sure. I mean, the chamber may know. Yeah. I mean some people like Mary said when she came last year and spoke with us some of the
um retailers were already using right things and and like in Wellfleet you see a lot of um things that aren't disposable plastic in other communities even though they haven't had a you know a formal regulation in place. So that
that that I would like to see that happen, you know, like a vendor here and just have people come and show what what are you selling that's um substitute that's a an actual substitute for some of the plastics that right now
seem like we can't substitute for them. Thank you. Anything else? New and old. I have something uh it's personal actually. The uh Mass Municipal Association and Suffach County uh Suffach University um
joined together to put on a 26- week municipal leadership course. It's basically half of a a master's degree. Uh there was over 200 applicants and I was one of them that was selected to to take the class to be a better leader for here the town of Yarma. So that's great.
goes. It's uh 26 Fridays, starts in September. So, it's uh I'm looking forward to learning how to be a better leader for the town. So, great. Congratulations. Very good. Now, is that could that be subsidized by the town? Could that The town is paying for the Y.
The town is paying for it. So, great. Yeah. I couldn't afford I'm Is that in person or virtual? Virtual. Mhm. No, I'm lying. Hybrid. Hybrid. Yep. It's a little bit of both. So, um, but the, so every other year it's in Western Mass or
Barnesville, and this is the year that it's in Barnesville, so I don't have to, but it's it's an all day 9 to5 class every Friday for 26 weeks. Some homework, I'm sure. Yeah. And it's a it's a half of a master's degree, so it's Will will it give you some credits
you could put toward a master's degree if is if I already have a master's degree, so I'm hoping I could go toward even a doctorate or something like that. So, right, all depends. But I could get another masters. It would be it I could finish and and the other the second half
of it. So, yeah, public administration, one step at a time. Yeah, great. Let's do it. So, I'm excited about that. Congratulations. Thank you. Anything else besides? Yes. Okay. Okay. The um green burial, the public hearing
notice will be going out for that will be that meeting will be July 7th. I put that on your right in front of you. So that'll be July 7th the for the green home burial. Um we're getting that should be getting that wrapped up. We had to putting it in the Cape Cut Times posting
it upstairs. We have to have two public hearings. Two just Oh, just one. Do we have to advertise? We have have to advertise for it twice and we have to have one public hearing for it. So, Mr. McCertie was in today and just wanted to say thank you to the board and to the
department for all the work that we've done for it. So, his father's still alive. I think so. Well, that was our goal. Yeah. Be a year. We can take some credit for that. Yes. studying whether people can put off
their death, the people who are dying can put off their death for a special event. And I'm thinking of an academic paper we can write. Michael Connelly this week. Michael Connelly, the neighbor down next to us, he passed away. Oh, yeah. That's too bad.
You've been in nursing home for a while. Elaine and Michael, you know who they are. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, okay. So, next meeting. Well, we have something in our packet on the variance approval for Hawks Wing Road. No, that was just to let you know that
we filed that. Oh, just as for our information. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, we're looking in June. June. Yeah. June 2nd. Second. I won't be able to
make that meeting. Okay. Um I can Okay, great. Was Mary Just a second. I'm checking I can There's a RACK meeting that same night, so I can do that. Okay, let's assume you and I both can. Um
I'll reach out to Charlie. Thank you. and I'll reach out when it's a decent time to contact Eric as well. Okay. So, that's one thing left, I think. Motion to char.
Second. Be a third. Yeah. All in favor? Okay. I Okay, this meeting's adjourned. Thank you everyone.